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Speaker 1: Unfiltered, Episode thirty five. It is spring training season, Isaac,

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Speaker 1: and we are as joined with Eli Sessman as well. Isaac,

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Speaker 1: how are you? Spring training season is here? By the

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Speaker 1: time this goes up, you order, I've already gone up

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Speaker 1: to Jupiter, but you're going up there tomorrow. And quick,

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Speaker 1: thank you to the fans at FanFest. We've got a

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Speaker 1: lot of love, Isaac. Your quick your little jersey picture

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Speaker 1: with Blade got some love. So it's been it's been

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Speaker 1: a while since we were on here. But how's everything?

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Speaker 1: And I'm excited to go into some fans tweets.

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Speaker 2: Yes, everything is swell. Kevin, thank you for recording this

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Speaker 2: on Wednesday, February fifteenth. I will drive out to Jupiter

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Speaker 2: tonight after our live stream. Make sure you tune into that.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, very excited if this is my favorite time

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Speaker 2: of year, rewarding to Jupiter. The backfields, the main backfields

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Speaker 2: will be all over the place, giving you content where

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Speaker 2: you can get nowhere else.

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Speaker 3: So much positivity this time of year, everybody meeting each

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Speaker 3: other for the first time, making good first impressions. Every

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Speaker 3: possibility is ahead of them for the time being. So

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Speaker 3: I agree with Isaac that this is a fun time

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Speaker 3: to be around, just baseball in general, and in particularly

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Speaker 3: this team. This team, as we've talked about on previous show,

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Speaker 3: is less head. They've built momentum heading into spring training,

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Speaker 3: for sure, and I definitely feel that in the kind

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Speaker 3: of response we get from the Fishtraps audience, and.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of what we're going to do today. We're

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Speaker 1: going to kind of see what the audience believes about

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Speaker 1: this team. I put out a tweet earlier this week

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Speaker 1: asking the fans, what are your expectations entering spring training

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Speaker 1: or your biggest storylines entering spring training?

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Speaker 2: That's an interesting question. Talked about the lab, that's an

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Speaker 2: interesting question.

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Speaker 1: And we're just gonna go basically one by one. There

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Speaker 1: are a lot of good responses, and we think the

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Speaker 1: many many people that commented on the tweet, I believe

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Speaker 1: it was like over twenty. So we'll go into as

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Speaker 1: many as we can, and I guess we'll start right

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Speaker 1: with the first one, unless there's anything else I'm missing.

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Speaker 2: Isaacar Elai, No, you got it. Our new intro sounds

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Speaker 2: like it's sort of a background music to Beth Beth,

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Speaker 2: Bed and Breakfast. I think no I actually met the

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Speaker 2: store Bed Bath and beyond.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, maybe I can see that.

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Speaker 1: Sounds more like a hotel, like you're walking to.

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Speaker 2: Bath and body works, one of those. It sounds like something.

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Speaker 3: There's never been a good in there never has been,

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Speaker 3: and there never will be a perfect intro to this show.

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Speaker 2: That's what makes it with it.

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Speaker 1: Just all right, let's get into the first one, which

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Speaker 1: was from nave at Marlin's discord. Yeah, we can make

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Speaker 1: the tweet bigger, all right. Every position is filled with

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Speaker 1: either a week defender or a player playing out position.

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Speaker 1: Will that be enough to back up the strong rotation?

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Speaker 1: I will say, with Sandy on the mound, you feel

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Speaker 1: pretty good usually, but he's a guy who really does

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Speaker 1: the outfield. I don't feel too bad about it. What

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Speaker 1: too much, Joey Wendell, who was injured a lot last

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Speaker 1: it and basically play there every day, So it's I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna say yes, because I do think they have some

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Speaker 1: and I do believe Jaz will transition well to center.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a fair concern, especially in the infield,

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Speaker 2: because one, you know, we talked about the rule change,

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Speaker 2: You're going to enjoy Wendell, who is no slotch himself,

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Speaker 2: Probably going downward from Jazz to Lewis arise, and you

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Speaker 3: Right And it's also specifically with the infield do have

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Speaker 3: Even before spring training, they had a hitter's camp going

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Speaker 3: There's gonna be so few reps between these infielders with

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'll say that the most will probably see

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Speaker 1: We saw this with Costeanos who they brought in and

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Speaker 3: So I like that you mentioned Castianos. The Phillies signed him,

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Speaker 3: they sacrificed the defense, they sacrificed the offense. They didn't

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Speaker 2: Acquire in the first place.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's that's why I understand the concern, because

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Speaker 1: Yep, moving on, we have jos Marlens. I'm concerned about

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Speaker 1: the overall defense of the team. We already covered that.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for guess mentioning that. All right, Next one

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Speaker 1: comes from Victor. It is Jazz and center field, pucking

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Speaker 1: looks like he's playing pretty well so far. And what

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Speaker 1: He's been trained by already John Chase, former center fielder

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Speaker 3: That Ken about as big a name as you can

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Speaker 2: There you go, So all right.

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Speaker 1: Then the the other question is, well, Isaac, if you

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Speaker 2: No, just Jazz. You know, you've never seen someone be

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Speaker 2: more excited about going from you know, the middle endfield

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Speaker 3: When is it will be on a field for actual

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Speaker 2: It'll be both, It'll be both. We will probably grab.

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Speaker 4: One of the spring training fields one of these days

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Speaker 2: How is the transition on so far?

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Speaker 4: I mean, it was going great so far and not

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Speaker 2: Pretty good that I'll catch everything.

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Speaker 5: How do you feel you've got you dealt with the

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Speaker 4: I mean, like I remember last year when I went

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Speaker 4: last year before games, I would always learn every field

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Speaker 3: and as a manager himself. So that's kind of why

435
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Speaker 3: I think I can believe that there's a good vibe

436
00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:04,560
Speaker 3: in the clubhouse, the players themselves, the new coaching staff,

437
00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:08,520
Speaker 3: Skip and all of us coaches, the ones that are

438
00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,960
Speaker 3: actually on the field, they relative to what he usually

439
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:15,360
Speaker 3: feels a major league player like this is, I can

440
00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,920
Speaker 3: see this being a really encouraging situation, being a very

441
00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:22,080
Speaker 3: comfortable spot where maybe you do see like a handful

442
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Speaker 3: of players performing better than you'd ordinarily expect just because

443
00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,080
Speaker 3: the lack of stress that is on their shoulders. At

444
00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:28,960
Speaker 3: least in twenty.

445
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Speaker 1: Twenty three, is Ki Ki Kim's on the final year

446
00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:35,000
Speaker 1: of her deal, right or she has one year after this.

447
00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:40,960
Speaker 3: We think that this might be her final guaranteed year

448
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,359
Speaker 3: of the deal with an option for next year. Like

449
00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,960
Speaker 3: I think, one way or another, she'll almost certainly be

450
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:52,679
Speaker 3: back in twenty twenty four, but she's certainly on the

451
00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:57,160
Speaker 3: hot seat in a firm sense, especially if this team

452
00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:01,080
Speaker 3: does not make a significant step forward. So yeah, this

453
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,360
Speaker 3: is it is a big year for her more so

454
00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:07,240
Speaker 3: than anybody else. She's deliberated very carefully on making some

455
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:11,119
Speaker 3: of these moves, and we'll have to see if they

456
00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:14,639
Speaker 3: actually proved to be efficient enough to put this team

457
00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,040
Speaker 3: where it hasn't been in quite a few years, at

458
00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:18,679
Speaker 3: least over the course of a full length season.

459
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Speaker 1: All Right, we will move on to the next question

460
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Speaker 1: from Eric C. You mentioned debt elon This is a

461
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,480
Speaker 1: question I believe do they have enough depth to deal

462
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,240
Speaker 1: with injuries? And just to read out what eric he

463
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,120
Speaker 1: put in field Verdie Grossen Zamaya LeBlanc, you could add

464
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:38,040
Speaker 1: Exavier Edwards to that list Outfield Bela Cruz, Verdick gerrar

465
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Speaker 1: Co nine with a question mark the depth.

466
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Speaker 2: I think we have good depth.

467
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Speaker 1: I would say, I mean if just from the list

468
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Speaker 1: that I was sent here, and maybe one more move

469
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,879
Speaker 1: to bolster defensive versatility, says at the bottom, but you

470
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 1: definitely have to add Exavier Edwards to that list of infielders.

471
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Speaker 1: Outfielders m I mean, I don't think there's much more

472
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 1: you can go from there and less I think I

473
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,119
Speaker 1: think you lived at Jeff con I think you listed

474
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 1: Griffin a little bit high there because they do have

475
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 1: some outfield depth.

476
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Speaker 2: When it comes to you know you're starting for Brian Fie,

477
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 2: you know, you you have those four guys in the

478
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 2: big leagues, one who will be on the bench to

479
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 2: begin the year, and then you have guys like Jank

480
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:21,119
Speaker 2: Jake mangum Jaar and Carnassio and Peyton Verdict Brian Miller.

481
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 2: I think all of those guys even maybe you know,

482
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,240
Speaker 2: don't kill me with Victor Victor and jd Or or

483
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:30,639
Speaker 2: probably ahead of Griffin Conan at this point. So in

484
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 2: the OCU, I think will be fine. That's part of

485
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 2: the reason why they felt, you know, that they were

486
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 2: able to trade JJ Bleda and in the infield, I

487
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:39,639
Speaker 2: think they have as much depth as it had at

488
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,359
Speaker 2: least since the rebuild began, So I think that's not

489
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,360
Speaker 2: going to be an issue. Hopefully they have They even

490
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,479
Speaker 2: Garrett Hampson might even start the season on the big

491
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 2: league roster. Behind him, you know, you have Birdie of Wendley,

492
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 2: of all these guys even in the minor leagues and

493
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 2: even in the lower levels of the minor league. So

494
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 2: I don't think depth will will come to be an issue.

495
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 2: I think they're starting pitching. Depth might a little bit ironically.

496
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Speaker 1: I'm I mean, the pitching duff isn't the worst, though

497
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,920
Speaker 1: you trade it. Probably still have Uri who very soon

498
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 1: will probably be ready for the big leagues. You have Castano,

499
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 1: you have some long relievers you could use. I could

500
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:12,959
Speaker 1: see where you could say the depth isn't there, but

501
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 1: I think it's it's all right, and Dak's full and

502
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 1: at some point will we'll debut. And I wanted to mention.

503
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,159
Speaker 2: Eater, Yuri and Dax. You want to save them for

504
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,200
Speaker 2: maybe the second half of the season, just unless they're

505
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,119
Speaker 2: absolutely dominating the upper levels of the miners, which I'm

506
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 2: sure they will, but you want you don't want to

507
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 2: rely on them in the first half of my opinion,

508
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 2: And so that leads you with basically Brox and Garrett,

509
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 2: Bryan howeing uh, Dan Castano maybe you know, you know

510
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 2: he's hurt a little bit.

511
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 3: And the non roster invite is early in the year,

512
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 3: like a Devin Smeltzer Chee cheek and Dallas. That's the

513
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 3: part of the year where you you really need to

514
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 3: hit on some of these journeyman guys when the first

515
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 3: half of the year things don't go well. And this

516
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:56,120
Speaker 3: is Marlin's team that we've seen lose pitching depth during

517
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:57,880
Speaker 3: the first half of the year and not be able

518
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Speaker 3: to overcome it, especially in twenty twenty one. That's one

519
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 3: of the most obvious, but also a little bit last

520
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 3: year as well. So they have some new faces kind

521
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 3: of in the mix this time, and fingers crossed they

522
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 3: won't need them. Like, if this rotation actually stays healthy

523
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 3: with the guys that are currently in those spots, as

524
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 3: people have very fairly hyped it up, this could be

525
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 3: the best rotation in Marlin's history, if the guys that

526
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 3: are at the top actually stay healthy, and if the

527
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,680
Speaker 3: prospects that are next in line, mainly Yuri, if they

528
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 3: live up to their hype. Like, the talents is really immense,

529
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 3: but on the position player side, I think the depth

530
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 3: is especially on the infield depth is in a pretty

531
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,440
Speaker 3: good shape. The kind of a question with the infield

532
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 3: is whether I mean, the main question is that shortstop

533
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:51,360
Speaker 3: whether you're going to they don't. They're kind of cobbling

534
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 3: it together. A very important position that they moved on

535
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 3: from Miguel Rojas, and people understand why. But whether it's

536
00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 3: Wenzel playing there almost every day, or whether you have

537
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 3: to put your trust in one of these young guys

538
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 3: like a Maya to take over it. Like that's one

539
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 3: position where I don't feel really confident in any of

540
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,879
Speaker 3: the solutions that they have, and they'll have to do

541
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,919
Speaker 3: something to address it long term. They as we'll talk

542
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 3: about Jazz a little bit. I think these other questions.

543
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 3: They had a choice really to move them the shortstop

544
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 3: or move them to center fields, and really center field

545
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 3: is not in people's minds. It was a surprise that

546
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 3: they did that, and by doing that and seemingly committing

547
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:33,639
Speaker 3: to doing that, they the shortstop position has me worried.

548
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 3: I'll be fair, I'll be just upfront about that.

549
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's really impressed us too. Like when we

550
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:42,639
Speaker 2: were in spring training last year, Joey one that can

551
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 2: man the position. But like we said, Miguel Rojas, it

552
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 2: does not get better than that. Defensively and pitchers. Fans

553
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 2: are so used to every single play on the west

554
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 2: side of that infield being made and pretty easily by

555
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 2: Miguel Ross. So that's why I strongly advise, you know,

556
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,240
Speaker 2: Miami just take a strong look at Jacob am I

557
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 2: to maybe cracking the opening a roster because he is

558
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:04,719
Speaker 2: very good with the glove and they're gonna need it

559
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 2: laden games. Maybe even to pinch hit against a left

560
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 2: hander because you know, Joey Windel struggles against those in

561
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 2: the box, So there's a lot of things they can do.

562
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 1: All right, We have six questions which we're gonna try

563
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 1: to fly through here very quickly by Marcelina Delgado. So

564
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 1: the first one, who is the Martins closer, and we

565
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 1: kind of can all agree it's going to be closer

566
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:28,360
Speaker 1: by committee? Is Jazz the answer in center field? We'll

567
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 1: have to wait and see. He looks good so far.

568
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,400
Speaker 1: Is Cooper the answer at first base? All right? So

569
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 1: Miami currently the only other first baseman as a non

570
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 1: roster invitee is Troy Johnston, who is a top thirty

571
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 1: prospect currently on MLB pipeline and soon to be by

572
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 1: Fish Stripes. Hopefully, there's not much more to say and

573
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 1: Kim mentioned Biggie row and Ford has his options at

574
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 1: first base. Miggey Rode got traded that same exact day,

575
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 1: and Nick Ford says is still on the roster. But

576
00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 1: I think we'll see Nick catching more, honestly because Jacob stallings,

577
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 1: I just believe we'll catch Sandy and maybe Queto. But

578
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,400
Speaker 1: we'll see how that goes. And Isaac Eli any objections

579
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 1: or just want to add on to that.

580
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, for me, I've never felt that first base was

581
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 3: as much of a pressing need as like most people felt. Unfortunately,

582
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,479
Speaker 3: like Cooper does have this track record of getting injured

583
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:26,919
Speaker 3: in all these very awkward and kind of random ways. Eventually,

584
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 3: I don't know how like I think it is reasonable

585
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 3: to expect him to play most of the games this year,

586
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 3: I can't put my finger on one particular reason to

587
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 3: feel that he's that they need a whole lot of

588
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 3: at bats behind him between fortes. As you mentioned playing

589
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 3: first base, I think that could really happen, and more

590
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,959
Speaker 3: so Luisa Rise, being that that was his primary position

591
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 3: last year. Even though the Marlins are saying he's going

592
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 3: to be at second base, as we covered, they actually

593
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 3: have quite a bit of second base depth. Yeah, I

594
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 3: wouldn't be surprised if a rise. Actually, he does play

595
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 3: almost as much first base this year as he did

596
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty two with the Twins, So between them,

597
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 3: I mean, those are two of those are guys that

598
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 3: aren't great defensively there, but their bats are at least

599
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 3: within striking distance of what you want from a first

600
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 3: baseman in that situation. So I don't know if Cooper

601
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 3: needs to be the answer. I think, all things considered, like, yeah,

602
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 3: it'd be in the perfect world, they would just spend

603
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 3: what it took to get jose A. Brady at the

604
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 3: very start of the off season. But aside from him,

605
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 3: and especially at this stage of the off season, I'm

606
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 3: sure they're gonna find much else. So I think it's

607
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 3: perfectly reasonable. Cooper is one of those few players who

608
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 3: is a pending free agent in a contract year. He

609
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 3: has all the motivation he needs to play well to

610
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 3: take care of his body this year, so I think

611
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 3: that's a I think it's a reasonable bed to just

612
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 3: have him as the guy over there, and he when

613
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 3: he's healthy, is to be an above average hitter, and

614
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 3: when he gets hot, he's going to be the best

615
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 3: hitter on the team for some period time. The lestions

616
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 3: with him are always the injuries and the consistency within

617
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 3: the season. But I am despite the way that the

618
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 3: season ended for Cooper, I'm probably a little more optimistic

619
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 3: than most about him this year.

620
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, we saw how big health was a factor for Coop.

621
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Speaker 1: I mean good enough to make the All Star team

622
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two, So I guess the only other

623
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 1: player we should kind of give a shout out to

624
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 1: his drawer. We saw him play a lot of first

625
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: base and the Dominican Winner League kind of man. Okay,

626
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 1: I mean good enough to put up amazing offensive numbers

627
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 1: and if anything, Coop will just slide in at DAH

628
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 1: from time to time, and Troy Johnson will definitely get

629
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 1: to be the first man to get the call up

630
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 1: if Coop goes down with an injury. So I think

631
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: Cooper's the answer for now. I could see why Miami

632
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 1: was looking for an upgrade, especially Cooper on the contract

633
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 1: year as he mentioned ELI, and they kind of want

634
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 1: more clarity and someone who you know will be there

635
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 1: for years to come, like to brave you. So we'll see.

636
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 1: Next question is is DLS gonna have a good season

637
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 1: assuming he's starting in left field. I know you posted

638
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 1: today Isaac at MLB dot com, But Brian de la

639
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 1: Cruz as a breakout candidate I believe is what it is.

640
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, Dela Cruz only dot com five players who they

641
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,479
Speaker 2: believe will have breakout seasons, and all of Dela Cruz's

642
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 2: bad to ball data sort of supports that they were

643
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 2: a lot of it. A lot of his numbers were

644
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 2: good in September. You know, you gotta take that with

645
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 2: a grain of salt. But yeah, he when he came

646
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 2: back up from being sent down at Triple A, it

647
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 2: was a completely different player and the confidence was insane.

648
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think spring train's gonna be big. I

649
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,479
Speaker 2: think there's gonna be like an Asan Diaz Jazz Chisholm

650
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 2: competition for left field in all honestly, I know they

651
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 2: are gonna platoon no matter what, and during the regular season,

652
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 2: but you know, someone one of the two will get

653
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 2: the everyday job to begin to begin the year.

654
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Speaker 1: So it'll and it'll suck to have to see those

655
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 1: two competing because they're such good friends. But I kind

656
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 1: of want to go to that very quickly. The competition

657
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: side of spring training before we move on here. I

658
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 1: wanted to ask you Braxton, Garrett and Trevor. There's only

659
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: five spots in the rotation. Those two are lefties. We

660
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 1: saw Braxton he can man down part of that fourth

661
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: fifth spot in the rotation. Are we going to see

662
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 1: some type of competition there? Do we think we'll see

663
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 1: a competition between Brax and Trevor? Or do you think

664
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 1: Skip goes all in and goes six man rotation?

665
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 3: It's been floated. I have not really thought about that much,

666
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 3: just considering that it's as much people as that's as

667
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 3: brain thought as people put into the six man rotation idea.

668
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 3: It has very rarely been used by Major League teams

669
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 3: for any extended period of time because of how protective

670
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 3: they are of their believers. If you add six starters,

671
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 3: that by definition it shortened to the bullpen, and you

672
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 3: either have to be really confident in your relief depth

673
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 3: on your forty man roster because guys are gonna get

674
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 3: tired unless you're going to cycle in that area. It

675
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 3: doesn't really make sense because even if you get quality

676
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 3: starts from most of those six guys, you're gonna see

677
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 3: the effects on the other end of the game when

678
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 3: the situations are most important, So that just seems like

679
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 3: a cop out, and I don't I think they're going

680
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 3: to settle on just five guys. Obviously want to hope

681
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 3: that it's simply five. Everybody stays healthy, and they make

682
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 3: a very tough decision at the end of spring I

683
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 3: think realistically, you see the way that teams manage the

684
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 3: endings of these pitchers, even if it's not a serious

685
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 3: injury there are it's it's a strategy to hide guys

686
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 3: on the IL for a period of time to manage

687
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 3: their endings over the course of the season. So I

688
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 3: wouldn't be surprised if that's the way this goes, either

689
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 3: or one of the young guys, somebody obviously Braxton, he's

690
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 3: the one that he has never come close to pitching

691
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 3: the full season before, and neither has Lozardo even though

692
00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 3: he obviously deserves to be in the rotation, and neither

693
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 3: has end Caprera, who can't be sent down anyway. Yeah,

694
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 3: it would be unsurprising if we get to the end

695
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 3: of spring training and all these guys pitch well, that

696
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 3: one of them goes on the IL due to four

697
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 3: arm tightness or something like that. Just to manage their

698
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 3: endings and knowing that they'll be needed very soon in

699
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 3: the rotation, but just to keep everybody fresh. Yeah, six

700
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 3: PN rotation, it's difficult to manage. The teams that use

701
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 3: it generally aren't very successful during the period of time

702
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 3: that they are using it. So with the Marlins, I

703
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 3: think they're ultimately going to make a decision at the

704
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 3: end of spring training when it comes to that fifth

705
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 3: spot or they if they are going to cop out

706
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,720
Speaker 3: rather than expand the rotation, it's going to be using

707
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 3: the injured list in a very creative way.

708
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 1: Yep. All right, Moving on, Are the Marlins competitive in

709
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 1: the NL East?

710
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 2: It really does depend.

711
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,320
Speaker 1: I mean you're looking at the teams on top of

712
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 1: them right now, Phillies, Braves and Mets, all teams who

713
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 1: got a lot better throughout this offseason. We don't even

714
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 1: have to mentioned the moves that each team made because

715
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 1: it'll just be a very very long list, but just

716
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 1: no trade turners back in the NL East, justin Verlander,

717
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,919
Speaker 1: the unanimous al Cy Young is now in the AL

718
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 1: East and you have to deal with him when you

719
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 1: play the Mets, and Sean Murphy's now a Nalyast member

720
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 1: and he will be here with the Bradys for a

721
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 1: very long time. So if Miami wants to compete, you

722
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: believe they would have to do more than what they

723
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 1: did this offseason. But they did do enough to at

724
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 1: least fight for the third spot in the NA East.

725
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 1: Maybe surprise many and take that third spot and fight

726
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: for the second, like Duke Johnson predicted.

727
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be tough for this team no matter what.

728
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 2: No matter how you slice it, you gotta assume all

729
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 2: three of those teams that you mentioned, keV will be

730
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 2: in the postseason, not even competing. But you gotta think

731
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 2: three of the postseason teams in the NL will be

732
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,359
Speaker 2: from the NA East. So that sort of leaves one

733
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 2: playoff spot available for Miami to try and compete for,

734
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 2: which is the third wild card. But yeah, I don't

735
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:01,240
Speaker 2: think the Braves got insanely better. They Sean Murphy and

736
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 2: I think that's about it. But yeah, you're right, the

737
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 2: Phillies out of trade Turner, they will be without Bryce

738
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 2: Harper for a couple of months, and it's like to

739
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 2: give some sort of hard hope of optimism here. Yeah,

740
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 2: Bryce Harbery's gonna be gone for a little bit. The Braves.

741
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 2: We'll see what Akunya does. But Miami fared kind of

742
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 2: decent against them and the Mets. Something always seems to

743
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 2: go wrong. They're depending on two, you know, close to

744
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 2: forty year olds to be at the top of the rotation.

745
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,320
Speaker 2: And there's a way that Miami can maybe stay relevant

746
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 2: up until August and September. It's not likely, but there

747
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 2: is a small glimmer of hope for this for this

748
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,320
Speaker 2: team in this division. And they don't have to face

749
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 2: each of those teams how many times this year, not

750
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:42,399
Speaker 2: eighteen thirteen. They play to them less, which hurts because

751
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,399
Speaker 2: you only face the Nationals thirteen times, but it helps

752
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,919
Speaker 2: because you only face these guys thirteen times as well.

753
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 1: So yeah, and I quickly want to mention you mentioned,

754
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 1: you know, Braves, Mets, Phillies, all teams we could basically

755
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 1: put as a lock in for the playoffs. You just

756
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 1: have to look what's outside the analy He's I mean,

757
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,320
Speaker 1: the Diamondbacks are a team that probably will become copeeding

758
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: towards the end. You still have teams like the San

759
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 1: Francisco Giants, who who got a little bit better this offseason,

760
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 1: unfortunately struck out on Judge and Korea, and then you

761
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,280
Speaker 1: have these other teams in the NL Central Cardinals Cubs

762
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 1: got a lot better, so you know, in Brewers, I

763
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:17,879
Speaker 1: guess you could also mention which is a team that's

764
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: always in there. So if Miami could just stay, you know,

765
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 1: stay at the par with those teams or stay at

766
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: afloat very close to that end a wilid card spot,

767
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: you would kind of feel pretty good about how they

768
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: could compete. But in the NL East you could kind

769
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 1: of say's highly unlikely Miami will will end up in

770
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: the top two. I'll keep the third spot as a possibility.

771
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you mentioned it. For anybody that hasn't seen

772
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 3: our Duke Johnson live stream that we did earlier this month,

773
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 3: I encourage you to check it out on our YouTube channel.

774
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 3: I thought he'd want to talk football for most of it,

775
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 3: this being the Duke Johnson who is the University of

776
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 3: Miami legends and still is an active NFL player, But

777
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 3: wept most of it talking about the Marlins because he

778
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 3: is doving really deep into the Marlins way to not

779
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 3: just being a big fan, but being somebody that actually

780
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 3: has opinions on that stuff. Like he was so impressive,

781
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 3: and you can find that on our YouTube channel. I

782
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:13,919
Speaker 3: want to kind of wrap this up and just cover

783
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 3: anything that we feel we haven't touched on already. We

784
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 3: should mention six Dough here from both Austin Marlins fan

785
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 3: and Nick Alvarez. They're curious about him. How are we

786
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 3: feeling about six though? Just for anybody that doesn't know,

787
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 3: we should probably update them on how it is that

788
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 3: he reported to spring training this year looking in better

789
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 3: shape than ever, honestly, not just the best shape of

790
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 3: his Marlins career, but the best shape of his professional career. Surprisingly.

791
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was able to speak with him at media day,

792
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 2: and yeah, I don't know who reported that he was hot.

793
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 2: He looks great. That he told us he lost I

794
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 2: think it was forty six pounds. People were saying we

795
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 2: should call him forty six Dough hah, but yeah, he says.

796
00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 2: I asked him what percentage of health he's out. He

797
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 2: say five percent. He's thrown five bullpens I believe, Yeah,

798
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 2: eighty eight miles an hour. Obviously, he's not there yet.

799
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 2: The team has not given him given him permission to

800
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 2: pitch in spring training games yet. He's hoping that in

801
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 2: March and April he will be pitching in some sort

802
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 2: of you know, organized baseball game, which will be the

803
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 2: first time in two years. But yeah, things are seemingly

804
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 2: starting to go right for this young man. And you know,

805
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 2: if he can just show some sort of what he

806
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 2: showed in twenty twenty, that'd be incredible, and that'd be

807
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 2: adding to the death that this team desperately needs. So yeah,

808
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 2: six so still a ginormous question mark. I'd be surprised

809
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 2: if they get anything out of him, but it is

810
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 2: a possibility. It's never been as optimissic with six as

811
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 2: it is now. I guess you could.

812
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: Say, yeah, and that's kind of what I wanted to

813
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: say that with six, though, you you kind of assume

814
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 1: maybe this guy will never pitch again. But the way

815
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 1: he's rehabbing now and it looks like it's going, is

816
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 1: maybe he will make some type of a pitch. Maybe

817
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: he will pitch a major league game in twenty twenty three.

818
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 1: I won't say he will make a big contribution, but

819
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 1: maybe he will get on the mountain pitch. And if

820
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 1: it's as a spots, if it's as a reliever, hopefully reliever,

821
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 1: I think that's probably where he will best line up

822
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 1: at this moment, just with how the team looks right now,

823
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 1: but it's obviously another guy who you could count on

824
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 1: to make starts if fully healthy, looks good, and especially

825
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 1: he looks good in those rehab starts, which we'll probably

826
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 1: be seeing at some point this year, and if he

827
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,760
Speaker 1: pitches in March in a spring training game, that is very,

828
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 1: very impressive. Or we could see pitching one of those

829
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 1: scrims with the minor leaguers, which I know Eli and

830
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 1: I kind of saw. Eli saw more than I did

831
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 1: during spring training, but definitely saw a couple of those

832
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 1: during during spring stuff six so could pitch in one

833
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: of those maybe or even in a spring training game.

834
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Speaker 1: That's just incredible and huge shout out to him for

835
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: being able to get through that recovery in those two years,

836
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 1: which probably been the biggest mental you know, just horrible

837
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 1: years for him not being able to go out there

838
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 1: and pitch with his teammach, which is something he said

839
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 1: he wanted to do play and it hurt him a

840
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,439
Speaker 1: lot not being able to go out there. So wish

841
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,720
Speaker 1: him the best. And he looks great. I mean, forty

842
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 1: six pounds will shut it off of his stomach, so yeah,

843
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 1: well I guess we'll just keep going down.

844
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, we can just do two more topics, probably

845
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 3: this one from pac Man about the chemistry under manager

846
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 3: Skip Schumacher. What's the vibe you guys are getting about

847
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 3: Skip at this stage. He's been hired right after right

848
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:26,280
Speaker 3: during the World Series. Somebody, he's one of the youngest

849
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 3: managers in the game. He's he like speaking publicly, he is,

850
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 3: he handles. He has a big change of pace from

851
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,800
Speaker 3: Don Manningly in a lot of different ways as somebody

852
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,720
Speaker 3: that just played the game very recently at the highest

853
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 3: level and kind of understands what the players are going

854
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 3: through at this stage of his career. Yeah, I think

855
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 3: it is an interesting question about how it is that

856
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 3: the players will react to him, like on one level

857
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 3: he can relate to them. On another level, like he

858
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 3: doesn't carry the same his resume isn't the same as

859
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 3: Don Mattingly. It's not a former MVP of the league,

860
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 3: not a former face of baseball. So when he makes

861
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 3: mistakes or when he's in situations that he's unfamiliar with

862
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 3: as a first time manager, how will the players response.

863
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 3: I think that is a pretty big question right now

864
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 3: as to like when you add it all together. Is

865
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 3: he the right guy to like lead this group, this team,

866
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 3: and is he going to put them in a position where

867
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 3: they overachieve. I think it's fair to say the last

868
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 3: couple of seasons under Donnie they underachieved based on the

869
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 3: talent that they had for whatever variety of reasons. And

870
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 3: now let's Skip. It's it's always hard to put your

871
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 3: finger on the influence of a manager, but he's He's

872
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 3: different in a lot of ways, and some of those positive,

873
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 3: but some of those that is understandably a very big

874
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 3: storyline as to whether we think he's ready for this job.

875
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 3: No other team hired him for this position over the

876
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 3: past few years where he tried to get it, and

877
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 3: the Marlins are taking this big leap and putting their

878
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 3: trust in him.

879
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

880
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 1: I've not been able to speak to Skip personally yet.

881
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 1: I couldn't. I did not see myt fan fast. But

882
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 1: Isaac has spoken to him on multiple occasions already. So

883
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 1: if you kind of want to just talk about Skip, Isaac,

884
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 1: you know, just meeting him in person, how he is

885
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 1: and all that.

886
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 2: You could tell. He's just he's missing playing baseball for

887
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 2: a living. But no, I think Eli alluded to everything perfectly.

888
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 2: He's a he's a players guy. Obviously doesn't have the

889
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 2: resume of Donnie like you I said, but it's a

890
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 2: it's a great human being and he's in phenomenal shape.

891
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys have the tweet of

892
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 2: you know of him and then from his presser he

893
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:39,439
Speaker 2: looks great. Nothing much else to say. I will speak

894
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 2: with him tomorrow, hopefully more personally, and I'll have more

895
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 2: info for you guys.

896
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:48,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, Donnie, I mean Tonnie Skip is he he looks

897
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 1: like a player's guys mentioned and I think Eli mentioned

898
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 1: this right when they first hired him. But Skip was

899
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: part of the stack cast era when he was playing.

900
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,399
Speaker 3: So I get his final year of his playing career,

901
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 3: twenty fifth and that was the first year of stackas

902
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 3: So when it comes to just the kind of instructions

903
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 3: that he probably received as a player, it's some of

904
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 3: the same stuff that his players are receiving today, where

905
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 3: when you're playing at a time, all your movements are tracked,

906
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:22,240
Speaker 3: and through cameras and through other just technology, you can

907
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 3: pinpoint very specific things about players more so than ever before.

908
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,359
Speaker 3: And that is something that was so foreign too the game,

909
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 3: not that long ago, but now it is. That's the

910
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 3: entire difference between wins and losses is which team is

911
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 3: like recognizing these deficiencies and making the adjustments the right way.

912
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 3: So he is very relatable to the players, and the

913
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 3: question is whether the other aspects of the job, whether

914
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:46,359
Speaker 3: he's ready for it.

915
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, So final question comes from Andre andres Nato can

916
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 1: slash Will Sandy continue his dominance on the mound this season?

917
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,399
Speaker 1: Just for a refresher, Sandy was the cy Young winn

918
00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two. He will be trying to defend

919
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 1: the award again this year, and hopefully they'll spell it

920
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:07,720
Speaker 1: right this time. He surpassed the two hundred inning markus surprise,

921
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 1: surpassed the two hundred strikeout marker got I believe it

922
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 1: was six complete games, I want to say this year,

923
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: So you can't say much more about how good Sandy

924
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: was in twenty twenty two. I do believe he'll continue

925
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 1: the dominance. Will it be at the same level, Maybe not,

926
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 1: but you'll definitely see Sandy go out and try to

927
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 1: pitch all nine every night, every fifth day when he's

928
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: on that mound.

929
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,359
Speaker 2: I think the number one thing people need to just

930
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 2: hope for is his uncanny ability to stay healthy. He

931
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 2: you know, knocking what He hasn't really spent any time

932
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 2: on the injured list since he's been a Marlin, not

933
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 2: that I know of. Even in the COVID shortened season.

934
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 2: He didn't even go down the COVID IL so he did.

935
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but he's right. Yeah, I was. He was

936
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 2: one of them. He was in the beginning of the year.

937
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 2: But he just has not gone in the IL with

938
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 2: any arm injury whatsoever. So I think you just got

939
00:45:58,200 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 2: to pray get another two hundred innings out of him.

940
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 2: Whether he's got a you know, a two point something

941
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 2: era or a three point something era, there's hope he's

942
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 2: there every fifth day pitching seven eight innings, and that's

943
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,399
Speaker 2: what you go for. I think the idea of him

944
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 2: having a season like he had this year is unlikely,

945
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 2: but I just hope that the durability is there. That's

946
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 2: the number one concern for me.

947
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, he summed it up really well. Yeah, Sandy, with

948
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 3: a few exceptions, there just are not a whole lot

949
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 3: of pitchers that do back to back seasons like that

950
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 3: in terms of both innings and the quality of those innings,

951
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 3: and with Sandy. I think if you lean one way

952
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 3: or another, you'd probably say that the quantity, like the

953
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:40,760
Speaker 3: volume of the innings is the thing that you trust

954
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 3: him most, just based on his track record, based on

955
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 3: his work ethic, Like that's what you can trust. It's

956
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 3: so hard to prevent runs like that, especially if you

957
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 3: are not a top of the scale strikeout guy, and

958
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 3: that's a trade off that he has to make. Last year,

959
00:46:55,719 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 3: everything went great where he he's a lot barn in play,

960
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 3: but he kept all those balls in the ballpark. He

961
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 3: turned a whole lot of double plays. He was really

962
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 3: efficient with those pitches as well, where he would get

963
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 3: those outs early in account. Like so many things went

964
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 3: right for him last year. He was building towards being

965
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 3: a great pitcher before and I have no doubt that

966
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 3: he's going to continue being a great pitcher for most

967
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 3: of his career moving forward. We just need to be

968
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:28,840
Speaker 3: a little realistic, where can't assume that he's going to

969
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 3: be the most valuable pitcher in baseball. Yet again, he's

970
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 3: the ace of this rotation and he continues to prove

971
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:39,879
Speaker 3: people wrong in every turn, Like every year he overachieves

972
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,439
Speaker 3: a little bit because on what you expected coming into

973
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 3: the year. And this is why it's such a fascinating test,

974
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 3: because there is nowhere hire for him to go as

975
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 3: an individual pitcher than he reached last year. And maybe

976
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 3: he does surprise us all. Maybe he does this. This

977
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 3: could be the year where he puts himself really on

978
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 3: a Hall of Fame track. If he repeats that, then

979
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 3: you need to start putting him in that discussion and

980
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 3: understanding how unique that is. I just want to keep

981
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 3: people's expectations a little bit realistic, where yeah, there's historically

982
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 3: history says that the league is going to find a

983
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 3: way to adjust to him, that all the mileage put

984
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 3: on his arm last year could come back to slow

985
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:24,320
Speaker 3: him down a little bit. He's still the aist of

986
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 3: this rotation, and I'm fascinated to see how it goes

987
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 3: because because of his history, I want to see what

988
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 3: it looks like when what it is that what is

989
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 3: going to keep motivating him to get better when he's

990
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 3: already the best in the game.

991
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: And that's kind of where what I want to get to.

992
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 1: You mentioned maybe stepping back of it, I mean the

993
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 1: stepping back of it's still a very dominant picture. Maybe

994
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: a three something RN. He was at a two something

995
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:54,240
Speaker 1: this year two six something. So if you're putting Sandy

996
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 1: and Era under maybe three something, I mean, still an

997
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: amazing picture. And maybe he does surpass to two hundred strikeouts,

998
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 1: but he'll definitely get over the two hundred innings and

999
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 1: you still feel very, very good. And Sandy will probably

1000
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 1: one of those early cy Young winners, early favorites to

1001
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 1: win the cy Young And so just wrap it up.

1002
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 1: Price Picks released their season betting off or season bets

1003
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:20,839
Speaker 1: over unders, and I'm gonna ask each of you over

1004
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 1: under one hundred and ninety seven point seven strikeouts for Sandy,

1005
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 1: And I'll start with Isaac.

1006
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 2: My number one tip stay away from those Vegas when

1007
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 2: it comes to over under points strikeout numbers over season

1008
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 2: innings pitch they are so betting on Vegas knows. Stay

1009
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 2: away from those props. But my they nail one hundred

1010
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 2: and einety seven point five strikeouts for Sandy. It's like

1011
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:48,359
Speaker 2: such a perfect number. I don't know, I would say,

1012
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 2: I would say under, Yeah, me too, Eli, I'll go

1013
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 2: over slightly over number. Yeah.

1014
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 1: I just stay because I think he'll rely a little

1015
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 1: bit more through the ground this year, especially with the

1016
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:01,799
Speaker 1: shift and all that.

1017
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:03,839
Speaker 2: I actually think the opposite is true. I think he's

1018
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 2: going to need to rely a little bit more on

1019
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:08,800
Speaker 2: getting guys out, you know. Oh yeah, and you know,

1020
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:11,760
Speaker 2: maybe I'll teage around because you know, three full seasons

1021
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 2: in the major leagues, three seasons of one hundred and

1022
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:16,879
Speaker 2: ninety five innings plus, and two of them were way

1023
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 2: over two hundred. So yeah, if you think if he's string,

1024
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 2: he's gonna get a strike up for any at least

1025
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 2: he's not a fourteen strike out for nine any guy,

1026
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 2: but he's at least eight and a half nine strikeouts

1027
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 2: per nine guy. So that's the case he should be

1028
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 2: able to go over. I would go. I would leave

1029
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,360
Speaker 2: myself a little edge and go under that number. And

1030
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 2: particular Yeah, me too.

1031
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:36,720
Speaker 1: All right, that's where we're gonna end it. Fifty minutes

1032
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 1: to not expect to go this long, but we did it.

1033
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:42,839
Speaker 1: So from Isaac, from my from my eline, myself. We'll

1034
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,360
Speaker 1: see you all next week, especially some great coverage. We

1035
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 1: have Noah going up there every day. Isaac will be

1036
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 1: up there tomorrow, I will be up there Monday Tuesday.

1037
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 1: A lot a lot of coverage coming up, So just

1038
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 1: follow fish strips dot Com all wherever you listen to

1039
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 1: your podcast. Subscribe YouTube, subscribe, We'll see you guys on

1040
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 1: the next one.

1041
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 2: Peace out and go fish.

1042
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 1: We gotta end it off right