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We have another episode of the Almost 11 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: Famous podcast this week. I'm not just talking to myself. 12 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: We realized last week that is as hard as that was, 13 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: it probably wasn't the best idea to do two weeks 14 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: in a row. So we brought in one of Bachelor 15 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: Nation's favorite contestants. I mean, she is iconic, she is 16 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: long lasting, she's beautiful. Michelle Money. Welcome to the podcast. Hey, then, 17 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: thanks for happen me. This is so fun. You might 18 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: be asking, you know why Ashley and I are in 19 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: the same room. No, we don't hate each other. We 20 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 1: love each other very much. It's been two weeks in 21 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: a row. Actually, it's just a big deal. Like, she's 22 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: just got a lot of things going on. She's got 23 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: a very special announcement coming up this week, so make 24 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 1: sure you tune into her social channels to find out 25 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 1: what she's going to be talking about. She couldn't be 26 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 1: in studio today, so we brought Michelle Money in to 27 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: break down the episode with me do a couple of 28 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 1: really exciting interviews. We have Sydney who left uh Colton's 29 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: episode on her own accord uh this week, and also 30 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:39,559 Speaker 1: we have the Bachelor producers from Vietnam on the podcast. 31 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: We're gonna give us a little dirt, a little insight, 32 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:46,839 Speaker 1: and a little background about how The Bachelor Vietnam was created. 33 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: But before we do any of that, Michelle Money, what 34 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: are your thoughts on Colton Underwood? Oh my gosh, I 35 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: am so he is so refreshing for me. I don't 36 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: know what I think. At first, I was a little 37 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: nervous that he was going to come across arrogant, I 38 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: don't know hockey, but she's actually really I'm really impressed 39 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 1: by him and the more I see him um handling 40 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: these situations and all these be Sorry, guys, just a glass. No, 41 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: we just tossing stuff over there. Well it together, Ben anyway, No, 42 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: I'm super impressed with him. I really, I really think 43 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 1: he's I think he's a genuine good dude. So, Michelle, 44 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: let me ask you a few questions about Colton that 45 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: we haven't talked about yet on the podcast. Do you 46 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: remember a couple months ago when there's a whole hashtag 47 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 1: going around not my Bachelor? Yeah, you do? Things have 48 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: changed a little bit, Huh. I feel like they've changed. 49 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,119 Speaker 1: I haven't been checking out any hashtags lately, but it does. 50 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: It does seem like, I don't know, it feels it 51 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 1: feels like there's a shift. Yeah, you know, I think 52 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: for a couple of reasons. Here's my theory. I was 53 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: able to meet with Colton. It wasn't aired. I get 54 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: cut from this show all the time. It's it's actually 55 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: kind of funny. Every season I seem to go on 56 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: or filming a piece and then most seasons that never airs, which, 57 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know what that's telling me. I 58 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 1: think they're trying to humble me a bit. But anyways, 59 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: I met with Colton before this whole thing started on 60 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: on camera, and when I sit sat down with him. 61 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: He was nervous, he was anxious, he was a little 62 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 1: bit confused, and he felt very unworthy of being the bachelor, 63 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: which is perfect for everybody watching because you want a 64 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: humble bachelor. Nobody if you just think of the concept 65 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: of a bachelor bachelor, like nobody is worthy to be 66 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: the Bachelor bachelor and nobody is worried had twenty plus 67 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: people seeking after them. Nobody's that cool. And when the 68 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: less cool you feel going in, I think the better 69 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: bachelor bachelor you'll be. That's probably totally true. Yeah, he uh, 70 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: He's kind of won the hearts over of of Bachelor 71 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: Nation and it hasn't stopped this week. His social I 72 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:05,119 Speaker 1: will say this about cold, and his social has doubled, 73 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: Like his activity on social has doubled in the last 74 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: couple of months. So I have a feeling he's going 75 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: to come out of this whole thing either very popular 76 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: or he's gonna get himself into trouble by posting too much, 77 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: one of those two things. But I'm meeting with him 78 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: the night and I want to ask him about it, 79 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: ask him. I love he posted this photo of him 80 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: when he was like in high school in like some 81 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: white like really big talks that did not and he 82 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: looks like a totally different person. But I think it's 83 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 1: so cool and people can be kind of vulnerable enough 84 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 1: to put themselves out there in a way that's like, 85 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: this is maybe not the best photo of me, and 86 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: look at me now, like he it was very It 87 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: was a very humble cool posts that I thought said 88 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 1: a lot about him. Have you always been good looking? 89 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: Were you like good looking in high school and middle 90 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: school and elementary school? Ridiculously good luck, like always like 91 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 1: the top of the class, never had snaggle tooth, never 92 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: had a really bad bang that was permed by my mom, 93 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: and like none of that happened. It was weird. I 94 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 1: just came like this, you wanted a little interesting fact 95 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: about Michelle Money that I just learned. What a fact. 96 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 1: It's not a fact, it's a Chris Harrison tidbit. So 97 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: Chris Harrison just revealed on Janna Kramer's podcast that the 98 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: one woman he thought should have become the Bachelorette that 99 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 1: didn't was Michelle Money. He also said Claire Crawley. He 100 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: said those were the two that he thought should have 101 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: become that that's so sweet and I'll pay him later. 102 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: But um, that's funny. Uh. No, Ben, the correct answers, No, I've, 103 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: I've I've spent a lot of money to look this. 104 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: Uh Michelle, everybody's wondering, are you dating? I am. I 105 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: have the most incredible love of my life boyfriend. Yes, 106 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 1: so happy. We've been together for almost three years. Um, yeah, 107 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:59,239 Speaker 1: I'm really really, I'm really happy. Good for you. Professional golfer, 108 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: Yeah he is. Yes, then he's like your dream man. 109 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: He's a professional golfer. Yeah, he's everything I'd ever want 110 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 1: to be. But I'm not. Yeah, I I practice enough 111 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 1: to be a professional golfer. Do you I see I 112 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: see post there? Did I see you? Last year? I 113 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: shall put a lot of these events acting like I belong, 114 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: and I wear nice clothes, and I bring my golf 115 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: clubs to see if anybody's gonna ask me to play. 116 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 1: Typically they don't, but at least I'm there. Well, Harrison 117 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: is a good golfer. He is, he is, and he 118 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:33,679 Speaker 1: just got back from the A T. T. Pebble Beach. 119 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 1: Everybody out there listening to make sure you check out 120 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: Chris Harrison's social Not only has he announced his newfound 121 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: love Lauren Ziema, but he also just got done playing 122 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:46,479 Speaker 1: at the A T and T Pebble Beach. He's a 123 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: really good golfer. He's a lot of fun doing it. 124 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 1: I'm trying to convince him to play with me in 125 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: a couple of outings this year. So if that happens, 126 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: you know that I'll be a happy guy because I 127 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 1: need to play some more golf. Chris Gerson Michelle. Before 128 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: we break down this episode, and it's a good one. 129 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: I mean it's juicy, and we have some very, very 130 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: talented and great interviews coming up. We had to catch 131 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: up with Ashley to tell us about one of her 132 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: favorite products as she prepares for her wedding. Ashley, well, 133 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: thank you, Ben, Gary and I are on the road 134 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: this week, but we can't wait to go home and 135 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: have a cozy weekend at home with all the stuff 136 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: that we've gotten off our crate and bar Owl registry. 137 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: It's kind of amazing how many people are ordering us 138 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: stuff of our create and their own registry so early. 139 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: It's like six months to our wedding, but we're still 140 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: getting new plates and cooking tosts and all these great 141 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: things that are keeping us cozy during these cold fifty 142 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: degree days in l A and we're making curely with 143 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: our new pots. It's so nice. What we love about 144 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: these pieces are that they're going to go with our 145 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: decor regardless of what our house looks like now and 146 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: what it will look like in ten years. They're classic, 147 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: timeless pieces that are always going to match with whatever 148 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: look we're going for. We also love the fact that 149 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: with this group feature, this group gifting feature with great 150 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: and Marrow on our registry, people can come together and 151 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: buy us larger furniture pieces, like we really want this couch. 152 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: We really need a new couch. 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So if you think you need a little 168 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: bit of help with your registry and you and your 169 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: honey can't figure it out on your own, get some 170 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: extra guidance at Crate and Barrel and get a Crate 171 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: and Barrel Private Registry event at Crate and Barrel dot 172 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: com Blast Door Blast Event. All right back to you 173 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: in the studio, Ben Michelle. This week's episode of The Bachelor, 174 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: we had to see some drama played out. Let's start 175 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: with talking about maybe the biggest dramatic storyline of this episode, 176 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: which was Nicole and on Yanka. They gotten a tiff, 177 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 1: a little battle, and Cole and sends them both home. 178 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: Do you think you made the right decision? I do, 179 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: But I want to break this down. This is what's 180 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: so fascinating to me. It's un it's just so interesting 181 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: how it's just a great reminder for us as as 182 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:06,599 Speaker 1: viewers watching the show. I think you can watch this 183 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 1: show and take so much of it and applied to 184 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: your life and learn and go from it. And I 185 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 1: think this is one of those experiences where you're like, Okay, 186 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: you know, an Yanka thought she was doing the right 187 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: thing by taking information from release that she assumed to 188 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: be true. However, it was none of her business and 189 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: she kind of stopped, you know, into a territory that 190 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: wasn't really I don't know again, not not really her business, 191 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: but it turned into this bigger deal that did not 192 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 1: need to happen, and um, you know, it sounds to 193 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: me like that wasn't the context in which it's the 194 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: statement of her wanting to use this as an opportunity 195 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,319 Speaker 1: to leave Miami. It sounds like that was taken out 196 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: of context. And it's just so important for us to remember, 197 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: like we have to be so careful how we're relaying 198 00:10:56,400 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 1: messages like gossiping, how we're taking you know, story raising, 199 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:02,839 Speaker 1: not really if it doesn't come straight from the horse's mouth, 200 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: we really don't know if it's true or not. And 201 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: this is just a sad example of what can happen 202 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 1: when you aren't minding your own business and when you 203 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 1: aren't there to hear the actual words come out of 204 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 1: someone's mouth, and I think unfortunately it just unraveled into 205 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: both women bringing out the worst in each other, and 206 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:28,839 Speaker 1: unfortunately Colton having to witness that firsthand. Yeah, you know 207 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:33,719 Speaker 1: it was great, Michelle, are almost as Facebook group kind 208 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: of blew up over this topic. We have a great 209 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: Facebook group, by the way, a really good community of people. 210 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: They actually this week one of the leaders of the 211 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 1: Facebook group had a birthday and the whole group, uh 212 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 1: started tweeting at me to say, what's your having birthday? 213 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: So I did, um. But we have a lot of 214 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 1: good support out there. But I always like to read 215 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,319 Speaker 1: the Facebook group because it does give me insight into 216 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: how Bachelor Nation is feeling a little bit in your 217 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: spot on last week on the episode, we talked about 218 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 1: playing the game of telephone, right. I mean, it's kind 219 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: of like that game where one person tells one person 220 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 1: one thing and the next person tells another person another thing, 221 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: and by the time it gets to the final result 222 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: that the story has changed completely. Unfortunately, though, everybody suffered 223 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:17,719 Speaker 1: because of this, And and that's where I think the 224 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: question of what did he do the right thing comes 225 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: in mind for me, is because Nicole really didn't do 226 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,559 Speaker 1: anything wrong. She she didn't say or it did. It 227 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: wasn't setting in the context that it was being communicated 228 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: the Colton do the right thing and just saying you 229 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: know what, I can't deal with this in general. I 230 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: mean Nicole, really, I feel like she took the worst 231 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: part of this. I agree, but I think the way 232 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: that she handled it said a lot to not that 233 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: there's any like right or wrong way to handle something 234 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: I can't imagine having been put in her situation. But unfortunately, 235 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:51,959 Speaker 1: I think on top of being in this super unique, 236 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 1: like high emotions, super like competitive environment, it just when 237 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:01,719 Speaker 1: when stressful situations happened like this, it says a lot 238 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:06,079 Speaker 1: about how you handle those situations. And I don't necessarily 239 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: know if I don't know what the right thing to 240 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:12,079 Speaker 1: do is, but I it just didn't bring out the 241 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: best in either of them, unfortunately, And and Holton was 242 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: there to witness that firsthand, and I guess made that 243 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 1: decision on his own. Um, what would you have done? Ben? Uh? 244 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: You know, it's hard to say. I don't think Colton. Honestly, 245 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 1: I can't say Colton did the wrong thing here because 246 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 1: I think you're kind of You're very right in the 247 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: sense of there's so much pressure, there's so much going 248 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: around around you, on around you. At all times. You're 249 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: trying to keep your head above water, and at some 250 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 1: point when something like this comes up, you weigh your options. 251 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: You Okay, obviously he if we're truthful, he wasn't that 252 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 1: ending the coal and he wasn't the end of Anko 253 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 1: because he would have kept them around. Um. But instead 254 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: he said, you know what, like I'm just this is 255 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 1: just best if we clean the slate here, if we 256 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: just start start over, take this situation and kind of 257 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: separate it from this group and move forward with the 258 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: women that I know I want to be with. So 259 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: I think he did the right thing. Uh. I would 260 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: like to ask you, Michelle, before we get into the 261 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: one on one day with Hannah ge and oh my god, 262 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: there was one on one day and a half. I 263 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: was gonna say, I felt all sorts of weird in here. 264 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: Uh that's a lot. But before we get into that, 265 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 1: you've been on the show. You've done well at the show, 266 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: and when I mean when I what I say by 267 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: that is you were yourself. You're authentic and you're true 268 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: to yourself. Uh. You pursue this thing the best you 269 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: possibly could. What would be your advice to anybody out 270 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: there that's putting a pressured situation that's trying to explain 271 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: themselves on this show? What kind of thought process do 272 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: you go through to kind of decide what's true and 273 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: what's not and what do you share with the Bachelor 274 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: and what you don't when you're actually on the show. 275 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: Is that you're saying, yeah, when you're on the show, Well, 276 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: it's it's so hard to answer that question because it 277 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: is so complete. It is such a completely different world. 278 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: I mean, it's shocking to me to look back and 279 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: think about how I went into that show, The Bachelor 280 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: in particular, thinking that I was a pretty normal woman, 281 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: and left feeling like maybe I'm actually super jealous and 282 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: insecure and actually like I don't even know who I am. 283 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: It's it's fascinating the world that they create that that 284 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 1: makes brings out the worst in you. I mean, we're 285 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: talking like the jealousy, the competition, sizing yourself up, like 286 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: am I good enough? Is am I pretty enough? I've 287 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: never felt emotions like that in my whole life until 288 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: going on that show, and and so it it's easy 289 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: for me to sit here and say, you know what, 290 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: remember who you are, Remember like be present, like take 291 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: a breath, like remember that this isn't a real world 292 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: you're living in, and align with your your your true self. 293 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: But you know, until you're walking in someone's shoes, until 294 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: you're actually in that situation, it's so hard to even 295 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: give like valid advice. Do you know what I'm saying? 296 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: Does that make sense? I almost don't know how to 297 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: answer that. Yeah, you know, I know exactly what you're saying. 298 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: You're touching on something that our listeners always love to hear, 299 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: and it's true and authenticity and vulnerability that crosses the 300 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: I guess what you watch on TV and it's the Hey, 301 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: this is really hard when you're in it. You're experiencing 302 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: things you've never experienced before. You're competing or seeing fighting 303 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: after somebody you probably care a little bit about. You 304 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: might not fall in love with the bachelor Bachelor, but 305 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 1: you care about them. You want to be there because 306 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: you have friends there, You're experiencing amazing things, and at 307 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: the end of the day, you also probably you know, 308 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: have this interest and intrigue into who the lead is 309 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: and all these things. It puts a pressure cooker around you, 310 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: and you get insecure because there's everybody's around you is 311 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: good looking and they're confident, and they're you know, coming 312 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: off and edible in their dress. Nice. All these things 313 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 1: are hard and it's not your typical environment and people 314 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 1: react differently to it, and we have to understand why 315 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:13,919 Speaker 1: and give grace in those situations because this is not easy. 316 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: It's not as easy as it looks on television. It's 317 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 1: really hard. We watch two hours every week of what 318 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: do you think? Um, I mean, it's almost twenty four 319 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: seven filming. I mean, there's a lot of stuff going 320 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: on that we don't get to see that's exhausting. And 321 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: when you get exhausted by all this, Michelle, we've got 322 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: to make sure that these contestants are healthy. 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Michelle, I gotta be honest, I 352 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 1: feel a little bit weird, a little bit odd about 353 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: this next little segment talking about the energy one on 354 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 1: one you do. I mean, I'm in a happy relationship 355 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: with a man. Meanwhile, I want to be taking a 356 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: mud bath with Hannah. Gee. I was gonna say, I 357 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: don't know how to talk about this without like, sometimes 358 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: I get giddy, but sometimes I just feel weird. Right now, 359 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 1: I just kind of feel weird and giddy, like I 360 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: watched this and I didn't know how to feel. Um, 361 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:45,880 Speaker 1: would you like to bring David the Chicken man into 362 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: this conversation? He's on the phone. Nobody that my mark. 363 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: There's nobody that makes situations less awkward than David the Chicken, 364 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: So yeah, please bring him in. Can we call him up? 365 00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: He's right here. And by the way, we got an 366 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 1: email from Nicole saying, can you please bring David the 367 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: Chicken back on the podcast? He was so funny when 368 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: you guys had him on all the time, and he 369 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 1: hasn't but not it forever thank you. Yeah, David, you 370 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 1: out there, buddy? Hey Ben, Hey Ashley, how's it going. 371 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 1: It's it's you've already made this awkward, David. It's it's 372 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: it's confusing. I know I'm filling in for Ashley. It's 373 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: Michelle Money. How are you hey? What's going on, Michelle? 374 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 1: I'm well, I'm well good. Thanks for having me, guys, Michelle. 375 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: One thing you might not know about David is not 376 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 1: only is he incredibly good looking, Tan and um just 377 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,360 Speaker 1: super cares Mack, he's also super smart. So let's catch 378 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 1: up with him. David. You're getting your You're what masters 379 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: right now? Yeah? I'm getting my MBA at the University 380 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:48,880 Speaker 1: of Miami. Enjoying the like down here in Miami. It's 381 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,479 Speaker 1: pretty fun. What does that mean? Are you shirtless at 382 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: the bar every weekend? Right now? I'm actually on campus, 383 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 1: but there is a bar on campus, so I could 384 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:04,400 Speaker 1: be incredible. M David. What do you think so far 385 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 1: of this year's season with Colton? So, to be completely honest, 386 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:13,959 Speaker 1: I actually haven't been able to watch everything. I've watched 387 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:17,360 Speaker 1: clips and read a lot um From everything I see 388 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: and everything, I know, he's doing a great job. And 389 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 1: you know, he's uh, like he's enjoying the whole entire journey, 390 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: and you know he's having fun with it. It looks 391 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 1: like um, and you know, I think it's been a 392 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 1: great season so far from what I've seen. Is there 393 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 1: any moment in the last year and a half that 394 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: you've been watching this show and been like that should 395 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:46,959 Speaker 1: have been me? I know, not at all. Uh, you know, 396 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 1: I'm happy without think that turned out. Happy to be 397 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: in school. Um, I'm good with where I am in life. 398 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: That's great. I've always loved you, David, you know that. Um. 399 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:01,479 Speaker 1: I liked it when you came on the podcast more. 400 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: I feel like once you started getting smarter and more 401 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,719 Speaker 1: edge located, you stopped coming on the almost famous podcast. 402 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: I want to ask you why, no, no, you guys 403 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: just didn't call me. I love I love chatting with 404 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: you guys and love you too. Then, um, you know, 405 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 1: I mean, look, it's really fun to have, you know, 406 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,919 Speaker 1: have Bachelor in part of my life and it'll always 407 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: be part of my life. But that's exactly what it is. 408 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:26,959 Speaker 1: You know, it's a part of my life. It's not 409 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: my end all be all, and um, you know, it's 410 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: just it's a great aspect of you know what I 411 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: did and I'm happy I did it, you know what 412 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: I mean. That's how often the two of you get 413 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: recognized now, Uh, just walking around town or on the 414 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,880 Speaker 1: streets and people say you're so and so from the Bachelor. 415 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 1: You answer that first, David the Chicken and how about you? Well, 416 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: it's so so Living in Utah, I hosted a talk 417 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: show for like three years. A lot of I was 418 00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 1: on TV at home in Utah too, so a lot 419 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 1: of times people would recognize me from good things you 420 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 1: taught or from the Bachelor. But it just depends on when, 421 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,159 Speaker 1: and it just depends on on when and where, like 422 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: what's actually going on, Like yeah, exactly, Um, I completely agree. 423 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 1: And um, you know it's really dependent on where I go. 424 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 1: If I go to Ah, let's say bar where it's 425 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: the watcher's demographic, Yeah, sure, Um, you know, people are 426 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 1: going to recognize me and people will come up and 427 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 1: say hello, and it's really fun. I mean, my friends 428 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 1: love it. My friends loves being you know when that happens, 429 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,679 Speaker 1: and it's it's really it's it's really cool and like 430 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:40,679 Speaker 1: one of the things that I've never thought before, like 431 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 1: people would recognize me oh my god, it must have 432 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 1: done something really cool. So I don't know, it's fun. Ben. 433 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 1: How often are you do you get recognized? I feel 434 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 1: like a lot. Yeah, Like I feel like when you 435 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: are yeah, did you like always said that was so 436 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 1: much confidence. I've been thinking about this. Basically I thought 437 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 1: it would stop, but I feel like Bachelor Nation just 438 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 1: either continues to grow or that I just run into 439 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,120 Speaker 1: random people at random times. But I mean, I think 440 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 1: any place, especially like airports or stuff like that, like 441 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 1: people love this show so much and so yeah, people 442 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,919 Speaker 1: seem to still you stop and say hey, you're so 443 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:20,719 Speaker 1: and so. I mean, I'm three years out on this 444 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: thing and people. I feel people can pick up on 445 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: your energy, like if you're like if I'm like open 446 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 1: and like my head's up and I'm like, people will 447 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: come approach me more often about like if I'm my 448 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:34,679 Speaker 1: head's down, I'm like on my phone, people kind of 449 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: like are a lot more reluctant to come say anything. 450 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: I always love it when people do. It makes me 451 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: feel so special and people are so nice. And I 452 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: think one of one of the interesting things is when 453 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: I when I meet people and I'm you know, very 454 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: self aware of kind of how the show went, and 455 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 1: they'll say, oh, here's the Here's the one thing you 456 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: know about David is he likes to describe himself. He's 457 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 1: very self aware, all right, So in any case, but 458 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,679 Speaker 1: when when people you know come up and talk to 459 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 1: them for call it five ten minutes, um, and you know, 460 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 1: I'm just me, and you know, they end up saying, Wow, 461 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 1: you're actually you know, you're really nice in person. You 462 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: know you didn't necessarily come off that way on the show. 463 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: And that's the same same I get that too, broth. 464 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 1: You know, it's just like, I know, I wish I 465 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 1: could talk to all those people out there, but I can. 466 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 1: And you know, it's just fun to actually show people 467 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 1: who I am in person and talk with the real 468 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 1: may if you will. I like to think that the 469 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 1: Almost Famous podcast did a really good job at kind 470 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 1: of reinventing who you are to the public. I think 471 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 1: I think we can all take credit. I heart video 472 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: can for letting people know the real David. You know what, 473 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: I get a lot before we let you go, David, 474 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:49,159 Speaker 1: I know you've got a lot of studying to do 475 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 1: and all catching up. Um. I get one of two things. 476 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,919 Speaker 1: Most of the time, let's say three things. Every interaction 477 00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:00,199 Speaker 1: I have mostly starts with are you been by They 478 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: look at me like I don't really know if you 479 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 1: are not, which then follows with your last skinnier on TV, 480 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: or it's you know what, you actually are better looking 481 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: in person, and it's like this always like that doesn't 482 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 1: like you on the show kind of stuff. Yeah, and 483 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 1: the whole time you're kind of wondering, you know, feel 484 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: like thank you a question mark, thank you, I say, 485 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,199 Speaker 1: I'm no longer into this. Hey, David, thank you so 486 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: much for coming on the podcast. Come back sometime. We 487 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 1: can't have you disappear on us. And if I never 488 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 1: see a picture of you online with your shirt off 489 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 1: at a club in Miami, I'm gonna be very upset 490 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: with you. But then we'll have podcast. I can't promise that. 491 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: The last thing I'll day is um, I just want 492 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 1: to congratulate my sister. She just had her first baby overnight, 493 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:53,640 Speaker 1: baby boy named Dylan Cooper, and just want to congratulate her. 494 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: Alrighty guys, I'll talk to you guys later. Have a 495 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 1: good thing, heydy Ben. Yeah, do you know I have 496 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 1: a fourteen year old No, I have a fourteen year old. 497 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 1: She just turned fourteen a few days ago. Does she 498 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 1: watch the show? Absolutely not. I'm glad you didn't watch 499 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:23,959 Speaker 1: this week's episode. We're gonna talk about the Hannah Gy 500 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:28,439 Speaker 1: Colton one on one, but we before we do. 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Sign up 520 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: at almost famous dot robin hood dot com. That's almost 521 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 1: famous dot robin hood dot com. Come on, almost famous listeners, 522 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 1: let's invest, let's build for the future. Retirement. It's just 523 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: in front of us. Hey, uh, Michelle, Yes, it's time. 524 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: It's time, It's time. Time, It's the moment we've all 525 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: been waiting for actions. What's one word you used to 526 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 1: describe the colden hander g one on one? Just hot, 527 00:28:56,360 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: mainly just sexy hot sexual. There's so many words which 528 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: I don't know. There's a lot. What's your word? There's 529 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: a lot, I don't know. I'm going to throw this 530 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: one up to the listeners. Listeners, after watching this week's 531 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: episode with Colton and Hannah, g use one word? Can 532 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 1: you write us at Ben and Ashley at I heeart 533 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 1: Media dot com. One word? Just one word that you 534 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 1: would use to describe this date. I have the word 535 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 1: what is it erotic? Yeah? I think that's perfect. That's 536 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 1: exactly Yeah. It was very erotic. It was answer is erotic? 537 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 1: It was a lot to watch. It wasn't. Here's the deal. 538 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: I just have to say this, Okay, So Hannah g 539 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 1: has kind of just been like she's a little bit 540 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: more meek and soft and sweet and and then but 541 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 1: when she gets those sexual like juice is flowing, she 542 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 1: just comes alive. And so we call it sexual juices, 543 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 1: sexual uses flowing. I mean, I know, I'm so sorry, 544 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 1: but I just I love a girl that just owns 545 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 1: her sexuality because not only is she making out with Colton, 546 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 1: there's like producers, camera guys, there's people all up in 547 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 1: her grill, and she's just in the moment. Man, she 548 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 1: is feeling it. She is going after it. She is 549 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 1: not holding back. She is letting her feminine power take 550 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: over that mud bath, that massage table, and she is 551 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 1: enjoying every second of it as she should, as she should. 552 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 1: You you know you're right, and let's like, let's stop 553 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: for a second, because yes, I think it's terrific. It's 554 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 1: still hard to watch, Like it's still weird to watch, 555 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: is it, though? No, Well this is it's like, my buddy. 556 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: So here's the deal. I want to see Colton tonight 557 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 1: at his wine opening. He's starting a wine brand for 558 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 1: his nonprofit and I have to look at this dude 559 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 1: in the eyes after just like I know what was happening. Yeah, yeah, 560 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 1: Like I don't know if I like that. I don't 561 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 1: know if there's any of my friends that I enjoy 562 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: getting that close to something so intimate. Well, the first 563 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: thing I think of is her parents, like her family. 564 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 1: It's like that that yeah man, she yep, she forgot 565 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 1: that was going to be a thing, and Grandma is 566 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 1: going to be thrilled. But I do, I do have 567 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 1: to give it to her because I I think that 568 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: it's it's important and it's okay, and it's a beautiful 569 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 1: part of our sexuality to be able to express ourselves sexually. 570 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 1: And I think it's she just went for it and 571 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 1: he was loving it. And you can tell that their 572 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: chemistry is like off the charts right like it's they 573 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 1: it's there and it is strong and it is alive, 574 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: and it's yeah it is. I wonder if I want 575 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 1: to sit on this for a little bit, because I 576 00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 1: think this is actually more than anything, I really important 577 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 1: part of this whole season is this date because I 578 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 1: do think we saw the chemistry. I thought we saw 579 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 1: the two of them come to live together. I thought, 580 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 1: you know, for weeks, we've kind of wondered, where's hand 581 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 1: to ge sitting this whole thing. She's quiet, she's me 582 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 1: she's she's a little bit more subdued, and so like, 583 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 1: we don't know where they stand anymore. And then this happens, 584 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 1: and once they get together one on one her, you know, 585 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 1: they come alive together. And I think we saw that. 586 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 1: So here's the question. Do you think Colton and the 587 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 1: show knew how much their physical chemistry was kind of brewing? 588 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 1: And so they picked the sexiest day alive to sit 589 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 1: them together with it in so that they're mudded up 590 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 1: in bathing suits together on massage beds like this. This 591 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 1: had to be a little bit playing. This isn't happening 592 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 1: with everybody. No, I think you're totally right because the 593 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 1: episode where they made out in the bed, you could 594 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 1: tell that there was just like there was chemistry. And 595 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 1: and this is the other thing I want to say 596 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 1: about Hannah Gy that I've found to be really refreshing 597 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 1: is there was a conversation between Cassie and Kaylin where 598 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 1: they were kind of alluding to the fact that, like 599 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 1: Hannah Gee, there's not a lot of depth to her. 600 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 1: She's she's kind of been um had to use her 601 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 1: beauty to get this far in life. It will be 602 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 1: interesting to see how this date goes kind of a 603 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 1: deal and I just have to say, like, I find 604 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 1: it like I found I was so drawn to Hannah 605 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 1: Gee after the conversation they had at dinner where she 606 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 1: opened up about the divorce of her parents and and 607 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 1: I think it's easy to assume that these beautiful girls 608 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 1: don't have a lot of depth to them, and yeah, 609 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 1: they might be these sexual beings as well, but there 610 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 1: is depth to Hannah Gee that like she might just 611 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 1: not be opening up to you, right, like this girl, 612 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 1: how I think. I think Hannah Gee seems to have 613 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 1: a lot of depth, and she seems to be very 614 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: self aware, and I think she's a smart, beautiful woman 615 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 1: who also steps into her sexuality that I think is 616 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:03,479 Speaker 1: powerful and important. And so I found it to be 617 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 1: incredibly refreshing. And I really think that, Um, just because 618 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 1: she's this beautiful little bombshell, you know, doesn't mean there's 619 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 1: not really, you know, like incredible depth there. Yeah, I 620 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: have a question. I want to pause for a second 621 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: and just take this off. You just mentioned that you 622 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 1: have a fourteen year old daughter, Um, how then do 623 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,839 Speaker 1: you have these kind of conversations with your daughter? As 624 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,840 Speaker 1: you know, obviously you know the show is really popular 625 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,279 Speaker 1: in pop culture. People your daughter's age are starting to 626 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,799 Speaker 1: watch it. Are you starting to kind of have these 627 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 1: talks or if for anybody out there listening is a 628 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 1: mom or has a young young child, how do you 629 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 1: recommend those parents connecting with their children to have these open, 630 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 1: honest dialogues about what they're feeling, what they're experiencing, and 631 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 1: and who they're becoming. Well, I think it's incredibly important 632 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,919 Speaker 1: to have the conversation with your children at some age. 633 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,360 Speaker 1: I think you can be sixteen and be very immature. 634 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 1: You can also be twelve and be very mature, right, 635 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 1: So I think it's an intuitive thing, but I think 636 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 1: it's so important to to talk to our children about 637 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 1: those sexual feelings about you know, our hormones and the 638 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,439 Speaker 1: feelings that come up in our body. They're very real 639 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,719 Speaker 1: and they're very powerful, and it's important to understand them 640 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 1: and to know that there's nothing wrong with that and 641 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 1: that they're just it's a normal part of being a human. 642 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 1: And when you feel shame around that or you feel 643 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:29,360 Speaker 1: embarrassed because of it. It's that's not empowering these young girls, 644 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:33,359 Speaker 1: but but giving them the information and helping them, um 645 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 1: understand that it's a it's a sacred, special part of 646 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 1: being a woman, and it's important to to understand it 647 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 1: and to feel it. But to um two, only give 648 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 1: that away when you feel comfortable giving that away, And 649 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: that no one should be touching your body without your permission, 650 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 1: that even if someone hugs you like and that you 651 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,400 Speaker 1: didn't ask for that. Like. It's just so orton for 652 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,280 Speaker 1: these young girls and for all women to to step 653 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,799 Speaker 1: into their power and to step until step into their 654 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 1: sexual power and um and not give that away uh frivolously, 655 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 1: but to to see it as the as the feminine 656 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 1: power that we all have within us. Wow, that's terrific. 657 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 1: That's how I feel. I bet you're a great mom. 658 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 1: I haven't seen you around your daughter, but you're a 659 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:30,319 Speaker 1: probably fantastic mother. The so Colton and Hannah Gee have 660 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 1: a very erotic, sexy, steamy date. Here's one thing. I 661 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:39,359 Speaker 1: got an email that said, uh, and this just came 662 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 1: to my personal email, kind of kind of funny, but 663 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 1: they said, one thing that knows about Colton is. He 664 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 1: loves to grab the butt. He's a big greaty grabber. 665 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 1: He is, And I noticed watching this episode he's a 666 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:53,480 Speaker 1: big booty grabber. Yeah, just took that out for all 667 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 1: your listeners out there, Um, Colton's booty grabber. Hey. Uh, 668 00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:58,799 Speaker 1: so we're taking off this date and the one on 669 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 1: one uh with Hannah g and the girls now are jealous. 670 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 1: They're nervous about his connection with Hannah because they can 671 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 1: sense it. They can feel it, they can see it. 672 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 1: Something is going on. There is Hannah Gee one of 673 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 1: your front runners. Yeah, like top two um up to 674 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,920 Speaker 1: this point, from what I know of her and what 675 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 1: I've seen of her, Yeah, man, she might be Yeah, 676 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 1: I agree, So we're moving on. Then he has a 677 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,360 Speaker 1: great date with Hannah Ge. The episode takes us to 678 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:32,319 Speaker 1: a place where we start seeing Sydney melting down a bit. 679 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,800 Speaker 1: She's starting to kind of get the lease syndrome where 680 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,360 Speaker 1: this isn't working for her. Uh. They haven't had enough time. 681 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 1: Her connection with Colton is fading, and she she kind 682 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 1: of wanted wants to get back home. I don't want 683 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,879 Speaker 1: to assume anything on her behalf, and that's why we're 684 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:52,840 Speaker 1: bringing her on the podcast, Sydney, thanks for joining the 685 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 1: Almost Famous podcast. Hi guys, what's up, Sydney. I'm so 686 00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 1: excited to talk to you. I feel like I have 687 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 1: seventeen million questions. Okay, First of all, you guys, you 688 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 1: have been so delightful to watch on my television, like 689 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 1: you really are and it sounds like all the girls 690 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 1: love you. You just have carried yourself with such class 691 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 1: and you're such a beauty and I just am so 692 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:21,279 Speaker 1: impressed by you from start to finish. Thank you. That's 693 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 1: so sweet. I mean, it's really hard to do and 694 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 1: certain like situations, so I appreciate you for saying that 695 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:32,759 Speaker 1: the you know, Michelle's were preparing for this podcast. Uh 696 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 1: really did, Sydney. She just said she's proud of you. 697 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,359 Speaker 1: She's excited to talk to you, Sydney. I want to 698 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,640 Speaker 1: know a little bit of background, right so for anybody 699 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 1: out there listening. Some people listen to this podcast and 700 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 1: they haven't gotten to watch every episode. If you don't 701 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 1: mind giving our listeners a little bit of background about 702 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 1: who you are, your time on the Bachelor, and then 703 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,239 Speaker 1: let's end it with you talking about kind of your 704 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 1: thoughts and nerves and how long those lasted leading up 705 00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:01,800 Speaker 1: to your time to say goodbye to Colton. Okay, yeah, sure, 706 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:05,759 Speaker 1: So I guess from the show um perspective, I'm like 707 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:09,799 Speaker 1: the dancer girl that came from New York, UM, who 708 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:13,680 Speaker 1: essentially left her job to pursue Colton. So I think 709 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:18,120 Speaker 1: that's like how America was first introduced to me. And yeah, 710 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,879 Speaker 1: that's how my journey kind of started on the show. Um, 711 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,359 Speaker 1: I've been a dancer since I was like three, So 712 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,920 Speaker 1: that's like something that's very special to me and something 713 00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 1: that I've always like worked very hard at and always 714 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 1: been like a huge punt of my life. So that's 715 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 1: like my background. And then I think on the show, 716 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,000 Speaker 1: you didn't see a ton of me always, but whenever 717 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,920 Speaker 1: you did see me, I had some key moments that 718 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 1: I was, uh the girl that was like stretching with 719 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 1: Colton that one episode, Um, I was one banging pots 720 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:52,200 Speaker 1: and parents another episode and yeah, and then ultimately I'm 721 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,359 Speaker 1: I had like a very big conversation at the end 722 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:59,799 Speaker 1: with him before my ultimate leaving the show. So that's 723 00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:01,960 Speaker 1: the little bit about me on the show. Other than that, Um, 724 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,720 Speaker 1: I'm rem Virginia Beach. I grew up there actually school 725 00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:09,319 Speaker 1: and I think Burnham's hometown, which was really funny. UM. 726 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,799 Speaker 1: So I grew up there was a beach girl. I 727 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,759 Speaker 1: started dancing, like I said, when I was really young, 728 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:15,319 Speaker 1: and I was like always a huge part of my 729 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:19,040 Speaker 1: life and I decided to keep pursuing it once I 730 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 1: graduated high school and I went to school UM in 731 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:25,839 Speaker 1: the city at Marymount and graduated, I started the whole 732 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,279 Speaker 1: auditioning circuit UM thing that you do in New York, 733 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,520 Speaker 1: and I ended up joining UM, an NBA dance team 734 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,240 Speaker 1: in the city and I did that for two years, 735 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,279 Speaker 1: which was ended up being the job that I left 736 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,319 Speaker 1: in order to go onto the show. So it's a 737 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,080 Speaker 1: little bit about me in the nutshell. I love it. 738 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,320 Speaker 1: I love it, and it sounds like you're super ambitious 739 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,200 Speaker 1: and just kind of a woman who knows what she wants, 740 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:51,040 Speaker 1: which is what I loved. I'm seeing you step into 741 00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:55,040 Speaker 1: in the episode where you had this hard conversation. I 742 00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:58,360 Speaker 1: want to just ask you quickly, was was this like 743 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,799 Speaker 1: built up emotion or did it kind of just like 744 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:07,440 Speaker 1: erupt on this particular date. Well, with that last day, 745 00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:10,480 Speaker 1: it was definitely not what I had planned for. I 746 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,600 Speaker 1: think the build up for me was that I felt 747 00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:14,480 Speaker 1: like every time I talked to him, like it was 748 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,600 Speaker 1: always a great conversation and we always had a good 749 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,160 Speaker 1: time with one another, but anytime I asked him like 750 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,880 Speaker 1: harder questions, the things that I needed to know about 751 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 1: him in order for me to really like know that 752 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,680 Speaker 1: I can progress with him and actually like see myself 753 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,520 Speaker 1: at the end of this with him. Because I was 754 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,439 Speaker 1: really serious about getting to the like nitty gritty of things, 755 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:34,880 Speaker 1: I never really thought the answers that I wanted, and 756 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,279 Speaker 1: I never felt I felt like he didn't want to 757 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,919 Speaker 1: connect with me on that level for whatever reason. So 758 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:42,879 Speaker 1: then that last date, it was a lot of doing 759 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,040 Speaker 1: that the whole time I was there, and then by 760 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,200 Speaker 1: the last day, I was like, well, listen, like we're 761 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:51,640 Speaker 1: getting very close to hometowns and I've never personally brought 762 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:53,839 Speaker 1: anyone home to meet my family. I've never had work 763 00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,480 Speaker 1: them before, and it's something I take very seriously. So 764 00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:58,239 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm going to take this serious now, 765 00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,200 Speaker 1: and like, can you change you're you've been doing with me? 766 00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,680 Speaker 1: Can you actually like fight for me and like be 767 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:05,520 Speaker 1: the man that I need you to be, because it's 768 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,640 Speaker 1: not like it doesn't make sense for me to stay 769 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,959 Speaker 1: here anymore and just be like a placeholder. So yeah, 770 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:14,239 Speaker 1: that's essentially what my terms were at the end, and 771 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,279 Speaker 1: I didn't expect to be leaving the way I did. 772 00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:19,319 Speaker 1: But um, what do you mean you what do you mean? 773 00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,759 Speaker 1: You didn't expect to be? Like? What were you expecting? 774 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:26,080 Speaker 1: I expected to feel when I brought that up to him, 775 00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:27,759 Speaker 1: I was hoping that he would be like, yeah, like 776 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:29,480 Speaker 1: I want to fight for this, like I feel good 777 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,319 Speaker 1: about this, like I see a sound connection. And I 778 00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:36,320 Speaker 1: didn't get that, and I was like, oh, okay, so shoe, 779 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,480 Speaker 1: now I should probably go because he's not going to 780 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:40,719 Speaker 1: do it for me. He's not going to get there 781 00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:45,680 Speaker 1: for me. So yeah, that's what happened. So you went 782 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:49,120 Speaker 1: to him, which is common in relationships. I've done that 783 00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,000 Speaker 1: a couple of times. I don't know if you have, Michelle, 784 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:54,120 Speaker 1: but you know, you're you're doubting something, you're questioning something. 785 00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,480 Speaker 1: It's hard to go out of your way and get 786 00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,880 Speaker 1: there like the truthful answer or the vulnerable answer. So 787 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,200 Speaker 1: kind of approach it like Sidney did. She goes, Hey, 788 00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,480 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm feeling a little bit like I'm 789 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,640 Speaker 1: not in this. I feel like you're not into me. 790 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,279 Speaker 1: We're not connecting. Am I reading this wrong or not? 791 00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,759 Speaker 1: And and Colton just pretty much to you, No, you're 792 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:16,680 Speaker 1: not your your spot on it's probably time to go, Sydney. 793 00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:20,640 Speaker 1: Was were you disappointed? Oh? You know? Do you wish 794 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,040 Speaker 1: you would have approached it a different way? Is there 795 00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,200 Speaker 1: a better I mean, Michelle, I want you to if 796 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:26,799 Speaker 1: you can't help me out too, is there a better 797 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:31,040 Speaker 1: way in relationships approach those kind of questions? Yeah, I 798 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,279 Speaker 1: mean I'm not disappointed. I'm disappointed because I feel like 799 00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,600 Speaker 1: maybe he didn't completely good to know me as I 800 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,319 Speaker 1: wanted him to, um come, like from the whole time 801 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:41,759 Speaker 1: I was there, like I got to know a lot 802 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,279 Speaker 1: of me, but like, um, I wanted to just feel 803 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,960 Speaker 1: like I gave my whole self like into the situation 804 00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,680 Speaker 1: and I don't think that call at all. So that 805 00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:53,600 Speaker 1: was disappointing, But I'm not disappointed. And how it ended, 806 00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,280 Speaker 1: I feel like in a way I might have helped 807 00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,640 Speaker 1: him on his journey, Like, ultimately, I want him to 808 00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,840 Speaker 1: find what he's looking for, and I hope that it 809 00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:02,759 Speaker 1: not me than he. I can at least help them 810 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:04,919 Speaker 1: to find what that is that was me going into 811 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:06,839 Speaker 1: that thing. Like, this is who I am. These are 812 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,080 Speaker 1: things that I need. I know that. I think I 813 00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:10,520 Speaker 1: know what the things that you need, and I think 814 00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,560 Speaker 1: I am those. But if you don't see me as that, 815 00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,279 Speaker 1: then maybe you need to try harder and find the 816 00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,320 Speaker 1: person that is supposed to be for you, if that 817 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,239 Speaker 1: makes sense. Yeah, that role that you kind of took 818 00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,239 Speaker 1: on was really like cool to watch because it was 819 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:26,080 Speaker 1: a little bit of like listen, you know, I'm not 820 00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,719 Speaker 1: I'm not fully connected, like I need more from you. 821 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,120 Speaker 1: And I loved how direct you were, And this is 822 00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:33,840 Speaker 1: something I think we can take into our lives to 823 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,839 Speaker 1: kind of learn from. Is like, you know, a lot 824 00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:41,360 Speaker 1: of guys don't really know you kind of have to 825 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:44,520 Speaker 1: spell things out to them. It seems like like you 826 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,000 Speaker 1: kind of have to. Like it was like you kind 827 00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,080 Speaker 1: of sat them down. You're like, so this is what 828 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:51,040 Speaker 1: I'm not getting what I need from you, and can 829 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,280 Speaker 1: you give me more? And it was this very direct, 830 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,960 Speaker 1: like straightforward conversation that was so refreshing. Um, but I 831 00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:59,799 Speaker 1: think that you could tell, you know, after you got 832 00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:01,400 Speaker 1: some home. I loved that you kind of took on 833 00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,239 Speaker 1: this role of like listen, um, don't get distracted by 834 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:05,960 Speaker 1: the shiny things out there. You kind of took on 835 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:09,400 Speaker 1: this friendship role that I think he actually really needed 836 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,160 Speaker 1: more so um than anything at that point. Is that's 837 00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:13,719 Speaker 1: what it felt like to me, as if you were, 838 00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:17,920 Speaker 1: um that like he kind of needed you, like for 839 00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:22,440 Speaker 1: that little reminder. Yeah, I know, because it's such a 840 00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,560 Speaker 1: hard situation. And I totally understood that, and I could 841 00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:29,080 Speaker 1: see that he was trying, and I was like, well, ultimately, 842 00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,359 Speaker 1: this is my goal, my my what I need, and 843 00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,359 Speaker 1: like I want to help you out in any way 844 00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:36,480 Speaker 1: that I can if I am ultimately leaving. So I 845 00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,120 Speaker 1: hope that I did that, and I feel like I 846 00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:42,400 Speaker 1: did that. Um, it seems like you did, so this 847 00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,360 Speaker 1: is my question. So okay, so in the moment, that 848 00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,120 Speaker 1: felt like the right thing to do. So there you 849 00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:49,480 Speaker 1: are on the show like that everything is so heightened, 850 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,960 Speaker 1: all your feelings behind everything is just like extra. Um 851 00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:57,799 Speaker 1: when you got home, did you regret that decision? Oh? 852 00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,520 Speaker 1: I don't know. Oh, I mean I didn't regret it. 853 00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,040 Speaker 1: I knew in that moment when I had that conversation 854 00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,440 Speaker 1: with him that he wasn't going to be my person. 855 00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:08,160 Speaker 1: I knew that I wasn't going to be his person. 856 00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,000 Speaker 1: So and I didn't want to waste anyone's time. Like 857 00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,120 Speaker 1: I came here to be serious and I wanted to 858 00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:14,600 Speaker 1: figure out if this was right for me, and if 859 00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,280 Speaker 1: it wasn't, then I don't want to yeah, stay around 860 00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,080 Speaker 1: and just like have a free vacation, like that's not 861 00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,480 Speaker 1: what I was there for. So I didn't regret it. 862 00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:24,960 Speaker 1: I felt good about the decision I made. I mean, 863 00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:28,799 Speaker 1: it was like obviously very sad and not like how 864 00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,840 Speaker 1: you want to leave, but I ultimately feel good about 865 00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:33,640 Speaker 1: my choice about leaving because when I got back, I 866 00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:38,680 Speaker 1: was like, well, hopefully, like whatever happened, he I played 867 00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,280 Speaker 1: a part in the end of this journey, it seems 868 00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:44,080 Speaker 1: like you did. Um, did you get along with all 869 00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,080 Speaker 1: the girls? Did you guys just have so much fun? 870 00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,040 Speaker 1: I had some really strong friendship that I felt. I 871 00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,160 Speaker 1: think that you can start seeing that and these like 872 00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:55,560 Speaker 1: episodes coming up. Um, I was like really good friends 873 00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:59,040 Speaker 1: with like Tatia and Kirpa and Nicole, We like really 874 00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:02,200 Speaker 1: got along. Well, Yeah, I love them very much because 875 00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:04,960 Speaker 1: you're always around them, so it's like easy to make 876 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:08,759 Speaker 1: strong friendships. I'm curious to know you had mentioned to him. 877 00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:12,719 Speaker 1: Don't be distracted by shiny things. Can you elaborate a 878 00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:16,640 Speaker 1: little bit more on what those shiny things are or like? 879 00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:20,040 Speaker 1: And have those feelings changed or evolved for you about 880 00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:23,120 Speaker 1: these people? And I just would love to know more 881 00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:27,479 Speaker 1: about where that came from. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean 882 00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:31,480 Speaker 1: he was going for like the girls and like that 883 00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:33,480 Speaker 1: kind of thing, which is a great like he like 884 00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:35,239 Speaker 1: has strong feelings for a lot of them. But I 885 00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:38,120 Speaker 1: feel like he could easily get distracted by like the 886 00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:41,200 Speaker 1: idea of people instead of like actually asking them the 887 00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:44,680 Speaker 1: harder questions. So why I just had a sense about um, 888 00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,480 Speaker 1: so I wanted him just to like, yes, everyone they're 889 00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,840 Speaker 1: is beautiful and everyone has like great things, but I 890 00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,280 Speaker 1: want you to like ask them like are they ready 891 00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,200 Speaker 1: to be married? Essentially at the end of this, because 892 00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:56,960 Speaker 1: that's what he every time he gave us a speech 893 00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,040 Speaker 1: at a costail party or whatever, he'd be like, I'm 894 00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:00,960 Speaker 1: looking for my wife. I feel like my wife is 895 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,400 Speaker 1: in this room. I'm like, Okay, if you're looking for 896 00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:06,000 Speaker 1: your wife, like make sure that that's what you're looking for. 897 00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:09,239 Speaker 1: You just like going after like who's like shining being 898 00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,560 Speaker 1: like a shiny thing, I guess is the best play. Yeah, 899 00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:13,759 Speaker 1: I think I think you said it in a way 900 00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,080 Speaker 1: that really impacted him. It seems to me like what 901 00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,480 Speaker 1: you said really was like I need to think about this, 902 00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:20,360 Speaker 1: which I thought was Yeah. I just wanted him to 903 00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,600 Speaker 1: like think a little bit more about the things that 904 00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:26,360 Speaker 1: he was, yeah, pursuing. Essentially, it's like food for thoughts. 905 00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:32,200 Speaker 1: It's you know, as we watch this season, there's been 906 00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:34,240 Speaker 1: this dynamic that a lot of people are talking about. 907 00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:38,240 Speaker 1: Is everybody you know when you left the show? Uh, 908 00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:41,600 Speaker 1: there is this I want to say, support of Colton, 909 00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,160 Speaker 1: which you don't see a lot in the Bachelor franchise, 910 00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:46,959 Speaker 1: especially when it comes to The Bachelor. You see it 911 00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:48,840 Speaker 1: with the Bachelor at you know, people get off the 912 00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:50,840 Speaker 1: show and they say great things. But with the Bachelor, 913 00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:52,960 Speaker 1: most of the contestants leave and they're like, yeah, I 914 00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,360 Speaker 1: don't like my Bachelor except the one that gets chosen. 915 00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:59,920 Speaker 1: It feels like this season you all are in support 916 00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:03,280 Speaker 1: of Colton. Is that is that true? Will the clause 917 00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:05,879 Speaker 1: come out after the final rows, which they usually do, 918 00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:09,120 Speaker 1: or do you think everybody kind of had this just 919 00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:13,359 Speaker 1: like affection for Colton to see what whatever's best for 920 00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:17,880 Speaker 1: him happen. I mean, I think I see what you mean. 921 00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,920 Speaker 1: I think actually that is true. Um, he's just like 922 00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:23,800 Speaker 1: all in all to his core, he's a very kind, 923 00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:27,600 Speaker 1: nice man and like a very good person, And how 924 00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:30,319 Speaker 1: could you not root for someone like that? Also, he's 925 00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,080 Speaker 1: I found him just refreshing as a person, Like you 926 00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,920 Speaker 1: don't meet many guys nowadays that are visions that like 927 00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,640 Speaker 1: his agent, like twenty six, So it's just like a 928 00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:41,640 Speaker 1: different thing that we're experiencing in culture. So he was 929 00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:43,399 Speaker 1: just kind of like a breath of fresh air. So 930 00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:46,320 Speaker 1: I think ultimately we're all just like kind of rooting 931 00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:51,080 Speaker 1: for him. Oh yeah, we're rooting form also, were wishing 932 00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:55,319 Speaker 1: the best. Uh, Sydney, what you did is admirable. Uh, 933 00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:59,919 Speaker 1: We've appreciated watching you. Um on this show, we hoped 934 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,560 Speaker 1: see you again. We We end every segment talking to 935 00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:04,959 Speaker 1: some it's been eliminated or has left in their own 936 00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:08,759 Speaker 1: from this season with this question would you and will 937 00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:14,640 Speaker 1: you be doing Paradise? Um? Would I do Paradise? I? 938 00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:18,640 Speaker 1: I think it was offered to me. I would. Um. Ultimately, 939 00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,360 Speaker 1: I feel like it would probably be the better situation 940 00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:23,360 Speaker 1: for me because I just need time to like settle 941 00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,280 Speaker 1: in and get no people. And it sounds like Paradise 942 00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,360 Speaker 1: is a lot of that and being on the beach 943 00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:32,680 Speaker 1: with cocktails. So oh yeah, probably. You know, you take 944 00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:35,799 Speaker 1: that opportunity. If it's offered to you, you take run. 945 00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:41,120 Speaker 1: We hope to see you. Thank you so much. We 946 00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:44,520 Speaker 1: hope to watch you. Thanks, thank you so much. Take 947 00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:50,279 Speaker 1: care of home. I like her, Yeah, I do think, 948 00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,439 Speaker 1: I know, I know, she's just she would be fun 949 00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,600 Speaker 1: to see on Paradise. Yeah, the show can can can 950 00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:00,759 Speaker 1: be difficult for people her who are normal. I would 951 00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:05,160 Speaker 1: say everybody on this season is beautiful. The women have 952 00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:08,120 Speaker 1: gone home have been beautiful. The woman they're still there 953 00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:10,880 Speaker 1: are beautiful. There's one thing that's always shocked me and 954 00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:14,680 Speaker 1: Michelle you as I sit here and look at you, uh, 955 00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:16,560 Speaker 1: you have the same thing. They all really nice hair. 956 00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:20,279 Speaker 1: They all have great hair. It must take a lot 957 00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:23,279 Speaker 1: to have this kind of hair. And then here's another 958 00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:26,960 Speaker 1: thing I've learned is in my life I have lived 959 00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,279 Speaker 1: with a woman. And when I live with a woman, 960 00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:34,080 Speaker 1: my bathroom piles up with bottles and bottles and bottles 961 00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:38,200 Speaker 1: of different shampoos and conditioners and shiners and whatever it is. 962 00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:40,520 Speaker 1: Now there's a solution for that. I don't have a 963 00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:42,439 Speaker 1: big house. I don't have a big bathroom. I can't 964 00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:45,640 Speaker 1: continue to just build up bottles in my shower and 965 00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:49,160 Speaker 1: its function of beauty. We all know the frustration bottles 966 00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:52,120 Speaker 1: on bottles piling up in your bathroom, each one falsely 967 00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:56,160 Speaker 1: promising a miracle solution. As I just talked about, it's crazy. 968 00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,560 Speaker 1: What if it didn't need to be this way? What 969 00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:03,719 Speaker 1: if there is just one shampoo that could truly do 970 00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:08,200 Speaker 1: it all? Wouldn't that be amazing? The truth is this exists. 971 00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:11,279 Speaker 1: This is called function of beauty, and function of beauty 972 00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:14,600 Speaker 1: addresses all of your hair concerns, not just one. So 973 00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:18,359 Speaker 1: most drug store brands only address a single concern like volume, eze, 974 00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:21,399 Speaker 1: or strengthen. But with Function of Beauty, you can choose 975 00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:24,560 Speaker 1: up to five hair goals to add to your formulation. 976 00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:29,319 Speaker 1: It's made with safe, natural ingredients, and it's vegan and 977 00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:35,400 Speaker 1: cruelty free. So I took the quiz and chose thermal protectant, hydrate, strengthen, 978 00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:39,160 Speaker 1: and volume I ize. Then I picked pink my shampoo 979 00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:42,400 Speaker 1: and conditioner to be pink. You guys with the flower 980 00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:46,520 Speaker 1: power scent, who wouldn't want that as your scent? Um 981 00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:51,200 Speaker 1: So listeners will receive off their first custom formula. Um, 982 00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:54,399 Speaker 1: go to function of beauty dot com now and take 983 00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:57,279 Speaker 1: the quick two minute hair quiz to design your one 984 00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:01,720 Speaker 1: percent unique shampoo and condition of formula. Use code almost 985 00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:04,960 Speaker 1: famous at checkout for twenty off your first order at 986 00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:08,080 Speaker 1: function of beauty dot com. You don't want to miss this, 987 00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:11,640 Speaker 1: so go to function of beauty dot com and use 988 00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:16,600 Speaker 1: code almost famous at checkout for twenty percent off your 989 00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:21,040 Speaker 1: first order. Hey Michelle, moving on here for a second. 990 00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:23,719 Speaker 1: There's a one on one day that kind of gets 991 00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:26,840 Speaker 1: I feel like covered up in this episode. Isn't the 992 00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:30,000 Speaker 1: most talked about thing because even the we've got more 993 00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:33,400 Speaker 1: emails on this podcast from who got eliminated at the 994 00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:36,360 Speaker 1: Row ceremony than on this one on one day, and 995 00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:41,080 Speaker 1: one on one days typically just completely take over this podcast. 996 00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:43,360 Speaker 1: It was a one on one day with Kerpa. I 997 00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:46,960 Speaker 1: would love for you to break this down, uh if 998 00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:52,279 Speaker 1: you don't mine well again, I think Herpa is one 999 00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:55,040 Speaker 1: of those women who in the right setting, under the 1000 00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:58,040 Speaker 1: right circumstances, can open up and really give you a 1001 00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,840 Speaker 1: lot of depth, um you know, And I found that 1002 00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:05,560 Speaker 1: to be the case with her. She just had um yeah, 1003 00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:09,560 Speaker 1: like she just had a lot of really interesting things 1004 00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:13,160 Speaker 1: to say on her date, once she finally felt comfortable, 1005 00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:15,759 Speaker 1: like and it just almost it's like it took a 1006 00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:18,520 Speaker 1: while for her to finally like kind of open up. 1007 00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:21,560 Speaker 1: What did you feel? Yeah, you know, I think it's 1008 00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:26,280 Speaker 1: that there was there was this. It was uncomfortable at times. 1009 00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:30,040 Speaker 1: I honestly, for a lot of the date, I didn't 1010 00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,680 Speaker 1: think she was gonna get throws. I didn't either, but 1011 00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:35,839 Speaker 1: then she wasn't there. But then she kind of like 1012 00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:39,759 Speaker 1: opened up a little bit. And I think that it's 1013 00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:44,080 Speaker 1: just being vulnerable. We have to be more vulnerable with 1014 00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:45,759 Speaker 1: each other. I think that's what brings us together and 1015 00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:48,080 Speaker 1: helps us connect. And when we're guarded and we have 1016 00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:51,360 Speaker 1: these walls up, it's just so hard to connect and 1017 00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:54,080 Speaker 1: break through. And I think that once she finally did that, 1018 00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:57,520 Speaker 1: I think I think you can tell Colton loves just 1019 00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:02,000 Speaker 1: authenticity and connection and it's almost like he finally got 1020 00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:04,200 Speaker 1: that from her and was like, Okay, cool, Now let's 1021 00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:06,480 Speaker 1: let's see if maybe there's more, you know. And I 1022 00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:09,680 Speaker 1: think that's why I gave her the rose. Yeah, it 1023 00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:12,480 Speaker 1: was surprising to me that she got through a rose. 1024 00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:15,359 Speaker 1: There's also a surprising piece in this episode, and it's 1025 00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:17,960 Speaker 1: how the episode ends. But before we do that, we've 1026 00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:21,760 Speaker 1: got to catch up, uh with our co host Michelle 1027 00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:27,439 Speaker 1: Ashley I Kennedtie. Welcome to All the Same podcast. Hi, then, 1028 00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:29,960 Speaker 1: I'm sorry that I've skipped two out of the past 1029 00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:33,400 Speaker 1: three weeks. I feel like a failure. Oh my gosh, 1030 00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:39,160 Speaker 1: Hi ash it's Michelle. Hello, how are you. I'm so 1031 00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:42,000 Speaker 1: sad I'm not sitting here with you. Oh I know 1032 00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:44,520 Speaker 1: where are you? Can you even tell us? Is it 1033 00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:47,080 Speaker 1: a secret? What's going on? It's a little bit of 1034 00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:49,920 Speaker 1: a secret, but everybody will know what it's about and 1035 00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:54,120 Speaker 1: about twelve hours and a little bit more than that. 1036 00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:55,799 Speaker 1: But Dared and I are in New York City and 1037 00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:59,480 Speaker 1: we're gonna be a getting married. Oh my god, We're 1038 00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:03,960 Speaker 1: gonna have Hoarding America wedding. They've probably done that before, 1039 00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:08,279 Speaker 1: could you imagine? Guys, alert, that's not what it is. 1040 00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:11,480 Speaker 1: But good will be like to Morning America around eight 1041 00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:14,759 Speaker 1: o'clock tomorrow morning and we will make our announcements. Then, 1042 00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:16,920 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, this is so exciting. Do you know 1043 00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:19,520 Speaker 1: what it is? Then? Do you know? You know both 1044 00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:21,560 Speaker 1: of us? Do you guys know? Oh my gosh, I 1045 00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:23,799 Speaker 1: hate that I don't know when you guys know, it's 1046 00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:27,040 Speaker 1: very exciting. It's gonna be a big deal. Ashley and 1047 00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:29,520 Speaker 1: Jared are on top of the world right now. She's 1048 00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:34,480 Speaker 1: a big deal, Ashley, He's the biggest deal, and we're 1049 00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:38,280 Speaker 1: just gonna be here to support her along the way. Ashley, 1050 00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:41,680 Speaker 1: I know that it's aching you that you haven't been 1051 00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:46,239 Speaker 1: in studio with us here recently. I hate the podcast 1052 00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:50,480 Speaker 1: because you missed me or what what's what's what's the reason? 1053 00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,640 Speaker 1: I just feel, yes, then I missed you that first 1054 00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:56,799 Speaker 1: and foremost, and secondly because I just feel like I 1055 00:56:56,840 --> 00:57:01,600 Speaker 1: need to do my job. You know, yeah, who needs 1056 00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:03,560 Speaker 1: to do a job. I'll be here. Yes, last week 1057 00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:07,480 Speaker 1: you just weren't together. The last week we weren't together. 1058 00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:10,040 Speaker 1: I counted last week, but week before I was in Kangoon. 1059 00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:16,840 Speaker 1: That's okay, that's fine, No worry about its episode. Actually 1060 00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:20,360 Speaker 1: I missed you, but I'm happy for next next week 1061 00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:22,720 Speaker 1: you're going to be gone. Right then I'll be in 1062 00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:27,080 Speaker 1: Honduras with Generous taking a bunch of people, uh down 1063 00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:29,560 Speaker 1: through the coffee farms of Central America. So yes, I 1064 00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:31,640 Speaker 1: will be gone next week, and so you'll make up 1065 00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:34,320 Speaker 1: for everything there. I do want to tell all all 1066 00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:36,480 Speaker 1: of our listeners out there, the announcement that Jared and 1067 00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:39,479 Speaker 1: Naturally are making is a big deal. It's really cool. 1068 00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:42,080 Speaker 1: I'm really proud of the both of them. I look 1069 00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:44,320 Speaker 1: up to both of them in a lot of ways. 1070 00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:47,040 Speaker 1: And so make sure you check out Good Morning America. 1071 00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:49,560 Speaker 1: But if you can't watch Good Morning America tomorrow, I 1072 00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:52,680 Speaker 1: guarantee you it will be all over social. So tomorrow 1073 00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:56,240 Speaker 1: at about I don't know, ten a m. Eastern, just 1074 00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:59,120 Speaker 1: go to social channels see what's going on. This is 1075 00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:01,800 Speaker 1: a really really cool deal. H Speaking of cool deals, 1076 00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:03,720 Speaker 1: we're here to talk about the Bachelor. Michelle has done 1077 00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:07,000 Speaker 1: a great job today. Ashley. We've had a couple of 1078 00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:09,840 Speaker 1: great guests who have broke down the episode with us 1079 00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:12,640 Speaker 1: and to kind of summarize, because I know you're coming 1080 00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:16,000 Speaker 1: in at the end here, what is your thoughts on 1081 00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:20,200 Speaker 1: this episode in general, not breaking down each moment, but Ashley, 1082 00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:23,800 Speaker 1: we're seeing a trend women are leaving on their own, 1083 00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:26,600 Speaker 1: which you know, Michelle and I are both saying, is 1084 00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:28,880 Speaker 1: is a great move on the woman's part. If they're 1085 00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:31,120 Speaker 1: not feeling it, they're they're taking control and they're taking 1086 00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:34,120 Speaker 1: ownership in and they're saying this isn't for me, But 1087 00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:37,800 Speaker 1: we also I saw a very heated one on one 1088 00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:42,920 Speaker 1: with Hannah G that we explained as erotic. Um Ashley 1089 00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:45,240 Speaker 1: that you take it from there because I know you'll 1090 00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:48,640 Speaker 1: do a great job and explain the rest. I do 1091 00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:53,920 Speaker 1: think the Hannah G date was super physical, and I like, 1092 00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:59,440 Speaker 1: I think their relationship is based pretty much on physical chemistry. 1093 00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:03,440 Speaker 1: But when I said this last week, Rachel said that 1094 00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:06,800 Speaker 1: she and Brian's relationship appeared on screen to just be 1095 00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:10,919 Speaker 1: physical as well, but they cut of all the all 1096 00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:14,680 Speaker 1: the substance to it. So Rachel was like, that's the 1097 00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:17,800 Speaker 1: way they portrayed our relationship, but that isn't really the 1098 00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:20,680 Speaker 1: best part of our relationship. Even though that part is great, 1099 00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:24,760 Speaker 1: it's not what kept us together. So perhaps with Hannah Gy, 1100 00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:28,520 Speaker 1: because she is like so sexy, they're just kind of 1101 00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:31,000 Speaker 1: focusing on that, even though there's a lot of other 1102 00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:33,960 Speaker 1: things they could have been focusing on. But I don't 1103 00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:36,720 Speaker 1: think like there's a whole bunch of like electricity when 1104 00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:39,400 Speaker 1: they talk, Like when they had their sit down part 1105 00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:43,880 Speaker 1: of the date, what do you think. I don't know, 1106 00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:47,880 Speaker 1: ash we were just discussing it. You're not wrong. Um. 1107 00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:50,120 Speaker 1: We we were glad and happy to get to hear 1108 00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:53,480 Speaker 1: a little bit more of Hannah's story because the one 1109 00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:55,880 Speaker 1: part that really frustrated me with this episode, and I 1110 00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:58,200 Speaker 1: think it's gonna get overlooked. Honestly, I don't know if 1111 00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:02,280 Speaker 1: the listeners are gonna um react as as much as 1112 01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:05,240 Speaker 1: maybe we did is the Cassie Kalin, which I think 1113 01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:07,720 Speaker 1: actually was mostly Kalin, but they were kind of saying 1114 01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:09,840 Speaker 1: Hannah g has just always lived off of her looks 1115 01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:13,120 Speaker 1: because her depth isn't there. I don't love when people 1116 01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:15,640 Speaker 1: say that. That's not a great thing to say about anybody. 1117 01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:17,560 Speaker 1: And I thought on this day we actually got to 1118 01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:20,400 Speaker 1: see a little bit more of what you know, kind 1119 01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:22,360 Speaker 1: of depth Handa G has, and I think it's quite 1120 01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:25,960 Speaker 1: a bit. Do you think that really talking about her 1121 01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:29,200 Speaker 1: parents divorce gives her depth? Well, this is what I think, 1122 01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:34,400 Speaker 1: and I took to your comment. I think under those circumstances, 1123 01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:37,160 Speaker 1: for her it did feel like maybe to like you 1124 01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:38,800 Speaker 1: and I, that doesn't seem like a lot of depth, 1125 01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:41,400 Speaker 1: But I think for her she seemed to. It seemed 1126 01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:44,480 Speaker 1: to be a really emotional like experience that she did 1127 01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:47,800 Speaker 1: doesn't talk about a lot like you know, she just 1128 01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:52,760 Speaker 1: it did seem like this real kind of traumatic experience 1129 01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:55,920 Speaker 1: for her that she opened up and shared that seemed 1130 01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:58,600 Speaker 1: authentic to me. I felt it, you know, whether it 1131 01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:01,840 Speaker 1: was super you know, I think there's certain people who 1132 01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:03,400 Speaker 1: can talk about the stuff all day, all night, but 1133 01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:05,120 Speaker 1: I think for her, you could tell it was something 1134 01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:07,160 Speaker 1: that was hard to talk about, and by doing so, 1135 01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:10,000 Speaker 1: I think that it helped them connect on a deeper level. 1136 01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:14,080 Speaker 1: And I think she does have um that sexual energy 1137 01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:17,280 Speaker 1: about her. But I think that, like you were saying, actually, 1138 01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:19,080 Speaker 1: I think a lot of stuff gets cut out, and 1139 01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:21,200 Speaker 1: Colton doesn't strike me as the type of person who's 1140 01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:23,600 Speaker 1: like just wants to sit and make out and not 1141 01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:27,160 Speaker 1: have a conversation. I mean, we know Colton better than Hannah, 1142 01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:29,040 Speaker 1: and I don't think the Coltons just sitting there going like, yeah, 1143 01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:31,120 Speaker 1: let's head to the shower now, now let's go have 1144 01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:34,040 Speaker 1: a mud bath now, you know, Like, I'm sure there 1145 01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:36,880 Speaker 1: was really great conversation that happens to that we didn't 1146 01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:44,120 Speaker 1: see that. He doesn't strike me as that type of guy. Um, 1147 01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:49,200 Speaker 1: so I do think it's yeah, right, So that was 1148 01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:52,000 Speaker 1: probably the most sexual things we've ever seen from the show. 1149 01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:56,840 Speaker 1: I think so too, Man, I was turned on. I 1150 01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:58,720 Speaker 1: think you're right. I think you're right. And now that 1151 01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:03,000 Speaker 1: you bring it up way she did describe her dad 1152 01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:07,120 Speaker 1: and mowing the lawn and all that very visually was 1153 01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:10,280 Speaker 1: more of like the storytelling that I think he probably 1154 01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:13,840 Speaker 1: doesn't usually do. Yeah, I guess what we were trying 1155 01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:16,000 Speaker 1: I guess, And what I was trying to say is, 1156 01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:19,919 Speaker 1: I think it's easy to assume that, you know, under 1157 01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:22,960 Speaker 1: those circumstances, you've got all these girls together, that you're 1158 01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:25,960 Speaker 1: kind of feeling jealousy and competitive, it's hard to open 1159 01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:28,400 Speaker 1: up sometimes, and so we just assume that there are 1160 01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:32,680 Speaker 1: these like pretty little, you know, like shiny things, when 1161 01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:35,360 Speaker 1: the truth is that there's probably a lot more depth 1162 01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:38,840 Speaker 1: um that they have to them that Ay, we're not 1163 01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:41,440 Speaker 1: seeing because maybe it's been edited out and and b 1164 01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:44,080 Speaker 1: we're not giving enough credit to when they finally do 1165 01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:48,840 Speaker 1: feel like they can be vulnerable enough to have the conversation. 1166 01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:50,960 Speaker 1: And there's a lot going on in this episode was 1167 01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:52,840 Speaker 1: a lot. I mean, we got to the hand of 1168 01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:57,480 Speaker 1: Gee one on one. Obviously, we we sat through a 1169 01:02:57,520 --> 01:02:59,480 Speaker 1: one on one Kurpa that I just I don't know, 1170 01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:04,120 Speaker 1: I just don't see the chemistry. I don't chemistry. List 1171 01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:07,680 Speaker 1: their body language was so off. Yeah, I didn't think 1172 01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:09,920 Speaker 1: she was going to make it around very much longer. 1173 01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:13,240 Speaker 1: Um And actually I want to close with all of 1174 01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:17,040 Speaker 1: us kind of talking about the Demi situation. So Colton 1175 01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:19,640 Speaker 1: gets back to his room. We have Demi, who has 1176 01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:23,560 Speaker 1: grown on me tremendously throughout the season. The first couple episodes, 1177 01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:25,960 Speaker 1: I was like, what are we getting into here? But 1178 01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:29,880 Speaker 1: as the season has continued, Demmi is just this this 1179 01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:33,400 Speaker 1: person I've been rooting for and like in the most 1180 01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:35,960 Speaker 1: genuine of ways. And I'm really sad to see her 1181 01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:38,440 Speaker 1: go home, even though I think her wanting to go 1182 01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:43,400 Speaker 1: see Colton to take his virginity as a terrible, terrible idea. 1183 01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:46,760 Speaker 1: I don't think that was what. That sounded so edited 1184 01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:48,840 Speaker 1: to me. That was that didn't not I don't think 1185 01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:52,280 Speaker 1: that was her intention. But I might agree with you, Michelle, 1186 01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:54,680 Speaker 1: I think that'finitingly to would have said earlier in the sea. Yeah, 1187 01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:58,160 Speaker 1: I don't think that was what. I don't know who 1188 01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:00,240 Speaker 1: knows what Demi though. That's the thing about Demi is 1189 01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:05,080 Speaker 1: you're like, yeah, bro, whatever, Yeah, I think they're not. 1190 01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:08,440 Speaker 1: She she walks into the Colton situation, and I'll be honest, 1191 01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:11,280 Speaker 1: I was really sad to see Demi go home. I 1192 01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:14,080 Speaker 1: want to hear the two of you talk about this 1193 01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:18,680 Speaker 1: because Demi has became one of my favorite characters. Uh. 1194 01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:21,200 Speaker 1: And actually you've been supportive and a fan of Demi 1195 01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:23,400 Speaker 1: since the beginning. I haven't, but I know that you have. 1196 01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:26,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. No, then, I haven't been like super like. 1197 01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:29,320 Speaker 1: I haven't. I've been pretty neutral about her. Some people 1198 01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:31,680 Speaker 1: love her before. I just got on my sporting today 1199 01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:34,640 Speaker 1: this girl was like, oh my god, I love Demi 1200 01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:38,120 Speaker 1: and I'm like, really like I liked her. I don't. 1201 01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:41,480 Speaker 1: I don't dislike hers, but I don't feel like this 1202 01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:44,040 Speaker 1: past that so many people are showing on social media. 1203 01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:47,200 Speaker 1: I think people are liking that she keeps it real. Um. 1204 01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:49,400 Speaker 1: I think that this week was probably her time to go. 1205 01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:52,960 Speaker 1: I think she would have gone home this week whether 1206 01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:55,000 Speaker 1: or not she said I love you. But I do 1207 01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:58,720 Speaker 1: love the way that he sent her home privately instead of, 1208 01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:01,720 Speaker 1: you know, at the road ceremony. After she said that, 1209 01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:05,440 Speaker 1: it was like it kind of was heart wrenching to 1210 01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:08,919 Speaker 1: watch because you could tell that she went there with 1211 01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:13,040 Speaker 1: this like this grand idea of something that was going 1212 01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:15,760 Speaker 1: to go a totally different way, and it was almost 1213 01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:20,560 Speaker 1: it was kind of abrupt how he um kind of 1214 01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:22,720 Speaker 1: just didn't really beat around the bush and it was 1215 01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:25,400 Speaker 1: just like, oh, if you feel this way, then like 1216 01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:27,800 Speaker 1: it's time to go. And he's I mean he was. 1217 01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:30,080 Speaker 1: He said it in a sweet way, but um, to 1218 01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:32,000 Speaker 1: see her face, I mean, I think it was just 1219 01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:34,400 Speaker 1: I do not think she was expecting that, And it 1220 01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:38,640 Speaker 1: was sad to see her kind of like put herself 1221 01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:40,680 Speaker 1: out there and kind of get kind of gets shot down. 1222 01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:43,680 Speaker 1: You know, I do like DEMI I do like her. 1223 01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:47,880 Speaker 1: Then how do you feel about people saying that Colton 1224 01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:51,360 Speaker 1: is really following in your footsteps and he's the best 1225 01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:55,480 Speaker 1: battler since you and he handled himself was as much great? 1226 01:05:55,880 --> 01:06:00,400 Speaker 1: Is it because you were his mentor? I would love 1227 01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:03,400 Speaker 1: to take credit, you know, I mean, I'm getting old here. 1228 01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:05,480 Speaker 1: It's time for me to start taking credit for things 1229 01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:07,960 Speaker 1: I shouldn't be taking credit for. But no, I cannot 1230 01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:10,680 Speaker 1: take credit for Colton's you know, he's He's done things 1231 01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:13,880 Speaker 1: a lot differently than I have did. Um. But I 1232 01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:16,680 Speaker 1: think the one thing you see in common is I 1233 01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:22,080 Speaker 1: think Colton really cared and hated asking women to leave. 1234 01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:25,760 Speaker 1: I think sometimes you get bachelor's and bachelorrettes who and 1235 01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:28,720 Speaker 1: for whatever reason, it doesn't affect them when they have 1236 01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:31,160 Speaker 1: to say goodbye to somebody. I think we see it 1237 01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:33,840 Speaker 1: in Colton's eyes, like it hurts him. He doesn't like it. 1238 01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:36,480 Speaker 1: It's not fun for him. It's it's tearing him up inside. 1239 01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:38,920 Speaker 1: And for me, it mean, it made me physically sick, 1240 01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:42,000 Speaker 1: like I lost weight because I was so stressed about this, 1241 01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:46,240 Speaker 1: and I honestly I think that helped me, uh take 1242 01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:48,920 Speaker 1: it more serious? What did you say? I had a 1243 01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:56,880 Speaker 1: paras but every time, um, so, you know, I'm happy 1244 01:06:56,920 --> 01:06:59,640 Speaker 1: for Colton. I think that we're going to see how 1245 01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:01,959 Speaker 1: this thing plays. I I do think he'll go down 1246 01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:05,800 Speaker 1: as one of the most genuine Bachelor's in history. We 1247 01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:07,680 Speaker 1: were just talking about the beginning of the podcast. Actually 1248 01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:10,800 Speaker 1: is kind of how ironic it is that his season 1249 01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:14,840 Speaker 1: started with a very popular hashtag not my Bachelor, and 1250 01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:18,840 Speaker 1: it seems to have switched right. It's so interesting. Yeah, yeah, totally. 1251 01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:22,000 Speaker 1: I want to let aybody know to look for Jared 1252 01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:26,640 Speaker 1: Nashley on Good Morning America Tuesday, which is February twelve, 1253 01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:29,640 Speaker 1: two nineteen, for a very special announcement one that as 1254 01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:32,000 Speaker 1: a friend, I'm very proud of them for um so 1255 01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:34,440 Speaker 1: check them out, listen in, and we'll talk about it 1256 01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:39,360 Speaker 1: on the podcast next week. Ashley, thanks for joining us. 1257 01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:41,840 Speaker 1: Thank you, And Michelle, thanks for sitting in my seat 1258 01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:46,040 Speaker 1: because there are a few people that I love feeling 1259 01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:49,200 Speaker 1: my there, like you, because I feel like you're like 1260 01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:52,240 Speaker 1: the original host. Look around the Bachelor. You're so cute. 1261 01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:55,280 Speaker 1: I'm just keeping your seat nice and warm. I miss you, 1262 01:07:55,720 --> 01:08:00,120 Speaker 1: I miss you. Love how do you bye? As we 1263 01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:04,040 Speaker 1: saw him this week's episode there in Vietnam, and I 1264 01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:06,680 Speaker 1: love this, Michelle. I love this about the episode that 1265 01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:09,680 Speaker 1: while they're in Vietnam they bring in some of the 1266 01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:14,680 Speaker 1: Bachelor crew from Vietnam. One thing before h we actually 1267 01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:16,639 Speaker 1: talked to some of the crew from Vietnam. I want 1268 01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:19,200 Speaker 1: to mention, is you know and this year's Winter Games. 1269 01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:23,120 Speaker 1: The whole concept of Winter Games was to bring people 1270 01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:25,519 Speaker 1: from all of the world into one place, highlighting that 1271 01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:28,360 Speaker 1: The Bachelor is not just a US thing, it's an 1272 01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:32,080 Speaker 1: international event. Like the Bachelor has spread across the globe. 1273 01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:36,000 Speaker 1: It's taking over the world in a sense. And today 1274 01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:39,840 Speaker 1: we have some very special guests from Bachelor Vietnam out 1275 01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:42,240 Speaker 1: there to talk to us on almost from this podcast. Heybody, 1276 01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:46,479 Speaker 1: how's it going? How this is so exciting to have 1277 01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:50,479 Speaker 1: you guys here. It's like all these worlds colliding. Really 1278 01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:52,680 Speaker 1: really happy to be here. If you guys don't mind 1279 01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:54,959 Speaker 1: real quickly to get us started, do you mind introducing 1280 01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:59,400 Speaker 1: yourselves and what your role is on the show. I'm 1281 01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:03,759 Speaker 1: one of the story producers. I actually got this gig 1282 01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:06,680 Speaker 1: by being such a fan of the American show. So 1283 01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:10,439 Speaker 1: I got this gig from knowing the format so well, 1284 01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:13,439 Speaker 1: so I was kind of like a default back for Bible. 1285 01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:16,679 Speaker 1: And actually I started watching the show with Ben season 1286 01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:20,000 Speaker 1: so I could thank you Ben for getting me this gig. 1287 01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:24,280 Speaker 1: That's amazing. That actually makes it really happy. So how 1288 01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:28,200 Speaker 1: many seasons have you guys filmed? This is our first season? Wow, 1289 01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:31,200 Speaker 1: this is so exciting. So you guys have your own 1290 01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:36,400 Speaker 1: Chris Harrison, right, yeah, that's our hows quite done? Does 1291 01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:39,880 Speaker 1: he say things like this is your final rose? Yeah, 1292 01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:43,599 Speaker 1: he definitely like that. Yeah he's got he's got those 1293 01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:47,760 Speaker 1: things as well, right, yeah, and this I'm done executive 1294 01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:52,320 Speaker 1: producer and Chilrennie Yeah, all right? How you knowing everybody? 1295 01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:55,600 Speaker 1: You know? Ben I was a big like Onto. I 1296 01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:58,960 Speaker 1: became a really really big fan of the show during 1297 01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:03,160 Speaker 1: your season because I was running a company called Marley 1298 01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:08,360 Speaker 1: Coffee out of Denver, and all my employees were such 1299 01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:12,880 Speaker 1: huge fans of yours, um that I guess pushed me 1300 01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:15,760 Speaker 1: to move back to Vietnam and wanted to produce our 1301 01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:21,040 Speaker 1: version of The Bachelor as well Marley Coffee with one 1302 01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:23,560 Speaker 1: of the Marley brothers. I have the T shirt downstairs. 1303 01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:25,320 Speaker 1: You're one of the very first people to tell me 1304 01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:28,759 Speaker 1: to start like. Your company was right next to Generous 1305 01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:33,280 Speaker 1: coffee booth at our very first ever. I remember my 1306 01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:35,800 Speaker 1: employees had taken pictures with you. They came back to 1307 01:10:35,880 --> 01:10:41,280 Speaker 1: the office as giddy as humanly possible. This is incredible, Ben, 1308 01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:48,360 Speaker 1: I kind of think so responsible for the responsible for 1309 01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:50,400 Speaker 1: The Bachelor of Vietnam as anybody else. I think we 1310 01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:55,640 Speaker 1: should put your name in the credit somewhere. Ben, I 1311 01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:57,920 Speaker 1: don't know. I'm glad this. I'm glad this podcast started 1312 01:10:57,920 --> 01:10:59,519 Speaker 1: out this way. Today. I was was coming and I 1313 01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:02,160 Speaker 1: was excited Michelle as a guest co host, I was 1314 01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:04,519 Speaker 1: excited to talk to you all, and honestly, my joy 1315 01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:09,040 Speaker 1: level has just increased and I feel very very important 1316 01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:11,680 Speaker 1: right now, and I appreciate That's a good feeling to 1317 01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:15,800 Speaker 1: feel feel appreciated. Um, you know, we've gotten to watch 1318 01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:20,520 Speaker 1: a little bit about Vietnam. Vietnam is an absolute beautiful place. Um. 1319 01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:22,400 Speaker 1: Can you run Michelle and I and the rest of 1320 01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:26,839 Speaker 1: the listeners through any differences maybe that the Bachelor Vietnam 1321 01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:32,880 Speaker 1: has compared to Bachelor USA. Yeah, I'll take this question 1322 01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:35,439 Speaker 1: real quickly. The format is the same. You know, we 1323 01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:38,120 Speaker 1: we all get the format from Mike Life, and you 1324 01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:42,040 Speaker 1: know it starts off with in our situation, twenty four 1325 01:11:42,280 --> 01:11:46,320 Speaker 1: eligible ladies and one bachelor, and the season, our season 1326 01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:50,360 Speaker 1: goes through fourteen episodes, the first episode being that of 1327 01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:53,479 Speaker 1: the Limousine team where everybody's introduced in the final episode 1328 01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:55,920 Speaker 1: is the Final Rows, then the after the Rows and 1329 01:11:56,439 --> 01:11:59,360 Speaker 1: the women tell on, and the after the Roads. So 1330 01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:02,760 Speaker 1: it struck retually very very similar. I would say the 1331 01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:08,240 Speaker 1: biggest difference probably is in the level of uh salaciousness, 1332 01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:12,880 Speaker 1: if you will, between the two countries. Um, Whereas you know, 1333 01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:16,280 Speaker 1: Vietnam is still quite a conservative country just because of 1334 01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:20,000 Speaker 1: the culture out there. We didn't see kissing on air, 1335 01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:23,559 Speaker 1: even though it happened before then until the final episode 1336 01:12:23,560 --> 01:12:28,840 Speaker 1: when he uh more or less proposes to the winner. Yes, 1337 01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:33,519 Speaker 1: a whole different show. Yeah, I think the whole season. 1338 01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:37,160 Speaker 1: Maybe he kissed three girls, which is an average one 1339 01:12:37,240 --> 01:12:41,200 Speaker 1: single cocktail party in the American bachant, And I think 1340 01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:43,680 Speaker 1: other things that are different about the show and not 1341 01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:45,680 Speaker 1: in the structure, but kind of like what happened in 1342 01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:48,479 Speaker 1: our first season is that this show was really not 1343 01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:51,240 Speaker 1: just about women trying to lie for a guy. It's 1344 01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:55,200 Speaker 1: really the batteck showing that he's worthy of the women's 1345 01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:59,200 Speaker 1: attention and time uniquely on uniquely on our first episode, 1346 01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:04,000 Speaker 1: in the first blow ceremony, actually three women declined his rows. 1347 01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:07,360 Speaker 1: One woman he was able to convince to come back 1348 01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:10,160 Speaker 1: that he had a major connection with. But yeah, these 1349 01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:14,320 Speaker 1: women are like very strong, They're like very serious about 1350 01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:16,479 Speaker 1: their time and being here for love and whether it's 1351 01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:20,960 Speaker 1: the right fit for them. So it gave an unique flavor. Yeah, 1352 01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:25,040 Speaker 1: he had to really work very hard every single episode. 1353 01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:28,080 Speaker 1: And just to tell you, as the producer of the show, 1354 01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:31,160 Speaker 1: we were freaking out every single night that the women 1355 01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:33,240 Speaker 1: would leave him, not that he would be able to 1356 01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:35,800 Speaker 1: charm the women. But he was, and he was great. 1357 01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:37,760 Speaker 1: Our Bachelor was great. He charmed the heck out of 1358 01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:40,480 Speaker 1: the women. A lot of them fell in love with him. 1359 01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:45,160 Speaker 1: But it definitely the power dynamics, like on two was indicating, UH, 1360 01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:48,519 Speaker 1: is definitely that the power exists within the women and 1361 01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:51,320 Speaker 1: that he had to be you know, extra extra charming 1362 01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:54,760 Speaker 1: in each episode. Is that more of a like a 1363 01:13:54,800 --> 01:13:58,120 Speaker 1: production or is that a cultural thing that you know 1364 01:13:58,160 --> 01:14:00,080 Speaker 1: the women feel like, Yeah, he has to impress me 1365 01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:02,599 Speaker 1: also because for years I felt like the bachelor bachelor 1366 01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:05,920 Speaker 1: was sought after and that nobody was really ever leaving 1367 01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:10,040 Speaker 1: on their own accord. Yeah, definitely that I think you 1368 01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:12,280 Speaker 1: hit it right in the head. It's a cultural thing 1369 01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:16,080 Speaker 1: in Vietnam where women actually hold a lot more power. 1370 01:14:16,479 --> 01:14:20,840 Speaker 1: Um in this country, they're they're seen as the backbone 1371 01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:23,679 Speaker 1: of society and that they have are on equal footing. 1372 01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:26,240 Speaker 1: And so for a show like this, when we first 1373 01:14:26,240 --> 01:14:28,519 Speaker 1: try to get it off the you know, on the air, 1374 01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:32,160 Speaker 1: we got a lot of pushback from the UH from 1375 01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:35,320 Speaker 1: both the sensors as well as the TV station about 1376 01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:38,120 Speaker 1: is this a misogynistic type show because that's not really 1377 01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:40,840 Speaker 1: the culture of Vietnam. But we explained to them is that, 1378 01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:44,439 Speaker 1: you know, it's ostensibly you know, a fight for love 1379 01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:48,200 Speaker 1: and you know, if you convey it well enough, then 1380 01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:51,719 Speaker 1: it's showed in a way where you know, all parties 1381 01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:54,880 Speaker 1: are truly seeking out you know, love on a show 1382 01:14:55,320 --> 01:14:57,360 Speaker 1: and uh And in the end for our show, it 1383 01:14:57,439 --> 01:14:59,360 Speaker 1: balanced out in the way that he had to try 1384 01:14:59,360 --> 01:15:03,040 Speaker 1: out just as hard as the girls did. And some 1385 01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:06,120 Speaker 1: of our contestants even mentioned that too. On our Women 1386 01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:09,080 Speaker 1: Tell All, they answered, what do you think of critiques 1387 01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:12,680 Speaker 1: that are you devaluing yourself by trying to compete for 1388 01:15:12,720 --> 01:15:16,240 Speaker 1: a man? And one of our contestants and said, very eloquently, 1389 01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:19,479 Speaker 1: is like, I think a value woman is. A woman's 1390 01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:21,639 Speaker 1: value is in knowing what she wants and then being 1391 01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:24,080 Speaker 1: able to go after this. If you know your to 1392 01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:26,720 Speaker 1: value as women, no one can ever tell you your 1393 01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:29,439 Speaker 1: value or devalue you. So that's why the women on 1394 01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:33,519 Speaker 1: our show phone very empowered or felt right on their 1395 01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:36,280 Speaker 1: own journey to be there. That's so beautiful. Is there 1396 01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:39,160 Speaker 1: a way for us to watch your season? There are 1397 01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:43,360 Speaker 1: clips on so on our YouTube channel and on our 1398 01:15:43,400 --> 01:15:48,080 Speaker 1: Facebook page. Um, whole episodes are not available, but we 1399 01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:52,240 Speaker 1: have best of moments. I'm going to check those out. Yeah. 1400 01:15:52,280 --> 01:15:54,479 Speaker 1: I think this is so interesting and it really is 1401 01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:57,479 Speaker 1: is terrific to kind of connect everybody from all the world. 1402 01:15:57,479 --> 01:15:59,280 Speaker 1: That's what I loved about Winner Games, and I thought 1403 01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:01,200 Speaker 1: the concept win a Games was terrific and that's why 1404 01:16:01,240 --> 01:16:04,080 Speaker 1: I did it. Uh. You know, your team in Vietnam 1405 01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:07,320 Speaker 1: has now produced a Bachelor. It's aired. How did it 1406 01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:09,799 Speaker 1: go over? How is the reaction? Is it as big 1407 01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:14,839 Speaker 1: in Vietnam as it is in the US? Oh? Great question. 1408 01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:18,559 Speaker 1: I mean I think the season one, uh, it went 1409 01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:22,160 Speaker 1: over really well because of the curiosity factor, especially with 1410 01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:26,679 Speaker 1: people who were watching the clips online. UM, on TV. 1411 01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:29,360 Speaker 1: It was a highly rated show. UM, probably not like 1412 01:16:29,479 --> 01:16:32,280 Speaker 1: number one show like it is in America, but uh, 1413 01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:35,439 Speaker 1: you know, we had some great, great moments that just 1414 01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:39,000 Speaker 1: made the whole country talk about the show. UM. And 1415 01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:41,520 Speaker 1: I think, you know, one of the big moments, obviously, 1416 01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:45,120 Speaker 1: is that we had the moment where two women uh 1417 01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:48,720 Speaker 1: declared their love for each other during the rose ceremony, 1418 01:16:49,080 --> 01:16:53,160 Speaker 1: and that was hugely talked about, you know in Vietnam, 1419 01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:56,400 Speaker 1: but even more so on a global scale. And then 1420 01:16:56,439 --> 01:16:59,719 Speaker 1: at the end there was a scandal with the winner 1421 01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:03,519 Speaker 1: not disclosing the fact that uh she was a single 1422 01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:06,760 Speaker 1: mom um, which you know, really upset a lot of 1423 01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:08,439 Speaker 1: the girls on the show, as well as a lot 1424 01:17:08,479 --> 01:17:11,360 Speaker 1: of the fans. So, you know, despite the ups and down, 1425 01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:14,360 Speaker 1: I thought that the season went exceptionally well, and and 1426 01:17:14,360 --> 01:17:18,320 Speaker 1: and and people really, you know, resonated with the fact that, 1427 01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:20,439 Speaker 1: you know, a lot of these things are just absolutely 1428 01:17:20,479 --> 01:17:23,840 Speaker 1: real moments, uh, in these people's lives. So is there 1429 01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:25,960 Speaker 1: going to be a Bachelor? You know? I think we're 1430 01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:28,960 Speaker 1: going to do two more seasons of The Bachelor so 1431 01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:33,280 Speaker 1: that the stands out here will really understand the format 1432 01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:36,240 Speaker 1: of the show before we move on to the Bachelorette. 1433 01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:42,160 Speaker 1: How crazy is this? Michelle, The Bachelor's internationally known. I'm 1434 01:17:42,160 --> 01:17:45,880 Speaker 1: telling you all the Vietnam had a Bachelor to watch 1435 01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:48,479 Speaker 1: this year. Can you imagine these polarizing storylines? I mean 1436 01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:51,360 Speaker 1: I read about the two women leaving that they found 1437 01:17:51,439 --> 01:17:53,880 Speaker 1: love for each other on the show here in the US, 1438 01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:57,720 Speaker 1: it was a global headline and and all in your 1439 01:17:57,800 --> 01:18:00,759 Speaker 1: first season of filming a show. This is a wild part. 1440 01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:03,000 Speaker 1: And for everybody out there listening, this is the weirdest 1441 01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:06,080 Speaker 1: wild part about The Bachelor. Remain right. I participated in 1442 01:18:06,160 --> 01:18:09,760 Speaker 1: Michelle participated in it. We have two producers that that 1443 01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:13,360 Speaker 1: work this show on the line as well. Somehow everybody 1444 01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:16,280 Speaker 1: always asked me, how scripted is it? How how format 1445 01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:17,760 Speaker 1: it is? I'm like, it's a format, right, there is 1446 01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:22,160 Speaker 1: a format. It's an environment. But every year, time, over time, 1447 01:18:22,439 --> 01:18:25,240 Speaker 1: something new happens. Some you get a new personality, you 1448 01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:26,960 Speaker 1: get a new person in there, you get a new 1449 01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:30,960 Speaker 1: Bachelor Bachelor, and you get storylines that you've never seen before. 1450 01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:35,160 Speaker 1: Bachelor Vietnam. You did not fall short of putting together 1451 01:18:35,240 --> 01:18:37,320 Speaker 1: a great show. And you also, I want to tell 1452 01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:40,240 Speaker 1: you this, you did a great job at hosting Colton 1453 01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:44,320 Speaker 1: show or episode this year. Thank you so much for 1454 01:18:44,360 --> 01:18:49,120 Speaker 1: coming on Almost Famous podcast. Thank you so much. Thanks 1455 01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:56,679 Speaker 1: for man what was that? I mean? Thank you? Thank 1456 01:18:56,720 --> 01:19:00,240 Speaker 1: you you. People want to find out more about show, 1457 01:19:00,439 --> 01:19:02,519 Speaker 1: feel feed to check us out, look up the Back 1458 01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:06,639 Speaker 1: to Vietnam on a YouTube or Facebook or Instagram. Perfect. 1459 01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:11,559 Speaker 1: Thank you? It's uh, isn't it wild? Michelle? How is 1460 01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:14,360 Speaker 1: it all? Because of for this? I would like to 1461 01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:17,800 Speaker 1: take a beat and just recap that, like, how does 1462 01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:21,160 Speaker 1: that feel for you? It's it's actually kind of one 1463 01:19:21,200 --> 01:19:24,320 Speaker 1: of them, maybe weirdest things that's ever happened on this podcast, 1464 01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:28,960 Speaker 1: to be responsible for people finding love in Vietnam and 1465 01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:31,439 Speaker 1: I never even have noted. I would have never known 1466 01:19:31,479 --> 01:19:37,840 Speaker 1: it until this interview. Kind of crazy. I mean, it's 1467 01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:42,080 Speaker 1: it's honestly, it's hilarious. But in all seriousness, it's once 1468 01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:43,960 Speaker 1: again a reason why when people ask me, are you 1469 01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:46,519 Speaker 1: glad you did the show or uh, you know, do 1470 01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:48,479 Speaker 1: you regret doing this show? And it's like, no, because 1471 01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:50,640 Speaker 1: my life is is awesome. I get to do a 1472 01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:53,000 Speaker 1: lot of cool things now and yeah, you know, the 1473 01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:54,920 Speaker 1: love parton didn't work out for me, but so many 1474 01:19:54,920 --> 01:19:57,320 Speaker 1: other things did. And then I get to hear stories 1475 01:19:57,360 --> 01:20:01,160 Speaker 1: like this, and I'm like, people in Vietnam, maybe no, 1476 01:20:01,439 --> 01:20:03,400 Speaker 1: a little bit of who I am, Like, that's kind 1477 01:20:03,400 --> 01:20:07,719 Speaker 1: of cool, really cool. Then it's really cool. I think 1478 01:20:08,200 --> 01:20:10,240 Speaker 1: that was cool. That's exciting. I'm gonna have to watch 1479 01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:11,920 Speaker 1: that clip. I didn't I didn't know that that was 1480 01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:15,360 Speaker 1: this viral clip. So so two girls fell in love 1481 01:20:15,400 --> 01:20:17,960 Speaker 1: with each other on the show. Yeah, it was a 1482 01:20:17,960 --> 01:20:21,280 Speaker 1: global headline. Can you imagine in the first season of 1483 01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:25,640 Speaker 1: Bachelor Vietnam something like this happens and and obviously it became, uh, 1484 01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:28,280 Speaker 1: like I said, became global. People were talking about it 1485 01:20:28,280 --> 01:20:31,880 Speaker 1: was on all the national news networks. Um. But once again, 1486 01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:34,120 Speaker 1: it's it's one of those stories that the Bachelor, you know, 1487 01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:36,760 Speaker 1: creates and finds love no matter what. I don't know, 1488 01:20:37,240 --> 01:20:40,040 Speaker 1: uh if the two women are together still or not. 1489 01:20:41,120 --> 01:20:43,439 Speaker 1: But how cool is it that, at least for a 1490 01:20:43,439 --> 01:20:49,240 Speaker 1: short time they found love interest from the Bachelor. How crazy? 1491 01:20:50,120 --> 01:20:54,400 Speaker 1: Another great interview. Thanks Bachelor Vietnam for coming on. We 1492 01:20:54,439 --> 01:20:57,320 Speaker 1: can't forget that. Where was a row ceremony? This week 1493 01:20:58,080 --> 01:21:00,400 Speaker 1: Katie was asked to go home. We see a lot 1494 01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:05,240 Speaker 1: of Katie this have a little big bummer, um, but 1495 01:21:05,320 --> 01:21:07,000 Speaker 1: she is no longer there. You know what we've gotten 1496 01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:11,360 Speaker 1: to uh money is from here on out, every woman 1497 01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:13,400 Speaker 1: on the show is somebody that we pretty much know 1498 01:21:14,080 --> 01:21:16,840 Speaker 1: fairly intimately. Like we get there, they've been on a 1499 01:21:16,880 --> 01:21:19,840 Speaker 1: one on one, we've got another past. Uh, they have 1500 01:21:19,880 --> 01:21:22,040 Speaker 1: a relationship with Colton. So this is kind of the 1501 01:21:22,479 --> 01:21:24,400 Speaker 1: part of the show that gets real. So from here 1502 01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:26,439 Speaker 1: on that, let's call it the season of the show 1503 01:21:26,720 --> 01:21:32,479 Speaker 1: that gets real. Real. Michelle, you are always real, You've 1504 01:21:32,520 --> 01:21:35,840 Speaker 1: never not been real. You're You've been awesome today. But 1505 01:21:35,880 --> 01:21:38,000 Speaker 1: before we send you out of here, because I want 1506 01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:39,559 Speaker 1: to draw this out, I want you to sit in 1507 01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:43,160 Speaker 1: this seat for as long as possible. 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Michelle, you're beautiful. 1517 01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:21,280 Speaker 1: Thanks for coming on. We appreciate you. Thanks for filling 1518 01:22:21,320 --> 01:22:25,800 Speaker 1: in for Ashley. You're the best. And uh, let's just 1519 01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:27,760 Speaker 1: keep keep going and if you ever want to stop 1520 01:22:27,760 --> 01:22:31,200 Speaker 1: by again, I know our listeners would love to have you. 1521 01:22:31,320 --> 01:22:33,200 Speaker 1: This has been so fun. What a fun job you 1522 01:22:33,200 --> 01:22:36,760 Speaker 1: guys have. This is this is the life man, that's 1523 01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:44,360 Speaker 1: the life behind Then hey, uh Michelle, Uh important update. 1524 01:22:44,479 --> 01:22:47,360 Speaker 1: It just came across my computer. I know that we've 1525 01:22:47,400 --> 01:22:48,800 Speaker 1: got to get you out of here. And I know 1526 01:22:48,920 --> 01:22:50,680 Speaker 1: this podcast has been along with because it's a good one. 1527 01:22:50,880 --> 01:22:53,439 Speaker 1: But we have a big news break in Bachelor Nation. 1528 01:22:53,520 --> 01:22:58,720 Speaker 1: This week, and our our correspondent Mark is into with 1529 01:22:58,800 --> 01:23:02,439 Speaker 1: us right now with a special shill outbreak. Well, people 1530 01:23:02,439 --> 01:23:05,280 Speaker 1: are very concerned about the situation with Cassie and whether 1531 01:23:05,400 --> 01:23:08,240 Speaker 1: or not she's on the Bachelor. She's on a different 1532 01:23:08,240 --> 01:23:10,280 Speaker 1: show at the same time, and people are freaking out 1533 01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:12,160 Speaker 1: about it. And I'm here to set the record straight, Ben, 1534 01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:15,720 Speaker 1: I want to hear it. Well, she's on a show 1535 01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:17,760 Speaker 1: called Young Once. There's another dating show that follows a 1536 01:23:17,800 --> 01:23:20,240 Speaker 1: diverse group of recent graduates from Christian College. We are 1537 01:23:20,240 --> 01:23:24,280 Speaker 1: now navigating dating, marriage debts, and career decisions. Blah blah blah. Well, 1538 01:23:24,439 --> 01:23:28,519 Speaker 1: she did that and then she went back and did 1539 01:23:28,520 --> 01:23:31,240 Speaker 1: some reshoots. But she and the guy that she's dating 1540 01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:32,920 Speaker 1: on the show have come out and said, look, there's 1541 01:23:32,960 --> 01:23:35,200 Speaker 1: nothing going on here. We wish each other the best, 1542 01:23:35,280 --> 01:23:39,000 Speaker 1: but we are not together anymore. So don't worry. That's 1543 01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:41,679 Speaker 1: not her forever person. She's not cheating on him going 1544 01:23:41,720 --> 01:23:44,160 Speaker 1: on the Bachelor. That was done a while ago. She 1545 01:23:44,240 --> 01:23:47,479 Speaker 1: had a clean slate going onto the Bachelor. Mark, I 1546 01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:48,920 Speaker 1: know you've talked to a couple of people on the 1547 01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:52,320 Speaker 1: inside here. Do you think or does anybody think this 1548 01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:56,479 Speaker 1: is going to affect Colton and Cassie's relationship on the show. 1549 01:23:56,960 --> 01:23:59,400 Speaker 1: They do not think that's going to affect them whatsoever, 1550 01:23:59,439 --> 01:24:02,880 Speaker 1: because this was a clean situation. Cassie has no interest 1551 01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:05,759 Speaker 1: in this guy. This guy has no interest in Cassie, 1552 01:24:05,800 --> 01:24:07,720 Speaker 1: although I think there might be a little bitterness on 1553 01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:10,799 Speaker 1: his part, it's not going to affect Colton. Colton understands 1554 01:24:10,840 --> 01:24:14,160 Speaker 1: the situation moving forward. Mark thinks so much great work, 1555 01:24:14,240 --> 01:24:17,559 Speaker 1: my pleasure. It's so glad to clear that up. I 1556 01:24:17,640 --> 01:24:19,960 Speaker 1: know it's been a big deal this week. Hey, everybody 1557 01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:21,840 Speaker 1: out there listening, make sure you email us at Ben 1558 01:24:21,840 --> 01:24:24,360 Speaker 1: and Ashley I heard made dot com. Thank you to 1559 01:24:24,479 --> 01:24:26,439 Speaker 1: everybody that came on the podcast today. It was a 1560 01:24:26,479 --> 01:24:30,200 Speaker 1: packed one with that I've Been Been, I've Been Michelle 1561 01:24:30,720 --> 01:24:34,000 Speaker 1: so fun. Followed the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous 1562 01:24:34,040 --> 01:24:37,960 Speaker 1: podcast on iHeart Radio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.