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Speaker 1: Welcome back. I am Dale Lalli. He is the Matt

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Speaker 1: Williamson and it is time for the Fantasy Football Focus,

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Speaker 1: And as we do every Friday, we will pick our

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Speaker 1: DFS lineup. Hopefully we get back on the horse.

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Speaker 2: Sha wee rebound here in a big way. Don't tell

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Speaker 2: anyone what group we're in either, no.

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Speaker 1: No, no, then find your own.

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Speaker 2: Group, use our lineup all you want, and best of

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Speaker 2: luck with it. But yeah, I don't want to compete

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Speaker 2: against ourselves.

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Speaker 1: Remember we got some teams off this week. That makes

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Speaker 1: it a little more interesting. Yeah, And the buys run

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Speaker 1: all the way through Week fourteen this year.

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Speaker 2: Which is Fantasy playoffs, right, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: So it's very relevant here. Let's look at defenses as

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Speaker 1: we always do. The New York Giants are two thousand

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Speaker 1: dollars against the Dolphins. New. The Panthers against Detroit are

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Speaker 1: twenty two hundred New. The Titans against Indianapolis are twenty

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Speaker 1: four hundred.

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Speaker 2: It's not bad. I mean that's a running team against

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Speaker 2: a good run d Yeah, I would think that's a

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Speaker 2: low scoring game.

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Speaker 1: The Vikings against KC are twenty five hundred against the

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Speaker 1: Eagles or twenty six hundred The Steelers against the Ravens

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Speaker 1: are twenty seven hundred. Cardinals against Cincinnati twenty eight hundred.

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Speaker 2: Who would have thought that? Wow, you know, before the

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Speaker 2: season started.

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Speaker 1: The Raiders three thousand. The Saints against the Patriots are

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Speaker 1: three thousand. That's not bad.

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Speaker 2: That's gonna be a low scoring game.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah. Jets against Denver are thirty one hundred.

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Speaker 2: I like those two.

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Speaker 1: Patriots against the Saints are thirty one hundred. Broncos against

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Speaker 1: the Jets are thirty two hundred.

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Speaker 2: Rather than Jets, and I would too. Broncos are terrible.

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Speaker 1: Colts against the Titans are thirty two hundred. The Cowboys

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Speaker 1: against San Francisco are thirty two hundred. No, the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: against Minnesota are twenty five or thirty three hundred.

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Speaker 2: I should say, what do you think about Jets or Saints?

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Speaker 1: I would play the Saints.

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Speaker 2: I'm fine with it. Yeah, I just think a smidge

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Speaker 2: is cheaper.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that Patriots offense right now is.

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Speaker 2: A mess disaster.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think I'm with you. I think it's

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Speaker 1: like a seventeen sixteen game, yeah, somewhere sixteen thirteen something

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Speaker 1: along those lines. It's not going to be pretty at

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Speaker 1: tight end. Kelsey is seventy six hundred. Hawkinson is sixty

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Speaker 1: five hundred against k C.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they should have the tight end battle.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Mark Andrews against the Steelers is fifty five hundred.

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Speaker 1: The Steelers over our the third best team in the

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Speaker 2: Meant to say that two segments ago that they've done

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Speaker 2: pretty well against tight ends.

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Speaker 1: Darren Waller is fifty four hundred. Miami is twenty fourth

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Speaker 2: Okay, none of those.

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Speaker 1: They did come out this week and say, hey, we

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Speaker 1: need to get Darren Waller more.

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Speaker 2: No, that's not a bad point, and they're not wrong.

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Speaker 1: Sam Laporta is five thousand. But Carolina isn't fifth against

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Speaker 2: Okay, that doesn't worry me though.

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Speaker 1: Kittle is forty eight hundred.

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Speaker 2: I think you both playing.

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Speaker 1: Hunter Henry is forty four hundred.

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Speaker 2: Quietly, he has had a nice year.

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Speaker 1: Us Goddard is forty two hundred, quiet terrible. The Rams

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Speaker 1: are twenty second against opposing tight ends. Tyler Higbee is

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Speaker 1: forty one hundred. The Eagles are thirtieth against opposing tight ends.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think Coup plays and that hurts him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Jake Ferguson thirty seven hundred bad San Francisco is eighth.

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Speaker 2: However, supposing tight end.

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Speaker 1: Zach Ertz against the Bengals. The Bengals are twenty seventh

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Speaker 1: against the posing tight ends. He's thirty five hundred.

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Speaker 2: He gets a ton of targets. Luke muskad for the buck.

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Speaker 1: Luke Musgrave is thirty five hundred. Injury, he's questionable.

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Speaker 2: Yeah for a Monday night, or we don't want to

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Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz is thirty four hundred. Atlanta is twenty ninth

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Speaker 2: It's not terrible. Kyle Pitts, that's amazing.

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Speaker 1: He's thirty three hundred.

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Speaker 2: I can't do it. Can't do it.

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Speaker 1: Chig and quonko Is he was a favor thirty two hundred.

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Speaker 2: I would you rather have him or Pitts. I might

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Speaker 1: I rather have John who I think there was two.

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Speaker 2: Goddard was one, and there was a name. Let's start Gotter.

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Speaker 2: He's been doing nothing.

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Speaker 1: He's done absolutely nothing.

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Speaker 2: There was one like two spots above him that was moderately,

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Speaker 1: Price Kittle or Henry or who was it Henry?

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Speaker 2: I think he was right before you said Kittle's name.

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Speaker 1: Laporta.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that that's not They're good against tight ends,

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Speaker 1: They do have some guys banged up. He's still five

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Speaker 2: We paid expensive.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna pay five thousand. Let's how about we fill

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Speaker 1: out the rest of the lineup to see.

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Speaker 2: What There was not many names.

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Speaker 1: I was saying, you might want a pun on tight

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Speaker 1: end this week.

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Speaker 2: That's fine, that's fine, and just.

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Speaker 1: Throw somebody in there and hope he gets us five points.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope he got your touchdown.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Mahomes is eighty two hundred.

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Speaker 2: I actually didn't hate Ertz either, by the way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's not bad. Jalen Hurts is eight thousand.

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Speaker 1: Lamar is seventy eight hundred. Tua is seventy one hundred.

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Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson is seven thousands. The Giants, I.

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Speaker 2: Can see them bouncing back and putting up a lot

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Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins is sixty nine hundred, although Armstead went on.

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Speaker 2: Ir today for them.

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Speaker 1: Cousins is sixty nine hundred. Jared Goff is sixty three hundred.

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow they're six against quarterborough. Joe Burrow is sixty

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Speaker 1: Stroud is six thousand, Daniel Jones is fifty eight hundred.

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Speaker 1: The Dolphins are twenty eighth against opposing quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Alan lit him up.

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Speaker 1: I think the Giants might have some designed runs there for.

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Speaker 1: Jordan Love is fifty eight hundred.

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Speaker 1: Against a bad Yeah. Purdy is fifty seven hundred. But

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys are number two against opposing quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if I think that game's a

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson is fifty seven hundred. Matthew Stafford is fifty

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Speaker 2: He's been playing tremendous.

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Speaker 1: The Eagles are twenty six against opposing quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: Yes, especially if Cup plays, which I think he's almost

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Speaker 2: that looks like it does. They've had corner issues, they've

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Speaker 2: been allowing good receiver production. I like Stafford a lot

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Speaker 1: Josh Dobbs is fifty two hundred.

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Speaker 2: That's not bad either. He runs like a Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 1: Well, now young Bryce Young is fifty one hundred, Mac

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Speaker 1: are both five thousand. What's going to be Kenny Pickley?

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Speaker 1: Desmond Ridder at forty nine hundred, Ryan Tanney Hill at

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Speaker 2: Wow, forty nine hundred, a guy who's a starter starter. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Zach Wilson is forty nine hundred against Denver, which is

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Speaker 1: thirty second against opposing quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: I mean we could obviously spend like crazy elsewhere. I mean,

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Speaker 2: does he get the two hundred yards? Probably he's gonna

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Speaker 2: run a little bit too, run a little bit. I

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Speaker 2: like Goff, I kind of like Dobbs. Zach Wilson at that.

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Speaker 2: Stafford is that could Stafford is the one I was

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Speaker 2: thinking that could be a shootout. I think it's gonna be.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that could be a shootout.

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Speaker 2: Their offense is playing really well.

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Speaker 1: Fifty six hundred is actually under budget for us.

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Speaker 2: That's my favorite one.

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Speaker 1: Let's let's go ahead and plug that in.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I don't know that I want to

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Speaker 2: stack him.

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Speaker 1: No, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Cup and the coup are a little too hard to

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Speaker 1: McCaffrey is ninety four hundred.

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Speaker 2: He scored like every game he's been.

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Speaker 1: Oh, by the way, Dallas is number one against opposing

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Speaker 1: running backs and he's ninety four hundred.

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Speaker 2: That's the chiefest still ever. Have you ever seen a

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Speaker 1: Not in my recollection. Saquon Barkley's eighty one hundred, but

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Speaker 2: Brian was that big a gap that we wanted.

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Speaker 1: To Jean Robinson is seventy seven hundred. I love he's

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Speaker 1: going to get the ball.

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Speaker 2: Enough though it always does, catches a ton of balls.

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Speaker 1: Tony Pollard is seventy six hundred against San Francisco. No thanks.

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Speaker 1: Derrick Henry is seventy five hundred.

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Speaker 2: Were back on trusting him? Probably?

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Speaker 1: Indianapolis is nineteenth against opposing running backs. Josh Jacobs is

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Speaker 1: seventy three hundred. They're thirtieth against opposing running backs.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's not bad.

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Speaker 1: Aaron Jones is sixty nine hundred. He's questionable for this game.

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Speaker 1: They're twenty against posing running backs. Jonathan Taylor is sixty

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Speaker 1: if they get some news here.

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Speaker 2: That maybe there's something that happened recently, I have not

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Speaker 2: heard end today.

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Speaker 1: Kieran Williams sixty seven hundred. Okay, David Montgomery sixty six hundred.

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Speaker 1: I like they're twenty eighth against opposing toast.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm fine with that. You can plug him right

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Speaker 1: I mean, he won't catch a ton of passes, but

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Speaker 1: he might score twice. Use him a lot. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: he's gonna get the football.

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Speaker 2: I think they win in games they win, he's gonna

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Speaker 2: get a lot of four quarters.

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Speaker 1: Now that's slightly above. There's there's some other guys here

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Speaker 1: that I might like better. Joe Mixon against Arizona is

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Speaker 1: sixty four hundred. Arizona's thirty first against opposing running backs.

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Speaker 2: Really, they've been bad.

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Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara is sixty three hundred. Yeah, twenty one point

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Speaker 1: four points last week. Just catching dumpoffs.

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Speaker 2: Against the Patriots too. That could be a real dump

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Speaker 1: Raheem Mostert is sixty two hundred.

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Speaker 1: Chan is sixty one hundred. Why is a Chan cheaper

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Speaker 1: than shouldn't be against the Giants who are twenty third

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Speaker 1: against opposing running backs?

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Speaker 2: Shouldn't be? That's cheap?

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Speaker 1: Like I like that one. I think maybe even better

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Speaker 2: At fifty dislike Kamara.

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Speaker 1: Either, Swift is six thousand.

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Speaker 2: It's pretty good. He has a score, but that's pretty good.

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Speaker 1: Gibbs is fifty nine hundred. No, Zach Moss is fifty

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Speaker 1: eight hundred.

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Speaker 2: But they're number three against Taylor's not playing.

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Speaker 1: I don't. It doesn't matter because I'm up starting anybody against.

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Speaker 2: The Titan Stevens, no good point.

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Speaker 1: James Connor is fifty eight hundred, not bad. Alexander Madison

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Speaker 1: against Casey's fifty seven.

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Speaker 2: Hundred off a good game.

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Speaker 1: Pacheco is fifty seven hundred.

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Speaker 2: It's not a great defense.

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Speaker 1: No, Ramondre Stevens.

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Speaker 2: They're playing Vice. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Stevenson is fifty six hundred.

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Speaker 2: Well he's really falling off.

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Speaker 1: Javonte Williams is fifty five hundred Naujie Harris is fifty

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Speaker 1: four hundred. Bryce Hall is fifty four hundred dollars and

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Speaker 1: they just they just came out and said there's no

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Speaker 1: restrictions on him anymore. Denver is thirty second against the

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Speaker 1: posing running videos you gotta and he catches the so

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Speaker 1: Brees Hall and Devin A chain or Chan, I should say,

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Speaker 1: both have great matchups, both are cheap.

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Speaker 2: So my other league, real quick, helped me out. My

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Speaker 2: flex is either gonna be Brecee Hall or Pittman. I'm torn.

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Speaker 2: I've gone back and forth one hundred times.

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Speaker 1: I'd go breeseall.

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Speaker 2: Pittman's safer. I just know that they're not going to

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Speaker 2: run on Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: I understand.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited.

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Speaker 1: Breese Hall might if he gets if he gets fifteen

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Speaker 1: touches in this.

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Speaker 2: Game, then it's easily home. Yeah, yeah he should and

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Speaker 2: he should. Yeah, all right, wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: Now we can keep some of those other guys in mind.

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Speaker 2: From still yeah my tongue.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for our flex, let's take it. Look here at

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Speaker 1: the wide receivers Justin Jefferson ninety four hundred.

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Speaker 2: We didn't take a tight end yet, right, No, we

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Speaker 2: have none. We could definitely go super cheap there.

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Speaker 1: We could. Yeah, we could pay down.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it's worth paying up for any

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Speaker 2: of those names.

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Speaker 1: Tyreek is nine thousand.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Cooper Cup, who's still on IR, I might add is

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Speaker 1: eighty six.

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Speaker 2: Hundred, first game back, that's crazy to me.

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Speaker 1: DeVante Adams is eighty one hundred.

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Speaker 2: Revenge, revenge, game action, Jimmy's back, right yeah? A J.

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Speaker 1: Brown eight thousand, Jamar Chase seventy nine hundred, A mon

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Speaker 1: Ros Saint Brown seventy eight hundred.

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Speaker 2: I don't dislike it.

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Speaker 1: Puka and Nakua seventy seven hundred, Okay, Jaylem Wattle seventy

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Speaker 1: five injury designation he does, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I bet he's playing that.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna play. Yeah, Jaylen Wattle was seventy five hundred.

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Speaker 2: I like that better than paying for Tyree.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. You could get a piece of that same thing

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Speaker 1: kind with Davante Smith, but he's seventy four hundred, so

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Speaker 1: you're getting the secondary target. But they're both, but they're

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Speaker 1: not really there's no bargain.

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Speaker 2: There, Smith and Brown or really one A one B, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: both those names.

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Speaker 1: Cede Lamb is seventy three hundred niners, but still you

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Speaker 1: could beat them on the outside.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's a number, he's usually top.

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Speaker 1: Five h Chris Olave is sixty nine hundred.

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Speaker 2: But as cheap as he ever should be.

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Speaker 1: But coming off of one for four, Yeah. T Higgins

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Speaker 1: is sixty six hundred. Probably Deebo Samuel is sixty five hundred.

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Speaker 2: I don't like what he did last week.

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Speaker 1: Michael Pittman is sixty four hundred.

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Speaker 2: I think he's up for a good game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm with you on haul over Pittman for

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Speaker 2: the flex, but Pittman could do well.

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Speaker 1: Jerry Judy is sixty three hundred. Brandon Ayuk is sixty

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Speaker 1: two hundred.

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Speaker 2: I like that they have corner issues in Dallas.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Garrett Wilson is six thousand.

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Speaker 2: So bad. I'm starting to trust the Jets a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Don't know if we want two of them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Christian Watson fifty nine hundred. He is questioned well.

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Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins is fifty seven hundred. Nico Collins against Atlanta

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Speaker 1: is fifty six hundred. Zay Flowers.

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Speaker 2: They've been traveling Torell.

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Speaker 1: I bet he Yeah, he'll get Bet he'll get Carell.

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Speaker 1: Jay Flowers is fifty five hundred.

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Speaker 2: He catches a lot of balls.

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Speaker 1: Jakobe Myers is fifty five hundred.

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Speaker 2: He catches a lot of ball.

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Speaker 1: When he's played with Jimmy, he's been much better than

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Speaker 1: a fifty five hundred dollars player.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Uh. Courtland Sutton is fifty four hundred. Two to two

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Speaker 1: at Well twenty is fifty three hundred.

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Speaker 2: I think the Cup coming back hurts him.

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Speaker 1: Jordan Addison is fifty three hundred.

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Speaker 2: He's still the three there. Yeward's playing more than him

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Speaker 2: for whatever reason.

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Speaker 1: George Pickens is fifty two hundred. Thielen is fifty one hundred.

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Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown is five thousand.

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Speaker 2: That's too cheap for him too.

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Speaker 1: Michael Thomas is forty nine hundred. Romeo Dobbs is forty

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Speaker 1: nine hundred.

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Speaker 2: If Watson doesn't play, If.

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Speaker 1: Watson doesn't play, where's the ball going?

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Speaker 2: That's a pretty good price for him.

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Speaker 1: Tank Dell is forty eight hundred, Brandon Cooks is forty

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Speaker 1: seven hundred, Drake London forty seven hundred.

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Speaker 2: There was a lot of names I like. I'm trying

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Speaker 2: to remember them all.

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Speaker 1: U if you'd think that Higgins isn't going to play,

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Speaker 1: Tyler Boyd is forty five hundred.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's such an love of though.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Sky Moore forty four hundred, Kidarius Tony forty three hundred.

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Speaker 2: I think Rice is you just picked him up in

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Speaker 2: the league we're in. I think he's the one to own,

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Speaker 2: getting over twelve targets the last two weeks. No, he

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Speaker 2: would be my priceiest.

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Speaker 1: Chief's looking here? You want to take a chance on

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Speaker 1: Jamison Williams. He is four thousand. Their offensive coordinator said,

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Speaker 1: if he's active this week, they're gonna have some plays

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Speaker 1: for him.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure. So who's some names you like there? I

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Speaker 2: thought Lamb was cheap.

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Speaker 1: I like Lamb was cheaper than he should be.

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Speaker 2: I liked Waddle, I like DeVonta Smith. Forget some of

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Speaker 2: the other names that were I thought were values. I

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Speaker 2: thought Ayuk was a value.

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Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson's probably under priced at six thouand no.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I want two jets though we

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Speaker 2: have haul right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true, that's true.

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Speaker 2: Awful defense. But Jakoby Myers at fifty five dreds attractive.

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Speaker 1: I mean you could go. You could go Zay Flowers

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Speaker 1: and Jakoby Myers at fifty five hundred each.

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Speaker 2: I've been at, Say Flowers catches seven passes.

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Speaker 1: Without a doubt, like he's averaging uh twelve point four

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Speaker 1: points per game in fantasy. He's gonna he's gonna get

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Speaker 1: that because he'll get he probably catches seven passes.

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Speaker 2: I have no problem with that.

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Speaker 1: Now will he score?

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but who knows.

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Speaker 1: Do you want Zay Flowers and get Chakobe Myers? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't mind that at all.

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Speaker 2: I would think we'd have a lot to spend on

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Speaker 2: a flex.

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Speaker 1: Then that gets us up to an average of sixty

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Speaker 1: three hundred. We can spend the rest of the way,

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Speaker 1: and one of those is the tight end. We might

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Speaker 1: be able to pay up for a tight end and

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Speaker 1: get one of the studs.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I was gonna say the opposite. Let's go get

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Speaker 2: a sheepy tight end and then go get a Montgomery.

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Speaker 1: We can do that too, you know. I mean if

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Speaker 1: we go zach Ertz at thirty five.

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Speaker 2: Hundred, yeah, that's not a bad one.

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Speaker 1: Let's plug it in and then all of a sudden.

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Speaker 2: Now he's another high volume guy.

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Speaker 1: Now our average is up to we can spend seventy

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Speaker 1: seven hundred or our last two positions.

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Speaker 2: Which are two spots a flex.

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Speaker 1: A wide receiver and a flex.

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Speaker 2: How about like waddle.

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Speaker 1: Or well, let's see, so if we plug in in

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Speaker 1: our flex position, if we plug it, say A Montgomery into.

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Speaker 2: That, Okay, I'm fine with that.

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Speaker 1: Let me see here, where's he at? He's he's sixty

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Speaker 1: six hundred. That then leads us with eighty eight hundred

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Speaker 1: for the final wide receivers.

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Speaker 2: But is that tyrek? Uh?

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Speaker 1: Not quite?

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Speaker 2: Tyreek is nine thousand Jefferson Runners, he's.

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Speaker 1: Ninety four hundred. That would get us Cooper Cup or

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Speaker 1: Devonte Adams. But then we would have both raiders receivers.

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Speaker 1: Although everything is funneled through those two receivers.

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Speaker 2: They do kid, Yeah, let's just uh so through like

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Speaker 2: the eighty seven or eighty six.

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Speaker 1: Is eighty six is Cup, eighty one is DeVonta Adams.

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Speaker 1: So if we if we do that, we have money

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Speaker 1: left over. Aj Brown is eight thousand, chases seventy nine hundred,

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Speaker 1: A Monross Saint Brown is seventy eight hundred.

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Speaker 2: What if we got rid Of Myers. Could we afford

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Speaker 2: like Waddle and Lamb.

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Speaker 1: If we get rid of, we have an average We

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Speaker 1: have fourteen three left for the final two receivers spots

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Speaker 1: we could replace. We could replace him with Devonte Adams

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Speaker 1: and have sixty two hundred left.

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Speaker 2: Okay, who's that get us?

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Speaker 1: Sixty two hundred would get us? Brandon Brandon Ayuk wo.

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Speaker 2: Ayuk was one of my favorite names. I think the

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Speaker 2: world doesn't realize how good he is yet.

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Speaker 1: So that would be Stafford, Bresall, devinih Chan, Jay Flowers,

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Speaker 1: Devonte Adams, Brandon Ayuk, Zach Ertz, David Montgomery, and the

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Speaker 1: Saints defense.

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Speaker 2: I approved that message. I like it. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 2: Yuk made made my day.

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Speaker 1: All right. So that's the that's the lineup then. So

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Speaker 1: we got Matthew Stafford at quarterback for fifty six hundred.

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Speaker 1: We got Brece Hall at running back for fifty four hundred.

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Speaker 1: That's way too cheap.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he started to hit a stride.

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Speaker 1: Devin Chan at running back is sixty one hundred.

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Speaker 2: I don't understand why he's not more than most.

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Speaker 1: H Yeah, that doesn't make sense. Now, Zay Flowers at

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Speaker 1: fifty five hundred against the Steelers. Uh, that's a volume

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Speaker 1: kind of thing. DeVante Adams at eighty one hundred in

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Speaker 1: every revenge game. You think the Devonte Adams scores in

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Speaker 1: this game?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe twice. Sure, he's awesome.

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Speaker 1: Brandon Ayuk at sixty two hundred.

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Speaker 2: So much happier with Adams than Myers too. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: didn't dislike the Myers call.

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Speaker 1: I mean Adams. Ayuk is a solid pairer man. Zach

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Speaker 1: Ertz at thirty five hundred at tight end.

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Speaker 2: I bet he catches five balls yeah for thirty Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Then you got David Montgomery at the flex because he

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Speaker 1: is the number one running back in Detroit. Whether people

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Speaker 1: believe that or.

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Speaker 2: Not, it's clear.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: And then the Saints they win.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And the Saints defense against New England at three thousand.

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Speaker 2: Mac Jones is a problem man, and Theirs are line.

456
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Speaker 1: Their offensive line is a mess right now.

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Speaker 2: Sacks in the future.

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Speaker 1: There locking it in, do it well. Congratulations, We are

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Speaker 1: in one thing I wanted to talk about today, Matt Well.

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Speaker 1: We're on the subject of fantasy football, and it's actually

461
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Speaker 1: still irrelevant. So a lot of the fantasy football managers

462
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Speaker 1: out there, and I listened to it quite a bit.

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Speaker 1: I listened to Serious Fantasy, yeah a lot, listening to

464
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Speaker 1: a show today and he said the Steelers' backfield is

465
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Speaker 1: basically a timeshare right now.

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Speaker 2: There's a big, big misconception.

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Speaker 1: On that that is one hundred percent false.

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Speaker 2: They're only looking at snap counts and target share, but

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Speaker 2: it's they're not looking at usage.

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Speaker 1: They're not looking at usage at all. Naji Harris is

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Speaker 1: still the lead back in this backfield.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I mean there's not an ore next to their

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Speaker 2: name on the depth charge.

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Speaker 1: And there's also this misconception out there that Najie Harris

475
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Speaker 1: is having a bad year.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, no, his best year yet.

477
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Speaker 1: Like he is running better than I've ever seen him

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Speaker 1: run on a week to week basis. The problem has

479
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Speaker 1: been has been the offense hasn't gotten in the red

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Speaker 1: zone for him to score a touchdown.

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Speaker 2: I don't have it in front of me, but I'm

482
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Speaker 2: sure we talked about it earlier in the week, but

483
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Speaker 2: not everyone probably remembers. I mean, there was four or

484
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Speaker 2: five really pressing categories, yards after contact, explosive, run rate,

485
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Speaker 2: and I retweeted somebody his numbers are better in all

486
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Speaker 2: those categories. Then they've been either one of his years. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean it's his best year yet.

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Speaker 1: Jalen Warren is the third downback.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that is what he say've been.

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Speaker 1: Yeah when you pass, when in two of your games

491
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Speaker 1: you've been behind by twenty points or so, give or take. Yeah,

492
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Speaker 1: your third downback is going to be on the field

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Speaker 1: a lot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that's more game script than the depth charge stuff.

495
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Speaker 1: Like this is if they can if this is a Tavy.

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Speaker 2: Steeler fan listening knows that, yeah, you know, maybe not

497
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Speaker 2: every fantasy and a list across the world.

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Speaker 1: I just think it's a complete misconception. And somehow he's

499
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Speaker 1: like he's having a better season Rymondrie Stevenson.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I didn't expect that, but he is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he's he looks better. I didn't realize

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Speaker 1: Stevenson was like sixty sixty carries for one hundred and

503
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Speaker 1: seventy yards or what.

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Speaker 2: It's been really surprising. I'm a big Stevenson believer. I

505
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Speaker 2: don't know if he's hurt or what.

506
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Speaker 1: But their lines, their lines have an issue.

507
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Speaker 2: It's bad. And then was afraid of the passing game

508
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Speaker 2: and the same stuff.

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Speaker 1: Not right right, But no, I think Nausey looks better

510
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Speaker 1: than he has his entire career, and.

511
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Speaker 2: This is one of the best games he's ever played

512
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Speaker 2: a Steeler. I think it's not the only bright spot.

513
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Speaker 2: Was the only bright spot on the offense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Now, if they can get into that kind of

515
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Speaker 1: if they can keep that kind of game script where

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Speaker 1: they keep the game close against the Ravens, I think

517
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Speaker 1: he'll have some success here. Right, You're not going to

518
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Speaker 1: have if Nagy Harris finishes this game with eighteen carries

519
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Speaker 1: for seventy eight yards or something like that, like the

520
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Speaker 1: Steelers have a chance to win.

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Speaker 2: I do too, and we are in a fantasy segment.

522
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Speaker 2: But when when we were reading out the off the

523
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Speaker 2: DFS stuff, I'm like, Naugi's too cheap. I didn't say that,

524
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Speaker 2: but I was considering it. It was like, I thought that.

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Speaker 1: Would continue to be like that because he's gonna They're

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Speaker 1: going to start scoring touchdowns here at some point. Oh sure,

527
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Speaker 1: hopefully soon.

528
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Speaker 2: Two days from now.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, he's just I think he's been completely

530
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Speaker 1: under valued in fantasy football as well. He's Jalen Warren's

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Speaker 1: taking over that back to not I've said this a

532
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Speaker 1: thousand times. It's not going to happen. It's nothing against

533
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Speaker 1: Jalen Warren.

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Speaker 2: No, it's not going to happen.

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Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's I think it's some

536
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Speaker 1: of it is the fantasy guys who drafted Jalen Warren,

537
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Speaker 1: Well he's he's the hot name here because he's going

538
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Speaker 1: to take over that back. I think they're trying to

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Speaker 1: force their narrative in the reality.

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Speaker 2: How smart I was. I took Jalen Warren back in

541
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Speaker 2: April and dfl or in best Ball or whatever. I

542
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Speaker 2: took him Labor Day weekend or whatever. What was I

543
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Speaker 2: going to say?

544
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Speaker 1: Though?

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Speaker 2: The problem with Harris and that's why fantasy football correlates

546
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Speaker 2: a lot to the real world. But also running for

547
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Speaker 2: quarterbacks is too important. Yeah, and so are receptions and

548
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Speaker 2: touchdowns for running backs, which isn't his specialty.

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Speaker 1: It's one of the reasons why in our league, the

550
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Speaker 1: league that we play in, you get a point every

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Speaker 1: five carries.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I'man another one like the Dynasty one like that.

553
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Speaker 1: We did that way back when I can remember.

554
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Speaker 2: The workhorses get a little something. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The argument it was always like Drome Bettest is perfect.

556
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Speaker 1: Drome Bettests will get twenty five carries in the game,

557
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Speaker 1: never catch a pass.

558
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Speaker 2: And be like one of the most important to you.

559
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Speaker 1: He's the most important. He's the guy that touches the ball.

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Speaker 1: The only guy touches it more is the quarterback, and

561
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Speaker 1: he gets eight points.

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Speaker 2: He's closing off the game against nine boxes and stuff

563
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Speaker 2: like that too, right, right, No, I think there's value there.

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Speaker 1: So, uh yeah, I think you know, if you're obviously

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Speaker 1: if your league doesn't do that, doesn't value touches for

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Speaker 1: carries for running backs, you should probably try to implement

567
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Speaker 1: that because it is it does balance out against the

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Speaker 1: It's not the same as getting a point per catcher

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Speaker 1: a half point per catch, no, but what it does

570
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Speaker 1: balance the running back stuff out a little bit.

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Speaker 2: The decimal scoring league that I'm in, it's very similar

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Speaker 2: to yours, but instead of five increments, you get point

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Speaker 2: twenty five for every carry.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's a little bit more. You actually get

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Speaker 1: a point every four carries every four That's why a

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Speaker 1: guy like David Montgomery I drafted him this year in

577
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Speaker 1: our league because I'm like, well.

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Speaker 2: He's going to get the carries like the Connors of

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Speaker 2: the world.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, those guys, yeah, yeah, the guys that go

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Speaker 1: out there and get an average or average eighteen touches,

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Speaker 1: eighteen carries per game, have.

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Speaker 2: Value, likes them, Yeah, they trust them in those situations. Anyways, well,

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Speaker 2: off season topic, but I always thought defenses should get

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Speaker 2: a point or something if their team wins.

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Speaker 1: We used to do that. We used to get two

587
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Speaker 1: points per win. It was my suggestion, and then the

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Speaker 1: rest of the guys do it. The rest of the

589
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Speaker 1: guys all hated it because they, you know, end up

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Speaker 1: losing a game because the defense wanted at the end

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Speaker 1: and they got an extra two points.

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Speaker 2: Defense had something to do with you won the.

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Speaker 1: Game, Yeah, did you win the game? That's you know,

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Speaker 1: you could.

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Speaker 2: I hate when your quarterback throws a pick six and

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Speaker 2: your defense has to eat those points, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: That's that's not fair, right right, or that you know,

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Speaker 1: he gives up an interception or is a fumble recovery

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Speaker 1: inside the five and they punch it in and that

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Speaker 1: goes against your defense. Yeah, So anyways, we're gonna take

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Speaker 1: another break. He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale, Lallie.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 1: When we come back, we'll been through around the rest

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Speaker 1: of the games on the slate for Sunday and Monday

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Speaker 1: when we come back right after this on the Drive,

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Speaker 1: online at shop dot Steelers dot com. Matt, We're heading

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Speaker 1: into Week five here of the NFL season, and we

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Speaker 1: got a not quite a full slate of game here.

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Speaker 1: We do have four teams off Cleveland, the Chargers, Seattle,

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Speaker 1: and Tampa Bay all off this week. Yeah, good slate

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Speaker 1: of games that will kick off at nine to thirty am.

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Speaker 1: Don't you forget. Yeah, if you have your Jaguars, this

618
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Speaker 1: is easy because they were already over there last week,

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Speaker 1: but now the Bills are over there as well, and

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Speaker 1: you get Jaguars at two and two at the Bills

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Speaker 1: three and one in London. That's an NFL Network kicks

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Speaker 1: off at nine thirty am. The Bill's favored by five

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Speaker 1: and a half. The over under is forty eight and

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Speaker 1: a half.

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Speaker 2: I love how the Bills are playing, not just because

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Speaker 2: they dismantled a super hot Miami team, but I think

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Speaker 2: on both sides of the ball, they're really good. But

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Speaker 2: I think staying over there is a huge advantage.

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Speaker 1: Not only that the Bills just won a big game

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Speaker 1: last week. I smell a little bit of a letdown here.

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Speaker 1: I still think they win the game.

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Speaker 2: I went to the points.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll take the five and a half.

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Speaker 2: Though, Yeah, I think staying over there And you mentioned it.

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Speaker 2: They went pretty late this week too.

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Speaker 1: It was like me yesterday they made the trip.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't like the sound of that. Yeah, I

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00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 2: think they win, but I'll take five and a half.

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Speaker 1: You got the two and two Texans at the two

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Speaker 1: and two Falcons. Just kicks off the one o'clock games.

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Speaker 1: Atlanta favored by one and a half, the over under

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Speaker 1: forty one and a half.

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Speaker 2: I like Atlanta here. I think I could see Houston

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Speaker 2: letting down and just being young after a huge win

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Speaker 2: and reading their headlines a little bit this week, and

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Speaker 2: I think Atlanta is going to be able to run

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Speaker 2: the ball and run the ball and run.

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Speaker 1: They will run the ball. Yeah, the Steelers ran the

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Speaker 1: ball effectively in that game. The problem was is the

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Speaker 1: offense wasn't on the field the entire first quarter. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you think about the script of that game, that's

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Speaker 1: why I don't understand why people didn't got so angry

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Speaker 1: with the offense. I understand why they got any get it.

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Speaker 1: The offense was on the field for one possession off

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Speaker 1: the bat right in the first the entire first quarter.

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Speaker 1: So by the time they got their second possession, they're

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Speaker 1: already down ten nothing.

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Speaker 2: And that was on the d that's on the defense.

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Speaker 2: Of course, the offense could have held the ball longer,

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Speaker 2: but they only got it once and.

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Speaker 1: They had two rushing first downs and then all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, it's you know it, pick it throws the

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Speaker 1: interception and you don't get the ball again.

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Speaker 2: I thought the defense was worse than the offense, and then.

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Speaker 1: I thought so too. Yeah, and I can't.

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Speaker 2: I know that that's not popular, but I thought it was.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that can't happen. No, I'm with you. I kind

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Speaker 1: of like Atlanta in that game. I think the things

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Speaker 1: have a tendency to even out a little bit. You know,

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Speaker 1: let me see, and the Falcons know what that they

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Speaker 1: want to run the football They're going to run the football.

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Speaker 1: And it doesn't matter if if they were down ten

673
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 1: points after the first quarter, They're still going to run

674
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 1: the football.

675
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 2: They're still going to run the football. Yeah.

676
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: The Panthers at oh and four are at the Lions

677
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 1: at three and one. Detroit favor by ten the old

678
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 1: Runners forty four. That's a big number for a young

679
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 1: football team.

680
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 2: I'm still gonna give it in their building. Golf defense

681
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 2: is shaping up. I don't like where Carolinas at at all.

682
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 1: Frank Reich as a head coach five to two and

683
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 1: one against the spread in his career, as at least

684
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 1: a six point underdog.

685
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 2: Really as seven games, ten's.

686
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: A lot seven, that's eight.

687
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 2: There was a one in there.

688
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, so upj math there you got that one. I probably,

689
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 1: I mean, I like the Lions to win it. I

690
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 1: don't know if I want to lay ten then tends

691
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 1: a lot in it. But yeah, you got the two

692
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 1: and two Titans at the two and two Colts. A

693
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 1: big AFC South showdown here. The entire AFC South right

694
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 1: now is two and two. I know, crazy. Uh, there's

695
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 1: a good chance maybe that the winner of this game

696
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: comes out of this in first place. In the AFC South.

697
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it definitely could happen.

698
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 1: Tennessee favored by two at Indianapolis. The over under is

699
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 1: forty three. I'll take points at home, running dog at

700
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 1: home against of course, it's a running dog against the

701
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 1: one of the league's toughest run defenses.

702
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 2: Still, I just don't think there's gonna be many points

703
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 2: in that game. I don't think I don't take the points.

704
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 1: I might play the under at forty three.

705
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, that seems a lot. I know the Steeler game

706
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 2: is the lowest over under, but I think this game

707
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 2: should be.

708
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 1: It's pretty close. If not that one, then New Orleans

709
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 1: and New England again. Yeah, Nike, the home team or

710
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 1: the Titans have covered in five straight meetings against the Colts,

711
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 1: but the Cults were really bad.

712
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Colts have gotten better.

713
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 1: The biggest, the biggest spread of the weekend. You got

714
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 1: the one in three Giants at the three and one Dolphins.

715
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 1: Miami favored by eleven. The over under is forty eight

716
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 1: and a half.

717
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 2: I'll lay the points. I think Miami is quite good

718
00:30:56,040 --> 00:31:00,479
Speaker 2: and the Giants are far from good. I think Phil Slaves,

719
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 2: I think Jones gets hit a lot. Yeah, I'll take

720
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 2: Miami there.

721
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, Daniel Jones. Could he run his way into keeping

722
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 1: the sure would, Yeah, you know, but I don't know

723
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 1: if their defense can slow down.

724
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 2: That's the problem. Uh.

725
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 1: You get the two and two Saints at the one

726
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 1: and three Patriots, New England favored by one. The over

727
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: under is thirty nine.

728
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 2: I'll take the points.

729
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, give me, I'll take the Saints.

730
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 2: And I didn't like it always saw from car but

731
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 2: I hope it's better this week, one another week, you know,

732
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 2: from the injury. Yeah.

733
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 1: According to according to ESPN, the Patriots have to have

734
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: the worst past block win rate in the NFL at

735
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 1: thirty nine point seven percent. That's one of the things.

736
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 1: So there's somebody who puts out a chart I don't

737
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: I don't know who it is on social media on

738
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 1: Twitter or X or the former Yeah, the ex Twitter

739
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 1: as I like to call, and he matches up. He

740
00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 1: has a chart that matches up PFF's grade against ESPN's. Great.

741
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 2: It might be a third one on it.

742
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 1: There's like three there and the one outlier on that

743
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 1: that doesn't match up, like the rest of them are

744
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: all pretty close.

745
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 2: To what they are is the Steelers.

746
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: Because Pro Football Focus has them as the worst pass

747
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 1: blocking group in the league.

748
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 2: But the other ones don't, and the other ones don't. Yeah,

749
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 2: which is weird, but that's why he does it, so

750
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 2: you don't get Yeah, if it's just a pro football

751
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 2: focused one, you look terrible. But no, I hear what

752
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 2: you're saying.

753
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 1: So, but ESPN has the Patriots as the worst pass.

754
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 2: You mentioned that, I guess was last segment. It's a

755
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 2: lot worse than people think. Yeah, it's it's a disaster.

756
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 1: By the way, Adrian clem is the offensive line coach there,

757
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 1: Remember him? Remember him?

758
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 2: Uh? Yeah? I like to.

759
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 1: I like to. The Saints have the better defense, especially

760
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 1: especially now with Jude On and.

761
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 2: Gonzalez out, And is j C.

762
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: Jackson going to come in and play right away from

763
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: the I don't care if he does or not. Uh yeah,

764
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 1: I'll take them.

765
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 2: Saints have weapons.

766
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 1: Yeah right, that's the other thing. You got the four

767
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 1: and oh Eagles at the two and two Rams, Philadelphia

768
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: favored on the road by four and a half, the

769
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 1: over unders fifty and a half. I would expect a

770
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 1: lot of Eagles fans in less Tis.

771
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 2: I would think there's a lot of green in the stage. Yeah,

772
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 2: I don't think the Rams, though.

773
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 1: Fifty and a half over under in that game. That's

774
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 1: a lot.

775
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 2: It's a lot. That's why I liked our Stafford pick,

776
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 2: and I think there could be a lot of points

777
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 2: in that game. I don't love where the Eagles are at.

778
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 2: I think they end up winning it, but I think

779
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 2: the Rams keep that closed.

780
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:27,959
Speaker 1: The four and a half is probably too much too give.

781
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 2: That's more of a field goal game.

782
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 1: The one in three Bengals are at the one in

783
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 1: three Cardinals. This is a four o'clock game. Cincinnati favored

784
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: by three. The over runner forty four and a half.

785
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: Should Cincinnati be favored by three right now over anybody?

786
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 2: I think Arizona should be favored by three in this game.

787
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm kind of surprised, folks. As bad as the

788
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 1: Steelers offense has been, and it's been bad, oh yeah,

789
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 1: Cincinnati's offense has been worse. It has and I know

790
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 1: Burrow came out. So Burrow made a statement this week,

791
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 1: My calf feels better coming out of a game than

792
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: at any other time this season.

793
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 2: That doesn't mean he's healthy, that doesn't mean it's good.

794
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 1: It just means he's He didn't tweak it during the game.

795
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean he's he's one hundred percent healthy.

796
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,720
Speaker 2: Actually means he isn't right. He was said, Oh it's.

797
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll know I'm back to normal. That's not what

798
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 1: he said.

799
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 2: And Higgins is questionable. And no, I'll think the Cardinals

800
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:18,839
Speaker 2: are gonna give me points at home.

801
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just think I think they can just win

802
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: this outright too.

803
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,399
Speaker 2: I'm not saying they will, but if you'renn give me points,

804
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 2: I'm in.

805
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 1: H You got the one and three Jets at the

806
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: one and three Broncos, that's the fourth game.

807
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 2: They might it might be toasted.

808
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 1: Uh, the one and three Jets are the one and

809
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 1: three Broncos Denver favored by two.

810
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 2: I think that's wrong too.

811
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 1: I think that's wrong. And the over under is forty

812
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 1: three and a half. That might be wrong too, But.

813
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 2: No, I like the Jets to win outright. Yeah.

814
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: I don't know how the I don't know how the

815
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 1: Broncos score more than like thirteen points, fourteen points somewhere,

816
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: and I think they're I think they're scoring. I think

817
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 1: they score in the teams so that.

818
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 2: I think Zach Wilson might not stink anymore. I mean,

819
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 2: I'm worried that I would eat those words. But you're

820
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:04,760
Speaker 2: going to be able to just run The football defense

821
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,720
Speaker 2: is so bad it's awful, Yeah, awful.

822
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. I just think that they're they'll run right through them.

823
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: You got the three and one Chiefs at the one

824
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 1: and three Vikings k C favored by four. The over

825
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 1: under fifty two and a half.

826
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 2: I think the Vikings keep that to a field goal.

827
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 2: Chiefs Chiefs aren't.

828
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 1: Chiefs are not playing well right now.

829
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 2: No, they aren't dominating any means. They're figuring things out.

830
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 1: The over under might even be too high on.

831
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 2: That could be. I bet Kansas City.

832
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: Is Kansas City. Kansas City's defense is played okay, and I'm.

833
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 2: Maledgeable one off in the betting world, but I bet

834
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 2: most case games have gone under. Yeah, I just they

835
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,399
Speaker 2: they're not because you know, yeah, and how bikes keep

836
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:49,800
Speaker 2: that closed.

837
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 1: The Chiefs are two and five against the spread in

838
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 1: their past seven road games.

839
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 2: Spread there a little better than they are.

840
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: People still they got mahomes or a juggernaut. That's not

841
00:35:59,200 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 1: been the case.

842
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 2: It hasn't. Vikings d has been a little better than

843
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 2: I thought, too well coached, you know.

844
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 1: Uh, you got the three and one Cowboys just being

845
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 1: the Sunday night game three and one Cowboys at the

846
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,959
Speaker 1: four and o forty nine Ers San Francisco favored by four.

847
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 1: The over under is forty five.

848
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 2: If it was two and a half, I would take

849
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 2: the the Niners. I think that's a field goal game.

850
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 2: It's all said and done.

851
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 1: It wasn't in the playoffs last year.

852
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 2: I know, I know.

853
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 1: I don't trust you know this. I don't trust Dak

854
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: Prescott at all in a big game.

855
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 2: I just think four is a good number.

856
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 1: I think I think they turned Zach pre I think

857
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 1: they turned Dak Prescott over a couple of times in

858
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: this game. Could and I think the forty nine Ers cover.

859
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 2: I said this on my podcast. It's an hour ago

860
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:47,879
Speaker 2: or whatever. If it's a blowout, it's not in Dallas's favor. Yeah,

861
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 2: Like I could see them getting beat bad or it

862
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 2: being a really close game.

863
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 1: Parsons is dealing with a little bit of an injury,

864
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 1: like they're just not I don't know.

865
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 2: I hear, I hear it. If it was three or under,

866
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 2: I would definitely take the Niners.

867
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 1: And the final game, the Monday night game. This week,

868
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: you've got the Devonte Adams revenge game.

869
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 2: A lot of Steeler fans went to Vegas. How many

870
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 2: cheeseheads are gonna.

871
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,399
Speaker 1: Be yeah, right, yeah, the two and two Packers at

872
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,879
Speaker 1: the one and three Raiders. Green Bay favored by one.

873
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 1: The over under forty five or forty four and a half.

874
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 2: Actually, last I saw that green Bay was getting one, and.

875
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: This is apparently changed.

876
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, but maybe it has. I wouldn't know, but I

877
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 2: like the Packers will win big. Actually, I think the

878
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 2: Raiders are bad. I do think Devonte could go crazy.

879
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 2: But I consider Jordan Love even for one of our quarterbacks.

880
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 2: And I don't know if Jones and Watson are playing.

881
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 2: It doesn't look phenomenal. But yeah, how many the Packers there.

882
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 2: It's going to be a Hume game.

883
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: The Raiders a zero and three against the spread in

884
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 1: their last three games. Josh McDaniels in his past forty

885
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: three games as a head coach is sixteen and twenty

886
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 1: seven against the spread. He started six and zero against

887
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: the spread really as a head coach, so it's been

888
00:37:59,560 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 1: really bad.

889
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,399
Speaker 2: Since they're horrible. I think they're a pretty bad team.

890
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, maybe maybe next year when Belichick is coaching

891
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 1: the Raiders and the McDaniels is his offensive coordinator. That

892
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 1: will work out a little better.

893
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 2: That's probably what they're both suited to do. I don't

894
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 2: love Green Bay, but I think they're the better team.

895
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:18,359
Speaker 1: I think so too.

896
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 2: If that's more or less a home game for him, Yeah,

897
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 2: one's line up.

898
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's gonna do it for our game or our

899
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 1: look at the games this week. We're going to get

900
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 1: to another break when we come back. It's time for

901
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 1: our picks in the Steelers Ravens game. Matt and I

902
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 1: will do that right after this welcome back. I am

903
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,399
Speaker 1: Dale Lallie. He is the Matt Williamson. There is no

904
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 1: imitation there. There's plenty of imitators out there. He's the

905
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: only one. There aren't many Dale Lawley's out there now,

906
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: but there's probably quite a few Matt Williamson's.

907
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 2: I'm sure my kids a year or two ago googled

908
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 2: Matt Williamson, and I was the most well known one.

909
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 1: Oh well, there you go.

910
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 2: That's probably changed. My stock's definitely dropping.

911
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 1: Anyways, Matt, it's time for us to make our picks

912
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: in the Steelers Ravens game.

913
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know, man, help me go first, Go ahead,

914
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 2: So in my little brain, my little cranium, I've been

915
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 2: going back and forth. Are the team that's playing better?

916
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 2: Clearly the Ravens going to dominate this game, and don't

917
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 2: care that the names are Tomlin Harbaugh Raven Steelers or

918
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 2: is this gonna be a Raven Steeler game? And I

919
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:39,359
Speaker 2: don't know, you know, I mean, watching both games, I

920
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:43,760
Speaker 2: went with twenty four to ten Baltimore. And I bet

921
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 2: you and Pursuda, who I talked to last night that

922
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 2: sees all these games are gonna have it be a

923
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 2: field goal game one way or another because you've lived

924
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 2: through it, and not that I haven't watched them over

925
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 2: the years too. So I don't know what to do.

926
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna go with twenty four to ten Baltimore

927
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 2: or and take the emotion out of it and all

928
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 2: that stuff and just pick the better team.

929
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:11,839
Speaker 1: Okay, I get it. I think the Steelers come out

930
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 1: and do keep this a closer football game than that.

931
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 1: I do not see the offense. So what we've seen

932
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 1: thus far from the Steelers bad performance by the offense

933
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 1: a little bit better against the Bengals or the Browns

934
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: in Week two, even though that's a good defense. We

935
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 1: saw another step forward against the Raiders. Now, we saw

936
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 1: a step back last week, and yes, I get that,

937
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 1: so I expect them to get back and get things

938
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 1: righted a little bit. I do expect Kenny Pickett to

939
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 1: play better. I do expect them to lean more on

940
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 1: Augie Harrison, Najie Harris's.

941
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 2: I like what he's doing.

942
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 1: I like what he's doing, and I think I think

943
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 1: he'll have some success, And if he can have success,

944
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 1: the Steelers can stay in this game. I don't know

945
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:01,840
Speaker 1: that the Ravens necessarily have our head and shoulders better

946
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 1: at kicker.

947
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 2: No, not necessarily, I don't.

948
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 1: I don't think. I mean in years past, Oh yeah,

949
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: Tucker's the Tuckers. He's shown he's human.

950
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 2: This year, yeah, I eventually's gonna get old, right, Yeah,

951
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 2: he's greatest ever.

952
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,320
Speaker 1: So I think you know that kind of levels of

953
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 1: playing field. I do think this is going to be

954
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: a field position game. Field position game, because they all are.

955
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 1: Neither team comes out and just blows the other one's

956
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 1: doors off. Not typically it happens here and there, but

957
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 1: not on a consistent basis. Ever. I mean it's like

958
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 1: once every decade.

959
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 2: I nine out of ten, don't. I mean that's my

960
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:36,720
Speaker 2: big concern with my prediction.

961
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 1: So I do think that, and I think that Mike

962
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:44,399
Speaker 1: Tomlin challenged his team this week, uh physically in terms

963
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 1: of of hey, guys, that that what we put on

964
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:50,359
Speaker 1: the field in terms of our physicality last week. That

965
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 1: can't be. That's that's below the line.

966
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:53,720
Speaker 2: That's something you can control.

967
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 1: That is one percent something that you can control as

968
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 1: a player. And so I expect the Steelers to come

969
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 1: out and physically matched the Ravens. If not, you know,

970
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 1: out physical, then you know, the Ravens just played a

971
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 1: physical game against the Browns last week.

972
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 2: You know, I don't spite not having quarterbacks. The Browns

973
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 2: are the Browns are.

974
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a physical game. The injuries do concern me

975
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 1: a little bit here with some of the guys that

976
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,479
Speaker 1: the Steelers are going to be missing here. But again

977
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 1: we talked about that depth and the wounded animal situation here.

978
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 2: Proud organization. I get all that part. And what's your

979
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 2: what's your score?

980
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 1: I'm getting to that.

981
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 2: Oh okay, I thought I interrupted right what you were saying. No,

982
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 2: I'm getting there by all means.

983
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 1: You know, I think if the Steelers can force a

984
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 1: turnover or two which I think they're capable of doing.

985
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: They can stay in this game. And and you know,

986
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 1: despite Pickett throwing four interceptions thus far, the Steelers have

987
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: done a pretty good job taking care of the football

988
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 1: overall as a whole. Uh, the weather could affect this game,

989
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 1: and I'm not sure which team that favors.

990
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,919
Speaker 2: I'm not either. I think it could slow down edge

991
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 2: pass rushers a little, but both these teams are mutter esque. Yeah.

992
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 1: I do think that the team that were and the

993
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:10,800
Speaker 1: Ravens don't do this as much as they used to.

994
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 1: That relies more on the RPO stuff and your mesh

995
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 1: points and all that kind of stuff and getting the

996
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 1: handoffs correct. Weather can affect that, but they don't do

997
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:21,359
Speaker 1: it as much as they used to.

998
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 2: No, there's not as much. You're right about that option stuff.

999
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the read option stuff just isn't as prevalent

1000
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 1: as it was before. That's one. It's one change a

1001
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: Todd Monkin has made for the Ravens question. In the end,

1002
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,479
Speaker 1: I can't pick the Steelers in this game, not given

1003
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 1: the way they played last week. I'm going to take

1004
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 1: the Ravens twenty three seventeen. I do think the Steelers

1005
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 1: score a few more points than what's expected these things. Like,

1006
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: so the last time they played it was a sixteen

1007
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 1: thirteen game down in Baltimore. Yes, you typically get in

1008
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 1: divisional games, one game that goes over and one that

1009
00:43:58,520 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 1: goes under.

1010
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 2: Have they I mean that's just me.

1011
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, when you look at you know, two teams that

1012
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 1: know each other well and play each other a lot,

1013
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:12,359
Speaker 1: there's typically you never you rarely see what both games are,

1014
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 1: thirteen to ten something like that. Okay, I just you know,

1015
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 1: Will I'd be pleasantly surprised if the Steelers. No, I

1016
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: think the Steelers can win this game. I just I'm

1017
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:27,919
Speaker 1: just not going to pick it right now.

1018
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, just have a bad taste in my

1019
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 2: mouth of what I saw in Houston. A big concern for me,

1020
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 2: Two big concerns. One is the biggest one, honestly is

1021
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 2: the starts. If they have a slow start the Steelers

1022
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 2: against this team Ravens, have a touchdown lead at the half,

1023
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 2: they suffocate you. And I think that's that worries me

1024
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 2: a lot.

1025
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: I think if you can keep it within one score,

1026
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 1: you're still okay. Maybe you can't be two scores, Yeah,

1027
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,760
Speaker 1: you can't. They you can't allow them to just continue

1028
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 1: to milk time off the clock because they'll do that

1029
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 1: all day long.

1030
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 2: All day long. Yeah, you know, and and and you know.

1031
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 2: So that worries me is.

1032
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 1: If you could keep it, if you could keep it

1033
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 1: to seven or under, I think you're okay because Pickett

1034
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,720
Speaker 1: did show the ability last year against the same Ravens

1035
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 1: defense in the in the game's winning moments, moments to

1036
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:18,399
Speaker 1: take you down and win the game.

1037
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,399
Speaker 2: And he has faced this defense. We keep talking about

1038
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 2: the coordinator change that didn't happen, that happened two years ago.

1039
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:24,359
Speaker 2: Only face this guy.

1040
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the one that he has faced. So

1041
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 1: he is he is familiar with this. He's he's ready

1042
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 1: readied himself to play these guys now three times. And

1043
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 1: I will say this today, Pickett didn't even have the

1044
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 1: knee brace on. Like he's moving. He's moving around fine.

1045
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 1: And the that that's the knee bone bruce thing, I

1046
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 1: don't even think is a concern right now.

1047
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 2: Good, that's great. Well, I didn't expect that when I

1048
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:57,320
Speaker 2: saw that play. I hope I'm wrong, But through four games,

1049
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 2: this is true. When the Steeler defense makes big plays,

1050
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 2: they're in it. When they don't, they get beat bad.

1051
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 2: Now that needs to change. Is this offense sets you

1052
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 2: up for a lot of big plays. I don't think

1053
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:14,919
Speaker 2: it does.

1054
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 1: It doesn't.

1055
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:17,359
Speaker 2: They don't put the ball on harms way. I will

1056
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,879
Speaker 2: say it doesn't happen. I will say this though, if

1057
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:23,760
Speaker 2: you look at TJ. Watts home numbers versus his road numbers,

1058
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,439
Speaker 2: he gets a lot more sacks at home. He also

1059
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 2: has a streak going against the Ravens and an AFC

1060
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 2: North craziness, and you think they're gonna get held out.

1061
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 2: Do you think he's gonna have zero this week?

1062
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 1: Yeah? No, I don't think so at all.

1063
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 2: And I do think is going to play.

1064
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 1: I think is going to be the right tackle for

1065
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens. And that is scary.

1066
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 2: What might be the best player in the field. I

1067
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:47,399
Speaker 2: mean I'm not dismissing that at all.

1068
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 1: He's right there with Lamar right right, yeah. I mean

1069
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 1: that's your two queens on the chessboard.

1070
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 2: But when we talk Monday, it might be like, what

1071
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 2: was unbelievable? I think that's very possible.

1072
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 1: He could have a James Harrison type. You know they

1073
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 1: have a teacher ten. But if you think back to

1074
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 1: that game, like the game that James Harrison had against

1075
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,359
Speaker 1: the Ravens in two thousand and seven, when he had

1076
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 1: like ten tackles, three sacks, two forced fumbles in interception.

1077
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 2: I mean, it just was like saying defensive he did

1078
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 2: that in the.

1079
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,879
Speaker 1: Same game that Ben Roethlisberger. I think he had four

1080
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 1: first half touchdowns against the Ravens and nobody talks about that.

1081
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 1: It's all about the James Harrison at the greatest game

1082
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: I've ever seen a defensive player.

1083
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:31,359
Speaker 2: Had a couple of things I forget. Yeah, I mean

1084
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:33,359
Speaker 2: that's good at the defensive games you've ever seen.

1085
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 1: Again, if you're getting in there, if you're beating the

1086
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 1: offensive tackle at the on running plays and blowing up

1087
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 1: running play, if you're getting there as Lamar is handing

1088
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 1: the football off and you can force a fumble.

1089
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 2: And if they're not able to attack your corners because

1090
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 2: you got to get her on.

1091
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:50,760
Speaker 1: That guy, that could certainly I mean.

1092
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 2: Beat off a lot.

1093
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 1: Think back to the game against the Browns. Like again,

1094
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 1: Dwan Jones is a rookie lele as a second year player,

1095
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 1: Dwan Jones is a better player.

1096
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 2: Much rather have Jones.

1097
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 1: And t J watch just turned him into a turnstyle.

1098
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 2: He looks phenomenal this year. Yeah, and you're talking about,

1099
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 2: you know, proud guys bouncing back after sub par performances.

1100
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 1: I just think I think back to Wat Watt's sitting

1101
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 1: there after that game in Houston is saying, I had

1102
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 1: a bad game. I had a bad day. I had

1103
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 1: a bad you know, the defense as a whole, he did.

1104
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 1: But by his standards, you know, when he was, so

1105
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 1: when he's ticked off, I expect him to bounce back.

1106
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 1: I expect the rest of the defense to bounce back again.

1107
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,280
Speaker 2: I think I think phenomenal if they win this game.

1108
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Speaker 1: It's because the Again, if the defense forces some turnovers,

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Speaker 1: the Steelers can absolutely win this game. But I think

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Speaker 1: the offense plays better as well this year.

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Speaker 2: And I don't think that's a good trend to lean on.

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Speaker 1: It's it's not you know, I don't.

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Speaker 2: I mean, but that's better than anybody at doing it.

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Speaker 1: It's it's one a how they're built to built the play.

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00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 1: It's not an accident. That's what they're their defense. They're

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00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 1: built to ride their defense. That's where all the money

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00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 1: on offense, or all the money on that the roster

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00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 1: is spent on that side of the ball. You know,

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Speaker 1: we haven't seen Meca Fitzpatrick make a big play yet,

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Speaker 1: a big, big play like it looks great a turnover yet,

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Speaker 1: but he looks fantastic.

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Speaker 2: He's due Mica and Watt and high Smith don't worry

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Speaker 2: me at all.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I could see one of those guys making

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Speaker 1: getting the Steelers an early touchdown and then the offense

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00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 1: kind of right, yeah, because if you make your Ravens.

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Speaker 2: A big play in the first quarter on defense would

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Speaker 2: go a long way.

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Speaker 1: You want to talk about a team that's not built

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00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 1: you get that crowd moving. You know, a team that's

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00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 1: not built to play from behind, it's the Baltimore Ravens.

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Speaker 2: I don't know anymore.

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Speaker 1: I mean I still don't think they are. I mean

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00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 1: because they because their passing game, their passing game right

1135
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 1: now is set up for them to do twelve play drives.

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00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 2: No agreed, Agreed, Yeah, I tend to agree with you.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, they're throwing it better, and they're

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00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 1: throwing it, but they're still a run first team.

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00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 2: They so are. Yeah, I mean that's our strengths. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm interested. I mean what you don't want again is

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00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 2: the slow start, the crowd turn yeah, and.

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00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 1: You know if they go out and go three and

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00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 1: out on the first possession and the booze start, that's

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Speaker 1: really counter productive.

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00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,280
Speaker 2: First of all, you're not doing your team anything.

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00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 1: You're not doing your team any favors by.

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00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,240
Speaker 2: Doing understand your displeasure.

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00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:26,359
Speaker 1: Correct, Yeah, But at the same time, do you want

1149
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 1: them to win the game or you don't want them

1150
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 1: to win the game. That's not the best way to

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00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 1: do it.

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00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 2: That's not the best way to help the mood. Everyone

1153
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 2: understands what's going on here, folks. Yeah, you're not helping.

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00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, I'm really looking forward. I wouldn't

1155
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 1: even mind the Steelers offense and go with a little

1156
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 1: bit of pace in this game.

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Speaker 2: If I win the coin flip, I want Baltimore to

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Speaker 2: get the ball.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I want my I want my best unit

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Speaker 1: on the field.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully get a hit on Lamar. Yeah, get a tip

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00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:52,839
Speaker 2: pass or something along lines early, and then you get

1163
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Speaker 2: the ball and come out of the second.

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Speaker 1: I'll be honest too, this Baltimore defense is not as

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Speaker 1: scary as ones in the past.

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Speaker 2: I'm closed. I mean, their numbers are phenomenal, but I

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00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 2: truly and I'm not trying to make Steeler fans happy

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00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 2: or you know, optimistic. Their numbers don't reflect what you watch, right,

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00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 2: It's a fine.

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Speaker 1: You can run against this team.

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00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 2: It's a mediocre defense to meet team made some brutal team.

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Speaker 1: Their defensive numbers are propped up by the fact that

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00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,800
Speaker 1: their offense holds the ball so long. And it always

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Speaker 1: has been to some degree.

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Speaker 2: Burrow was an NFL quarterback, and you know, Minshew was

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Speaker 2: the best quarterback they played, and then you for and

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Speaker 2: then they good, but not in week one of his

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Speaker 2: whole career he wasn't.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they force you into playing their style of football

1180
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,360
Speaker 1: game more more so than.

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Speaker 2: They understand complimentary football. They know exactly what they're doing

1182
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:44,399
Speaker 2: with it, you know, right, they get it.

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00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:46,839
Speaker 1: But at the same that's why these games always play

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00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 1: out the way they do, right, right, because both of

1185
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 1: these teams when they play each other, know exactly what

1186
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 1: they wanted, how they want to play the game is

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00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:54,799
Speaker 1: exactly the same way.

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00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 2: It's why whenever we host the draft and they draft somebody,

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00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 2: it's like steel probably taking him with the next guy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah right, they try to draft the same guy.

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00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:05,439
Speaker 2: I always hope that there's gonna be a football life

1192
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 2: or thirty for thirty with Kevin Colbert and ausie K

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00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 2: Newsome sitting there having a cold one, or on a

1194
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 2: fishing boat or something like, you told this guy for me,

1195
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 2: You took this guy for me. I knew you were

1196
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,360
Speaker 2: gonna take him, and then, you know, I'd love to

1197
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 2: see them do that sometimes Harbor and Tom Win do

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00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 2: it twenty years from now when they're old man.

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Speaker 1: You know, Matt, we will be back next week to see,

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Speaker 1: well whether we were right or whether we were wrong,

1201
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:29,799
Speaker 1: or whether we were on the right track with some

1202
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 1: of this stuff. On Monday, we'll be back to do that.

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Speaker 2: In the meantime times the tape is bad, but the

1204
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 2: situation isn't for the same, and if they do win,

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Speaker 2: they're gonna they're in a good spot.

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Speaker 1: They're in a good spot heading into their by with

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Speaker 1: some guys coming back, Yeah, most notably I think Deontay

1208
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:47,919
Speaker 1: Johnson one is back coming out of the bus, which

1209
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 1: is huge. But of course you can hear Matt and

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Speaker 1: myself on the pregame show.

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Speaker 2: We'll be five days a week next week.

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Speaker 1: We'll be five day all five days next week. Absolutely

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Speaker 1: got plenty to talk about here, but that's to do

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Speaker 1: it for today's show. So for my partner Matt Williamson,

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Speaker 1: for Justin Miller here on site keeping us on the air,

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Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lollie. We appreciate you listening to this edition

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Speaker 1: of the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio