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Speaker 1: This is How Men Think? And Gavin de grab and

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Speaker 1: I heard radio podcast. Welcome to another episode of How

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Speaker 1: Men Think. My name is brooks Like and I am

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Speaker 1: joined by three gracious co hosts today, two men from

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Speaker 1: the show and then one gracious co host who's actually

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Speaker 1: probably got more co hosting abilities than probably anybody I know.

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Speaker 1: Um what three co hosts today we have with us

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Speaker 1: Rick and Dmitri, the men of How Men Think? Good sirs,

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Speaker 1: how are you hello? Good good? How are you doing? That?

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Speaker 1: Looks that looks like a wonderful painting that you have

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Speaker 1: in the back there you've been just kind of throw

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Speaker 1: it over my shoulder and what happened? One of those?

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Speaker 1: Just all and then call it arts? Thank you? Um Dmitri,

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Speaker 1: how are you doing? Brother? I'm doing well, thank you.

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Speaker 1: I came down. I came down to the try to

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Speaker 1: give it a little more of a manly field that

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Speaker 1: I say. I got a work bench behind me, even

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Speaker 1: brought out the drill. I see the drill. Yeah yeah,

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Speaker 1: I rented all that for this. And then it has

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Speaker 1: to go back in about an hour received and then

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Speaker 1: we have a special guest with us today. He is

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Speaker 1: I actually kind of want to learn from him from

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Speaker 1: on how to co host a show? Um, if you

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Speaker 1: have a television, you have seen this man all over

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Speaker 1: it for sure an actor a host? Um man, I

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Speaker 1: could I'm looking at your bio here we have Dan

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Speaker 1: Cortes with us. Yeah, welcome. I don't have I don't

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Speaker 1: have a work bench and Dmitri, how about if I

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Speaker 1: just put the pencil behind my does that look like

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Speaker 1: let's do like, let's do two to three quarters? That

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Speaker 1: that works for me? Okay, And as far as anybody

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Speaker 1: can tell from now, you have a tool belt on,

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Speaker 1: we just do that's and that's all I'm wearing from

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Speaker 1: the way. So it's just a tool belt. And I

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Speaker 1: just don't have the accolades that you have in your

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Speaker 1: background to sign jerseys, to sign football, I don't have

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Speaker 1: that stuff. So I had to rent this. You know

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Speaker 1: what's great is none of that's mine. It's everybody else's signature.

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Speaker 1: It's not mine, So it's any words. Indeed, like I

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Speaker 1: when you popped on there, I was just like, that's

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Speaker 1: kind of what I want my home office to look like.

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Speaker 1: There you like a book with my face on it?

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Speaker 1: Like I see your book right there? Hey, I should

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Speaker 1: have saved it that that's my new book. But when

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Speaker 1: I initially started promoting the book, the publishers had kept

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Speaker 1: telling me like you needed why don't you have the

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Speaker 1: book and in the background of anything book because you

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Speaker 1: haven't sent me any So I literally took my older

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Speaker 1: son's NBA two K xbox game, printed out a piece

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Speaker 1: of paper that had the book ever and taped it

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Speaker 1: to it and would sit it back there and just

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Speaker 1: tell Pep it was the book. Yeah, awesome. Well dude,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get more into that book. But Um, I

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Speaker 1: want to get to your opinion. So Dan's coming on

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Speaker 1: as a respected gentleman UM who has some insight for us.

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Speaker 1: We had a Dan last week. We had a hot

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Speaker 1: topic on the how men thinks showing and uh Dmitri

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Speaker 1: and uh Rick weren't with us. Ryan was with us,

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Speaker 1: but producer Tory, our lovely producer, Um opened up about

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Speaker 1: her dating life and ask the question about should people

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Speaker 1: hook up on the first date? Yeah, should they hook

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Speaker 1: up on the first date? Is that frowned upon from

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Speaker 1: a guy's standpoint if the woman does that? Or is

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Speaker 1: it me you mean you're being a little churchgoer here?

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Speaker 1: You mean hook up as in have sex, go all

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Speaker 1: the way. Yeah, yeah, I guess I guess we should

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Speaker 1: clarify what um so the hell men think community has

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Speaker 1: just exploded. There's a wild debate going on right now.

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Speaker 1: Some people say yes, some people say no. Some people say, um,

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Speaker 1: they that yes, they absolutely judge somebody for going that

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Speaker 1: far on the first date. But I want to get

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Speaker 1: your guys opinions on this um As a gentleman going

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Speaker 1: out on a date, first date with the lady, Dan

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Speaker 1: will lead with you, what are you looking for on

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Speaker 1: a first date? And would you even pursue? Be honest? Brother,

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Speaker 1: be honest with you, would you even pursue physical conto

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Speaker 1: physical intimacy on the first date? Okay, being honest. If

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Speaker 1: you're a guy and you're attracted to someone, obviously that

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Speaker 1: But if you if there's some sort of compatibility. There,

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Speaker 1: You're going up to the pool, but you're not jumping in.

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Speaker 1: The question is would you judge a woman not? It's

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Speaker 1: not does a guy I want to have sex? Yes?

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Speaker 1: He does, So I'll say when I was younger, I

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Speaker 1: So when I was younger, I would think that that

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Speaker 1: and I've realized that, you know, but sured as much

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Speaker 1: as I probably can, and I've realized that there's so

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Speaker 1: much more to relationships than that. So to judge somebody

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Speaker 1: on feeling their way through life just doesn't make sense.

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Speaker 1: So I actually have a lot of friends or quite

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Speaker 1: a group of friends that have that did it on

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Speaker 1: for for a long time. So the question is what

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Speaker 1: I judge them? No, in the past, I may have,

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Speaker 1: but I don't think that should be a deal break. Okay, wait,

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Speaker 1: so the question was do you judge the woman not?

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Speaker 1: Does it cross my mind both both? Like if you're

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Speaker 1: going out on a date, like, let's be honest here,

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Speaker 1: So if I'm going on on a date, like you're

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Speaker 1: why you're going on a date with them. You're not

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Speaker 1: going on on a date with somebody you're not physically attract.

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Speaker 1: But are you trying to lead the night in that direction?

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Speaker 1: Or are you are you respectfully keeping a physical distance

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Speaker 1: in like honoring getting to know somebody, wanting to move

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Speaker 1: it in the physical element, like wanting to have sex

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Speaker 1: But I'm also with Dmitri. I think it's when I

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Speaker 1: was younger, I agreed the same thing. It was, Oh jeesus,

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Speaker 1: she's gonna sleep with me on the first day. Who

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Speaker 1: else has she slept with on the first date? But

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Speaker 1: then the same thing as you get older and I

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Speaker 1: don't know about wiser, but you just get older and

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Speaker 1: so have been around a little bit, you, you know,

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Speaker 1: before it gets to that point, if there's some sort

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Speaker 1: of made a similarity between us, Dan, but I guarantee

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Speaker 1: first date that would not have sex with me on

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Speaker 1: the first day. So appreciate question. I have a question,

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Speaker 1: Like m I wonder what she's going to think about

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Speaker 1: and what's gonna think? My my? In my perfect world.

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Speaker 1: When I was younger, I was a bit of a

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Speaker 1: my preference would have been to not do it on

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Speaker 1: the first date. But as I said, I've realized that

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Speaker 1: what you could have been taught maybe by your parents.

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Speaker 1: we had this, we shared this on her how Many

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Speaker 1: Things podcast community, and she said, if the chase is

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Speaker 1: after a lasting, loving, intimate relationship, then sleeping together soon

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Speaker 1: after meeting doesn't make a big difference. But if the

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Speaker 1: make a difference because the goal has been met. So, UM,

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Speaker 1: I agree with what Dmitri said, is I if I'm

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Speaker 1: going on a date, I'm going after the chase of

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Speaker 1: pursuing something longer term with this person. Um is how

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Speaker 1: just what you guys said, like how many other guys

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Speaker 1: end up with. I have a question. Let's say we're all,

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Speaker 1: wants to take it. Would you, as a guy then

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Speaker 1: you have enough money? No? You would? Are you guys

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Speaker 1: that groundwork had been laid, you know, those first few dates,

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00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,920
Speaker 1: phone dates out of the way, whatever. It's so when

427
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:15,439
Speaker 1: we did finally meet in person, it was like we

428
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:19,120
Speaker 1: already knew each other and knew so much about each other.

429
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,160
Speaker 1: M M, yeah, I get what you're saying there. Yeah,

430
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,000
Speaker 1: I remember. Wait, Brooks, have you had a bad first date?

431
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:28,159
Speaker 1: You brought that up. You must have one. UM. To

432
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:32,640
Speaker 1: be honest, I never dated much, truthfully, like I I've

433
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,280
Speaker 1: shared it on this show. From from twenty to thirty.

434
00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 1: I was full. I was full weighted career pursuit of

435
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,320
Speaker 1: hockey UM that governed every decision in the course of

436
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,679
Speaker 1: my day. And I had no balance, no counterbalance of

437
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:49,280
Speaker 1: social life. So I've dated very little. UM. But the

438
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,960
Speaker 1: dates I did go on, I just remember this like

439
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 1: I remember it being so f and painful. I would

440
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,320
Speaker 1: get on a date and five minutes into the date

441
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:05,879
Speaker 1: I didn't like the girl, you know, and I'm like, oh,

442
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 1: dear God, like all right, grinding here for another hour

443
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 1: and forty five minutes or something when all I want

444
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,199
Speaker 1: to be home is resting because we play tomorrow. And

445
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,639
Speaker 1: now I'm grinding away on this date with this girl

446
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,679
Speaker 1: and it's just not going anywhere. I know I'm not

447
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 1: gonna marry her. Just let me eat a steak and

448
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 1: you know, kind of just have a nice conversation. Did

449
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:31,439
Speaker 1: you ever create a situation to get yourself out of that? No? No,

450
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,680
Speaker 1: I did not. I have not. Just the other day,

451
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,120
Speaker 1: one of the best friends in l A said that

452
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:40,360
Speaker 1: her when she goes on a date, twice, she's had

453
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 1: her roommate call him because she'll they have a code

454
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:49,119
Speaker 1: where he she texts him and that means call and

455
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:53,400
Speaker 1: then she's like oh, or he texts He's like, oh,

456
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,639
Speaker 1: something just happened with my dog, and then he calls

457
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,440
Speaker 1: her right away and on speaker phone. She puts it

458
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 1: on speaker phone and he's like, hey, I'll let you

459
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 1: know that your dog is thrown up. Like what do

460
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 1: I do about this? Right in the kitchen, it's like yellow,

461
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 1: I don't know what I do. And then she's like ah,

462
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,119
Speaker 1: because then it's on speaker phone, right, it's not like, yeah,

463
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 1: it's legit according to anymore. Yeah, yeah, I just I

464
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 1: didn't say her name, so I haven't fully outed her.

465
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 1: But she does have a dog. Um, but I've never

466
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 1: pulled a stunt like that. Um. I think I would

467
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 1: just grind it through and then go home. Yeah. Um yeah,

468
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 1: I don't know. I can't. I can't remember me and

469
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,880
Speaker 1: I didn't go on many dates. I think too. If

470
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 1: you're if you're going creating a backup, like backup plan

471
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,399
Speaker 1: like that before you even go on the date, you

472
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 1: probably shouldn't go on the date to begin this. Yeah, exactly,

473
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 1: we're gonna come up with something that elaborate. And god forbid.

474
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 1: She's out one night and the guy she's on the

475
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,679
Speaker 1: date with goes, well, actually I'm a veterinarian. It's like

476
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:57,639
Speaker 1: the episode of is there a Marine Biologist? Actually there's yellow,

477
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:01,639
Speaker 1: that's just bio. It's fine, that fine, he probably ate

478
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 1: some grass. Let's enjoy the rest of our meal. I'm

479
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 1: happy to treat him. I'm more interested in the brainstorming

480
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,439
Speaker 1: session that's like, okay, now what if what colors? What

481
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 1: colors the bile? Let's go with yellow. Yeah. Producer Tori,

482
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 1: do you have any like horrific first date stories. I'm

483
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 1: trying to think I don't have like horrific, but I've

484
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 1: definitely had the dates where I'm like, please don't touch me,

485
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 1: please don't hold my hand. Um, oh, I do have one.

486
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 1: So I was I've talked about it on another podcast before,

487
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 1: but I went on a date with someone and we

488
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:39,919
Speaker 1: had like stayed in touch through college. He was at

489
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 1: Stanford and I was here and he was like, hey,

490
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 1: I'm like finally going to be in town. We had

491
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 1: like talked for like kind of on and off for

492
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 1: a long time. He's like, let me, can I take

493
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 1: you to breakfast lunched in or whatever you want? I

494
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, sure. It was before Father's Day, so

495
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 1: I was like, I'll do let's do like a breakfast

496
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:59,639
Speaker 1: or later lunch. And we get to the table and

497
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 1: we order food and like I got a latte, he

498
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:08,160
Speaker 1: just had water. And then we went to pay. And

499
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,399
Speaker 1: I am always the girl who like will offer to

500
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 1: like lay a card down. I feel like that's the

501
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 1: thing to do, which maybe you guys can comment on that.

502
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 1: Is it attractive? Does it feel like I'm making it

503
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 1: a friend zone moon move? I don't know, um, but

504
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:26,639
Speaker 1: I laid my car down and then he just split

505
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 1: it with me and I ordered or he ordered a

506
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 1: latte and I had water, So technically I paid more

507
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,920
Speaker 1: for him because he had a drink and I didn't.

508
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 1: What did that do for you? Were you? Like you asked?

509
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:43,159
Speaker 1: I was like, is this a date or is this not?

510
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,919
Speaker 1: But like we had like spent like a whole walk,

511
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 1: like we spent an hour prior. Then we got lunch,

512
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 1: and I was just like, yikes, I don't know what

513
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 1: this is. This is confusing. And then I but the

514
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 1: more I talked to people, they were like, you friend

515
00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,479
Speaker 1: zoned him by, or maybe he just thought you were

516
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 1: an independent woman and wanted to be an independent woman.

517
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 1: So he's like, I'm going to let her. If she

518
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: wants paid for half, I'll let her pay for half.

519
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 1: Maybe he felt he might insult you if he made

520
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: you do that, because what happened, But what happened after that?

521
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 1: Did he ask you out again? To point? Did he

522
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 1: ask you out again? Like we walked like I think

523
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,639
Speaker 1: he walked into my car, like we didn't kiss or anything.

524
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 1: So I was like, I guess we're just friends. Like

525
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 1: I'm so confused, and not saying that him not paying

526
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 1: for a bill, it just it just made me more.

527
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 1: I get it. The guy doesn't buy you water, you're

528
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 1: not hey, I get it. We just call me your

529
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:41,160
Speaker 1: sugar mama. Here I am buying your lawte's ten bucks

530
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 1: in l A. You know. So it's like, but in fairness,

531
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 1: the waters are seven, so okay, so gent's uh first

532
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 1: date or do guys pick up the tab? Do you split?

533
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 1: Is it the modern era where it's a split, right,

534
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: Like what happens in the first date? Who's paying for that?

535
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 1: Guys always do? I always and even like like I'll

536
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 1: even go to have go to Starbucks with my wife

537
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,479
Speaker 1: and she'll be like, here, I'll treat it. Just for

538
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,919
Speaker 1: some reason, I don't know it bothers me. I'm like,

539
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 1: just let me pay, like just I don't. I don't

540
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 1: know what it is. But first date, for sure, you

541
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 1: have to even if it's bad, even if you just yeah,

542
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 1: you have to pay even if it's bad. Maybe then

543
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 1: that's another way to just be like, hey, at least

544
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 1: I bought your dinner. It's fine. You know, it just

545
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 1: didn't work out for me. I agree. I think that

546
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 1: the one offer from the from the woman is nice.

547
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,479
Speaker 1: I would I don't ever in the past, I had

548
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 1: never let that um you know, when I was single,

549
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 1: I never let that deter me. I would always pay.

550
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 1: I would always be the gentleman and pay no matter

551
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 1: what um. The offer was always nice. If it was

552
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 1: a second offer or she insisted, then you start to

553
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 1: get that friend zone field. But I think it signifies

554
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 1: that it's an actual date. Yeah, if you if the

555
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: guy pays, yes, yeah, I agree, has has um. This

556
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 1: is just curious, Like Tori, what would happen if you

557
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 1: go on a date with a guy and the check

558
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 1: comes and the guy just chills. They're like, check comes,

559
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 1: he doesn't reach for his wallet, he doesn't like grab

560
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 1: it before you can grab it, like waiter, sets it

561
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 1: on the table, and the check just chills there. What

562
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 1: would happen? Well, that's kind of what happened on this date.

563
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: So I was like fiddling with my like wallet for

564
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 1: a bit, like I was like, am I gonna this? Like?

565
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 1: Am I gonna have an overdraft fee? Because I might?

566
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: And I was like okay, and then I like laid

567
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 1: it down and then he put his card on top

568
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 1: of mine. So ladies fidget for a couple of minutes

569
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: and hopefully he lays it first, and you're not in

570
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: my situation. That happened last time. Last time I went

571
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 1: out for drinks with Rick. That happened, okay, And he

572
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 1: didn't reach for it at all. I didn't even read

573
00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: my wallet. I knew it was going to be an

574
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 1: easy one. Let's wall it up north and get out

575
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 1: of persons. But I think that also goes to who

576
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: invited who is. It's similar to like a client lunch,

577
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 1: Like if you're taking out your client and he pulls

578
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 1: out his credit card, she pulls out his creit. It's

579
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 1: like no, no, no, like I got this, I invited you.

580
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 1: This is what's going on, and I will pay you know.

581
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: I feel the same way with the date, like if

582
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 1: you invited that person out or hey let's grab coffee. Okay,

583
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 1: you buy the coffee or at least damn near offered

584
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 1: to buy it. Unique question then, so because this doesn't

585
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 1: happen as often, um, Tory, Let's say you ask a

586
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 1: guy on a date. A woman asked the man on

587
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 1: a date. Is she then expected to pay red? Uh? No, No,

588
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 1: I think that he gets up to the gun. I

589
00:30:53,800 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 1: lost it. Tory is gonna call me out. You start

590
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 1: to a guys, so have to you see as Ricky's

591
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 1: dealing with a lot with his big toe and everything. Yeah, thanks, No,

592
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 1: I mean I've like I've I've opened about this, I've

593
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 1: like slid into d m s before. We're like, you've

594
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: approached people, but I've never been like you me, let's

595
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: go mm hmmm. So I've been asked out before and

596
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: the girl said, well no, I mean you know, I asked,

597
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: so let me get it. And I said no, no no,

598
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: I said, you asked. That was step on to step two.

599
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: Now this is my turn. Now I get to buy it.

600
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: So thank you? Well played good? Yeah? Yeah, And I

601
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 1: think I think if the girl or whoever asks should pay. No,

602
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 1: you just went literally literally just flip flopping. I feel

603
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 1: like I'm on an on ramp in Los Angeles right now.

604
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 1: Question for you because undoubtedly in your life you've been

605
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 1: asked out by a girl. Oh no, come on, yeah,

606
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 1: come on, Okay, So who pays? Well, I don't know.

607
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 1: You get asked out? And I have always it's feel

608
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 1: about that. Let's go with that. How do you feel

609
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 1: if the girl asks you out? Oh, if I like her,

610
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: that's great. Yeah. I don't think that's an issue. The

611
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 1: paying paying for the bill, I'm always I maybe it

612
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: was just the way I was raised. It's like the

613
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: man is supposed to pay so um. And also it's

614
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: like I get I don't know, it's it's almost um um.

615
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 1: If I'm not paying, I'd feel bad to like see

616
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 1: a waiter, see the woman put her credit card down

617
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 1: on me, just go alright, great, yesh. So even that

618
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: it just emasculates me. It's like, I just you know,

619
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 1: I think the guy should always pay, even if the

620
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 1: girl asks, ow, yeah, what if she like ordered surf

621
00:32:54,120 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 1: and turf and that doesn't but then let me see,

622
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 1: okay in the handbook, now you went, so you have

623
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 1: to at least split it. That's it. It doesn't matter

624
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:14,239
Speaker 1: who you're with. I get uncomfortable even like if we

625
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: were to if I were to go out with a buddy, right,

626
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 1: said Brooks. You and I go out and you get

627
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 1: like a steak and a lobster, and I get like

628
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: a cheeseburger, it's still uncomfortable to me to be like, well,

629
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 1: I mean you had I will split that right down

630
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: the middle, like there's just no haggling, Like it's it's

631
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 1: very uncomfortable. That's that's j V. That's like college, Like

632
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 1: I'm only on a strict budget, Like, dude, you got

633
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 1: chicken in your brito, I got steak. I'm a story

634
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: for this my very first pro meal. So when I

635
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Speaker 1: turned pro and we went out, we went to Philadelphia,

636
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Speaker 1: playing the game in Philly, and we went out for

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Speaker 1: supper as a team, and we had one guy on

638
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: our team he had just turned pro as well. He's

639
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: young guy had just turned pro as well. And you

640
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 1: haven't got your paychecks yet, like you're I was making

641
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 1: ninety buck every two weeks in junior hockey before I

642
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 1: turned pro, so like you're waiting for your paycheck. And

643
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 1: the very first meal, he orders like a club sandwich,

644
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Speaker 1: like a twelve dollars or we're at a nice restaurant,

645
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Speaker 1: steakhouse something. He gets like a club sandwich or something whatever.

646
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 1: It was ham and cheese, I don't know. And guys

647
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 1: have the steaks, flaming yawns, wine coming, whatever, and then

648
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: the bill comes and everybody just divvyes it up. That's

649
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 1: what the guys do, right, He says, twelve guys are

650
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 1: out for supper here it's uh hunter bucks each and

651
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: and he freaking loses his mind. He's like, what, like what,

652
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 1: I don't had a freaking club sandwiches twelve bucks. It

653
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 1: was his baptism to pro um, and he was pissed.

654
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 1: His face was read. He probably had to take out

655
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Speaker 1: a loan to pay for his supper that night. You

656
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,320
Speaker 1: know it would be great, ine, but see in hockey.

657
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: You know there's fighting in hockey. What would be great

658
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:57,800
Speaker 1: is if they would if he would have actually thrown

659
00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 1: hands at that point, like it would have been just

660
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 1: like a hockey match where then he's like, you know what,

661
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: I got a club sandwich and just starts hitting the

662
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 1: guy next to him, and it's just the two of them.

663
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: You gotta let him go. And then whoever takes the

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Speaker 1: guy down, then it's like, Okay, pulls his button down

665
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 1: over his head, just started weiling on him. And then

666
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 1: the local news that night as that scuffle broke out

667
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,320
Speaker 1: at the Master of steakhouse and I over a club sandwich.

668
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 1: But hey, all of us have that guy in our

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Speaker 1: friend group that are like that wants to divvy up

670
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 1: and split a nine person meal. It's like, I just

671
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 1: want my little segment and you can tell how they're

672
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 1: ordering too. Um. I had a buddy that used to

673
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 1: carry quarters in his wallet, so if it came down

674
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,879
Speaker 1: to like fifty cents, he tossed in the fifty cents

675
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 1: and it would make me soone comes out like just

676
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: every So what I would tend to do is be

677
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: like everybody just putting in what you think you will

678
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 1: and then I'm gonna pay the rest because it was

679
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: so uncomfortable to me. Would you at quarters at that point? Yeah,

680
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 1: this is still going on with these guys. It's gonna

681
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 1: be like years ago, right, hopefully. We also had one

682
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,399
Speaker 1: guy on our team who every meal he would put

683
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Speaker 1: it on his credit card and just take cash from

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Speaker 1: the other guys every single time. Every single time he

685
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: would put he's like, I got a boys put on

686
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: his credit card. The other guys will pay him eighty

687
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 1: bucks cash whatever. It was. End of the year, he

688
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,760
Speaker 1: had like just thousands and thousands of frequent Flyer mars,

689
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 1: like just he could fly all summer long. He was

690
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 1: just on a countrywide tour flying first class just courtesy

691
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: of what he put on his credit card for the

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00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 1: boys meals over the year into a gambling rehab. This

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Speaker 1: guy quite posibly. Isn't this nice to sit around and

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Speaker 1: talk about when we used to go to restaurants in

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00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 1: large groups? Right? So joining us now we Dr Neil Bart,

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Speaker 1: Are you with us? Neil, I'm I'm here, I'm here.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate coming on the show, my friend. You know

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Speaker 1: what I've of all of the of all of the

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00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: shows we've ever done. Reading your bio was like, like

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00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: Dan's bio was huge, but reading your bio was like

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00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: thirty pages. And I'm like, this guy, how is he

702
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:19,879
Speaker 1: a doctor and a producer like Harvard grad and all

703
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: of this stuff. And I've always been as as an

704
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 1: athlete and ex athlete, I've always been fascinated by people

705
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 1: who can cross over into multiple industries. And so your

706
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: your medical background is exceptional, but then what you've done

707
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 1: in the entertainment world is equally as exceptional. So I

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00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 1: look at you with just admiration, my friend, and I

709
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: appreciate you being on the show. Thanks a lot. I

710
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: used to come on right before us when you were

711
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: on Veronica's Closet and I was doing e ER. So

712
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 1: I've been following you for years. Yeah, Dan was on

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00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: Veronica's Closet. Dan, Yes, Dan, Sorry, I was looking at

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00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 1: Dan up here. Yeah, we're all looking at that. It's

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Speaker 1: a handsome not the truth. So Dr Neil, we have

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Speaker 1: a question for you. Rick's got a little bit of

717
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 1: a health issue going on um that he's been gracious

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Speaker 1: enough to open up and share with our our community

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Speaker 1: and our listeners, and and thank you for taking the time. First,

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00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 1: we want you to look at him and guess what's

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Speaker 1: wrong with him that. Sorry, go ahead, Dr Neil will

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Speaker 1: here to help. We're here to help Rick, and I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna read you just uh some text messages here, UM

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00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: and the guys. We're gonna get your opinion on why

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Speaker 1: guys are kind of terrified of the doctor. The doctor. Um.

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Speaker 1: But here's the text message from Rick's phone. Uh, says

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Speaker 1: e K G is all good, no issues, she thinks

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Speaker 1: gout on foot, but signed me up for a fluid pole,

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Speaker 1: which I'll probably cancel. It sounds horrible. Blood pressure is normal.

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Speaker 1: I'm just not getting enough sex, she said, uh, and

731
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Speaker 1: in the response was dude, get the flipping fluid pole.

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Speaker 1: This is a how men think episode. Women get mammograms, epidurals,

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Speaker 1: twenty whoms of blood drawn for each pregnancy. I mean,

734
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Speaker 1: come on, do it now, everything about your situation and

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00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: you're getting a colon exam this year, just trying to

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Speaker 1: protect you. And yes, I agree, not enough six, not

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Speaker 1: enough six just just yeah, thank you Brooks. This is

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Speaker 1: this is a text message between myself and my wife

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Speaker 1: right right, here's the contract. But whoever it was with? Um,

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Speaker 1: so what is this issue with gout do you have? Um? Um? So,

741
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 1: I about a month ago, I woke up going on

742
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Speaker 1: a fishing trip with my son up in Oregon, and

743
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 1: I woke up in my my left big toe just

744
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: started hurting and I wasn't walking right, and I just

745
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 1: took a bunch of ivyprofen, got in the car. We

746
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,879
Speaker 1: went on the whole fishing trip, and it just progressively

747
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,959
Speaker 1: got worse as we moved along. And so I called

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Speaker 1: a buddy of mine and I was actually one of

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00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: the guys, said, you know, I think you may have

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Speaker 1: gout like I had it in my finger and said

751
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 1: it was just this extreme paine and it absolutely. He's like,

752
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: are you eating red meat and drinking beer and and

753
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 1: all that? And I and I really don't drink all

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00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 1: that much, but I do eat a lot of a

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00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 1: lot of steak and ribs and things. Um, and I

756
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:16,879
Speaker 1: have been a little bit more so since COVID. But um,

757
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 1: liver do you eat liver? And oregan? No? Higher? And yeah,

758
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:28,320
Speaker 1: like cholesterol side of it in the problems that cause gaped,

759
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 1: but the crystallization, yeah, yeah, um so you can. Do

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00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 1: you drink a lot of water? I drink a ton

761
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 1: of water A ton of water. Yeah, so you know,

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Speaker 1: I think I'm all in favor of So it could

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Speaker 1: be gap, but it's only you've had it once. I've

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00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,959
Speaker 1: only had it once. And through the trip We've gone

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Speaker 1: for about a week and it just got worse and

766
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 1: worse and worse. And I couldn't even get I wear

767
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 1: like van slip bombs for the most part um and

768
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 1: I couldn't even get my foot into the into the

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Speaker 1: vans to do when I was bobbling around. It was

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Speaker 1: really it was swollen but not read. And you know,

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00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: I started googling it what was gout and they said

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00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 1: it's very red and it looks super ugly, and so

773
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, maybe it's knocked out. And I called a

774
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:15,320
Speaker 1: friend and they said that it was meta for metator

775
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,800
Speaker 1: soul filia or something along those lines. So yeah, it

776
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:20,879
Speaker 1: could be. It could be a lot of different things.

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00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,439
Speaker 1: So I'm I'm always a believer in you know, when

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Speaker 1: you have a problem going to a physician or a

779
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 1: physician assistant or a nurse practitioner and having a work up.

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00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 1: I did an episode once on The R where No

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00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 1: Wiley's character spent thousands of dollars because he was afraid

782
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: of missing something and and he he ended up finding

783
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: something so rare in this patient it paid off. But

784
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 1: typically we're not supposed to do that. It's like it's

785
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:50,879
Speaker 1: called shotgunning. The patient shot and the patient. But but

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00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:52,879
Speaker 1: you know, in your case, when was the last time

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00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 1: you had a physical exam and a full workup of

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00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 1: you know, blood, all the blood tests that you know,

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00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: testosterone that gets into the issues of sex because if

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00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 1: you have a low testosterone level, that can be addressed.

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00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 1: So I got your age, should you know, probably have

792
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 1: this testosterone checked and have a complete blood work up

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00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: and uh yeah, even so, and uh he was just

794
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 1: flexing in a plaid shirt like I don't know. And also,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's been interesting for me during COVID is that, um,

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00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:33,320
Speaker 1: I stopped eating sugar, which I love, So I love sugar.

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00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 1: So I stopped for the last three months, and I

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00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 1: feel a lot better. And I usually think it's kind

799
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 1: of you know, crap that people say that, but I

800
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 1: really do sleep better and I really do feel better

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Speaker 1: and I have more energy. So I have had literally

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00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 1: no sugar. I like, look at labels and all that.

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00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 1: So I'm I'm, I'm do you drink soda. Yeah, okay,

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00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 1: I each your class. I'm glad. I'm glad I asked you. So.

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00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 1: I just thought, of course, at Harvard's Kennedy School of

806
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 1: Government called soda politics, and I love it when somebody

807
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,800
Speaker 1: says they drink soda, because then I can scare the

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00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: hell out of them and say there was a study

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00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: done of men who drink one sweet and soda a

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00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 1: day and it had an end or the number of

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00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 1: participants was in tens of thousands. Was published in the

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00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,399
Speaker 1: journal Cardiology, and it showed that men who drink one

813
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 1: sweetened soda day one soda is sugar, not diet soda,

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00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 1: had increase in heart disease. So if you do anything

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Speaker 1: besides there's two things. As a physician, I recommend don't

816
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 1: smoke cigarettes because we just know it takes years off

817
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 1: your life. And two, don't drink soda. Drink water because

818
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 1: there we have so many studies now that show that

819
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:56,320
Speaker 1: is harmful for men and women, but it's particularly harmful

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00:43:56,360 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 1: for men. What we think happens is that um, the

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00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 1: high fruit toast corn syrup in the soda um, when

822
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 1: you consume it goes directly into your bloodstream. It causes

823
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:13,240
Speaker 1: fatty liver and also the liver processes to hide fruit

824
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 1: toast corn syrup in such a way that it raises

825
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 1: your triglycerides. So if you could do some things to

826
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 1: improve your health, you know, without really like harming your lifestyle,

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00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 1: I would say the first thing to do would be

828
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: to not drink soda and cut Sure, you know you

829
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:32,800
Speaker 1: don't have to cut all sugar out of your life,

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00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 1: but just not drinking soda has a huge impact on

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Speaker 1: people i've seen. Dr Neil. Thank you for your time.

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00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 1: I appreciate we'd love to have you back sometimes. Thanks. Sorry,

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00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: get your tested Yeah yeah, I know, the big old

834
00:44:49,560 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 1: needle out. Anyway, Dan, I appreciate your time. Worries, this

835
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: is a good time. Get me into uh, give me

836
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,359
Speaker 1: into your book. Here this I'm being like a karate kick.

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00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,479
Speaker 1: They're coming off the cover because yeah, that's the actual book.

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00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 1: It's called. It's called Step Off My Journey from Membo

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00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,359
Speaker 1: to Manhood, And I'm gonna cut you off real quick

840
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: and then you can get back to it. My fav

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00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:21,879
Speaker 1: the title is my favorite because people know Dan from

842
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 1: whatever you know, uh from uh MTV uh and all that.

843
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:29,320
Speaker 1: But anybody that hasn't figured it out. Yet he is Tony,

844
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 1: the male membo from Seinfeld clients take iconic episode, and

845
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 1: he kept the famous line was step off. So anyway,

846
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 1: I'm sorry that the title alone sells well and even

847
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:41,800
Speaker 1: where how we came up with that. I was approached

848
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 1: to write the book, and I'll make this quick. I

849
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 1: was approached to write the book, and this guy that

850
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 1: approached me to write it kept saying I wanted to

851
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:48,919
Speaker 1: be Dan. I wanted to be more Dan. I wanted

852
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:50,959
Speaker 1: to be positive. I wanted to be so, I said,

853
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 1: I don't you know. We had never met in person.

854
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:54,959
Speaker 1: We had spoken on the phone a few times. I said,

855
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be a jerk, but I want

856
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 1: to know, like, what do you think I would be

857
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 1: like in Purse? And because you keep saying you wanted

858
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 1: to be more Dan, I don't know what the hell

859
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: you're talking about. And he said what he had asked

860
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,879
Speaker 1: around the publishing house, he goes in as a whole,

861
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 1: we kind of think you'd be a lot like the

862
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 1: character you played on Seinfeld. And then he went on

863
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,399
Speaker 1: to say all these nice things about me. But all

864
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 1: I heard is Dmitri said, all I heard was he

865
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 1: called me a membo, a male bimbo, and that's all

866
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 1: I heard. So as he was saying all these other

867
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 1: flattering things, I said, I'll write the book. I want

868
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 1: to write the book. And he's like, why, it's because

869
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 1: I think there's so much more to me than that.

870
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 1: So but I told him, I said, I want the

871
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 1: title to be my journey from Membo to manhood. So look,

872
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,839
Speaker 1: I hope that's what achieved. I achieved throughout the story,

873
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: because I even right in the introduction, if this it's

874
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 1: Membo to manhood, I hope If it's just Membo two

875
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: older Membo, that wouldn't be good. We just need to

876
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,720
Speaker 1: make sure that we get to the manhood part um.

877
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:52,359
Speaker 1: But it was it was really um. Just writing it

878
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 1: was a cathartic experience for me because like as guys,

879
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 1: you know, it's I wanted it to be sort of

880
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:00,760
Speaker 1: this journey of taking my life as a as a puzzle,

881
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,879
Speaker 1: tearing it all apart, and then taking the stories that

882
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 1: really seemed inconsequential that for some reason, I remember this

883
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 1: Little League story from when I was ten, I don't

884
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,760
Speaker 1: know why, and I sort of took all those stories

885
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 1: from my life and sort of pieced it back together

886
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 1: to see if that puzzle still looks the same that

887
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,839
Speaker 1: I think it does, because I said, truthfully, the way

888
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 1: I think of myself, the way other people think of me,

889
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 1: and the way I think other people think of me

890
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 1: are three entirely different things. So I at least want

891
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 1: to know I am who I am by the end

892
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 1: of this. So that's sort of the And the book's

893
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 1: broken down into three parts, my foundation, fame, and fatherhood.

894
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:38,720
Speaker 1: And I was telling somebody the other day, so truthfully,

895
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 1: the hardest part for me to write was the fame part,

896
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 1: because the publishers wanted, we want stories about being an actor,

897
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm not going to sit there

898
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 1: and write, well this one time when I was on

899
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 1: the set with Curts the alley we did, I didn't

900
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 1: want it to be that, so you know, I tried

901
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:59,720
Speaker 1: to And another thing I told them also, each chapter

902
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 1: I'm writing it basically for guys, I don't want to

903
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 1: read a chapter that's longer than five pages, like, let

904
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 1: me be able to read that at five And so

905
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 1: my chapters are short. They're anecdotal stories about this point

906
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: in my life. This got me to this, and it's

907
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 1: let's put a little bow on the end of you know,

908
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 1: every story, and here's what I learned from it. So um,

909
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,320
Speaker 1: it was a lot of fun. It was a great

910
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:24,959
Speaker 1: cathartic experience. And yeah, there's some there's some Seinfeld story

911
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 1: and there the whole Even the way I got that gig,

912
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,479
Speaker 1: I got a call from my manager who then said

913
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:33,919
Speaker 1: it's when I was working for MTV, said, Larry uh

914
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 1: David and Jerry Seinfeld want to meet with you. They

915
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 1: they I thought I was auditioning for the show was

916
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,359
Speaker 1: my favorite show at the time. So I go in

917
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 1: and it was in the afternoon that afternoon and they're

918
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:47,320
Speaker 1: sitting in there, just the two of them, and so, okay,

919
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,399
Speaker 1: this is great. We sit there and shoot for ten

920
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:51,840
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes, and then I was like, what my do

921
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: you guys have sides? What do you want me to read?

922
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 1: And Larry just goes, no, I just need to see

923
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 1: if you can put two words together. So we'll see

924
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 1: you tomorrow. We're starting tomorrow. And so that was sort

925
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 1: of how that. I was like, Okay, so I got

926
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 1: the job. They're like, yeah, you got the job, so um,

927
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,840
Speaker 1: and but what a what a great experience that was,

928
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 1: And just you know, to meet your as what you

929
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 1: know just from working with comedy pros, like when you

930
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,800
Speaker 1: get there. There was no ego there. That was Larry's

931
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 1: whole thing and Jerry as well. They just wanted whatever's funniest,

932
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:25,879
Speaker 1: say it, whatever's funniest, just do it. And if they

933
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:27,800
Speaker 1: had told me a story about there was one episode

934
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 1: of Seinfeld where the episode where Jerry couldn't remember his

935
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:33,320
Speaker 1: girlfriend's name, but he remembered it rhymed with a female

936
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 1: body part and he couldn't remember, couldn't remember, and the

937
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 1: writers were having trouble coming up the joke wasn't landing,

938
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,359
Speaker 1: so on the in front of the odysse at night,

939
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 1: couldn't come up with the so the warm up guy

940
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 1: had asked the honest, does anybody have a joke that

941
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,320
Speaker 1: maybe they could use her? What's a what's a female

942
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 1: name that rhymes the body part? And some guy in

943
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:54,320
Speaker 1: the crowd said mulva and the crowd erupted and laughed,

944
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:57,760
Speaker 1: and Larry said that use that, Okay, writer, stop writing,

945
00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:59,919
Speaker 1: just use that, And I said it's funny. I told

946
00:49:59,920 --> 00:50:01,799
Speaker 1: my wife again. You know there's some guy like at

947
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 1: a bar in Milwaukee that sits at the end of

948
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 1: the bar. You know that episode that was me came

949
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 1: up with that, I was Mova, that was my idea.

950
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 1: That's the that's the brilliance of it, though. They that's

951
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 1: why the show was so successful because they do you

952
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:19,919
Speaker 1: want the best. When the egos get involved, then it's like, well,

953
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 1: now you're not going for the best product, You're just

954
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 1: going for the best. Congratulations. And you know, luckily because

955
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 1: that episode, the one, the one when you were on

956
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:31,399
Speaker 1: you stole a lot of scenes in that in that

957
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 1: and so when people reference that episode, they're all referencing

958
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 1: you the and and you know what, I had no

959
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:39,839
Speaker 1: clue what the hell I was doing. Sometimes, I mean

960
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 1: I even and I've never really told anybody this other

961
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:44,800
Speaker 1: than my wife. I watched that episode. Sometimes when I

962
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,439
Speaker 1: see it a rerun and I cringe, I'm like, oh

963
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 1: my god, I'm so bad. This was so bad. And

964
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 1: people I'll meet people that are going, oh, the way

965
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 1: you created the character and I was just trying to

966
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:58,880
Speaker 1: remember the lines. That was the first. That was the

967
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:02,839
Speaker 1: first sitcom m I had ever done. I've done dramas before,

968
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 1: but that was the first sitcom. And of course I'm

969
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 1: working with the the uh, you know cast of Seinfeld.

970
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 1: I was so nervous. It was just like so you know.

971
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 1: And the weird thing about that too, that show, for

972
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,720
Speaker 1: the longest time was one of their highest rated shows,

973
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 1: and that I would always tell people it was because

974
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 1: of me, but it was apparently nothing else was ever

975
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 1: on after that. It wasn't until like their super Bowl

976
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 1: episode that for some reason that that sort of stayed

977
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 1: up there. But yeah, you do an episode of sign

978
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 1: for when like the show I did for MTV for

979
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 1: six years, when our first two years we were there

980
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 1: number one show in the world's seventy two countries, and people,

981
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 1: would you know, they'd recognize me. The day after the

982
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:45,319
Speaker 1: Seinfeld episode aired, I was in Hollywood for a cast

983
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:48,760
Speaker 1: physical for shows doing in Vancouver and I got recognized

984
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:50,799
Speaker 1: walking out of the doctor's office to my car. Some

985
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 1: guy yelled and called me a membo. I said, it's

986
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 1: the difference between the power of network television and the

987
00:51:56,840 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 1: number one show on television and basic cable percent. And

988
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 1: that's why I interrupted you before, because if you were

989
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 1: to say step off to somebody right now, that is

990
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 1: exactly where their mind will go. They're like, oh, step off.

991
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:11,799
Speaker 1: Oh I gotta make some people of sandwiches. They'll stot

992
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 1: just rattling off random lines from that episode, and then

993
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 1: those two words, which is why it's a perfect title.

994
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 1: Those two words bring people straight to that well. And

995
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 1: the weird thing with that too was they had they

996
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 1: had a line because I've been given credit for writing

997
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 1: that line step off. I didn't write it. I didn't

998
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 1: go to Larry David and say I want to a

999
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 1: line change. It was the guy in the audience. They

1000
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 1: had a joke that wasn't landing, and then they were

1001
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:38,840
Speaker 1: trying to come up with something. So then Larry asked me,

1002
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 1: he goes, you were like twenty three, you work on MTV.

1003
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 1: What do you what would kids your age say? And

1004
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:45,959
Speaker 1: I don't even that was like the second or third

1005
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 1: thing I said that I said was step off. And

1006
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 1: then Jason Alexander said it with his George Costanza you

1007
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 1: know New York accent, and the crew laughed. So then

1008
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,800
Speaker 1: Larry was like, yeah, just say step off. That works. Wow,

1009
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:01,839
Speaker 1: these these little stories are so cool awesome. Yeah, that's

1010
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 1: all I got. Those are the only two stories I got.

1011
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 1: It's only four bags, dude. One quick question, because I've

1012
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 1: I've been asked about possibly doing a book. Um, and

1013
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 1: had a conversation about it, and off, do you think

1014
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 1: that's good? Um? What did you learn about yourself in

1015
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 1: doing the book? Oh so much? And I'm not just

1016
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 1: saying that it's you should do it. If you have

1017
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:30,240
Speaker 1: the opportunity to do it, you should do it, because

1018
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 1: you know, you make your notes. Here's okay, here's what

1019
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:35,360
Speaker 1: I want the book to be. Here's what But it

1020
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 1: sort of takes a life of its own. And um,

1021
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 1: as I said, it's it's anecdotal stories about my life,

1022
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 1: where I where I came from, and who I've become.

1023
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 1: But it it almost, at least for me, almost took

1024
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 1: on a spiritual thing in the third portion of the

1025
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 1: book for me and talking about parenthood and my life

1026
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 1: and and who I've become now. And I didn't really

1027
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 1: initially plan on that to me, um, when I first

1028
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 1: started out writing the book, but I sort of you

1029
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 1: got into this and saw what journey it was taking

1030
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 1: me on. So you know, if nothing else, I mean,

1031
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:13,360
Speaker 1: even if you're not going to publish it, do it

1032
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 1: because you learn a lot of stuff about yourself. If

1033
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:20,240
Speaker 1: you're gonna be completely honest with the readers and yourself

1034
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 1: to write it, um. And I think that's the only

1035
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 1: way to do it, because then if not, then you're

1036
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 1: just like, Okay, well what stories should I right now?

1037
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 1: And you're trying to be um, but you know it's

1038
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 1: to me too. I in reading a book that you

1039
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 1: would write, I'd want to hear all those stories that

1040
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear about when you scored a

1041
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,799
Speaker 1: game winning goal and oh then we what did you know?

1042
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:45,240
Speaker 1: You want to hear all those other nuances that people

1043
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 1: wouldn't know about. And um, sook a little bit that

1044
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 1: I've dug into it. It is and I've done I've

1045
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 1: done presentations for sportsmen's dinners and stuff like that. When

1046
00:54:56,160 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 1: I do the presentations of like my hockey journey. Um,

1047
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,800
Speaker 1: there's certain things that I learned that I never knew

1048
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 1: just in like you said, taking little segments of your life,

1049
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 1: and when you line these up, you're like the first

1050
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 1: one I did, I'm like, holy, I learned I was

1051
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:14,319
Speaker 1: I was responsible for very little of my success. Yeah,

1052
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god. The people that have

1053
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 1: touched my life from the age of thirteen, fifteen seventeen,

1054
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:23,280
Speaker 1: nineteen twenty four, all of these people down this list

1055
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 1: have all elevated me in some way that I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I'm not anywhere without all of these people, Like I'm

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00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:32,280
Speaker 1: responsible for ten percent of my success. So in doing

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00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 1: your journey, if even and somebody to even just encouraged

1059
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 1: me to do it. A friend encouraged me to do it.

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00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 1: Sit down and write your book to understand yourself, and

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00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 1: then if you want to publish it or you want

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00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:45,320
Speaker 1: to do something with it, do it. But just the

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00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 1: process of sitting down to write that you'll really find

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Speaker 1: a lot and learn a lot about yourself. So that's

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00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 1: why I asked that questions you should and you touch

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00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 1: upon people that are responsible for it. I even get

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00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 1: to that in the book where it's my brother, My

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00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 1: oldest brother, he's ten years older than me, went out

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Speaker 1: one night. He likes to go out as much as

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Speaker 1: any everybody, but doesn't. He's more of the like, I'll

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Speaker 1: stay home, doesn't really drink. That one out one night

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Speaker 1: when I was still in high school, to a bar

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Speaker 1: he'd never been in before in our hometown and hasn't

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Speaker 1: been in since, and saw a guy he went to

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00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 1: high school with. That guy said, what's going on with

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00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 1: the family? He said, Oh, Dan's a quarterback for the

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00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 1: high school. He goes, oh, I'm a graduate assistant coach

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Speaker 1: at University North Carolina. Haven't sent a tap there. I

1079
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:29,840
Speaker 1: send the tate the University of North Carolina. I get recruited.

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Speaker 1: I got a University of North Carolina. My senior year

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00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:34,959
Speaker 1: in North Carolina, I meet a producer from MTV because

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00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 1: Janet Jackson was in concert there. I keep that guy's card.

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00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:39,879
Speaker 1: I moved to l A after graduation. Call that guy.

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00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 1: He hooks me up with a person in l A

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00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 1: working for MTV. That in turn, I start working as

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00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:46,720
Speaker 1: a p A at MTV. I'd hand in the treatment

1087
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Speaker 1: for MTV Sports. I'm the host of MTV Sports the Resident,

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00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 1: and I always saw my brother. I'm like, if you

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00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 1: never went to that bar that night and saw Phil, Like,

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00:56:57,400 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 1: what journey? What would have happened with me? You know,

1091
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:03,400
Speaker 1: entire journey culminated with being on the How Men Think podcast?

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00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 1: Exactly if your brother doesn't go to the bar, we're

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00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 1: not sitting here today. That's right, that's right, we are.

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00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:13,799
Speaker 1: We are the cherry on top. I can tell you Dan,

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Speaker 1: when you said it's a it's a journey of self exploration,

1096
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 1: exploration Brooke. I mean, you couldn't pick better keywords for Brooks.

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00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 1: His eyes lit up as soon as we sign off.

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00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 1: Now he's gonna take out his typewriter, slacking all the

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00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 1: thing started. But I'm telling Dmitri the fact that you

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00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 1: even said typewriter is beautiful. I did that on purpose.

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00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 1: I'm trying to make fun of you for being in

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00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 1: like a log cabin. Uh. Dan, I appreciate your time

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00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 1: on your insight. Thank you so much, Thanks so much.

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00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 1: Where can our community find you? Where do you spend

1105
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 1: most times social social media at Dan Cortez on Instagram

1106
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 1: and Twitter. Um, you can go. I have a website.

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00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 1: This you guys appreciate this. The website, though, is the

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00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 1: Dan core Tes dot com. Not didn't Cortes dot com

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00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 1: not because it's not available. It is. I didn't want

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00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 1: to pay grand for it, so that Dan Cortes. I'm

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00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 1: paying a dollar ninety nine a month for the damn

1112
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 1: Cortes that I told you I'd give it to you

1113
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 1: for twenty there like a big deal when you have

1114
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:21,440
Speaker 1: the in front of it, you know, or just I'm

1115
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 1: saving a hell of a lot of money, So I'm

1116
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 1: doing that instead but yeah, I'm on the social there

1117
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 1: and then you know, order the book on Amazon where

1118
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 1: everybody you can go through the website. But I'm pretty active,

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00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 1: you know. But it's funny because I've had people even

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Speaker 1: talk to me about my Instagram go, yeah, it's dude,

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00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 1: really exciting to post pictures of your baby and your

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00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 1: kids and your wife and sunsets. I'm like, yeah, what

1123
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 1: are you supposed to? No selfies? Are you know? No selfies?

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00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 1: I got nothing, nothing really good? What do you say

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00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 1: though that the book? I'm like, I'm telling people the

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Speaker 1: book is like you're gonna learn a lot about Dan

1127
00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 1: reading it and cool stories like that, but it's it's

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Speaker 1: it's actually more than that. And as he was saying,

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00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 1: like the self exploration and stuff like that, you're gonna

1130
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Speaker 1: learn stuff about yourself and you're gonna you're gonna think.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna make you think about other things. It's not

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Speaker 1: just I want to read about Dan or I don't

1133
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 1: want to. There's a lot in it um and so

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Speaker 1: I yeah, I recommend it to anybody, but I appreciate

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Speaker 1: that de Maitri And you know what, truthfully to that

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Speaker 1: was important for me was I didn't want to write.

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00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 1: It's not a tell all. I don't want to write

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Speaker 1: a book just about me. I even told them. I

1139
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 1: want to write something that I hopefully think readers can

1140
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 1: relate to and sort of see their own lives within

1141
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 1: it and maybe see similarities there with certain things they're

1142
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Speaker 1: going through. So thank you. I appreciate that super cool

1143
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Speaker 1: books called step Off. Grab a copy for it. Um

1144
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 1: My man, I appreciate you. We'd love to have you back. Yeah,

1145
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 1: and uh, I wanna just hear more from you at

1146
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 1: another time about co hosting and host hosting. We'll talk

1147
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:53,200
Speaker 1: about that. But we also need to have Dr Neil back.

1148
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 1: And we should have asked him about having sex on

1149
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Speaker 1: the first date. Come on, he did it. He did

1150
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 1: it for sure, Yeah, totally, he's a doctor. Come on,

1151
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 1: one of those e er stories, are you kidding? As

1152
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 1: soon as he dropped, as soon as he dropped a

1153
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 1: clooney nuggets, Yeah, it's done deal. I appreciate all of

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Speaker 1: you guys and our listeners. I appreciate all of you

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Speaker 1: guys as well. That Brooks. I'll come help you with

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01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 1: your book as soon as I'm writing a book. From

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01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 1: the opinion from the view of Rick's Big Toe so

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Speaker 1: when I'm done with that, I'll come up to where

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Speaker 1: you're having. Yeah, have you seen Rick. He's been laid

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Speaker 1: back in that chair the whole time. On the guys,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you, Dan, I appreciate you. I love to

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01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 1: have you back on some time, my friend. So until

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01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 1: next week, everybody, take care of one another, love one another,

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Speaker 1: and we'll see you back here for another episode of

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