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Speaker 1: He is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Drive. I am Dale Lolly, he is

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Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson and h Well Matt. The big news

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Speaker 2: for the Steelers. So obviously stuff going on. Actually, I

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Speaker 2: was reported earlier today, I think with Chefter tweeted out

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Speaker 2: that the Steelers are set to release Patrick Peterson. And

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Speaker 2: we also have Russell Wilson in town.

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Speaker 3: Today visiting with the Steelers.

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Speaker 2: He flew into New York earlier this morning, visited with

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Speaker 2: the Giants, and then on his way back to Denver,

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Speaker 2: was stopping in Pittsburgh for a visit. We've talked about this,

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Speaker 2: we talked about this several weeks ago. And while I

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Speaker 2: get portions of why, yeah, yeah, I know why they

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Speaker 2: would be interested in Russell Wilson because there's potential there

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Speaker 2: to get him at a very reduced rate.

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Speaker 3: It's an interesting situation.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't cost you anything to do so sure, I

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Speaker 2: don't know, like there are a lot of Steeler fans

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Speaker 2: from what I'm seeing, who are just automatically saying, oh,

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Speaker 2: he's he will automatically be the starter, and I don't

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Speaker 2: know that that's that they're gonna do that with him.

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Speaker 2: They're going to just hand him the job because of

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Speaker 2: some of the ancillary things they're involved with him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot. And another thing that happened since

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Speaker 3: we were, you know, convened two days ago, is Kean

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Speaker 3: O'Neil's been let go. So we have some defensive back

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Speaker 3: stuff we can talk.

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Speaker 2: And they're also going to entertain Mitch Morse, who we

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Speaker 2: talked about being released by the Bills on Wednesday.

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Speaker 3: So let's you don't focus on Wilson.

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, let's let's start with that.

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Speaker 3: That's the elephant in the room. You know. I think

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Speaker 3: you have to do due diligence on him and a

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Speaker 3: handful of quarterbacks. I mean, it's not the perfect market

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Speaker 3: for going to get a guy, I don't think by

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Speaker 3: any means. And you've talked about this at time, and

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Speaker 3: they're not giving up on Kenny Pickett. I think they

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Speaker 3: want to see him in Arthur Smith's offense. I think

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Speaker 3: all that stuff is great. And you mentioned Wilson. I mean,

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Speaker 3: if you were to sign him, it would be to

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Speaker 3: league minimum, which is a bargain potentially he could say no, right,

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Speaker 3: he could say no, but he's getting his money either way.

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Speaker 3: You know, Denver's getting him his money. I don't know

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Speaker 3: if he sees it that way. That's the only way

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Speaker 3: I would even entertain this thing. And if it was

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Speaker 3: me and he flies in, I would say, Russ, we

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Speaker 3: are interested and I'm not willing to hand you this

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Speaker 3: contract now for a league minimum deal for you to

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Speaker 3: compete with Kenny Pickett. And does that interest you? I mean,

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Speaker 3: that's that's the way the only way we're looking at

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Speaker 3: this thing. And if he's up for that, then I

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Speaker 3: think you have the next discussion. Okay, Well we'll get

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Speaker 3: back to you. You know, because other than those things,

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Speaker 3: I don't really love the fit.

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Speaker 2: I don't either. He doesn't throw over the middle of

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Speaker 2: the field to an obscene level, right, And it's got

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Speaker 2: worse and worse. Worse is his career has gone on. Yes,

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Speaker 2: people look at his numbers from leash Well, yeah, twenty

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Speaker 2: six touchdown passes in fifteen games.

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Speaker 3: That's good.

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Speaker 2: That's that's much better than Canny pick Att six and twelve.

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Speaker 2: There's noay fans or bouts about take that next year.

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Speaker 2: But they were getting blown out a lot early in

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Speaker 2: the season, so he's throwing touchdown passes in meaningless games

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Speaker 2: where they're you know, they lost the game to the

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Speaker 2: Dolphins seventy to twenty one. I believe he threw three

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Speaker 2: touchdown passes in that game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, at the end, at the end, like

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Speaker 3: a get it. They all count, They all count. I mean,

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Speaker 3: well gladly, no matter how you get there. What was

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Speaker 3: it was twenty nine, twenty six. If you got twenty

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Speaker 3: six touchdown passes from the Steeler quarterbacks next year, I

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Speaker 3: think we'd all take that. Yeah, I mean, that's a

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Speaker 3: nice bump. However, there are some other things.

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Speaker 2: There's a reason he got benched.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, they don't want to get hurt, they want

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Speaker 2: But he also takes a lot of sacks, a lot

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Speaker 2: of sacks. He's going to we talked about this before.

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Speaker 2: He's going to probably break if he if he becomes

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Speaker 2: a starter next year. He took forty five sacks last

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Speaker 2: year in fifteen games, so basically three sacks a game

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Speaker 2: in Denver, whose offensive line is not bad.

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Speaker 3: No, they just invested in a garden mclinchey and it's

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Speaker 2: So he has now been sacked five hundred and twenty

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Speaker 2: seven times in one hundred and eighty eight career.

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Speaker 3: Games, so many. Tom Brady is not getting better.

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Speaker 2: Tom Brady holds the old all time record with five

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Speaker 2: hundred and sixty six in three hundred and thirty five.

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Speaker 3: Games games, and he's and Ben's at the top of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Ben's Brady's like ten past Ben. But again they

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Speaker 2: played way more football than Russell Wilson has, and Russell

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Speaker 2: Wilson in two seasons in Denver took ninety sacks.

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Speaker 3: And late career Ben was not at the top, was

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Speaker 3: not taking sacks right, right, I mean early Ben fine,

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Speaker 3: early Wilson fine. So here's my take on him, as

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Speaker 3: I thought he was a declining player in Seattle, to

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Speaker 3: be honest with it, his last year and a half

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Speaker 3: in Seattle, aren't it really aren't pretty? And I think

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Speaker 3: the Seahawks were very anxious to get rid of them.

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Speaker 3: And you go back on podcasts I was on. I

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Speaker 3: was shocked they got what they did for him at

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Speaker 2: It's an unbelievable package.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and.

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Speaker 2: They got players, they got picks, They.

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Speaker 3: Got him out of the building. You know, they got

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Speaker 2: Got them, doubled down on it and gave him a huge,

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Speaker 2: five year, two hundred and forty two point six million

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean I thought Seattle won the trade and

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Speaker 3: then immediately immediately, and then Denver goes and does that

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Speaker 3: which is bonkers. So as a player, he's always even

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Speaker 3: not throwing over the middlefield. I mean, the fewest attempts

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Speaker 3: in hand sacks along with time to throw is always

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Speaker 3: very very high and fumbles and fumbles last year. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: And he used to get the big plays out of him,

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Speaker 3: the league has changed and is taking those things away.

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Speaker 3: You know, he's not seeing Seattle cover three all the time,

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Speaker 3: he's not seeing single high, he's not extending plays in

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Speaker 3: and he never became a middle of the field passer.

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Speaker 3: He was always a roller coaster player. He'd bail you

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Speaker 2: We're running around to make it. Yeah, like the off

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Speaker 2: the off schedule plays. He could do those like Ben,

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Speaker 2: like young Ben. Yeah, he can't do those anymore. But

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Speaker 2: he hasn't adjusted right like Roethlisberger did. Right, And he's

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Speaker 2: not six ' five right, he can't see the middle

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And he used to have short, little quick movements

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Speaker 3: into the pocket to find those throwing lanes to attack

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Speaker 3: the middle field more. He never was prolific at it,

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Speaker 3: but now it's worse and worse, and Sean Payton shoot

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Speaker 3: sidelines for not playing within script. He's not Drew Brees,

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Speaker 3: you know, he's not running that offensive way they want

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Speaker 2: I see both sides of it. I do too. I

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Speaker 2: would he wouldn't be my choice if they signed him.

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Speaker 2: I would get it. Yeah, I mean I could see

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Speaker 2: what I could see it where he's not.

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Speaker 3: A terrible player, no, Yeah, I still think he's a

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Speaker 3: Hall of Fame, right, it's not playing at a Hall

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Speaker 3: of Fame level, but he's get in. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The question that the Steelers have to ask themselves. Let's

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Speaker 2: say Russell Wilson is quarterback eighteen, nineteen twenty, somewhere in

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Speaker 2: that range, which I think is probably about where he's at.

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Speaker 3: I would say that's where that settles it nowadays.

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Speaker 2: So they have to ask themselves, is is he that's

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Speaker 2: his ceiling?

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Speaker 3: Most likely?

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Speaker 2: I don't think he's get back. No. I don't think

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Speaker 2: he's going to suddenly go back to because he's been

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Speaker 3: It's been a while now, right, and he's not going

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Speaker 2: You have to ask yourself, can he do it? It?

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Speaker 2: Is that ceiling going to be better? Or does that?

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Speaker 2: Is that floor better than what Kenny Pickett's ceiling could

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Speaker 2: be in Arthur Smith's offense?

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Speaker 3: Right? Like, would the Steelers have been a better team

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Speaker 2: Maybe?

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Speaker 3: But it's kind of the Field's argument too, that the

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Speaker 3: negatives are this team has not done well when the

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Speaker 3: a lot of sacks, and both those guys.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna play a much different way.

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Speaker 3: You're going to play a much different way, and you're

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Speaker 3: hopefully you get a noticeable, noticeable more of it, you know,

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Speaker 3: like him throwing long balls to pickings. Oh, I get Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's exciting stuff, you know, I mean, I get it. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I don't know, and Isaaka fits Smith's offense is.

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Speaker 2: The It's the same thing that you had to ask

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Speaker 2: yourself with Fields. Let's say, let's say if you made

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Speaker 2: the trade for Justin Fields and you average four more

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that sounds tremendous.

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Speaker 2: That sounds tremendous. But because of the turnovers that he

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Speaker 2: that they have, your defense gives up four more points

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Speaker 3: And they're on the field two more minutes a game, right,

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Speaker 3: you know, over the course of the year, and you're

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Speaker 3: not playing with leads or yeah, I mean, it's.

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Speaker 2: They played a very specific style the last few years, and.

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Speaker 3: I think we all realize that style needs to get

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Speaker 3: more aggressive and produce more points.

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Speaker 2: You know, like you can't live that way forever. But

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Speaker 2: they're the you know, their hope is and has been

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Speaker 2: is that well Pickett is going to continue to get better.

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Speaker 2: And Omar Cohn said that at.

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Speaker 3: The at the the con quarterback play is going to

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Speaker 3: get better.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited at what to see what Kenny Pickett can

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Speaker 3: Yes, I think that's the bottom line is that's the

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Speaker 2: That's not me saying that, that's Omar Kahn saying last week.

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Speaker 3: I mean last week, Tannehill, Wilson, Fields, Rudolph. I don't

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Speaker 3: And I have a hard time commenting on these things,

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Speaker 3: It's catastrophic. So they're cutting like they hit. That's why

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Speaker 3: Yeah to be that that guy. And oh, by the way,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely. But yeah, so some interesting stuff they're going

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Speaker 3: There's so much changing right now. I mean absolutely lot more.

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Speaker 2: Time we get back on the ear on Monday, tampering

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's going to be a lot different.

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Speaker 2: There's be a lot of tampering. It's legal tampering that

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. I am Dale LOLLI he is the Matt

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Speaker 2: Williamson except no others as no substitutes. Looking here at

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Speaker 2: NFL dot com. They have a breakdown here of their

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Speaker 2: perceived needs for every NFL team going out to free agency.

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Speaker 2: They also have how much cap space they had. This

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Speaker 2: That's going to be changing in flux.

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Speaker 3: Every teams are flying around. I would hate to be one.

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Speaker 3: Guys are how much cap spaces they have will change

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Speaker 2: Everybody has to be under the cap by next Wednesday?

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Speaker 3: Is that okay? I was a positive on that. Okay, Yeah, I.

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Speaker 2: Think it's Wednesday at four o'clock.

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Speaker 3: There'll be more cuts.

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Speaker 2: They'll get under the cap at that point.

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Speaker 2: So their needs for the Steelers quarterback, offensive tackle, cornerback.

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Speaker 2: I agree. I don't know if I put it in

440
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Speaker 2: that order. Oh, I think corners number one. Corners should

441
00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:27,040
Speaker 2: be number one. You have a starting quarterback, yeah, yeah,

442
00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:30,320
Speaker 2: and you have you have two starting tackles. You just

443
00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:33,600
Speaker 2: cut a starting cornerback and your other the other guy

444
00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:35,040
Speaker 2: that you would would have been in the mix is

445
00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:39,080
Speaker 2: also gone, as is your nickel. Oh yeah, secondary is depleted. Yeah,

446
00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:41,639
Speaker 2: corner is a huge need. They also cut Kean O'Neil,

447
00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:43,440
Speaker 2: who started a lot of games for them at strong

448
00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:44,320
Speaker 2: safety last year.

449
00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,240
Speaker 3: Yeah. Secondary is pretty barren. Yeah right now, so that

450
00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:48,639
Speaker 3: center is pretty barren too.

451
00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:50,800
Speaker 2: Center. Yeah, you don't have a starting center.

452
00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,920
Speaker 3: Center right now? Well, you have a place they could start,

453
00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,720
Speaker 3: you know, an inside linebacker is a yes, yeah, I

454
00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:59,640
Speaker 3: mean they got plenty of needs. Yeah, they let them.

455
00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:01,720
Speaker 3: I don't have a problem with the three they listed,

456
00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,080
Speaker 3: but the ones we had are stronger in some ways. Yeah.

457
00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:07,399
Speaker 2: As of this writing, they had about eight million dollars

458
00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:08,119
Speaker 2: in cap space.

459
00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:09,919
Speaker 3: Okay, so more now.

460
00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:13,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, releasing Peterson gets you about sixteen. Neil picked up two.

461
00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,080
Speaker 2: I think Neil picked up two. So there's yeah, there's

462
00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,920
Speaker 2: so you're in the eighteen neighborhood. Yeah, you've got some

463
00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,320
Speaker 2: you got some mad money to play around.

464
00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,080
Speaker 3: With, and Robinson's gonna do something at some point.

465
00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,840
Speaker 2: I would assume that maybe happens before Wednesday, I would think, so. Yeah,

466
00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:31,479
Speaker 2: So that's that's where the Steeler says. So let's take

467
00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,040
Speaker 2: a look here at the rest of the AFC, and

468
00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:37,320
Speaker 2: they have these in alphabetical orders. So Baltimore leads things off.

469
00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:39,640
Speaker 2: The needs are offensive line.

470
00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,119
Speaker 3: Both starting, both guards are up, both guards are up,

471
00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,679
Speaker 3: both tackles Stanley.

472
00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's still offensive and.

473
00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,480
Speaker 3: Not reproductive and injured a lot.

474
00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, So offensive line, wide receiver, and edge.

475
00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:54,800
Speaker 3: Agreed.

476
00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:58,400
Speaker 2: I guess three three expensive things to need in free agency.

477
00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:00,840
Speaker 3: They are because no linees more than one guy. Yeah,

478
00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,040
Speaker 3: I do think they need an edge. I mean their

479
00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,200
Speaker 3: best two were van Noy and Clowney, and they're both

480
00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:07,120
Speaker 3: both up. Yeah. I mean they got some young guys

481
00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,560
Speaker 3: that got away in a jabo. Bateman has not been

482
00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,600
Speaker 3: what they expected in the first round. Say, Flowers is

483
00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:15,119
Speaker 3: a good place. It's basically is eight Flowers and that's

484
00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:15,560
Speaker 3: it right.

485
00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,119
Speaker 2: Now, right now, yeah, right now, and right now, as

486
00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,320
Speaker 2: of this as we sit here, they're minus ten million.

487
00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:23,520
Speaker 3: Yeah. Say, they're not nearly just cap friendly though.

488
00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,280
Speaker 2: So they have to do some additional stuff now that

489
00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,360
Speaker 2: could probably do some things with Lamar's contract, yep, since

490
00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,800
Speaker 2: he just signed it last year, but that's going to

491
00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:35,240
Speaker 2: kick his future years of course, of course, you know

492
00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:36,560
Speaker 2: that when you signed him to that deal.

493
00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,120
Speaker 3: Though, I would think Roque's a candidate for that too.

494
00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,560
Speaker 3: He got a recent big deal and anyone else that

495
00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,200
Speaker 3: really fits that mold because by the way, they also

496
00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:44,800
Speaker 3: need a running back.

497
00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:46,760
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, they don't have any run Yeah yeah, they

498
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,639
Speaker 2: tag Meta Bouquet, right, so you know what that cost is.

499
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,560
Speaker 2: You'd love to get something done with him that lowers that.

500
00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:53,200
Speaker 3: That's what I'm say. It'd be nice to get a

501
00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,040
Speaker 3: three year deal done with him, or he's a ten

502
00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,119
Speaker 3: million dollar hit not a twenty million dollars hit or

503
00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,160
Speaker 3: whatever it is, and that might happen, but who knows.

504
00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,040
Speaker 2: But those are tricky because and you picked late in

505
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:02,560
Speaker 2: the first round.

506
00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, right, No, it's real tricky.

507
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,719
Speaker 2: So they get bigger issues. And I think a lot

508
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:10,159
Speaker 2: of people are talking.

509
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:13,119
Speaker 3: About Buffalo and Miami really come to mind, but Baltimore's

510
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,960
Speaker 3: not far off of teams that free agency could be

511
00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:17,000
Speaker 3: the most unkind to.

512
00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:21,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, h Buffalo, they're another one there.

513
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 3: We know.

514
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:26,000
Speaker 2: We talk about Morse needs wide receiver, no doubt safety.

515
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 2: They've got rid of the sign Taylor Rap. Yeah, but

516
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:31,880
Speaker 2: he's a two or three.

517
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 3: But yeah, in.

518
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,399
Speaker 2: Defensive line, which is crazy because they've drafted defensive lineman

519
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:37,080
Speaker 2: like nuts.

520
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:38,760
Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't know who their new center is.

521
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:41,720
Speaker 2: They redid Von Miller's contract, which.

522
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:44,720
Speaker 3: So they're getting under it. I mean they have a

523
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 3: little flexibility, but they lost some serious stuff.

524
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're still nine million under the cap.

525
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,400
Speaker 3: Over the cap, yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't think they'll

526
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 3: be buyers.

527
00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 2: No, no, I mean that's why they had to get

528
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,359
Speaker 2: rid of guys like Mitch Morris who can still play.

529
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,639
Speaker 3: They also signed Strubisky back, folks. You haven't heard that

530
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,760
Speaker 3: since we got together, which I don't quite understand. Of

531
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 3: all the moves I'll be making right the second, that

532
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 3: wouldn't have been it. But fine. Yeah.

533
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 2: Uh, the Bengals have forty eight and a half million

534
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:14,560
Speaker 2: dollars in cap space.

535
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:16,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're not bad in that shape that way.

536
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:21,440
Speaker 2: Needs are defensive tackle readers, up readers, up tight ends.

537
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:23,879
Speaker 2: They don't. They don't have any on the zero. In

538
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 2: offensive tackle, they need a right tackle and I would.

539
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,159
Speaker 3: Say corners not far off too. It would be a fourth,

540
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,120
Speaker 3: but it's a woozy a. It surprised me too, if.

541
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 2: Safety is kind of a It hasn't been a great

542
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 2: need for them. The safeties weren't great last year, and

543
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:42,639
Speaker 2: I think ideally, to me, Dax Hill should be their slot.

544
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 3: They're slot joker that guy. Yeah, and they're playing they're

545
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,239
Speaker 3: playing in full time at safety as well, and it's

546
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 3: a true safety might go a long way and someone's

547
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,680
Speaker 3: kind of a Baits type. Yeah, they missed him dramatically. Yeah,

548
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 3: it's a small need, but mixing is not gonna be

549
00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,240
Speaker 3: back either. I mean, Chase Brown looks like their starter,

550
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,440
Speaker 3: but that could be a round pick or something too. Yeah.

551
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 3: I mean they have the cap space, but I mean

552
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:06,920
Speaker 3: they could keep Jonan Williams or Reader if they want it.

553
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 2: It'll probably keep them both. But yeah, you've also have

554
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 2: some contract stuff coming up here with your receivers.

555
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,680
Speaker 3: Chase is coming up soon. Yeah that's expensive. Yeah. Yeah,

556
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 3: they're not in terrible shape, but their needs aren't easy

557
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 3: to fill either.

558
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, Cleveland has six point eight million dollars in available

559
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:31,680
Speaker 2: cap space, and that's after they've already done some like

560
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 2: some I don't know stuff.

561
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 3: If for will they do anything with the Shawn.

562
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 2: I don't think they can anymore like they could. But

563
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 2: it's now you're really kicking it.

564
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 3: Say it's really kicking it bad?

565
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 2: Okay.

566
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,400
Speaker 3: I mean he's gonna get his guarantee money either way,

567
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,200
Speaker 3: you could bump it. But if he's not good, yeah.

568
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 2: If you if you move that money around again, all

569
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 2: of a sudden in twenty twenty six, he's his value

570
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 2: goes up over seventy.

571
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 3: More and then he may be a you know, not

572
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 3: even worth on a team.

573
00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:00,200
Speaker 2: What he has produced on the field doesn't lend itself.

574
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 3: No problem, right right. It's not like Lamar Burrow or

575
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 3: one of these guys, you know, right.

576
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,399
Speaker 2: They did it with Jeddrick Willis. They moved some of

577
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 2: his day around and he's not great. No, he's not great.

578
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 3: It's a running back, so it's not the end of

579
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 3: the world. But the Chubb situation is a little sticky too.

580
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:19,159
Speaker 3: He's making too much and they've already said he's not

581
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 3: gonna be ready for their opening day. But they don't

582
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 3: want to get rid of them. But who knows what

583
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 3: you do there? What do they have as their needs?

584
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 3: They could come up with a couple yeah, wide receiver, Yeah,

585
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 3: defensive tackle without question, offensive tackle. Yeah, I don't think

586
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,439
Speaker 3: Wills will be back past this year. Jones is going

587
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 3: to be a starter though. I mean, I don't know

588
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 3: if Jones, Yeah, I don't think it's like threatening next year.

589
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 3: But it was late in the year.

590
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 2: It was late in the year.

591
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 3: It was late in the year. I think they're happy

592
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 3: with him though.

593
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 2: He's a big guy. Yeah, like I get you know,

594
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,160
Speaker 2: it was definitely a lower body. It was a leg

595
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 2: or knee or something.

596
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:55,359
Speaker 3: One thing they've gon for though, is, you know, we

597
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 3: always talk about like the top fifty free agents. There's

598
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,200
Speaker 3: no Steelers on there. I don't think there's any Browns.

599
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 2: Either, unless somehow Haunter made it onto the not.

600
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,439
Speaker 3: The D Lineman, the D Linman. Yeah, he's maybe their

601
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,440
Speaker 3: only name, yeahs Darius Smith, Darry Smith. Okay, yeah, yeah,

602
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 3: I was trying to think. I don't think they have

603
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:18,159
Speaker 3: any prominent free agents. Defense is still pretty young. You know,

604
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 3: a couple of those guys we need contracts, Anthony Walker

605
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,160
Speaker 3: and Tacky Tacky or yeah, they're both up. Yeah, Okay,

606
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 3: I mean maybe maybe somewhere in.

607
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 2: The get a linebacker. You know, we'll see what's up

608
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 2: with Conklin also the first round pick. Yeah, they don't

609
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:33,680
Speaker 2: have that. My concern with that.

610
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:34,640
Speaker 3: Then Conklin's gone.

611
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 2: Well, they're saying he's expected back and healthy.

612
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 3: Really, I assume Jones would just take his job and

613
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:40,679
Speaker 3: they'd cut him.

614
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 2: The thing with Jones, if he's sitting around being injured

615
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 2: in the Yeah, it can't work out because he's got

616
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:50,639
Speaker 2: a leg injury. You know what, does he go up

617
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 2: over four hundred pounds? Probably? I think that's just what

618
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 2: he is. Yeah, yeah, that's his natural what he gets to. Yeah,

619
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,080
Speaker 2: so that that's always a concern with the guy like that. No,

620
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 2: no doubt Denver.

621
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 3: Denver is kind of a mess.

622
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 2: Still two point six million dollars over the cap. Yeah, yeah,

623
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 2: despite all the movies. Even the Simmons move right, quarterback,

624
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 2: wide receiver, cornerback, defensive line.

625
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 3: They're going to try to trade Sutton or Judy. I

626
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 3: mean that's why they're saying receiver line's not terrible. I

627
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 3: mean they could put minors at center. They spend some

628
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 3: money there. Bulls is okay. Defense kind of needs every

629
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 3: little bit of everything. I mean, their edge rushers aren't

630
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 3: what they used to.

631
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 2: Would you kick the tires on Justin Simmons.

632
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he's a really good player. Yeah, he's a

633
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 3: really good player. He's already been rumored heavy to the

634
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 3: Eagles because of the Fangio connection, and you know, I

635
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 3: think he was making like ten ish. I don't know

636
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 3: if I'm in that neighborhood, but probably not calling his agent.

637
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 2: Yeah you see what the story is with him. Yeah,

638
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 2: he could still help for sure. Yeah, Houston has errics

639
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 2: seventy million dollars in Captchase needs your cornerback, defensive tackle,

640
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 2: running back, slash linebacker.

641
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, all those things. I think anything on defense, they

642
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 3: wouldn't turn their nose up hot. It's a nine or

643
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 3: like defensive scheme. They won a lot of defensive linemen.

644
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 3: I think they might be a Saquon Barkley team. I

645
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 3: don't know if he fits what they want to do though, Yeah,

646
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 3: I mean I just think they could be a like

647
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 3: they won a one cut. Yes, they type runner, that's

648
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 3: a good point, but I can see them being a

649
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:30,199
Speaker 3: splash running back team. I could maybe Paul.

650
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 2: Say Derek Henry going there for oh Man, that would

651
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 2: make some sense. Yeah, and you're still playing in the

652
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 2: same division now he gets to play against both of

653
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 2: his former teams and run it up on both of them.

654
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 2: Like that would make some sense.

655
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 3: That would make some sense. Yeah, I could see him

656
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 3: being interested in that.

657
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 2: The Colts have forty nine point two million dollars available.

658
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 2: They always do, they always do. Yeah, they never spend it.

659
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, they I don't know if they need a big

660
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 3: ticket item, but they should be a little more, a

661
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 3: little less frugal.

662
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 2: Cornerback, wide receiver, defensive tackle.

663
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

664
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 3: I don't see massive needs. Like if they didn't address

665
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 3: one of those.

666
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 2: Grover Stewart's up for them.

667
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 3: He's up. You know They're there.

668
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 2: They were not good without him last year.

669
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 3: No, he's a good player. So more of a run

670
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 3: stuffer anywhere on the d line wouldn't be a terrible addition. Yeah, receivers, receiver,

671
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 3: but yeah, better than Pierce would be nice. Yeah, Downs,

672
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 3: I think is a decent player. If a brock Bauers

673
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 3: was sitting there, I bet they jump on them. You know,

674
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 3: their tight ends are just four dudes.

675
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Jacksonville, they're messier than you think. They have

676
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 2: twenty four million, twenty four and a half million in

677
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 2: cap space. They just cut a couple of guys. They're

678
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 2: just they're cutting starters like they do it every year.

679
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 3: Two years after you signed with jacksonvill you get cut.

680
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 2: Needs are wide receiver, defensive line, interior, offensive line? Well,

681
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 2: they just signed both of their starting guards to extensions. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

682
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 2: maybe they didn't catch on to that. Yeah, I mean

683
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 2: maybe they can still use a center, I.

684
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 3: Guess, Yeah, they could, and another tackles though would would

685
00:29:58,080 --> 00:29:58,959
Speaker 3: be all right too.

686
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, and certainly wide receiver. Yeah, but they're always in

687
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 2: the market for wise receivers. It's crazy.

688
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 3: Ridley's up Jay Jones could get cut. Secondary is not great.

689
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, they released both Rayshawn Jenkins three actually Rayshawn Jenkins

690
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 2: Darius Williams and fully fed a Casasi.

691
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, big good defensive tackle. They just overspent on those guys.

692
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 2: Kansas City. That's three point four million in available space

693
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 2: wide receiver, left tackle, defensive tackle.

694
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 3: Now Chris Jones is not a chief rumored to be

695
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 3: something in the works.

696
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, sneak can go to the Bank of Mahomes, Mahomes

697
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 2: and clear a bunch of space.

698
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think that's coming either way. Offensive

699
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 3: tackle and receiver is the one I'd be most both.

700
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 2: I would want to replace both. Offensive tackles. Yeah, not

701
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 2: just left tackle.

702
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 3: I think they're married to Walker, you know, because they

703
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 3: gave him big money. But Darnovan Smith's up, there's no

704
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 3: way they bring him. Don't bring him back. No, I

705
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 3: think they need a tackle, and they need a field stretcher,

706
00:30:58,160 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 3: and their defense is gonnaet picked through a little bit.

707
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 3: They were signed tranquil today.

708
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 2: More than just yeah, so more than just a field stretcher.

709
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 2: They could just use a competent wide receive a true

710
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 2: number one, because I don't I don't think Rice is

711
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 2: Rice to me, doesn't profile is a true number one.

712
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 3: I don't think he's like a boundary X George Pickings type.

713
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, they could do something like that.

714
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I bet you could get that in the draft. Yeah.

715
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 3: I say their first pick could be you know, someone

716
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 3: along those lines Coleman or something like that. Yeah. Okay,

717
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 3: at the end of the first round.

718
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 2: The Raiders they need everything forty one point six million

719
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 2: dollars they have available.

720
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good part.

721
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 2: Quarterback, offensive line, defensive tackle.

722
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 3: I don't know what they don't need. Tight end is fine. Receivers, okay,

723
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 3: I mean past catchers in general, but even like Josh

724
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 3: Jacobs is up.

725
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 2: You can find running.

726
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm Examer White was fine at the end of

727
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 3: the year two. But I mean, what's what are you

728
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 3: happy with on defense?

729
00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 2: I mean it's the edge guys Andre James, right guard

730
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 2: Greg van Roten, and right tackle Jermaine ilumin Or they're

731
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 2: all up. I didn't realize Van Roten was too, But yeah,

732
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 2: so your entire right side of you, from your center

733
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:09,479
Speaker 2: over on the right side of your line is up.

734
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

735
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 2: The tackles weren't good to begin with. Corners weren't good

736
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 2: to begin with. There. I think they're gonna be one

737
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 2: of worst team in the league next year. I don't

738
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 2: know if I go that far. I don't know if

739
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 2: they're the worst team in their division.

740
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 3: Well, I think that in Denver.

741
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 2: Denver's gonna be bad, bad, bad.

742
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 3: And to the quarterbacks for both those teams, yea to me.

743
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 2: That's where Russell Wilson said the same thing. I can't

744
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 2: believe the Raiders the immediate Well, first of all, maybe

745
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 2: Denver won't give him permission to go talk to the Raivers,

746
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 2: but cut these days, they're gonna cut him. Nothing screams

747
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 2: Raiders more than having Oh my god, Al Davis is

748
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 2: coming back from the dead to say, no, you will

749
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 2: sign Russell Wilson. He's because Denver is going to pay

750
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 2: him to play for us.

751
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 3: Yes, he's in his son's dreams as we speak. Yeah,

752
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,239
Speaker 3: that is such a move. I mean, you gotta be kidding, right,

753
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 3: I think that's where I think it is too. Yeah,

754
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 3: it's a tough place to find landing spots for him.

755
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's certainly better than the O'Connell. Oh yeah,

756
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 2: and throwing to those receivers.

757
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 3: Right right, Yeah, they would give you a chance.

758
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 2: The Chargers still twenty million dollars over the cap. Any cornerback, linebacker,

759
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 2: wide receiver.

760
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 3: Maybe a right tackle, running back, running back for sure.

761
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 3: Eckler's not going to be back. The needs aren't crazy,

762
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 3: it's just they're going to create more needs in the

763
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 3: between now wins. Yeah, you know, I mean they're Mike

764
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 3: Williams is gonna get cut tight ends another one. Ever,

765
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 3: it's up I think too. At least they have picks,

766
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 3: but they're not gonna be able to buy stuff. No,

767
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 3: the Dolphins, they're kind of a message. There's twenty point

768
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 3: four million dollars over the cap. Despite some of the

769
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 3: moves that they've made.

770
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 2: Rome Baker I would be yeah. Yeah, he's another one

771
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 2: just going still twenty eight Yeah yeah, make place all Yeah,

772
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 2: offensive line, defensive line and safe.

773
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 3: I guess I mean corner to place Howard would be nice.

774
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 2: They drafted South Carolina.

775
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they did Smith second round pick, so at

776
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 3: least there's somebody there, someone to replaced Baker defensive tackle

777
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,879
Speaker 3: for sure. I guess safety. Holland's a really good player.

778
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 3: I don't know who their other guy is off the

779
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 3: top of my head. Their offensive line is kind of

780
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 3: a mess. Win is up, Williams is up, Armstead could retire.

781
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 3: They did sign a tight end. What tight end did

782
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 3: they sign? J? Smith Smith? Yeah? Yeah, Van ginks up

783
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 3: and Van gnkles up as well. Yeah, and Tyreeks already

784
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:40,879
Speaker 3: said he's only playing like a year or two more. Yeah,

785
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 3: I think you worry about that way down the line. Yeah,

786
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 3: and they gotta resigned to him. That's a big one.

787
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 2: Other than that, Yeah, they're they're up against it the

788
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 2: least the Patriots. They have eighty eight point seventy five

789
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,399
Speaker 2: million dollars to spend. They just signed Chokes a quarters

790
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 2: for yesterday.

791
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not a bad move. Figured he'd get picked

792
00:34:59,040 --> 00:34:59,919
Speaker 3: up in the coming days.

793
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 2: Quarterback, wide receiver, offensive tackle.

794
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,359
Speaker 3: They needed the whole offense. Yeah, I mean it really does.

795
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 3: I mean, beside Ramandra Stevenson, they're a couple decent offensive

796
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 3: players or offensive linemen. They're up, you know, Illenna who

797
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,399
Speaker 3: and the big fellow. Yeah.

798
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 2: I mean they just gave Hunter Henry a three year,

799
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:18,240
Speaker 2: twenty seven million dollar.

800
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 3: Oh they send him Yeah, Oh, I didn't know that,

801
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 3: which is way overpaying. That's a lot. That's twice they've

802
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 3: overpaid him. Okay, but that did a fun job to

803
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 3: take over as GM. I mean, all that cap space,

804
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 3: early picks. You have a defense, but the offense.

805
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 2: Is so far you have a defense, but for how long?

806
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 3: Probably not? I mean your defensive minded head coach. You

807
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 3: hope that that maintains care Yeah, but I mean he's

808
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 3: not Belichick.

809
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 2: I heard some things coming out of there, Like I

810
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 2: talked to some guys at the Senior Bowl and they

811
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 2: said last year was really really weird up there, really

812
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 2: because you had the new head the guy who just

813
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 2: got hired as a huge knew he was going to

814
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 2: be high as his head coach was told and acted

815
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 2: like he didn't have to listen to Belichick. He was

816
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 2: just doing his own thing. Yeah, and it showed on

817
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 2: the face, showed.

818
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, it almost has to be better. I would assume

819
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 3: they'll take a quarterback of three. It's a start. I

820
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 3: would sign Bersett. I'd consider it taking Marvin at three,

821
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 3: but I think they'll take May try to build a

822
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,919
Speaker 3: line in free agency, which is always a bad idea. Yeah,

823
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 3: and they definitely need more weapons.

824
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 2: The Jets have twenty point seven million dollars in cap

825
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 2: space offensive tackle, safety, defensive tackle.

826
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 3: I'd say another wide out too.

827
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,919
Speaker 2: Another wide out wouldn't hurt because all the old guys

828
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 2: that you signed are friends of Aaron f Oay. Oh yeah,

829
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 2: those guys need to go. Yeah, what would you do

830
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 2: a quarterback? A quarterback?

831
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:55,879
Speaker 3: I mean, I know it's Rogers, but yeah, I want

832
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 3: some kind of backup in his age. I mean, I

833
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 3: think i'd spend money on a back up.

834
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 2: I'd go get Flacco back. Yeah, I mean, like frankly,

835
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 2: i'd love them make you should have let Flacco go

836
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 2: last year, like.

837
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 3: Right, Like i'd want Mason Rudolph if I were the

838
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 3: something something, I mean, something that's I can kind of

839
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 3: count on. Yeah, maybe Jimmy g or something. I don't know.

840
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 2: Uh, Tennessee seventy five point eight million dollars available. I

841
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 2: think they're gonna be active offensive tackle, wide receiver, cornerback, yeah, center, Uh,

842
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 2: they could really use anything on the offensive. Yeah, the

843
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:35,399
Speaker 2: whole Kronski's the only ones.

844
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, really, pencil man. The defense isn't that much better either. No,

845
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 3: you got Simmons and yeah, you got two or three

846
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 3: guys and some of the okay pieces, but they're a

847
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 3: year away from being your way maybe two. Yeah, and

848
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 3: that's if Levis is a hit.

849
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, real quick, here, let's run through the NFC. You

850
00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 2: got the Cardinals with fifty six point six million available

851
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 2: in space.

852
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 3: They're rumored to be very active.

853
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. You get the Falcons at thirty seven point two

854
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,399
Speaker 2: that could all go to Kirk Cousins. The Panthers only

855
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 2: have eleven point nine, which is crazy.

856
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 3: We haven't talked about this much, but they're if you

857
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 3: pull up their spot track cap it's like as bad

858
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 3: as a chargement.

859
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,720
Speaker 2: Who are they paying? And they're the worst and fifteen

860
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 2: last year.

861
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 3: Like their cap hits are like Adam Thielen and like,

862
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 3: I mean, they're a poorly run organization.

863
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 2: The Bears have a seventy seventy five point three million

864
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 2: dollars of shape. Yeah, the Cowboys only have one point

865
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 2: eight million. They gonna do something with Dax.

866
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 3: Dak, Braham, and Micah are all looming, so they're not

867
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 3: going to be I wouldn't think so. I think who

868
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 3: there's lots of thought. The Tyron SPI's gonna leave. Yeah,

869
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 3: I mean he's gonna hit the market.

870
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 2: So it's beat us. Yeah, they can't afford those guys.

871
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 3: I'd be interested in Beatish too. Yeah.

872
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 2: Detroit has forty six point seven million available.

873
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that'll go to a corner and edge

874
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 3: in a defensive tackles to the draft.

875
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 2: The Packers have thirteen point six.

876
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 3: They're never super active, but yeah.

877
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 2: The Rams have forty point eight.

878
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 3: I bet they do some stuff. Yeah.

879
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 2: They just gave Kevin Dotson big money.

880
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, good for him.

881
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 2: The Vikings thirty seven point one million.

882
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:24,720
Speaker 3: Their strategy has to be so much different if Cousins

883
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 3: comes back or does Oh yeah, I mean like all

884
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:31,240
Speaker 3: of our spending everything needs I mean there's two pass

885
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 3: I mean, if he comes back, you're gonna pay Jefferson.

886
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 3: Let's try to win the division. Let's try to win

887
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 3: the thing. Otherwise you pay Jefferson and go yack young

888
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 3: young everywhere else.

889
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 2: You know.

890
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a weird team. Pivotal team.

891
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 2: Saints are still ten point seven million over the cap. Yeah,

892
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 2: they're not going to be active. No, the Giants have

893
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 2: thirty eight point three million dollars.

894
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, quarterbacks are issue, but yeah, you would think that

895
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 3: they could put it more around the quarterback this upcoming year.

896
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 2: The Eagles have forty two point nine million dollars available.

897
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, they got some needs.

898
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,359
Speaker 2: The forty nine ers are just just over the cap,

899
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 2: two hundred and eighty five million over the or two

900
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty five thousand dollars over the cap.

901
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 3: They have some big name guys they could restructure. They

902
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 3: have Ayukluom and I.

903
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,720
Speaker 2: Think they did it today with Colton mckivitz. That probably

904
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 2: puts someone who's.

905
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 3: Good under uh.

906
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:24,439
Speaker 2: Seattle is forty one point six million over or under

907
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 2: the cap. I should say.

908
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 3: I think they're going to redo their whole defense, basically

909
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 3: make it raven.

910
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 2: Like Tampa Bay fourteen point seven to eight million dollars.

911
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 3: I think Baker could get done like this weekend. Yeah,

912
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 3: I mean, I think they're pushing hard for that after

913
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 3: the Evans signing.

914
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 2: And then Washington commanding five million in.

915
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 3: Cap space, you hope is kind of a new organization.

916
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 3: They just don't blow it all, you know, and use it.

917
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 3: They will wisely, but I bet they don't use it

918
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 3: real well.

919
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's a real attractive place to go.

920
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 3: I don't know either. I meant to be part of

921
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 3: the rebuild. I don't be part of the new generation.

922
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 3: A new quarterback, new coach, but still stinky around here

923
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 3: and we're not gonna win any games.

924
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, that's the cap situation as we head

925
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,240
Speaker 2: into a Monday, as we sit here on Friday.

926
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 3: Button.

927
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 2: But yeah, so that's where everybody's changing fast man. Absolutely,

928
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,600
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929
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:23,719
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930
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931
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Speaker 2: Dale Lollie and you're listening to the drive here on

943
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 2: Steelers Nation Radio and Matt. One of the things that

944
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 2: we didn't talk a ton about when we were talking

945
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 2: about potential free agents is punters. Oh okay, I knowed

946
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,959
Speaker 2: you hate talking about those guys. It's something's gonna happen

947
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:28,240
Speaker 2: and it's very important. But we just saw Jake Bailey

948
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 2: just resign a two year deal with the Dolphins, so

949
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 2: he'll stay. He's going to be an unrestricted free agent.

950
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,919
Speaker 2: So that's one punter taking off the market. And they're

951
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 2: not super expensive.

952
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 3: No, of course you need them, but and you'd like

953
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 3: to have one, like So what pro we we haven't

954
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 3: talked about this at all. Do you think they go

955
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,839
Speaker 3: to the draft? Do you think they go super cheap

956
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 3: and bring in like two of them and just see

957
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 3: if they catch lightning in a bottle or do you

958
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,800
Speaker 3: think they go get a name that's been in the

959
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 3: league and pay him and he's the one guy and

960
00:42:58,000 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 3: camp basically?

961
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:00,720
Speaker 2: Well, I mean I would I would certainly be interested

962
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:01,919
Speaker 2: in bringing him Brayden Man.

963
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 3: Ah, Okay, we have touched on this, but it's been

964
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 3: a while.

965
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:08,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been a little while. He signed with Philadelphia

966
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 2: last year after the Steelers released him and kept Presley

967
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 2: Harvin and had a good year the Eagles. Use yea

968
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 2: had a good year in this area of the country

969
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 2: and kicked kicked in this weather. So he's up, Yeah

970
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 2: he is. He just signed a one year deal with

971
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:26,760
Speaker 2: with Philadelphia, so it matters.

972
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 3: But how old is he?

973
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 2: Twenty six?

974
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 3: I mean he could be thirty six. I don't care.

975
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's the thing with with punters. So

976
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 2: you look at it now, Thomas Moristead is going to

977
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 2: be thirty eight.

978
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 3: Now that's too Yeah, it's probably about done.

979
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not going to do that. Tommy Townsend's out there,

980
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,879
Speaker 2: you know who. Somebody seems Tommy town barely punted last

981
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 2: year because he was with Kansas City.

982
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, so.

983
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 2: But he kicked me, he's kicked in big games.

984
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 3: He's been around. Yeah.

985
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 2: Sometimes sometimes he kicks him big games. Sometimes they don't

986
00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 2: punt at all.

987
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 3: I know the Hunt King got signed by somebody after

988
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 3: he's a Kansas, Kansas city. Okay, that's why that.

989
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 2: Move Towns is going to be available.

990
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 3: Okay, it's as good as any man makes a lot

991
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 3: of sense.

992
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 2: Man makes a ton of sense because he's already worked

993
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,800
Speaker 2: with Chris Boswell. That's the part of this that doesn't

994
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 2: get talked about. You sign to me, that's why you

995
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 2: sign a veteran guy early.

996
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, get those guys that battery all, get.

997
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 2: Them together and let them work on it all off season.

998
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 2: As opposed to it's.

999
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 3: Definitely better than let's just get three undrafted free agents

1000
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 3: in camp and see.

1001
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 2: How it goes. Yeah, you know, actually I was cheaper.

1002
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:40,320
Speaker 3: You know what punter contracts go for.

1003
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,800
Speaker 2: Like, what do you think, man is he made? He

1004
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 2: made a millionaire made, he made the minimum less? You know,

1005
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 2: he made a million in his life.

1006
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 3: Right, I mean by NFL standards. You know my first

1007
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:55,919
Speaker 3: call for sure, Yeah, two year deal, it's three million. Yeah,

1008
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 3: why would you say that I might go to three

1009
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 3: point five or four yeah, if I had to. If

1010
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:01,879
Speaker 3: I am missus man, I'm like, you're signing that deal,

1011
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:05,399
Speaker 3: There'll be some other teams out there. Maybe I don't

1012
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 3: want to get into a bidding war for a punter,

1013
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 3: but no, I also have no clue how many punter

1014
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:11,359
Speaker 3: needy teams there are in the league.

1015
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 2: I don't know either. You know, kind of flies under

1016
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 2: the radar. I did hear Pat McAfee was talking about this,

1017
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 2: and I can't remember where I heard of that, but

1018
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 2: maybe it was always during the Combine. He was sitting

1019
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 2: in UH for a segment on the combat during the

1020
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 2: Combine and was talking about how when he got drafted

1021
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 2: by the Colts, they had Adam Vinetieria. They're the most

1022
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 2: overrated kicker in RFOL history. But yeah, and when he

1023
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:40,399
Speaker 2: had his meeting with the Colts, his pre draft meeting,

1024
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 2: they asked him if he had ever held before. Well,

1025
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 2: he had been the place kicker at West Virginia too. Yeah,

1026
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 2: I do remember that he hadn't held. Now, I don't

1027
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 2: understand why they didn't check more into this, Why they

1028
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 2: just believed the player and they flat out lied to him.

1029
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,319
Speaker 2: So he gets to they bring him in, the Colts

1030
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 2: bring him in and.

1031
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 3: Too and too, like, how did you out hold if

1032
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 3: you're the one kicking it through the field goal? There?

1033
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 2: Funny boy, Vinatieri finds out that he hasn't ever held before,

1034
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 2: so he he paid Vinettieri paid for him to go.

1035
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 3: To holding school.

1036
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 2: There's a guy, the guy who was the holder for

1037
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 2: the Patriots. Okay, his house down I think it was

1038
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 2: down in Charlotte or somewhere. He said, you go vintaries

1039
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 2: holder for that live with him. You're gonna live with

1040
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:24,360
Speaker 2: this guy for a week. He's gonna show you everything

1041
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 2: you need to know about holding.

1042
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,840
Speaker 3: That's pretty funny because, oh, by the way we drafted you,

1043
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:29,879
Speaker 3: I know you're making the team.

1044
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're gonna make the team.

1045
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 3: This is an investment for myself because all your bad

1046
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 3: holds are gonna tell me what a bad kicker I am,

1047
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 3: right man.

1048
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 2: Second, think about the punters, because it's always the holder.

1049
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 3: And doesn't mean you're good at it.

1050
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 2: Like I can remember Presley Harvin's fresh rookie year at

1051
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 2: the Steelers worked on that constantly.

1052
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 3: I remember him always looking awkward with it too. Yeah,

1053
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 3: part of it because of his body type, you know.

1054
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 3: But the big thing I learned, you know that I

1055
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 3: had never thought of, but to make saw sense in

1056
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 3: the world when I was in the league that year

1057
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 3: was nobody cares.

1058
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 2: If you're a good athlete.

1059
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:06,839
Speaker 3: As a kicker, you could be ugly.

1060
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 2: The punters have to be athletes.

1061
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 3: I mean, there's a lot of bad snaps holds. You

1062
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 3: better have good hands, you know, Like I was with

1063
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 3: Andy Lee Att Pitt. He was a really good baseball player,

1064
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 3: last in the league forever, you know, like and then

1065
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 3: you also want to like maybe he could throw the

1066
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 3: ball twice a year maybe or something. At least have

1067
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 3: that threat or.

1068
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 2: You get a bett and you gotta run around and

1069
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 2: do something with it.

1070
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly exactly. I mean that that long snap back.

1071
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 3: He was never gonna always going to be pristine. Yeah,

1072
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:32,879
Speaker 3: you go to just over your head and weather things

1073
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,320
Speaker 3: like that. So yeah, I don't know who on this

1074
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 3: list a good punter or is a good athlete or not,

1075
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 3: but that matters at that position.

1076
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 2: And so that's something that you know. And then again

1077
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 2: kicking him weather is something, right, I mean, obviously that

1078
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 2: hindered Harvin.

1079
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, clearly, he.

1080
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:50,839
Speaker 2: Clearly got worse as the season went on, and every

1081
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 2: year he was with the Steelers, so.

1082
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 3: I know Iowa has a guy. I haven't looked at

1083
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,280
Speaker 3: any of the other punters, but I wouldn't be thrilled

1084
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,839
Speaker 3: to take the New Mexico kid or the floor kid.

1085
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, I want somebody who's kicked them poor

1086
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 2: weather before, because there's an art to it. There is

1087
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 2: an art to it. And you know, if you kick

1088
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 2: the ball forty five yards in August, you better kick

1089
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 2: the ball forty five yards in December or close to it,

1090
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 2: right close to you kicked the ball forty six yards

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Speaker 2: or forty seven yards in August, and you kick it

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Speaker 2: forty yards in December.

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Speaker 3: And the little I know about punting, like when we

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Speaker 3: were kids, I think punters had like a wedge and

1095
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Speaker 3: a driver. Yeah, you know, now they have a lot

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Speaker 3: of clubs in the bag. They got a lot of

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Speaker 3: different shots and these knuckles and Australian rule stuff and

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Speaker 3: they've learned. So that's another thing, like, hey, maybe you're

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Speaker 3: gonna kick more knucklers when it's different weather. Things like that. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The idea is to never have to punt, well you're

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Speaker 2: gonna but the reality is is sometimes you're gonna have

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Speaker 2: to punt. No special things and you're gonna have to hold.

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Speaker 2: So anyway, let's get through another break. That's gonna do

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Speaker 2: it for our number one of the drive here on

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Speaker 2: Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back with our number two

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Speaker 2: focus more in the draft in our number two right

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Speaker 2: after this