1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, Radio News. 2 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 2: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here 3 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 2: are the stories we're following today. 4 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 3: Karen, we begin with the latest on the effort to 5 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 3: end the war in Ukraine. President Vladimir Zelenski and European 6 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 3: leaders will hold a call with President Donald Trump later 7 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 3: today ahead of the President's Friday summit with Vladimir Putin 8 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 3: in Alaska. Here's Lenski speaking through an interpreter. Would it's 9 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 3: impossible to talk about Ukraine without Ukraine and no one 10 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 3: will accept that. 11 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 4: But they cannot agree on anything about Ukraine without us. 12 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 3: That was Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky ahead of his call 13 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 3: today with President Trump and European leaders. For more, let's 14 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:51,480 Speaker 3: bring in Bloomberg's Ewan Pots in London. Ewan, what's the latest. 15 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 4: Nathan and Karen. President Putin is demanding that Ukraine give 16 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 4: up the two regions that form the Donbas as a 17 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 4: precondition to a CEASEFIA. That would mean Ukraine enforces withdrawing 18 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 4: from nearly three and a half thousand square miles of territory. 19 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 4: Ukraine's lot of Misslenski, who's in Berlin today says he 20 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 4: won't do that. European leaders who hold a call with 21 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 4: President Trump later today say that any piece agreement must 22 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 4: respect international law and that international borders must not be 23 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 4: changed by force. As Friday's Trump poot in summit gets 24 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 4: ever closer, there are a few signs of agreement between 25 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,839 Speaker 4: the warring parties in London. I'm YOUW and pots Splinberg. 26 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,479 Speaker 2: Radio, all right you and thank you. We turned now 27 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 2: to the markets where stocks begin the day in record territory. Yesterday, 28 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 2: the S and P five hundred rows one point one percent, 29 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 2: while the tech heavy Nasdaq one hundred gained one point 30 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 2: three percent. The rally came after the latest consumer price 31 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 2: index report. Stoke bets that the FED is virtually certain 32 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 2: to resume cutting interest rates next month. Jay Berry is 33 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 2: JP Morgan's head of Global rates Strategy. 34 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 5: We know the FED as an asymmetric reaction function and 35 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 5: seems to be more concerned about labor market weakness than 36 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 5: inflation being above its target. And with the slowing we've 37 00:01:57,720 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 5: seen in private pyrole growth, it kind of gives the 38 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 5: Green like to go back and think about the FED 39 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 5: cutting in September, even with inflation very far away from 40 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 5: the fed's target. 41 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 2: JP Morgan's J Barry FED fun futures are pricing in 42 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 2: a ninety percent chance of a rate cut in September. 43 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 3: Well, while most traders think a quarter point cut is 44 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 3: all but a lock Karen. Treasury Secretary Scott Besson says 45 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 3: he's open to a fifty basis point cut. He spoke 46 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 3: with Fox Business after the CPI report. 47 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 6: If we'd had the original number, if FED could have 48 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:30,119 Speaker 6: been cutting in June July. So I think the real 49 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 6: thing now to think about is should we get a 50 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 6: fifty basis point ring cut in September to make up 51 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 6: for the delay and the lack of data. 52 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 3: As for the nominee to succeed FED Chair J. Powell, 53 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 3: Treasury Secretary Scott Besson says, there's a very wide net 54 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 3: being cast and the President Trump has a very open 55 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 3: mind on Nathan. 56 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 2: The White House pressure on the FED is not stopping there. 57 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 2: President Trump said he's considering a lawsuit against FED Chair J. 58 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 2: Powell over cost overruns at the Central Banks headquarters renovation. 59 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 2: The President made the comment on social media. We asked 60 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 2: White House Trade Advisor Peter Navarro whether the threat is serious. 61 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, yeah, I mean, look, you get your attention. 62 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 7: It's like, what is he doing there? 63 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 2: He's spending the taxpayer's money on a on a just 64 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 2: why not watching costs? 65 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 8: It's beautiful. 66 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 2: He contrasts with him the way Donald Trump does things 67 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 2: in the White House. He's undergoing a major renovation. He 68 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 2: watches every penny White how is Trade Advisor Peter Navarro 69 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 2: spoke with Joe Matthew on Bloomberg's balance of power. President 70 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 2: Trump has repeatedly called on Powell to resign, but he's 71 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 2: backed off threats to fire the chairman, while Secretary Bessen 72 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 2: to leads this search for his replacement. 73 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 3: Well Karen. Tariff revenue in this country did hit a 74 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 3: record last month, but it wasn't enough to prevent a 75 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 3: widening in the monthly budget deficit. Customs duties climbed to 76 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 3: twenty eight billion dollars in July, at two hundred and 77 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 3: seventy three percent surge over the same month last year, 78 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 3: but the monthly budget deficit came in at two hundred 79 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 3: ninety one billion, or ten percent more than the same 80 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 3: month a year before, after accounting for calendar differences. 81 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 2: A political fight in Texas could come to a head 82 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 2: this weekend in Nathan. Democratic lawmakers who left the state 83 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 2: to block a vote on a new congressional map now 84 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 2: say they're considering their options. ABC News is reporting they're 85 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 2: planning to return to Austin as soon as this weekend. 86 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 2: The Texas State House failed to reach a quorum again yesterday. 87 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 2: Speaker Dustin burrough says that's keeping lawmakers from addressing other 88 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 2: pressing issues. 89 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 6: We cannot take up the critical flood response legislation scheduled 90 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 6: for our floor. 91 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 2: Today, Texas Sounds Speaker Dustin Burroughs the Democrats could try 92 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 2: to demand that the legislature prioritize the flood response over redistricting, 93 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 2: but they hold little power in the GOP controlled House. 94 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 2: The special session ends on Friday. If lawmakers can't reach 95 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 2: a quorum by then, Governor Greg Abbott has said he'll 96 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 2: keep calling special sessions until the Democrats return well. 97 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 3: Karen Elon Musk has suffered a legal set back. A 98 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,679 Speaker 3: federal judge has ruled the world's richest man must face 99 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 3: claims by Open AI that his attacks on the startup 100 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 3: in court and the media amount to a quote years 101 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 3: long harassment campaign. This is the latest twist in a 102 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 3: court fight that's played out since last year, when Musk 103 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 3: accused open ai of abandoning its founding purpose as a 104 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 3: charity by accepting billions of dollars in funding from Microsoft 105 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 3: starting in twenty nineteen. The year after Musk left open 106 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 3: AI's board, he launched Xai, a competitor to open Ai 107 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty three. 108 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 2: Let's take a look at some stocks on the move 109 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,799 Speaker 2: this morning. Nathan shares of Kava plunging twenty three percent. 110 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 2: The fast casual Mediterranean chain trimmed its annual sales out 111 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 2: look after a sharp deceleration in the second quarter. Core 112 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 2: Weave shares are down nine percent. The New Jersey based 113 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 2: company delivered a disappointing earnings outlook, reflecting margin pressures from 114 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 2: a rapid AI data center expansion and Venture Global shares 115 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 2: are up five percent. The natural gas export one a 116 00:05:56,640 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 2: major arbitration case over oil giant Shell. Time now for 117 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 2: a look at some of the other stories making news 118 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 2: in New York and around the world, and for that 119 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 2: we're joined by Bloomberg's Michael Maher. Michael, good morning. 120 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 8: Good morning Karen. Some of the eight hundred National Guard 121 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 8: members deployed by the Trump administration to assist with law enforcement. 122 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 8: Arrived in Washington, d C. President Donald Trump called DC, 123 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 8: without substantiation, a lawless city. Muriel Bowser pledged work alongside 124 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 8: the federal officials mister Trump has tasked with overseeing the 125 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 8: capital city's law enforcement. 126 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 9: The executive order is pretty clear, and so is the law. 127 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 9: The President has the authority by virtue of the statute 128 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 9: to request services. 129 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 8: Mayor Bowser insists the police chief will remain in charge 130 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 8: of the department and its officers. The mayor also points 131 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 8: to official statistics showing violent crime down twenty six percent 132 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 8: since last year, now at a thirty year low. New 133 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 8: York City Mayor Eric Adams rejected President Trump's suggestion that 134 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 8: the federal government could take over the city's police department. 135 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 8: Adams says crime in New York City is under control. 136 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 8: We don't need anyone to come in and take over 137 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 8: our law enforcement apparatus. They have to find this police 138 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 8: department on the globe. Mayor Adam says crime in the 139 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 8: city is at the lowest this year outside of the 140 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 8: two years of the pandemic. Harvard University has signaled it 141 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 8: is willing to pay five hundred million dollars for workforce 142 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 8: training programs as part of a settlement with the White House. 143 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 8: A deal between Harvard and the Trump administration would bring 144 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 8: the university closer to ending a month's long standoff that 145 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 8: began over accusations that Harvard failed to confront campus anti semitism. 146 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 8: United Launch Alliance launched its first national security mission Tuesday 147 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 8: with the newly developed Vulcan rocket put satellites into high 148 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 8: orbits above the Earth. ULA launched two military satellites into space. 149 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 8: ULA is one of just three companies allowed to launched 150 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 8: the most difficult and most sensitive missions for the Defense Department. 151 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 8: Global News twenty four hours a day and whenever you 152 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 8: want it with Bloomberg News Now. Michael Barn, This is Bloomberg. Karen. 153 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 2: All right, Michael Barr, thank you time now for the 154 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 2: Bloomberg Sports Update. It's brought to you by Flushing Bank 155 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 2: and here's John stash Hour. 156 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 10: John, Good morning, Good morning, Karen. It was nine years 157 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 10: ago that the Mets in the second round draft in 158 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 10: Pete Alonso out of the University of Florida, and three 159 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:34,679 Speaker 10: years later a fifty three home run rookie season, still 160 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 10: the most ever. He's been slugging home runs ever since 161 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 10: at the point where Alonzo came to the plate, that 162 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 10: city field tied with Darryl Strawberry, a. 163 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 8: Ripple of anticipation. Who's through the ballpark? 164 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 4: With every Alonzo at bat, that put a cease of history. 165 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 9: And Pete drives won a deep right center field headed 166 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 9: back toward the wards. P Alonzo stands a lord for 167 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 9: poor bear, his home private Iceberg. Peter wants all the 168 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 9: most prolific. 169 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 8: Home run hittery in New York Met's history. 170 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 10: That's Gary Cohen on sn why home run number two 171 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 10: fifty three. He later hit another home run and a 172 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 10: thirteen to five Mets r out of Atlanta at the 173 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:17,839 Speaker 10: end of their seven game loses in striek. Alonzo then 174 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 10: reacted to his big. 175 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 9: Night as a kid, you don't really think that it's 176 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 9: in the realm of the possibility to be a franchise 177 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 9: home run leader. 178 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 8: He just don't. 179 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 4: You just want to get to the big leagues and 180 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:34,079 Speaker 4: give it your best. 181 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 10: Aaron Judge's sixth in Yankee history and moving closer to 182 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:40,959 Speaker 10: both the Jogi Barra and Joe DiMaggio at the stadium, 183 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 10: Judge Homard first inning, Anthony Volpi had a three run shot. 184 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 10: John Colo. Stanton Homern had a two run single. Yanks 185 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 10: all over the Twins nine to one. Team staying hot 186 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:53,359 Speaker 10: Milwaukee eleven wins in a row, and it was fourteen 187 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 10: to nothing over Pittsburgh. Eight straight for Seattle, a run 188 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 10: on the first inning, a one nothing win at Baltimore, 189 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 10: Cleveland on a Jose I'm here Asomer beat in Miami. 190 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,479 Speaker 10: The Guardians of won ten at the last twelve. Redstats 191 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 10: won fourteen to one at Euston. The Nationals lost eight 192 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 10: five at Kansas City. The NBA schedule is out opening 193 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 10: night October twenty first, with a double letter on NBC 194 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 10: nix O for the next night at the Garden against Cleveland. 195 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,559 Speaker 10: They'll also host the Cavs on Christmas. John stash Ewert, 196 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 10: Bloomberg Sports, Karen. 197 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:25,959 Speaker 2: Nathan stay with us more from Bloomberg Daybreak coming up 198 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 2: after this. 199 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: Coast to coast on Bloomberg Radio, nationwide on Sirius XM, 200 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: and around the world on Bloomberg dot Com and the 201 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Business app. This is Bloomberg Daybreak. 202 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:44,679 Speaker 3: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager. President Donald Trump is preparing 203 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 3: to head to his Alaska summit with Vladimir Putin with 204 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 3: the Russian leader, sounding confident that he is dominating on 205 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 3: the battlefield against Ukraine. But before the President speaks with 206 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 3: Putin on Friday, he's due to hold a call with 207 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 3: Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky and European leaders today. Ukrainian lawmaker 208 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 3: Kira Rutik is looking ahead to Friday. 209 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 7: The best outcome would be that President Trump wouldn't take 210 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 7: yet another public humidiation from Russian President Putin, and that 211 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 7: he will get finally annoyed and will impose sanctions that 212 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 7: he has promised. 213 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 3: Ukrainian parliament member Kier Rudik spoke on Bloomberg Surveillance this morning. 214 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 3: We're joined by Bloomberg News Chief Asia correspondent Rosalind Mathieson Roz. 215 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 10: Good morning. 216 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:34,839 Speaker 3: We know that Ukrainian President Zelenski has said his constitution 217 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 3: does not allow him to concede territory to Russia. What 218 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 3: can we expect when it comes to his call today 219 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:45,079 Speaker 3: with President Trump? Good morning, Good morning. 220 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 11: Well, it's interesting that Zelensky is actually seemingly going to 221 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 11: be in Germany alongside the German Chancellor for this call today, 222 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:55,319 Speaker 11: as you say, with the US President Donald Trump and 223 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:58,959 Speaker 11: Vice President Jdi vance and this is really the last 224 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 11: opportunity for these European leaders, alongside Zelensky's this is Germany, 225 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:07,319 Speaker 11: the uk Italy and more to really press Donald Trump 226 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,079 Speaker 11: to make the case before he goes into this meeting 227 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 11: with Vladimir Putin to not over commit or pre commit 228 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 11: to too many things in the absence of Ukraine at 229 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 11: that meeting, and saying that there needs to be a 230 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 11: very slow and careful move towards any agreements or understandings 231 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 11: around land that preliminarily, this just needs to be an 232 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 11: initial conversation to perhaps feel each other out face to 233 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 11: face and to get a stronger sense of where the 234 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 11: redlines are for Russia, but also for Donald Trump not 235 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 11: to rush in in that minute and agree to whatever 236 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:44,319 Speaker 11: Vladimir Putin may put on the table. And particularly the 237 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 11: concern there is that is there going to be an 238 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 11: early stage agreement between the two of them which requires 239 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 11: Ukraine indeed to see that land. 240 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 3: That mirror some of the rhetoric we've heard from President 241 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:59,079 Speaker 3: Trump in recent days. There's been sort of downplaying expectations 242 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 3: for the summit on front, saying that he wants to 243 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 3: feel out President Putin. Could it be that Europe and 244 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 3: the president could be on the same page heading into Friday. 245 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 11: Well, certainly Donald Trump probably is aware that given the 246 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 11: last time he met with Vladimir Putin, it didn't necessarily 247 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 11: end up being so successful for him. For Trump, that 248 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 11: he maybe needs to be a bit more careful going 249 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 11: into this conversation. And he's shown some frustration with Vladimir 250 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 11: Putin in recent weeks, said that despite all their phone 251 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 11: calls and their conversations, that he felt in a way 252 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 11: that he was getting played a bit by Putin dragging 253 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 11: the chain on agreeing to a ceasefire. But that's one thing. 254 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 11: It's very different for the two of them to be 255 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 11: sitting down together and in the minute, you know, Vladimir 256 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 11: Putin is quite an astute operator, and who knows how 257 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 11: that meeting might go. And that again is the concern, 258 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 11: and that is why you're seeing these phone calls today 259 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 11: that yes, Donald Trump is casting this now as more 260 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 11: of a feeling out exercise, but there is still risk 261 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 11: in the minute that he does go ahead and agree 262 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 11: to things that Ukraine says that they cannot accept. 263 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 3: Some of that concern has been sounded out, with President 264 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 3: Zelenski even saying that Russia has made some surprise advances 265 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 3: on the ground in recent days and pushing deeper into 266 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 3: Ukrainian territory. How could that set up what we get 267 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 3: on Friday? What do we know about the situation on 268 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 3: the ground in eastern Ukraine at this moment. 269 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 11: Well, that's right, Zelensky is casting. This is Russia trying 270 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 11: to get into a positive position, the most advantageous position 271 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 11: for itself, going into this meeting and basically saying to 272 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 11: Donald Trump, this is Russia, you know, saying to Donald Trump, well, 273 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 11: we'd have this territory anyway, so you may as well 274 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 11: hand it over to us, rather than having us fight 275 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 11: for it for a few more months and getting there. 276 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 11: And certainly Russia has been making some gains on the 277 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 11: ground again, this is primarily in the Dombas region, and 278 00:14:57,040 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 11: you know, pushing forward, but not pushing forward massive. It's 279 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 11: been a real grinding wall now for quite some time. 280 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 11: They are making pockets of advances and certainly they seem 281 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 11: to have the advantage, but they're not gaining large amounts 282 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 11: of territory at Ukraine obviously is having very little success 283 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 11: pushing them back. 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