1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody. Wednesday edition of Clay and Buck kicks off. 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: Now a lot to talk to you about. Thanks for 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:10,319 Speaker 1: joining us here. We've got we got more on this 4 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: whole signal chat thing. Will work you through some of this. 5 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: I think increasingly clear that they're making a mountain out 6 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 1: of a molehill a tempest than a teapot. It's one 7 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: thing to say, Okay, it's not great, we got to 8 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: fix this. It's another thing to say, oh my gosh, 9 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: how could we ever ever trust these people ever again? 10 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:35,279 Speaker 1: That they just hate Trump and everybody who works for them, 11 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: So we have to keep that in mind. We will 12 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: discuss though the latest details that more chat isn't interesting. 13 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 1: Claim a day ago Jeffrey Goldberg is, oh, I don't 14 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 1: know if I can release this stuff, it's so sensitive. 15 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: And then he releases it today. What a big surprise, 16 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: almost like this is all a political hit and not 17 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: really having anything to do with national security, which I 18 00:00:56,440 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: will also point out was not harmed in this. I 19 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: talked to you yesterday about the classification system and how 20 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:06,479 Speaker 1: it is all built upon perceived possible harm like Top 21 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 1: Secret would be grave, grave damage to US national security interests. 22 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:16,119 Speaker 1: Confidential is moderate damage to US national security interests. It's 23 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: an imprecise thing. This is more art than science in 24 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: a lot of ways. But well, we'll give you the 25 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: details on this, because I don't want your angry neighbor 26 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: when you're trimming the hedges or whatever or mowing the 27 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 1: law and to be able to shadow. Did you see 28 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: you about the signal chat? And you're like, no, I 29 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 1: didn't see. We'll tell you about it so you'll know. Also, 30 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 1: we are enjoying the spectacular downfall of Disney with more 31 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: from the snow White megaflop that is underway right now. 32 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: The IMDb ratings, the finger pointing has begun Clay about 33 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: who is to blame for this thing to be such 34 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: a mess, So that is to be something that we 35 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: will dive into. And then we've got Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett 36 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: play I'm sure you saw this after calling Governor Abbott 37 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: hot wheels. Governor Abbot, who is wheelchair bound because of 38 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: a tragic accident, has been for I don't know fifty years, 39 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: forty years now. She says that she was not referring 40 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: to him in a wheelchair, that that had nothing to 41 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 1: do with it. 42 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 2: That's first of all, I admire the blatant lie because 43 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 2: it's so ridiculous. 44 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: What is her exploit? Have any I didn't even see this? 45 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 2: What is her explanation for what she was referring to 46 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 2: if she wasn't referring to him being in a wheelchair? 47 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: Do you want me to tell you now? Or should 48 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 1: we keep our audience on the edge of their seats 49 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 1: and get you to see genuinely have no idea. I'm 50 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 1: curious what the spin is here. I have not seen this. 51 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: I think you'll have to stay with us to the 52 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 1: bottom of the hour, and I will tell you what. 53 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: It's all a good tease. I'm not going to be 54 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 1: able to leave, you know. I want you guys to 55 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: stay with us here. Let's start with this. We had 56 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: the DNI Telci Gabbard, and I keep telling you this 57 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: because it's true. The best thing she can do is 58 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: to fix the eye of the intelligence community to the 59 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: best of her ability and then come forward and say 60 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: that there should no longer be a DNI because they 61 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: shouldn't because it's absurd. But that's not policy's fault. She's 62 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: doing a great job. She spoke this morning about the 63 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 1: signal chat situation, and here is what she said, play 64 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: cup one. 65 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 3: It was a mistake that a reporter was inadvertently added 66 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 3: to a signal chat with high level national security principles 67 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 3: having a policy discussion about imminent strikes against the Huthis 68 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 3: and the effects of the strike. National Security Advisor has 69 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 3: taken full responsibility for this, and the National Security Council 70 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 3: is conducting an in depth review along with technical experts 71 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 3: working to determine how this reporter was inadvertently added to 72 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 3: this chat. The conversation was candid and sensitive, but as 73 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 3: the president National Security Advisor stated, no classified information was shared. 74 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 3: There were no sources, methods, locations, or war plans that 75 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 3: were shared. This was a standard update to the National 76 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 3: Security Cabinet that was provided alongside updates that were given 77 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 3: to foreign partners in the region. 78 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: Clay, this is an internal, senior level, a senior level 79 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 1: deliberation of national security officials in the government. Somehow an 80 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 1: American journalist got access to it, and I think it's 81 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 1: just an oversight in error, one that will not be replicated. 82 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 1: And I'm already kind of tired of talking about it, 83 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 1: but I just don't want to let anybody leave anybody 84 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: in the lurch with the ability to get attacked by 85 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 1: Oh but did you see the latest or did you 86 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: see more? But this is a this is a political hit. 87 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 1: They've had nothing to attack Trump with other than the 88 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: stock market went down today, the price of eggs is high, 89 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: and so now they're doing this. I don't think we're 90 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: talking about this by Monday of next week, and that's 91 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: the way that it should be. 92 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 2: So the one thing I will say is it definitely 93 00:04:56,040 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 2: feels more and more calculated to me the way that 94 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 2: this has been released, because they're trying to turn it 95 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 2: into a multi day story as opposed to a one 96 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 2: day story. So yesterday's story was, oh, my goodness, can 97 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 2: you believe this happened? I guess it was actually the 98 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 2: day before yesterday, right, This initially happened on Monday afternoon, 99 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 2: if I remember correctly. But after we were off the 100 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 2: air Tuesday we talked about it, that seemed to kind 101 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 2: of have died down and basically ended. And then this 102 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 2: morning more of the text change text chain is released, 103 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 2: and I wonder if Goldberg is keeping more of the 104 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 2: text chain to try to have a third bite at 105 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 2: the apple, so to speak, to keep the story getting 106 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:49,119 Speaker 2: a lot of attention. I think in general, the fact 107 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 2: that the reporter was added to the chat it makes 108 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 2: it look more incompetent than malicious, if that makes sense. 109 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 2: And I also think that one reason this is not 110 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 2: going to I agree with you in terms of how 111 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 2: many days it's going to go on, But one reason 112 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 2: it's not going to be a never ending, multi day 113 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 2: story is because there was no hypocrisy by and large 114 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:17,239 Speaker 2: in what we've seen so far on the text chain 115 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 2: that was released publicly that is different than really what 116 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 2: people would say privately. 117 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 1: And usually these stories blow up. 118 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 2: In a big way when we become aware that what 119 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 2: was being said publicly was very different than what was 120 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 2: being discussed privately. And we've seen, for instance, a lot 121 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 2: of the emails around COVID, when you saw the scientists 122 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:42,919 Speaker 2: privately expressing doubts about, for instance, the lab leak and 123 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 2: whether it might have happened, or whether COVID was created 124 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 2: in a lab as opposed to coming from an animal. 125 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 2: But then when they all went out in public, they 126 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 2: uniformly said, oh, there's no basis whatsoever for anything other 127 00:06:54,800 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 2: than this one story. I do think that trumping out 128 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 2: and basically shutting it down has also gone a long 129 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 2: way towards towards limiting the fallout. And of anybody out there, 130 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 2: who do you think trust the national security experts less 131 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 2: than Donald Trump? Right now, after these same guys with 132 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 2: we talked about this, the FBI raided his house and 133 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 2: took out all these supposedly classified documents, and then we 134 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 2: didn't talk about it a lot. But just a few 135 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 2: weeks ago they gave him all back to him. 136 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 4: Buck. 137 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 2: Did you notice when he was on air Force air 138 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 2: Force one a couple of weeks ago, but also on 139 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 2: Marine one, they were carrying boxes which were the papers 140 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 2: that they had seized that they were going to try 141 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 2: to put him in prison for the rest of his 142 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 2: life for having. Oh, by the way, now they've given him. 143 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: Back to him. 144 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 2: I just think that that capstone to this story did 145 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 2: not get a lot of attention. If these papers are 146 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 2: so dangerous. I know, he's the president of the United States. Again, 147 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 2: theoretically he could declassify anything if he wants, but I 148 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 2: think he recognizes that a lot of this is bureaucratic 149 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 2: rigmarole in the way that it talks. Let me also 150 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 2: add this, I don't think the average American cares that much, right. 151 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: I think if you're a. 152 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 2: Diehard propagandist partisan on the left, you're super fired up 153 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 2: about this story. The average person in America today, I 154 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 2: don't think that there would be anyone out there that 155 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 2: is obsessively following this. Who is the middle of the 156 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 2: road voter or just a regular person. 157 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 1: I think the people who are particularly critical of this 158 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 1: in public, again, it's a mistake, there's no question they've 159 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 1: admitted that it's a mistake. But nothing bad happened, right, 160 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 1: The no harm, no foul principle should apply to things 161 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: like this, just like it does everything else in life. 162 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:55,439 Speaker 1: The strikes happened the who thi's? And if people say 163 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: huti and huthi by the way, and it has to 164 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: do with the transliteration from the Arabic Modern Standard Arabic 165 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: has something closer to a th sound for English speakers, 166 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: but in the Arabic dialect, I believe in Yemen it's 167 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: more like a tea. So just if I switch back 168 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: and forth, everybody switches back and forth. Clay says hoodie, 169 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: I say houthy d and I Gabbert said huthy. Because 170 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: I know we're gonna get the pronunciation. Police. I know 171 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:21,959 Speaker 1: you're out there. I know you're cruising around with your 172 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: aviators on and your State trooper hat, you know, drinking 173 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 1: your drinking your black coffee, and just looking out there 174 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: waiting for somebody to mess up the pronunciation. So I 175 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: am well aware of the differentiation between HOODI and Huthy. 176 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: But Clay, none of this stuff is big. Nothing happened. Look, 177 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: the problem that I have had in the back of 178 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: my mind with this, or the thing that could become 179 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:51,559 Speaker 1: a problem is if Jeffrey Goldberg had something really sensitive 180 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 1: in there that shouldn't be in a signal chat and 181 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,839 Speaker 1: they've lied about it by saying there's nothing sensitive, and 182 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 1: then he drops that that was my It doesn't seem 183 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,319 Speaker 1: like that's going to happen right now based on the chat. 184 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: We've all read the chat logs now they've been released, 185 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 1: unless he's holding something back and setting a trap for 186 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: the people that were coming forward to speak about this. 187 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: But you know, you asked us, okay, what what happened? 188 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 1: The strike occurred. There's no reason to believe the strike 189 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:23,559 Speaker 1: didn't happen exactly as planned. What's the problem, right, I mean, 190 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: you know you ask yourself that question, and there's really 191 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: no answer to it. Uh And and I think that 192 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: that tells you all you need to know about this. 193 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,599 Speaker 1: The the I don't know how Jeffrey Goldberg got added it. 194 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: Somebody added him, Okay, like that. I don't like being 195 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: talked to like we're idiots. There's a little, a little 196 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: tiny bit of that coming around on some of this stuff, 197 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 1: like we don't know we need to have the smartest 198 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: tech minds. No, you guys, someone mistakenly added a journalist 199 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 1: and they meant to add somebody else. Okay, let's not 200 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 1: let's not do this thing. Where is the Atlantic hacking 201 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: into the Atlantic, which is run by and and you know, 202 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: full of staffed by imbeciles, is not hacking into signal 203 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 1: with top principles of the United States government national security complex. 204 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: Somebody made an oopsie, nothing bad happened. Don't make another oopsie. 205 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 1: And the Democrats are doing what they always do, which 206 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,479 Speaker 1: is just find some way to make this all about 207 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 1: attacking the people in charge because they don't like them. 208 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: That's that's really what this comes down to. 209 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 2: One thing I have thought about this, and I agree 210 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 2: with a lot of that. How many different other signal 211 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 2: chats are currently underway on the group text chain. In 212 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 2: other words, if we've got one dealing with the UTI 213 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 2: bombing that's going to be taking place, are there ten 214 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 2: other group chats? This is one thing I am thinking about, 215 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 2: And are we certain that everybody on those group chats 216 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 2: is who they're supposed to be, because I don't think that. 217 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:57,719 Speaker 2: For the first time ever, they just had I think 218 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 2: it was an eighteen person group chat related to this 219 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 2: particular incident. I would think based on the way these 220 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 2: guys are communicating that they are regularly communicating in general. 221 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 2: So how many other group chats are out there? I 222 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 2: think that's one of the steps that will be taken next. 223 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 2: And hopefully there's no branking a journalist on them. 224 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: But this is fine, Clay. National security officials are human 225 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:21,199 Speaker 1: beings who have to operate in the real world as well. 226 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: They speak on open lines. They I was just on 227 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:27,559 Speaker 1: the phone at the CIA yesterday. Don't even get me 228 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: started trying to get my book through the review process. 229 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 1: I am how's that going about? I am very very 230 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: unhappy with them, But that's a whole other conversation. They're 231 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:39,839 Speaker 1: blaming elon now we can't get anything done, you know anyway, 232 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 1: I don't want to get into it. I don't want 233 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: to get into it. It's very very frustrating, very frustrating 234 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 1: over there. But when you're when you're on an open line, 235 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 1: I mean you you can speak to people on an 236 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 1: open line and you just can't speak about classified and 237 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: if you start here, they're just gonna hang up on 238 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: you right away. So there there are ways that you know, 239 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:04,079 Speaker 1: you can get in contact with national security officials or 240 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: rather the national security officials speak to each other and 241 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,719 Speaker 1: you just have normal conversations, right, I mean, or you 242 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 1: speak about things as though you could be recorded, or 243 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 1: you have to assume you're being recorded, you're being intercepted, 244 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: and you don't talk about classified stuff. But this is 245 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: like the foundation of all operational security. It all comes 246 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 1: down to the individual. There's all these posters and things. 247 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: If you go into it, whether it's a military base 248 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: or you're in a CIA office, there's you know, operational 249 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 1: security starts with you. Yeah, because you know stuff that 250 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: if you shout it out loud, it would be very bad. 251 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,839 Speaker 1: So you don't do that, and it's on you to 252 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: make sure that the level of classification that you're operating 253 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: on or under is attuned to the system you're using. 254 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: So open line phone, assume the Russians are listening, and 255 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: who cares, right, because then you're assuming they're listening, So clay, 256 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: when you're saying other other signal chats, that's not a problem. 257 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: There are unclassified emails that go around government officials, right, 258 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: the same thing with Hillary and her server. The problem 259 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: wasn't that Hillary Clinton ever used unclassified email. The problem 260 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:12,559 Speaker 1: was she only used to unclassified email and had special 261 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: Access program data and all kinds of really classified stuff 262 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: in there. Right, that was the It's not oh my god, 263 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: how could you send an unclassified email about yoga and 264 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: chardonnay drinking. It's that she messed it up. So I 265 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: don't know that we can assume where we should assume 266 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: that anybody messed anything up on any signal chats. But yeah, 267 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: this one is not Look, it's not good. I'm gonna 268 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: but it's not a big deal. Right, there's not good 269 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: and not a big deal. It's in the national security world, 270 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: I would say, more like a speeding ticket. And they're 271 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: saying that this is more like a mass murder because 272 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: they're insane, so well and they need something to attack. 273 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: And this is where you've given the opportunity. Of all 274 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: the journalists that could have been added on the group chat, 275 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: maybe the worst one to add, just just tossing it 276 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: out there, that is a very good point. I mean, 277 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: to add the national secure quote unquote correspondent or writer, 278 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: editor or whatever, who is probably more directly than almost 279 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: anybody else, tried to destroy Donald Trump. That's the thing, right, 280 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: I mean, if they had added some. 281 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 2: Reporter you were me, we would have been like, hey, 282 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 2: I don't think we're supposed to be I don't think 283 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 2: I'm supposed to be on this, and it would nobody 284 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 2: would have ever known, right, I mean, it's that they 285 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 2: added this guy. He stayed hidden in the chat, saw 286 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 2: all the chats, and he hates Trump. 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Were you 313 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: ever a Hot Wheels guy when they were a big thing? 314 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: Remember the car? Remember on TV? They made it seem 315 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: so cool, these toys, and then you'd get them when 316 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,439 Speaker 1: you were like six years old, and it didn't go 317 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: by itself and it didn't look as cool as it 318 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 1: did on TV. 319 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 2: I was not, but my oldest son was a big 320 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 2: hot wheels kid. 321 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 1: Like. 322 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:25,360 Speaker 2: We had a lot of you know, cars for him 323 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 2: to play with. He had the uh, the tracks you 324 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 2: know where you can race cars against each other. He 325 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:34,959 Speaker 2: was of my three boys, the one that that I 326 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 2: remember being the most uh sort of into hot wheels, 327 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 2: and we spent a lot of time playing cars. 328 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 1: I remember my my little nephew who's growing up very fast, 329 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 1: my sister's boy. It's funny because it's one of those 330 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: experiments that you didn't mean to run, but you see 331 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: it in real time. He just likes so many other 332 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:57,159 Speaker 1: little boys. This is just in the whole gender you know, 333 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: what's gender normative everything else. He loves trucks and dinosaurs. Yep. 334 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 1: And what I think is that no one ever told 335 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,679 Speaker 1: him you need to like trucks, you know, like dump 336 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: trucks and and you know, and like like construction kind 337 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,479 Speaker 1: of trucks. He is, he's got all these toys everywhere. 338 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 1: He's you know, three years old now, and dinosaurs. He 339 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: knows more about dinosaurs than I do. And I actually 340 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 1: think I was pretty good. You know, he was talking 341 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,679 Speaker 1: about like pacisephio loris or something. I don't even know that. 342 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 1: But the boys like things that boys like at a 343 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 1: young age, you know, and it's different. He's not sitting 344 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: there playing with little tea sets, and it's just based 345 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 1: on what he asked for. Side note. But I do 346 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 1: think it's in and there's a lot of science that 347 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: all the scientific data supports this. I might add that 348 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 1: little boys like different things in terms of you know, 349 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 1: how they play and their toys and everything, then little girls. 350 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 1: And it's not. You know, oh, if only we gave 351 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:48,919 Speaker 1: them gender neutral clothing, this wouldn't happen. Okay, side note, 352 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 1: but hot, okay, back to hot wheels because buckets buck 353 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,479 Speaker 1: has been has been weaving the story here a little bit. 354 00:18:55,480 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: Back to hot wheels. Here's what we've got. Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett, 355 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: she said she made a hot wheels joke. And I 356 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: don't do the pear clutching thing. I don't think any 357 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: of you do it. You know, we look it's inappropriate. 358 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 1: It's a gross thing to say. But you know, Governor 359 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: Abbot's running the Great State of Texas. And you know, 360 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: he's an incredible success story, and you know, I don't 361 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: think he's up at night upset about this, right, I mean, 362 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 1: you know he's he's a big, successful, powerful. 363 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 2: Guy, and you know, it's it's gross things that I 364 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 2: be wearing. I would be wearing a governor hot wheels, teacher. 365 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:31,679 Speaker 1: I agree with you that that leaning into it, that 366 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:34,159 Speaker 1: you know, if he decided to get like flames painted 367 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: on the side of his wheelchair or something that actually 368 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:40,679 Speaker 1: really really funny, right, yes, yeah, like if he just 369 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: leans into it, because yeah, obviously you know, he's overcome 370 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: a tremendous challenge in his life, but he's done so 371 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 1: with with amazing success and and you know we we 372 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 1: we know and like the Governor Texas is a good guy. 373 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: So anyway, she said that which was not good. Okay, 374 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: it was not as it was not. It was a 375 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 1: it was a nasty and dumb thing to say. Not 376 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 1: a surprise coming from Congresswoman Crockett. 377 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 3: Uh. 378 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 1: And then she put this out Clay and I'm quoting here. 379 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:09,919 Speaker 1: This is her justification or her rationalization or what I 380 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: want to hear this I have not seen. This is 381 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 1: first time for Clay, So you're getting this in real time. 382 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: I think a lot of you will be getting this 383 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: in real time. Quote. I wasn't thinking about the governor's condition. 384 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 1: I was thinking about the planes, trains, and automobiles he 385 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 1: used to transfer migrants into communities led by black mayors, 386 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 1: deliberately stoking tension and fear among the most vulnerable. Literally, 387 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:35,919 Speaker 1: the next line I said was that he was a 388 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: hot ass mess, referencing his terrible policies. At no point 389 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:45,120 Speaker 1: did I mention or allude to his condition. So I'm 390 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: even more appalled that the very people who unequivocally support Trump, 391 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 1: a man known for his racially insensitive nicknames and mocking 392 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 1: those with disabilities, are now outraged. Clay. One, she didn't 393 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: write this. Two who, No one believes this. She doesn't 394 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,679 Speaker 1: believe it. Her supporters don't believe it. We don't believe it. 395 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:10,640 Speaker 1: What is she doing? I just I don't think she's 396 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: very intelligent. I mean, and. 397 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 2: We said that about AOC. I think AOC is a 398 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:22,360 Speaker 2: next level smarter than Jasmine Crocket. I just I don't 399 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 2: know who the Jasmine Crockett constituency is. I understand that 400 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 2: she has a congressional district. I presume, if our team 401 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 2: can look it up, I presume that it is one 402 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 2: of the congressional districts that the state of Texas has 403 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 2: basically loaded with Democrats right. Unfortunately, to a large extent, 404 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 2: most congressional districts are not actually that competitive. There's four 405 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 2: hundred and thirty five of them nationwide. I think there's 406 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 2: about thirty that in any given year now can swing 407 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 2: one direction or the other. Both parties have jerry mander 408 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 2: to such an extent that they have guaranteed themselves the 409 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 2: maximum number of seats in the states that they control, 410 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 2: and they have stuffed a lot of Democrats in seats, 411 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 2: or they've stuffed a lot of Republicans in seats. So 412 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 2: I'm guessing Jasmine Crockett is representing one of those seats, 413 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 2: and so there is no requirement that she in any 414 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 2: way be a reasonable person. Having said that, I encourage 415 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 2: her to keep talking. I think that every time Jasmine 416 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 2: Crockett opens her mouth, Republicans gain more supporters and she 417 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 2: doesn't gain anyone. 418 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 1: And this is not a spot you want to be in. 419 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 2: It can be simultaneously the case that it's for her 420 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 2: career to be saying the things that she's saying because 421 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 2: she is in a safe seat in the state of Texas, 422 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 2: I think the Houston area somewhere, and she can't be 423 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 2: removed because she's seen as a powerful person in Democrat politics. 424 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 2: But it can also be the case that she is 425 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 2: lighting on fire her ability, her ability to grow the 426 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 2: overall Democrat party by the way, uh Dallas not Houston 427 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 2: area district. And I just encourage her to keep talking. 428 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 2: And that is I mean, that's when you're attacked. The 429 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 2: basic pr move now is to pivot on your attack 430 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 2: and immediately double and triple down on the attack that 431 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 2: you made in the first first place. So she immediately 432 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 2: goes after Trump for being racist and whatever, it's enophobic, 433 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 2: whatever she wants to accuse him of. But everybody knows, 434 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 2: I mean, the governor is in a wheelchair. Do you 435 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,959 Speaker 2: really you don't think if she's too dumb to recognize 436 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 2: that calling him governor hot wheels is like, let's presume 437 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 2: it might actually be worse than being a nasty person, 438 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 2: who would who would make fun of that kind of additionability, 439 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 2: She would actually be so dumb that she wouldn't even 440 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 2: conceive of like no, no light bulb goes off in 441 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 2: her head when she's like, he's literally in a wheelchair 442 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 2: and you're mocking him him using wheels. I mean, come on, 443 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 2: like that's she If she's truly that dumb, it's even 444 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 2: worse almost. 445 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 1: The pivot you talked about, the pr pivot. Was it 446 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 1: Harvey Weinstein, if memory serves this is like a decade ago, 447 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 1: who said, when the allegations came out about him, I'm 448 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 1: going to dedicate myself to fighting the NRA. Was it 449 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: Harvey Weinstein who did that? I think that's really funny, 450 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: which was one of the It was like, it was like, 451 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 1: excuse me, I was not sexually assaulting all these women, 452 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 1: and I'm going to redouble my efforts against the NRA. 453 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 2: Was it Kevin Spacey who came out for the first 454 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 2: time is gay. As soon as he got charged with 455 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 2: sexually inappropriate behavior, somebody came out. 456 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: Well, there was the governor. The governor of New Jersey 457 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,479 Speaker 1: had a I had like I think it was his 458 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,160 Speaker 1: And again, guys, I'm going on memory. I don't remember everything. 459 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 1: I think it was his lover. He was married to 460 00:24:55,560 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: a woman and I think had kids. Mcgreevy's gay. And 461 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: then came out and said I am a gay American 462 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:06,719 Speaker 1: when he had gotten his like boyfriend basically some senior 463 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: level six figure job, like a no show job in 464 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 1: the Jersey state government, and it turned into this whole scandal. Guys. Facts. Sorry, 465 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 1: we're throwing a lot of fact checks at you. In 466 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,479 Speaker 1: real time. I think Joe Harvey Weinstein was the one 467 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: who pulled the NRA thing, which was just like it's 468 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: it's like, hey, hey, hey, I know everyone's thinking that 469 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: i did all these terrible things to women, but I'm 470 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: going to write a check to fight the NRA right now, 471 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,239 Speaker 1: And that was supposed to get him out of it. 472 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 2: Well, and a lot of people did the This is 473 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 2: probably years and years ago, but you remember anytime you 474 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 2: did something bad, you just went to rehab. 475 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 1: Like for in. 476 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,199 Speaker 2: Hollywood, the number one move for like twenty years was 477 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 2: oh so and so did so and so, and you're like, yeah, 478 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:50,360 Speaker 2: I'm just going to rehab. 479 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,719 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, that doesn't really happen anymore. 480 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 2: It's like we don't give the rehab card the same way, 481 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 2: so now it is very odd. Like I think it 482 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 2: was Kevin Spacey who was like, you know, actually I'm 483 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 2: gay and I'm just being targeted because I'm gay. 484 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 1: Oh, by the way, I actually nailed it with the 485 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 1: recall of this one. I pulled this one up Clay 486 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 1: Harvey Weinstein. This is back in. I said it was 487 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 1: a decade ago. 488 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 6: Is that right? 489 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, twenty seventeen, so basically a decade ago. He said, 490 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 1: this is amazing. Remember this guy was accused. I mean 491 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,959 Speaker 1: he's serving time I think still, or I think he 492 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: one of his convictions got overturned, but he has served 493 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:30,360 Speaker 1: time for rape. I'm not sure what the current adjudication 494 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: of his cases is, but he went to prison for 495 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 1: a long time. But when this was all coming out, 496 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 1: he said, this is true. I've decided that I'm going 497 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: to give the NRA my full attention. He is determined 498 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:50,400 Speaker 1: to quote channel his anger toward the National Rifle Association. 499 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:55,199 Speaker 1: That was really his pivot, that was his go to. 500 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: It's like, hey, I know you think that I'm a 501 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 1: rapist or I've been charged by women on the record 502 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 1: and by law enforcement with sexual assault, but I really 503 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,640 Speaker 1: hate the NRA, so let's focus on what matters here. Now. 504 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 1: That didn't work for him, But I just think that 505 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,120 Speaker 1: that may be the most outlandish pivot of that kind 506 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 1: I can remember, but uh, Jasmine Krockett pulling the oh, 507 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 1: I wasn't making fun of governor hot wheels in a wheelchair. 508 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,479 Speaker 1: By the way, Trump is really bad. What does that 509 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 1: have to do with anything? Correct, with anything. It's a 510 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: very predictable pivot. 511 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 2: But again, I love your idea of him putting flames 512 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 2: on actually be really funny. 513 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 1: For his next press conference. 514 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 2: If he came out with the hot wheels flames on 515 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 2: his wheels, I would definitely wear the governor hot wheel 516 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,120 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think it's a bad nickname, honestly, 517 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,119 Speaker 2: like and it definitely throws it back in her face 518 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 2: and makes it very funny. I think that would I 519 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 2: think that would be phenomenal. I would encourage the governor 520 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,479 Speaker 2: to take that move because I think even people who 521 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 2: don't like Greg Abbott would respect the sense of humor 522 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 2: that he is showing. And obviously he's a very accomplished guy. 523 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 2: And to your point, I mean a tree fell on 524 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 2: him when he was out. I think jogging in his 525 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 2: in his twenties a horrible access awful. 526 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:12,679 Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, ta. 527 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 2: Kevin spacey Buck did also come out as gay as 528 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 2: soon as he was accused of sexual misconduct. It's like, oh, 529 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,640 Speaker 2: by the way, guys, I'm gay, you know, like, well, okay, 530 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 2: but you were accused of sexual misconduct. 531 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 1: That was That was That's very I feel like we 532 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 1: can look back now at this at the rise of 533 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,640 Speaker 1: Remember they used to talk about intersectionality all the time. Yeah, 534 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: which is the pseudo scientific description of a society that's 535 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: just all these interlocking oppressed groups, right, and there's this 536 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 1: hierarchy of oppression and everyone's appressed. We don't don't even 537 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: use the term really anymore. But with the rise of intersectionality, 538 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 1: there was the oh, I'm in trouble. I have to 539 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 1: retreat into the bunker of my oppressed group as fast 540 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 1: as possible. That's that was the move right. 541 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 2: But gay people, even like even gay people on the 542 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 2: Kevin Spacey thing were like, no, this is way that 543 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 2: you get to come out and be like, I'm being 544 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 2: targeted because he was accused remember Buck initially of sleeping 545 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 2: with a fourteen year old boy. 546 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 1: So I think no, no, I think I no, no, I 547 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 1: think it was I think it was making a move on. 548 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 1: I don't think I maybe here, I don't think. 549 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 2: Let's see, well anyway, he was accused of something back 550 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 2: and sexual advances. 551 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 1: It's sexual advances. Yeah he did not. Actually then there's 552 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:38,239 Speaker 1: a distinction there, but there he did anyway, Yeah, he uh, 553 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: he completed. He also has always. I don't think he 554 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: ever was charged with anything, was he he's always I 555 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 1: think he beat the charges in England. Oh, that's right, 556 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 1: in England. Yeah, so he was always Yeah, but yes 557 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 1: he did do he did do the pivot all right. 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That's Legacybox dot com slash buck. 588 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 2: Welcome back in nour number two, Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. 589 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 2: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us as we 590 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 2: are rolling through the program. We'll take some of your calls. 591 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 2: We'll continue to react to everything, and we bring in 592 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 2: now our good friend Bill O'Reilly. Next book comes out 593 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 2: in September, Confronting Evil, Assessing the worst of the Worst, 594 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 2: and he's got a Three Americans Live show with Stephen A. 595 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 2: Smith and Chris Cuomo in Westbury, New York. It is 596 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 2: this Sunday. Tickets available at Bill O'Reilly dot com. Bill, 597 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 2: we appreciate you coming on. How big of a story 598 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 2: do you think the signal controversy is? How long does 599 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 2: it go on? What is your analysis right now? 600 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 7: Pretty much over today unless there's another revelation, so we 601 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 7: know what happened. You know, Walls inadvertently screwed up his 602 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 7: communications on this internet site, and this weasel Jeffrey Goldberg 603 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 7: got on the site and got the information. Big mistake, 604 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 7: not a scandal. If I were President Trump, I wouldn't 605 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 7: fire anybody, certainly embarrassing. If it happens again, then he 606 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 7: has to fire a whole bunch of people. 607 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 1: I think that's totally correct, though I totally agree with that. Bill, 608 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 1: Thanks for being here with us. The one part of 609 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 1: this that I think is interesting is or are there 610 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 1: a few things that have come out of this, but 611 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: one of them is, what do you think are the 612 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 1: ethics of a journalist in this case getting access? Do 613 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: you think that he plays the I'm a journalist, so 614 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 1: I should just find out whatever I can card or 615 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 1: given that it's national security, which by his own admission 616 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 1: is high level stuff impending strike, he should have ducked 617 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 1: out of it. I mean, what do you think is 618 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 1: the right move? Quite honestly, if you were advising somebody 619 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 1: who came to you and said, hey, I'm in this 620 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 1: chat and they're talking about some stuff they shouldn't, what 621 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 1: would you tell them to do? 622 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 7: All right? As the Dean of American journalism, that's me 623 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 7: fifty years this year in the business, getting paid fifty years. 624 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 7: So I'm appointing myself the dean of American journalism. If 625 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 7: it or men I got on a thread accidentally as 626 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 7: a reporter, I would take notes, all right. I would 627 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 7: get the information because that's what reporters do. And Goldberg, 628 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 7: I don't think that anything deceitful, but I'm not entirely sure, 629 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 7: and I'm going to make a point about that in 630 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,360 Speaker 7: a moment. But as far as the reporter is concerned. 631 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 7: His or her duty is to assemble information, and this 632 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 7: would be something that drops in your lap and you're going, WHOA, 633 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 7: I'm going to listen to this, Okay, So that's not 634 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,839 Speaker 7: any kind of violation of journalistic ethics or anything else. 635 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 7: Then you have to decide what to do with the information. 636 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 7: Now here it becomes a little bit murky. If lives 637 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 7: are in danger, if military actions compromise, certainly you cannot 638 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 7: release it cannot until after the fact, and I believe 639 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:50,400 Speaker 7: that's what Goldbert did. So this all happened on March fifteenth, right, 640 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 7: so he was shutting a fine line, no doubt. And 641 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 7: the FBI should be interviewing him. I don't know what 642 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 7: cash Fatilla is, but agents should have interviewed him on 643 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:08,359 Speaker 7: Monday just to find out, you know, what the dews happen. Right? 644 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 7: Does that make sense to everybody? Why wouldn't you be 645 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 7: Jeffrey Gober be interviewed by the FBI. I don't believe 646 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 7: that's happened. That has nobody knows about it. It should. Finally, 647 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 7: the importance of the story is that if you are 648 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 7: going to depend on the Internet for vital national security communications, 649 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,280 Speaker 7: the Chinese and Russians are going to be your best friends. 650 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 7: So all these people should have known better, all of them. 651 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 7: It's a lot of inexperience in that national security room, 652 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 7: as we all know, and I pointed that out before 653 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 7: these appointments were made. So there we go. 654 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 1: So what do you think? You said? 655 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,879 Speaker 2: You think the story's basically over. President Trump certainly has 656 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,920 Speaker 2: no love lost for the national security experts out there 657 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 2: demanding that people be fired after they raided his home 658 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:08,919 Speaker 2: and tried to put him in prison for the rest 659 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 2: of his life for classified documents. Trump seems to be 660 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 2: totally behind his team right now. Through sixty days, there 661 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,399 Speaker 2: have been very few leaks. I mean, this was, as 662 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 2: Buck and I have talked about, not only an error, 663 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:27,280 Speaker 2: but an error that actually was probably the worst person 664 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:31,240 Speaker 2: you could have put on the text thread, right because 665 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 2: I don't think most people would have behaved in the 666 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:39,800 Speaker 2: way necessarily that Jeffrey Goldberg has. But we're through sixty days. 667 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:41,719 Speaker 2: You think this story is going to go away? What 668 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 2: grade would you give President Trump? Bill O'Reilly? Right now 669 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 2: through the first couple of months of Trump two point zero. 670 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 7: Okay, So you're not just grading him on this incident, 671 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:57,320 Speaker 7: you're grading him off correct the performance. So I actually 672 00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:03,120 Speaker 7: have asked this question on Steven ah Smith podcast Monday, 673 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,719 Speaker 7: and thank you for mentioning the live show that we're 674 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 7: doing on Sunday at West very Long Island. And I 675 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:13,400 Speaker 7: give Trump various grades. So he gets an A plus 676 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 7: on the border, yep, he gets a B plus on 677 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:23,440 Speaker 7: the deportations of criminal aliens. I think that Holman, who 678 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,760 Speaker 7: I had on my program that it spent news yesterday, 679 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:32,240 Speaker 7: has got to be a little bit more methodical about 680 00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,759 Speaker 7: who's getting booted out of here and why. So I 681 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 7: bet I get a B plus. The tariffs, I'm giving 682 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 7: him a C and an incomplete because we do not 683 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 7: know how that's going to work out, and it's spooked 684 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 7: the stock market, so some people got hurt in the 685 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,759 Speaker 7: short term. I tell all my listeners and viewers do 686 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,279 Speaker 7: not react to political things in a stock market, just 687 00:37:55,640 --> 00:38:00,879 Speaker 7: ride it out. And there isn't for me. By the way, 688 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:07,920 Speaker 7: that is coming in. I think it was one of 689 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 7: the Arab states, Gulf states investing a trillion dollars in 690 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:16,440 Speaker 7: American economy, and that's not reported by the corrupt press. 691 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,760 Speaker 7: So there is big money coming into the United States, 692 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:23,839 Speaker 7: which will bolster the economy. But right now people are 693 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 7: confused about tariffs. It is a confusing situation, and so 694 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,840 Speaker 7: I'm giving them a c there as far as overall 695 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,799 Speaker 7: demeanor is concerned. As you guys probably know, I was 696 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:36,839 Speaker 7: in a cabinet meeting in the White House on Saint 697 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:40,839 Speaker 7: Patrick's day. He was totally in command. I think he's 698 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 7: doing the right thing with Putin, even though Putin is 699 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 7: on the cover of my upcoming book Confronting Evil. Putin 700 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,840 Speaker 7: is evil, but you got to deal with evil sometimes. 701 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 7: And I think they're going to get some kind of 702 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:56,920 Speaker 7: seas fire in Ukraine. That's big. Overall, I would say 703 00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 7: President Trump is having a successful launch into his second term. 704 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,839 Speaker 1: We're trying to Bill o'reiley. Oh sorry, I just want 705 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 1: to Bill. I want to ask you. You mentioned the 706 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,240 Speaker 1: live show coming up with Stephen A. There's a different 707 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,759 Speaker 1: kind of live show that's been happening lately, a road 708 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 1: show of sorts with Bernie Sanders and AOC. It's like 709 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:23,880 Speaker 1: the socialist elder statesman trying to pass the torch to 710 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 1: the woke, radical leftist. You know, this is this the 711 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 1: future of the Democrat Party? You think are they going 712 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,919 Speaker 1: to lead into this. You know, how do you see 713 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 1: that playing out? Because they have, as we've discussed with 714 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,440 Speaker 1: you before, the bench. They can tell us all day 715 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,600 Speaker 1: it's strong. Their bench is not strong right now. 716 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 7: Well, if they continue on this way, and you're throwing 717 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:51,440 Speaker 7: Maxine Waters saying that Malania and Trump may not be 718 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:55,760 Speaker 7: a citizen, you throw in that Crockett woman in Texas 719 00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:00,919 Speaker 7: who is mocking Greg Abbott in a wheelchair. You put 720 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 7: that all in one soup bowl, and Americans are going 721 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 7: this party is disintegrating. With a thirty percent approval rating, 722 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 7: You're going to have two communists go out and do 723 00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:19,800 Speaker 7: a tour. Sanders is a hardcore communist. He wants to 724 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,919 Speaker 7: see his private property. O cassio Quot says, I don't 725 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 7: think understands the difference between socialism and communism. Could be wrong, 726 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,080 Speaker 7: and I don't want to be super silly as word 727 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,840 Speaker 7: of the day. She went to the same college I 728 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:35,480 Speaker 7: went to Boston University. But I don't think she understands 729 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,760 Speaker 7: economics at all. I think she's just a trendy person 730 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,719 Speaker 7: who goes and says what she thinks for radical left 731 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,880 Speaker 7: followers want to hear. But Santers is a dangerous man. 732 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:49,799 Speaker 7: He's dangerous. And I don't know whether most Americans understand 733 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:54,600 Speaker 7: that Uncle Bernie is a hardcore communist, but certainly, when 734 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:58,040 Speaker 7: you promote a wealth tax where the government would come 735 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:03,360 Speaker 7: into your home and private property under the guise of taxation, 736 00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:08,360 Speaker 7: you're a communist. That's what communism is. So if the 737 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:12,400 Speaker 7: Democratic Party putting their future in the hands of those 738 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,040 Speaker 7: four people, then it's done. 739 00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:20,520 Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw this, Lebron James, since 740 00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,480 Speaker 2: you were gonna be with Steven A. Smith and you 741 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:26,880 Speaker 2: just did his podcast, Lebron James just went on ESPN 742 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,799 Speaker 2: and really kind of took a two by four to 743 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:31,440 Speaker 2: Steven A. 744 00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:31,920 Speaker 1: Smith. 745 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,960 Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw this, but he mocked 746 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,799 Speaker 2: him over the way that he has You know, they 747 00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:41,600 Speaker 2: had a confrontation of sorts on the court, and he 748 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,000 Speaker 2: mocked him over the way that he has covered it. 749 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:49,960 Speaker 2: You have seen Stephen A. Smith be engaging more and 750 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:53,239 Speaker 2: more in politics. Do you buy the idea that he 751 00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,720 Speaker 2: might ever do anything in terms of actually running for office. 752 00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,160 Speaker 2: You're doing this tour with him now, I'm sure you'll 753 00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:02,759 Speaker 2: talk about the on feud a little bit, but what 754 00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 2: is his ind game here? He's now got one hundred 755 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:09,160 Speaker 2: million dollar contract from ESPN, He's gonna theoretically have more 756 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,359 Speaker 2: money than he could theoretically spend. I say theoretically because 757 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,600 Speaker 2: there's a lot of people out there who have made 758 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,600 Speaker 2: a hundred million dollars crazily and end up going bankrupt somehow. 759 00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:19,879 Speaker 1: So that's still out there. But what do you think 760 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:21,200 Speaker 1: the next move for stephen A. 761 00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,560 Speaker 7: Is Well, I don't think he's gonna run for politics 762 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:28,640 Speaker 7: anytime soon. He's in his fifties. When he gets in 763 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:33,800 Speaker 7: his sixties, who probably have enough of calling Cleveland Cavalier games. 764 00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,239 Speaker 7: And maybe he'll say, and he's a very smart guy. 765 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,960 Speaker 7: I think he's honest. I've seen nothing to the contrary. 766 00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:46,520 Speaker 7: I'm gonna take his measure on Sunday. You know, Cuomo 767 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:50,200 Speaker 7: and Smith, they better be on their game. They're coming 768 00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:57,040 Speaker 7: up against me, the Dan of American journalism, self appointed 769 00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:01,440 Speaker 7: of course. But anyway, lebron James, when he was yelling 770 00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:05,080 Speaker 7: at stephen A. Smith initially was doing so as a 771 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:09,560 Speaker 7: father and I understand that because Smith mocked his son, 772 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:14,160 Speaker 7: Bronnie James, who might not be ready for prime time yet. 773 00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:18,840 Speaker 7: As on the Lakers, it is a neppo situation. But 774 00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:22,080 Speaker 7: I understand that by yelling at Smith on the sideline 775 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:25,319 Speaker 7: that then Lebron James pulled his groin and was out 776 00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:31,040 Speaker 7: for two weeks. So maybe maybe that's something. But you know, 777 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:34,080 Speaker 7: these kinds of feuds, a lot of them are artificial, 778 00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:38,040 Speaker 7: and they helped the feuders. Yes, Lebron James is an 779 00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:41,440 Speaker 7: attention junkie loves it, and I think Steven A likes 780 00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:42,440 Speaker 7: the attention as well. 781 00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,319 Speaker 1: Bill, do you still have some tickets to sell for 782 00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,360 Speaker 1: this live event? Where do folks go to get them? 783 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,759 Speaker 7: You know, it's a really nice crowd, but we just 784 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:55,040 Speaker 7: released fifteen VIP tickets where after the show you get 785 00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:59,560 Speaker 7: to meet me and Cuomo and Smith. Now why anyone 786 00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,919 Speaker 7: whould want to do that, I don't know, But they 787 00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:07,600 Speaker 7: sold out fast and first, so we scrounged up fifteen 788 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,400 Speaker 7: more and then we you know, Westbury, I don't know 789 00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,000 Speaker 7: if you guys have been there. It's really a good theater. 790 00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,359 Speaker 7: It's not a bad seat in the place. It's got 791 00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:19,600 Speaker 7: a big audio visual and I already have the topics 792 00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:21,279 Speaker 7: that we're going to talk about with the Q and 793 00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,400 Speaker 7: A from the audience. It's gonna be a lot of fun. 794 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,040 Speaker 7: And but they're gonna be serious things that we mentioned 795 00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:33,279 Speaker 7: as well. So if anybody wants a good afternoon Sunday afternoon, 796 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,520 Speaker 7: go to Bill O'Reilly dot com link. You're right over Ticketmaster, 797 00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,240 Speaker 7: Westbury Music Fare all of that. And I appreciate you guys, 798 00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:40,960 Speaker 7: mentioned he it's very kind of you to do it. 799 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:42,800 Speaker 1: Keep up the good work. 800 00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:44,560 Speaker 8: Am I what? 801 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,560 Speaker 1: Sorry, that's what happens. You got two guys doing this sometimes. 802 00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:50,080 Speaker 1: He said, keep up the good work. 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That's eight four four eight to four 835 00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:45,080 Speaker 2: safe Saber Radio s A b r E Radio dot com. 836 00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:48,520 Speaker 2: You don't know what's you don't know right, but you 837 00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:52,400 Speaker 2: could on the Sunday Hang with Clay and Buck podcast. 838 00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,960 Speaker 1: All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck. The signal 839 00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,880 Speaker 1: fire storm is dying out. That's the good news. I 840 00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,520 Speaker 1: think it's dying down. We've seen it all now and 841 00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,399 Speaker 1: or I think we've seen it all and people are 842 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,319 Speaker 1: going to move on to other stuff here soon. But 843 00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,200 Speaker 1: government's still talking about at the very top level. So 844 00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:15,279 Speaker 1: we'll bring you the latest on it in just moments ago. 845 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:19,719 Speaker 1: Pete hegseath here, Secretary of Defense Hegsathy. Wait, it's kind 846 00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,280 Speaker 1: of amaze. Whenever I say that, I'm just like wow, 847 00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:27,120 Speaker 1: Secretary of Defense hegseeth I remember, dude, we were on 848 00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,879 Speaker 1: the blaze together. I actually can't tell you a quick 849 00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:33,880 Speaker 1: story about Secretary of Defense head es he is uh, 850 00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,480 Speaker 1: he is a A. He's a brave fellow, and not 851 00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:38,840 Speaker 1: just for the serving his country in the warzone. Reason. 852 00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:43,000 Speaker 1: We had a I think it was a sponsor who 853 00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:47,359 Speaker 1: came in at one point and it was a it 854 00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:51,320 Speaker 1: was a water filtration system, but you know, something you 855 00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:53,400 Speaker 1: could carry with you for like camping or something. Right, 856 00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:57,640 Speaker 1: it was a little water filtration device. And Pete and 857 00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:59,480 Speaker 1: again this is this was people knew what we talked 858 00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:01,440 Speaker 1: about this on the show. This isn't like some you know, 859 00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,160 Speaker 1: behind the scenes a big thing. But Pete was like, 860 00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:07,120 Speaker 1: I really want to try this out. And we were like, yeah, okay, 861 00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,080 Speaker 1: like go put you know, go do some tap water 862 00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:14,319 Speaker 1: or something. He went out to the curb in New 863 00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:18,319 Speaker 1: York City where there was a puddle oh god, and 864 00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:23,440 Speaker 1: he poured the puddle water into the filtration system and 865 00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:26,640 Speaker 1: drink it to test whether or not it worked. And 866 00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:28,359 Speaker 1: he was fine, I hope it worked. But I mean, 867 00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:32,320 Speaker 1: that's that's you're that's trusting your product. They offer the 868 00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,359 Speaker 1: He he was like it was it was actually him 869 00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,080 Speaker 1: and Will Kate. If you ask Will Kate, he was there. 870 00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:37,719 Speaker 1: He'll remember this too, you know. Will and him are 871 00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,440 Speaker 1: good friends. And I don't know. I don't know if 872 00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,160 Speaker 1: Will I should I should ask. I don't know if 873 00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,040 Speaker 1: we'll drank it. I don't remember, but I remember what 874 00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:45,560 Speaker 1: do you think When they were like, Buck, will you 875 00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,799 Speaker 1: try it? It's like absolutely not, sir, do you think 876 00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:52,600 Speaker 1: I'm a barbarian? But Pete was. He was drinking that water, 877 00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:55,239 Speaker 1: no problem, and I remember I was just like, my 878 00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:58,360 Speaker 1: he was fine. So the system worked, but man, I 879 00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,360 Speaker 1: was not going to be the guinea pig for for 880 00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,880 Speaker 1: that one. So anyway, and now now he Secretary of Defense, 881 00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:06,160 Speaker 1: all right, Secretary Defense, tag Seth. That was a decade ago. 882 00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:10,320 Speaker 1: Secretary Defense, Take Seth. Here he is and he's talking 883 00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:12,560 Speaker 1: about the truth of the signal chat playing. 884 00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:14,600 Speaker 4: Nobody's texting war plans. 885 00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:15,600 Speaker 1: Well, I noticed this. 886 00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,760 Speaker 9: Morning out came something that doesn't look like war plans. 887 00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:22,040 Speaker 4: And as a matter of fact, they even changed the title. 888 00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,840 Speaker 9: To attack plans because they know it's not war plans. 889 00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:28,360 Speaker 4: There's no units, no locations. 890 00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:32,600 Speaker 9: No routes, no flight paths, no sources, no. 891 00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:36,680 Speaker 4: Methods, no classified information. You know who sees war plans? 892 00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:39,600 Speaker 4: I see them every single day. 893 00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:41,760 Speaker 9: I looked at him this morning. I looked at attack 894 00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,800 Speaker 9: plans this morning. You know who does attack plans and 895 00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,600 Speaker 9: war plans. Men like that Admiral right there, Paparo for 896 00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:51,480 Speaker 9: the Indo Pacific or Eric Krilla are general in Sentcom. 897 00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:55,560 Speaker 4: They do attack plans and war plans, And. 898 00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:58,719 Speaker 9: Thank god we had those leaders who do it and 899 00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:02,120 Speaker 9: do it well, and I know it. My job, as 900 00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:03,920 Speaker 9: it said at top of that, everybody's seen it now, 901 00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:08,360 Speaker 9: Team Update is to provide updates in real time general 902 00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:09,799 Speaker 9: updates in real time. 903 00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:11,960 Speaker 4: Keep everybody in form. That's what I did. 904 00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:13,680 Speaker 10: There. 905 00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,920 Speaker 1: You have it, Clay. That is the absolute latest. 906 00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:21,960 Speaker 2: I think that this story hopefully is over again unless 907 00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,840 Speaker 2: there is more that has not been released from the 908 00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:28,280 Speaker 2: text exchange that they are going to continue to milk 909 00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:31,440 Speaker 2: at the Atlantic. So that is going on. There's also 910 00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:36,479 Speaker 2: this buck which is pretty funny. The NPR executive had 911 00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:40,040 Speaker 2: to testify on Capitol Hill today and I wanted to 912 00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:42,440 Speaker 2: play this for you because I was watching it. This 913 00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:46,640 Speaker 2: just happened earlier today during the show. The NPR exec 914 00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,400 Speaker 2: Catherine Maher. I think, I'm not sure how exactly you 915 00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:53,960 Speaker 2: pronounced her last name, but she has a history. I 916 00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:59,960 Speaker 2: remember seeing these of insanely woke, of insanely woke tweet 917 00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:04,080 Speaker 2: and she was confronted about them. This is about a 918 00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:07,960 Speaker 2: minute and a half. This is Congressman Brandon Gill of 919 00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:12,719 Speaker 2: Texas bringing up all of her old tweets about America 920 00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:15,840 Speaker 2: being addicted to white supremacy. 921 00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:18,600 Speaker 1: Why in the world are we giving any money at 922 00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,120 Speaker 1: all to NPR. Listen to what this sounded like. 923 00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:24,160 Speaker 8: Do you believe that America is addicted to white supremacy? 924 00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:28,160 Speaker 10: I believe that I tweeted that and as I've said earlier. 925 00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:30,600 Speaker 10: I believe much of my thinking has evolved over the 926 00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:31,520 Speaker 10: last half decade. 927 00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:33,839 Speaker 8: Do you think the white people should pay reparations? 928 00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:35,480 Speaker 10: I have never said that, sir. 929 00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:39,160 Speaker 8: Yes you did. You said it in January of twenty twenty. 930 00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:43,120 Speaker 8: You tweeted yes, the North, yes, all of us, Yes, America, yes, 931 00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:47,240 Speaker 8: our original collective sin and unpaid debt. Yes, reparations, yes 932 00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:47,879 Speaker 8: on this day. 933 00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:50,839 Speaker 10: I don't believe that was a reference to fiscal reparations, sir. 934 00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:53,000 Speaker 8: What kind of reparations was it a reference to. 935 00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:55,080 Speaker 10: I think it was just a reference to the idea 936 00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,560 Speaker 10: that we all owe much to the people who came 937 00:51:57,600 --> 00:51:58,080 Speaker 10: before us. 938 00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:01,560 Speaker 8: How much reparations have you for paid, sir? 939 00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,759 Speaker 10: I don't believe that I've ever paid reparations. 940 00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:06,879 Speaker 8: Do you believe that looting is morally wrong? 941 00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:09,759 Speaker 10: I believe that looting is illegal, and I refer to 942 00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:11,840 Speaker 10: it as counterproductive. I think it should be prosecuted. 943 00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:13,080 Speaker 1: Do you believe it's morally wrong? 944 00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:13,440 Speaker 8: Though? 945 00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:14,080 Speaker 10: Of course? 946 00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:17,280 Speaker 8: Of course, then why did you refer to it as counterproductive? 947 00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:20,680 Speaker 8: The very different, very different way to describe it. 948 00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:23,680 Speaker 10: It is both morally wrong and counterproductive, as well as. 949 00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,359 Speaker 8: Being be tweeted. It's hard to be mad about protests 950 00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:30,800 Speaker 8: in reference to the BLM protests not prioritizing the private 951 00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:35,160 Speaker 8: property of a system of oppression. You didn't condemn the looting, 952 00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:40,160 Speaker 8: you said that it was counter productive. NPR also promoted 953 00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:42,480 Speaker 8: a book called in Defensive Looting. Do you think that 954 00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:44,440 Speaker 8: that's an appropriate use of taxpayer dollars. 955 00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,880 Speaker 10: I'm unfamiliar with that book, sir, and I don't believe 956 00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:49,160 Speaker 10: that was at my tweeted that. 957 00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:49,960 Speaker 8: You read that book. 958 00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:57,080 Speaker 2: I mean, the level of whies these people are under oath, 959 00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:01,680 Speaker 2: you would think that they would be very well prepared 960 00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:05,040 Speaker 2: for being questioned about what they have said in public. 961 00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,200 Speaker 2: I just this has to happen this time. I know 962 00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:10,280 Speaker 2: people have been talking about it for a long time. 963 00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:13,680 Speaker 2: Why in the world does one red cent of our 964 00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:20,040 Speaker 2: tax dollars go to NPR. I've never heard anybody explain 965 00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:23,240 Speaker 2: to me why that makes sense. This show isn't funded 966 00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:27,520 Speaker 2: by the government, It's funded by our advertisers. We are 967 00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:31,240 Speaker 2: out here talking to a large audience because you respond 968 00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:36,040 Speaker 2: to us. We're competing within PR. Why would the government 969 00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:40,520 Speaker 2: be picking favorites and giving NPR millions and millions of 970 00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:44,919 Speaker 2: dollars to help subsidize their programming that otherwise can't pay 971 00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:48,840 Speaker 2: for itself, and we're not getting that same benefit, and 972 00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:51,799 Speaker 2: we shouldn't. Your taxpayer dollars shouldn't be coming to Clay 973 00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:55,719 Speaker 2: and Puck. We are advertisers, We've got a business. They 974 00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:59,200 Speaker 2: really it has to happen now because if they can't 975 00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:02,319 Speaker 2: shut off the fund funding spigot for NPR now, Buck, 976 00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:03,719 Speaker 2: they're never going to do it. 977 00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:06,319 Speaker 1: They're just going to keep talking about it forever. This 978 00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:12,080 Speaker 1: just becomes a spoils system that continues on with more 979 00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:16,920 Speaker 1: and more rapacious and greedy jockeying for access to the 980 00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:22,879 Speaker 1: government spoils until it's unsustainable mathematically, and then we have 981 00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:27,640 Speaker 1: a financial reset, perhaps a financial collapse. We really don't 982 00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,920 Speaker 1: want to go there. This has happened in other places 983 00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:34,359 Speaker 1: in other countries or nations and parts of history, and 984 00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:38,919 Speaker 1: it gets really ugly. We don't want that. So whether 985 00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,279 Speaker 1: anyone's willing to be serious about that now, it is 986 00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:43,759 Speaker 1: a mathematical certainty that that is what we will get to. 987 00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:48,239 Speaker 1: If we can take matters seriously now, we can prevent that. 988 00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:52,160 Speaker 2: Buck, here is we were having some fun. You and 989 00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:56,120 Speaker 2: President Trump have the exact same opinion on George Clooney. 990 00:54:56,200 --> 00:55:01,439 Speaker 2: This is on this very program July twelve, twenty twenty four, 991 00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,680 Speaker 2: the day before he was almost assassinated. You know, you 992 00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:08,080 Speaker 2: and I almost had the final interview with President Trump 993 00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:11,160 Speaker 2: if he had been shot on July thirteenth. This is 994 00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:16,400 Speaker 2: Trump calling George Clooney a third rate movie actor. Listen, 995 00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:19,279 Speaker 2: do you follow kind of this palace intrigue. It's really 996 00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:21,439 Speaker 2: kind of wild. In the two weeks since you knocked 997 00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:23,680 Speaker 2: him out in the debate, I mean, they have just 998 00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:25,440 Speaker 2: spun completely out of control. 999 00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:28,480 Speaker 1: And I've been reading that Barack Obama, George. 1000 00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:31,040 Speaker 2: Clooney comes out and says, hey, you got to drop out. 1001 00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:33,520 Speaker 2: Can you believe how much of a dumpster fire they 1002 00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:34,239 Speaker 2: are right now? 1003 00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:37,560 Speaker 6: Well, I thought George Clooney was very disloyal, because whether 1004 00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:41,479 Speaker 6: you like Biden or not, you know, he's been nice 1005 00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:45,320 Speaker 6: to Cloney. I thought it was very disloyal, backstabber, a 1006 00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:48,000 Speaker 6: third rate movie actor. He was a television actor and 1007 00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:50,680 Speaker 6: never made really a good movie, and. 1008 00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:52,879 Speaker 7: So he's sort of third rate. 1009 00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:56,160 Speaker 6: He goes as a movie actor pluck gable, he's not. 1010 00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:59,440 Speaker 6: And you know, but I thought it was a I 1011 00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:01,359 Speaker 6: thought it was a great act of disloyalty. 1012 00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:03,879 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have two things here, Clay. First of all, 1013 00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:07,000 Speaker 1: amazing recall from you. I did not remember this response 1014 00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,239 Speaker 1: from Trump. And then the second part of this is 1015 00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:12,640 Speaker 1: he's had so many other things one hundred percent cuts 1016 00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:14,840 Speaker 1: right to the heart of it. Spot on George Clooney, 1017 00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:21,279 Speaker 1: one of the most overrated actors of his generation, and 1018 00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:23,600 Speaker 1: Joe you on top of it. I love that you 1019 00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:26,520 Speaker 1: and Trump had the same opinion. So if I go 1020 00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:30,600 Speaker 1: see this Broadway play of George Clooney, you think I'm 1021 00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:35,759 Speaker 1: making an awful h a awful entertainment decision. I don't 1022 00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:37,840 Speaker 1: know Sidney Sweeney in it. I mean it depends with 1023 00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:40,319 Speaker 1: many factors. That's a good point. 1024 00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:46,080 Speaker 2: The comments on the Sydney Sweeney snow white idea are 1025 00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:49,720 Speaker 2: a gold mine if you want to be just laughing. 1026 00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:52,120 Speaker 2: We'll read a few of those for you when we 1027 00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:54,799 Speaker 2: come back. We'll also Caroline Levitt had a White House 1028 00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:56,840 Speaker 2: press briefing. By the way, I think Trump is doing 1029 00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:01,520 Speaker 2: a briefing press conference at for Eastern, So there's no 1030 00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:02,640 Speaker 2: talent how that's going to go. 1031 00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:07,359 Speaker 1: That's a podforn moment. Caroline was handling the press. Here 1032 00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:09,279 Speaker 1: we have it. We have a SoundBite for doing this 1033 00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:12,240 Speaker 1: just as we were all in the air. Let's see, uh, 1034 00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:14,120 Speaker 1: what kind of mood she's in today? Play it. 1035 00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:16,840 Speaker 8: Does the President feel that he was misled by his 1036 00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:19,280 Speaker 8: national security advisors, whoever it was that told him there 1037 00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:20,760 Speaker 8: was no classified information in there? 1038 00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:22,760 Speaker 2: Now that he's seen these messages. 1039 00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:25,160 Speaker 8: I've now been asked to answer this question three times 1040 00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:27,320 Speaker 8: by the both of you, and I've given you my answer. 1041 00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:29,600 Speaker 8: The President feels the same today as he did yesterday. 1042 00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:31,440 Speaker 10: Okay, phil And I'm sorry I might follow up on 1043 00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:31,880 Speaker 10: what you had. 1044 00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:34,280 Speaker 1: Just go ahead, Philip, I mean when I'm not taking. 1045 00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:35,920 Speaker 2: Your follow up, I have a follow on something you 1046 00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:36,880 Speaker 2: just said, though, Caroline. 1047 00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:39,840 Speaker 5: That's Caitlin regarding there for taking your follow up, Philip, 1048 00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:40,960 Speaker 5: go ahead, I have called you. 1049 00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:47,520 Speaker 1: Hey, look at that just there clapping it down. Caroline. 1050 00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:49,040 Speaker 2: You know, I spent a lot of time with Caroline 1051 00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:51,120 Speaker 2: over the weekend and Buck, you and I started having 1052 00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:53,120 Speaker 2: Carolina on the show, and she was running for Congress 1053 00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:56,000 Speaker 2: in New Hampshire and at the age of twenty six. 1054 00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,240 Speaker 1: We saw talent. We saw talent early. We even tried 1055 00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:01,120 Speaker 1: to be honest. We'll just say we're going to bring 1056 00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:03,760 Speaker 1: her into Clay and Buck podcast now it's at one point, 1057 00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:06,640 Speaker 1: and then they offered her the job of being campaign 1058 00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:08,520 Speaker 1: spokesman for Trump, and she's like, I think I gotta 1059 00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:10,160 Speaker 1: do that, and we're like, God, blessed, go do that. 1060 00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:12,960 Speaker 2: That's a good move, no doubt. And you know, she's 1061 00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,240 Speaker 2: got an eight month old. I feel like sometimes this 1062 00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:19,880 Speaker 2: just gets lost in the in the conversation. If there 1063 00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:24,720 Speaker 2: were a Democrat White House Press secretary performing as ably 1064 00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:28,920 Speaker 2: as right now Caroline Levitt Is and she had an 1065 00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:33,560 Speaker 2: eight month old baby, she would be girl boss slave queen. 1066 00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:39,040 Speaker 2: You would not be able to avoid positive coverage. And 1067 00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:40,640 Speaker 2: I saw I was reading the other day the Washington 1068 00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:44,680 Speaker 2: Post just ripped Caroline to shreds for working for Trump. 1069 00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:46,800 Speaker 2: I mean, I do think the double standards, Like think 1070 00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:49,320 Speaker 2: about how hard it for those of you, Buck, you're 1071 00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:50,560 Speaker 2: about to be in this boat. 1072 00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:53,919 Speaker 1: For those of you who have had you know. 1073 00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:59,280 Speaker 2: Infants, babies, Imagine having a baby while having one of 1074 00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:02,280 Speaker 2: the most ingy jobs in America. I really do think 1075 00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:05,320 Speaker 2: that's true White House Press secretary, where everybody is looking 1076 00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:09,520 Speaker 2: for every single word that you say, dissecting it, trying 1077 00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:12,520 Speaker 2: to rip you to shreds all the time, doing both 1078 00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:15,960 Speaker 2: those things so ably at the same time, and yet 1079 00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:19,960 Speaker 2: there's almost zero positive coverage about her Compared to if 1080 00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:22,680 Speaker 2: she were working at a Democrat administration, she would be 1081 00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:27,840 Speaker 2: one of the most praised people in all of the 1082 00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:31,400 Speaker 2: news media. It's just the disconnect between how she's being 1083 00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:34,560 Speaker 2: treated is pretty crazy, and I do think it's worthy 1084 00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:35,880 Speaker 2: of taking note for all of you out there. 1085 00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:39,600 Speaker 1: Caroline's killing it, doing a great job. Let me tell you, Buck, 1086 00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:41,120 Speaker 1: what was it? 1087 00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:44,560 Speaker 2: Thirty eight I got right and thirty seven you got 1088 00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:48,040 Speaker 2: right In the NCAA tournament so far, record right on 1089 00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:51,040 Speaker 2: his heels. I'm hot on his heels everyone. I've got 1090 00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:54,640 Speaker 2: a one game lead. Record ratings highest rated in CBA 1091 00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:57,960 Speaker 2: tournament since nineteen ninety two. Some are saying that's entirely 1092 00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:00,400 Speaker 2: because Buck Sexton has filled out a bracket. Have become 1093 01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:03,600 Speaker 2: aware that the NCAA Tournament now exists. People are watching 1094 01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:06,360 Speaker 2: it like crazy. Tomorrow starts to Sweet sixteen. I have 1095 01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:12,040 Speaker 2: got picks for all of you all right, here is 1096 01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:16,200 Speaker 2: the winner, Buck for prize picks. This is for Thursday 1097 01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:21,040 Speaker 2: and Friday. I believe Cooper Flag. They've got a free 1098 01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:23,040 Speaker 2: square for everybody. You have to do this in the 1099 01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:26,000 Speaker 2: first twenty four hours. Cooper Flag, best player for Duke, 1100 01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:29,160 Speaker 2: maybe the best player in the tournament overall. He's going 1101 01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:32,080 Speaker 2: to score more than one half point. You have to 1102 01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:34,320 Speaker 2: get this in the next twenty four hours. It is 1103 01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:37,520 Speaker 2: effectively a free square like on bingo. You can't lose 1104 01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:42,680 Speaker 2: that one then tomorrow, sorry Friday. Zachai Ziggler, point guard 1105 01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:45,840 Speaker 2: for Tennessee game against Kentucky. He's going to have more 1106 01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:48,840 Speaker 2: than eleven and a half points. And then Walter Clayton, 1107 01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:53,160 Speaker 2: Junior talented guard for the University of Florida, alma mater 1108 01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:56,000 Speaker 2: of Buck's lovely wife Carrie, he is going to have 1109 01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:59,440 Speaker 2: more than fourteen and a half points. If we are 1110 01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:03,640 Speaker 2: right about that, you will more than double your money. Again, 1111 01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:08,520 Speaker 2: Cooper Flag, Zechai Ziggler, Walter Clayton Junior all more. 1112 01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:10,720 Speaker 1: If you put in twenty. 1113 01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:13,919 Speaker 2: Dollars, you get back fifty two, so you will more 1114 01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:18,520 Speaker 2: than double your money. Get hooked up today pricepicks dot Com, 1115 01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:21,600 Speaker 2: Code clay. You can play in Texas, you can play 1116 01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:24,760 Speaker 2: in Georgia, you can play in California, forty states. Thirteen 1117 01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:28,360 Speaker 2: million people signed up. 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