WEBVTT - Hour 2 - Disappearing Kickoffs, Daniel Jeremiah

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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to The Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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<v Speaker 1>the Dan ats Dan Patrick Show. We'll take you out

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<v Speaker 1>to the combine. What are the Bears going to do?

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<v Speaker 1>What's their GM really saying? Do they like justin fields?

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<v Speaker 1>Do they love justin fields? Or is it all the

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<v Speaker 1>smoke screen? Have that for you coming up?

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<v Speaker 2>Also the NFL, as the NFL likes to do, it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to toy with some things in the off season.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe that the fumble the ball into the end

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<v Speaker 2>zone through the end zone, that's not going to be

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<v Speaker 2>changed this upcoming season. From what I was told, the

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<v Speaker 2>issue was dead and I went dead. Yeah, So if

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<v Speaker 2>you fumble the ball, let's say you're going for a touchdown,

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<v Speaker 2>you put your arm out, ball goes through the end zone.

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<v Speaker 2>See you, tough luck for you. Eight seven seven three.

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<v Speaker 2>DP Show email address is dp at Danpatrick dot com. WHOA,

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<v Speaker 2>I just saw this. Marvin has his own T shirt

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<v Speaker 2>yet another one the first Prince of Dan ayir.

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<v Speaker 3>Man. Thank you. Things can be getting better.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, who is it better than you do? No? No one,

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<v Speaker 2>I know, nobody, nobody. Yeah, I just saw it. It's

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<v Speaker 2>brand new the first Prince of Dan's Air and it's

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<v Speaker 3>I like that with the fresh Prince.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, well from.

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<v Speaker 4>Marvin's big article in Yukon magazine. We're taking from that

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<v Speaker 4>sort of to celebrate Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, big moment. Yeah yeah. Marvin featured prominently in

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<v Speaker 2>the Yukon Huskies magazine.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I wasn't on the cover, but I mean

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<v Speaker 3>I'll take the article.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, already complaining, Yeah, this page. Becker's been in that,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think so. Danny Hurley been in then.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even know who that is.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, you do, you're mister Husky, mister Husky.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's go.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, who's got more? So Todd's Bronco gear or your

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<v Speaker 2>Husky gear. I haven't seen Todd's closet, and I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to, but I would think that we have we

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<v Speaker 2>have some things that have been there for a long,

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<v Speaker 2>long long time. And he's a lot older than you,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm guessing Todd has more Bronco gear than you have.

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<v Speaker 2>You Kon Husky.

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<v Speaker 5>Probably, And there's some stuff from when I was a

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<v Speaker 5>kid that I still have saved and obviously I.

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<v Speaker 3>Can't wear it.

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<v Speaker 2>How come you can't wear it because it was a

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<v Speaker 2>boys medium?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh okay, okay, that nineteenninety six Big East Championship t

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<v Speaker 5>shirt that I have, I just can't wear it anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Stata that I brought to you by Panini America, the

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<v Speaker 2>official trading cards of the Dan Patrick Show. Caitlin Clark

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<v Speaker 2>tries to claim another scoring record. Find out tonight Iowa

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<v Speaker 2>faces Minnesota nine Eastern exclusively on Peacock, which is where

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<v Speaker 2>you can find this program. Lynette Woodard is not getting

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<v Speaker 2>the credit she deserves. I know this isn't a big deal.

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<v Speaker 2>It is to me having met Lynette. She played at Kansas,

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<v Speaker 2>she played for the Globetrotters, and when she was scoring

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<v Speaker 2>and setting the all time record in women's college basketball,

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't known as the NC double A at the time.

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<v Speaker 2>That to me is an oversight and she should be

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<v Speaker 2>recognized because she was a wonderful player. And the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that we're going to celebrate Caitlyn Clark, that's fine. You

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<v Speaker 2>want to celebrate her passing Pete Marrivich, that's fine as well,

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<v Speaker 2>But Caitlyn Clark should be celebrated for what she's done

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<v Speaker 2>with the NC double A. And women's college basketball basketball

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<v Speaker 2>in general. But let's not forget the others here. A

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<v Speaker 2>lot of times what happens is when you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>break a record, we sometimes bring back that person's name

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<v Speaker 2>that you haven't heard in a long time, and then

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<v Speaker 2>you get to celebrate them again. We should be celebrating

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<v Speaker 2>Lynette Woodard and her all time record, that Caitlyn Clark

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<v Speaker 2>is going to pass Pete Marivich. What he did, when

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<v Speaker 2>he did it, how he did it. It's different than

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<v Speaker 2>anybody who ever played the sport and given a three

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<v Speaker 2>point shot and staying four years, he probably would have

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<v Speaker 2>had six thousand career points. He would have averaged over

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<v Speaker 2>fifty a game with a three point shot. He played

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<v Speaker 2>three years, no three point shot. He's the all time

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<v Speaker 2>scoring leader, and Caitlin Clark has less than one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>points to go to surpass Pete Merrivich. All right, Paul,

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<v Speaker 2>question for hour two is going to be watched.

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<v Speaker 4>Heaton O'Connor, well, Dan up there for hour one, We've

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<v Speaker 4>got which quarterback is most likely to be on a

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<v Speaker 4>new team next season? Justin field, Russell, Wilson or Kirk Cousins.

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<v Speaker 4>Right now, Russell's got fifty seven percent.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the vote.

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<v Speaker 4>Justin Fields is thirty three and Kirk Cousins has ten percent, so.

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<v Speaker 2>He's pretty yeah, I think he's going back to Minnesota.

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<v Speaker 4>It feels like the Broncos are the ones who have

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<v Speaker 4>most clearly been like, well, I think we're ready to

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<v Speaker 4>move on right now. Justin Fields, it's very much up

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<v Speaker 4>in the air.

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<v Speaker 2>Feels like it is. Well, here's the GM of the Bears,

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<v Speaker 2>Ryan Poles.

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<v Speaker 6>We're open minded as we walk into the combine. If

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<v Speaker 6>it hits me that there's something you know worth capitalizing

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<v Speaker 6>on or jumping on, that's what we'll do. If something

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<v Speaker 6>doesn't feel right and we need to gather more information,

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<v Speaker 6>then we'll wait. But again, I'm always gonna have in

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<v Speaker 6>my mind and make sure we do right by Justin

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know what that means. You're going to do

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<v Speaker 6>right by Justin Fields.

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<v Speaker 2>If you wanted to do right by him, you would

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<v Speaker 2>keep him and then you would pay him. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>right right. We want to do right by him, or

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<v Speaker 2>at least give you the public perception that we're doing

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<v Speaker 2>right by him, while we hold out hope that somebody

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<v Speaker 2>is going to want to give us a boatload of

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<v Speaker 2>draft picks for Justin Fields. That's really what this comes

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<v Speaker 2>down to.

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<v Speaker 4>Know, we want to do right by him, okay, and

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<v Speaker 4>then by doing right by him, we mean getting rid

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<v Speaker 4>of it by him, maybe less in the sting yet

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>And then Sean Payton, he's not saying we want to

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<v Speaker 2>do right by Russell Wilson. It sounds like he's ready

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<v Speaker 2>to move on from Russell Wilson. And here's what he

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<v Speaker 2>had to say yesterday.

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<v Speaker 7>I saw this humorous meme the other day where there's

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<v Speaker 7>a Bronco fan with a shirt on and there was

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<v Speaker 7>like eight quarterbacks names across through it, you know, and

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<v Speaker 7>he's drinking the quarterback kool aid. And our job is

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<v Speaker 7>to make sure that this next one, you know, doesn't

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<v Speaker 7>have a line through it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, And if you're wondering, it has former Bronco names

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<v Speaker 2>on the back of a jersey and they're all crossed out,

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<v Speaker 2>including Russell Wilson's name being crossed out. So for Sean

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<v Speaker 2>Payton to say, well, you know, the next one we get,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't want that name getting crossed out, that doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>sound like he's going to be keeping Russell Wilson. And

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<v Speaker 2>it feels like by all accounts with these mock drafts,

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<v Speaker 2>if you can trust them at this stage that they

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<v Speaker 2>would be interested in JJ McCarthy from Michigan. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>the NFL is looking at picking up something from the XFL.

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<v Speaker 2>The XFL had a model with their kickoffs that the

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<v Speaker 2>kicker kicking from the thirty yard line, the rest of

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<v Speaker 2>the kickoff team was on the opposing team's thirty five

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<v Speaker 2>yard line, separated by ten yards from the receiving team.

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<v Speaker 2>And let's see, separated from ten members, I should say,

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<v Speaker 2>so they're five yards apart. It's at the thirty five,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're going to be at your thirty and then

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<v Speaker 2>there's going to be a kickoff. So apart from the

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<v Speaker 2>kicker and the returner, none of the other special teamers

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<v Speaker 2>are allowed to move until the ball is fielded. So

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<v Speaker 2>the NFL, right now, you're at the thirty five yard line,

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<v Speaker 2>that's where everybody's lined up, and then you run down

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<v Speaker 2>and try to tackle somebody if there happens to be

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<v Speaker 2>a kickoff, which there wasn't a kickoff return in this

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<v Speaker 2>year's Super Bowl. But if they're going to approve a

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<v Speaker 2>rule chae something close to this model, it will take

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four votes by the NFL owners. Okay, I saw

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<v Speaker 2>it in the XFL. It was interesting, what do you

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<v Speaker 2>do if you want to have an onside kick? You're

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<v Speaker 2>basically saying to the opposition, we're going to have an

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<v Speaker 2>onside kick because now everybody has to come back and

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<v Speaker 2>be on the thirty five yard line. But maybe we

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<v Speaker 2>do get some kickoffs here, but as you know, if

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<v Speaker 2>you want kickoffs, maybe have the kicker at the twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five yard line and then have a kickoff. They don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to have these, you know, build up ahead of

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<v Speaker 2>steam and then have these cataclysmic crashes into each other.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what they're trying to avoid. So this is basically

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<v Speaker 2>you're standing there, he's standing there, and we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>wait until that you know, the kick returner fields it.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we get to go. So you're going to take

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<v Speaker 2>away probably a forty yard sprint down the field to

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<v Speaker 2>run into somebody. Now, those collisions you won't be as

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<v Speaker 2>impactful and devastating, and that's what the NFL is trying

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<v Speaker 2>to rid the league of. But still it's the most

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<v Speaker 2>It used to be the most exciting play in the

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<v Speaker 2>NFL is the kickoff. Now, like I'm shocked if it

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't go out of the end zone. Like, what is

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<v Speaker 2>wrong with you, dude? Yeah, pulling for most of our lifetime.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking at the stats. Kicks returned per game in

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<v Speaker 2>the NFL, and for most of our life until twenty ten,

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<v Speaker 2>four kicks per game were returned by both teams in

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<v Speaker 2>an average NFL game. Over the past twelve years, it's

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<v Speaker 2>gone down to about two kicks per game because of

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<v Speaker 2>rule changes. Last year it was down to one point

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<v Speaker 2>one kicks per game returned combined from both teams, lowest

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<v Speaker 2>by far in NFL history.

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<v Speaker 7>Stand of the Day, Stand of the Day, Statuta Day,

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<v Speaker 7>stant outa day.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the Stand of the Day. Stout of the Day,

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<v Speaker 2>brought to you behind Padenia Mayora, the official trading cards

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<v Speaker 2>of this program. By the way, the NFL Combine. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>talk to Daniel Jeremiah, who's also a draft expert for

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<v Speaker 2>NFL Network, former front office executive. We'll talk to him

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<v Speaker 2>about these quarterbacks who aren't working out and what he

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<v Speaker 2>thinks the Bears are going to do. Also, the forty

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<v Speaker 2>yard dash is really important to a lot of teams,

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<v Speaker 2>does it really? I guess turn out successful NFL players

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<v Speaker 2>because you can run really fast, and you know some

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<v Speaker 2>of the names. You know, Chris Johnson, he obviously did

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<v Speaker 2>had two thousand yard season. Remember John Ross. I remember

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<v Speaker 2>watching him in a game and I was thinking, there

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<v Speaker 2>is nobody who can guard that gun. They can't cover him,

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<v Speaker 2>And he ran the fastest forty yard dash. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it was like four to two two, although I think

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<v Speaker 2>Darryl Green and Joey Galloway and Dion probably would differ

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<v Speaker 2>with those times there because you might have had somebody

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<v Speaker 2>go for to one for one something, But forty yard dash,

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<v Speaker 2>it just means you can run really fast in a

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<v Speaker 2>straight line, and football is not about straight lines. There

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<v Speaker 2>and a lot of these guys, what was it.

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<v Speaker 8>Dree played for the Steelers, Archer Archer out of the

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<v Speaker 8>mac he played.

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<v Speaker 2>At Kent State. That was another guy. I saw him

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<v Speaker 2>and I go, who's going to cover him? In the NFL?

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<v Speaker 2>And then he lasted I think two seasons. It's rare

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<v Speaker 2>when you have that guy who's really really fast and

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<v Speaker 2>really really good. So when you watch the forty yard dash, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>somebody's gonna run fast. I think what's interesting for us

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<v Speaker 2>is when you see a quarterback who runs something you

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<v Speaker 2>know four to six sub four six, and then we

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<v Speaker 2>go okay, or you see a tight end or you

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<v Speaker 2>see an edge rusher. Those you know, that's more interesting

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<v Speaker 2>for me. But they're gonna put him through all the workouts,

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<v Speaker 2>the bench press, a vertical jump, the long long jump,

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<v Speaker 2>the jump there.

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<v Speaker 8>Yes, Pauline, I'm reading an article that in the past

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<v Speaker 8>few years the forty is passe and the ten yards split. Hello, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>you're a tenure You've always been ten.

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<v Speaker 2>Yard split guy, always.

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<v Speaker 8>And the ten yard split is the first ten yards

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<v Speaker 8>meters of the forty yard dash, and guys like Tyreek

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<v Speaker 8>Hill are the all timers because it shows their quickness

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<v Speaker 8>off the ball.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all I care about what you do, even the

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<v Speaker 2>first five yards, because that allows you separation if you're

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<v Speaker 2>running back to get to the hole, if your alignment

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<v Speaker 2>to get to the next level. If you're an edge rusher,

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<v Speaker 2>it's five you know, those first five yards or ten yards,

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<v Speaker 2>that's all I care about. And the reason the forty

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<v Speaker 2>yard dash, even as in existence, that we care about

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<v Speaker 2>it is because of the former coach, the great Paul Brown,

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<v Speaker 2>because he thought that there was going to be the

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<v Speaker 2>forty yards between the punt return team and those who

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<v Speaker 2>were punting forty yards. He wanted to know how fast

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<v Speaker 2>you could run forty yards to get down the field.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's how we came up with the emphasis for

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<v Speaker 2>the forty yard dash. But it doesn't translate to success.

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<v Speaker 2>Quickness translates to success. That ability to get off the ball,

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<v Speaker 2>That to me is what I You watched Tyreek Hill,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, when we did hard knocks during the season,

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<v Speaker 2>and I would watch him. I felt bad for the deep.

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<v Speaker 2>There is no way that you could cover him off

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<v Speaker 2>the ball. No way he was going to beat you

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<v Speaker 2>off the ball every single time. And give me those

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<v Speaker 2>kind of guys instead of the guy who's a track guy.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeampon last year's NFL combine the running backs with the

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<v Speaker 8>top three ten yard splits fastest off the ball, Jamir Gibbs,

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<v Speaker 8>b Jeon Robinson, Devon Chan.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, and they all had significant impact here. All right.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's the new kickoff format. And look, if it

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<v Speaker 2>brings more excitement in and it does help, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>player safety, than great. You know, I do like that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, the NFL they're concerned about players safety, but boy,

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<v Speaker 2>they'd love to add that eighteenth game. It's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we got to give the impression that we

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<v Speaker 2>care about your safety and we're gonna cut down on

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<v Speaker 2>all these massive collisions on a kickoff. But hey, would

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<v Speaker 2>you like to play an eighteenth game? I thought you would,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, And let's get a couple of phone calls

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<v Speaker 2>in here. Moe and Arizona leads us off Hour two.

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<v Speaker 9>Hi Mo, morning, Dan Dennett's still coming off my Super

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<v Speaker 9>Bowl lost hiatus. But I just had to act if

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<v Speaker 9>Marvin said he still has a bunch of stuff from

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<v Speaker 9>when he was a kid. Can you still fit your

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<v Speaker 9>Little League gloves?

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<v Speaker 2>Wow? Wow? Mo with the shot that's a hand sized

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<v Speaker 2>joke with Marvin Aprop.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Mo, I thought we were cool. Yeah, but first

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<v Speaker 5>of all, yes, I can still fit in them. But

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<v Speaker 5>that was hurtful.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you see where they were going to auction off

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<v Speaker 2>Babe Ruth's glove that he used in nineteen fifteen, and

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<v Speaker 2>then they took I think it's the oldest piece of

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<v Speaker 2>Babe Ruth memorabilia. And then I don't know how long

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<v Speaker 2>before the auction that they decided that they now it's autographed.

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<v Speaker 2>It was autographed twice by Babe Ruth. He even says,

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<v Speaker 2>this is my glove and for some reason they took

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<v Speaker 2>it off the market there, but that was just recently.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, he's gonna end up where like Charlie Sheen has it.

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<v Speaker 4>I've never seen that again. I wonder if Charlie Sheen

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<v Speaker 4>has any more of those jerseys. He said he knew

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<v Speaker 4>he had a problem when I think it was his

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<v Speaker 4>coffee table that there was a Ted Williams autograph jersey

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<v Speaker 4>or something.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that right, Pauling?

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<v Speaker 8>He was in his normal T shirt drawer, like you know,

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<v Speaker 8>you get your T shirts and he's gone like white

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<v Speaker 8>teaser blue T shirt and a nineteen forty one road

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<v Speaker 8>Ted Williams jersey was in there. It's worth like an

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<v Speaker 8>eighty grand.

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<v Speaker 2>That's when you know you got a problem.

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<v Speaker 3>But he was.

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<v Speaker 2>He collected a lot of memorabilia back in the day.

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<v Speaker 2>Dan and Toledo, Hi, Dan, what's on your mind?

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<v Speaker 9>Hey?

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<v Speaker 10>Good morning, Dan and Dennetz. How's everybody this morning?

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<v Speaker 2>Great?

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<v Speaker 10>Hey, Dan, I have a kind of an obscure question

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<v Speaker 10>for you, And then I have has any GM front

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<v Speaker 10>office exec for any sport, which I know that you're

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<v Speaker 10>friends with a lot of women. You've got great insight.

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<v Speaker 10>Has anybody reached out to you privately and asked what

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<v Speaker 10>you think that they should do for their team relative

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<v Speaker 10>to a draft or a trade, and that's your question.

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<v Speaker 10>Does the color of highlighter in your hand mean anything?

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<v Speaker 10>Because it keeps changing colors.

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<v Speaker 2>I have this tick that I'm always holding the pen.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's a yellow sharpie, there's a silver one. I've

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<v Speaker 2>had a red one, whatever one is on my desk.

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<v Speaker 2>Then I just end up kind of fiddling with it. Twice,

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<v Speaker 2>it's happened where somebody basketball related asked my thoughts about

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<v Speaker 2>some players and one actually went with what my opinion

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<v Speaker 2>was on this player and one did not. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they're just curious. They had seen me where I'd been

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<v Speaker 2>at a game or two, and just we're curious, and

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<v Speaker 2>probably did this with a variety of people. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>just me, I'm sure, but yeah, I was honored by it,

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<v Speaker 2>but just say what do you see? And then I

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<v Speaker 2>would I gave my opinion. Another guy, well, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to get too deep into the weeds, but yes,

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<v Speaker 2>it's happened a couple of times, and I appreciated it

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<v Speaker 2>and gave my opinion. And whether they acted upon it,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not quite sure. I never followed up either. I

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<v Speaker 2>thought that was weird to say, Hey, what did you

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<v Speaker 2>think of my advice? My insight? You're a talking hairdo

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<v Speaker 2>you know? I didn't take your advice. So we'll take

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<v Speaker 2>a break here and we'll get more phone calls. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>go out to the combine there, we'll check in with

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<v Speaker 2>the Chicago Bears coming up next hour as well. I

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<v Speaker 2>think they already know what they're doing. I think they've

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<v Speaker 2>already made that decision. And it was a year ago

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<v Speaker 2>around this time when they made the trade with Carolina.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's where we're headed again this year, where

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<v Speaker 2>they'll be making a move here and it'll probably the

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<v Speaker 2>seeds were planted at the combine, so Daniel Jeremiah said,

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<v Speaker 2>to join us. Coming up next take a break back

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<v Speaker 2>after this Dan Patrick Show.

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<v Speaker 2>John Ross, Chris Johnson, Dree Arch, Jerome Mathis, Tarique Woolan,

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<v Speaker 2>Marquise Goodwin, Tyrone, Calico, Stanford Route, Jalen Myrick, JJ Nelson,

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<v Speaker 2>Jacoby Ford. What do they have in common? They all

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<v Speaker 2>ran the forty in four point two seconds. Not a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of success out of that group, but we continue

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<v Speaker 2>to spend a lot of time talking about the forty

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<v Speaker 2>yard dash. Daniel Jeremiah, NFL Network Analyst, Chargers Radio color

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<v Speaker 2>analyst and his Moving the Sticks podcast with Bucky Brooks

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<v Speaker 2>and Rhet Lewis, NFL Network providing live coverage from the

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<v Speaker 2>Combine Thursday through Sunday. Why do we play so much

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<v Speaker 2>emphasis still in the forty yard dash?

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<v Speaker 9>Oh?

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 12>First of all, Dan, that was like announcing everyone who

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<v Speaker 12>was not nominated for an oscar there with that list

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<v Speaker 12>of players. But look, it's still to me, it's helpful

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<v Speaker 12>for thresholds. You know, you want to see guys hit

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<v Speaker 12>certain thresholds, because there's a reason why you have the

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<v Speaker 12>phrase outliers like most of the successful players at positions,

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<v Speaker 12>And that's what I'll try and do during our coverage.

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<v Speaker 12>It's frame it with that perspective of most of the

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<v Speaker 12>players that are successful. The top ten receivers and receptions,

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<v Speaker 12>these are what they average ran, this is what they

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<v Speaker 12>average jumped, and you can kind of just see, Okay,

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<v Speaker 12>is this player that's on the line right now, is

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<v Speaker 12>he kind of parking his car in the right neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 12>For those who've been successful.

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<v Speaker 2>I love the ten yards That to me, I think

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<v Speaker 2>you can get a ten yard time and see success

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<v Speaker 2>at any position because it's so quick off the line,

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<v Speaker 2>your lineman, your lineback, your edge rusher, your wide receiver,

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<v Speaker 2>running back, I mean all of that. But that's not

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<v Speaker 2>glamorous because if somebody says, oh, what was your ten

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<v Speaker 2>yard time, it doesn't resonate where you go. Damn, did

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<v Speaker 2>you see how fast his ten yard time was?

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, I mean look for it. Is that way really

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<v Speaker 12>in draft rooms, when you're talking about lineman, we talk

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<v Speaker 12>of offensive lineman defensive lineman for sure, and that's the number.

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<v Speaker 12>We don't really spend much time talking about the forty

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<v Speaker 12>on those big guys. We talk about that, you know,

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<v Speaker 12>on corners it matters. The forty matters because you'll see

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<v Speaker 12>guys who can get up to top speed quickly, but

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<v Speaker 12>then they don't have that other gear and you'll see

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<v Speaker 12>receivers separate from them down the field. Same thing for

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<v Speaker 12>wide out. So there's value in the longer distance with

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<v Speaker 12>those skill players. But for the lineman absolutely. I mean,

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<v Speaker 12>that's all you really focus on is the ten.

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<v Speaker 2>What is the number one topic in Indie.

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<v Speaker 3>The Bears?

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<v Speaker 12>You know, it's just it's it's there's so many different

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<v Speaker 12>layers to it.

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<v Speaker 10>Dan.

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<v Speaker 12>So normally you come into this thing and it's like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 12>this team has the first pick, they don't have a quarterback.

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<v Speaker 12>You know which one of these one? You know, one,

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<v Speaker 12>two or three guys are you know, who are we

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<v Speaker 12>talking about here? Who are they going to take? And

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<v Speaker 12>now you have the fields factor, you have the fact

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<v Speaker 12>that they have the ninth pick as well, and just

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<v Speaker 12>kind of how all that stuff works together and that

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<v Speaker 12>is going to have the trickle down effect on the

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<v Speaker 12>rest of the draft. So that's you know, when you're

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<v Speaker 12>walking around on the street and you run into buddies

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<v Speaker 12>and stuff. Everybody. Everybody wants to know what the heck

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<v Speaker 12>those guys are going to do.

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<v Speaker 2>The Raiders GM, when asked about DeVante Adams, said he's

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<v Speaker 2>a Raider. When the Bears, GM was asked about Justin Fields,

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<v Speaker 2>he was like, uh, you know, we're open, We're not sure.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to do right by Justin if you if

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<v Speaker 2>you want to commit to him, you can and then

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<v Speaker 2>the free for all begins for that number one overall pick. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you think they're moving on.

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<v Speaker 12>I'm with you. I've been saying that from the From

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<v Speaker 12>the very beginning, I felt like this was this was

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<v Speaker 12>going to happen. They were going to move on. Now,

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<v Speaker 12>I would say in terms of the odds that I

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<v Speaker 12>feel like it's eighty to ninety percent they are going

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<v Speaker 12>to stick at one and they're going to take Caleb

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<v Speaker 12>Williams and the other ten to twenty percent is okay,

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<v Speaker 12>maybe they have they're comfortable with one of these other quarterbacks,

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<v Speaker 12>and they're comfortable maybe moving back within range to still

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<v Speaker 12>get Justin Field's replacement. But I just the way that

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<v Speaker 12>you know, the way that look from the outside, and

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<v Speaker 12>then I'm waiting for polls to say something that's going

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<v Speaker 12>to change my mind, and that didn't happen at all

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<v Speaker 12>with what he said, because you would come in there

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<v Speaker 12>and say, Dan, look, we love Justin fields the strides

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<v Speaker 12>that he's taken. I mean for us to go in

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<v Speaker 12>a different direction, they would we would have to be

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<v Speaker 12>blown away to not stick with Justin because of how

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<v Speaker 12>excited we are. That did not sound like that yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it did not. It did not. I brought up

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<v Speaker 2>the potential for a new kickoff adopting the XFL model.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think the realistic possibility is of something

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<v Speaker 2>like that too? You know, we had the biggest game

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<v Speaker 2>of the year and there were no kickoff returns. What

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<v Speaker 2>would you do if you're going to try to incorporate

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<v Speaker 2>something to start a game instead of starting a game

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<v Speaker 2>with the touchback?

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<v Speaker 12>Well, then full transparency. I've spent a lot of time

0:23:52.840 --> 0:23:54.879
<v Speaker 12>over the last several months watching the three hundred and

0:23:54.920 --> 0:23:57.560
<v Speaker 12>thirty guys here, and I haven't caught up on the

0:23:57.640 --> 0:24:00.280
<v Speaker 12>XFL in a few years since it launched. So is

0:24:00.320 --> 0:24:01.720
<v Speaker 12>the XFL kickoff role?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, they're going to have you separated by five yards,

0:24:06.000 --> 0:24:09.360
<v Speaker 2>so the kicking team is going to be at your

0:24:09.440 --> 0:24:13.399
<v Speaker 2>thirty five. You're receiving lineman. All ten guys are going

0:24:13.480 --> 0:24:17.159
<v Speaker 2>to be at the thirty Okay, they can't move until

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<v Speaker 2>the ball is fielded. Oh interesting, so no runouts whatsoever?

0:24:23.359 --> 0:24:24.600
<v Speaker 12>Yeah, you eliminate the runway.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, what do you think?

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<v Speaker 10>I like that?

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<v Speaker 3>I like that?

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<v Speaker 12>And look, you know, calling the Charger games, it's become

0:24:30.920 --> 0:24:33.240
<v Speaker 12>time where you know, you kind of grab your water

0:24:33.280 --> 0:24:36.520
<v Speaker 12>when they're kicking off and make sure you're taking care

0:24:36.560 --> 0:24:38.879
<v Speaker 12>of here and see who what personnel group is going

0:24:38.960 --> 0:24:40.600
<v Speaker 12>to try it out onto the field. So I would

0:24:40.640 --> 0:24:42.520
<v Speaker 12>like to see it become a play again. It's it's

0:24:42.520 --> 0:24:45.360
<v Speaker 12>impacted me just watching players dan like I normally when

0:24:45.400 --> 0:24:47.440
<v Speaker 12>I watch the whiteouts, and I'll go through and I'll

0:24:47.440 --> 0:24:49.719
<v Speaker 12>look at their return yards and I'll go, okay, I'm

0:24:49.760 --> 0:24:52.640
<v Speaker 12>gonna watch all their returns, and I'm like, why why

0:24:52.720 --> 0:24:54.800
<v Speaker 12>am I? Why am I spending my time evaluating these

0:24:54.840 --> 0:24:57.400
<v Speaker 12>guys kickoff returns? There are not really a kickoff return anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I wonder what we're gonna do with the punt, Like,

0:25:01.440 --> 0:25:04.600
<v Speaker 2>is the NFL I'm going to somehow modify what you

0:25:04.640 --> 0:25:06.800
<v Speaker 2>can do on a punt, Like I don't know how

0:25:06.840 --> 0:25:09.000
<v Speaker 2>far they're going to take this, but I do get

0:25:09.080 --> 0:25:10.120
<v Speaker 2>concerned about then.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, no, I look that's interesting. I again, I didn't

0:25:14.000 --> 0:25:15.600
<v Speaker 12>see the XFL, but I think that is kind of

0:25:15.800 --> 0:25:17.840
<v Speaker 12>a fascinating come you know, kind of a way to

0:25:17.880 --> 0:25:20.840
<v Speaker 12>combine things to make it more safe, but yet have

0:25:20.840 --> 0:25:22.520
<v Speaker 12>have it be a meaningful play the punt thing. I

0:25:22.520 --> 0:25:23.960
<v Speaker 12>don't know what the answer would be there.

0:25:24.320 --> 0:25:29.359
<v Speaker 2>He's Daniel Jeremiah, NFL network analyst and Chargers radio color analyst.

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<v Speaker 2>The quarterbacks who are going to show up. I don't

0:25:31.880 --> 0:25:35.320
<v Speaker 2>know how many are going to go through drills, but

0:25:36.359 --> 0:25:40.919
<v Speaker 2>that could you be swayed with the medicals and you know,

0:25:40.960 --> 0:25:44.560
<v Speaker 2>the interviewing portion more so than you see something on

0:25:44.600 --> 0:25:45.080
<v Speaker 2>the field.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, the most powerful, you know, tool that would impact

0:25:49.760 --> 0:25:52.080
<v Speaker 12>your draft stock is what happens with the medical because

0:25:52.119 --> 0:25:53.719
<v Speaker 12>then it's not even you don't even get to make

0:25:53.720 --> 0:25:55.840
<v Speaker 12>the decision. You know. I've been in the personnel room

0:25:55.840 --> 0:25:59.359
<v Speaker 12>where we finished meetings, you know, going into the combine,

0:25:59.440 --> 0:26:01.439
<v Speaker 12>and I've seeing the board and how we had it

0:26:01.440 --> 0:26:04.360
<v Speaker 12>stacked up. And then you come back for the next

0:26:04.440 --> 0:26:06.600
<v Speaker 12>round of meetings in a first of April, and you

0:26:06.600 --> 0:26:08.640
<v Speaker 12>go what happened to Johnson? Johnson was all the way

0:26:08.680 --> 0:26:11.639
<v Speaker 12>up there like he's off, like the medical stuff. He

0:26:11.760 --> 0:26:14.840
<v Speaker 12>got completely taken off of our board. So that's, you know,

0:26:14.960 --> 0:26:17.639
<v Speaker 12>that's the most impactful thing that happens down here this week.

0:26:17.840 --> 0:26:19.320
<v Speaker 12>And I would say I was talking to some I

0:26:19.359 --> 0:26:21.560
<v Speaker 12>was talking to a GM yesterday about the interviews and

0:26:21.880 --> 0:26:24.080
<v Speaker 12>he was saying, how you know, how much can you

0:26:24.160 --> 0:26:27.280
<v Speaker 12>get out of fifteen minutes with a kid? And I said, well,

0:26:27.320 --> 0:26:29.400
<v Speaker 12>I don't know that they can convince you of anything

0:26:29.480 --> 0:26:32.160
<v Speaker 12>or sell you on anything, but I have been in there,

0:26:32.200 --> 0:26:34.120
<v Speaker 12>and he admitted he had too. We're some and it's

0:26:34.240 --> 0:26:38.679
<v Speaker 12>very rare people disqualify themselves rather quickly in a fifteen

0:26:38.680 --> 0:26:40.000
<v Speaker 12>minute interview. But that's rare.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. Did you have any silly questions when you were

0:26:43.000 --> 0:26:46.040
<v Speaker 2>doing these interviews? I?

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, I mean I my favorite one. I think I

0:26:49.000 --> 0:26:51.439
<v Speaker 12>might have told you this before. My favorite one was

0:26:51.520 --> 0:26:54.440
<v Speaker 12>when we had pac Man Jones in and we asked him.

0:26:54.560 --> 0:26:56.480
<v Speaker 12>I didn't ask him, but somebody in the room. I

0:26:56.560 --> 0:26:58.480
<v Speaker 12>hate the one to ten questions, but somebody in the

0:26:58.520 --> 0:27:00.679
<v Speaker 12>room asked him, how would you judge your hands on

0:27:00.760 --> 0:27:03.080
<v Speaker 12>a scale of one to ten? And pac Man looked

0:27:03.119 --> 0:27:04.760
<v Speaker 12>at his right hand and said, ten, and then he

0:27:04.800 --> 0:27:06.600
<v Speaker 12>looked at his left hand and said ten. He created

0:27:06.600 --> 0:27:08.040
<v Speaker 12>them individually, not collectively.

0:27:11.960 --> 0:27:15.800
<v Speaker 2>I like that. I like that, where's your second tier?

0:27:16.880 --> 0:27:20.200
<v Speaker 2>You draw the line with the three Drake May, Jane Daniels,

0:27:20.200 --> 0:27:22.560
<v Speaker 2>and Caleb Williams, and then there's a drop off.

0:27:23.359 --> 0:27:25.520
<v Speaker 12>Yeah for me. For me, yeah, there's a drop off

0:27:25.560 --> 0:27:27.359
<v Speaker 12>then you get into the next three. So I feel

0:27:27.359 --> 0:27:29.480
<v Speaker 12>like we have, you know, kind of a three man

0:27:29.520 --> 0:27:31.240
<v Speaker 12>battle at the top, and then I think kind of

0:27:31.240 --> 0:27:35.040
<v Speaker 12>have a three man battle for that next one with McCarthy,

0:27:35.400 --> 0:27:38.000
<v Speaker 12>with bow Nix and with Pennix. And so that's the

0:27:38.000 --> 0:27:40.000
<v Speaker 12>cool thing about this, you know, like we won't see

0:27:40.040 --> 0:27:42.480
<v Speaker 12>the top three guys out there throwing at the combine,

0:27:42.760 --> 0:27:45.240
<v Speaker 12>but there's other competitions taking place. And to be honest

0:27:45.240 --> 0:27:47.240
<v Speaker 12>with you, Dan, I don't know who would you rather be.

0:27:47.520 --> 0:27:49.880
<v Speaker 12>Would you rather be one of those three teams competing

0:27:49.920 --> 0:27:52.040
<v Speaker 12>to go to a team that's picking first, second, or third,

0:27:52.240 --> 0:27:53.679
<v Speaker 12>or would you rather be those other three who are

0:27:53.680 --> 0:27:56.320
<v Speaker 12>gonna get a chance to go to better rosters, you know,

0:27:56.440 --> 0:27:59.240
<v Speaker 12>less pressure, more players around you. Like that that we

0:27:59.280 --> 0:28:01.800
<v Speaker 12>could have an argument on whether that's the better option there.

0:28:01.880 --> 0:28:04.239
<v Speaker 2>Well, I think we've talked about it. I certainly have

0:28:04.359 --> 0:28:07.840
<v Speaker 2>on the show that the reason why some quarterbacks are

0:28:07.920 --> 0:28:10.840
<v Speaker 2>successful is they went a little bit later and went

0:28:10.960 --> 0:28:13.560
<v Speaker 2>to a more established team and the coach. You know,

0:28:13.560 --> 0:28:17.560
<v Speaker 2>look at Mahomes. If Mahomes goes to you know, Carolina

0:28:17.640 --> 0:28:20.399
<v Speaker 2>or whoever, you know, even this year, Patrick Mahomes and

0:28:20.520 --> 0:28:24.159
<v Speaker 2>Carolina would not be Patrick Mahomes. He just wouldn't be.

0:28:24.480 --> 0:28:26.320
<v Speaker 2>But you go, you got a Hall of fame coach,

0:28:26.680 --> 0:28:29.399
<v Speaker 2>they have some Hall of Fame talent on that team,

0:28:29.640 --> 0:28:32.680
<v Speaker 2>and you put in his talent. And you know that's

0:28:32.720 --> 0:28:36.400
<v Speaker 2>what when you're more successful, you're more successful sooner. Sometimes

0:28:36.440 --> 0:28:38.360
<v Speaker 2>when you go a little bit later in the in

0:28:38.400 --> 0:28:38.880
<v Speaker 2>the draft.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, at the continuity, man, it's it's everything for those guys.

0:28:43.440 --> 0:28:46.080
<v Speaker 12>And like I get asked the question about Kayleb Williams

0:28:46.080 --> 0:28:47.800
<v Speaker 12>all the time, as I can he be you know,

0:28:48.080 --> 0:28:49.840
<v Speaker 12>you know, maybe not Patrick Moulk. Can it be like

0:28:50.040 --> 0:28:52.000
<v Speaker 12>Patrick Mahomes, can he have you know, can he.

0:28:52.000 --> 0:28:52.400
<v Speaker 10>Be that down?

0:28:52.400 --> 0:28:53.840
<v Speaker 12>I'm like, well, does he get to go sit behind

0:28:53.840 --> 0:28:55.880
<v Speaker 12>Alex Smith for a year, get coached by Andy Reid

0:28:55.920 --> 0:28:57.880
<v Speaker 12>for a year and throw to Kelsey and Tyreek Hill

0:28:57.920 --> 0:28:59.400
<v Speaker 12>as he kind of gets to speak what I'd feel

0:28:59.480 --> 0:29:01.960
<v Speaker 12>very confident and saying, yep, I'll stamp that one, that

0:29:02.000 --> 0:29:04.280
<v Speaker 12>one's going to happen. But you don't know what type

0:29:04.280 --> 0:29:05.920
<v Speaker 12>of environment these guys are going to go into.

0:29:06.440 --> 0:29:08.840
<v Speaker 2>Well, there's the reason why these teams are picking high

0:29:08.880 --> 0:29:12.160
<v Speaker 2>because they've had turnover. Maybe you don't have good ownership.

0:29:12.240 --> 0:29:14.880
<v Speaker 2>Maybe uh, you know, it's a new coach, an offensive

0:29:14.920 --> 0:29:18.000
<v Speaker 2>coordinator and you know all of those things. Also, they

0:29:18.040 --> 0:29:21.720
<v Speaker 2>got rid of the cognitive test after what happened to CJ. Stroud.

0:29:24.200 --> 0:29:27.240
<v Speaker 2>Help me understand exactly, you know, was this a smear

0:29:27.320 --> 0:29:30.800
<v Speaker 2>campaign with CJ Stroud? You know, was it leaked to

0:29:30.840 --> 0:29:34.520
<v Speaker 2>embarrass him or have him drop? You know, is it

0:29:34.560 --> 0:29:36.280
<v Speaker 2>is it you know strategy here?

0:29:37.680 --> 0:29:40.040
<v Speaker 12>I think you probably. I think that's given whoever leaked

0:29:40.040 --> 0:29:42.520
<v Speaker 12>at too much credit. I think a lot of times

0:29:42.520 --> 0:29:45.760
<v Speaker 12>what happens is there's a weird relationship between you know,

0:29:45.960 --> 0:29:49.320
<v Speaker 12>coaches or even personnel who get access to this information

0:29:49.880 --> 0:29:53.959
<v Speaker 12>and they become friendly with reporters and it's kind of

0:29:54.360 --> 0:29:56.800
<v Speaker 12>you know, I'm not saying this is the motivation, but

0:29:56.880 --> 0:29:58.600
<v Speaker 12>a lot of times it's, hey, you know, you're kind

0:29:58.640 --> 0:30:00.880
<v Speaker 12>of helping me with you know, con text and helping

0:30:00.920 --> 0:30:02.920
<v Speaker 12>me get my name out there and helping me. Hey,

0:30:02.960 --> 0:30:04.600
<v Speaker 12>let me give you a little something. How about this?

0:30:04.640 --> 0:30:07.040
<v Speaker 12>Can you believe this? This kid got you know, such

0:30:07.080 --> 0:30:09.640
<v Speaker 12>and such on a test. Uh, And it's kind of

0:30:09.680 --> 0:30:12.280
<v Speaker 12>just like a trade of information there. I don't think

0:30:12.320 --> 0:30:15.000
<v Speaker 12>there was anything that was you know, ah, we're going

0:30:15.040 --> 0:30:16.360
<v Speaker 12>to try and get him to fall in our lap

0:30:16.360 --> 0:30:17.920
<v Speaker 12>and he's going to drop in the draft. I think

0:30:17.920 --> 0:30:19.320
<v Speaker 12>it was something probably like that.

0:30:20.080 --> 0:30:25.480
<v Speaker 2>Well, considering how CJ. Stround performed, you know, maybe we

0:30:25.840 --> 0:30:28.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, reconsider that test. I know some agencies just

0:30:28.560 --> 0:30:30.760
<v Speaker 2>said we're not going to have our players take it,

0:30:31.200 --> 0:30:33.880
<v Speaker 2>and and you know, I feel bad even the Wonder Lick.

0:30:34.280 --> 0:30:36.840
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't take the Wonder Lick, and I wouldn't take

0:30:36.840 --> 0:30:41.360
<v Speaker 2>the cognitive test because not everything is shared, so it's

0:30:41.360 --> 0:30:43.840
<v Speaker 2>not going to be private. And then all of a sudden,

0:30:43.960 --> 0:30:45.640
<v Speaker 2>you know you're going to be the guy who got

0:30:45.680 --> 0:30:48.160
<v Speaker 2>a nine on the wonder Lick. You can't play football,

0:30:48.360 --> 0:30:51.959
<v Speaker 2>or you know, your cognitive test was really low, you

0:30:52.000 --> 0:30:56.240
<v Speaker 2>can't play. I don't know. I understand the player's side

0:30:56.240 --> 0:30:56.479
<v Speaker 2>of this.

0:30:57.320 --> 0:30:59.800
<v Speaker 12>So I used to have to at Pro Day's. When

0:30:59.840 --> 0:31:02.440
<v Speaker 12>you're scouting, you carry in your backpack a stack of

0:31:02.440 --> 0:31:04.640
<v Speaker 12>wonder Lick tests and the guys that hadn't taken them,

0:31:04.800 --> 0:31:06.320
<v Speaker 12>or hadn't been to the combine or at the proto,

0:31:06.360 --> 0:31:08.600
<v Speaker 12>you'd have to administer the test. So I come home

0:31:08.600 --> 0:31:10.960
<v Speaker 12>from a pro day and I put my bag on

0:31:11.000 --> 0:31:12.800
<v Speaker 12>the table and I can't clean out my backpack and

0:31:12.840 --> 0:31:14.760
<v Speaker 12>these tests around the table. My wife goes, what's that

0:31:15.480 --> 0:31:17.320
<v Speaker 12>and I go, oh, this is the Wonderlick test. I said,

0:31:17.320 --> 0:31:19.320
<v Speaker 12>I'll tell you what. You sit down at a twelve

0:31:19.360 --> 0:31:22.280
<v Speaker 12>minute test. You take it first, and then I'll take

0:31:22.320 --> 0:31:24.920
<v Speaker 12>it after you take it. So my wife takes it

0:31:25.160 --> 0:31:27.520
<v Speaker 12>and she gets like a I want like a thirty

0:31:27.520 --> 0:31:29.360
<v Speaker 12>seven or a thirty eight, which is a really high score.

0:31:29.600 --> 0:31:31.440
<v Speaker 12>I go, hey, that's great. She goes, Okay, your turn.

0:31:31.480 --> 0:31:33.520
<v Speaker 12>I go, no chance, I said, I've spent my whole

0:31:33.560 --> 0:31:35.400
<v Speaker 12>life thinking you're smarter than me. I don't want it

0:31:35.440 --> 0:31:38.640
<v Speaker 12>to be concretely proven. It didn't take it not happening. Yeah,

0:31:38.680 --> 0:31:40.200
<v Speaker 12>So I didn't want to share that information with my

0:31:40.240 --> 0:31:42.480
<v Speaker 12>significant other. I can imagine how other people must feel

0:31:42.520 --> 0:31:43.120
<v Speaker 12>when it gets public.

0:31:43.280 --> 0:31:46.480
<v Speaker 2>Okay, but does it really translate into anything? When you're

0:31:46.520 --> 0:31:50.080
<v Speaker 2>asking me these questions like give me a for instance, question.

0:31:51.600 --> 0:31:54.200
<v Speaker 12>A lot of times it can be like the simple

0:31:54.440 --> 0:31:56.920
<v Speaker 12>you know, if you're leaving you know this city at

0:31:56.920 --> 0:31:59.320
<v Speaker 12>this time and you're going sixty miles an hour or

0:31:59.320 --> 0:32:01.600
<v Speaker 12>two hours from now, you know that that type of

0:32:02.200 --> 0:32:03.120
<v Speaker 12>that type of stuff.

0:32:04.400 --> 0:32:04.760
<v Speaker 10>I don't know.

0:32:04.840 --> 0:32:07.239
<v Speaker 12>I I've never I've never been a huge believer in that.

0:32:07.320 --> 0:32:09.960
<v Speaker 12>I've been on teams where some of our lowest scores

0:32:10.000 --> 0:32:11.880
<v Speaker 12>on that because it would be on their draft card.

0:32:12.440 --> 0:32:14.680
<v Speaker 12>Are you know they have gold jackets hanging in their

0:32:14.720 --> 0:32:17.320
<v Speaker 12>closet right now, so you know, I never bought to that.

0:32:17.440 --> 0:32:20.880
<v Speaker 12>But I think people dan and whether it's the cognitive

0:32:20.920 --> 0:32:23.560
<v Speaker 12>tests or whether it's a metric, whether it's you know,

0:32:23.600 --> 0:32:25.840
<v Speaker 12>the GPS data that we get now, whether it's a

0:32:25.880 --> 0:32:28.960
<v Speaker 12>stat that these guys have. Everybody's trying to find like

0:32:29.040 --> 0:32:31.600
<v Speaker 12>the okay, what's the code here, what's the cheat code

0:32:31.640 --> 0:32:33.520
<v Speaker 12>for how we figure these players out? And it turns

0:32:33.520 --> 0:32:36.520
<v Speaker 12>out there isn't one. Man, it's not it's not a science.

0:32:36.800 --> 0:32:39.240
<v Speaker 12>There is not one you know, data point. There's not

0:32:39.360 --> 0:32:41.280
<v Speaker 12>one question you get an answer and you're gonna know

0:32:41.680 --> 0:32:44.920
<v Speaker 12>who these guys are. It's I mean, it's a it's

0:32:44.920 --> 0:32:47.400
<v Speaker 12>a flip of the coin sometimes, man, you don't. It's

0:32:47.720 --> 0:32:50.000
<v Speaker 12>it's it's it's difficult to figure out. And I think

0:32:50.000 --> 0:32:52.240
<v Speaker 12>people have tried to find a shortcut and there isn't one.

0:32:52.680 --> 0:32:56.120
<v Speaker 2>I go back to when I was told about a

0:32:56.240 --> 0:33:02.400
<v Speaker 2>quarterback and this was equipment manager, and he said, wait

0:33:02.440 --> 0:33:03.880
<v Speaker 2>till you get a load of this guy, and I go,

0:33:03.920 --> 0:33:05.960
<v Speaker 2>what do you mean? He goes, doesn't put in the time,

0:33:06.520 --> 0:33:08.680
<v Speaker 2>doesn't put in the effort, and was it well liked?

0:33:08.960 --> 0:33:11.200
<v Speaker 2>And he's going to go high in the draft. And

0:33:11.240 --> 0:33:15.760
<v Speaker 2>then I immediately thought, I wonder how often people do

0:33:15.880 --> 0:33:18.680
<v Speaker 2>background checks from the standpoint of you know, if the

0:33:18.720 --> 0:33:22.800
<v Speaker 2>equipment guy, team manager, any of those things. And I

0:33:22.840 --> 0:33:25.120
<v Speaker 2>know that it puts them in a tough spot, but

0:33:25.200 --> 0:33:27.600
<v Speaker 2>you do want to find out about this guy somehow,

0:33:27.680 --> 0:33:30.720
<v Speaker 2>some way. Hey, dear teammates like you. Like it seems

0:33:30.760 --> 0:33:35.440
<v Speaker 2>so simple, your teammates like you. And in this case,

0:33:35.720 --> 0:33:37.960
<v Speaker 2>he proved to be correct in what he was saying

0:33:38.000 --> 0:33:40.720
<v Speaker 2>about this player who didn't turn out to be a

0:33:40.720 --> 0:33:42.440
<v Speaker 2>successful quarterback in the NFL.

0:33:43.320 --> 0:33:43.520
<v Speaker 10>Yeah.

0:33:43.800 --> 0:33:47.280
<v Speaker 12>I've always found like these combine interviews. I would learn

0:33:47.360 --> 0:33:50.560
<v Speaker 12>more about their teammates than I would about them individually,

0:33:51.000 --> 0:33:53.040
<v Speaker 12>because they're going to have all their canned answers. They've

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<v Speaker 12>been training, they've had people telling them what to say

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<v Speaker 12>to all these questions. But when you have a kid

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<v Speaker 12>in from Texas and you say, hey, any of your

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<v Speaker 12>teammates say anything at halftime when you were down, you know,

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<v Speaker 12>by two touchdowns in this particular game, any of your

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<v Speaker 12>teammates said, oh, gosh, the linebacker, you know, Smith came

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<v Speaker 12>in and he was, you know, getting in everybody's face

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<v Speaker 12>and got us going and blah blah blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 12>And I've learned more about his teammate than I did

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<v Speaker 12>about him in that fifteen minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>Great to talk to you, have fun there, and uh,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll talk to you soon.

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<v Speaker 12>I'm gonna stress it ten times this year, Dan, I

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<v Speaker 12>like it.

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<v Speaker 2>I like it. Thank you, buddy, Daniel Jeremiah. NFL network

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<v Speaker 2>analyst Rich Eisen has the forty. I'm going to do

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<v Speaker 2>the ten.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh you gotta start preparing though, No, I don't, can you?

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<v Speaker 8>I would tap out at eight probably I wouldn't make it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to coast like I'm going to do like

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<v Speaker 2>Ussein Bolt where he looks over his shoulder when I

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<v Speaker 2>get to eight yards, I'm gonna be like, eh, where

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<v Speaker 2>are you I'm gonna do the ten yard dash? Take

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<v Speaker 2>I mentioned this starting the hour Caitlin Clark plays tonight

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<v Speaker 2>against Minnesota and moving in on Pete Marivitch's all time

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<v Speaker 2>scoring record, But I mentioned Lynette Woodard who played at

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<v Speaker 2>Kansas and then played for the Globe Trotters, and when

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<v Speaker 2>she was playing and setting the all time scoring record,

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<v Speaker 2>there wasn't an nc double A and I think it

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<v Speaker 2>was the aia W, perhaps Paulie if I'm correct with the.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, you are correct, and the AIAW the Intercollegiate Athletics

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<v Speaker 8>for Women. They changed in the nineteen eighty two season

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<v Speaker 8>to the NCAA. So Caitlyn Clark is the NCAA all

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<v Speaker 8>time leading score now. Lynette Woodard missed the NCAA by

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<v Speaker 8>one season. She played one more seasons at Kansas. She

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<v Speaker 8>also didn't have a three point line, by the way,

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<v Speaker 8>but she if she played one more season at Kansas,

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<v Speaker 8>she would have overlapped with one year with the NCAA.

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<v Speaker 8>Now here's the thing that's unfair to her. Other people

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<v Speaker 8>like coaches Tera van Derveer and Pat Summit. They coached

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<v Speaker 8>the AIAW, and their wins in the AIAW translated over

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<v Speaker 8>to their overall record wins in their careers.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I didn't know that right.

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<v Speaker 8>So some people are saying that it's not really fair

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<v Speaker 8>because she didn't play one year of crossing over that

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<v Speaker 8>her stats don't come with because it's happened in other cases.

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<v Speaker 2>Caitlin Clark has been unbelievable. But I think you know,

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<v Speaker 2>when you honor those who are breaking records, now, just

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<v Speaker 2>don't forget about those that you know came before the predecessors.

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<v Speaker 2>And maybe somebody will tonight mention Lynette and what she did.

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<v Speaker 2>And yes, she did play for the Globehotters. She obviously

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<v Speaker 2>was a wonderful player, but she should be recognized here.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw where Jay Williams of the Mothership did he

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<v Speaker 2>say Caitlin Clark's not great yet because she hasn't won

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<v Speaker 2>a championship. I think that was were we on break

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<v Speaker 2>when he said that, And I'm thinking, well, there's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of players and a lot of sports. Who aren't great,

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<v Speaker 2>then Alan Iverson not great, Dan Reno not great, Charles

0:37:05.200 --> 0:37:09.040
<v Speaker 2>Barklay not great, Karl Malone not great. If you want

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<v Speaker 2>to say greatest of all time, that's fine, okay. And

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<v Speaker 2>if you're going to use that logic, if Jay is

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<v Speaker 2>using that logic, then Breonna Stewart is the greatest college

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<v Speaker 2>women's college basketball player of all time, not even close,

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<v Speaker 2>No argument, can't be. She won four titles and I

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<v Speaker 2>believe she was most valuable player all four at times

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<v Speaker 2>they won the tournament, right, got to be the greatest

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<v Speaker 2>of all time? Yes?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think he was saying not that she's not great,

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<v Speaker 4>but that you can't put her in the conversation of

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<v Speaker 4>greatest of all time until you win a championship.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought he was saying he didn't use the word

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<v Speaker 2>great yet. I thought he said goat. Oh okay, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to be fair to Jay. I thought he

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<v Speaker 2>said that he can't use the word great yet. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought it was goat, but goat great but could be. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>he said that there's levels to greatness and if you

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<v Speaker 4>want to be considered one of the greatest of all

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<v Speaker 4>time time, you have to have championships.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think if she was on a on Yukon,

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<v Speaker 2>she would probably have a title or two. Or South

0:38:09.760 --> 0:38:15.840
<v Speaker 2>Carolina LSU. I mean is who is at Reese with

0:38:16.080 --> 0:38:20.400
<v Speaker 2>LSU Angel Reese. I mean she transferred, but she went

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<v Speaker 2>to LSU. I think she was at Maryland so she

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<v Speaker 2>could be in conversation before Caitlin Clark becures she's won

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<v Speaker 2>a title. I get it that, you know, bottom line

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<v Speaker 2>sports society, that we want you to win championships, But

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<v Speaker 2>in some instances, I think you have to look at

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<v Speaker 2>the context of how good you were when you played.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think I was a good you know, a

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<v Speaker 2>top end basketball team. I think she makes them a

0:38:45.760 --> 0:38:49.760
<v Speaker 2>top end basketball team. South Carolina doesn't have any stars.

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<v Speaker 2>South Carolina's the best team in the country, no name recognition,

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<v Speaker 2>lost all five starters from last year, but they are

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<v Speaker 2>the favorites to win the title. Yeah, and greatness is

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<v Speaker 2>an open conversation. What about greatness in lifting up a sport,

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<v Speaker 2>lifting up a university Iowa University, lifting up the sport

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<v Speaker 2>of women's basketball. There's a lot of people have won

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<v Speaker 2>titles who have not lifted anything, have not captivated America.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a different level of greatness. Your personal definition the

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<v Speaker 2>impact that she's had on her sport. It's like Steph Curry.

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<v Speaker 2>If Steph Curry didn't win a title, but he's still

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<v Speaker 2>with Steph Curry, He'd still be the greatest shooter of

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<v Speaker 2>all time. But you throw in the titles. Now he

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<v Speaker 2>can be at least in the conversation. He's in at

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<v Speaker 2>least the room of greatest player of all time. He

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<v Speaker 2>may not call his name for a little while, but

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<v Speaker 2>he's still there because he won those championships.

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<v Speaker 8>Yes, Paulin, you could make the case, and I'm not

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<v Speaker 8>trying to overdo it here, so pump the brakes. Is

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<v Speaker 8>kayl and Clark can be compared a little bit to

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<v Speaker 8>Wayne Gretzky in changing direction of a sport, or interest

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<v Speaker 8>in a sport, or captivation of a true phenom. And

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<v Speaker 8>you know, if you saw what Gretzky did for hockey

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<v Speaker 8>in America. Now, I don't not equating apples to apples,

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<v Speaker 8>but women's basketball in the past four years, the ratings

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<v Speaker 8>speak for themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, she's selling out buildings. I mean, when's the last

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<v Speaker 2>time you know a student body stormed the court after

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<v Speaker 2>a win? You know, where ten thousand people at Ohio

0:40:18.080 --> 0:40:20.520
<v Speaker 2>State went to see or play. She has had a

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<v Speaker 2>great impact. I don't think she's going to win the

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<v Speaker 2>title this year. You know, if they get to the

0:40:26.280 --> 0:40:30.000
<v Speaker 2>final four, that'll be a monumental achievement there because they

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<v Speaker 2>Indiana's a good team, Ohio State's a good team, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know there's other good teams just in the Big Ten.

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<v Speaker 2>But her impact has been wonderful. But it goes back

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<v Speaker 2>to what I said before, don't forget about the players

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<v Speaker 2>who came before you. I'm not saying she's not remembering them.

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<v Speaker 2>Cheryl Miller's probably the best female player I ever saw,

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<v Speaker 2>but having seen her in person, but Caitlin Clark, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean that's that's a whole different level of impact on

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<v Speaker 2>a sport. Cheryl's the first athlete I saw. I was like, Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>Cheryl can play. Final Hour on the way, we'll check

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<v Speaker 2>in with the Chicago Bears. We'll get to your phone

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<v Speaker 2>calls as well. One more hour in the books to go.

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<v Speaker 2>Dan Patrick's show