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Speaker 1: J P, thank you very much, and welcome to Jaguars

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Speaker 1: Happy Hour for the final time on a Monday in

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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty season. My name's j P. Shadrick, and

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Speaker 1: we've got a show for you today. It is the

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Speaker 1: final day that we'll have Tony Boselli and Pete Prisco

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Speaker 1: together on this program, our final Monday program presented by

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Speaker 1: Jet Home Loans. We'll get their thoughts on shot con

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Speaker 1: Speaking with the media earlier today, Doug Brone fired this morning.

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Speaker 1: The general manager and the head coach positions are now

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Speaker 1: open for the Jacksonville Jaguars. Will go through each of

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Speaker 1: those and what they have to offer and where they

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Speaker 1: rank a round the National Football League. Social media questions

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Speaker 1: came in hot and heavy today, and we'll go around

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Speaker 1: the NFL and the NFL playoffs in fact that start

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Speaker 1: next week. Let's start with today's news. The Jaguars, of course,

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Speaker 1: yesterday lost in Weeks seventeen, the fifte consecutive loss to

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Speaker 1: wrap up the regular season, and about Fourteen hours later,

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Speaker 1: Jack's owner shot Kind announced the dismissal of head coach

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Speaker 1: Doug Marone. In a statement, he thanked him for his

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Speaker 1: grit and his work over the years here in four

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Speaker 1: plus seasons with the Jacksonville Jaguars, but said it was

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Speaker 1: time to make a full change on the football operations

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Speaker 1: side of things. About an hour and a half after

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Speaker 1: that announcement, today, Con spoke with the media on a

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Speaker 1: video conference to chart the course for the future of

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Speaker 1: the franchise, including the quarterback position, the GM and head

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Speaker 1: coach searches, and much more. And he started with the

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Speaker 1: float chart for the new hires moving ahead. A key

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Speaker 1: thing how you know we would be structuring this is

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Speaker 1: that I'm going to have the general manager and the

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Speaker 1: head coach report directly to me. And that way, really,

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Speaker 1: you know, you have the transparency and the needs and

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Speaker 1: the concerns of both parties without really getting filtered or

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Speaker 1: having a chain of command. So um. And that's really

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Speaker 1: what necessitates that you basically hire them about the same time. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And really you have a perfect alignment, which you need

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Speaker 1: in a winning organization. Shot Con earlier today the full

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Speaker 1: visit on Jaguars dot com right now. We'll here a

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Speaker 1: little more later in the show from the Jaguars owner

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Speaker 1: and Tony was Sully and Pete Frisco join us now

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Speaker 1: for reaction. Guys, good afternoon, Pete, Tony, Tony, what about

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Speaker 1: JP saying this is the last time we're going to

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Speaker 1: be together? Do you know something that we know about

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Speaker 1: next year? Just the games? I think I think we're

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Speaker 1: getting can I think he's making the decision this season.

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Speaker 1: I think after the show, you and I are being

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Speaker 1: called in, we think saying we appreciate your services and

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Speaker 1: it was a great show, but we won't be seeing

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Speaker 1: you guys back next year. So that might depend on

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Speaker 1: who gets fired. But there's a lot of change in

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Speaker 1: the air. I'll say that around here. Pete, well you

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Speaker 1: how did you did he? Did you not hear that? Tony?

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Speaker 1: He said this is the last show. Didn't you hear

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Speaker 1: what you want to hear? Maybe you want to hear that, Pete,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe you don't want to do it.

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Speaker 1: Kid me, I can't wait to light up the new coach.

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Speaker 1: Whoever heard it? Either way, let's get to the point.

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Speaker 1: There is a new head coach opening as well around here,

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Speaker 1: so a lot of News Today. Jaguar's owner shot Con

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Speaker 1: is not often on the record with things, but uh,

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Speaker 1: he set the course moving ahead here Tony about how

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Speaker 1: I think the most important thing he said to me,

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Speaker 1: It's like a married couple. They're in it together. There

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Speaker 1: those two individuals have to be on the same page.

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Speaker 1: That's how every successful organization is created. In my opinion,

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Speaker 1: can't come back and said, look, whether any other coach

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Speaker 1: And Doug knows. I mean, Doug's a realist, he's he's smart,

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Speaker 1: that's just that's the nature of the NFL. It's hard

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Speaker 1: Jaguars had weeks what's the ball with five minutes left

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Speaker 1: in the football game and a chance to take the

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Speaker 1: Urban Meyer want to go down that path. But not

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Speaker 1: only that, it's hard to win in the NFL in

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Speaker 1: a week by week basis. But it's hard to win

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Speaker 1: when you can't recruit the best players. That's when you

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Speaker 1: have to you have to have a whole player for

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Speaker 1: Cuban strategy. What's your strategy like? Because okay, here I'll

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Speaker 1: give you a name I mentioned Matt Gampbell and and

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Speaker 1: Urban Meyer. And the reason that it's different is this

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Speaker 1: Urban Meyer goes to Florida and he gets whatever the

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Speaker 1: heck he wants in terms of players. Look at that

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Speaker 1: team he had there. They were loaded with the NFL players.

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Speaker 1: Now some of them were probably loaded with other stuff

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Speaker 1: remember that team was loaded at a lot of problems

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Speaker 1: and there was a lot of issues, but he got

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Speaker 1: the players there. He went to Ohio State, he got

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Speaker 1: the players there. You look at Matt Campbell. He went

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Speaker 1: to Iawa State, that was it was a doormat and

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Speaker 1: he somehow has turned that team into a winner and

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Speaker 1: it's been a couple of years of being a winner.

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Speaker 1: That tells you he can coach. He can take what

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Speaker 1: he gets and what he has and coach, Whereas when

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Speaker 1: you look at Urban maybe he can just recruit. You

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Speaker 1: don't know if he can coach, because it's a big difference. Tony,

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Speaker 1: you made the point. In the NFL, you're not getting

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Speaker 1: the top guys in every position. Everybody's not a five

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Speaker 1: star you can't just line up seven five stars and

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Speaker 1: say away we go. And that's the difference between a

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Speaker 1: guy like Matt Rule, Matt Campbell, and Urban. My I

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Speaker 1: say he can't do it. I'm just saying it's a

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Speaker 1: lot easier when you when you do it the way

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Speaker 1: those guys do it. Mesh I. We pushed back on

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Speaker 1: you a little bit there because I'm not sure I

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Speaker 1: agree Urban Meyer won a Bowling Green not getting the

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Speaker 1: best players went to Utah. What was you taught before

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Speaker 1: he got there? It wasn't a high price profile job

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Speaker 1: or anything else. Went undefeated when won a bowl game

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Speaker 1: against Alabama, true, and that, and and and again. Early

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Speaker 1: in his career, that's who I think he was. But

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Speaker 1: you know how guys get later in their career when

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Speaker 1: they just kind He didn't forget how to coach beat

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, he forgot what he learned. But

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Speaker 1: I just think that it's a lot easier to reprove

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Speaker 1: to those schools and win than it is to go

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Speaker 1: to those I mean, yeah, he did a great job. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was a big proposent. You could ask Frandi. I

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Speaker 1: was before Frandie even knew who Herbert Meyer was. We

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Speaker 1: were on the show together back in the day, and

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Speaker 1: I said, Herbert Mike would be a great hire for

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Speaker 1: Florida anyone who he didn't even know who he was,

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Speaker 1: and said, go watch him. He's a great job at

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Speaker 1: you talk. And I thought, and I still think he

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Speaker 1: was a hag of a coach. All I'm saying is

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Speaker 1: it's a lot easier to win when you're recruiting than

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Speaker 1: it is when you get to the NFL and everybody

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Speaker 1: has the level playing. Yeah, I guess my bigger issue

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Speaker 1: I'm not. That's definitely something you want to investigate and

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Speaker 1: look into. I just look at the off the field

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Speaker 1: stuff from a standpoint of health, and is this something

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Speaker 1: he really wants to do? I mean, because he's to

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Speaker 1: the last two places he's bad. He left because of

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Speaker 1: health issues and I don't know what they were, if

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Speaker 1: they're stress related or what, but I'll never forget. And

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Speaker 1: it was scary when you watched him on the Ohio

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Speaker 1: State UH sideline at one time. It like basically pass

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Speaker 1: out or go down down to a knee or whatever happened.

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Speaker 1: And so the big question is is this something he

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Speaker 1: really wants to do and is he really you know,

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Speaker 1: of the stress in the work. I mean, he is

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Speaker 1: he ready to go from the cush Fox job that

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Speaker 1: he has, which is a great job, and he does

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Speaker 1: an outstanding job on TV and everything else and making

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Speaker 1: a bunch of money. But you're working about ten hours

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Speaker 1: or thirty hours a week whatever it is now going

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Speaker 1: back and saying everyone's second guessing everything you're doing and

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Speaker 1: putting the hundred hours a weekend and and just a grind.

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Speaker 1: It's a hard job. It's not an easy job. And

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Speaker 1: the issues in the past. Yeah, And the other thing

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Speaker 1: is is he has never been an x as a

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Speaker 1: nose guy, so he's got to hire good coaches underneath them.

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Speaker 1: He's right, And you know you're right though you've we've

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Speaker 1: said this before that that position in the NFL and

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Speaker 1: anywhere you just gotta be able to oversee everything. You

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Speaker 1: don't have to be an excess nose guy. You can.

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Speaker 1: But if you hire the right people, you're okay. If

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Speaker 1: you don't hire the right people underneath you, then that's

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Speaker 1: a problem. And so that would be the key to me.

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Speaker 1: If I was if I were going to talk to Herban,

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Speaker 1: I'd say, okay, Urban, who's coming to be your offensive coordinator?

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Speaker 1: Who's coming to be your defensive coordinator because you're neither.

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Speaker 1: He's neither one. Here's another question, because that's wanted to

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Speaker 1: drive right to who what type of players you go get?

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Speaker 1: Are you? Are you gonna go get his own? Are

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Speaker 1: you gonna go get an offensive cornator like believes what

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Speaker 1: and does or McVeigh so your heavy zone play action

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Speaker 1: pass love the pocket, Well, then you better go get

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Speaker 1: the right type of guys in the quarterback and everyone

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Speaker 1: can do that, or you're gonna be more of a dropback,

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Speaker 1: you know, gap skiing downhill run power type of situation.

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Speaker 1: I mean both work, By the way, there's not a

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Speaker 1: right answer. It's no work. But you just gotta know

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Speaker 1: which one you're getting because you have to go get

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Speaker 1: the right coaches, the right staff, and the right players

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Speaker 1: to fit into that scheme. Or any of these guys

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Speaker 1: should do is get Trevor Lawrence when he drafts him,

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Speaker 1: and then he can sign Tebow and then on third

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Speaker 1: down he can put Tebow in a quarterback and out

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Speaker 1: of here, of all people, of all people, Pete Prisco

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Speaker 1: bringing him up, he is there any other credis how

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Speaker 1: about these other jobs that are open? Are any of

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Speaker 1: those places closer to winnings than the Jaguars are. And

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Speaker 1: would a guy like urban Meyer consider one of those,

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Speaker 1: like the Chargers for example, Yeah, I think the Chargers.

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Speaker 1: I mean, now, you don't have the same ownership that

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Speaker 1: that you do here in Jacksonville. I mean probably the

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Speaker 1: willingness is spend the dollars that um I think shoans

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Speaker 1: wanting to spending free agency and everything else. But as

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Speaker 1: far as attractiveness, they do have cap space, they don't

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Speaker 1: have the draft capital that the Jaguars do. They have

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Speaker 1: a quarterback. They have the quarterback, they have the pass

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Speaker 1: rusher too, the most important pieces of any team, and

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Speaker 1: they should have Derwin James coming back in the back

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Speaker 1: of our secondary to become that there, so you know

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Speaker 1: that job. And if l an Tony, I mean, let's

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Speaker 1: be real, there's a big deby. We we love Jacksonville,

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Speaker 1: but there's a big difference between Jacksonville and l A. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know what the difference is of your income going

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Speaker 1: to the right, but you're also playing You're also playing

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Speaker 1: in a brand new UH facility. That's it's not in

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Speaker 1: I'm not. They can't change the charges. Are second fiddle

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Speaker 1: then there you go. And it's just like, oh, who

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Speaker 1: It's a top If they win, and Trevor Lawrence is

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Speaker 1: Like you said, no state income downs, there's the beaches,

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Speaker 1: it's a great town. It's you kid me. It would

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Speaker 1: All right, guys, let's come back general manager talk when

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Speaker 1: I'm the key decision maker, but we do have the

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Speaker 1: it comes to who the key decision maker is gonna be,

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Speaker 1: I mean you're looking at it. Jaguars owners shot con

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Speaker 1: j P Shadrick, Tony Vaselli, Pete Frisco. The Jags have

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Speaker 1: parted ways with head coach Doug Moron. That was this

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Speaker 1: just about an hour and a half after that happened

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Speaker 1: around ten thirty today. So now the GM and the

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Speaker 1: head coach jobs are open. We've touched on the head

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Speaker 1: coaching opportunity and a lot of the same ideas, I'm

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Speaker 1: sure Pete. In the GM world, we saw a lot

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Speaker 1: of early names and then we didn't see many names

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Speaker 1: last week or um. It felt like, you know, they

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Speaker 1: were interviewing some of the people that were outside the building,

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Speaker 1: outside the league at the moment, to get those at

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Speaker 1: least done before they can go onto the list of

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Speaker 1: people I'm sure they have that is in the National

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Speaker 1: Football League, Pete. That's probably how this is working well. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I think it has a lot to do with

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Speaker 1: if you hired somebody like Urban Meyer, you gotta hire

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Speaker 1: somebody that he knows to work with them, and that's

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Speaker 1: I think that's the way that's gonna go. If it's

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Speaker 1: UM somebody else, you want them link together. And I've

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Speaker 1: said there's a lot of times I think Ryan Cowden

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Speaker 1: and Arthur Smith in Tennessee, Adam Peters and Robert Sala

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Speaker 1: and San Francisco, you know, Eric b Enemy and Borganzi

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Speaker 1: in you know, Kansas City. There's usually ties with these guys,

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Speaker 1: and it makes a lot of sense to try and

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Speaker 1: keep guys that know each other working together. It's clear

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Speaker 1: Shot Khan was not happy with what was going on

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Speaker 1: between head coach in front office the last couple of years.

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Speaker 1: There seems to be a major disconnect there. And if

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Speaker 1: that's the case, he wants to bring him back in.

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Speaker 1: It's better to have people that know each other and

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Speaker 1: from going with each other. Yeah, I mean, I think.

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Speaker 1: I mean the sense I get is that this is

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Speaker 1: gonna be, you know, more of a strong head coach model.

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Speaker 1: And when I say that, not that the head coach

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Speaker 1: has final saying everything and and and let me start

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Speaker 1: by saying this. If who has finals say over the

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Speaker 1: three man roster is ever an issue, then you have

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Speaker 1: the wrong people. I agree. I mean, let's just get

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Speaker 1: there because everyone's like who has who cares? Because if

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Speaker 1: you get the right people and they're aligned, you'll figure

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Speaker 1: it out and you'll be the same. But the coach

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Speaker 1: should always have control over the game day roster hound

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Speaker 1: percent their coach and the guys, I mean, give me

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Speaker 1: a break. Yes, no doubt about it. And so um

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Speaker 1: and so I think with that said, I do believe

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Speaker 1: that the head coach, whoever it is, was Urban or

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Speaker 1: one of these other fifty candidates out there. You know,

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Speaker 1: the Robert Salis, their the enemies, the you know whoever

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Speaker 1: Arthur Smith's you know, you know a Pat Fitzgerald up

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Speaker 1: in Northwestern. You know, maybe why not call Lincoln Riley

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Speaker 1: Wisconsinkahoma great offensive mind. I would too, um whoever that is.

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Speaker 1: I don't think. I'm not sure they're gonna pick the GM,

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Speaker 1: but I think shod and and who everyone else in

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Speaker 1: the process wants to make sure they're comfortable with the GM.

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Speaker 1: Like I'll go back to when the forty niners, they

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Speaker 1: were probably the first and the latest of teams have

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Speaker 1: done this, and there's been others. The Browns there last

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Speaker 1: year with Stefanski, when they hired Kyle Shanahan, they then

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Speaker 1: went out and we're interviewing gms, and they wanted to

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Speaker 1: make sure Kyle was comfortable with the GMS. And that's

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Speaker 1: how was one of the reasons that John Lynch got

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Speaker 1: the job. I mean, one, he's very capable, smart, good

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Speaker 1: football guy, but all so because of the because that

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Speaker 1: it's not like they had a deep relationship Title and John,

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Speaker 1: but they knew each other and Kyle was very comfortable

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Speaker 1: with John being the GM because they're gonna be tied together.

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Speaker 1: They both signed they when they signed their deals, they

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Speaker 1: both signed I think five or six year deals, whatever

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Speaker 1: it was. Because the messages you guys are in this together,

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Speaker 1: you win together, you lose together. Were there complete alignment?

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Speaker 1: But I do think, um, and so I think what

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Speaker 1: John said, this is gonna be done simultaneously. I think

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Speaker 1: the way I heard that kind of read, you know,

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Speaker 1: kind of reading the tea leaves a little bit, is

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Speaker 1: whoever's first? My guess is if I was guessing it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be the coach first, with a list of gms

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Speaker 1: that shot bikes and kind of getting input like what

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Speaker 1: do you think about these guys? Um, do you know

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Speaker 1: these guys? Do you know any of these could you

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Speaker 1: work with these guys? What do you think? And maybe

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Speaker 1: it goes as far as now I'm just I mean,

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Speaker 1: we're all this is all conjecture, you know, once you

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Speaker 1: hid the coach, Hey, you're our guy. Why don't you

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Speaker 1: come a conversation with these three guys? Were good with

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Speaker 1: any of these three guys, Let's see who you're comfortable with.

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Speaker 1: And that's the way it happened. And Tony, that's kind

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Speaker 1: of the way it happened with Channahan. Channi was hired

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Speaker 1: Terry McDonald Terry McDonough was going to get that job

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Speaker 1: at one point he was the second choice, and then

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Speaker 1: I think he was much more comfortable or Kyle was

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Speaker 1: more comfortable with Lynch and that's why he got the job.

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Speaker 1: Brandon Bean got the job in Buffalo. That's a perfect example. Now, McDermott, Well,

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Speaker 1: the UH in Cleveland, they hired Stefanskie first and then

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Speaker 1: UH Andrew Berry because stefanski was comfortable with it. They

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Speaker 1: got along, they saw the same they saw it the

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Speaker 1: same way, and then they hired him as the gym.

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Speaker 1: And so forget the timing because I don't know which

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Speaker 1: is gonna come first. And I'm not saying it even

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Speaker 1: matters as much. But the bomb line is, I think

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Speaker 1: what Shaw saying is he wants to make sure those

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Speaker 1: two guys aren't together their alignment. Well, what what these

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Speaker 1: guys are all showing now is the old model of

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Speaker 1: general manager gets hired and then he hires whoever that

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Speaker 1: he wants a coach is kind of passe a little bit. Now,

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Speaker 1: It's not the way it is all the time anymore.

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Speaker 1: Because yeah, I agree with you, Pete and I think

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Speaker 1: one of the I don't want to say dangerous, but

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Speaker 1: one of the downsides of that model is if you

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Speaker 1: do that then and you've said it before on the show,

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Speaker 1: and because you're right, gms feel like they get two

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Speaker 1: cycles of coaches, and so I guess what if it's

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Speaker 1: not working out with the first guy, it's easy to

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Speaker 1: kind of throw him under the bus, fire him, and

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Speaker 1: go get your next guy. Correct. You know what helps

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Speaker 1: is that this the new idea of thinking is also winning.

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Speaker 1: If it wasn't winning, there wouldn't be the other teams

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Speaker 1: doing it the new way. Correct. Well, but but but teams,

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Speaker 1: I mean there's teams that win. I mean the the

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers have had a GM forever and they've gone

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Speaker 1: through gms. I mean the right Tom and Kevin Colbert.

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Speaker 1: And here's the other thing. It works both ways. But

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Speaker 1: Tony's right. It makes it a lot easier to blow

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Speaker 1: them all out if you stink after three years. Because

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Speaker 1: you look at Thomas Demetrov hired two coaches in Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: It Smitty and he had he had Dan Quinn and

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Speaker 1: then he stayed, Smitty went, then they both went the

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Speaker 1: second time and that's usually the way it is. You

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Speaker 1: get two coaches, but when you come in together, there's

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Speaker 1: gonna be nobody to They're all gonna be playing, so

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Speaker 1: they're all get out And I like that better sad

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Speaker 1: because like you go first of all, the only way

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Speaker 1: it works if the GM and the head coach are

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Speaker 1: on the same page, like any petty in fighting about

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Speaker 1: this guy. And the worst thing you can have again,

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Speaker 1: in my opinion, is where you have the personnel guys,

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Speaker 1: the GM and scout is trying to be coaches and saying, oh,

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Speaker 1: You guys got this the wrong guy. When everyone has

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Speaker 1: let's figure it out together. And the other thing about

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Speaker 1: program since the All State Sugar Bowl the other night.

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Speaker 1: Pete Trevor Lawrence for Clemson. Justin fields through six touchdown

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Speaker 1: passes for Ohio State in that game and showed a

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Speaker 1: shot up, and and then playing through some things and

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Speaker 1: really put together a big performance. You said earlier, you're

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Speaker 1: still on Trevor Lawrence one thousand percent. But what did

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Speaker 1: Fields do for you the other night in New Orleans? Well,

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Speaker 1: I like what I saw was this toughness. I mean,

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888
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Speaker 1: stood in there and he made throws. But I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: look at it from a more practical standpoint. Clemson can't

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Speaker 1: And on the other side, Clemson's offensive line can't protect

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Speaker 1: the passer. Trevor Lawrence got beat up good in that

893
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Speaker 1: game too. I don't know why they run him so much.

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Speaker 1: And the other thing is he threw for four dred

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Speaker 1: yards and you would have thought he was twelve of

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Speaker 1: fifty bird eighty the way people were talking. He's the

897
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Speaker 1: clear cut number one pick. And by the way, I'm

898
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Speaker 1: not sure sure Zack Wilson is not going to go

899
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Speaker 1: ahead of of Justin Fields and give Fields credit. He

900
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Speaker 1: did a really nice job. But if you to put

901
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Speaker 1: those two on different teams, on each of the other teams,

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Speaker 1: it would have been Lawrence that would have had the

903
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Speaker 1: big day, the monster day, and not Field. So and

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Speaker 1: here's the other thing, everybody's putting into one game, putting

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Speaker 1: all video. Look at Fields, he had two really bad games.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't good in a big Den championship game, and

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Speaker 1: he was horrible against Indiana, two of the better teams

908
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Speaker 1: he played this year. So, um, we'll see this week.

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Speaker 1: Next week when he plays Alabama on Monday night, we'll

910
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Speaker 1: see what he can do. I'm sure that defense thinks too.

911
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Speaker 1: You'll probably light them up as well. But he's not

912
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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, and for anybody to try and make the

913
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Speaker 1: claim that he is is ridiculous. And Jaguard Van's got

914
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Speaker 1: their wish. He isn't playing another game. That could happen

915
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Speaker 1: one and done. I mean that's the best case scenario.

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Speaker 1: I mean, so here's the thing. There's no doubt that

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Speaker 1: Justin Fields had a better game. I mean he looked

918
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Speaker 1: like the better quarterback on the field for that one night. Um,

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Speaker 1: and Twitter went crazy. He's saying, oh, there's a question,

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Speaker 1: you know, And I thought, Pete, you bouncing back and

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Speaker 1: forth against people. Um, it's one game. You go back

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Speaker 1: in pizza, you look at the two previous games before

923
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Speaker 1: that Field was not very good at all, And I

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Speaker 1: think you have to look at the total body of work. UM,

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Speaker 1: and I think clearly, in my opinion, and I don't

926
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Speaker 1: want to watch a lot more film on them that

927
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Speaker 1: right now, Trevor Lawrence is clearly the number is the

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Speaker 1: guy above Justin Field and the pizzas point on Zach Wilson.

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Speaker 1: There's a I've heard in multiple places now multiple people

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931
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of work that needs to be done.

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Speaker 1: And I think as you approach this process, whoever had

933
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934
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Speaker 1: discipline yourself to go in with an open mind and

935
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Speaker 1: basically starting all of them at ground zero and go

936
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Speaker 1: let the film go, Let the combine go, let the

937
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Speaker 1: interviews go, Let the personal workout days determine who you

938
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Speaker 1: feel like it is the best quarterback. UM. I do

939
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Speaker 1: think it's dangerous going in and saying, well, Trevor Lawrence

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Speaker 1: is the guy, you know, he's our guy. I don't

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Speaker 1: think you can do that. I think you really have

942
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Speaker 1: to have the discipline to start from ground zero on

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Speaker 1: this process with the quarterback. Well, I'll do it. He's

944
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Speaker 1: the guy because if he's if he's been the guy

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Speaker 1: for three years already. Then how is one or two

946
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Speaker 1: games going to change that. It's not. You're missing my point, JP.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying any games. I'm not saying that the

948
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Speaker 1: game changed anything for how I feel about Trevor Lawrence.

949
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Speaker 1: My point is they're gonna play a national title game.

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Speaker 1: Justin fields is Zach Wilson and Trevor Lawrence are done

951
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Speaker 1: right at the end of it. Now the job of

952
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Speaker 1: the GM and the personnel department and probably the coach

953
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Speaker 1: because this big decision. You need to go start watching

954
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Speaker 1: tape of all these guys, and you need to go

955
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Speaker 1: watch as many games as you can get your hands on,

956
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Speaker 1: and you need to be prepped and going in. And

957
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Speaker 1: then you go into the combine and you need to

958
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Speaker 1: have your list of questions and what you want to do,

959
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Speaker 1: and you need to sit down with each of them

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Speaker 1: and get them on the board, and then you need

961
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Speaker 1: to go watch and throw. Now, they probably none of

962
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Speaker 1: them will probably throw at the combines, that's fine, But

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Speaker 1: then you're gonna go have their pro day and you

964
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Speaker 1: need to go sit there and watch how they perform there,

965
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Speaker 1: and then you need to go in and start doing

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Speaker 1: My point is you have to start from uh a

971
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Speaker 1: level of playing field for all of them. When you

972
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973
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Speaker 1: level playing field, the level playing fields and played out

974
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Speaker 1: over three games at eight level over three seasons, it's

975
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Speaker 1: not level. It starts with the feat. I think you're right,

976
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Speaker 1: you're missing the point. I'm not I understand you're saying, Okay,

977
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Speaker 1: so let's go and you put Lawrence on the board

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Speaker 1: and um, and he's good on the board. But you

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980
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Speaker 1: friends or star you know what I mean. I'm not

981
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Speaker 1: saying all. I'm not saying all the metrics are weighted evenly.

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Speaker 1: Obviously the way take right now, what would possibly do

983
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984
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985
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Speaker 1: Based on what I know, I've not watched one tape

986
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987
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Speaker 1: him play on TV and stuff. No, I haven't. I

988
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989
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Speaker 1: there's no competition between the two of them. So I mean,

990
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Speaker 1: I think I agree with you. I'm just saying you

991
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995
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996
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997
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Speaker 1: But Ryan Leaf came out hot, and I remember hearing

998
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999
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Speaker 1: Ryan leave. By the way, he won't ever admit that,

1002
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 1: but he was. I know that he was. But again,

1003
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Speaker 1: you're talking about two guys that ended up being very

1004
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Speaker 1: close with This process is almost over in terms of

1005
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Speaker 1: if Justin Fields goes and throws for five fifty next

1007
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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence is the better player put on the entire

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Speaker 1: next week they might still lose the National Championship Game

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Speaker 1: and abdication, I think is an important point. Uh And

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Speaker 1: certainly I found that in the last whatever fifteen months,

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00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 1: having that, you know, necessitates the conversation you're part of

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Speaker 1: conversation with the GM and the head coach. So being

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Speaker 1: part of that here, you know, for the immediate future,

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Speaker 1: I think it's important to me. We're back maybe Jaguar's

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Speaker 1: Happy Hour, the second hour of the program. That's Jaguar's

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Speaker 1: owner shot Com discussing his role in the affairs of

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Speaker 1: the football side coming up. I used the owner of

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Speaker 1: the football team, and that's how it's gonna be. The

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Speaker 1: GM and the head coach will report directly to him

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01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:33,400
Speaker 1: separately moving ahead. The process of finding out who those

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Speaker 1: two will be is certainly already underway. Big newsday today,

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01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:42,120
Speaker 1: of course, head coach Doug Yes, sorry, but doesn't it

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Speaker 1: sound like he feels like he was left out of

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Speaker 1: the loop. It does kind of feel that way if

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Speaker 1: you just kind of hear his tone a little bit,

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Speaker 1: you know, Yeah, definitely not not anymore. Won't be the

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Speaker 1: case moving ahead if he but that's for sure, of course,

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Speaker 1: this morning, Doug marone like it was the head coach.

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Speaker 1: After four seasons plus two games, they lost fifteen straight

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Speaker 1: to lose to the longest losing streak and franchise history,

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Speaker 1: and finished one in fifteen this year. So both jobs

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Speaker 1: are open now. General manager and head coach. And there

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01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:18,760
Speaker 1: are some more names being linked and being requested as

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Speaker 1: reported as requested by the Jaguars coming out. Robert Salo

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Speaker 1: was one of those just moments ago that we saw

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Speaker 1: pop up as a name that could be linked to

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars head coaching opening that they wanted permission to

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Speaker 1: speak with. Arthur Smith, and Tennessee another one of those pete.

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Speaker 1: So we're seeing more and more of these names. It's

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Speaker 1: expected on a day like today when Mr con today

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01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 1: said that they were about to put that list in

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Speaker 1: uh this morning of requests, and those are two guys

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Speaker 1: they should talk to. Those are two very good football coaches.

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Speaker 1: And I said that we know Robert Sali, he was around.

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Speaker 1: It's a good coach, he's got the past, he thought

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Speaker 1: I did a great job this year. And I think

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Speaker 1: he'd be a heck of a head coach. Arthur Smith,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but I've called around the people and

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01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 1: checked on him and everybody I trusted this league for

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Speaker 1: a long time vouch for him. Highly works his butt off, smart,

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Speaker 1: relates to the players, understands what it takes. I think

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Speaker 1: he would be another guy. I think both sla and

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Speaker 1: Arthur Smith are legitimate candidates along with Eric b enemy Um.

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Speaker 1: You know I would talk to I would talk to

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Speaker 1: Brian Dable. If you have a young quarterback coming in

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Speaker 1: who's going to be a big, powerful thrower of the football,

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Speaker 1: why not go talk to Brian Dable. Look what he

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01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:35,920
Speaker 1: did with Josh and Allen. Look at that offense. They're

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Speaker 1: playing the best football of anybody in the league right now.

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Speaker 1: And that guy is this entire game? How long has been?

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Speaker 1: What is it now? Three became with a Dermott, he

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Speaker 1: came with and so is it? Is it success? There?

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Speaker 1: Is it devil? I mean? Or is it Josh Allen

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Speaker 1: the quarterback coach and when he's doing on his own

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Speaker 1: as well outside the building and also to all of it. Yeah,

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01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. And let's not forget they added

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Speaker 1: two key pieces this year with Stefon Diggs and Cole Beasley,

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Speaker 1: but they all well Beasley was there last year. But

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Speaker 1: they also they also do this though, don't you They

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01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:22,520
Speaker 1: They dictate tempo and I think that's where Dable gets.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's not a good coach, Pete. I'm

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Speaker 1: just saying I always I worry about just going after

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Speaker 1: the hot coordinator, because being a good coordinator does not

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Speaker 1: mean you're a good head coach. And I don't know

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Speaker 1: Stable at all. I don't either. I would interview him,

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Speaker 1: By the way, I'm with you there, I don't know

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Speaker 1: Arthur Schmidt. I would interview him because he's I've heard

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Speaker 1: good things about him as well. And I and and

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Speaker 1: I know is the head coach, Mike Grabel. And you're

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Speaker 1: a Mike Grabel stat You're a football guy. There's no

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01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 1: doubt about that. UM. I do know Robert sol I

1155
01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:56,960
Speaker 1: think he'll be a great head coach. I really do.

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Speaker 1: I think he has to make up to do it.

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Speaker 1: I would interview him. UM. I would also probably interview

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Speaker 1: Eric the enemy he's come from one that he's been

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Speaker 1: under Andy Reid. A lot of the Andy Reids have had,

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Speaker 1: guys have had success in the NFL. He's one of

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Speaker 1: the better head coaches. He's and he's a grooms guys

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Speaker 1: and mentors guys, and I think in a pretty interesting

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Speaker 1: way because they have had success other places and a

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Speaker 1: dynamic offensive mind. And so I had interview Eric Bamy

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Speaker 1: as well. UM, And I you know, I like, I

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Speaker 1: think you should have interview Erwin Meyer, I would probably

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Speaker 1: if you're gonna go to college, Rinks, I would take

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Speaker 1: up the phone and see from Lincoln. Riley is interested

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Speaker 1: because I think he's a really good young head coach,

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Speaker 1: offensive minded and had success. There's drawbacks of getting a

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Speaker 1: college guy because he doesn't know the NFL game, doesn't

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Speaker 1: know that maybe the right staff to get together and

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Speaker 1: everything else. So there are downside risk of that too.

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Speaker 1: Um but those are all good names to go look

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Speaker 1: into it. But you know what, Tony, A lot of

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Speaker 1: these young coaches that get jobs the first time, they

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Speaker 1: don't get the right staff. You look at Zach Taylor,

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Speaker 1: he's already happened to make changes on his staff. You

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Speaker 1: look at he's being forced to make those changes. You

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01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:01,520
Speaker 1: look at what John mcveiye did. He went to a

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl and then he fired Wade Phillips and brought

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Speaker 1: in in both the new offensive coordinator, defensive coordinator, and

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01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 1: special teams coordinator. So sometimes young coaches don't get the

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01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:15,280
Speaker 1: staff that they need to have right away, a large

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01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:18,800
Speaker 1: part because they can't and because they don't know yet.

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01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:20,960
Speaker 1: And I think that's important to learn too. So if

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Speaker 1: you're talking about a college coach Yeah, he's not gonna

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01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:27,480
Speaker 1: have NFL guys, but he's familiar with it. He might

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Speaker 1: have to make a change after a couple of years.

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Speaker 1: But again, if you get the right guy, it all

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01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:34,800
Speaker 1: like the Rams have the right guy and Sean McVeigh.

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Speaker 1: It took they went to the super Bowl, but it

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Speaker 1: took him to realize that maybe he can only get

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01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:42,200
Speaker 1: so far with Wade Phillips. I thought it was a

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01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:44,960
Speaker 1: crazy move, but look at their defense now. It's been

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Speaker 1: really good with that new defensive coordinator. So I think

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01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 1: it makes sense sometimes to go get the right head coach.

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Speaker 1: I talked to Lincoln Riley. I'd call Matt Campbell, I'd

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Speaker 1: call Pat Fitzgerald. I'd call all those guys and talk

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Speaker 1: to him. Yeah, I don't think earth at all. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is the time to do it. I mean this

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01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 1: is and shot said it today. There's they're gonna cast

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01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:09,160
Speaker 1: cast the wide net and do all their due diligence

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01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 1: they can and make sure they have the right guys

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01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:13,440
Speaker 1: in here. So you know what I would do to JP. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'd bring them all in and I picked the hell

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Speaker 1: out of their brains. And then once I didn't hire,

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Speaker 1: how about this, we got this from that during our interview.

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01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:24,960
Speaker 1: There's some good ideas here. I'd want to hear everything

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Speaker 1: that they had to tell me. If you know, when

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Speaker 1: a coach comes when a coach comes in for an interview,

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Speaker 1: he should have pull out his envelope and have his

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Speaker 1: entire three coaching staffs already there. This is who I

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Speaker 1: would hire, is my coordinator. If I can't get him,

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Speaker 1: here's number two. If I can't get him, here's number three.

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Speaker 1: Same with it all the way down, every position down.

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Speaker 1: And then you know what if you while you're doing

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Speaker 1: your interviews and he say, hey, everybody had this wide

1219
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:53,320
Speaker 1: receiver coach, why don't we go get him? When you

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Speaker 1: get the guy who's hired. So, I think you can

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Speaker 1: learn and and glean information off of those interviews as well.

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Speaker 1: Everybody will have a plan, right, everybody should have. I

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Speaker 1: would keep I would by the way, I would put

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Speaker 1: if I'm shot, con in that building, because that staff

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01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:12,959
Speaker 1: is getting blown out too. Let's not forget. I would

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Speaker 1: consider Joe D. Camillis to stay around as my special

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Speaker 1: teams coach, and I would consider keeping Keenan. I think

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Speaker 1: I think both those guys are good enough that they

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Speaker 1: could warrant being on somebody else's staff. All the assistance

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01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:29,680
Speaker 1: are still on then deals right now, But the new

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01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:32,200
Speaker 1: head coach will make that decision. Yes, I get it,

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Speaker 1: but I would I would try and if I'm a

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Speaker 1: new coach coming in. I think Keenan has done a

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Speaker 1: good job with the wide receivers. I think that Jodi

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Speaker 1: Camillis has been a long time successful special teams coach

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Speaker 1: in this league. No, I think I think Joe d

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01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:48,080
Speaker 1: is one of the best questions could I mean, go

1238
01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:49,840
Speaker 1: look at around the league. I mean the way they

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01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:51,880
Speaker 1: perform and what he gets out of his guys. I

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Speaker 1: think he's one of the best coordinators in all football. Uh.

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01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 1: And I do think Keith has done a good job.

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01:07:57,240 --> 01:07:58,720
Speaker 1: You know, ob me some piots with Kenny is a

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01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:01,560
Speaker 1: former teammate, think kylie him. So um, I do think

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Speaker 1: he's done a good job of that group. Alright, g

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Speaker 1: M interviews go ahead, Pete. Sorry, you know, by the way,

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01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:10,240
Speaker 1: I loved it after the game yesterday Kean and talking

1247
01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:18,040
Speaker 1: to Philip Rivers former teammates, he's pretty amazing. How many

1248
01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:20,760
Speaker 1: many years is he have left? Did you watch that

1249
01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:23,000
Speaker 1: game yesterday? Yeah, that's throw in the middle of the

1250
01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:25,560
Speaker 1: field that wingered picked off. Oh my god, but he

1251
01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:27,479
Speaker 1: just had some of his bulls and he does not

1252
01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:30,479
Speaker 1: get much zip on that ball anymore, does not the

1253
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:32,439
Speaker 1: deep out, he doesn't. But he's smart enough to know

1254
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:35,320
Speaker 1: where to go with it. Hell, he can still make plays.

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01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:39,080
Speaker 1: They struggled yesterday. Man. Yeah, it also helps when you

1256
01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:43,160
Speaker 1: run for two d seventy yards, that does help. That

1257
01:08:43,280 --> 01:08:45,960
Speaker 1: creates makes it a much easier game. But with all

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01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:49,920
Speaker 1: those yards, I mean it was game with five minutes left.

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Speaker 1: It's almost like they went they went dormant for you

1260
01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:55,360
Speaker 1: know how sometimes you get a big lead, you go dormant.

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Speaker 1: They went dormant, and they looked up and they go, oh,

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Speaker 1: don't you think. I don't know what happened. But they

1263
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:03,519
Speaker 1: struggled the whole second half. They couldn't move the ball,

1264
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Speaker 1: they couldn't do anything. I mean, they got the big

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Speaker 1: playout of Jonathan Taylor to make a four team, but

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Speaker 1: outside of that, they did nothing. Do you uh? This

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Speaker 1: of James Robinson, but he ended up with more yards. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: more yards for what would you take oho, that's close.

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Speaker 1: That looked like the Taylor was good yesterday. He's been

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Speaker 1: I forget what his forty times was. But he plays

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Speaker 1: he was like a four four guy at the combine. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but I mean he's not Fred Taylor speed though. Fred's

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Speaker 1: four three two. But don't you remember four to eight.

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Speaker 1: I think it's four to nine. Yeah, like insane at

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Speaker 1: two thirty. Yeah, Jonathan Taylor four three nine. Yeah, Taylor

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Speaker 1: that's a good looking back and and uh and he

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Speaker 1: doesn't have that. He doesn't have the lateral movement that

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Speaker 1: Fred had. No, No, he doesn't have the speed that Fred.

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Speaker 1: How about this. By the way, we'll get to the

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Speaker 1: league of the playoffs and all that a little bit later.

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Speaker 1: But all time in the NFL, there were what thirteen

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Speaker 1: two fifty yard plus rushing days all time? There were

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Speaker 1: none in the same season until yesterday when there were two.

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Speaker 1: Derrick Henry and Jonathan Taylor both went over to fifty

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Speaker 1: yesterday and both against US. Well yesterday you want to

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Speaker 1: He in the m v P conversation, but he's in

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Speaker 1: and did it big in week seventeen. Good stuff. So

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Speaker 1: let's not good because it's in the division, but good

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Speaker 1: If Pete and Tony will put in charge of the

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Speaker 1: GM head coach search, what qualifications are most important to

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Speaker 1: new year? Hm, Tony so um so as a head coach?

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Speaker 1: What so? Just one? It's hard to say one quality

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Speaker 1: for qualification because I think it narrows it like you

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Speaker 1: could say, oh, you have to have head coaching experience

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Speaker 1: in the past. Well, that doesn't always guarantee that, you know,

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Speaker 1: success in the future. There's been plenty. Uh. If that

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Speaker 1: was the RAMS plotsophy, you wouldn't have got Sean McVeigh.

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Speaker 1: Who is that you know is one of the better

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Speaker 1: young head coaches in all four Matt Lao or Sean McDermott.

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Speaker 1: That's right, so um, I think you have to So

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Speaker 1: if you're talking about qualifications. I'm not sure is it

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Speaker 1: personality type, is it stal Is there anything? Because there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of styles that have that have won in

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Speaker 1: the NFL and different philosophies, and so it's if I'm

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Speaker 1: looking at I think you've got to have a feel

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Speaker 1: that and it's hard for me to really quantify what

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Speaker 1: the one quality is. But I think leadership for both

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Speaker 1: positions are the most important to me. Can you lead

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Speaker 1: an organization? Can you lead a team? And what does

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Speaker 1: that mean? So then you have to start diving into

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Speaker 1: what are the characteristics that you want out of these individuals.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's it's around, um. You know,

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Speaker 1: you want to make sure you got somebody who has

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Speaker 1: some integrity meeting what they say and what they believe

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Speaker 1: is played out in their overall lives and how they

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Speaker 1: treat people and everything else. I think that's critical. Um.

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Speaker 1: I think they have to be able to command respect.

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Speaker 1: They go into a room and you and you all

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Speaker 1: and we all know these people. I mean you've all

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Speaker 1: seen him. When the individuals walk in the room, they

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Speaker 1: they just there's something about them that you say, this

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Speaker 1: guy or this gal is a leader and people are

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Speaker 1: gonna follow them. I think you know, you want to understand. UM.

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Speaker 1: I do think one of the qualities of the head coach,

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Speaker 1: I want to make sure they have to have a

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Speaker 1: clear plan on the offensive side of the ball of

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Speaker 1: how they're going to develop the quarterback and what does

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Speaker 1: that look like and what is their philosophy around that.

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Speaker 1: I think that's also critical. But you know, if you

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Speaker 1: just if it's just one quality or one qualification, I

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Speaker 1: don't think there was a qualification because, um, if you

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Speaker 1: look at like UM scouts, they've been successful at organizations

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Speaker 1: and we're really good. I mean, I'm I don't wanna

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Speaker 1: take a shot at Dave Carbo, but Dave Carlbo was

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Speaker 1: at Atlanta and they had a lot of success. He

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Speaker 1: worked on BILLI Polian, who's as a Hall of Fame

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Speaker 1: GM and it didn't work out. There's a qualification of

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Speaker 1: being around somebody or on around somebody grades who's done it,

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Speaker 1: or a great organization. Is that a qualification that makes sense?

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Speaker 1: I don't think so. It's a leadership to me is

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Speaker 1: the number one qualification you have to hire a leader

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Speaker 1: because if you look at both of these roles, the

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Speaker 1: head coach is more about just xs and os and

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Speaker 1: That's why I think urban Meyer is a real good

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Speaker 1: is a candidate you can take seriously because it's not

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Speaker 1: just about um xs and os and being able to

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Speaker 1: draw on the board. If you're a head coach, now

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Speaker 1: as a coordinator to be able to better be able

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Speaker 1: to do that, but the head coach, you'd better be

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Speaker 1: able to lead an organization. You're better be able to

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Speaker 1: manage people, you better be able to organize them, you

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Speaker 1: better be able to get them on the same page

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Speaker 1: going in the same direction. UM and the same with

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Speaker 1: the GM, because there's just because you're a good a

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Speaker 1: scout and good uh identifying personnel or evaluating personnel, that

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Speaker 1: doesn't mean you're gonna be a good GM. We've seen

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Speaker 1: countless scouts to a very successful where they were and

1443
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Speaker 1: just fail miserably as GM. Why is it because they

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Speaker 1: don't have the leadership to lead a team or an organization.

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Speaker 1: And that is critical. That's the difference in any business

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Speaker 1: where the difference between an individual contributor who is outstanding

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Speaker 1: at what they do, whether it's the sales or whatever,

1448
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Speaker 1: doesn't always translate to be the best manager or leader

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Speaker 1: of a team because they don't have those those qualities

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Speaker 1: I agree, and I put it in the different terms

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Speaker 1: than leadership. I'll put it in terms of if you're

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Speaker 1: going to hire a coach, he's got to be able

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Speaker 1: to come into a room and take grown men and

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Speaker 1: treat them as grown men, but also be able to

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Speaker 1: instill discipline and a work ethic. And that's the fine line.

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Speaker 1: We've seen many a coach, the guy I know well

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Speaker 1: in your building came in there and they go too

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Speaker 1: far at first, and then it can become fractured and

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Speaker 1: frayed and you have to kind of pull it back together.

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Speaker 1: I think that's the toughest challenge for any coach in

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Speaker 1: the NFL, is to be able to come in and

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Speaker 1: instill discipline, because you don't you don't want to have problems,

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Speaker 1: So you instill the discipline, the work ethic, and yet

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Speaker 1: you still get the treat them like grown men. And

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Speaker 1: that's a hard fine line to straddle. And Tony, you've

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Speaker 1: been around it. You know, tom that thing was coming

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Speaker 1: on glued there early in his career there in Jacksonville.

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Speaker 1: It was coming on glued in in New York. But

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Speaker 1: he was smart enough to kind of pull it back in.

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Speaker 1: If you could start that way and get in there.

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Speaker 1: Same thing. By the way, Brian Flores in Miami, early

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Speaker 1: in his tenure in Miami, that's was coming on glued

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01:21:01,360 --> 01:21:03,400
Speaker 1: a little bit. It was being it was, you know,

1474
01:21:04,040 --> 01:21:06,760
Speaker 1: but he brought it back in. Ideally, you got to

1475
01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:09,439
Speaker 1: be able to treat grown men as men and yet

1476
01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:14,519
Speaker 1: still instill discipline and a work ethic. Show up, do

1477
01:21:14,720 --> 01:21:17,880
Speaker 1: your damn job, do it the best your ability, stay

1478
01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:22,720
Speaker 1: out of trouble, and I will treat you with respects well.

1479
01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:25,200
Speaker 1: And I think one of the things, especially with today's players,

1480
01:21:25,240 --> 01:21:26,680
Speaker 1: I think it's always been like this. I think it's

1481
01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:29,599
Speaker 1: call of humanity has been like this, but today's players,

1482
01:21:29,680 --> 01:21:31,519
Speaker 1: especially with this generation, you have to be able to

1483
01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:34,120
Speaker 1: build a relationship with players. Because if you don't have

1484
01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:36,400
Speaker 1: a relationship with your players and they don't believe you

1485
01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:39,639
Speaker 1: care about them, then they don't care about what you say,

1486
01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:43,400
Speaker 1: and that is critical. And so that's all about relationships.

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01:21:43,400 --> 01:21:45,839
Speaker 1: So you better have a leader who has the ability

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01:21:45,960 --> 01:21:49,920
Speaker 1: to understand today's player, which is about relationship. The pizza,

1489
01:21:50,080 --> 01:21:53,919
Speaker 1: It's about respect, giving respect, receiving respect. It's about instilling

1490
01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:58,840
Speaker 1: au a set of standards and keeping everyone accountable to that.

1491
01:21:59,120 --> 01:22:00,280
Speaker 1: But the way to do that you have to be

1492
01:22:00,280 --> 01:22:04,160
Speaker 1: a relationships because people care much less about what you say,

1493
01:22:05,560 --> 01:22:08,000
Speaker 1: much more about what you do and how you make

1494
01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:11,559
Speaker 1: them feel and what and so that is so important.

1495
01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:13,879
Speaker 1: And I think you've seen it here. We've seen players,

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01:22:14,520 --> 01:22:18,160
Speaker 1: top end players that they lost because they didn't want

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01:22:18,200 --> 01:22:20,439
Speaker 1: to be here anymore. And I think a lot of

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01:22:20,479 --> 01:22:23,960
Speaker 1: that is about relationship and all those relationships. To maintain

1499
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:25,719
Speaker 1: those relationships because you'll get more out of your players.

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01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:29,519
Speaker 1: And I mean, this is the day is no longer

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01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:31,640
Speaker 1: here where you can just dictate the players do this

1502
01:22:31,960 --> 01:22:37,759
Speaker 1: or else and nitpicky stupid rules that have no bearing

1503
01:22:37,800 --> 01:22:40,519
Speaker 1: on whether you're win or lose. That that stuff is

1504
01:22:41,080 --> 01:22:45,639
Speaker 1: outdated and our kay, but the rule that will never

1505
01:22:45,800 --> 01:22:49,000
Speaker 1: die no matter who the coaches is, show up, be

1506
01:22:49,160 --> 01:22:52,160
Speaker 1: on time, do your damn work, and stay the hell

1507
01:22:52,160 --> 01:22:55,280
Speaker 1: out of trouble. That's the most important thing. Come. If

1508
01:22:55,320 --> 01:22:57,680
Speaker 1: you come into my building, and Tony used to get

1509
01:22:57,680 --> 01:23:00,280
Speaker 1: there what six o'clock to start today? When used to

1510
01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:02,160
Speaker 1: go in there on a on a on a Wednesday.

1511
01:23:02,640 --> 01:23:05,080
Speaker 1: You are there from six until when you walk out

1512
01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:08,760
Speaker 1: at what six probably on a Wednesday. You better do

1513
01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:11,080
Speaker 1: your work the entire time and work and know what

1514
01:23:11,200 --> 01:23:13,920
Speaker 1: you're doing, and do the work off the field to

1515
01:23:14,080 --> 01:23:16,840
Speaker 1: be able to do your work on a Wednesday. That's

1516
01:23:16,840 --> 01:23:18,600
Speaker 1: all I want from you. If you give me that,

1517
01:23:18,680 --> 01:23:21,679
Speaker 1: and you give me a you are, you know your playbook,

1518
01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:23,200
Speaker 1: and you work and you stay out of trouble, I'm

1519
01:23:23,200 --> 01:23:26,040
Speaker 1: gonna treat you with the utmost respect. I'm gonna treat

1520
01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:28,439
Speaker 1: you like a grown man. Now you make a mistake,

1521
01:23:28,520 --> 01:23:30,240
Speaker 1: I might, you know, get on you a little bit

1522
01:23:30,240 --> 01:23:32,400
Speaker 1: about something. A dude you that you're a little overweight,

1523
01:23:32,560 --> 01:23:34,720
Speaker 1: and put your work in this week, whatever. But you

1524
01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:36,479
Speaker 1: have to be able to treat him with respect and

1525
01:23:36,520 --> 01:23:39,000
Speaker 1: treat him like men. And you can't go past that shot.

1526
01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:40,880
Speaker 1: Con actually hit this right on the head of the

1527
01:23:40,960 --> 01:23:42,800
Speaker 1: day and one of his answers about what he might

1528
01:23:42,840 --> 01:23:44,760
Speaker 1: be looking for in the two open positions when he's

1529
01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:47,160
Speaker 1: learned over the years and a proven leader who understands

1530
01:23:47,200 --> 01:23:49,400
Speaker 1: not only the basis of football, the blocking and tackling,

1531
01:23:49,479 --> 01:23:52,640
Speaker 1: but more importantly modern football some of the things, but

1532
01:23:52,760 --> 01:23:55,760
Speaker 1: more importantly handling the twenty one century athlete at the

1533
01:23:55,800 --> 01:23:58,479
Speaker 1: same time. That's exactly what you guys just spoke about.

1534
01:23:58,560 --> 01:24:00,559
Speaker 1: Let's get to our next question now for Matt Brandon

1535
01:24:00,600 --> 01:24:03,240
Speaker 1: Bush eight one seven. I just want to thank all

1536
01:24:03,320 --> 01:24:05,160
Speaker 1: three of you for the past few years. This show

1537
01:24:05,200 --> 01:24:07,240
Speaker 1: has been a staple of mine every Monday. This year,

1538
01:24:07,320 --> 01:24:09,920
Speaker 1: the show is especially needed to get me through the season,

1539
01:24:10,120 --> 01:24:12,479
Speaker 1: coming from a lifelong Jags fan of New York. Have

1540
01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:15,760
Speaker 1: a great offseason. Oh yeah, and go j e t

1541
01:24:16,200 --> 01:24:19,600
Speaker 1: s see he's been listening all year. That guy. He

1542
01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:23,240
Speaker 1: heard me do that in October and it worked. Look

1543
01:24:23,280 --> 01:24:28,160
Speaker 1: at you know what, though, so the way they should,

1544
01:24:28,479 --> 01:24:30,479
Speaker 1: you'll you won't have to do that for another twelve

1545
01:24:30,640 --> 01:24:36,080
Speaker 1: or fifteen years, bare minimum. No comment from Tony Okay

1546
01:24:36,200 --> 01:24:38,599
Speaker 1: next week. I hope we never have to do it again.

1547
01:24:38,600 --> 01:24:41,120
Speaker 1: I mean, this was mystical this year. Maybe maybe in

1548
01:24:41,240 --> 01:24:43,920
Speaker 1: fifteen years when Trevor Lawrence is an old, broken down man.

1549
01:24:44,040 --> 01:24:47,320
Speaker 1: Maybe Oh he's like Tom Brady, gonna play for twenty

1550
01:24:47,360 --> 01:24:50,760
Speaker 1: five years. We might be gone. I might be gone

1551
01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:56,880
Speaker 1: by then. I wasn't gonna say anything, but our next

1552
01:24:56,960 --> 01:25:00,320
Speaker 1: question at ERICI, Harrison, Caleb, and Chase on some provements

1553
01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:03,960
Speaker 1: pressuring the quarterback had been noticeable and encouraging. How is

1554
01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:06,080
Speaker 1: he looking in the run game? Seems he liking go

1555
01:25:06,240 --> 01:25:08,800
Speaker 1: Quay tries to elude the block rather than set the edge,

1556
01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:11,000
Speaker 1: and it's led to some issues. What do you see?

1557
01:25:11,160 --> 01:25:15,120
Speaker 1: Thanks for another great season, guys. I mean, listen, he

1558
01:25:15,200 --> 01:25:17,800
Speaker 1: has gotten better, there's no doubt about it. Um, But

1559
01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:21,840
Speaker 1: he's still an undersized defensive ent and I think you

1560
01:25:21,960 --> 01:25:23,960
Speaker 1: gotta you gotta figure out what what is his role?

1561
01:25:24,080 --> 01:25:29,160
Speaker 1: Where does he fit moving forward? And and the improvements

1562
01:25:29,200 --> 01:25:32,599
Speaker 1: he's made were that's good. And remember he didn't get

1563
01:25:32,600 --> 01:25:35,280
Speaker 1: an off season. He's a young player. He's you know,

1564
01:25:35,439 --> 01:25:38,160
Speaker 1: really playing a new position when you think about it.

1565
01:25:38,240 --> 01:25:40,439
Speaker 1: He was more of a kind of upstand up outside

1566
01:25:40,560 --> 01:25:43,439
Speaker 1: end linebacker position at l SHO. Now he's handed the

1567
01:25:43,560 --> 01:25:47,080
Speaker 1: third type of guy for three defensive and it's different, um,

1568
01:25:47,240 --> 01:25:50,160
Speaker 1: And so that takes time and they're gonna be patient there. Um,

1569
01:25:50,439 --> 01:25:53,240
Speaker 1: But he's still I still question is he a guy

1570
01:25:53,320 --> 01:25:54,920
Speaker 1: that you can play on first and second down? And

1571
01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:56,840
Speaker 1: if teams start running right at you, I think it's

1572
01:25:56,840 --> 01:25:59,200
Speaker 1: a problem. Well, I think he can play in first

1573
01:25:59,240 --> 01:26:02,799
Speaker 1: and second down if playing at different defense, this defense,

1574
01:26:02,880 --> 01:26:05,560
Speaker 1: he can't play on first and second down. He's not

1575
01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:09,160
Speaker 1: gonna play Tony. It's the old You've seen this playout

1576
01:26:09,280 --> 01:26:12,120
Speaker 1: years and years and years. The smallest defensive end who

1577
01:26:12,160 --> 01:26:14,519
Speaker 1: can rush the pastor gets run at and run at

1578
01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:17,519
Speaker 1: and run at. It can't happen anymore. I mean, look

1579
01:26:17,560 --> 01:26:20,519
Speaker 1: at even Okay, as great as Simeon Rice was. Remember

1580
01:26:20,560 --> 01:26:23,560
Speaker 1: back in the day in Tampa when when people ran it,

1581
01:26:23,680 --> 01:26:26,040
Speaker 1: then they ran in him. You know you did it,

1582
01:26:26,160 --> 01:26:28,120
Speaker 1: you were part of it. He could rush the pastor.

1583
01:26:28,200 --> 01:26:30,120
Speaker 1: But what it was the old Matador when it came

1584
01:26:30,160 --> 01:26:32,040
Speaker 1: to the run defense because he wasn't a big guy.

1585
01:26:32,720 --> 01:26:34,559
Speaker 1: And so I think that's a problem. Was a problem

1586
01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:38,240
Speaker 1: within Doc Way, and it's a problem with Chason. If

1587
01:26:38,320 --> 01:26:41,519
Speaker 1: you stood him up and played him on one side

1588
01:26:41,560 --> 01:26:43,639
Speaker 1: and Allan on the other, and you had some big

1589
01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:46,840
Speaker 1: bodies playing the run in front of them, then I

1590
01:26:46,960 --> 01:26:49,400
Speaker 1: think he could handle that. I think that's what he's

1591
01:26:49,439 --> 01:26:52,880
Speaker 1: more suited to that. You would you agree? I mean,

1592
01:26:53,000 --> 01:26:54,400
Speaker 1: just my name. I mean I think there's a lot

1593
01:26:54,479 --> 01:26:57,439
Speaker 1: of work. I mean, you need an offseason. Yeah, I

1594
01:26:58,160 --> 01:27:01,400
Speaker 1: get it. So but but yeah, I give him credit.

1595
01:27:01,439 --> 01:27:04,880
Speaker 1: He's worked hard, he's gotten better. Next to Leonard Williams

1596
01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:10,320
Speaker 1: will help him next year. That's a big body, that's

1597
01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:13,360
Speaker 1: a big boy. I'm calling that early. I've already remember

1598
01:27:13,400 --> 01:27:15,720
Speaker 1: I fixed the team last two weeks ago. So you're

1599
01:27:15,720 --> 01:27:18,879
Speaker 1: saying that Jets aren't gonna sign Leondard Williams. The Giants,

1600
01:27:19,360 --> 01:27:23,599
Speaker 1: I mean Giants, Sorry, the Giants over pay for him,

1601
01:27:23,680 --> 01:27:27,519
Speaker 1: pay more money than Ape, don't you get it? Get

1602
01:27:28,560 --> 01:27:34,240
Speaker 1: what is there discount for the taxes? So you don't

1603
01:27:34,240 --> 01:27:37,720
Speaker 1: think they'll franchise him, No, they might. He's played it,

1604
01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:40,719
Speaker 1: he's played that good this year. Yeah, that's the problem.

1605
01:27:40,760 --> 01:27:42,280
Speaker 1: There's not a lot of guys that big and do

1606
01:27:42,400 --> 01:27:46,599
Speaker 1: what he does. Our next question from that Jags eight five.

1607
01:27:46,680 --> 01:27:48,640
Speaker 1: How much of a priority is signing Chart to an

1608
01:27:48,680 --> 01:27:50,840
Speaker 1: extension this offseason? Or do you let him play out

1609
01:27:50,920 --> 01:27:53,639
Speaker 1: his deal and then worry about it in two Likely

1610
01:27:53,720 --> 01:27:55,760
Speaker 1: can get a better deal now with his down year,

1611
01:27:56,000 --> 01:27:59,720
Speaker 1: bad quarterback play aside, but the camp is down from

1612
01:27:59,760 --> 01:28:02,720
Speaker 1: normal seasons, which should make market value go down. What

1613
01:28:02,800 --> 01:28:06,240
Speaker 1: do you think? I want to see him with Lawrence?

1614
01:28:07,479 --> 01:28:09,920
Speaker 1: Let's see where he takes his game with Lawrence, if

1615
01:28:09,920 --> 01:28:12,680
Speaker 1: he takes his if he's what I think he can

1616
01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:17,200
Speaker 1: become with a really good quarterback. But I want to

1617
01:28:17,200 --> 01:28:19,360
Speaker 1: see it because I think it's there. But I want

1618
01:28:19,400 --> 01:28:24,640
Speaker 1: to see it, and I think, yeah, I mean, I

1619
01:28:24,720 --> 01:28:26,320
Speaker 1: think you go through free agency in the draft. Do

1620
01:28:26,320 --> 01:28:27,880
Speaker 1: you see where you're at and maybe you're start having

1621
01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:30,800
Speaker 1: conversations with him in the summer and seeing if you

1622
01:28:30,880 --> 01:28:33,280
Speaker 1: can get to a price tag that works for both sides.

1623
01:28:35,400 --> 01:28:38,320
Speaker 1: Our next and final question is from at John Gould,

1624
01:28:38,479 --> 01:28:40,960
Speaker 1: is me how important is having veterans on this team

1625
01:28:41,040 --> 01:28:43,599
Speaker 1: for this rebuild, especially with the young course first time

1626
01:28:43,640 --> 01:28:46,240
Speaker 1: with the regime change. Is it worth overpaying? Some guys

1627
01:28:46,280 --> 01:28:48,479
Speaker 1: who provide that in the locker room love the show.

1628
01:28:48,600 --> 01:28:50,680
Speaker 1: Wish y'all could do a few shows in the offseason,

1629
01:28:50,720 --> 01:28:55,920
Speaker 1: and even if only online. Do I think that it?

1630
01:28:56,240 --> 01:28:59,599
Speaker 1: Look if you get the right veterans, Look how many

1631
01:28:59,800 --> 01:29:03,040
Speaker 1: how guys here now are sticking around, it's probably I

1632
01:29:03,040 --> 01:29:05,880
Speaker 1: think they'll keep Lenda and Norwell I do. I think

1633
01:29:05,920 --> 01:29:08,479
Speaker 1: the left tackle is gone. I think he's a goodbye.

1634
01:29:09,000 --> 01:29:10,880
Speaker 1: And I think you keep the veterans on the inside.

1635
01:29:10,920 --> 01:29:13,960
Speaker 1: So there's three veterans on your offensive line now. Is

1636
01:29:14,040 --> 01:29:16,320
Speaker 1: Linda a leader? I don't know that. I'm not around

1637
01:29:16,360 --> 01:29:18,519
Speaker 1: that locker room enough to know. Is he is he

1638
01:29:18,560 --> 01:29:21,400
Speaker 1: a good leader? I know he's he can be the media.

1639
01:29:21,520 --> 01:29:24,120
Speaker 1: Some guys think he could be stand office at times.

1640
01:29:24,160 --> 01:29:25,800
Speaker 1: But he is he a good leader in the locker room.

1641
01:29:27,479 --> 01:29:30,920
Speaker 1: I haven't been in there for a long time. I

1642
01:29:30,960 --> 01:29:33,040
Speaker 1: haven't been in there this year. I know he's been

1643
01:29:33,040 --> 01:29:36,080
Speaker 1: a captain the last two or three years. So for

1644
01:29:36,360 --> 01:29:40,960
Speaker 1: what that's worth, here's the problem. Who are the defensive leaders?

1645
01:29:41,439 --> 01:29:43,559
Speaker 1: I mean, you could you always have betteran offensive one.

1646
01:29:43,640 --> 01:29:47,200
Speaker 1: Norwell and and and Linda could be veteran lead, you know,

1647
01:29:47,640 --> 01:29:50,639
Speaker 1: leaders on the offense. Who are the leaders on defense?

1648
01:29:53,320 --> 01:29:56,280
Speaker 1: I think only two, only two guys that stand out

1649
01:29:56,360 --> 01:30:01,040
Speaker 1: right now we Miles Jack, Joe Schober h Allen. But

1650
01:30:01,200 --> 01:30:04,479
Speaker 1: he's only what third year, and he's been hurt all

1651
01:30:04,560 --> 01:30:06,680
Speaker 1: he really only played one year. Do you think about it?

1652
01:30:07,040 --> 01:30:11,519
Speaker 1: M yeah, I think. Look, I know you've got a

1653
01:30:11,640 --> 01:30:14,000
Speaker 1: soft spot for Joe Schober, but I don't. I just

1654
01:30:14,160 --> 01:30:17,240
Speaker 1: think that Miles Jack has to be the guy. Did

1655
01:30:17,240 --> 01:30:22,000
Speaker 1: you see shobered on that one run? Oh? Yeah? Unfortunately?

1656
01:30:22,080 --> 01:30:25,880
Speaker 1: Did be? Unfortunately? I did? Well, you saw Taylor more

1657
01:30:25,960 --> 01:30:29,120
Speaker 1: than he did. But but my point of Shobard, he's

1658
01:30:29,120 --> 01:30:30,960
Speaker 1: gonna be your middle linebacker next year. I don't see.

1659
01:30:30,960 --> 01:30:33,200
Speaker 1: You have too many other places to fill. You're not

1660
01:30:33,240 --> 01:30:35,800
Speaker 1: gonna go spend money and effort and draft capital on

1661
01:30:35,800 --> 01:30:38,599
Speaker 1: the middle linebacker. And and he might be better if

1662
01:30:38,600 --> 01:30:42,360
Speaker 1: you have big bodies around him. That's right, all right,

1663
01:30:42,400 --> 01:30:46,280
Speaker 1: there you have it. Social questions are done for the season.

1664
01:30:46,520 --> 01:30:48,960
Speaker 1: Thank you for the submissions all year. And you guys

1665
01:30:49,000 --> 01:30:52,120
Speaker 1: didn't answer about doing the online show to keep it going.

1666
01:30:52,240 --> 01:30:54,160
Speaker 1: But well, well can we can talk about that another

1667
01:30:54,439 --> 01:30:56,760
Speaker 1: Well have We'll have to have some contract negotiations on

1668
01:30:56,840 --> 01:30:59,200
Speaker 1: that for the right money. Me and bass Elia do

1669
01:30:59,240 --> 01:31:04,400
Speaker 1: anything and it's on the internet. Anything goes. I guess

1670
01:31:04,960 --> 01:31:17,120
Speaker 1: we'll come back. Oh wow, NFL playoff picture when we

1671
01:31:17,280 --> 01:31:21,439
Speaker 1: come back. The schedule ahead on Super wild Card weekend

1672
01:31:21,479 --> 01:31:25,080
Speaker 1: in the National Football League. This is Jaguars Happy Hour

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1734
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Speaker 1: year is over. J P Shadrick Pete Prisco, Tony Boselli.

1735
01:35:14,200 --> 01:35:17,799
Speaker 1: This is the final Monday Jaguars Happy Hour of this season.

1736
01:35:18,640 --> 01:35:20,800
Speaker 1: You keep saying I'm firing you guys. I don't have

1737
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Speaker 1: any authority to do that. Will hopefully do a show

1738
01:35:23,200 --> 01:35:26,120
Speaker 1: next year if your agent will allow it. Pete, Well,

1739
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Speaker 1: I figured, you know, after you sent me the text

1740
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Speaker 1: the other day, after your dad called some people to

1741
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Speaker 1: try and get me fired. Since old man Shadrick doesn't

1742
01:35:34,960 --> 01:35:38,320
Speaker 1: think I'm funny, he's right. I mean, he knows funny

1743
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Speaker 1: and you're not. Well. If he doesn't think I'm funny,

1744
01:35:41,600 --> 01:35:45,559
Speaker 1: he doesn't know funny because, uh, your dad. We gotta

1745
01:35:45,560 --> 01:35:47,759
Speaker 1: work on your dad. I mean, he must be drier

1746
01:35:47,840 --> 01:35:54,080
Speaker 1: than the piece of milktoes. I agree, JP, I agree

1747
01:35:54,080 --> 01:35:56,880
Speaker 1: with your dad. Yeah. The only problem is you know

1748
01:35:57,040 --> 01:36:00,240
Speaker 1: you might try to agree with it. But every Monday, Yeah,

1749
01:36:00,240 --> 01:36:02,960
Speaker 1: I see you on camera, bite your tongue in the

1750
01:36:03,040 --> 01:36:05,479
Speaker 1: whole day because you don't want to get caught laughing

1751
01:36:05,600 --> 01:36:11,280
Speaker 1: at my stupid It's like, right now, no, I said funny,

1752
01:36:11,360 --> 01:36:16,519
Speaker 1: not I agree. You have plenty of around. Yeah, my

1753
01:36:17,000 --> 01:36:19,960
Speaker 1: my humor makes you laugh every Monday, and you just

1754
01:36:20,040 --> 01:36:21,519
Speaker 1: hold it in because you don't want to get You

1755
01:36:21,560 --> 01:36:24,160
Speaker 1: don't want to be accused of being guilty by associate

1756
01:36:28,479 --> 01:36:33,320
Speaker 1: right there, right there laughing but he's not laughing. That

1757
01:36:33,520 --> 01:36:35,559
Speaker 1: is so true. But you know, look, I can take

1758
01:36:35,600 --> 01:36:38,200
Speaker 1: it from Baselli. I can take it from JP. But

1759
01:36:38,320 --> 01:36:40,679
Speaker 1: he texts me and tells me, oh, man, chad Rick's

1760
01:36:40,760 --> 01:36:48,280
Speaker 1: ripping me. That's right, you know what, my dad's gonna

1761
01:36:48,320 --> 01:36:53,439
Speaker 1: beat up your dad. I doubt that highly as well.

1762
01:36:53,600 --> 01:36:59,800
Speaker 1: Let's go around the NFL playoffs, Angelo Chrisco the Mobster, Hey,

1763
01:37:00,240 --> 01:37:06,040
Speaker 1: NFL Super wild Card weekend triple headers Saturday at Sunday.

1764
01:37:06,320 --> 01:37:09,599
Speaker 1: Let's start with the a f C number seven seed Colts,

1765
01:37:10,560 --> 01:37:13,200
Speaker 1: who stuck into the playoffs, and they'll face the number

1766
01:37:13,240 --> 01:37:17,360
Speaker 1: two seed Buffalo Bills one o'clock on Saturday, Pete, and

1767
01:37:17,840 --> 01:37:21,519
Speaker 1: this should be an interesting game. If Laviscus shand All

1768
01:37:21,680 --> 01:37:24,320
Speaker 1: looked like he looked against that Colts defense, I can't

1769
01:37:24,360 --> 01:37:27,800
Speaker 1: wait to see what Diggs look. I mean, Oh, my

1770
01:37:29,120 --> 01:37:32,519
Speaker 1: Buffalo offense is explosive. Josh Allen's playing great football. I

1771
01:37:32,640 --> 01:37:35,599
Speaker 1: don't see the Colts winning that game. The one thing, though,

1772
01:37:36,680 --> 01:37:41,080
Speaker 1: Buffalo has trouble stopping the run. Do you think they

1773
01:37:41,080 --> 01:37:42,920
Speaker 1: can keep the ball out of Josh Allen's hands? I

1774
01:37:43,000 --> 01:37:45,639
Speaker 1: love that the whole idea. I always do. But once

1775
01:37:45,680 --> 01:37:47,920
Speaker 1: you look up and it's fourty nonhing, and that kind

1776
01:37:47,920 --> 01:37:51,439
Speaker 1: of goes out the window. And in a lot of situations, yeah,

1777
01:37:51,439 --> 01:37:53,519
Speaker 1: as soon as you're down big or a couple of scores,

1778
01:37:53,560 --> 01:37:55,880
Speaker 1: you're hold onto the ball and slowed the game down.

1779
01:37:56,080 --> 01:37:59,880
Speaker 1: As a I just gonna sense it's gonna be closer

1780
01:38:00,000 --> 01:38:04,679
Speaker 1: than anyone, you know, a touchdown. I think it's gonna

1781
01:38:04,680 --> 01:38:08,120
Speaker 1: be tight. Don't count the Colts. I'm definitely leaning towards

1782
01:38:08,160 --> 01:38:11,439
Speaker 1: the Bills, There's no doubt about that. But the Colts,

1783
01:38:11,720 --> 01:38:15,080
Speaker 1: you know, they've got that good defense, and they're they're

1784
01:38:15,080 --> 01:38:17,000
Speaker 1: a little bit leaky in the secondary, that had some

1785
01:38:17,080 --> 01:38:19,800
Speaker 1: injuries back there. But if they can get after Josh

1786
01:38:19,880 --> 01:38:22,080
Speaker 1: Allen rushed the passer and you have one of those

1787
01:38:22,160 --> 01:38:24,599
Speaker 1: days when the front four dominates, you know, watch out.

1788
01:38:24,720 --> 01:38:26,840
Speaker 1: I think it's interesting game. But people haven't got after.

1789
01:38:26,880 --> 01:38:29,400
Speaker 1: That's amazing thing is people aren't getting after Josh Allen,

1790
01:38:29,439 --> 01:38:32,559
Speaker 1: and when they do, he moves. No, he said, listen,

1791
01:38:32,640 --> 01:38:37,360
Speaker 1: he's playing. Is is there a quarterback playing better than

1792
01:38:37,479 --> 01:38:42,040
Speaker 1: him right now? Not named Darren Robert? He's playing the

1793
01:38:42,120 --> 01:38:46,559
Speaker 1: second best. Pete called it the second game on Saturday,

1794
01:38:46,560 --> 01:38:49,559
Speaker 1: the NFC number six seed Rams and the three seeds

1795
01:38:49,680 --> 01:38:54,160
Speaker 1: Seahawks in Seattle. Do you think now this this one's

1796
01:38:54,160 --> 01:38:56,760
Speaker 1: gonna be closer than people think This will be the

1797
01:38:56,840 --> 01:38:59,760
Speaker 1: third time they've played. The Rams won the first time.

1798
01:39:00,560 --> 01:39:03,320
Speaker 1: The Rams gagged away the second one and Golford his

1799
01:39:03,360 --> 01:39:05,680
Speaker 1: s thumb in that game, remember, but he threw an interception.

1800
01:39:06,000 --> 01:39:08,120
Speaker 1: I still don't know what he was looking at. They

1801
01:39:08,160 --> 01:39:10,519
Speaker 1: were driving to take a seven point lead in the

1802
01:39:10,600 --> 01:39:13,560
Speaker 1: second quarter, and they know him and that defense is

1803
01:39:13,600 --> 01:39:16,280
Speaker 1: good enough to contain Russell Wilson. So I think this

1804
01:39:16,400 --> 01:39:18,400
Speaker 1: one will be closed. I think Seattle will win it,

1805
01:39:18,800 --> 01:39:22,040
Speaker 1: but it'll be closed. Is golf gonna be on the

1806
01:39:22,120 --> 01:39:25,200
Speaker 1: play though? They'll steam up some stuff to get there.

1807
01:39:25,240 --> 01:39:27,439
Speaker 1: That kid John Wolford who was from jack Togo by

1808
01:39:27,479 --> 01:39:32,000
Speaker 1: the way, Yeah, he did some good things in that game.

1809
01:39:32,240 --> 01:39:33,960
Speaker 1: No he didn't. He played fine. I just don't think

1810
01:39:34,000 --> 01:39:37,280
Speaker 1: they win without golf. I'll go to Seattle. Yeah, I

1811
01:39:37,280 --> 01:39:39,240
Speaker 1: think Seattle win the game, but it's gonna be tight though.

1812
01:39:39,280 --> 01:39:45,080
Speaker 1: That defense. Yeah, they went full Duval at quarterback last

1813
01:39:45,080 --> 01:39:48,040
Speaker 1: week Walford and Blake Bortles was the backup. They signed

1814
01:39:48,120 --> 01:39:51,200
Speaker 1: him as well. Uh NFC number five seed Tampa Bay,

1815
01:39:51,360 --> 01:39:55,200
Speaker 1: the Buccaneers and the number four seed Washington football team.

1816
01:39:56,120 --> 01:39:58,919
Speaker 1: By the way, JP, I don't think Duvall claims portals

1817
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:03,320
Speaker 1: think they do. Now, I think there's a there's a

1818
01:40:03,439 --> 01:40:06,840
Speaker 1: portion of the fan base that liked to be I

1819
01:40:07,000 --> 01:40:08,800
Speaker 1: like Blake, but come on, a lot of the fan

1820
01:40:08,880 --> 01:40:12,839
Speaker 1: base do not claiming Blake. Ford will claim John Walford

1821
01:40:12,840 --> 01:40:14,719
Speaker 1: he went to high school there. But they're not hard.

1822
01:40:15,080 --> 01:40:20,799
Speaker 1: It's hard to argue with Pete Tampa Bay Washington again,

1823
01:40:21,400 --> 01:40:25,080
Speaker 1: what is Tom Brady's kryptonite over the years? Rushing the

1824
01:40:25,160 --> 01:40:32,960
Speaker 1: pastor and they have four guys who could get after Payne, Um, Alan, Alan,

1825
01:40:33,160 --> 01:40:37,840
Speaker 1: and uh and the fifth guy that comes up his

1826
01:40:37,920 --> 01:40:40,640
Speaker 1: car again he can run the ban they I mean,

1827
01:40:41,000 --> 01:40:44,559
Speaker 1: I think this is a closer game than me too.

1828
01:40:45,120 --> 01:40:48,599
Speaker 1: I mean, I think ultimately Tampa wins, but this could

1829
01:40:48,600 --> 01:40:51,120
Speaker 1: be one of those games, you know. Oh and by

1830
01:40:51,200 --> 01:40:53,200
Speaker 1: the way, the last two times and seven and nine

1831
01:40:53,240 --> 01:40:56,640
Speaker 1: team made the playoffs, guess what they both won? Their

1832
01:40:56,800 --> 01:41:00,400
Speaker 1: opening game beast Quake was a seven and nine teams Seattle,

1833
01:41:00,479 --> 01:41:03,800
Speaker 1: remember they were And I do think and I do

1834
01:41:04,000 --> 01:41:06,600
Speaker 1: think if Mike Evans is not there, that changes the

1835
01:41:06,720 --> 01:41:09,920
Speaker 1: dynamic of that offense a little bit as well. So yeah,

1836
01:41:10,000 --> 01:41:11,840
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be closed. I think Camp will

1837
01:41:12,800 --> 01:41:17,479
Speaker 1: pull a really close one out. Let's move to Sunday

1838
01:41:17,720 --> 01:41:19,760
Speaker 1: and a couple of a f C games starting at

1839
01:41:19,800 --> 01:41:22,400
Speaker 1: one oh five Eastern, the five seed Ravens and the

1840
01:41:22,520 --> 01:41:27,840
Speaker 1: four seed Tennessee Titans. Interesting. I don't think this is

1841
01:41:27,880 --> 01:41:31,559
Speaker 1: who the Titans wanted to play. I think there's gonna

1842
01:41:31,600 --> 01:41:34,720
Speaker 1: be five thousand yards of rushing on from the game.

1843
01:41:36,360 --> 01:41:38,320
Speaker 1: The game, the game will be over. And you know

1844
01:41:38,439 --> 01:41:40,439
Speaker 1: we said that a couple of weeks ago with Cleveland

1845
01:41:40,479 --> 01:41:43,000
Speaker 1: played Tennessee. The game will be over in two hours

1846
01:41:43,040 --> 01:41:44,920
Speaker 1: and thirty minutes. It was one of the highest free

1847
01:41:45,000 --> 01:41:48,200
Speaker 1: games of the year. So but I'm with you, Tony.

1848
01:41:48,200 --> 01:41:49,880
Speaker 1: I think that both teams want to run the ball,

1849
01:41:49,960 --> 01:41:52,439
Speaker 1: and run the ball and run the ball. It's question

1850
01:41:52,720 --> 01:41:55,360
Speaker 1: who stops who. And there's a little bit of revenge here.

1851
01:41:55,840 --> 01:41:59,960
Speaker 1: Remember what happened last year in Baltimore. They've knocked him out.

1852
01:42:00,439 --> 01:42:02,080
Speaker 1: I think the Ravens win the game. I think the

1853
01:42:02,200 --> 01:42:05,280
Speaker 1: Ravens have writed a lot of their problems. I think

1854
01:42:05,320 --> 01:42:07,479
Speaker 1: they'll find a way to win this game. I think

1855
01:42:07,479 --> 01:42:09,559
Speaker 1: the Ravens win to I just don't think you win

1856
01:42:09,600 --> 01:42:11,479
Speaker 1: in the playoffs when you're that bad on defense, and

1857
01:42:11,520 --> 01:42:13,840
Speaker 1: the Titans are just terrible on defense. Oh my god,

1858
01:42:14,160 --> 01:42:17,360
Speaker 1: it's just you know, they score late and you just

1859
01:42:17,520 --> 01:42:19,360
Speaker 1: sit there and go, Okay, here goes to Shaun Watson.

1860
01:42:19,400 --> 01:42:21,040
Speaker 1: He's going to get the type field go No matter

1861
01:42:21,080 --> 01:42:25,280
Speaker 1: what I mean, they're they're awf on defense in the NFC.

1862
01:42:25,520 --> 01:42:29,160
Speaker 1: The middle game on Sunday at the seven seed Bears

1863
01:42:29,280 --> 01:42:35,960
Speaker 1: and the number two seed Saints. Uh, it's Camara Alvan

1864
01:42:36,000 --> 01:42:38,720
Speaker 1: Kamara gonna play that big for them. But well it's

1865
01:42:38,760 --> 01:42:43,640
Speaker 1: on Sunday. That should help, right, Yeah, but again, I

1866
01:42:43,680 --> 01:42:45,720
Speaker 1: don't know that. If something tells me this game might

1867
01:42:45,760 --> 01:42:50,200
Speaker 1: be a little sticky too, do you think. I don't

1868
01:42:50,240 --> 01:42:52,479
Speaker 1: know why, but I do. Yeah. The Bears defense, and

1869
01:42:52,960 --> 01:42:55,000
Speaker 1: I don't think Drew Brees has been great this year.

1870
01:42:55,760 --> 01:42:57,320
Speaker 1: I think this is it for Drew Brees too. I

1871
01:42:57,320 --> 01:42:59,000
Speaker 1: think this is his last year. I don't think he

1872
01:42:59,080 --> 01:43:01,960
Speaker 1: said it. He said there's a report he's done. Yeah, yeah,

1873
01:43:02,040 --> 01:43:04,720
Speaker 1: I think he's done. But I mean, but that's been

1874
01:43:05,400 --> 01:43:08,160
Speaker 1: a lot of speculation for the entire year. Um, it's

1875
01:43:08,160 --> 01:43:13,519
Speaker 1: starting to get more legs. Um. Yeah, I think I

1876
01:43:13,720 --> 01:43:18,679
Speaker 1: think the you know, both have good defenses, so call

1877
01:43:18,760 --> 01:43:23,280
Speaker 1: that a wash. Um. I'm assuming Alvin Kamara plays. And

1878
01:43:23,360 --> 01:43:25,360
Speaker 1: then you go down to which quarterback. Are you gonna

1879
01:43:25,360 --> 01:43:29,599
Speaker 1: trust more Drew Brees or Mitchell to risky trust? Yeah,

1880
01:43:29,640 --> 01:43:32,680
Speaker 1: I'll go with the st but it might not be

1881
01:43:32,800 --> 01:43:35,760
Speaker 1: as it might be closer. That might be another one

1882
01:43:35,840 --> 01:43:38,280
Speaker 1: where it's closer to you. You think I think it's

1883
01:43:38,320 --> 01:43:43,000
Speaker 1: a tight game. You don't convince me of that. And

1884
01:43:43,080 --> 01:43:47,519
Speaker 1: then the nightcap on Sunday eight fifteen, Sunday nights start

1885
01:43:47,680 --> 01:43:50,559
Speaker 1: for the six seed Cleveland Browns and the three seed

1886
01:43:50,640 --> 01:43:54,479
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers in the a f C. Wild will have

1887
01:43:54,560 --> 01:43:56,719
Speaker 1: to call on Westwood one. Yeah, he can't. He can't

1888
01:43:56,760 --> 01:43:59,840
Speaker 1: pick the game because he hasn't. He's a medium member.

1889
01:44:00,439 --> 01:44:05,040
Speaker 1: I've never understood that. But like why Quinn does that

1890
01:44:05,120 --> 01:44:06,559
Speaker 1: with me all the time? I have to call? I goes?

1891
01:44:06,600 --> 01:44:10,479
Speaker 1: But what you pick a pick? Who cares? No one cares,

1892
01:44:10,720 --> 01:44:13,400
Speaker 1: by the way, no one cares that you have the call, right,

1893
01:44:13,600 --> 01:44:17,600
Speaker 1: and no one cares who your pick is. Who you

1894
01:44:17,720 --> 01:44:21,800
Speaker 1: picking though? By the way, right, I'm gonna go with

1895
01:44:21,880 --> 01:44:24,720
Speaker 1: the Steelers because that defense is good. I mean they

1896
01:44:24,720 --> 01:44:27,439
Speaker 1: almost beat them without Ben Roethlisberger and a bunch of

1897
01:44:27,479 --> 01:44:31,960
Speaker 1: players t J. Watton playing. Yeah, I think the Steelers win.

1898
01:44:32,479 --> 01:44:34,599
Speaker 1: I agree, I think they went this might be one

1899
01:44:34,600 --> 01:44:36,880
Speaker 1: where they win easily too. I think they might pull

1900
01:44:37,160 --> 01:44:40,719
Speaker 1: pull away from him. I think the history is awful

1901
01:44:40,760 --> 01:44:43,360
Speaker 1: in this series for Cleveland, and I just think this

1902
01:44:43,479 --> 01:44:45,240
Speaker 1: is a tough matchup for him. So I'm with you.

1903
01:44:45,320 --> 01:44:48,240
Speaker 1: I think the Steelers win this one ten points. They

1904
01:44:48,280 --> 01:44:51,280
Speaker 1: went by ten? Was that just a for the Steelers

1905
01:44:51,320 --> 01:44:53,080
Speaker 1: at the end of the season where they had lost

1906
01:44:53,160 --> 01:44:56,320
Speaker 1: those games and couldn't do much one? But this Brown's

1907
01:44:56,360 --> 01:44:57,880
Speaker 1: team lost to the Jets a couple of weeks ago.

1908
01:44:57,960 --> 01:45:00,360
Speaker 1: I didn't have the wide receivers. But no, I think

1909
01:45:00,360 --> 01:45:02,960
Speaker 1: they win by ten. Okay, but here's the question for

1910
01:45:03,000 --> 01:45:08,200
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Somebody little run that you're not expecting. It

1911
01:45:08,280 --> 01:45:11,240
Speaker 1: happens every year. Every last year it was the Titans.

1912
01:45:11,600 --> 01:45:14,439
Speaker 1: The Jaguards did it a couple of years ago. You

1913
01:45:14,600 --> 01:45:16,479
Speaker 1: guys did it in ninety six. So I mean, every

1914
01:45:16,560 --> 01:45:18,720
Speaker 1: year there's one team that makes a run. Who's the

1915
01:45:18,760 --> 01:45:23,080
Speaker 1: team that makes the run? You know? I think, well,

1916
01:45:23,120 --> 01:45:24,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess people are expecting it, but I

1917
01:45:24,920 --> 01:45:29,559
Speaker 1: would say Buffalo number that's probably not fair. Um, anybody

1918
01:45:29,640 --> 01:45:33,920
Speaker 1: from three downs? How about Washington? You said Washington could

1919
01:45:33,920 --> 01:45:39,720
Speaker 1: beat Tampa. Now enough on offense, campam make a run

1920
01:45:39,880 --> 01:45:42,360
Speaker 1: because they I mean, they get by Washington the rest

1921
01:45:42,439 --> 01:45:45,800
Speaker 1: of the well, then they got to go to Green Bay. Yeah,

1922
01:45:45,880 --> 01:45:48,040
Speaker 1: but I think they can make a run there. They

1923
01:45:48,080 --> 01:45:51,760
Speaker 1: beat him already once this year. I just can't see

1924
01:45:51,840 --> 01:45:56,599
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, the freezing Gold against it with a night game.

1925
01:45:56,680 --> 01:45:59,439
Speaker 1: Maybe you know how he's done at nighttime. I think

1926
01:45:59,479 --> 01:46:03,760
Speaker 1: Baltimore can make a run. I'm gonna go Tampa in

1927
01:46:03,800 --> 01:46:07,240
Speaker 1: the NFC and I'm gonna go Baltimore. Remember, Pete, there

1928
01:46:07,320 --> 01:46:09,599
Speaker 1: was some weeks ago we talked about Baltimore was having

1929
01:46:09,600 --> 01:46:12,080
Speaker 1: all those COVID issues. Everything was happening. You said at

1930
01:46:12,120 --> 01:46:13,960
Speaker 1: that point, I think I'm not gonna quote you, I'm

1931
01:46:13,960 --> 01:46:17,479
Speaker 1: gonna get close. You know, Baltimore could get right. They'll

1932
01:46:17,640 --> 01:46:19,640
Speaker 1: have COVID, they'll be healthy, they'll be ready for the

1933
01:46:19,680 --> 01:46:22,920
Speaker 1: stretch run in the playoffs. And nobody nobody wanted them

1934
01:46:22,960 --> 01:46:27,160
Speaker 1: in j they were I mean nobody wants Nobody wanted

1935
01:46:27,160 --> 01:46:29,080
Speaker 1: to see them in. You would clearly have rather had

1936
01:46:29,479 --> 01:46:32,920
Speaker 1: Miami in than Baltimore. I don't think there's any question

1937
01:46:32,960 --> 01:46:36,840
Speaker 1: about that. So that's a big stretch. That's a real

1938
01:46:37,080 --> 01:46:39,760
Speaker 1: strong comment. They were fighting for the one of the

1939
01:46:39,800 --> 01:46:45,679
Speaker 1: final spots Tonty was closet. But you're saying everyone wanted

1940
01:46:46,600 --> 01:46:51,479
Speaker 1: Miami over Baltimore. No kidding. Miami is like, first of all,

1941
01:46:51,520 --> 01:46:52,960
Speaker 1: that's the whole story. We got to talk about some

1942
01:46:53,040 --> 01:46:56,840
Speaker 1: point of time today following you on Twitter. That's what

1943
01:46:57,080 --> 01:47:00,559
Speaker 1: I mean. I mean, you can't bury him this because

1944
01:47:00,560 --> 01:47:04,960
Speaker 1: people bury Josh Allen. They were wrong about that. But yeah,

1945
01:47:05,000 --> 01:47:07,639
Speaker 1: but Josh Allen was in five eleven, throwing passes into

1946
01:47:07,960 --> 01:47:10,599
Speaker 1: into the defensive line, tipping him every two seconds. Either.

1947
01:47:10,840 --> 01:47:12,840
Speaker 1: He was just a ratic at times. You could see

1948
01:47:12,880 --> 01:47:14,720
Speaker 1: the arm too. It doesn't never throw to the right

1949
01:47:14,760 --> 01:47:17,160
Speaker 1: side of the field, he doesn't throw guys open. You

1950
01:47:17,200 --> 01:47:27,720
Speaker 1: know what he is. He's a left handed minshew. Well.

1951
01:47:27,840 --> 01:47:30,559
Speaker 1: I mean, this is why I never would have taken him.

1952
01:47:30,680 --> 01:47:34,280
Speaker 1: I never understood the pick. I never understand the infatuation

1953
01:47:34,400 --> 01:47:36,240
Speaker 1: with him. I thought he was a great college player.

1954
01:47:36,240 --> 01:47:38,720
Speaker 1: I didn't see it translating in the pros. I could

1955
01:47:38,720 --> 01:47:42,640
Speaker 1: be wrong. You gotta give him time, But I mean,

1956
01:47:42,760 --> 01:47:45,160
Speaker 1: so far the early returns, I think people in Miami

1957
01:47:45,200 --> 01:47:47,760
Speaker 1: are going, can we get Herbert like we were there,

1958
01:47:47,840 --> 01:47:50,800
Speaker 1: we picked you. If you had to grade him his

1959
01:47:50,920 --> 01:47:53,280
Speaker 1: early early returns and granted he did not have an

1960
01:47:53,320 --> 01:47:56,559
Speaker 1: off season. His receivers have dropped past his name, had injuries.

1961
01:47:56,840 --> 01:47:58,880
Speaker 1: But if he had to grade him right now for

1962
01:47:58,960 --> 01:48:02,080
Speaker 1: the season, what would you give him? See, Oh, you're

1963
01:48:02,080 --> 01:48:03,519
Speaker 1: in you're a good grad. Wish I was in your

1964
01:48:03,800 --> 01:48:09,080
Speaker 1: That that's the USC classes. No, No, I'm taking everything, Pete.

1965
01:48:09,120 --> 01:48:12,280
Speaker 1: I'm taking everything into consideration. No off season, coming off

1966
01:48:12,320 --> 01:48:16,559
Speaker 1: a major injury, rookie. You know COVID, you know all

1967
01:48:16,640 --> 01:48:19,280
Speaker 1: the things I'm putting together. I give my seat. What

1968
01:48:19,400 --> 01:48:24,360
Speaker 1: do you give Herbert an A plus? Yes, like the

1969
01:48:24,479 --> 01:48:27,559
Speaker 1: highest grade you can. Yeah, you would have you would

1970
01:48:27,600 --> 01:48:31,559
Speaker 1: have taken him over over two. Yes, And then they

1971
01:48:31,600 --> 01:48:34,240
Speaker 1: said that I said that before. Yeah, it goes back

1972
01:48:34,320 --> 01:48:36,439
Speaker 1: to when and all the Miami fans are giving me

1973
01:48:36,479 --> 01:48:39,559
Speaker 1: crap on Twitter, like you said, what are your eyes? See?

1974
01:48:40,880 --> 01:48:43,519
Speaker 1: You can talk all you want. One is not like

1975
01:48:43,720 --> 01:48:47,240
Speaker 1: the other. Okay, it's just like I said, But Pete,

1976
01:48:47,280 --> 01:48:49,760
Speaker 1: I said that with him coming out of college, you

1977
01:48:49,880 --> 01:48:53,599
Speaker 1: just watch him. It's just like that's he just doesn't

1978
01:48:53,720 --> 01:48:56,120
Speaker 1: like there's nothing about him. He says like he does this,

1979
01:48:56,680 --> 01:49:01,599
Speaker 1: tell me one thing. He does great better when he's

1980
01:49:01,640 --> 01:49:05,000
Speaker 1: on the move. I'll be honest with you, I think point.

1981
01:49:06,680 --> 01:49:11,519
Speaker 1: It's not it's not like it's not he's fast. It's

1982
01:49:11,560 --> 01:49:15,000
Speaker 1: not not anticipate. He doesn't anticipate. He doesn't go to

1983
01:49:15,120 --> 01:49:17,599
Speaker 1: his progressions. Yeah, at to your point, like even when

1984
01:49:17,640 --> 01:49:19,880
Speaker 1: like Josh Allen was not very good early and the

1985
01:49:20,000 --> 01:49:22,880
Speaker 1: accuracy was a big issue. He had a rocket arm.

1986
01:49:23,120 --> 01:49:28,320
Speaker 1: He was six five. Yeah. I mean like like you

1987
01:49:28,400 --> 01:49:31,200
Speaker 1: look at like, I'm not a big Kyler Murray fan.

1988
01:49:31,240 --> 01:49:35,240
Speaker 1: I think he just he's short. He's small, That's okay.

1989
01:49:35,320 --> 01:49:38,560
Speaker 1: But Kyler Murray rocket right arm could run like the

1990
01:49:38,640 --> 01:49:43,439
Speaker 1: wind playmaker. Like I get the upside with Kyler Murray.

1991
01:49:45,520 --> 01:49:47,880
Speaker 1: I am lost with two of I never understood that

1992
01:49:47,960 --> 01:49:50,760
Speaker 1: him coming out of Alabama, Like what was like what

1993
01:49:51,520 --> 01:49:54,760
Speaker 1: outside of throwing the wide open people at Alabama? What

1994
01:49:55,160 --> 01:49:57,400
Speaker 1: was like? What trade does he have that you just

1995
01:49:57,479 --> 01:50:01,639
Speaker 1: go wow? Right, he was own the Judy Davonte Smith

1996
01:50:01,960 --> 01:50:05,720
Speaker 1: rugs and waddle. It's not bad. And they had a

1997
01:50:05,800 --> 01:50:08,840
Speaker 1: running game too. By the way, So, hey, did have

1998
01:50:08,960 --> 01:50:12,320
Speaker 1: you tweeted that yet that he's a left handed minshew, No,

1999
01:50:12,560 --> 01:50:16,639
Speaker 1: I have not. I might tweet it for you, it's

2000
01:50:16,680 --> 01:50:20,240
Speaker 1: too early to do that. You on the show. Yeah,

2001
01:50:20,439 --> 01:50:22,720
Speaker 1: but he I mean he just reminds me a lot

2002
01:50:22,800 --> 01:50:25,200
Speaker 1: of the way he plays that way, he's far less

2003
01:50:25,320 --> 01:50:28,200
Speaker 1: herky jerky in the pocket. He's not doing the ball

2004
01:50:28,439 --> 01:50:35,040
Speaker 1: thing on. If you're Miami, you're drafted third. I'm considering

2005
01:50:35,080 --> 01:50:39,960
Speaker 1: again you take Zack Wilson's there. Yes, I would consider it. Hey,

2006
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Speaker 1: a final five minutes or so in the season. J

2068
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Speaker 1: P Shadrick, Pete Frisco, Tony Boselli. This is our final

2069
01:54:26,439 --> 01:54:29,840
Speaker 1: Monday program of the season unless we can get to

2070
01:54:30,120 --> 01:54:32,400
Speaker 1: Tony and Pete's agents and figure it out. But I

2071
01:54:32,520 --> 01:54:34,680
Speaker 1: have a feeling those guys will not answer the phone,

2072
01:54:36,440 --> 01:54:42,440
Speaker 1: well they would answer. Might not last long. But this

2073
01:54:42,640 --> 01:54:44,760
Speaker 1: is a fun show, obviously, This is uh, you know,

2074
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Speaker 1: obviously a fun a fun day to recap what happened

2075
01:54:47,680 --> 01:54:51,520
Speaker 1: on Sunday. But unfortunately this year for the Jaguars, most

2076
01:54:51,720 --> 01:54:55,280
Speaker 1: Sundays were not happy. Sunday's fifteen in a row. In

2077
01:54:55,440 --> 01:54:58,200
Speaker 1: fact too in the regular season at one and fifteen.

2078
01:54:59,040 --> 01:55:03,960
Speaker 1: But Pete, as you noted, throughout the season. It was

2079
01:55:04,040 --> 01:55:05,720
Speaker 1: all worth it. In the end, the Jaguars have the

2080
01:55:05,800 --> 01:55:07,760
Speaker 1: number one overall pick. We'll find out if it's all

2081
01:55:07,800 --> 01:55:10,280
Speaker 1: worth it, obviously in a few years, but it will

2082
01:55:10,280 --> 01:55:12,280
Speaker 1: be worth it. It will be worth it. But that

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Speaker 1: was the goal at least for you, was to get

2084
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Speaker 1: that picked. Jaguars did that, and I don't want to

2085
01:55:16,920 --> 01:55:21,360
Speaker 1: go through this ever again. It was horrible. I will

2086
01:55:21,400 --> 01:55:24,440
Speaker 1: say this. There were days in early November when we

2087
01:55:24,600 --> 01:55:27,200
Speaker 1: come in here and it would be the same show

2088
01:55:27,680 --> 01:55:34,120
Speaker 1: every Monday, every single week. Yeah, but we we did

2089
01:55:34,440 --> 01:55:37,080
Speaker 1: have fun with it and we found a way two

2090
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Speaker 1: start looking ahead to the draft, which Basselli always hated,

2091
01:55:41,360 --> 01:55:44,440
Speaker 1: and it worked out that they ended up with the

2092
01:55:44,520 --> 01:55:48,000
Speaker 1: number one overall pick. And this might be the biggest

2093
01:55:48,120 --> 01:55:52,520
Speaker 1: season off season in terms of optimism that this franchise

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Speaker 1: has had in but twenty years. I mean, it's as

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Speaker 1: much excitement since I can remember since what There was

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Speaker 1: still excitement after the loss of the Super Bowl. It

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Speaker 1: waned quickly in the following year, but there was and

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Speaker 1: now this is that same type of optimism. I bet

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Speaker 1: people are called about buying tickets already. You know, Trevor

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Speaker 1: Larrence will have a number sixteen Jersey probably and and

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Speaker 1: it will be a top seller. And now you've got

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Speaker 1: to get the right guy to lead the team. And

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Speaker 1: that's why I think the optimism is warranted in that city.

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Speaker 1: It's it's finally gonna have a franchise quarterback that they

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Speaker 1: drafted and developed. It's been a long time. You can

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Speaker 1: argue it has never happened around It never happened Mark

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Speaker 1: was Mark was acquired in a trade. It never drafted

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Speaker 1: developed the quarterback. Who's the franchise quarterback? Ever, how many

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Speaker 1: teams can say that? Not many, not many? Um. But now,

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Speaker 1: of course there is a bright future with that, and

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Speaker 1: the head coach and GM hirings are on deck. We'll

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Speaker 1: see what happens in the next few days, week or two,

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Speaker 1: depending on the timing. But the wheels are in motion, Tony, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean here we go. I mean, you know, we'll

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Speaker 1: find out a lot. I mean, it's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: whole different world here in the next thirty days. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it can happen as fast as next week. If they

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Speaker 1: go through it, they find their guy and it can

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Speaker 1: be done um. Or it can take through the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: We've seen teams name their coach after the Super Bowl. UM,

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Speaker 1: and so it could be. And once we find that out,

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Speaker 1: then you really find out the direction of this franchise

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Speaker 1: from the standpoint of who you're gonna be. Because obviously

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Speaker 1: the owner is a critical piece of its shots team.

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Speaker 1: He's the owner, he's the ultimate leader of the of

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Speaker 1: the organization. But really the culture in that building on

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Speaker 1: the football side will be dictated by the head coach

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Speaker 1: in the GM. Who you are, what kind of players

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Speaker 1: you gonna get, what the standard is, you know, you know,

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Speaker 1: the direction, the philosophy, all those things. Right now, we

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Speaker 1: don't have one. Do you think about it. It's it's

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Speaker 1: a blank sheet of paper, and whoever comes in they're

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Speaker 1: gonna be dictating that. And uh, I know all of

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Speaker 1: us and all the fans are kind of sitting back

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Speaker 1: and waiting to see what directions we go follow. Whoever

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Speaker 1: does get the job, follow my plan, you will have success.

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Speaker 1: Follow my plan. Leonard Williams, Trey Andrickson, Rondel Moore, a

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Speaker 1: tight end, left tackle, uh and draft well with the

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Speaker 1: rest of those positions. You will have a successful football team.

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Speaker 1: It's that simple. And by the way, final thought here,

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Speaker 1: the NFL got through two fifty six regular seasons. They

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Speaker 1: got them all in the tribute to a the league

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Speaker 1: be the owners who spent a lot of money to

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Speaker 1: safeguard those facilities and make everything work, and first and

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Speaker 1: foremost the players. The players bought in and they deserve

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Speaker 1: a lot of credit as well. It's remarkable. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if we were honest with each other when we kicked

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Speaker 1: the show off at the beginning of the year, did

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Speaker 1: any of us think we get every game in and

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Speaker 1: now seventeen weeks. I know, I thought we'd get him

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Speaker 1: in ultimately, but I thought you'd have eighteen nineteen twenty weeks.

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Speaker 1: The super will be pushed back. It's unreal and one

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Speaker 1: of the great things that's come out of this. We

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Speaker 1: might see Tuesday and Wednesday football going for look out

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Speaker 1: scheduled disruptions ahead. It sounds like, Hey, it's been a

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Speaker 1: pleasure again. Guys, Tony Pete, we'll talk to you down

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Speaker 1: the line here in the off season. Guys, All right, guys,

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Speaker 1: all right, Tony Boselli, Pete Prisco out of here thanks

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Speaker 1: to Joe Fortunado not with us right now. He'll be

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Speaker 1: back very soon. Brent Reebert Trimpad and Max Hawkman, our

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Speaker 1: entire Jaguars Digital crew. I'm J. P. Shadrick. Thank you

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Speaker 1: for listening and watching each Monday's Jaguars Happy Hour on

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars Digital Network