1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve camera. 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you welcome to Stuff You Should Know? 3 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: From House Stuff Works dot Com? Hey, and welcome to 4 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: the podcast. I'm Josh Clark with me as always as 5 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 1: Charles W. Chuck Bryant and uh, that would make this 6 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: stuff you should know? Yes, the stuff they don't want 7 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 1: you to know. Addition, yeah, kind of whoa, They're sorry everybody. Um, sorry, Chuck, 8 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 1: we should apologize for cutting in like this. 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It's just cool. 26 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: Want to go and chuck south By Southwest reminds me 27 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: of something else that will conclude our national tour, which 28 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: we're kicking off here in Atlanta on October. Yes, we 29 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 1: are having like we did in New York, We're having 30 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: an all star trivia event here in Atlanta oct then 31 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: five or six other secret to be named later cities. Right. Yes, 32 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: we're gonna be all over the place. We're gonna be 33 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: touring the country playing people in trivia, having a good time. 34 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: It'll be fun. It'll be during the week kind of 35 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: break up that that week day were not any kind 36 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: of thing, probably Wednesdays or something. I think over the 37 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: next well up until March. Between now and March, so 38 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: keep an eye out, because um, we actually did spread 39 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: it out geographically as much as we could to get 40 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: as many people there as possible. Details will follow and 41 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a lot of fun. Okay, that's it, right. 42 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, back to our regularly scheduled program. Let's avoid 43 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: the whole conspiracy thing. I don't even think we should 44 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 1: bring up any conspiracies. Sorry, it's gonna happen. Yeah, it's 45 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,839 Speaker 1: a little a little difficult to talk about Freemasons, which 46 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 1: is what we're talking about today, without talking conspiracy, and 47 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: for good reason too. Um. They are one of the 48 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: more secretive orders ever created. What we just talked about, 49 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 1: Like brick and stone work the whole time. You gotta 50 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:52,679 Speaker 1: get the proper mixture and you gotta get the trial 51 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: just right. I know how to make a mixed mud 52 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: is what it's called mortar. Yeah, it's I can. I 53 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 1: can whip up a pretty good batch of bit. Man, 54 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: you built a fire pit, right I did. I've built um, walkways, walls, 55 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 1: all sorts of stuff. I guess you could call me 56 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: a mason, butt chuck. That would be a rough mason, 57 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: not a Freemason, which is the big distinction that we'll 58 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:19,959 Speaker 1: get to eventually. Right, But first, let's talk about what's 59 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: going down in Boise, Idaho. Right now, I have no 60 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: idea what's going on there. Well, I can tell you 61 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: there's a guy named Crispin her Tongue, and he was 62 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 1: summoned to Boise Lodge number two, ancient Free and accepted 63 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: Masons of the Grand Lodge of Idaho, basically to explain 64 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: himself for going ahead and founding another lodge called the 65 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: Practice Lodge, which is considered a modern lodge, and the 66 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: brothers at um the Boise Lodge number two wanted to 67 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: know why he had done this because it basically flies 68 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: in the face of the tenants of Freemasonry, at least 69 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: as far as the York or no Scottish right Mason rigos, 70 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: which I guess is what most American lodges are, right, Yeah, 71 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: because they were from England. The Scottish right is England 72 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: and the other one is French, right, right, So this 73 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: guy's this. The Practice Lodge is aligned with the Grand 74 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: Orient of France and basically that they don't require that 75 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 1: there be volume of sacred Law present as part of 76 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: the indispensable part of the furniture of the lodge. On quoting. Uh, 77 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: this Practice Lodge allows discussion of religion in politics. Yeah, 78 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: you're not supposed to do that. No, and um it. 79 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 1: It doesn't require that members believe in a supreme being, 80 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: so he just he's not a Mason. No, he was, 81 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,239 Speaker 1: and he went and founded a practice lodge, a secular lodge. 82 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: The guy's a secular humanist. And he was excommunicated, expelled 83 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: from the Boise Lodge number two. Did they burn his bowels? 84 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 1: They didn't because he didn't share any secrets. But this 85 00:04:56,680 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 1: kind of stuff actually gives you a glimpse of you know, 86 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: what the Masons are all about, Chuck so it. They 87 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 1: are a very secret secret order, but they over time, 88 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: like little things have come out. Um in this article 89 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: will reveal the name of God. Um the secret word 90 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: that gets you to like the next level after the 91 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 1: third degree. There's all sorts of like it's it's the 92 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 1: least secret secretive order as far as you know, I 93 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: would think they would have changed this stuff if you can, 94 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 1: like read these secret passwords on our website. Wouldn't have 95 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: changed it by now? Well, but think about it. I mean, like, 96 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 1: are you going to change God's name? You can't. It's 97 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: just kind of like and yeah, everything you've heard is true. 98 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: This is this is God's names. You're glad you made 99 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: it to the fourth degree. Now, so let's talk about 100 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 1: the history of the Mason's right. There's a lot of 101 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: competing theories of where the Masons came from. Yeah, that 102 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: they range from once we won't talk about as much, 103 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: like ancient druids or the isis Osiris cult in ancient 104 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: Egypt to um, my favorite story, and this one I 105 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: think holds a little bit of credence for sure because 106 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,919 Speaker 1: they still part of their rituals involved the story. So 107 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: it seems like it might be the way or else 108 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: they just selected the story and they're sticking with it. Yeah. 109 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: Maybe so. Uh, way back in the day, King Solomon's 110 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: Temple in nine seven b c. Was built in Jerusalem, 111 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 1: and uh, there was a master builder, a master mason 112 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: name here, I'm a beef who claimed to know the 113 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: secret to the temple, because you've gotta have a secret 114 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: if you're gonna build a temple or temple. And uh, 115 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: three men kidnapped him one day, threaten to kill him 116 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 1: if he didn't reveal the secret. He apparently said, no way, 117 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do that, so he was promptly killed. 118 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 1: And then King Solomon heard about this and ordered some 119 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: masons and these were Stonemasons at the time. You know, 120 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: it's regular Stonemasons was before the whole Freemason thing, right, 121 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. Well, that's where I'm going with and uh, 122 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: he said bring his body back here and bring back 123 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: the secret of the temple. Did not work. So he says, well, 124 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna establish a new secret. And 125 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 1: here it is, and here it is. It is Maha bone. 126 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,359 Speaker 1: That's the secret. The secret is a word, and the 127 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: word mahabone means the grand Lodge door opened. The secret 128 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: um is the password that they used to enter the 129 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: third degree of masonry. So if you were thinking, I'd 130 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: like to become a Mason, but I want to start 131 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: out at the third level. I don't want to become 132 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: an apprentice, right, just go ahead and go into a 133 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: Masonic lodge and say maha bone and they'll be like 134 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: I would say mahabon a and they would like, uh, yeah, 135 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: you mispronounced it, or you just leave the h out. 136 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: It would be like, so, um, that is the that's 137 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: the that's the party line of the Mason's um of 138 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: where they came from. Uh. Probably the more likely explanation 139 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: is the um boring. Right. I think it's kind of 140 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: interesting though. I like it because most of the teas 141 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: are crossed and the eyes are dotted. But um, in 142 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: the Middle Ages, masons were a well, there were two kinds, 143 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: like we said, there were rough masons like me just 144 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: jerk soon you how to mix mud together and could 145 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: you know, work with stone that was pretty tough to 146 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: screw up because they were so big. Or there were 147 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: free craft mason's stonemasons or freemasons, um, that worked with 148 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: intricate carvings and soft stone. Free stone is like the 149 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 1: soft stone that that you can actually carved designs into. 150 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: And it took some serious skill, right, So to protect 151 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: their wages, to make sure that they were differentiated in 152 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 1: the minds of employers like the church or right, um, 153 00:08:53,840 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: they they initiated trade guilds, right exactly. Um. These trade 154 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: guilds founded lodges where they stored their tools, their secret tools, 155 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 1: and there they ate and basically hung out together. And 156 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: then after a while they just went the extra mile 157 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:14,719 Speaker 1: and said, you know what, Um, I want to make 158 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 1: sure that there's no rough masons at our at our lodge, 159 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: so we're gonna come up with secret handshakes, passwords, that 160 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: kind of stuff. Yeah, and there the Masons were born. Yeah, 161 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: and that that one makes sense too. Uh, And then 162 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 1: we can't talk about any of us without talking about 163 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: the Knights Templar for a second, because we've gotten railed 164 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: about the Knights Templar with the Friday thirteenth show. Yeah, 165 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 1: we have, so, for goodness sakes, the Knights Templar is 166 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 1: another theory, and um, the deal there was the Knights Templar. 167 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: There were monks that basically guarded a passage from Jaffa 168 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 1: to Jerusalem to protect Christians on their way, and they 169 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: were pretty rough apparently, and they at one point discovered 170 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: King Solomon's uh witches in the temple. They're like, there's 171 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:04,959 Speaker 1: the real secret. Yeah, and it was apparently the biggest, 172 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: you know, stock of cash. It was probably just dollar bills, 173 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: is my guests, and they took it all and King Philip, 174 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: what is that the fourth of France said, arrest all 175 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: those dudes so I can get their money that they 176 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: just stole. And they were imprisoned and then it's a 177 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: bit of a mystery of what happens. But one theory 178 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 1: is that after they were released from prison, they went 179 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: into hiding and emerged as freemasons later on. Right, That's 180 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 1: one theory that's just yet another theory. And um, King 181 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 1: Philip the fourth may or may not have had them 182 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 1: arrested on a Friday. Oh was that the deal? So chuck. Um, 183 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: there's a couple of theories and probably the likeliest theory 184 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 1: of where Freemasons came about. Um, we know that modern Freemasons, 185 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: we can trace their history pretty pretty well. Yeah. Um. 186 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 1: Over time, you know, we've got these miss Onic lodges 187 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: and they're just kind of hanging out and it's really 188 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: like a trade guild. Um, and only what are called 189 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: operative Masons could join. Yeah, that's literally people who were Stonemasons, right. Um. 190 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: The thing was these these um free stone Masons or 191 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: Freemasons kind of fancy themselves. Like I think they cultivated 192 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: their intellectualism as if way to further separate themselves from 193 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: rough Masons. And so they started like having discourse at 194 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:33,559 Speaker 1: these lodges and talking and they developed they're so smart, 195 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: they developed a philosophy, right. Um. And one of the 196 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: one of the big I guess tenets of Freemasonry is 197 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: religious tolerance. Right. Yeah. While being they were very liberal 198 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: religiously speaking, they didn't like the hardcore Catholic rules and 199 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 1: later on I think, well, a couple of things happened. 200 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 1: Catholics were for forbidden to join Freemasons at one point 201 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: by one of the popes, right, and then I think 202 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 1: that went away. And then at one point they were 203 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: accused of not allowing Catholics and as a Freemason, but 204 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: they said that's not true either, right um. And again 205 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: we saw that in that thing that's going down in 206 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:16,439 Speaker 1: Boise right now that you um that to be like 207 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 1: as a typical Masonic lodge, you have to have a 208 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: sacred volume. But in keeping with that religious tolerance idea um. 209 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 1: There it can be any thing like the Koran. It 210 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 1: can be the the Jewish Old Testament, the Talmud right um, 211 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: or the New Testament, the Bible um. But you have 212 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,679 Speaker 1: to believe in a supreme being. That's that's another major 213 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: tenant of freemasonry. Um. The thing is is it wasn't 214 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:48,719 Speaker 1: necessarily like the Christian God, and the idea of religious 215 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 1: tolerance of believing in what's called the Grand architect um 216 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: that definitely jibes with Enlightenment thoughts. So these Masonic lodges 217 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 1: where like you had to be a Mason who could 218 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: carve into stone, started attracting people who were basically tourists, yeah, 219 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: like artists and aristocrats. All of a sudden there was 220 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: this cool club and they says, well, I want to 221 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,559 Speaker 1: be a Mason because you guys get together and you're 222 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: all smart, and you talk about stuff that's neat and secret. 223 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: And so they started letting in uh, speculative instead of 224 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 1: operative Freemasons. They started letting in speculative Freemasons, and and 225 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 1: speculative with as a word as a word yes, And 226 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 1: it became basically like the fraternity gentleman's type of club 227 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 1: that it is today. Right, that was like the beginnings 228 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: of that gentleman's club is a well, gentleman is the 229 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: operative word, because, um, the Freemasons have never allowed women 230 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:51,719 Speaker 1: in except in some very very unique circumstances. Um. There 231 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 1: was one, famously, a woman named Elizabeth Aldworth who was 232 00:13:56,760 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: called eavesdropping on a Masonic um, I guess discussion or whatever, 233 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: and um, they found her and said, okay, you can join, 234 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: so they inducted her. I think it was one of 235 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: those deals where like, well, gosh, she knows the deal now, right, 236 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: but the the I guess the I don't know if 237 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: funny is the right word, but The reason that they 238 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: gave for not um admitting women was they were afraid 239 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: that women were going to distract the guys from their intellectualism. 240 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: Sure's clearly a division of the higher self and the 241 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: lower self, and they associated the lower self with women. 242 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: And then secondly, um that women were too gossipy and 243 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: would reveal their secrets. Right, and apparently Elizabeth would like 244 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: go around town after that wearing her her Masonic clothes, 245 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: her apron, her apron. Really, that's what I heard. I 246 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: just told me, like word on the street. Um, chuck, 247 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: go ahead, Well, I was just I should mention officially. 248 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: In seventy three, their constitution was written by a Scott 249 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: Scott his freemason named James Anderson almost at Alexander and 250 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: he uh. This was basically the first official set of 251 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: like laws and rituals and stuff. So that's in place 252 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: in right, and five years prior to that, four Masonic 253 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: lodges in London combined to form the first Grand Lodge, 254 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 1: and that tradition has been followed in the States. There's 255 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: typically one Grand Lodge in a state, and you gotta 256 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: answer to that lodge, right, especially if you start a 257 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: secular lodge, right, we should mention quickly to though, since 258 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: you mentioned the female member, there are a couple of 259 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: sort of spinoffs that are all females called one's called 260 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: the Order of the Amaranth and one's called the Order 261 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: of the Eastern Star, and those are for the ladies. 262 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: Do you want to get all of Masonic right? So, Chuck, 263 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: let's talk about American Freemasonry. Yeah, why not? So like 264 00:15:56,200 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: we said that the whole Enlightenment movement really became fond 265 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: of the um ideas of Freemasonry. And you know, there's 266 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: there's a lot of um uh conspiracy theory about whether 267 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: or not you know, America was founded by Mason's and yes, 268 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 1: it indeed was, to which a large degree for sure. 269 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: George Washington, you could make a case that he helped 270 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: found America. He was a Mason, Benjamin Franklin Mason UM 271 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: and several other guys who signed the Constitution and the 272 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: Declaration of Independence, and ten of them signed the articles officially. 273 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: So it's some people say it's one of the miss 274 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: that like everybody that was signed the Constitution was a Mason. 275 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: Not true, no, but enough where that you can't say 276 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: they had a real hand in in shaping the United 277 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: States and actually, um, like the dollar bill, the pyramid 278 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: with the eye above it is about as Masonic as 279 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: it gets. The Mason's love their symbology. UM. And I 280 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: read an explanation in um U S News and World Report, 281 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 1: which means it's true by a guy who has written 282 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: about UM well mysticism in America UH named Mitch Horowitz, right, 283 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 1: and he basically explained that what this, what the unfinished 284 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:18,679 Speaker 1: pyramid with the eye floating over it means is you know, 285 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: we are as humans are capable of great acts of 286 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:26,479 Speaker 1: of engineering and technology, and probably you could extend that 287 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 1: to you know, kindness and generosity, UM. But we couldn't 288 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:35,679 Speaker 1: finish anything unless um it's blessed by Providence, which is 289 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: represented by this ie. So it's a hopeful symbol in 290 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: that just pyramid will eventually be finished, We will eventually 291 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: be successful because Providence winks upon us. That's one explanation. 292 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: I'm sure there's like five million other explanations that include 293 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:58,400 Speaker 1: everything from like the Nazis to um caligula. But that's 294 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:02,360 Speaker 1: that's what I understand. That means in Nazistic khaliyah. That's 295 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 1: pretty wide range. The point is, though, is that there 296 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: there is a Masonic symbol on our dollar bill. Yeah, 297 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: which makes me wonder if the Knights Templar found the 298 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:15,959 Speaker 1: dollar bills at this Temple of Solomon. Maybe maybe they 299 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: got that. That's so that all the singles, they're like, 300 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: let's make it rain all it makes sense. Uh. There's 301 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: also a theory that they were, um, some Masons were 302 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 1: had actually organized the Boston Tea Party and the French Revolution. Yeah, 303 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 1: at the St. Andrew's Lodge in Boston. And there's a 304 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: couple of reasons they point to. One is that they 305 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:37,919 Speaker 1: did not meet the night of the Boston Tea Party, 306 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 1: and then there was some letter t on one of 307 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 1: their scrolls, and that's sort of been called out as 308 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: maybe there were some there, maybe there weren't. But amazingly, 309 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 1: the Boston Tea Party has still remained a secret to 310 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: this day, like all those dudes wore secrecy and with 311 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: a dent verification cannot happen at this time. It sounds 312 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: pretty Masonic. Yeah, true. So Um, after the American Revolution, 313 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 1: the successful Masonic overthrow of the British rule, Um, basically 314 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 1: the American Mason said, hey, you know we were under 315 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: your the purview of the provincial lodge. We gotta go there, 316 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: we can't. We gotta make a clean break with everything here, 317 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 1: including masonry. So they formed their own official lodges in 318 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 1: in the United States and it kind of took off. Um. 319 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:33,199 Speaker 1: In America. You've got the York right and the Scottish right, 320 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 1: and the York like you said, is French, and the 321 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 1: Scottish Rite follows the English traditions. Um. And apparently the 322 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: French tradition is the one that's secular. Uh, Scottish tradition. 323 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,919 Speaker 1: You have to have that sacred volume and in a 324 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 1: belief in a supreme being. Um. And you can't talk 325 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 1: about religion or politics under the Scottish Rite, right. Yeah, 326 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 1: and we had Scottish Rite hospital here too. I never 327 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: really thought about that until I read this. Yeah. I 328 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: think in the Shriners as well. That's an other example 329 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 1: of UM of their Mason's. Yeah, that was kind of 330 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:07,479 Speaker 1: an offshoot of Mason's that Shriners with their fun little 331 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: cars that they drive around in. Um. So, Chuck, let's 332 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: talk about religion, right, Okay. A lot of people think 333 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: that it is a that that freemasonry is religion in 334 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 1: and of itself. Probably not true. Yeah, I mean they 335 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: say this is what I don't get. They say that 336 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 1: you have to believe in God under the Scottish Rite. Well, yeah, 337 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: that's the first question they ask you when you get in, 338 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,400 Speaker 1: you know, in your little ceremony there. But if you're 339 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 1: if you're following a Scottish rite exactly. But then they also, 340 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 1: on the other hand say, but we're not even allowed 341 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 1: to talk about religion in our meetings, right, So what's 342 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: going on there? Um? I don't know. I think it's 343 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,919 Speaker 1: probably like one of those things where they just figured 344 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 1: out pretty early on after having held meetings for centuries 345 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: that they're like, wow, you just can't bring up religion 346 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,439 Speaker 1: and politics. That ticks everybody off. Believe me, don't go 347 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 1: their friend right. They also, um, don't follow the traditional 348 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:13,679 Speaker 1: um Judeo Christian view of God as a supreme being 349 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 1: necessarily because they call God the great architect of the universe, 350 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: which actually sounds pretty day is to me a right 351 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: good um. But again, you have to believe in God. 352 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:31,959 Speaker 1: You can't talk about it, but you have to swear 353 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: an oath upon a sacred sacred volume right or book 354 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 1: of the sacred Law, which could be a Koran at 355 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: the Townward or the New Testament. Yeah, they're kind of 356 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 1: open minded to an extent, as long as you believe 357 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 1: in God, as long as you tell any secrets, because 358 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: we'll burn your bowels. Right. So, if you want to 359 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:54,160 Speaker 1: become a Mason, right, and you you have picked up that, 360 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: you've said that your bowels maybe burned if you give 361 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 1: away secrets. You've come to terms with that. You want 362 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: to enter the brotherhood, what do you do? Well, you 363 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: have to be sponsored. You have to fill out your application. 364 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:09,199 Speaker 1: Basically you gotta get two sponsors from the same lodge 365 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: to say, you know, to vouch for you. I guess. 366 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 1: Then you're voted on, voted in by a secret ballot. 367 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: Um you're asked whether or not you believe in God, 368 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: and you have to answer yes. Imagine if you say no, 369 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,919 Speaker 1: then they'll just say it's probably isn't the place for you. 370 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 1: Then they'll point you to the French Orient. And you 371 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 1: have to have a little bit of money. I mean, 372 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 1: you don't have to be rich, but you have to 373 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: pay the dues and keep your dues up like any club. 374 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 1: And you're expected to be um philanthropic too. And if 375 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,479 Speaker 1: you don't take part in that stuff is probably frowned upon. 376 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: So you gotta have a little bit of money, right, 377 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: and um, once you are accepted, you start out as 378 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: an inner apprentice and you're initiated, right, Yeah, this is 379 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 1: this is pretty fun. And they do they they have 380 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 1: to you have to tell the story of the King 381 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 1: Solomon's temple and um, Hiram abiff and and basically you 382 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:04,159 Speaker 1: acted out, you act out this tradition in blindfold, and 383 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 1: then you are you are Hiram a brief or abe 384 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,880 Speaker 1: and you were murdered and you pretend like you're dead 385 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: and you're reborn and you're a mason. Now, yeah, I'm 386 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 1: really curious about this, you know, the artistically way they 387 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 1: give you there. Yeah. And and also I can't I 388 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 1: can't get the image of slacks out of my head. 389 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 1: Like there's some guys wearing the clothes that he's wearing 390 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:30,919 Speaker 1: at work, which is doctor's high Yes, slacks, right and 391 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 1: and like a short sleeve button down, acting out that 392 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 1: he's just died and is reborn. I'm hoping that there's 393 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: like a robe involved or something. Just kind of sure 394 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 1: dead in any any fashion choices. So that's kind of 395 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: you know, it's interesting ritualistic for sure. Uh. Then then 396 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: you begin you're your you know, your rise to the top. 397 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 1: Although they say that most Freemasons don't get above like 398 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 1: what like three degrees right out of the thirty there's 399 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 1: thirty three wells in the French tradition. Um, but the 400 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: I guess the Scottish right is thirty three degrees of freemasonry. 401 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: And as you graduate, you get more secrets told and 402 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: more threats against telling those secrets. Well, go ahead and 403 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 1: tell them the threats. I know you're chumping at the 404 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: bit for that. And the Masons, we should say, by 405 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: the way, deny this. They this is this is speculation. 406 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: But this has come out supposedly from other Masons, that 407 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 1: this is the punishment for revealing secrets. Yes, so apparently 408 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 1: if you're an apprentice, which is the first level, and 409 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,879 Speaker 1: you tell secrets, your tongue is torn out, uh free 410 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:40,439 Speaker 1: craft which uh what numbers that? That's is the second degree? 411 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,640 Speaker 1: Really wow? Uh they will actually tear your heart out, 412 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,679 Speaker 1: which would probably end it for you. And then the 413 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 1: master Mason is the famous bowel burning that I've been 414 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 1: speaking up for fifteen minutes now, and one one has 415 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,239 Speaker 1: to imagine that they're burning your vowels a lot. It's 416 00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 1: not like they suffcate you with the pillow and then 417 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 1: burn your vowel like you're probably alive while your bowels 418 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: will be are being burned. Yeah. And the first time 419 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 1: I read this, I thought, I said, your bowels are turned, 420 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: and I thought that was some ancient like like being 421 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 1: drawn and quartered. I was like, oh my gosh, your 422 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,199 Speaker 1: bowels are turned them. That must be awful. But then 423 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 1: I thought it was burned, which is even worse. They 424 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 1: just go Joan Collins and you're like, oh, my bowels 425 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 1: are turned. Uh. And then if you're a royal Arc, 426 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: then you have the top of your skull sliced off, 427 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:32,959 Speaker 1: which is no fun for anyone. No, again, presumably you're alive, 428 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 1: and we should say the Masons still say this is 429 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,360 Speaker 1: not true. Um. But when you get to that third degree, 430 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,959 Speaker 1: the end of the third degree, the Master Mason degree, 431 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,120 Speaker 1: and you have kept the secrets, your bowels are intact, 432 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: and your heart's fine and your tongue is fine. Um, 433 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: you finally get the name of the Arc, great architect 434 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 1: of the universe as part of your initiation to the 435 00:25:55,119 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 1: um hot Holy Royal arch which is like the fourth degree. Right, So, Chuck, 436 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: what is the name of the great architect of the universe? 437 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:08,120 Speaker 1: Are we going to reveal this? It's in the article. Uh. 438 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:14,400 Speaker 1: It is yab Yabulan, That's what it is. And apparently 439 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,400 Speaker 1: that stands the j a H stands for Yahweh, which 440 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: is the Hebrew god um or God for Hebrew in Hebrew. Right, 441 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 1: and Yahweh meant I am in Hebrew? Oh? Really? Uh? 442 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,400 Speaker 1: And the b u L is for is for ball 443 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: b a a l, which is the ancient Canaanite fertility god. 444 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 1: And then honest now you don't want to mess with him, right, 445 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 1: and honest for Osiris, Yeah, the Egyptian god of the underworld. Right. 446 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:44,439 Speaker 1: So basically what you've got is like this, three different 447 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 1: aspects you have like life, death, sex, existence, you know, 448 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 1: embodied by these different gods and then all combined together, 449 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 1: which is convenient. Yeah. So which degree is your favorite? 450 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 1: Did you look these over? Yeah? My favorite is King 451 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 1: of the Brazen Serpent. Yah. My second favorite was the 452 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 1: Intimate Secretary. There's also the eighth degree is the Night 453 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: of the Pelican an Eagle and Sovereign Prince Rose craw 454 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: of herod Um. Yeah, that's pretty good too. Yeah, there's 455 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: so many Masons that are like, you guys are making 456 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:26,919 Speaker 1: fun of us jerks, We're not. I'm not Timothy Hutton's 457 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 1: out there angry? Is Hutton? Amazon? Turk one two is 458 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 1: a livid right now? He's Amazon? Wow, I gotta list. 459 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 1: We'll go over that later, okay. And I'm sure that 460 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: you have movie references too, I expect. No, not really crazy. So, 461 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 1: Chuck flint Stones, what was that the Royal Order of 462 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 1: Buffalo that was the littally forgot about? Yeah, they were 463 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: the big guh Yeah, buffalo hat. They had faces right 464 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 1: with like horns coming out of him. Was it the 465 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 1: water buffalo? It seems like water buffalo. Maybe it was 466 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 1: water buffalo. Wow. Yeah, he just blew my mind. Man, 467 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: I forgot all about that. I had too until just now. So, Chuck, 468 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: you've entered a lodge. Let's say you're up to the 469 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,640 Speaker 1: third or fourth degree. You're not running around Idaho forming 470 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:16,640 Speaker 1: quote irregular lodges um and you are vying for office. 471 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 1: Let's say, what are some of the um positions available 472 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,479 Speaker 1: to you at a typical lodge. Well, it starts up 473 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 1: top as the with a senior warden well I'm sorry. 474 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 1: There's a master. That's the top, that's the guy who's 475 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 1: running the show of the lodge making sure everything is 476 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 1: abided by abode by. So you got the senior warden 477 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 1: after that. In a junior warden, you've got a treasurer. 478 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: Of course, there's always a treasurer. There's a secretary that 479 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: writes down everything that's going on. You've got a senior 480 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: and a junior deacon. Now I've met a senior or 481 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: junior deacon. I don't know which. I really got which 482 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 1: one he was, but you mean, and I toured the 483 00:28:56,600 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 1: George Washington Memorial Masonic Lodge and Alexandria, Virginia. It is awesome. Cool, 484 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 1: I'll put that on my list. Yes, you should my 485 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 1: bucket list. We we actually signed up Ben Bolan from 486 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 1: um stuff. They don't want you to know to their email. 487 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 1: That's awesome. Yeah, we'll talk about that in a second. 488 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 1: To uh. And then it depends on where the lodge 489 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 1: is and what's how their structure. But you can also 490 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 1: have an inner guard. It's like it's sort of like 491 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: a bouncer um, a chat, a chaplain, director of ceremonies, 492 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 1: and an organist. Yeah, just just just for flair. Then 493 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 1: then then then then then then that you know, you know, 494 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: I equate organists with slacks, do you all I think 495 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 1: about his baseball. I used to think of church, Now 496 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 1: I think of baseball. Let's let's talk quickly about the symbology. 497 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 1: There's so much to it, but the very standard. If 498 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 1: you look at the Mason symbol, it's a it's a 499 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 1: right angle ruler, a compass, and a G. Right, take 500 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 1: it away, Chuck. Well, the g's stands for either God 501 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: or geometry, which was obviously a pretty sacred thing to 502 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 1: a Mason, a Stonemason. And they, you know, to either 503 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 1: God or geometry. My money's on geometry. I would say 504 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 1: geometry too. And uh, the square actually is means something 505 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 1: and encourages you to be a a square dealer, essentially 506 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 1: like sling blade says. And then you have the compass, 507 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: which stands for creating boundaries in life. Right, and there 508 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 1: you have it. There you have that. That's their symbol 509 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: and what it means. All right, I guess it is 510 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 1: time for um conspiracy theory. Maybe, yeah, we gotta throw 511 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,719 Speaker 1: this in there. If you ever suspected the Masons of 512 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 1: having in their past um uh, an allegiance or a 513 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 1: confederacy with a group called the Illuminati, who has spent 514 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 1: on throwing over the Church and government in a stab 515 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 1: wishing a new world order. You're actually right, let's hear it. Uh. 516 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 1: There was a guy named Professor Adam Wis shouted, why 517 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: shopped by shopped We'll go with that one who in 518 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 1: the eighteenth century founded this group called the Illuminati. And 519 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 1: the Illuminati basically said, we think that government's corrupt, we 520 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: think that the church is corrupt, and we need to 521 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 1: get rid of them. But this is not something that 522 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 1: you can do in the open. So we're gonna form 523 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,719 Speaker 1: a secret society. And speaking of secret societies, we like 524 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 1: you Mason's in Bavaria, So let's hook up. Let's do 525 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 1: this together. You're really doing it, right. So the Mason's 526 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: in Bavaria and the Illuminati hung out for a while, uh, 527 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: joined forces. And then the Mason's realized that these guys 528 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 1: were going to get them all killed, and they they 529 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: broke off their um engagement with the Illuminati, and their 530 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 1: date with destiny was postponed. Right, So, what I thought 531 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 1: was nice was the government, but various said no, no, no, Illuminati, 532 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 1: you need to disband, which they supposedly did and scene. 533 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 1: But we since we're talking about conspiracies, we need to 534 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 1: say some people still think that they're involved together and 535 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 1: that they're trying to control. That was implied by my 536 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 1: pregnant pause at the end. They think they're trying to 537 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 1: like control the banks of the world and the governments 538 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 1: of the world, all secretly together. Right. One view of 539 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: the Mason's is that the Masons that you see every 540 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 1: day with like the stickers and the magnets on their 541 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 1: cars or the Shriners and their little cars, um, are 542 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 1: basically just distractions, and that they're these you know people 543 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 1: at like the higher levels, the thirty third degrees, they're 544 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 1: actually running the show. Um. It's all a big front, right, 545 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 1: and these are the people who like actually run Goldman Sacks, 546 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 1: you know, decide that the euro is going to happen, 547 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 1: or whether or not Greece is allowed to exist as 548 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 1: an economy, that kind of stuff. Uh. And I think 549 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 1: now is when we should bring up our cohorts and 550 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 1: stuff they don't want you to know, which if for 551 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 1: those of you not in the now, it's our one 552 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 1: of our video podcasts that a couple of our you know, 553 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: video dudes do a great job and it's very Yeah, 554 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 1: it's cool and it's you know, they have a lot 555 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 1: of fun with it and they're not like they don't 556 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 1: believe all this stuff necessarily, but it's fun to dig 557 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 1: it up and do fun little videos about it. Fun. 558 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: And they did one on Mason's And one of the 559 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 1: theories is that the layout of Washington d C was 560 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 1: designed in such a way by freemasons to align with 561 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 1: lay lines. And lay lines are these supposed energy forces 562 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 1: like electum electro magnetic lines what it is supposedly, And 563 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 1: they did a couple of cool shots of like aerial 564 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 1: shots from Google Maps where they line up these pentagrams 565 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 1: the streets and d C. You've been there, It's like, 566 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 1: it's crazy. I've seen that. We saw that episode together, 567 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 1: remember the beaut it for us? Yeah, it's good. I 568 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 1: just watch it again today. And if you if you 569 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 1: line these streets up, supposedly they match up with ley 570 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 1: lines in accordance with the Washington They call it the 571 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:16,320 Speaker 1: Washington Obelisk, not the Washington Monument. And um those connect 572 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: to like other power points in the in the on Earth, 573 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 1: like Stonehenge or Mr. Convenient Truth, or exactly, and they 574 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: concentrate energy and they say that they can use this 575 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 1: energy in d C to do everything from cause natural 576 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 1: disasters to hallucinations. And these are ley line theorious. And 577 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 1: yet they can't come up with a decent left handed 578 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 1: can opener. Crazy, So we we don't. I don't believe 579 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:43,880 Speaker 1: that stuff. It's all a bunch of bunk. If you 580 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,320 Speaker 1: ask me, it is. But I mean, you know, thinking 581 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 1: about Freemasonry in the United States is kind of a 582 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 1: national pastime among the sixteen to say thirty four year 583 00:34:54,200 --> 00:35:00,359 Speaker 1: old set, right um. And it hasn't always been this way. 584 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,720 Speaker 1: You know. We went from Mason's founding the United States 585 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,319 Speaker 1: to the point where at now, which is you know, hey, 586 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,879 Speaker 1: Mason's how's it going, You guys, just do your own thing, 587 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 1: thanks for being philanthropic, right um, to somewhere in the 588 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 1: middle there was a bump where there was a real 589 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 1: movement that was anti Masonic, that was so strong and 590 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 1: pronounced it had its own newspapers and a political party 591 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 1: based on anti Freemasonry, right for good reason. Well that's 592 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,799 Speaker 1: one case at least. Yeah, Well, there's a guy in 593 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 1: eighty six who is named William Morgan, and he came 594 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 1: out of the book called Freemasonry Exposed, and it basically 595 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 1: laid out a lot of the secrets that we now 596 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 1: know today about freemasonry. Um, and that kind of got 597 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,359 Speaker 1: the public sentiment whipped up, like who are these people? 598 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 1: Why do they believe this stuff? This is kind of weird, right, Yeah. 599 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 1: And I saw a couple of things that I saw 600 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 1: one thing that said that he was tried to get 601 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 1: in and couldn't and that's why I wrote it. And 602 00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 1: then I read a thing that said that he was 603 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:03,399 Speaker 1: actually a Mason and couldn't. They didn't allow him above 604 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,839 Speaker 1: a certain level. So he got all ticked off and said, 605 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:07,840 Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna expose all your secrets. Sure, I 606 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 1: mean there's sour grapes written all over that book, I'm sure, 607 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:14,399 Speaker 1: but um, And probably I think some people may have 608 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 1: taken that whole thing with a grain of salt had 609 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 1: it not been for what happened to William Morrigan, Like 610 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 1: he disappeared. Yeah, he was abducted and taken to the 611 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 1: Niagara River. Yeah, and that this is again there's varying 612 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 1: accounts on what happened because they can't there's very little 613 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 1: evidence in this case. But The story goes that he 614 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 1: was arrested formally arrested for a a debt that he 615 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: owed to an innkeeper, which this alleged debt was a 616 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 1: very kinky thing, and they put him in jail, and 617 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,799 Speaker 1: the jail keeper took the night off and had his 618 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 1: wife stepped in for him. And these three Masons came 619 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,799 Speaker 1: to the wife and said, hey, can you give us 620 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 1: this guy? Can we can go into our custody and 621 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 1: she said sure, And then they stuffed him in a trunk, 622 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,439 Speaker 1: drove him to Canada, and either paid him to stay 623 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,359 Speaker 1: in Canada or drowned him in the river. We don't 624 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 1: know what happened, depends on how much money they had. Yeah, 625 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 1: I guess so, But I took it that they never 626 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 1: found William Morgan's body. Then if he conceivably lived his 627 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,240 Speaker 1: life out in Canada or he drowned, that would indicate 628 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,959 Speaker 1: that they never found him. But he disappeared right after 629 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 1: he wrote this book. Yeah, and that whipped up a 630 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:27,800 Speaker 1: frenzy of anti Masonic sentiment, basically right and so uh 631 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:31,239 Speaker 1: that in New York State, Uh, the number of lodges 632 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 1: went from four hundred and eighty in eighteen five to 633 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 1: seventy five in eighteen thirty five. It's just a decade, right, 634 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,840 Speaker 1: So it went kind of, um, it went south, It 635 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:44,759 Speaker 1: went parachape for him for a little while. And the 636 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:49,280 Speaker 1: Civil War was such a national horror that um, everybody 637 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 1: kind of forgot about how much they hated the Masons, 638 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 1: and the Masons were allowed to flourish again, and here 639 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 1: we are today. Yeah, and some you know, there's other 640 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 1: weird theories about bad things they've done, like they were 641 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,280 Speaker 1: in on the Kennedy plot, Uh, the Kennedy assassination plot, 642 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:08,200 Speaker 1: or the Jack the Ripper murders. But there's no water 643 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,200 Speaker 1: that can be held with any of that. But if 644 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:15,799 Speaker 1: you really really want to learn about masonry, freemasonry, right, 645 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:22,359 Speaker 1: apparently the Freemasonry for Dummies and the Complete Idiots Guide 646 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 1: to from Masonry are dead on because in the list 647 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 1: of complaints against him, the a former master of a 648 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 1: lodge in Boise who was basically calling out this guy 649 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,720 Speaker 1: and telling him he had to come to a Masonic trial, 650 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 1: UM cited specific page numbers in these two books. So 651 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 1: if you if you really want to understand masonry, get 652 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 1: the Complete Idiots Guide or UM The Mason's Guide to 653 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:55,480 Speaker 1: Dummies or Masonry for dummies, both of those. I have one, 654 00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,400 Speaker 1: do you. I got it from Mattford really got are 655 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 1: so into that. I do have a list, and you know, 656 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:03,840 Speaker 1: if you go, there's an official list on the internet 657 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:07,560 Speaker 1: of like hundreds and hundreds of famous men that have 658 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,759 Speaker 1: been Freemasons. But I just earmarked a few that I 659 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:15,600 Speaker 1: thought were interesting. Um, but Abbott of Abbott and Costello, Mason, 660 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,720 Speaker 1: Louis Armstrong and Duke Ellington, both Masons. Yeah. I'm sorry 661 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:23,399 Speaker 1: to interrupt, but we should say that the Masons were um, 662 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:27,880 Speaker 1: very much down with the abolition movement. There was um 663 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:31,760 Speaker 1: they had They allowed I guess that African Lodge number 664 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:36,080 Speaker 1: one to be established in Boston in seventeen seventy five. 665 00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,799 Speaker 1: Very fourth thinking in a lot of ways, Yeah for sure. Yeah, 666 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 1: and that became the Prince Hall Freemasonry, which is segregated 667 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,920 Speaker 1: but like a huge part of the abolitionist movement. And 668 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 1: we're talking a century before um, the real deal. Yeah wow. 669 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:51,600 Speaker 1: And you know I also read a thing I should 670 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,719 Speaker 1: mention that they were targeted, uh during the Holocaust as well, 671 00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,360 Speaker 1: So you add them to the list of homosexuals and 672 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:02,279 Speaker 1: Jews and you know, anyone that cross eyes that the 673 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,239 Speaker 1: Nazis were like, let's kill him. You know, cross eye 674 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,280 Speaker 1: is called stravismus. Did you know that we're just throwing 675 00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,719 Speaker 1: the knowledge out today. Uh So. Next on my list 676 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:17,880 Speaker 1: is Davy Crockett, King of the Wild Frontier. Henry Clay. 677 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:21,280 Speaker 1: How about that he was the Speaker of the House 678 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,759 Speaker 1: and he was hawkish, right, yeah, he was actually the 679 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:27,120 Speaker 1: grand Master of Kentucky. And our buddies, I guess, and 680 00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,359 Speaker 1: the Henry Clay people that was enough for them? Are 681 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:34,480 Speaker 1: they from Kentucky? From l a weird? Uh Cecil B. 682 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:40,359 Speaker 1: De Mille, Arthur Conan Doyle, John Elway and Scottie Pippen Freemasons? 683 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:44,880 Speaker 1: How about that Harry Hudini, Timothy Hutton, as I already said, 684 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:50,719 Speaker 1: Jesse Jackson, and Peter Seller's Harpo Marx and then of 685 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:54,120 Speaker 1: course for some reason, Mark Twain and John Wayne Just 686 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,319 Speaker 1: I was like, well, of course they're Freemasons. They just 687 00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,480 Speaker 1: kind of fit. And that's just a few. I mean, 688 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 1: j Edgar Hoover, Clark Gay. Well, there's tons and tons 689 00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,880 Speaker 1: of these famous dudes back in the day were Freemason's. 690 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:09,520 Speaker 1: It was the hip thing back then. Well, it's Freemasonry. UM. Attention, 691 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:13,000 Speaker 1: all Freemason's. If you're going to send guys to kill 692 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:16,000 Speaker 1: me and Chuck, please at least let it be Scottie 693 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:19,920 Speaker 1: Pippen and Timothy Hutton, Okay, to burn my bowels. What 694 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,960 Speaker 1: if Scottie Pippen burns your bowels this weekend or next 695 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,600 Speaker 1: week when this is released, I'd be upset. Would be 696 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:29,319 Speaker 1: quite a story. So listen. If you want to learn more, 697 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:33,680 Speaker 1: you want to see that all thirty three degrees of freemasonry. 698 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:37,240 Speaker 1: You can type in how Freemason's work in the search 699 00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,520 Speaker 1: bar how stuff works dot Com and I guess then 700 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:46,920 Speaker 1: it's time for listener. Mayl It is Josh. I'm gonna 701 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:51,520 Speaker 1: call this um one of a couple of prison emails 702 00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:53,759 Speaker 1: that we're gonna be reading. I'm gonna stretch these out 703 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:55,799 Speaker 1: over a few weeks. We got some awesome email from 704 00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:59,279 Speaker 1: former inmates that set us straight in a few ways. 705 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:03,000 Speaker 1: And also, uh, I'm gonna said we were dead on yeah, 706 00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,080 Speaker 1: And I think what we learned, or what I learned 707 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,000 Speaker 1: from the email was it's hard to do a definitive 708 00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,759 Speaker 1: prison podcast because they're all a little bit different, Like this. 709 00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:12,440 Speaker 1: One girl wrote in She's like they're not allowed to 710 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,319 Speaker 1: have cigarettes in prison, and I replied, oh, yes, they 711 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,279 Speaker 1: are with a link. And it just depends on what 712 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,560 Speaker 1: state and what prison it is. Each prison has its 713 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:25,400 Speaker 1: own personality. Uh this is from anonymous. She requested, or 714 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,080 Speaker 1: he requested, thank you for the prison podcast. Guys. I 715 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 1: grew up in Attica, New York, not in the prison. 716 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,480 Speaker 1: My father was a correctional officer and he until he 717 00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,200 Speaker 1: retired just this year. I lived about a mile away 718 00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 1: from the prison, and when I was a kid, they 719 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,480 Speaker 1: used to tell me that it was a castle, uh 720 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:46,080 Speaker 1: the sort it is a way. Standing in my yard, 721 00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,400 Speaker 1: you could hear the guards speaking to the prison prisoners 722 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,520 Speaker 1: in the yard, and we even went to an annual 723 00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,359 Speaker 1: picnic for the guards and their families every year on 724 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,520 Speaker 1: the prison grounds. It was always surreal to ride in 725 00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 1: a hay wagon around the prison grounds and see the 726 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:03,480 Speaker 1: prisoner behind razor wire razor wire, playing basketball and hanging out. 727 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,560 Speaker 1: No one had ever escaped at that, you know, during 728 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,560 Speaker 1: my stay there. But when I was in high school, 729 00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:13,080 Speaker 1: a few prisoners did escape from the minimum security prisons 730 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:17,319 Speaker 1: behind Attica, and they were caught very soon after when 731 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,040 Speaker 1: their vowels were burned and they were burned by Scottie Pippen. 732 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,400 Speaker 1: It is hard to feel any sympathy for these prisoners 733 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,480 Speaker 1: for me because I grew up in the shadow of 734 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,400 Speaker 1: this institution, and when you know families that are affected 735 00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,920 Speaker 1: by the death of the guards during the riot, you 736 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,480 Speaker 1: know it changes your outlook. I think people want to 737 00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,719 Speaker 1: root for the underdog and believe that there are so 738 00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:39,240 Speaker 1: many wrongly convicted innocence in prison and the guards are evil, 739 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,200 Speaker 1: but in reality, most of the guys are pretty bad guys, 740 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:43,600 Speaker 1: and most of the guards are just trying to do 741 00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,279 Speaker 1: their job. In fact, no one mentions the stress that 742 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,200 Speaker 1: the guards go through working in a place like that 743 00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,959 Speaker 1: every day. My dad used to have nightmares. He wants 744 00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,759 Speaker 1: grabbed my mom while he was asleep and told her 745 00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:57,240 Speaker 1: to lock in. So that's sort of like our sleep. 746 00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:00,840 Speaker 1: Then its parasomnia, and he he said, it's almost like 747 00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,120 Speaker 1: they have sort of like a post traumatic stress disorder. 748 00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,640 Speaker 1: When my dad finally retired this year, it was as 749 00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,719 Speaker 1: if a huge burden was lifted. He was less irritated 750 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:12,120 Speaker 1: and he was less snappy with the people around him. 751 00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,120 Speaker 1: So kudos to the men and women who go to 752 00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,240 Speaker 1: work at these places day in and day out, working 753 00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,320 Speaker 1: midnight shifts on holiday so we can all be safe. 754 00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:20,560 Speaker 1: And that's from Anonymous, and that's a very good point. 755 00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:24,840 Speaker 1: Thanks a lot for the email, Anonymous, appreciate that. Um, 756 00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:30,799 Speaker 1: it's a weird name. It is unique. Yeah, if you 757 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:34,160 Speaker 1: want to send us an anonymous email, that's perfectly fine. 758 00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,160 Speaker 1: Just say anonymous because we'll be able to tell from 759 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:40,279 Speaker 1: your email address who you are. You can wrap it 760 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:45,279 Speaker 1: up and send it to us at stuff podcast at 761 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:52,319 Speaker 1: how stuff works dot com. For more on this and 762 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,880 Speaker 1: thousands of other topics, is it how stuff works dot com. 763 00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,799 Speaker 1: Want more how stuff works, check out our blogs on 764 00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:03,920 Speaker 1: the house stuff works dot com homepage. H brought to 765 00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:07,040 Speaker 1: you by the reinvented two thousand twelve camera. 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