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Speaker 1: old woman and her boyfriend of three years attended his

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Speaker 1: parents anniversary party, where he unexpectedly proposed in front of

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Speaker 1: his family and friends, and despite earlier conversations where she

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Speaker 1: had expressed that she wasn't ready for that, he did

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Speaker 1: it anyway. At the moment of the public proposal, she

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Speaker 1: felt pressured and said yes to avoid embarrassing him in

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Speaker 1: that she couldn't yet accept. Later, in private, she told

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Speaker 1: because she wasn't ready, and he responded by saying that

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Speaker 1: she embarrassed him by saying yes and then changing her mind.

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Speaker 1: She said that she never intended to hurt him and

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Speaker 1: only accepted publicly to spare the moment, but acknowledge the

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Speaker 1: situation has now become more complicated, and of course people

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Speaker 1: online are going both ways on this. I think it

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Speaker 1: would have been more embarrassing to say no in front

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Speaker 1: of all of these people. I mean, this was his

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Speaker 1: First of all, not the place you don't I'm not

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Speaker 1: the place to propose. But second of all, it would

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Speaker 1: have been more embarrassing. I think if she had said

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Speaker 1: no in front of his parents and all these other people. Instead,

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Speaker 1: it was okay, yeah, now he has to walk it

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Speaker 1: back now because but she also told him that she

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Speaker 1: didn't want to be engaged to him. So rather than

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Speaker 1: stay engaged to this man and marry him and she's

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Speaker 1: not ready, she just went back later and said, look,

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Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't want to do this in front

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Speaker 1: of everybody, but I did tell you I wasn't ready,

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Speaker 1: right now, and so go tell your parents that it

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Speaker 1: was a little premature. And then I thought about it,

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Speaker 1: and I want to take a step back. That to

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Speaker 1: me is a whole lot kinder yes than just saying

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Speaker 1: but if you say no in front of everybody that

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Speaker 1: that probably is the end of the relationship. I don't

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Speaker 2: And that's embarrassment in like real time. That's four k

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Speaker 2: right there in front of your whole family. Off, get up,

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Speaker 2: off your knee, looks at it. No, like she did

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Speaker 2: you a favor. Actually a boy saying yes and then

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Speaker 2: telling you later, So she's not wrong.

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Speaker 1: But I want to know from you, guys, eight five, five, five, nine,

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Speaker 1: one one oh three five would you rather would you

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Speaker 1: rather say yes and just get out of the sort

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Speaker 1: then later go back and figure it out, or would

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Speaker 1: you rather just say because I've again, you see it

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Speaker 1: it at the sporting events. I think those are stage.

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Speaker 1: But you see it where people propose and the person

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Speaker 1: life crushing rejection, public rejection, Like I don't know that

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Speaker 1: you can get over that.

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Speaker 3: Here's what I will say about this situation, though there

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Speaker 3: should be no situation in my opinion, just me where

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Speaker 3: already spoken about it totally. I really do feel like

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Speaker 1: When here comes to my man batching segment, I think

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Speaker 1: that it was a power trip on his part. He

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Speaker 1: She said, I am not ready, and he said, no,

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Speaker 1: because it's like a power thing. It's like, but we

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Speaker 4: It was very much planned because he knew, like, if

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Speaker 4: it to the next level, I know, but like I'm

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Kyla, right and.

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Speaker 1: Check your condom. We'll go far into the future with

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Speaker 1: the story. Guy's poking holes and stuff. Man, Yeah, this

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Speaker 1: something like that. So, but this was like in the salads,

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Speaker 1: I'm maybe like nine, and I'm watching this guy and

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Speaker 1: he's sweating bullets. She has no idea, She's just eating

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Speaker 1: and at one point I said to my dad, I go, hey,

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Speaker 1: but you don't ever ask that question unless you already

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Speaker 1: but it's not actually the first time it's It shouldn't

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Speaker 1: be the first time it's being discussed. It should not

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Speaker 1: on one knee. But I never as a little kid, I

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Speaker 1: I had a pretty good idea what your mom was

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Speaker 1: going to say before I asked, Like, it's kind of

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Speaker 1: don't you kind of do that? I mean, I guess

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Speaker 1: it's a guy. You kind of do the thing where

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Speaker 1: you're like, what would you say if I how would

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Speaker 1: you feel about? Like, like what are your thoughts on?

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Speaker 1: Like basically you just make it so that when you

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Speaker 1: you know the answer is yes, right, yeah, because you

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Speaker 1: don't because nobody wants to get rejected no, and.

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Speaker 3: Like you should, like you should know what people are

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Speaker 3: looking for, right.

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Speaker 1: Anthony, you're saying the same thing. Man, it is this

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Speaker 1: guy got what's coming to him? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, you kind of you hit it on the head.

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Speaker 5: It was at his parents anniversary. It was a power

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Speaker 5: trip thing. He wanted to be in front of people.

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Speaker 5: And I missed who said it. It might have been Kaylin.

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Speaker 5: You don't go into that if you don't know what

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Speaker 5: the answer is going to be. Right, if you had

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Speaker 5: a conversation like I proposed to my now wife, I

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Speaker 5: knew what that answer was going to be, and I

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Speaker 5: still did it in private because I knew she didn't

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Speaker 2: Mmmm.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's another thing. Is you got to be with

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Speaker 1: somebody who wants the production, you know, like some I

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Speaker 1: think there are people I think you would know if

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Speaker 1: your partner like this is the whole thing. He should

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Speaker 1: have just known none. He didn't listen to her on

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Speaker 1: any of this, and so I wouldn't be surprised if

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Speaker 1: she bails. But it sounds like she's not bailing. It

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Speaker 1: sounds like she just wants to take a step back.

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Speaker 1: She didn't dump him, she didn't leave the relationship. I

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Speaker 1: think she just said, hey, man, you got to go

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Speaker 1: undo everything you just did, right.

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Speaker 5: Because now it's either we have to commit to a

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Speaker 5: year's long engagement until they're actually ready to tie the

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Speaker 5: knot and then that looks bad. Or he could have

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Speaker 5: listened in the first place, and, like you said, has

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Speaker 5: to go back and say like, hey, we're we're going

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Speaker 5: to reevaluate some things. We're not over, but it's just

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Speaker 5: not happening right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, which I think you can move past that.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Anthony, have a good day.

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Speaker 5: Yeah you too, well, you guy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks. Man, if I did something, my parents would

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Speaker 1: tell him me, ah, so we're not actually engaged because

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Speaker 1: like she didn't want that, and my parents would be like,

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Speaker 1: what did you talk to you about it for? Like

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Speaker 1: why did you do that? Then my parents would it

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Speaker 1: an idiot, like that's not how this works, dude, Like

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Speaker 1: why did you do it? Like that? But I also

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Speaker 1: up in there. You could make it, you could make

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Speaker 1: it a little more romantic than it was. Hey, he

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Speaker 1: got caught up in the moment. He was just so

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Speaker 1: excited to get the ring and whatever, and we have

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Speaker 1: talked about it, but we're just not quite there yet.

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Speaker 1: I think anybody in a relationship or any period of

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Speaker 1: time would respect that. Yes, just like, Okay, so you

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Speaker 1: weren't quite ready, you got excited, You're not gonna break up.

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Speaker 1: You're just gonna like take a step back rather than

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Speaker 1: let that weigh over you. Because that's a horrible way

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Speaker 1: to start to start an engagement. And the process where

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Speaker 1: the girl didn't even want to do it. Yeah, as

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Speaker 1: I'm watching it, As I'm watching Kiki do all this

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Speaker 1: wedding planning and stuff like, if you weren't elated with

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Speaker 1: the process, this would be one hundred times worse.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and if you messed up my first proposal in

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Speaker 2: any way, shape or form, I'm out the door, like, bro, yeah, Kaitlin, like,

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Speaker 2: I don't want now you're gonna do a redo of this.

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Speaker 2: You've already gotten down. You're looking goofy on the floor.

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Speaker 2: Your family got photos.

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Speaker 1: And videos of this. You didn't mess this whole experience

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Speaker 1: up for me. Yeah, we may have to. We'd have

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Speaker 1: to pretend that was it, Like, OK, some day, some

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Speaker 1: day I'll tell you, like in six months or a year,

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Speaker 1: just hand me the ring back and we'll pretend like

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Speaker 1: that happened and that was it, Like, because we can't

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Speaker 1: do this again, redo it. It's weird, right exactly, Hey,

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Speaker 1: Lucas going on? Look it? So you are you moving

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Speaker 1: someone right now? What are you doing? Are you? Are

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Speaker 6: No, I'm not work right now?

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Speaker 1: Well I knew I just like I can hear that.

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Speaker 1: I like a guy who can work. And together you're

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Speaker 1: putting what together?

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Speaker 6: All the chiefs Minima Takatas Mussy his oldest.

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Speaker 1: Oh, bring some of those over here. I need some

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Speaker 1: breakfast anyway, So what do you get? The final say

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Speaker 1: on this? The dude proposes to his girlfriend in front

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Speaker 6: Well, in my opinions, first of all, you you too

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Speaker 1: He took the parents spotlight. That's another of all. He

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Speaker 6: So basically, you know, she in my opinion, she got

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Speaker 1: No choice, no choice.

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Speaker 6: You gotta say yes, you know, and to make you

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Speaker 6: continue the party with the good moods.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you gotta keep party. You gotta keep partying

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Speaker 6: So you know, like imagine she's gonna say no, like

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Speaker 1: The party is. It's like he knew this, Like the

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Speaker 1: a yes, it was Lucas, I gotta go have a

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Speaker 1: good day. Man, Thank you have a good day at work. Yeah? No,

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Speaker 1: But but why would you why would you even want that?

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Speaker 1: to trap her. Yeah, it's go check the condoms man. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is that kind of guy, the kind of guy

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Speaker 1: you gotta worry about. Man, the lifetime movie about women

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Speaker 1: like this guy. You know, they should make more lifetime

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Speaker 1: movies about guys like this guy. Let's do follow me,

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Speaker 1: Let's do blogs and waiting by the phone More Fred

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Speaker 1: Show next right here,