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Speaker 1: This is the Players Lounge, broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 1: World headquarters at the Star. Now your hosts Barry Church,

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Speaker 1: Anthony dor sat De, Montrey Moore, and new He scrugs.

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Speaker 2: Here we are.

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Speaker 3: It is the postseason edition of the Players out right

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Speaker 3: here on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Anthony Dorset, he's here

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Speaker 3: in the house. You've got to Montree Moore here. I knew,

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Speaker 3: he scrugs Bury. Church is out vacationing, but the Cowboys

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Speaker 3: ain't playing in the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: Barry Church ain't got time, and I get it. I

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Speaker 4: ain't mad at you. Barry Church.

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Speaker 3: Just get on that shod con yacht and let me

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Speaker 3: know how it is. They put that thing on Instagram

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Speaker 3: social media today.

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Speaker 4: That yacht is tremendous.

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Speaker 5: I gotta see it. Why y'all don't posted in the

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Speaker 5: chest it is?

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Speaker 3: It is unbelieved because I said I need Barry to

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Speaker 3: do it. Barry's actually went on to senile Church.

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Speaker 5: He don't keep up with nothing.

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Speaker 2: He got a room on that yacht man.

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Speaker 5: Barry said, I got my money and I was gone.

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Speaker 3: All right, we'll diveing to the Cowboys. But some NFL

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Speaker 3: news happening here. A coach soul is out in Miami.

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Speaker 3: Mike McDaniel fired by the Dolphins four years, thirty five

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Speaker 3: and thirty three record second straight losing season. He's forty

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Speaker 3: two years old. He's back on the market. This is

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Speaker 3: a surprise to no one. Bitch to a tongue of ioloa.

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Speaker 3: His quarterback went with Quinn yours that went nowhere. So

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Speaker 3: now there is another job opening.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of jobs out here.

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Speaker 3: Twenty five percent of the league been fires head coaches

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Speaker 3: twenty league twenty five percent.

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Speaker 6: Man, it's a bogo sell everything must go. Man, that

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Speaker 6: is unfortunate.

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Speaker 7: But we're seeing coaches like I mean, it was a

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Speaker 7: point in time. I remember when I was younger coaches

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Speaker 7: would get a job and they may have, as we say,

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Speaker 7: a long releash than some of these coaches are getting.

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Speaker 2: But guys are getting one year they won and done.

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Speaker 7: It's like it's like a kids going to play basketball.

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Speaker 2: Now you get one year and you out of there.

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Speaker 7: You know, I know for a fact we both understand

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Speaker 7: Pete Carroll, you know, and you know coach Carroll was

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Speaker 7: was was a younger coach, I mean an older coach,

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Speaker 7: but of course, you know, just with with his with

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Speaker 7: his history behind him and every everything that went with him,

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Speaker 7: you would think that maybe he might got at least

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Speaker 7: another year out there. But you know, just like you said,

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Speaker 7: coach Sol twenty five percent of the league. Now, this,

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Speaker 7: this is this is a trend at this point right now.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's but it's always this. Every year we're

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Speaker 3: seeing massive turnover in the league. I mean, this is

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Speaker 3: just a part of it now. I mean, this happens.

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Speaker 3: I mean, look last year. Last year was New Orleans

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Speaker 3: moving on. The Cowboys moved on last year.

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Speaker 2: Mean, this is the league.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna happen. You're gonna have five.

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Speaker 3: Plus coaches a year getting gone the Giants, you know,

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Speaker 3: Giants should have moved on from Dave Ball last year.

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Speaker 3: We're watching some of these teams go too late. The Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: I think the Cowboys went too late.

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Speaker 5: You think the Cowboys went too late?

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Speaker 3: When Okay, so after that whole debacle in the playoffs

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Jerry kept him and it was what he had one

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Speaker 3: extend it. And so you guys have been players. You know,

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Speaker 3: everybody understands when the coach on the last year and

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Speaker 3: I don't I need to keep the keep the rent

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Speaker 4: And where where the kid's gonna be.

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Speaker 3: I mean there's a lot of tension going on and

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Speaker 3: So if you if you weren't sold on it, then

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Speaker 3: you needed to go get sold on someone else. The

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Speaker 4: We're back.

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Speaker 3: The head coach didn't look what happened? Man, thing God

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Speaker 3: So got Atlanta's looking forehead coach, Giants looking forehead coach,

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Speaker 4: Now you got Miami.

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Speaker 7: So and one thing about it is this the names

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Speaker 7: like Jason Gearrett up here now, Mike McCarthy. It's one

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Speaker 7: it's like the same people keep getting back on the ride.

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Speaker 7: They get put it off over here, they fall off

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Speaker 6: Some of those guys deserve to be coordinators from just

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Speaker 6: their lineage, and just some of them, honestly are better coordinators.

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Speaker 6: Everybody that's a good coordinator is not a good head coaching.

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Speaker 6: Vice versas everybody that's a good head coach might not

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Speaker 6: have been the best of coordinators. And I think about

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Speaker 5: The guys galvanized behind him.

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Speaker 6: He is smart in his offensive paras, like learning under

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Speaker 6: Kyle Shanahan. I think he would be a better coordinator

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Speaker 6: right now. Maybe come back and give it a shot

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Speaker 6: later on, just like some of these other guys you

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Speaker 6: and then I agree with your statement that you said

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Speaker 6: the places that should have kept their coach because it

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Speaker 6: takes a minute to build a culture. You can't just say,

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Speaker 6: especially in an organization like that, from all the things

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Speaker 6: have been there, Like you said, Coach Sole's been there

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Speaker 6: and been having a losing record this whole time and

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Speaker 3: So okay, So I'll say this, Anthony, when you mentioned

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Speaker 3: some of the names, you mentioned, some of the resumes

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Speaker 3: do warrant a second look. Jason Garrett was a Coach

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Speaker 3: I thought they wasted ten years with Jason.

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Speaker 4: But that was just me.

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Speaker 3: But the opportunity when I see some other guys getting

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Speaker 3: Jason can at one. Mike McCarthy, he has won a

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Speaker 2: What's to do?

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Speaker 4: Eric Mangini had two of them now and I come

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Speaker 7: It goes back to what he's said about some dudes

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Speaker 3: Guys, you've had second chances. Mike Shanahan. People forget Al

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Speaker 3: Davis hired Mike Shanahan very young. Ends up going to

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Speaker 3: the Denver Broncos. Later on after a stint with San Francisco,

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Speaker 4: Marty Schottenheimer. He was in Cleveland.

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Speaker 3: Marty had great years in Kansas City, fantastic in San Diego.

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Speaker 3: Shula's second team was Miami. He was the head coach

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Speaker 4: He forget that.

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Speaker 5: Tony Dungee.

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Speaker 3: Tony Dungee was run out of Tampa Bay and goes

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Speaker 4: Bill Belichick today. I was there in.

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Speaker 3: Cleveland when Belichick got run off and we saw what

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Speaker 3: he's done. And then you talk about Pete Pete's third

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Speaker 3: of think about what happened to him in New England.

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Speaker 3: He replaced Parcels, gets fired, then got replaced by Belichick.

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Speaker 3: He just got put into a wrong spot. So you

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Speaker 3: on Joe Tory was on his third job managing with

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Speaker 3: it ain't Joe.

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Speaker 4: And they hired it man.

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Speaker 3: So I think it really does depend on who's the coach.

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Speaker 3: What is your plan to be better?

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Speaker 2: That's the main.

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Speaker 4: That's what you got to get to Desert. You got

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Speaker 4: to get you tell me what went wrong in the

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Speaker 3: Oh, by the way, who were you working with? Because

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Speaker 3: Mike Shanahan isn't man. I worked with Al Davis and

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Speaker 4: If you tell me what you know?

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Speaker 6: You know how I was so that And that's why

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Speaker 6: a lot of these guys understand it's a carousel. Some

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Speaker 6: and then it's somewhere you're like, nah, you don't, you

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Speaker 6: like ebra Flus, he just got let go even though

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Speaker 6: he didn't have a good year here the prior, every

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Speaker 6: defense that he's been associated with before then, it's been

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Speaker 2: It was it was it was the reasons behind that defense.

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Speaker 6: No, you can't say there's reasons behind the one. They

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Speaker 7: Okay, but I don't want to debate this with you.

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Speaker 7: But the strength of schedule for that team was like

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Speaker 2: So when you put it together, like.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, he might have had a top defense against playing

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Speaker 7: the easiest schedule in the NFL, but he had.

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Speaker 5: It multiple years back to back. He had a top

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Speaker 6: Of ten defense that he took from the bottom of

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Speaker 6: And then you had when you were at the Colts.

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Speaker 5: Again.

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Speaker 6: That's why he that was the reason why he got

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Speaker 3: Here's what I'll be interested when you bring that about

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Speaker 7: I'm I'm and and I'm not trying to be the

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Speaker 7: then right behind that he got but he got buckets

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Speaker 6: But I'm gonna send this to you, and you just

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Speaker 6: I mean you can, you can send it to men.

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Speaker 5: I'll leave it here.

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Speaker 6: It's the same I posted the numbers of what they

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Speaker 6: regardless if you're a defensive coordinator, it doesn't matter if

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Speaker 6: There are some coaches that, hey, their scheme is just

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Speaker 6: of that. Well, you can't get mad at him for

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Speaker 6: And then that comes back in the play of what

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Speaker 6: Another guy that I think of who's been getting so

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Speaker 5: And eber Flutes is a guy like that.

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Speaker 3: They that clearly they missed the Cowboys. Okay, here's the

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Speaker 4: We like him.

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Speaker 3: He was never the coordinator here. He was a part

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Speaker 3: Jerry talked about how we are probably going to keep

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Speaker 1: To the Players LOUNDE.

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Speaker 6: The Walter Payton NFL Man Under the Year Award, presented

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Speaker 3: Solomon Thomas definitely is an impactful man off the football

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Speaker 6: I want to ask you one quick question. I know

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Speaker 6: But we got a big dosage of the other interview

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Speaker 5: Does that hold any weight?

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Speaker 3: So no one at the press or yesterday asked about that,

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Speaker 5: And maybe that's just me being biased.

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Speaker 3: you're talking about here is who's gonna be D line coach?

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Speaker 4: You bringing back Aaron White Cotton.

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Speaker 3: I mean you're talking about three dudes under contract that

445
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Speaker 3: they have high expectations for. Solomon Thomas is a he's

446
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Speaker 3: a contributor. And if they want to bring back Aaron

447
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Speaker 3: White Cootton in the next DC says hey, look this

448
00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,560
Speaker 3: guy fits me. Or as you well know because you

449
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Speaker 3: played DC played D line in the league, there're gonna

450
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Speaker 3: be certain guys a D line coach is going to gravitate. Hey,

451
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Speaker 3: this guy knows what it is. I want to do so.

452
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Speaker 3: Solomon Thomas clearly is a guy that had a connect

453
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Speaker 3: with white Cotton. They were with the Jets. Who's to

454
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Speaker 3: say this next defensive coordinator and d line coach. If

455
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Speaker 3: they make a change with White Cotton, they move differently.

456
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Speaker 3: So I think some of his fate will rest a

457
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Speaker 3: little bit in the decision making of who comes in.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, guys, Solomon Thomas is under contract

459
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Speaker 2: for next year.

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Speaker 4: He signed a two year deal last.

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Speaker 5: Year for six million bucks.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well he has twenty twenty six.

463
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Speaker 3: And you know what I was going to say, next thing,

464
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Speaker 3: Solomon Thomas a good football player and a good city

465
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Speaker 3: and sell boom.

466
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Speaker 4: There we go.

467
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Speaker 3: So we got no no worries about that. Aaron white Cotton.

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Speaker 3: I do wonder what they will do there. I think

469
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Speaker 3: he's a good football coach. But if you're going to

470
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Speaker 3: bring in a coordinator, you do have to have the

471
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Speaker 3: conversation with the coordinator. Are you allowed to bring in

472
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Speaker 3: the people you want to help implement your system? D

473
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Speaker 3: Q was able to do that. He had good successes

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Speaker 3: that go ahead, And.

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Speaker 2: I think you know, and this is just me.

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Speaker 7: You know, we've spoke about this in the chat and

477
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Speaker 7: you guys heard me say this already. I think like

478
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Speaker 7: the whole defensive coaching staff could be questionably up for

479
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Speaker 7: replacing at this point in time. I mean, because like,

480
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Speaker 7: regardless of what eber Flus and you said, like, they

481
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Speaker 7: want a coach to come in here and be able

482
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Speaker 7: to tease the players and be able to and be

483
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Speaker 7: able to communicate with him once once he comes from

484
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Speaker 7: the from the DC, we all break down and go

485
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Speaker 7: into our individual meeting rooms and from there, you're your

486
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Speaker 7: position coach has to be a teacher, regardless of the

487
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Speaker 7: lack of what your DC then gave you in the

488
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Speaker 7: meeting room or whatever it's for your position coaching, you know,

489
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Speaker 7: like I know, to clear up and to fill in

490
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Speaker 7: all those gaps. And so what I'm seeing and what

491
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Speaker 7: I'm recognizing here is that the teaching level at what

492
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Speaker 7: was going on in those meeting rooms was not being

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Speaker 7: communicated on any level to anybody.

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Speaker 5: Well you say, and get rid of everyb hey man.

495
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Speaker 7: I'm saying like, and that's part of a culture changing

496
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Speaker 7: shift to as well. Sometimes you know what I mean,

497
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Speaker 7: fresh blood, new energy and just just a whole new

498
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Speaker 7: face for the program.

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Speaker 3: He's Anthony Dorsett that's Trey more than former NFL players

500
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Speaker 3: of New Strutch. This is the players line spot to

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Speaker 3: you by Aristocrat Gaming on Dallas Cowboys dot com. So

502
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Speaker 3: the Cowboys do need a new defensive coordinator. They let

503
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Speaker 3: Matt Eberflus go. So names that have been mentioned here.

504
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Speaker 3: Brian Flores who's with Minnesota. Brian Floores right now is

505
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Speaker 3: apparently up to be interviewed for the multiple Ravens head

506
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Speaker 3: coaching job. He is a former NFL coach, was with

507
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Speaker 3: the Patriots, won Super bowls here, so the Cowboys could

508
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Speaker 3: have him on their list. They did not say any

509
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Speaker 3: names yesterday at all. Raheem Moore's recently fired by the

510
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Speaker 3: Atlanta Falcons. The name that has been out there Jonathan Gannon,

511
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Speaker 3: who was fired as a head coach of the Arizona Cardinals.

512
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Speaker 3: Former Philadelphia defensive coordinator that helped him go to the

513
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Speaker 3: Super Bowl that lost to Kansas City. His name is

514
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Speaker 3: out there. Jim Leonard. His name was brought up in

515
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Speaker 3: the press conference. Brian Schottenhiro and knows Jim because Jim

516
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 3: played on the Jets teams when he was the offensive

517
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Speaker 3: coordinator there. And then I brought up to Shoddy about

518
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Speaker 3: Dennis Thurman, former Dallas Cowboy defensive back.

519
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Speaker 4: Here Thurman's thieves.

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Speaker 3: Shoddy and DT coached together at USC, and they coached

521
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Speaker 3: together with the Jets. You start talking about a teacher.

522
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Speaker 3: Troy Polamalo was a guy that he had down there.

523
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Speaker 3: Ronnie Lott was a freshman when DT was an older

524
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Speaker 3: player at USC. Ronnie followed DT around. You talk about

525
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Speaker 3: Ed Reid, you talk about Darell Reeves. These are players

526
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Speaker 3: that Dennis Thurman has coached. Deon Sanders, He's coached them,

527
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Speaker 3: Ray Lewis, He's coached him as a defensive coordinator with

528
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Speaker 3: the Jets and the Buffalo Bills. There's a guy. When

529
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Speaker 3: you talk about we want high energy, we want a

530
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Speaker 3: teacher and a communicator.

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Speaker 4: Shoty did it? Mit?

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Speaker 3: Dennis Thurman could do that. So these are just five

533
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Speaker 3: names right here that we're talking about. Could they bring

534
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Speaker 3: someone else in, Obviously they could, but they they've got

535
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Speaker 3: to go get somebody to improve the.

536
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Speaker 4: Defense to be better.

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Speaker 2: When that Matt Eberflus was definitely Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I think that list that was an impressive Listen. I

539
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 6: think that a lot of those guys that I'm seeing is.

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Speaker 3: Eight and dirty. By the way, former eight and dirty

541
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Speaker 3: former D line coach. He who's now with Seattle. He's

542
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Speaker 3: technically their defensive coordinator, but he doesn't call the defense.

543
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Speaker 6: So there's see a lot of these guys are leaders

544
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Speaker 6: of mean and there you're starting to see. I feel

545
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Speaker 6: like a lot of those guys shares the same coaching

546
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Speaker 6: qualities that Shoty has displayed of being a leader of man,

547
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,919
Speaker 6: being high energy, but being very well knowledgeable and having

548
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Speaker 6: the experience behind them. And so to shake it up,

549
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Speaker 6: you gotta really shake it up. And to get back

550
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Speaker 6: to what we were talking about earlier, I do believe

551
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Speaker 6: that sometimes you do just gotta clean everything and like

552
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Speaker 6: you got to give the DC majority of the control.

553
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Speaker 6: But I feel like all DC's when they're coming in,

554
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 6: they have their guys, but most people usually always keep

555
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Speaker 6: one guy on staff because that one guy on staff

556
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 6: has to know the players that they already have. Right now, Hey,

557
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Speaker 6: we're gonna trust your opinion, like everything sucked, but we

558
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Speaker 6: need you to tell us about the diamonds and the

559
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Speaker 6: rough that are on the back end, the guys that

560
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 6: need to develop and stuff like that, and also with

561
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Speaker 6: the schematics that we're bringing in, hopefully you know, like

562
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Speaker 6: with a guy like Dennis, He's not gonna have that

563
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Speaker 6: trouble when you come in here and say hey, I

564
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Speaker 6: coach Ray Lewis and guys like that, some other guys

565
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Speaker 6: there's gonna be like ah, man, knowing who you could

566
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Speaker 6: have had, that's where you have the backlash. And so

567
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Speaker 6: where you ease that bridge is keeping somebody on staff

568
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Speaker 6: currently that can say hey, I can tell you the

569
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Speaker 6: difference between last year ebra Flus defense and what we

570
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Speaker 6: got right here and how this is going to change.

571
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Speaker 6: And that guy is whoever they trust in the locker room.

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Speaker 6: So I know that it was very long winded. I

573
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Speaker 6: want to ask you who on this defensive staff newly

574
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Speaker 6: what you being in there? Who's that guy where players

575
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Speaker 6: are like, hey man, you know what, I don't care

576
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Speaker 6: what's going on with the DC, like I trust this

577
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Speaker 6: guy in his.

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Speaker 3: Opinion, defensive line Coacharan Whitecott has that respect. I mean

579
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Speaker 3: Quinn Williams, who they really do like Quentin Williams here

580
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Speaker 3: in terms of his leadership and the things that he brings.

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Speaker 3: So I think that's going to be a conversation that

582
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Speaker 3: whoever they bring in as a DC. And you know,

583
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Speaker 3: I don't even know if Aaron is going to be

584
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Speaker 3: somebody they look at us in terms of a DC

585
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Speaker 3: so that they could do that as well. But I

586
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Speaker 3: think that's the kind of guy that they would look

587
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Speaker 3: to to say, hey, can you interview him and let's

588
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Speaker 3: see if there's a fit.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, like with this right now, you got it,

590
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Speaker 7: you got it. You gotta hit the ball at the park,

591
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 7: you gotta, you gotta, you gotta get a home run,

592
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Speaker 7: grand slam, hot, whatever you want to call it.

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Speaker 2: And at this point you mentioned some of those names.

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Speaker 7: Everybody on that list has not been a d C before,

595
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Speaker 7: So like if you ain't been to d C before,

596
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Speaker 7: you ain't had the responsibility of being in DC.

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Speaker 2: I don't think Jim Leonard has ever been in DC.

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Speaker 4: Not at the NFL level.

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00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 3: Okay, agent level he has, but they did say the

600
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Speaker 3: press conference that was not a prerequisite.

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Speaker 7: So so for me, I'm looking at somebody that's done

602
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Speaker 7: it and been successful at doing it. Okay, like you

603
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 7: could bet it. You could have been a great position guy,

604
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Speaker 7: and the college you can call you. You know, you

605
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,199
Speaker 7: could be a DC in college too as well. But

606
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Speaker 7: at this level, I want to see somebody who has

607
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Speaker 7: you know, basically as they say, earn their chops. As

608
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Speaker 7: far as you know, getting it done at this level,

609
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Speaker 7: I don't want to where this team has been through

610
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Speaker 7: already with the past four defensive coordinators, you can't really

611
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Speaker 7: leave a whole lot out the question about how it's

612
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Speaker 7: going to look or how it might go. If you

613
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Speaker 7: have a guy like d C like you know, Dennis Derman,

614
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Speaker 7: I'm sorry, who's been doing it for years, has been successful,

615
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 7: you could basically look at his track record. You can

616
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Speaker 7: see what he's done over the years and see how

617
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Speaker 7: his defenses are going to go. I think that's going

618
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Speaker 7: to be more of a benefit than right now in

619
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Speaker 7: giving a guy an opportunity to come in here and

620
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Speaker 7: maybe like, let's see how it works and nah, let's

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Speaker 7: get a cracking right off the rip.

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Speaker 3: Let me ask you this question, idiot, why do they

623
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Speaker 3: not lean more towards players former players who are coaches.

624
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Speaker 3: The greatest coach in this franchise's history was outstanding defensive

625
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 3: back named Tom Landry played in this league that when

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Speaker 3: something and said, you guys are players. When somebody sits

627
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Speaker 3: here and tells you, hey, man, you need to put

628
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 3: your back foot over here, and you need to be

629
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Speaker 3: looking over there's a whole different kind of jam when

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Speaker 3: you know this dude is stepped on this field and

631
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Speaker 3: played at this level. That's kind of something I do

632
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 3: wonder about sometimes when I see what's going on here.

633
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Speaker 7: That's been a question to me about this building since

634
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 7: I stepped foot up in here. And unfortunately, you know,

635
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 7: I had the opportunity to pay for the Raiders, and

636
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 7: once Raider always raided. But I had this open door

637
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Speaker 7: policy to the point where, like you be a practice

638
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 7: and you look over here and you might see Jack Tatum,

639
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 7: you might see a Jim Otto. You like these these

640
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 7: old name greats, Phil Villapiano, Hey, anybody that you can

641
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 7: imagine they played for the Raiders will be at practice.

642
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 7: And then if you were that type of player to

643
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 7: not be shy or whatever and just really go over

644
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Speaker 7: there and start asking questions, you know they was gonna

645
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Speaker 7: give it to you.

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Speaker 2: There was never a guy that came.

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Speaker 7: Through that building to say, hey man, I can't can't

648
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 7: help you out right now. And so here there have

649
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Speaker 7: been days I come up in here and I walk

650
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Speaker 7: past Everson Walls.

651
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Speaker 2: I mean, Nate Newton does the show before we do it.

652
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Speaker 7: You know what I mean, and so when you have,

653
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Speaker 7: like any type of situation that is going on where

654
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 7: you're teaching situational football, like you said, there is no

655
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Speaker 7: better teacher, none, There is no better teacher than somebody

656
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Speaker 7: who has actually done it and done it at a

657
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Speaker 7: high level, high level.

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Speaker 2: You can't you can't replace that.

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Speaker 7: And so I've had I've had good I've had good

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Speaker 7: coaches who didn't play the position, and I don't take

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Speaker 7: anything away from them, but to have those guys who

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Speaker 7: have actually put that foot in the ground, like you said,

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Speaker 7: they know how your body gonna feel when it's coming

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Speaker 7: out that break, or what you're gonna have to do

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Speaker 7: when you need to reach with the wrong hand because

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Speaker 7: they know that the right hand ain't the right hand

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Speaker 7: at that time. You know, it's things like that that

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Speaker 7: are that that that are priceless. They can't be taught

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Speaker 7: by people who have not done it.

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Speaker 5: Yes, and I agree wholeheartedly with that.

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Speaker 6: And to to answer the question, well, because you say

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Speaker 6: why you don't see as many players like I'm gonna

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Speaker 6: call a spade a spade, and I'm not talking about

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Speaker 6: this organization. I'm talking about as a whole. The NFL

676
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Speaker 6: is an ego driven league. It is at some point

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Speaker 6: in time what always happened with great franchises an organization.

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Speaker 6: There is discontent between the head coach, the GM or

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Speaker 6: the owner because somebody think that their role is too

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Speaker 6: bigger than what it really is. And sometimes it's like, hey,

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Speaker 6: is he going to run it the way that I

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Speaker 6: want to run it? Is he going to run it

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Speaker 6: the way that I'm going to let him run it?

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Speaker 6: And if I let him run it, if I trust

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Speaker 6: his leadership, cool, that's doing that. But to bring a

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Speaker 6: line coach who just got done playing.

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Speaker 5: The players respect him, he's relatable.

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Speaker 6: But you have a guy that is the defensive coordinator

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Speaker 6: or the head coach, I'm cautious with bringing him in

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Speaker 6: because are you going to undermine me? Are you truly

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Speaker 6: exhibiting the qualities that ad is talking about by coaching

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Speaker 6: them up and certain things that I just can't see

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Speaker 6: and being relatable to where now, what happens the one

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Speaker 6: moment that I call something wrong or do something and

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Speaker 6: it sounds idiotic. Then it's like, oh, let's not listen

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Speaker 6: to this guy because he hasn't played, So we're going

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Speaker 6: to listen to this guy. And then now guess what,

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Speaker 6: they're no longer respecting you and they're going to the

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Speaker 6: whatever the case may be, whoever that falls up under

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Speaker 6: that umbrella, guess what gets into play. Am I confident

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Speaker 6: enough to where I say I can still run this

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Speaker 6: And if you can't, that's why you say, hey, hold

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Speaker 6: up the horses, because players are gonna do what what

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Speaker 6: are we gonna do? This is the players low. It's

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Speaker 6: our loyalty to each other. So how many times have

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Speaker 6: because that's a better situation over there, play a better

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Speaker 6: technique over there, because yes, he's telling you that for

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Speaker 6: good to twenty eight other people to get you paid

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Speaker 6: at the end. And now, what's good for the players

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Speaker 3: It's just interesting because you think Tony Dungee, Tony playing

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Speaker 4: Tony Dunye was on Super Bowl team.

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Speaker 3: Kellen Moore's coaching New Orleans, and I think he's done

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Speaker 4: Kellen played in this league.

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Speaker 3: It's just it's just interacting. Not that you have to

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Speaker 4: Play the league.

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Speaker 3: They've been successful coaches, but you have an opportunity to

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Speaker 5: Yeah. I think they'll be able to make a deal.

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Speaker 6: say hey, let's do this. It's like, hey, you want

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Speaker 6: to give them a discount one because it's Dallas, the

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Speaker 6: you're not going to overpay. The one thing that I

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Speaker 6: do see from this is I see all three gentlemen

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Speaker 6: so I think they're going to meet that middle ground.

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Speaker 6: It's just about how much is.

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Speaker 7: Going to be there, And yeah, I think that, you know,

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Speaker 7: he definitely showed and improved last year. That was one

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Speaker 7: of the biggest question marks I had going into the

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Speaker 7: season and especially in the preseason, that being able to

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Speaker 7: that he basedasically not basically that he definitely deserves to

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Speaker 7: be brought back. And he also did did pretty well

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Speaker 7: in the past game too as far as run blocking

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Speaker 7: the building now, just like we said, do not overpay

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Speaker 7: for it though, you know what I mean. And at

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Speaker 2: End of the season.

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Speaker 4: Davis.

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Speaker 7: Yes, I think like you definitely have to have something

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Speaker 6: And I think the good thing not to cut you

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Speaker 6: him is that the other running backs didn't play extremely well.

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Speaker 6: You didn't have a one A one B. And most

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Speaker 6: a thousand yard rusher, lett him get out of here.

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Speaker 6: It's not that impressive to see how well he did

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Speaker 6: over there at the Panthers. I think it's like, hey,

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Speaker 5: This go again.

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Speaker 6: This is another hidden gym that we can get and

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Speaker 6: we can pay, but not overpay and not pay top

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Speaker 7: Markets that position has been devalued the way that it

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Speaker 5: But like I said, I think he will. This is

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Speaker 5: the year to leverage it. With Jerry.

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Speaker 6: Some of the toys that he got he didn't get

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Speaker 6: to get last year. This year, now he gets to

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Speaker 3: All right, So what we'll do next time around here

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Speaker 3: next week when we do the show is dive into

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Speaker 3: an area that Jerry addressed more so off the podium,

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Speaker 3: If I'm Tyler Gotton, I'm really worried about what's going on.

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Speaker 3: If I am Terrence Steele, I'm worried about where I'll

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Speaker 3: be playing next year. Just listening to the tea leaves

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Speaker 3: from the owner and general manager Jerry Johnes, Anthony Dorsett

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Speaker 3: appreciate you being here. Trey Moore appreciate you.

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