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Speaker 1: I'm assuming the friend have known each other since we

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Speaker 2: I would say at that points a one day one.

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Speaker 2: There you go.

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Speaker 3: I like that.

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Speaker 2: Really cousins practically cousins.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that. I love that. Now I would

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Speaker 1: We are in our early twenties. Problems started because of

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Speaker 1: dumb childhood memory. When we were eight, we had a

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Speaker 1: It was play with horrible songs and uncoordinated kids.

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Speaker 2: Ah, that's cuge.

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Speaker 1: That is adorable. Of course, our parents made pictures and

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Speaker 1: our family picture walls. Miles is dating Lindy. They met

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Speaker 2: That's yeah, I think that's what she's trying to say.

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Speaker 1: She's jealous. Basically, yeah, she's insecure. She one time said

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Speaker 1: I have no clue where she got that impression from.

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Speaker 2: Her legs hurt from her legs are hurt, and from

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Speaker 1: Nice, dude, you crushed that, You crushed that. You know what.

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Speaker 1: Your back is hurting from carrying this podcast. That's rights

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Speaker 1: The comments just got more. She even started dming me

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Speaker 2: Like you think you're gonna start plotting against man since

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I want to take down your little kid

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Speaker 3: Off my mind, and I'm gonna like slash your tires

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Speaker 1: She never born. That's Lindy right now. That's freaking Lindy. Okay,

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Speaker 1: the comments just got more. I was talking to Miles

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Speaker 2: Dude, Miles, your friend that you've known since too is

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Speaker 1: She should have. But we are now going to OPI

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Speaker 3: Like wow, like why did you make it like all

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Speaker 1: Made a great point. Lindy will literally complain no matter

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Speaker 2: Maybe you'll figure it out. I mean, he still the

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Speaker 1: But it seems like if I have a friendship with you.

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Speaker 1: The move is to respect his friends. And it's kind

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Speaker 2: curious about it's gonna play out.

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Speaker 1: I'm curious too. I am curious too. While there might

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Speaker 1: for okop Rewam. Would I be to a hole if

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Speaker 1: I say him? My daughter to Fat Camp? Hey, little Fat,

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Speaker 1: So you're too fat, So I'm sending you to fat camp.

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Speaker 4: Okay, actually all right, but if you get sent to

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Speaker 4: fat camp, aren't you just with a bunch of there

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Speaker 4: fat people?

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Speaker 1: And also, I think it's all about branding, but.

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Speaker 4: Like your community becomes like like you are the five

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Speaker 4: people that you associate with, right, and so the five

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Speaker 4: people you associate with all that fat camp, the probability

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Speaker 4: of you being fat.

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Speaker 1: Oh interesting, we'll continue. I thought, I thought you're you're

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Speaker 1: the angle you were taking is like, uh, the dad

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Speaker 1: is just giving her her community exactly, Like yeah, hey,

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Speaker 1: also that what's got to be with my people, my

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Speaker 1: fellow fat soos? Oh man, all right, So I just

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Speaker 1: got into a huge argument with my ex husband about this.

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Speaker 1: My fourteen year old daughter Abby just hit two hundred

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Speaker 1: and ten pounds. How tall is she? It doesn't matter,

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Speaker 1: But I mean unless she's like six eight, that's pretty rough.

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Speaker 1: And at fourteen, I think that's like, I think it's

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Speaker 1: one thing if you're an adult and you're like, okay,

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Speaker 1: whatever you're on, you're kind of an adult and you're off,

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Speaker 1: you're doing your own thing, but like the kid be

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Speaker 1: to ten man, that that that yeah, that's unfortunate. That's big.

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Speaker 1: That's big. Uh. This started about one point five years

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Speaker 1: ago when me and my ex's divorce was finalized. Yo,

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Speaker 1: in one and a half years, she gained like one

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Speaker 1: hundred pounds, that's I mean, yeah, fourteen years yeah probably,

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Speaker 1: I mean how much did yeah? How much? How much

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Speaker 1: does a fourteen year old girl?

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Speaker 2: Way?

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Speaker 1: I probably like seventy pounds, like definitely below one hundred,

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Speaker 1: one hundred and five, but still, I mean that's that's over.

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Speaker 1: That's over one hundred pounds gained. If she was at

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Speaker 1: a normal weight, that is fourteen year olds joint she

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Speaker 1: weighs to fourteen good gravy. Oh okay, so growing up,

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Speaker 1: Abby was always an average weight. So yeah, she's probably

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Speaker 1: one hundred five until we got fifty to fifty custody.

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Speaker 1: When we were together, I would do the cooking and

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Speaker 1: the shopping, and we ate a pretty good diet with

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Speaker 1: some junk food thrown in here there, which is fine. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the divorce was kind of messy, but we sent the

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Speaker 1: kids to therapy and it was doable. Abby started gaining

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Speaker 1: weight when we went fifty to fifty co parenting, so

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Speaker 1: basically the mom's probably like feeding her twinkies and like

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Speaker 1: ice cream and oh yeah, oh he's a wife. So

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Speaker 1: the dad, Oh the dad, dad would be yeah, the dad.

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Speaker 1: The dad got her fat at the beginning. I just

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Speaker 1: thought it was gaining weight before a growth spurt. But

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Speaker 1: this was not the case. It does not seem like

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Speaker 1: he could not grow either. Yeah. Oh well, I think

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Speaker 1: like when she when she started getting weight, she was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: it's probably just like yeah, maybe the change will even out.

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Speaker 1: It'll even out. But it didn't. At my house she

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Speaker 1: was eating okay, but at her father's it was all

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Speaker 1: junk food. He doesn't cook, and he makes it worse

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Speaker 1: because he lives by if it's on your plate, you

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Speaker 1: eat it. So in short, he is giving her way

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Speaker 1: too big proportions of crap and she made has to

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Speaker 1: eat it. Oh that is terribly, so stupid. He did

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Speaker 1: not realize that he's like inflating his daughter. Literally, I've

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Speaker 1: talked to him so many times. I have tried to

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Speaker 1: let her serve her own food amount instead of him

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Speaker 1: loading up her plate, but he will budge. So he's

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Speaker 1: he's literally like he's the problem, bro. Just just have

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Speaker 1: the food, like okay, whatever you're you you just like

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Speaker 1: crying on the table it's like, what literally, just like,

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Speaker 1: here's the food, add it to your plate. Yeah, it's simple,

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Speaker 1: my god, to be fair. My parents also kind of

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Speaker 1: had that rule where it's like, you know, don't waste food. Ah,

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Speaker 1: it's different. It's it's different. It sounds like, yeah, the

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Speaker 1: dad is like giving her like huge portions and then

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Speaker 1: like forcing her to it too much.

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Speaker 4: They're giving you like he's like he's giving her equal

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Speaker 4: portions to him, and he's probably way too.

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Speaker 1: That's probably right. I got Abby into sports, which she

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Speaker 1: enjoys for the most part, but it's not enough to

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Speaker 1: stop the weight gain. I went to the doctor a

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Speaker 1: nutritionists and it comes down to her basically eating three

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Speaker 1: times the calories at her father's place. Three times. If

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Speaker 1: you think about it, that's like eating nine normal meals

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Speaker 2: Nine.

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Speaker 1: That's insane. That's crazy. So, since Abby likes soccer, I

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Speaker 1: found an overnight camp from Friday to Sunday night, the

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Speaker 1: days that he usually has Abby. Okay, I can see

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Speaker 1: where that could garners of friction. I'd be seemed on

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Speaker 1: not be feeding her or even really seeing her for

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Speaker 1: the next couple of months. Okay, that's well yeah, borderline

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Speaker 1: Dvius right there. Yeah, I would at least, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you can't really control it, probably with the timing of it,

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Speaker 1: but like ideally it's split like you know, or you

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Speaker 1: know what, they changed the co parenting schedule so that way,

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Speaker 1: like half of that top half of the camp she's

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Speaker 1: would have been her mom's time, and then the other

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Speaker 1: half is like the dad's. Yeah, but I guess like

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Speaker 1: the other you know, that means she's still eating badly

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Speaker 1: at her dad some Yeah, but I guess it's less

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Speaker 1: half of the time. Yeah. I informed him of the

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Speaker 1: camp and that Abby wants to do it. It was

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Speaker 1: a big argument that he circled around to her weight.

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Speaker 1: He accused me of sending her to fat camp. So

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Speaker 1: am I the a hole? And edit, I am currently

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Speaker 1: talking to a lawyer to try to get custody changed

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Speaker 1: or at least a food clause in the agreement. There's

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Speaker 1: food clauses. That's crazy. I mean, I guess it makes sense,

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Speaker 1: like at the end of it, like think about our contract.

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Speaker 1: It's like at the end of the day, it's a

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Speaker 1: very specific thing to like what we do with a

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Speaker 1: brand or whatever. So it's like all right with the children.

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Speaker 1: It's whatever you do with the children. They have to

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Speaker 1: agree on that thing. Bizar it is crazy.

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Speaker 4: I don't think the mall like it sounds like it's

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Speaker 4: something that the kid wants to do, so it's like

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Speaker 4: not like bad for the kid, it is devious to

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Speaker 4: put on them. Then it's like the dad's not seeing

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Speaker 4: his kids, but the dad needs to. Like I think

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Speaker 4: the food.

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Speaker 1: Clause thing is a good idea because that's obviously at

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Speaker 1: her child in a negative way. I think if she's

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Speaker 1: of like look, it doesn't even have to be like

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Speaker 1: basically forcing her to overeat ye like which when you

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Speaker 1: think about it that way, like really it's insanity. What's

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Speaker 1: you gonna do