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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentle you want experience during your football season,

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Speaker 1: We'll buckle up, sweet cheeks. We've got all the experience

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Speaker 1: in the world. This is I want your flex with

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Speaker 1: Dan Bayer and Mike Harmon. Mike and Dan break down

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Speaker 1: everything you need to set your lineups, from position rankings

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Speaker 1: to starts and sits. The guys help you make those

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Speaker 1: hard decisions. And now let's get your flex on. Here's

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Speaker 1: Dan Bayer and Mike Harmon.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in to I want your flecks and mic up

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Speaker 2: at Swallendome. You's gonna find me at Dan byer on

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Speaker 2: box getting set for a week fourteen slighte with the

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Speaker 2: fifteen games. Cardinals and Commanders are on buy, so you

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Speaker 2: don't have to worry about those teams. But we'll worry

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Speaker 2: about the other thirty mic and we'll dive into those teams.

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Speaker 2: But I think we need to start today at a

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Speaker 2: point that I think every fantasy player that plays in

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Speaker 2: a league has this dilemma, and it's riding the hot

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Speaker 2: hand because the hot hand doesn't always stay hot. I

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Speaker 2: think like back in the day, you go back to

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Speaker 2: the Marshall Falk days, Priest Holmes, the uh heck, even

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Speaker 2: the Emmett Smith days way back when you were playing

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Speaker 2: your running back Barry Sanders. Barry Sanders could give me

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Speaker 2: a stinker now and then. But you know, Marshall Falk,

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Speaker 2: Priest Holmes, you're playing those guys. It's like an automatic

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Speaker 2: twenty five.

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Speaker 3: Point sure, And Barry Sanders would drive you nuts in

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Speaker 3: game if you were actually sitting and watching the Lions.

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Speaker 3: One negative one negative seven zero zero three seventy five

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, And you're like, all right, Okay, I guess

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Speaker 2: I can't be too mad at what he just did

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Speaker 2: to me for the first two and a half quarters.

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Speaker 2: But I do think that now in the NFL because

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Speaker 2: we don't see that at the running back position. Christian

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Speaker 2: McCaffrey is the closest that we've seen to it, and

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Speaker 2: it's basically two as well, because of his touchdown streak

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Speaker 2: that he had. We're not seeing the hot streaks, those

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Speaker 2: those those great, great big numbers from the running back position.

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Speaker 2: We're starting to see them with some wide receivers. And

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Speaker 2: maybe it's because the the game, you know, changed, and

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Speaker 2: Tyreek Hill is the name that that pops in first

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Speaker 2: and foremost in my mind. But I'll tell you what

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Speaker 2: I have a really big problem with, and that's that's

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Speaker 2: the topic we're starting here, is I do think hot

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Speaker 2: streaks come to an end, and I'm trying to guess

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Speaker 2: in trying to figure out, all right, when when do

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Speaker 2: I not play the guy that is on a hot

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Speaker 2: streak if I've got that, you know, like at some point,

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Speaker 2: you know, aj Brown had his one hundred yard game

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Speaker 2: streak this, you know, earlier this season, and was was

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Speaker 2: end at some point. And and so that's the part now,

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Speaker 2: because we're in winning time where playoff spots are on

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Speaker 2: the line, playoffs are going to be starting, I try

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Speaker 2: to figure out a way to balance you know, the hotness,

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Speaker 2: the the hot streaks and figuring out if a guy

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Speaker 2: is just getting his workload. It's one of the toughest

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Speaker 2: things that I end up battling in my mind when

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure out my lineups.

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Speaker 3: Well, no, and that's just it, right. It's the trust

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Speaker 3: longevity sample sizes, cause look, unless you're playing in a

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Speaker 3: Best Ball league, it's week to week, so you're looking

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Speaker 3: at individual matchups. How good is that cornerback in coverage

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Speaker 3: how good is this defense in terms of limiting the

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Speaker 3: painted grass, because I don't care how many yards they

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Speaker 3: give up.

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Speaker 4: Right, it's the old adage.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, pile up your receptions, but you still

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Speaker 3: need to score touchdowns to win on the field and

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Speaker 3: certainly in your fantasy games as well. You know, say

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Speaker 3: nothing for those twelve reception forty yard efforts we've seen.

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Speaker 4: From some running backs in the best.

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Speaker 3: But you know, to your point about AJ Brown, as

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Speaker 3: hot as he was for that stretch over the last

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Speaker 3: five weeks, he ranks twenty ninth. Right, you have a

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Speaker 3: and again fantasypros dot Com scoring for that. But you've

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Speaker 3: got so many other guys who've been routinely more productive

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Speaker 4: Look, I haven't been able to catch a cold in that.

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Speaker 3: In terms of Daniel you want to talk about cold,

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Speaker 3: soares I'm walking around littered with him and picking running

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Speaker 3: whatever else, which more and more teams are going away

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Speaker 3: from because we do the dopey shotgun. Let's hand the

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Speaker 3: in the backfield as well. But you know, writing writing

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Speaker 3: has had massive letdown weeks, and even the one week

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Speaker 3: he didn't score, he was apologetic about it. Yeah, I stunk,

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Speaker 3: had a pretty good game, but you know, didn't find

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Speaker 3: the end zone, and that streak ended consistency. Being king

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Speaker 3: quarterback position, we've seen a little more stability, so you

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Speaker 3: feel a little more confident of doing the old all right,

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Speaker 3: I don't even have to touch that kind of like

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Speaker 3: we used to do in our golf leagues back in

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Speaker 3: the day, Dan, when I was running things at Yahoo,

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Speaker 3: we had to put in the rule that you could

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Speaker 3: only use tiger Woods so much like we called it

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Speaker 3: the tiger Woods rule there, and it was the Dale

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Speaker 3: Earnhardt Senior rule for auto racing. You only got to

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Speaker 3: use him nine in the first half. So at least

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Speaker 3: half the time he's got to be out or you

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Speaker 3: don't occrue any points at People would still leave him

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Speaker 3: there because they liked the look of him being on

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Speaker 3: their roster. But you know, at least the quarterback position,

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Speaker 3: we have some stability, except for old father in coming

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Speaker 2: I you know, I think that's basically there. There's nothing

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Speaker 2: one point during the season he had a span of

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Speaker 2: six one hundred yard games over seven contests. So he's

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Speaker 2: getting double digit receptions in some of those games. If

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Speaker 2: it's PPR only scored a couple of touchdowns three touchdowns

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Speaker 2: And so now you're saying to yourself, Okay, if you've

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Speaker 2: going to be in the double digits. Well, what about

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Speaker 2: those twelve and thirteen reception games come down to four

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Speaker 2: He ends up having two catches for forty nine yards.

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Speaker 2: Luckily for you know, owners of Amarra gets into the

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Speaker 2: benching him, you know, Like I'm just I'm gonna have

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Speaker 2: wonder if I want my guys on a bit of

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Speaker 2: it's gonna show up. Evan Ingram's a perfect example. Had

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Speaker 2: not a touchdown all season long. I didn't acquire a

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Speaker 2: and I said he's gonna score at some point. There's

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Speaker 2: a touchdown. What happens on Monday Night against the Bengals

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Speaker 2: finally gets into the end zone. I felt so vindicated

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Speaker 2: now his value has grown more. But I also thought

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Speaker 2: the thing that I should you know, the advice that

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Speaker 2: enough where they have produced previously, because at some point

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that that play pays off. And look,

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Speaker 3: he's had opportunity, not red zone opportunity.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, go on opportunity.

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Speaker 3: But if you've got a guy who's seeing six targets

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Speaker 3: fight about that, like because it's simplified, but that's we're

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Speaker 3: not going to go game by game quality. Like I

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Speaker 3: have six targets per game, and that's what you were

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Speaker 3: averaging with Ingram. The law of average is said, the

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Speaker 3: you're still seeing six targets. It's a matter of what

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Speaker 3: Otherwise you're rolling the dice with most of these guys

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Speaker 3: that you're getting a goal line, red zone opportunity anyway,

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Speaker 3: because the production week to week has been so varied

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Speaker 3: across the position, the highs and lows across the web.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you look over these last five weeks. Jake

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Speaker 3: Ferguson is your high scorer. He's got two games below

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Speaker 3: four points in them.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 3: Hockinson is second. He had a bye week six point

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Speaker 3: point four in week ten. Again, fantasypros dot Com and

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Speaker 3: their scoring system here, you know, talking standards we can play.

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Speaker 3: Take that out to the PPR world and yes, then

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Speaker 3: it changes some. So we get Trey McBride would be

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Speaker 3: your most valuable with a five point two and a

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Speaker 3: Hockinson with the bye week his second, well, he had

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Speaker 3: that thirty point blowout performance in week ten, otherwise thirteen

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Speaker 3: at the distinction and rolling down there's like there's no

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Speaker 3: level of consistency, Like the most consistent guy has been

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Speaker 3: in Djoku. Yeah, like week thirteen a three point seven performance,

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Speaker 4: Sure each week.

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Speaker 2: Laporta of the huge game in week thirteen, but there

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Speaker 2: was even a dip with him, right, and he went

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Speaker 3: Up yeah bye week eight point six point eight points,

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Speaker 3: and then the last two weeks back on seventeen point

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Speaker 3: seven and twenty nine. But it feeds into your point,

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Speaker 3: trends like what's the offense doing, how's it focusing and filtering?

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Speaker 3: And at this point we've got mostly backup quarterbacks for

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Speaker 2: say we're gonna get in a shootout, Mike, but I

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Speaker 2: think that this is good medicine for Camp the city

436
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Speaker 2: of having Buffalo come in and so I like, I

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Speaker 2: like your Chiefs if you can play him. Another hasn't

438
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Speaker 2: been a huge, huge boom with them, but I think

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Speaker 2: we're gonna get a good one in Kansas City on

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Speaker 2: Sunday afternoon.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, forty seven is the total. As you and I

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Speaker 3: sit and record this episode, Dan, looking at the Chiefs,

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Speaker 3: the opportunity, you're trying to pick the needle in the

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Speaker 3: in the haystack as far as the wide outs go.

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Speaker 3: Next to Travis Kelce or she Rice is a WR

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Speaker 3: three with upside?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but is it? Is it necessarily a go?

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Speaker 3: I can't bank on it right because I can't bank

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Speaker 3: on him finding the end zone.

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Speaker 2: No, but Daily Fantasy could be an option.

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Speaker 3: No, absolute hundred percent and then Pa Checko, you know,

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Speaker 3: if he can take a full workload, then yeah, he's

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Speaker 3: He's been fantastic. The run game has been been better

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Speaker 3: at and Mahomes against Buffalo and the defense trying to

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Speaker 3: find its way. I don't know what they would have

456
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Speaker 3: figured out during the bye week, but it came at

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Speaker 3: a good time for them, you know, wondering if you

458
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Speaker 3: know Josh Allen who's done some really good things. Focus

459
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Speaker 3: people have focused on the turnovers, and rightly so, some

460
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Speaker 3: his faults, some not some basically the equivalent of us saying, hey,

461
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Speaker 3: punt check, you know you have to be past that

462
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Speaker 3: edge of the buick to receive my punt throw. You

463
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Speaker 3: know that kind of thing. You know, some of the metrics.

464
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Speaker 3: He's the MVP of the league based on what he's

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Speaker 3: done for this squad. So it's really just an interesting

466
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Speaker 3: continuum that that he is on week to week. I

467
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Speaker 3: dare say, I think they come out and score some

468
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Speaker 3: points like that's a that one. I think we get

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Speaker 3: ourselves a little bit of a shootout here.

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Speaker 2: I wish we could say the same for Thursday night.

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Speaker 2: That's where we will end this podcast. No Hawkeyes patron

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Speaker 2: its Steelers color scheme. The same for the Steelers in

473
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Speaker 2: the Iowa Hawk. Guys, what do we got because we

474
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Speaker 2: don't have Kenny Pickett out with his ankle injury, so

475
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Speaker 2: Trubisky gets the start. Do you like a little nause

476
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 2: Harris h Jalen Warren? What are we looking at for

477
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Speaker 2: Thursday night? Mike?

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Speaker 4: They are injury back end number Two's right?

479
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Speaker 3: I mean my week only has two teams, so we're

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Speaker 3: not really impacted much there. So now it becomes all

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Speaker 3: right the injury updates. If you don't get spears off

482
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Speaker 3: waivers and Henry can't go, then yes, maybe one of

483
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Speaker 3: these Steelers. Of course it's a Thursday night, so it's

484
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Speaker 3: an early decision point as well. Think for the Steelers

485
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Speaker 3: side of things, I'll start Friarmouth.

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Speaker 4: Okay, right, tight end position, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Target count should be up beyond that. No, thanks, I'll

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Speaker 3: start the defense.

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Speaker 2: I think I'm I have a team defense as well.

490
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Speaker 2: In Witzburg let me down against the Cardinals, but you

491
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Speaker 2: were let down if you played any Steeler.

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Speaker 4: What a letdown effort that was?

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Speaker 3: Like, That's not something you can often say about a

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Speaker 3: Pittsburgh you know, Mike Tomlin led squad. That was just

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Speaker 3: a poor effort all around. And I know they had

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Speaker 3: the weather delays and all of that stuff.

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Speaker 4: Shouldn't that have favorite Pittsburgh doing all that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Instead, James Connor comes back and you know, he

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Speaker 3: reminds them of what he once was.

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Speaker 2: One hundred yeah, two scores. And Trey McBride, a guy

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Speaker 2: that you know we've talked about a bunch here coming

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Speaker 2: through as well, but he had nothing for Pittsburgh. I

503
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 2: think there was a lot of a lot of excitement

504
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 2: on the Jalen Warren train, but that even slowed to

505
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Speaker 2: a bit of a halt. Just nine carries, fifty nine

506
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Speaker 2: yards on those nine carries. But yeah, just a Steelers

507
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Speaker 2: team that committing a lot of penalties. And now you

508
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Speaker 2: don't have your starting quarterback. So that's a tough one.

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Speaker 3: And now we'll go on the other side, Dan, if

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Speaker 3: you want, yes, do it, the Patriots do it. It's

511
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Speaker 3: Ezekiel Elliott, right because at least as we record this,

512
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Speaker 3: the presumption is that Stevenson's not rallying on a short week.

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Speaker 3: Maybe he does, but you know, Elliott at least running

514
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Speaker 3: the football, I would expect him to see twelve to

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00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 3: fifteen touches showed a little bit of burst, which is

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Speaker 3: shocking to say against the Chargers in a game that

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Speaker 3: they scored zero points.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I can't recommend anyone.

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Speaker 4: It's so hard, right, it's like all right daily for

520
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Speaker 4: a dollar.

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Speaker 2: And again it's just the fact, Mike of I will

522
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Speaker 2: usually tell you to play a guy just so you

523
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Speaker 2: can watch the game, but I just can't do it

524
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 2: this week. I think I would be disingenuous in doing so.

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Speaker 2: I think that you can avoid this game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's Look the over under. I've seen it

527
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Speaker 3: as low as twenty nine and a half. I'm staring

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Speaker 3: at Bovada as we record this and it's at thirty

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Speaker 3: and a half. Steelers favored by six.

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Speaker 4: That's a lot of points.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I think like that's like when we were looking

532
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Speaker 3: at all those Iowa spreads and going and over unders

533
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,679
Speaker 3: and going, nah, there's no way they're scoring.

534
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Speaker 4: Like even this.

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Speaker 3: Past week, you know, they said ninety nine percent of

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Speaker 3: the money for Iowa versus Michigan first half at point

537
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Speaker 3: five points was on the under and they cashed.

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00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 2: They all cased crazy.

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Speaker 3: I think in this game we might get much of

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Speaker 3: the same. Man, I'm running for the punters.

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Speaker 2: I I you know, we had we had twenty years

542
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Speaker 2: where we had to watch like the Patriots and Steelers

543
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Speaker 2: play in divisional playoff games or playoff or AFC championship games.

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Speaker 2: And I really hated both teams. I hated both teams

545
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 2: and they were good. So for me to have any

546
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 2: interest in this when they're bad, it's going to be

547
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 2: a very, very tough sell. I'll watch it, but I

548
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:58,959
Speaker 2: just don't recommend anyone to play it.

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00:28:59,040 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 3: I celebrate all to seventy two. They make fun of

551
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 3: me on the evening show with Smith and Frostville on

552
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 3: the executive chair. It's like, no, you don't. All you

553
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 3: do is bad moth, and I'm like, no, no. I still

554
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 3: celebrate them. But on the continuum there are there are

555
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 3: some that are worse. It doesn't mean I don't love them.

556
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 3: I just love them less. So they're ranked to seventy

557
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 3: to seventy one and two seventy two.

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Speaker 2: And that's that's this one. You just blow out the

559
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 2: candles and move on. That's what you can do with

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00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 2: Thursday night.

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Speaker 3: I think I'm just gonna order a giant bucket of

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Speaker 3: wings and while I sit in the studio I'll just eat.

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Speaker 4: The good news my feelings.

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Speaker 2: The good news is the next time you hear us

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Speaker 2: and I want your flex, that game will be in

566
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Speaker 2: our rear view mirror. Yeah, buddy, there is no episode

567
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 2: on Thursday. There will be new episodes on Friday with

568
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Speaker 2: Harmon's rankings and his hot plays and cold source. I

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Speaker 2: do want to give our executive producer Patrick social media wise,

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Speaker 2: Patrick Sweeka, Where can people follow you if they want

571
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Speaker 2: to follow you on various platforms of social media?

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00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 5: Well, Dan and Mike on Twitter or actually x formally

573
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Speaker 5: known as Twitter. My Twitter handle is actually my name,

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Speaker 5: Patrick Sweeka, but if you needed the at, it is

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Speaker 5: actually at sweaky P and as s w e e

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Speaker 5: k y P.

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Speaker 4: There is sweaky P.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, definitely. No, that's sweek as the last name. So

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Speaker 5: everybody's done a variant of my last name. So I'm

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Speaker 5: like sweaky pe. I don't know, it's it's unique. No

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Speaker 5: one has.

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Speaker 2: It, and uh, he doesn't follow me, so that's that's great.

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Speaker 2: It's all right. I didn't. I didn't realize that Patrick

584
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Speaker 2: was on Twitter either.

585
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Speaker 5: So I forgot I was until you just reminded me.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 4: Now, there you go. That means there's a lot of

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Speaker 4: value add on that account. Poe go At.

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Speaker 2: The last time you tweeted was August. But if you

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Speaker 2: wanted to find him and hit him up, that's where

591
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 2: you can get Patrick and all of it's good stuff.

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Speaker 2: We appreciate the work this week, and you'll be back

593
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Speaker 2: with us on the pod that launches Friday. Thanks, Patrick,

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00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 2: appreciate it.

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00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 5: Man of course, of course, pleasure to be here.

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00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 2: So for Patrick SWEEKA and Mike Carmen, any last words, Mike.

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Speaker 4: What are you drinking for that?

598
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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what for a guy that doesn't drink

599
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 2: and the the wife is going to be out of

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Speaker 2: town for the first overnight since we had our baby boy,

601
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Speaker 2: so he's now two and a half. I am going

602
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Speaker 2: to be solo, yes and a half years, the solo

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Speaker 2: for one overnight, me and him. Yeah, the first time

604
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Speaker 2: it's been that long. I don't know how she's going

605
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Speaker 2: to handle it. I hope I can keep everything in

606
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Speaker 2: one piece. But yeah, it's gonna be a guy's you know,

607
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Speaker 2: a guy's vaca here on Yeah, yeah, with mom out

608
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Speaker 2: of town.

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Speaker 4: You got that for two and a half years. I

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Speaker 4: think I was at like eight weeks.

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Speaker 2: Maybe that was at a different time, you know. It's

612
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Speaker 2: just that's the way it is. But yeah, so who knows.

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Speaker 2: Maybe I'll start drinking after that. But we're gonna have some.

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Speaker 4: Fun giant milkshakes for everybody.

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Speaker 2: Yeah there, It is awesome, all right. So for my

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Speaker 2: Carmin and Patrick Sweeta, I'm dan Byer. Pray for me

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Speaker 2: and I can't wait to talk to you next time here.

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Speaker 2: And I want to reflex