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Speaker 2: Look at us now. Tip to Tim. This is our life,

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Speaker 2: this is our passion. That's the spirit we bring to

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Speaker 2: this show. I'm Luke Thomas, I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 1: This this Morning Combat. Well, hello there everybody. It is

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Speaker 1: the fifteenth or halfway through the month of November twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty one, and it's time to start your Monday. The

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Speaker 1: only way that it matters, it's with MK. Hi everyone,

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Speaker 1: welcome to Morning Combat. I'm one half of your hosting duo.

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Speaker 1: My name is Luke Thomas. I'm from CBS Sports and

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Speaker 1: I'm in the capitol of the status anitos right here

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Speaker 1: in Washington, d C. We are joined by the Viceroy

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Speaker 1: of Connecticut. He was once king, but then Leverick became

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Speaker 1: down a little bit. I apologize, but he is. He

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Speaker 1: is here in all parts. It's Brian Campbell. What's up, dude?

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Speaker 2: Did you just compare me to Ruin Hako of the

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Speaker 2: Trade Federates from episode one?

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Speaker 1: Lucas and all those dudes all die the most fucking ignoble,

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Speaker 1: sad deaths, So I'm sorry about that, But yes, Hi, BC,

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Speaker 1: how are you.

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Speaker 2: That's the one thing George Lucas did not steal from

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Speaker 2: doing or cursawwa. Thank you George. I'm doing good, Luke.

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Speaker 2: I'm washed as shit as you already know. Uh went

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Speaker 2: drinking in the parking look good times, great oldies. Your

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad you got a chance to go. We

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Speaker 1: have a lot to get to today, Max versus Ya

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about that. We have some Bell Tour Cyborg results,

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Speaker 1: I don't know where it is with us bribing you

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Speaker 2: This seems like a very empty and broken promise, like

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Speaker 2: when OJ said he's going to dedicate the rest of

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Speaker 1: Luke yes, or when we promised that we had a

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Speaker 1: very easy way for you to get cash on the weekend.

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Speaker 1: Either one of those. Probably not that sincere Also, BC,

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Speaker 1: we have merch. In fact, I'm wearing some of our

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Speaker 1: popular merch. I'm not sure if you are. I can't

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Speaker 1: quite I don't think so. But you can go get

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Speaker 1: some at Morningcombat Dot Store BC. You can get drug rugs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you can. Yeah, yeah you can. All right, Wow,

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Speaker 2: look you sound washed too. This is great.

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Speaker 1: No, you're worse than me. You woke up and like

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Speaker 1: I feel like death. I just had a sick kid yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Also, I also cleaned the gutters on Saturday and the

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Speaker 1: Luke, Well, I'm very sorry to hear that they're asking

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Speaker 2: right now. On Amazon Prime, you can rent Pacino's entire

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Speaker 2: Probably because he's the best actor of our lifetime.

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Speaker 1: Probably he's pretty goddamn good. Hard to find a movie

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Speaker 2: Believe can't say the same about Jasmine Saint Clair though, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I love the show, Luke. This really, this is

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Speaker 1: All right, BC, let's start with the UFC if we

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Speaker 1: can topic number one, Max Holloway versus yah Ai Rodriguez.

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Speaker 1: start with you did Max prove? Because I had some

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Speaker 2: he's gonna fight for the title tomorrow. But this was

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Speaker 2: I could not stop harping on Max's chin. I think,

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Speaker 2: Yair was that zoned in. Can he can he can

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Speaker 2: the super elite level? Not yet, But Luke tell me

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Speaker 2: about how Max adjusted to this and won the fight.

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Speaker 2: And I think the all the fuel for that is

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I definitely feel like there's something to

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Speaker 1: I thought his overall performance was highly commendable. He pushed

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Speaker 1: Max takes a lot of punishment, A lot of punishment.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we knew this ahead of time. His strikes

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Speaker 1: telling you, at twenty nine he's getting away with it.

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Speaker 1: But dude, by the time he's thirty three thirty four,

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Speaker 2: To jump in real quick, I do agree with the

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Speaker 2: don't know if it's gonna be as drastic off the

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Speaker 2: it's gonna go. I think we agree with that. But

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Speaker 2: do you believe that Max is taking too much punishment

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Speaker 2: in general, or that he just took too much punishment

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Speaker 2: in this fight, Because if I'm gonna point to one

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Speaker 2: criticism of Max, is I think maybe he underestimated yea year.

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Speaker 2: I think he thought he was gonna be able to

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Speaker 2: stand right in front of him, you know, swivel out

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Speaker 2: of the way land big shots use the volume like

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Speaker 2: he did to Cater. I mean, look, he's coming off

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Speaker 2: Luke a b de performance at all time, just complete

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Speaker 2: you know, I mentioned on the post fight recap that

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Speaker 2: I thought in the second Rom's start to get a

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Speaker 2: little nervous. Is Max's gonna run into something that he

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Speaker 2: can't that he can't shake off. Do you feel it's

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Speaker 1: These are all good points. What I would say in

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Speaker 2: Right in a key, A real key to this fight

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Yeah, I guess you're right.

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Speaker 1: Well, he would clinch at certain times when he would

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Speaker 1: he's still at the top of this division. Let's talk

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Speaker 2: Believe there are very now. Look, the Poitier fight is

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Speaker 2: you know, intention and have enough variety of his game

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Speaker 2: I mean, look, as much as we can say, is

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Speaker 2: catching up? Okay? Cool, but Luke. How many others could

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be more of a chess match. It's not

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Speaker 1: That totally, one hundred percent agree on every point. I

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Speaker 2: I want to stay here because we have no reason

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I haven't looked at this fight in grand detail.

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Speaker 2: Got you got forty eight more in front.

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Speaker 1: Of you, Luke, I got, I got, I got a

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Speaker 1: is Mack Max has what I would call modular striking.

432
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Speaker 1: He has things he is better at than others. He

433
00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,880
Speaker 1: has some tendencies, but if he needs to switch stances,

434
00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,600
Speaker 1: or circle in a direction, or have a certain kind

435
00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:42,240
Speaker 1: of combo built in just the right way for a

436
00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,760
Speaker 1: particular opponent, he can just add the pieces and fit

437
00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,679
Speaker 1: it on exactly how he needs it and then employ

438
00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:49,840
Speaker 1: it once he gauges the distance and everything else you

439
00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:53,000
Speaker 1: add into that. You're right, he is high volume. You're right.

440
00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,560
Speaker 1: He can take a shitload of damage and stay in

441
00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:59,360
Speaker 1: that space. He has amazing cardio. What he basically does

442
00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,240
Speaker 1: with that high and that modular striking is he finds

443
00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:05,080
Speaker 1: your openings and then he knocks on the door so

444
00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:08,280
Speaker 1: frequently he finds the answer to it with the key

445
00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:11,399
Speaker 1: pretty quickly, and then once he does, he just floods it.

446
00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:13,959
Speaker 1: And uh, there's not a lot of guys who can

447
00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,200
Speaker 1: hang with him. As a consequence, YEAHI are being able

448
00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:17,399
Speaker 1: to go as long as he did, and then to

449
00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,920
Speaker 1: put on a rally in the fifth that is very

450
00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:23,200
Speaker 1: unusual for Max. Usually Max's fifth round is by far

451
00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,560
Speaker 1: better than his first. This is the opposite. In that case,

452
00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:28,920
Speaker 1: he actually dominated, or at least did his best work

453
00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,160
Speaker 1: in that middle space. But that's why I think he's

454
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Speaker 1: the best, or at least not one of the best. Well,

455
00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:34,800
Speaker 1: he is one of the best, But that's what makes

456
00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,240
Speaker 1: him special, is what you really asked, right. He has

457
00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:41,960
Speaker 1: very modular striking. Any stance, any direction, any combination, more

458
00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:43,960
Speaker 1: or less, he can work with it. And you've noticed

459
00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,520
Speaker 1: even between the first and second Volkanoski fights he even

460
00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,320
Speaker 1: changed his stance. There's just not a lot of guys

461
00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:51,679
Speaker 1: who can make those kinds of changes, either in a

462
00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:52,720
Speaker 1: fight or between them.

463
00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,520
Speaker 2: And he may not utilize his ground game, you know,

464
00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:57,919
Speaker 2: in most key situations because he doesn't need to. But

465
00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,639
Speaker 2: I mean his adjustment on the ground and transitions. I

466
00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:05,000
Speaker 2: mean it was just lightning, fast and and elite. We

467
00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,400
Speaker 2: got to see a lot of what makes Max great

468
00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,560
Speaker 2: in this fight, but Luke I did want to not

469
00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:13,080
Speaker 2: go too much further before getting into the scoring. You know,

470
00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:17,840
Speaker 2: there's no lingering stank at all from this fight that

471
00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:21,600
Speaker 2: it was controversial, or even really that it was disputed.

472
00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,960
Speaker 2: But I did spend some time on the MKIA for

473
00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:28,280
Speaker 2: this saying there is an opening I think to make

474
00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:32,840
Speaker 2: a case for Yayi Rodriguez to either have gotten a

475
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,480
Speaker 2: better shake on the scorecards or even to be fair,

476
00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,399
Speaker 2: even though I agree it does not tell the story

477
00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,800
Speaker 2: of the fight to have pulled off a sort of

478
00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,560
Speaker 2: backdoor decision and look before anybody, because I got a

479
00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:45,440
Speaker 2: lot of you know, feedback and hate from that said,

480
00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,480
Speaker 2: you know, BC, God, good lord, why couldn't we have

481
00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,439
Speaker 2: gotten Luke on that postfight MK show? Because you couldn't

482
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,680
Speaker 2: score a fight, you know, if you were the only

483
00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,040
Speaker 2: one in the building and everyone took your word for it.

484
00:21:56,080 --> 00:22:00,359
Speaker 2: And I think people do have to realize again, because

485
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,520
Speaker 2: I do think most people at home are cracking the

486
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:06,720
Speaker 2: beer scoring in their head kind of whatever. Fights are

487
00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 2: never scored pride style at the end of who you

488
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,000
Speaker 2: thought got the better of it? Because guess what, Max

489
00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,840
Speaker 2: got the better of this fight? He overall did the work.

490
00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,320
Speaker 2: Fights are scored round by round, whether it's boxing or MMA,

491
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:22,400
Speaker 2: as if they're individual fights, and many times you can

492
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Speaker 2: get a potential score that does not tell the actual

493
00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 2: story of the fight. Luke, how did you score each

494
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,359
Speaker 2: individual round? Because I went back and watched it, and

495
00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,639
Speaker 2: the only amendment I will make to my scoring with

496
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Speaker 2: the full acknowledgment that three to four of these rounds

497
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 2: were very close is that I will take a step

498
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,320
Speaker 2: back from the idea that round three could be a

499
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,560
Speaker 2: ten eight. I do think, upon second watch, ten nine

500
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:46,280
Speaker 2: is very secure. How did you score this one?

501
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 1: Up and Doe, Yeah, I did not score round three

502
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,199
Speaker 1: ten eight. You thought at three point thirty of the

503
00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,480
Speaker 1: round when Max had mount, you were like, oh shit,

504
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:58,439
Speaker 1: this is headed in a terrible direction. But you know

505
00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:02,040
Speaker 1: it wasn't who terrible all things considered, and then you

506
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,159
Speaker 1: ever got back to his feet and and you know

507
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:06,960
Speaker 1: boxed Max. Max up a little bit for parts of

508
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,160
Speaker 1: that round. So Max one round three. But I'm just saying,

509
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,439
Speaker 1: I don't think for me. For me, I don't think

510
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,399
Speaker 1: it's a ten eight. I had rounds two, three, and

511
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 1: four for Max, ad one in five for ya year,

512
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,359
Speaker 1: so I had it forty eight forty seven Max.

513
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 2: I think that's the Yeah, that's fair in a very

514
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,199
Speaker 2: close fight in which some rounds you're especially round two,

515
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,920
Speaker 2: which I thought was the swing round. You're weighing maxes

516
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 2: step up in volume against the damage of a year,

517
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 2: particularly those leg strikes, and there were many of them

518
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:38,200
Speaker 2: that sometimes we don't score mentally the same level as

519
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,199
Speaker 2: a jab or a hook or all that. But I

520
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 2: got a lot of issues. First of all, with anyone

521
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,199
Speaker 2: looking at this and saying, you know that there's no

522
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 2: there's no case for Yaya winning this. I mean, guys, again,

523
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,920
Speaker 2: it's a math equation. It's not a who did your

524
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,400
Speaker 2: eye tests? Tell you one? It's it's simply a math equation.

525
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:55,880
Speaker 2: And I didn't like the three judges scoring on this, Luke.

526
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 2: And here's what I mean by that. Particularly Judge Saldamatta,

527
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 2: who had it four rounds to one for Max, gave

528
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,119
Speaker 2: Max all four one through four of the first four rounds,

529
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,679
Speaker 2: which I thought was more than generous. Now, I in

530
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 2: the end scored uh you know, Like I mentioned, I

531
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 2: scored one, two and five for Year, and I'm saying

532
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,159
Speaker 2: that those are very close. But look, two of the

533
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 2: three judges gave Max the first round. I don't see that,

534
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,640
Speaker 2: and if one didn't, it would have been a split decision.

535
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 2: And also round two, which I gave to yi Year,

536
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 2: And I get I'm in the minority, although I rewatched

537
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 2: it and still feel secure of that two of the

538
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:34,199
Speaker 2: three judges gave that to Max as well. Do you

539
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 2: think it's just a preference issue or do you look

540
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 2: back and see that you know two of the three

541
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 2: judges given the first to Max and saying they missed it,

542
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 2: and then you had a commentary team that was very

543
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,879
Speaker 2: pro Max. Not I don't think was planned. I think

544
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 2: that's just the way they saw it. Uh, do you

545
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 2: look at scoring three to two for a year as

546
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 2: someone you know shouldn't be in the chair that in

547
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,919
Speaker 2: the in the damn chair? They are? Oh?

548
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. I don't see a three two score

549
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,959
Speaker 1: for ya year as disqualifying, if that's what you're asking, Like,

550
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 1: I don't think it's suck so crazy that someone could

551
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 1: be like, oh what the fuck, But I don't. I

552
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,199
Speaker 1: could not give y'all ear, and I realized that, you know,

553
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,359
Speaker 1: it works piece by piece. But I'm just saying, like,

554
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 1: just thinking back on what I saw, I could not

555
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 1: give y'all ear both rounds one and two. I couldn't

556
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:23,160
Speaker 1: do it. Could I give them round one? I sort

557
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 1: of look at giving Max round one the same way

558
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 1: I look at giving ya ear all or three three

559
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 1: rounds to win, Like you could do it. It's probably

560
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 1: not the right call. You could get away with it.

561
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 1: So that's how I would view it. I think we

562
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 1: would agree right one in five ya Year three and

563
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 1: four Max two is sort of where you're like, what

564
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 1: do we do with this one? So that's the one.

565
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 2: It had had the two of the three judges not

566
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 2: given the first to Max, it would have been a

567
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,159
Speaker 2: split decision win for Max, and I think had that

568
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,639
Speaker 2: been the case, this would have not been an argument.

569
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 2: This would have been okay, close fight. Next overall did

570
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,439
Speaker 2: the better work. But you know, if read it two

571
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,360
Speaker 2: and if you did have it for Yayear, I think

572
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 2: because of that sal the model score, it makes it

573
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 2: look more of a reach to go out and give

574
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 2: these rounds to Yair. But again, upon rewatch, I don't

575
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,680
Speaker 2: think there's a question in round one. In round two

576
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 2: there is a severe case for him. There just was

577
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 2: Luke and anyone saying, you know, BC, how could you

578
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 2: score round five for Yaear? Well all three judges did,

579
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 2: and Luke Thomas, I mean, god, rewatch that one. That

580
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 2: one's an easy one.

581
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, round five I don't mind giving to ya Year.

582
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 1: But what I would say is for folks who are

583
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,119
Speaker 1: like wondering about the integrity of the result, or you know,

584
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 1: how could you get to whatever result you came to,

585
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 1: what I would say is judge it by pride or

586
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 1: one standards right, so judge the fight as a whole.

587
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,639
Speaker 1: Sometimes when you have a close fight, you know you

588
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,880
Speaker 1: scored the the ten nine MUS system, you're like, well,

589
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: the rightful winner one because they round they won X

590
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:47,919
Speaker 1: rounds and the other fighter won the y rounds. And

591
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,120
Speaker 1: I understand that. But then you're like, we had judge

592
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,160
Speaker 1: this from another direction, maybe we get a different result.

593
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 1: If you get the same result from two different scoring criteria,

594
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 1: the one system or the ten nine MUS system probably

595
00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 1: tell you the right guy one, And to me, I

596
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 1: would also so score this about four max under the

597
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 1: pride slash one system of judging a fight as a whole.

598
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:07,239
Speaker 1: So that's why I forget the right guy one.

599
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 2: But look, you do acknowledge that there are many a

600
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 2: fight in combat sports where the final score just doesn't

601
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 2: tell it. Because in a ten nine much system, unless

602
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 2: you're gonna go to ten eight, a ten nine round

603
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 2: could be close to full domination and it could also

604
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 2: be a pick them. So you know it's yeah, you.

605
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 1: Gonna have a fight. You could have a fight where

606
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, a boxing match where the winning

607
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 1: fighter gets all one hundred and twenty possible points, right, right,

608
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 1: have you given them all twelve rounds and all those

609
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 1: rounds could be close. All those rounds could be close.

610
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,639
Speaker 1: It's just that the one person edged enough on all

611
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,199
Speaker 1: the judges. That's unusual to see something like that, but

612
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 1: you know, theoretically, is it possible. Absolutely?

613
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 2: You can see and that MICHAELA. Meyer fight two fridays ago.

614
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 2: We just saw that same thing. She won, you know,

615
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 2: twelve to nothing, eleven to one against uh Hama Douche

616
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 2: or whatever. H what was the girl's name? I forgot

617
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 2: that the chicks name, but she fought her heart out.

618
00:27:58,240 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 2: It would look like a fifty to fifty fight. But

619
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 2: you know, one one one's getting the best of it

620
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 2: at the end of the day. But shout out to

621
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 2: yah year his stock gets raised. Luke, where does each

622
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,120
Speaker 2: guy go next? The people want to hear your take

623
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 2: unless you've already put multiple videos on your personal channel about.

624
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,199
Speaker 1: I have not done that, although I should, just to

625
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 1: piss you off. But this is the part I'm just

626
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: not sure what to say about. For Yayar. Let's see

627
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 1: him heal and then I think he anyone in the

628
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 1: top five to me is totally reasonable at that point, right,

629
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 1: So we'll see what happens then even top three. Really,

630
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 1: I don't think this, this was not this was a

631
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: qualifying performance for yayear for two years off to come

632
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:33,360
Speaker 1: a look like that incredible.

633
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 2: People want Ortega, bro, people want ya year versus Ortega,

634
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 2: and I would do a little cream get on top.

635
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I would say about that, dude. But Brian,

636
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 1: y'all are going to shorten Brian Ortega's fucking career.

637
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 2: Man, No, no, he will luke okay him?

638
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 1: And I mean, I'm not saying that Ortega versus Rodriguez

639
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 1: isn't the fight to make it so that's a sensational fight,

640
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,239
Speaker 1: but they're just putting this guy through the woodschipper at

641
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 1: this point. Okay, here's the part of them. It is

642
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 1: a little more interesting for me, which is obviously if

643
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 1: someone is campaigning for McGregor fight, you understand the basics

644
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 1: of why. Like, there's a lot of money, there's a

645
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: lot of notoriety. In the case of Max, it would

646
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 1: be a revenge fight if he could win. You get

647
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: the idea. But at the same time, it's just a

648
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 1: don't you find it a little strange with how much

649
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 1: he has gone to it given he was already guaranteed

650
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 1: a title shot. He took this fight when he didn't

651
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 1: need to. He wins it, and there's still a lot

652
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 1: of McGregor talk. Here's what I mean, BC. It's almost

653
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 1: as if, even if he wins the belt, Max is

654
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 1: eyeing a future outside of featherweight sooner rather than later.

655
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 2: I would agree with that. And it's not that it's a,

656
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 2: you know, a criminal move to make Max Connor next.

657
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 2: It's a rematch that we all feel like is inevitable.

658
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 2: I just think of the timing and the injuries to

659
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,959
Speaker 2: Connor and the doubt right now about his future. I

660
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 2: sort of knee jerk look at that fight and go,

661
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 2: Max is gonna stop and exhausted Connor in the fourth round,

662
00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? And I saw Connor, of course,

663
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 2: as every everyone did, pacing in front of the TV.

664
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 2: And we can criticize his cable management, the size of

665
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 2: his TV, for the money he makes, and just his

666
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 2: overall rabidness. Although I do like when Connor's rabid, But Luke, I,

667
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 2: if they did that, it's not that you'd go, I

668
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 2: don't get it. I just think Natiez is the fight

669
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 2: for Connor. But look, dude. You know, the the more

670
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 2: I do, the math, I just keep coming back to

671
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 2: Max Alex three, Luke, don't we want to know for

672
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 2: sure who the best featherweight in the world is and

673
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 2: hasn't Max done enough in the last two fights? Mix

674
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 2: added in combined with the second Volkanovsky fight to show

675
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 2: you that there's just nobody else more deserving. There's nobody

676
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 2: else at the moment right now, you really could favor

677
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 2: over Alex potentially depending on your stance. I mean I

678
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 2: thought Max be uh, you know, Alex in the second

679
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 2: one you did originally you changed upon multiple rewatches, but

680
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 2: that is as good of a fight as you could make.

681
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 2: I don't want to hear anyone say the first two

682
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 2: were boring because you know you don't get it then, right,

683
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 2: I mean that they were brilliant those first two. So

684
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 2: do it. What's stop it?

685
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 3: Look?

686
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 2: What the hell is stopping them? Volkanowski saying I don't

687
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 2: need to do it because I beat him twice? What

688
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 2: would stop them?

689
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: No, they'll They'll do it now. I mean there's a

690
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 1: Volkanovsky has to face this down. Period. Sorry, you got it?

691
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 1: Like like I said, Patricky Freday enjoyed the day he

692
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 1: beat Peter Peter Beata quilly enjoy the moment being champion,

693
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 1: But you're gonna, I mean, and he's hitting Russian cops

694
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 1: in the in the airports apparently, but you're gonna have

695
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: to see Husmin Nimakamadov one day, and that's gonna be

696
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 1: a very He might he might win. MMA is crazy,

697
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 1: but in all likelihood that's probably gonna get transferred over.

698
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: But we'll see what happens between Max and Alex. But

699
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 1: I'm just of the do you just you're not gonna

700
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 1: find rivalries this special in MMA that often where people

701
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: you could make a case that either guy won either

702
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 1: of those fights, and our third time you just don't

703
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 1: know who's gonna win. That is highly, highly unusual. Those

704
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 1: guys dominate one forty five. I don't know for how

705
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: much longer, but they dominate one forty five, and they

706
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: have to do it. They have to have this showdown

707
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 1: for their legacy, for this division, for that title, for everything.

708
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: There has to be a third fight.

709
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 2: A big reason why I want that third fight is

710
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 2: I agree with you that Max is long term headed

711
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 2: toward big money fights at one fifty five against there's

712
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 2: many names that you would probably love to see him at. Now,

713
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 2: is he putting himself more in a potential to take damage? Yeah,

714
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 2: he's gonna have to justice style a bit, be the

715
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 2: volume striker, but not walk into it. But that's sort

716
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 2: of why I want this Volkanovsky fight. I want to

717
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 2: know for sure if we should start wondering if there's

718
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 2: closure now for the end of Max's featherweight run, because

719
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 2: if he lose a third time to Volkanovsky, not only

720
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 2: does Alex really make a leap toward like legit, you know,

721
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 2: one of the all time greats, particularly specifically for that division,

722
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 2: but you know he's gonna he's on an insane run.

723
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 2: He beats a Max a third freaking time? Are you

724
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 2: kidding me? But I think that Luke would be the

725
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 2: clean okay, Max, great run. Now, let's do the Conter fight. Now,

726
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 2: let's consider a Poitier rematch. Now, let's see if you

727
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 2: can get in line and actually make a run at

728
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 2: this lightweight title.

729
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 1: All right, let's move to topic number two. If we

730
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 1: can here, we'll stay on that car. We could talk

731
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 1: about the fight here in just a second, but I

732
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: really want to know your thoughts on this part too,

733
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 1: So Andrea Lee put a beating. Really, you know what's

734
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: actually I've seen worse beatings, but she was I'll say this,

735
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 1: she was in the process. How about that, in the

736
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 1: process of putting on a beating on an old Cynthia

737
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: calvio at on the main card of this event. Let's

738
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 1: talk about this first. So Cynthia says fucking no moss

739
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 1: between the second and third round. Now, she might have

740
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 1: had a broken face, but the fight was starting to

741
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: go like this pretty badly. And the weird part was

742
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: Cynthia just looked languid out of it, not really all there.

743
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 1: Her punches were slow, they were barely landing with any authority.

744
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: That was hardly the best performance from her, But that

745
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: could also just be entirely due to Andrea Lee. Andrea Lee,

746
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 1: whatever you want to say, BC makes sense of this

747
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 1: for me. Any issue with her calling it off between

748
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 1: the second and third round.

749
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 2: No, no, Look, this was actually in the prelim card,

750
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 2: not the main card, and it was sprited Paul Dress

751
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 2: heavy battle in which they both bloodied the nose of

752
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 2: each other. And while you know, the story kind of

753
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 2: should be kg Beek kind of making a move in

754
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 2: this division that isn't all that stacked. No, the story

755
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 2: is Cynthia Calvio, mostly, Luke, because I finally sent you

756
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 2: that video that you hadn't seen where Dana did go

757
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 2: on that rant and compare a rising Calvio back in

758
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 2: the day saying I haven't seen a spirit like this

759
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 2: since Connor and Rousey. Now you know you don't want to,

760
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 2: you know, want to. It sucks that that's lingering over Calvio.

761
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 2: But look, Luke, that's three losses in a row. She's

762
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,240
Speaker 2: thirty four years old. She's been fighting good fighters, but

763
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 2: but not you know, not all time great killers. I mean,

764
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 2: I mean she lost a shoe. Kagian, Andraje and now Lee.

765
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 2: I look for this division, they're super lead. Andraje obviously

766
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 2: a former champion one division below. But Luke, something changed

767
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 2: once Calvio was unable to consistently make one fifteen. I

768
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 2: feel like whatever was special about her volume striking, and

769
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 2: you know you mentioned to me that she used to

770
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 2: be a much more aggressive grappler and now she's just

771
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 2: sort of following her opponents around. I've got no issue

772
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 2: with her and on the corner's advice not coming back

773
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 2: out because she was flat and really only gonna get

774
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,399
Speaker 2: punched in the face a bunch more, probably in route

775
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 2: to a decision loss. But there's a lot of explaining

776
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 2: to do for Calvio and her team, you know, in

777
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 2: terms of what's next for her. Can't can they go

778
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 2: back in the lab and really reinvent her as there's

779
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 2: still that much time she's had injuries. I mentioned, you know,

780
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,320
Speaker 2: she had a sort of go up to one twenty

781
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 2: five because she couldn't make that anymore. Not only you know,

782
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 2: sort of comically is she not what Dana once claimed

783
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,720
Speaker 2: her to be? But Luke, I've got legitimate questions about

784
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 2: who she actually is moving forward. I mean, do you

785
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 2: is it this drastic where you you look at switching

786
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 2: a camp and and and you know, breaking glass in

787
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,359
Speaker 2: case of necessarily you know, case of emergency and kind

788
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 2: of just completely going all in on one more run

789
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 2: because there's no Christmas to her. She's not never been

790
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 2: a big power puncher to begin with, but she's just

791
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,879
Speaker 2: following her opponents around looking for that counter right hand

792
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 2: and it's just not there.

793
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. To me, her development has gotten all fucked up,

794
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 1: and I don't know exactly where that really started. I

795
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 1: don't know because She was originally with Alpha Male, and

796
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: then she was over to AKA and now I think

797
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 1: she's in Vegas and something's gone wrong. I'm not blaming

798
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 1: the camps. It could be her changing has made the

799
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 1: camps just try to catch up with the other one,

800
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 1: and so the development didn't happen the way it was

801
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: supposed to. One of the reasons why sometimes sticking with

802
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: a team for a long time before making the switches

803
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: late can be really important because it doesn't disrupt the

804
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 1: overall development process. Here's why I believe that her development

805
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 1: has gotten fucked up. One just the eye test, dude,

806
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,320
Speaker 1: Cynthia just doesn't look the way she used to.

807
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 2: Now.

808
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 1: Part of that's probably the weight class. I don't think

809
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:45,839
Speaker 1: one twenty five is for her. There is no one

810
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 1: twenty weight class, but one p fifteen. She's much more

811
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: of a physical threat than she is at one twenty five.

812
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 1: That's the first problem, b se if you look at

813
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: some of her wins. First of all, she got to

814
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 1: the UFC after her her fourth fight was in the UFC,

815
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: So the other part, she got to the UFC way

816
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 1: too early. And I know she was a waitress at

817
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 1: cheesecake factory. You got to go make money, but you know,

818
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,439
Speaker 1: careful what you wish for, man, because once you get there,

819
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 1: the you know, to stick around is gonna be very difficult.

820
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: But let me read you some of her wins before

821
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 1: the losing streak. You would say in the UFC Amanda Cooper,

822
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 1: Pearl Gonzalez, Courtney Casey, Jessica I, or some of that

823
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 1: could name. Now you'd say there are some recognizable names

824
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: in there, but not some super elite names in there. Right.

825
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,399
Speaker 1: Courtney Casey had I think had a nine to nine

826
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 1: record heading into this weekend's bout. She's a good fighter,

827
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 1: but you know, uneven in her skill set. Jessica I

828
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 1: probably the best of them. If you said that, you're like, oh, well,

829
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: I get it. Now. She's fighting the Chukegians and the

830
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 1: Androges and the Lee's of the division. No wonder she's losing,

831
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 1: She's just having a step up in competition. I think

832
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 1: that's part of it. BC. But remember in her sixth fight,

833
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,879
Speaker 1: In her sixth fight, she beat Joe Anne Calderwood. Now

834
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 1: Calderwood had missed weight for that bout, so that was

835
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: not necessarily her best showing. But in your sixth bout,

836
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 1: your having it to Joey and Calderwood, and she won

837
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 1: by unanimous decision. To me, you had the ingredients of

838
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 1: somebody pretty special there and somewhere along the way pandemic

839
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 1: camp change, weight class change, it just hasn't come together.

840
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 1: If I'm her, I'm going to be reevaluating how possible

841
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 1: is it for me to revisit one hundred and fifteen

842
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 1: pounds under the guys or guys I should say, under

843
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:25,840
Speaker 1: the tutelage and the observation of a certified nutritionist or

844
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 1: somebody who really knows what they're doing getting you back

845
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: down to that weight, and then reinvesting in the grappling

846
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: and taking a big step back. I would actually argue,

847
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,479
Speaker 1: in what kind of fighters you're fighting at this point,

848
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 1: that her development's not done. Everything is headed in the

849
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 1: wrong direction. It's time for a change.

850
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,879
Speaker 2: Well, I do agree that maybe it was a little

851
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,240
Speaker 2: bit too much too soon. She almost became a victim

852
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,399
Speaker 2: of her success in the fact that she won five

853
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 2: fights in the same year in twenty seventeen, including her

854
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,760
Speaker 2: first four UFC, So she had this sort of Kevin

855
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 2: Holland Hamzat Chimayev type, Oh my god, this meteor is

856
00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:00,359
Speaker 2: you know what is this, but Luk at it well deep.

857
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 2: She got an amateur winover Aspen Lad and even in

858
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 2: her first few fights before the UFC, she beat Jillian Robertson,

859
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 2: she beat Montana de la Rosso, so she was fighting

860
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 2: pretty damn decent competition. And oh, by the way, Luke,

861
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 2: although she lost the decision to Sparza, she fought to

862
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 2: a majority draw with Marina Hadriguez before this losing streak,

863
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 2: so there were times that she was I don't think

864
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 2: it was. She just stepped up in class, and that

865
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 2: tells the story. As you mentioned, I don't see the

866
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 2: fire anymore. And it's weird because sometimes when you move

867
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:32,879
Speaker 2: up and wait, your intensity, your cardio, everything improves because

868
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 2: you're not killing your body to cut. For some weird reason,

869
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 2: it's been the inverse Luke for her since moving up

870
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 2: to one twenty five. She doesn't have that same spark.

871
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,879
Speaker 2: So maybe you can chalk it up to when she's

872
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 2: winning five fights in one year and she's basically focused

873
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 2: on I don't want a waitress anymore. There's a different

874
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 2: level of hunger, kind of like Luke. Even though Pearl

875
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 2: Jams an insanely great historical rock band, and they're still

876
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,959
Speaker 2: great live today, and the recent albums of the past

877
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 2: decade are pretty damn good. There's nothing like listening to

878
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 2: ten Eddie's voice that I mean, it's an instrument, because Luke,

879
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 2: it's hunger, it's angst, it's anger, it's you know, it's

880
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 2: telling the story of their lives. She didn't get to

881
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 2: necessarily to a level where she's sleeping with silk sheets.

882
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 2: But I haven't seen that hunger in a while. There

883
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 2: was a spark to her when she hit the scene

884
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 2: in the UFC, and it's not there anymore.

885
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. And then the last part I would say is

886
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 1: BC she took she shoot. So she fought Androge and

887
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: got stopped pretty badly in the first round there in

888
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:33,320
Speaker 1: late September, and then she took this fight on short notice.

889
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 1: Probably what she was thinking was, oh, you know what,

890
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 1: I'll take this one on short notice and just get

891
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 1: that one back right in the misery of the two fight,

892
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,359
Speaker 1: losing streak to these top contenders, and then she kind

893
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 1: of felt found herself at the end of all of

894
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 1: Lee's punches. Maybe her face got broken. I don't to

895
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 1: answer the original question, I don't have any issue with

896
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 1: her stopping the fight between the second and third round.

897
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 1: If your face is broken or it's just not your day,

898
00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 1: save your save it, save the punishment for a different day.

899
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,720
Speaker 1: At the same time, you know, if you're finding yourself

900
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,720
Speaker 1: losing fights like this three in a row, not to chumps,

901
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:11,879
Speaker 1: to good fighters, something's gone wrong. Something has clearly gone wrong,

902
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: and there is there is a need to repair the damage.

903
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 1: All right, Topic number three BC, Let's go to the

904
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 1: bell Tour side of things. Chris Cyborg made short work

905
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,359
Speaker 1: of Shane Kavanaugh. Shane Kavanaugh tried to make it a fight.

906
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 1: God bless her. She was out there to win it,

907
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 1: but it didn't last long. A series of right hands

908
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 1: sit her down inside the first BC. I know you're

909
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,240
Speaker 1: gonna tell me that that's impressive, but let's talk about

910
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 1: what really matters there that night in Miami. Was no

911
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 1: no a now free agent, multiple times Judoka champion in

912
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 1: the Olympics, multiple time PFL champion, Kayla Harrison. The question

913
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,800
Speaker 1: is as follows, not what it be a big fight,

914
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 1: how aggressively should Bellatore seek the services of free agent

915
00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 1: Kayla Harrison?

916
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,760
Speaker 2: I mean, without noing you know, their financial situation within

917
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 2: our own larger silo of a Viacom CBS company. How

918
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 2: about aggressive as shit. Look, this is a super fight

919
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,919
Speaker 2: and it's sort of perfect in terms of its crossroads

920
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 2: nature because Cyborg got thirty six has not slipped. You know,

921
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:18,399
Speaker 2: we talked that up at the end of this fight,

922
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 2: and boy did she go out there and deliver. And

923
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 2: I know there's some people going, well, Shane did land

924
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 2: a bob. I mean she did, she landed absolute bomb.

925
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 2: But you know, Cyborg countered that bomb and aiden and

926
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 2: took it. And look, I'm sorry, unless you're a Amanda Nunas,

927
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 2: you're not getting to a Cyborg right now, you know,

928
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 2: in terms of this level of competition. So the crossroads

929
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 2: fight is perfect because we don't really know how great

930
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 2: Kayla Harrison is. She's mopped up PFL. But not only

931
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 2: is her division barely a division, the division below one

932
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 2: forty five globally is barely a division. So this is

933
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 2: an extreme step up opportunity for Kayla. It is the

934
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 2: kind of opponent. I mean, Cyborg is already in ridiculous

935
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 2: shape and takes no shut and treats every fight like

936
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 2: it matters. But that's a get up early type of fight.

937
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 2: If you're training for it. That's a you know, put

938
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 2: everything you have, that's a it's a career defining fight

939
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 2: in many ways. So look, I don't I don't know

940
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 2: if there is a middle ground where they can do

941
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,359
Speaker 2: this without signing her long term. And I do think

942
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 2: PAFL is gonna have a say at the negotiation table

943
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 2: because they're able to offer one million dollars to win

944
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:25,240
Speaker 2: a tournament in which Kayla's going to be monstrously favored

945
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,240
Speaker 2: over these But what you love about Kayla's fighting spirit

946
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 2: is that she's not content with that. And after winning

947
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 2: two different seasons and having to sit out one for

948
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,320
Speaker 2: the pandemic, it kind of it feels time for Kayla

949
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 2: to really challenge herself. I love that she's not content.

950
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,399
Speaker 2: I love that this season she started calling people out

951
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 2: and speaking like a pro wrestler and being almost cocky

952
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 2: and saying, I know how great I am. Yeah, the

953
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 2: window just opened. Make this damn fight now. All we

954
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,959
Speaker 2: know from Scott Coker is that he told the media

955
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:55,839
Speaker 2: this week and after the fight he is interested, He's

956
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 2: willing to sit down. I'm sure he talked to Kayla.

957
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 2: Maybe this was the first time. I'm hoping Luke, I'm

958
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 2: hoping we get to this because this would be a

959
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 2: big deal. I mean, look, could you make this a

960
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 2: pay per view main event? Not that I want to

961
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 2: see that one, you know, but could you put this

962
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 2: on some big CBS. I mean this, you can really

963
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:15,320
Speaker 2: build to this fight properly and say, you know, maybe

964
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 2: outside of Amanda or Valentina, these are the two best

965
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 2: women in the world, or you can competently say these

966
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 2: two are on that level. Kayala might be on that level, Luke,

967
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,240
Speaker 2: we already know Cyborgs on the same level of newness

968
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 2: and Chefchenko historically despite losing to Amanda in that one.

969
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 2: So it's rare that you get to two fighters this

970
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 2: great and with this much of a story of old

971
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 2: versus new, and yeah, it feels like a I mean, look,

972
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 2: you know, could you get your money back on a

973
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 2: monster investment here? Maybe if you can sign Kayla, you know,

974
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 2: for a consistent number of fights and win or lose,

975
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 2: really make her one of the new faces of Belator.

976
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,760
Speaker 2: But despite belt Or having a good crop of fighters,

977
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:03,280
Speaker 2: Kayla's on such a rocket rise where she could instantly

978
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:06,399
Speaker 2: become a face of the franchise for them. So I hope. So, Luke,

979
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 2: I hope we see it and there's nothing because we're home,

980
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 2: we're Belatar, Homers whatever. No, As an MMA fan, I

981
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 2: fricking hope we can see it.

982
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,959
Speaker 1: I would actually argue for this fight by not being

983
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 1: a Belato or Homer, which is what I would. Listen,

984
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 1: your ultimate point is correct, right, which is the financials

985
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: are going to have to make sense here, and God

986
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:26,439
Speaker 1: only knows a what PFL could offer beyond we also

987
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 1: the standard, but a million dollar you know, cash prize

988
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:31,359
Speaker 1: and addition to all the other payments that you get

989
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 1: through that tournament, if you win, it is always going

990
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 1: to be on the table, as you mentioned, in a

991
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,760
Speaker 1: pretty lucrative thing. And again I don't know what Belator

992
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 1: needs to do to balance the books. And also, you

993
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 1: know you wouldn't want to sign Kayla for one fight

994
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 1: because if she wins, then she beats your champion then split,

995
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:46,800
Speaker 1: so you're gonna want to have to make an investment

996
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 1: in her. Do you want to make an investment in

997
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: two women that, in either case don't have much of

998
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:56,359
Speaker 1: a division behind them, right, You're gonna have the same

999
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 1: problem with either They're gonna have to fight each other

1000
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 1: a few times, probably to make that invest work. So

1001
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 1: there are a lot of reasons why the money may

1002
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 1: not work. But what I would say is on behalf

1003
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: of Bellator. Listen, what is the difference between Bellator and Strikeforce?

1004
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 1: In some ways, strike Force was obviously competing in a

1005
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 1: different era and did not have in any way a

1006
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,320
Speaker 1: monopoly at all on the amount of the best fighters

1007
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 1: in the game, but had more than what Belatore does.

1008
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 1: And as a consequence, a lot of the shows that

1009
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 1: Belator produced are good to find. But the kinds you got,

1010
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: let's say, with like a Pitbull versus McKee, where you

1011
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 1: have like a legitimate claim as this guy being the

1012
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 1: potential best in the world in that division or at

1013
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 1: a very minimum, you know, top three or something. You know,

1014
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 1: those are the kinds of events that make you stand up.

1015
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 1: Those are the kind of events that make you go, wow, Doe,

1016
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 1: there's something impressive outside of what the UFC is doing.

1017
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 1: And some of the other fights do that too. I

1018
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 1: don't mean to suggests otherwise, but this is just the

1019
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 1: obvious truth. With Cyborg and Kyla, there's any number of

1020
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 1: reasons to do it, one of which is, if I'm Belatore,

1021
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 1: I want to be able to have the ability to

1022
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 1: put on fights that I can legitimately claim feature the

1023
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 1: best or you know, arguably claim anyway the best fighter

1024
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,359
Speaker 1: in that division in the world. They might be able

1025
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 1: to do that, by the way, with their Belltour two

1026
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 1: hundred and five pound turney. I think aj McKee is

1027
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 1: basically as special as fighters come, more or less, and

1028
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 1: if you do that here with Kayla and Cyborg, you

1029
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 1: have yet another circumstance where you can do that. Also,

1030
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,359
Speaker 1: Scott Coker has had a long Scott Coker had a

1031
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 1: long standing respect for women's MMA before a lot of

1032
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: other promoters did too, so it's in a long tradition

1033
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 1: of that. But if I'm Bellatorn, I'm thinking about what

1034
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:31,959
Speaker 1: are ways where I can put on super relevant MMA

1035
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 1: fights where I can build a potential star in Kayla

1036
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 1: Harrison or any kind of star, and that really is

1037
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 1: significant for MMA. This is an easy win on that level.

1038
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: Whether the financials make sense could turn it into something

1039
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 1: you just can't do. I understand the business, but I

1040
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 1: just feel like Bellator should make a premium on big

1041
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:54,280
Speaker 1: time relevant fights at the top of a weight class

1042
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,479
Speaker 1: with people where that no one can bullshit, who has

1043
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 1: the or you know, couldn't deny that the people are

1044
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 1: in the conversation for being the very best in the

1045
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 1: weight class. Strikeforce had a lot more of those Belletre

1046
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 1: needs more of them.

1047
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 2: And uh, if Kayla was signed, here's the question that

1048
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 2: no one's asking, Luke, would she have to cut to

1049
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:17,280
Speaker 2: one forty five to fight here? Because that's a question.

1050
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 2: She says she could do for money, but not, you know,

1051
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 2: she's not She's wanna.

1052
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean, listen, here's the thing with Bellatort,

1053
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 1: sorry with the PFL for her, and you know this

1054
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 1: as well as I do, man like, yes, she could

1055
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 1: keep doing that, and there's gonna be a certain kind

1056
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,879
Speaker 1: of fighter who is gonna love the idea of like, dude,

1057
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go and beat up on some people

1058
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 1: that I know I can beat when that million dollar

1059
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: check and go home. But it turns out that like

1060
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,760
Speaker 1: when you actually get someone like Kayla, the equation changes,

1061
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 1: which you end up finding more so on the men's

1062
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:49,800
Speaker 1: side is the people interested in the PFL format, generally speaking,

1063
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 1: are guys who are good but couldn't quite couldn't quite

1064
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 1: at least the nurse more senior stages advance to where

1065
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 1: they wanted to go. And then this was a way

1066
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,800
Speaker 1: to like move around competition to get not an easy payday,

1067
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 1: but an easier chance at a big payday. Kayla's had

1068
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 1: a couple of these huge paydays. Now she's missing the

1069
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 1: other part, which is do she can collect this money?

1070
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 1: But the people who want to collect money in that

1071
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 1: way without ever really facing, you know, the very best

1072
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 1: that her generation has to offer, they tend to go

1073
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 1: towards that competition, not away from it, and so the

1074
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:27,320
Speaker 1: the incentive structure changes with her. She needs a big opponent.

1075
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 1: She needs a big opponent in a big fight. She's

1076
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 1: earned it, she wants it again. What do the financials

1077
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 1: make sense? We'll see, But I just feel like as

1078
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 1: lucrative as that money is, I'm not saying she will

1079
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,399
Speaker 1: to ultimately turn it down. I'd be very surprised if

1080
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 1: she goes right back there. She's gonna want to test

1081
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: herself against somebody.

1082
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,320
Speaker 2: And I think to the question is what you're saying

1083
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:49,359
Speaker 2: is she'd better be willing to make one forty five

1084
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 2: consistently because that's where the money are, not the money,

1085
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,399
Speaker 2: that's where the potential, Like glory can be right now,

1086
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:57,399
Speaker 2: and I don't mean kickboxing. And if you're hey, Scott

1087
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 2: cocheran Company and VICOMCBS and all the people that you

1088
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 2: know pay our paychecks. If you're gonna sign Kayla, how

1089
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 2: about sign Megan Anderson too. You know you've got That's right.

1090
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:08,360
Speaker 1: She's a free agent too, isn't she.

1091
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:10,839
Speaker 2: You've got kats and Ghano at one forty five. Who's

1092
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,359
Speaker 2: a name. You've got Arlene Bunco, who's had a hell

1093
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:15,799
Speaker 2: of a good performance on this undercard on Friday night

1094
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 2: against Pam Sorenson. You've got a couple names here. Let's

1095
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 2: make a let's let's let's make a you know what,

1096
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:23,799
Speaker 2: you know what, Scott has a chance to do what

1097
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 2: Scott loves to do. Luke, and I don't say this disparagingly,

1098
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 2: you know this is this is what I'd do if

1099
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 2: I was him. Build a division up and make a

1100
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 2: claim that it's the best in the world. If they

1101
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 2: if they signed the two names I mentioned and mix

1102
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 2: those with the names they have, Guess what belt or

1103
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 2: not only has the best women's one hundred and forty

1104
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 2: five pound division in the world, they have the only

1105
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,320
Speaker 2: women's one one hundred and forty five pound division in

1106
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 2: the world, Luke, And you know that's.

1107
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 1: True, you do, I do. You're right because Amanda Noonas

1108
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 1: isn't going to be here for too too much longer,

1109
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 1: so they might be able to just take whatever's left

1110
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:55,880
Speaker 1: over and run with it. It certainly very possible. Again, I

1111
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 1: think that's the It's easy for me to say that's

1112
00:50:58,080 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 1: the business bilt Or should be in, but I just mean,

1113
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 1: you know, when you really look at what moves the

1114
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 1: needle for them, that those are in short supply and

1115
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 1: they need more of them, and this is a possible,

1116
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 1: possible circumstance. Well they could add to you know, that

1117
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 1: greatness at one forty five, that greatness at men's two

1118
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 1: oh five as well. All right, so let's go to

1119
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,840
Speaker 1: number four now also on that on that same card.

1120
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 1: To me, this was a super important fight and a

1121
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 1: really important performance and by and large, not totally but

1122
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 1: pretty close, Aaron Pico delivered. He controlled and beat up

1123
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 1: Justin Gonzalez for three full rounds. I think that's the

1124
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 1: longest he's ever gone. I gotta double check that it is, certainly, Yeah,

1125
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 1: the first sign gone to the cards. Yeah, there you go,

1126
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 1: and did it without a hint of controversy whatsoever. BC

1127
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:48,799
Speaker 1: grade his performance number one, what would you give it?

1128
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 1: And number two? What did it tell you about his upside?

1129
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 2: You know, give it a I guess an A minus,

1130
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 2: you know, I mean it's I want to say B plus.

1131
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,120
Speaker 2: With that almost underscores that he didn't get the finish,

1132
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 2: But I'm almost happier that he didn't, Luke, and I

1133
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 2: liked afterwards that he said, I really needed this. I

1134
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 2: needed to go the distance for the first time and

1135
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 2: kind of prove to myself that I can do this. Luke,

1136
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:14,359
Speaker 2: this was exactly what I was looking for. We've seen

1137
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 2: him go out there and brutally finish people, and I

1138
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:18,959
Speaker 2: know Gonzalez is probably a step up from the guys

1139
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 2: he's most recently defeated, coming in with the unbeaten record

1140
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:25,400
Speaker 2: and some decent experience. But I love that he was

1141
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:29,359
Speaker 2: patient and poised and willing to lean on his strengths. Look,

1142
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 2: Aaron Picco's at a weird spot where the things that

1143
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 2: he could do to impress us most right now are

1144
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 2: not the most impressive things. Meaning I don't need to

1145
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 2: see that highlight reel shit anymore. I know you can

1146
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:40,839
Speaker 2: do it. I know you're an incredible boxer. I know

1147
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 2: you can slam people and knock out people of the body.

1148
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 2: I've got to see you completely control and dominate. So

1149
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 2: in that sense, Luke, it really was near perfect across

1150
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 2: the board. I mean, I kind of get the feeling

1151
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 2: that his stand up defense is never gonna be perfect.

1152
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 2: But as long as it's not reckless, as long as

1153
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 2: he's not leaving his chin out there, and of course

1154
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 2: when he goes in there and he steps up for

1155
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:06,279
Speaker 2: real against some legitimate sluggers, uh, you know we're gonna

1156
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 2: have to see that if he can, if he can

1157
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:10,760
Speaker 2: rein it in a little bit and actually box, not headhunt.

1158
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 2: But Luke, what are you gonna say? What are you

1159
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 2: gonna pinpoint? That wasn't great about this? I kind of

1160
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 2: needed a veteran win, and this this looked like a

1161
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 2: veteran win.

1162
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 1: Well, again, let's be very fair and clear about Pico.

1163
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 1: This was a great performance. I mean, he should be

1164
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 1: very proud of it, very happy. I saw him get tagged.

1165
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 1: And remember what we said on Friday, we just want

1166
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 1: to make sure he even if he gets hit, you

1167
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:35,919
Speaker 1: don't lose composure. He didn't he stuck to the game plan.

1168
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:37,839
Speaker 1: By and large, there's a few of those spinny kicks

1169
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 1: which you can see here he threw that wasn't great.

1170
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 1: But you know, to your point, A minus I think

1171
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 1: is exactly the right scorecard. Here's the one issue for

1172
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 1: me that I still see that I would like, I

1173
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: don't even know if you can clean it up, to

1174
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 1: be quite honest with it. And part of this is

1175
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: not even like wrong or right, sometimes just preference. But dude,

1176
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:59,479
Speaker 1: once you just see what happens when people really get

1177
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 1: good at it and build into their striking game fainting

1178
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 1: and I mean that sincerely. Do you see it in

1179
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 1: boxing all the time? You see it and striking all

1180
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 1: the time. Certain MMA strikers are the higher level ones.

1181
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 1: The reason why it's so important. Folks like, oh, you're

1182
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 1: just you're adding a level of complication, you like the

1183
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:15,799
Speaker 1: CKB guys. It's not it's not really about that. The

1184
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 1: CKB guys use that influence they got from boxing. They'll

1185
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 1: tell you that Eugene Beherman talks about the fact that

1186
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 1: he was influenced by watching boxing. That's why they brought

1187
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 1: it over there. So that's really where it comes from

1188
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 1: from them. Here's why you want to faint. It's a

1189
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 1: very simple explanation because once you get good at it,

1190
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 1: you are striking on your terms, on your open windows,

1191
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 1: not theirs versus. If we're just gonna throw all the time,

1192
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 1: you're just rolling the dice, not like in the You know,

1193
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:46,719
Speaker 1: it's not fifty to fifty every time, and I mean

1194
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 1: in that way, but you know you're there's an openness

1195
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 1: to that exchange where either guy can kind of get

1196
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 1: the best of the other one. And fainting, by the way,

1197
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 1: is no guarantee you're not gonna get hit. But you

1198
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 1: watch a master fainter, they create a window, exploit it,

1199
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 1: and then they're back out. I think a guy like

1200
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 1: Pico could really really benefit, especially b C. Here's why, dude.

1201
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:09,840
Speaker 1: His level change and penetration step to get the takedown

1202
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:12,879
Speaker 1: it's one of the best I've ever seen. I mean

1203
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 1: that sincerely. He gets so far underneath these guys. By

1204
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 1: the time they're fighting for underhooks and everything else, it's

1205
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 1: way too fucking late. He's already got them picked up,

1206
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 1: driven to the fence, on the ground, you name it.

1207
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 1: His wrestling is fantastic, it's super good. His ground and

1208
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 1: pound is dynamite, bro. You start level changing these guys

1209
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 1: into thinking something's coming and it's not. And he's we

1210
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:36,839
Speaker 1: know by the way, he's got great power. How about

1211
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:39,720
Speaker 1: his body attacks his body, punching those vicious left hooks

1212
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 1: to the body. It's great. So all I'm pointing out

1213
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:44,880
Speaker 1: is I would love to see him create striking exchanges

1214
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 1: that start on his terms and then go through with

1215
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 1: it rather than just trying to throw and see if

1216
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 1: it works.

1217
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and he's strong, physically strong shit, I mean, he's

1218
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:59,400
Speaker 2: able to just you know, physically dominate people. So matchmaking wise,

1219
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 2: I still believe that I think the the not the

1220
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 2: boss at the end of the video game. But the

1221
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 2: fight he really has to win for his own confidence

1222
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:11,360
Speaker 2: in ours that he's legitimately titled ready is that Adam

1223
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 2: Bortrie match. So if I could set it up perfectly, Luke,

1224
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 2: I would have that as sort of the last fight

1225
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 2: before the title fight. And look, he's gonna fight for

1226
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 2: a title somewhat sooner than later. He's on a great

1227
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:23,919
Speaker 2: win streak. He's that good. But I want to see

1228
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 2: him against a Daniel Vichel type next. I know Vichel's

1229
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 2: coming off a competitive loss to Pedro Carvaglio in a

1230
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 2: pretty good fight from a couple of weeks ago. But

1231
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:35,799
Speaker 2: that's the sort of veteran guy who can take you

1232
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 2: into more rounds. I'd even luke I didn't even make

1233
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 2: that a main event. You know, sometimes Belter's got these

1234
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 2: in between cards. Now maybe it's maybe not main event,

1235
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:47,319
Speaker 2: that's not main event worthy, but co main event may

1236
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 2: get a five rounder. I kind of want to see

1237
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 2: him in a in a near title type setting against

1238
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 2: the type of veteran who can particularly expose his flaws.

1239
00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 2: I don't know if Vichel's that perfect guy, but is

1240
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 2: that the type of matchmaking you're looking for next? As well?

1241
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 1: That seems a little aggressive. Daniel Weischel is a he's

1242
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 1: not a world beater, but he's in everyone else but

1243
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:08,759
Speaker 1: them beater.

1244
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 2: But he's he's enough, there's enough mileage on him where

1245
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:14,440
Speaker 2: it could be it's but it's it's kind of like

1246
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 2: perfect boxing matchmaking him a lot of ways.

1247
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 1: I have to think about that more. I'll say this PC,

1248
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 1: you might be right, you might be right. My initial

1249
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 1: reaction is that's a little bit too far from guy

1250
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 1: who wins on contended series but doesn't get the call

1251
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 1: up to Daniel Weischel, who I think could beat a

1252
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 1: lot of UFC featherweights. But you're also right, this is

1253
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 1: not the very best Daniel Weischel. We know he can't

1254
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 1: beat the very best. You beat him and tells us

1255
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:43,919
Speaker 1: exactly where. I would still like to see one more

1256
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 1: before that, but I'll say this either a vical type

1257
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 1: next or a rematch against Corrals who we lost to,

1258
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 1: and then go to vil.

1259
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 2: I like that a lot too. No, he's not ready

1260
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 2: for Emmanuel Sanchez net next.

1261
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, Patrick Covodio, I think he could beat two, but

1262
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 1: Emmanuel Sanchez I don't think. I mean, that's that's a

1263
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 1: tough that's a tough guy to beat. So no, I

1264
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 1: don't really agree with that one either. But you know,

1265
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 1: you get the idea. Does did that make you believe

1266
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 1: that with proper development he could be champion what you

1267
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 1: saw on Friday?

1268
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 2: And I already believed that coming in, but this, you know,

1269
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 2: this kind of cemented it.

1270
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 1: Yes, all right? And then last but certainly not least BC,

1271
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 1: what do we make topic number five of old David Benavidez.

1272
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna ask you in this way, So, David

1273
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 1: Benavidez headlined on Showtime on Saturday night. He beat the

1274
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 1: shit out of his opponent, who, by the way, though

1275
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 1: was surprisingly game.

1276
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 2: He knew that was for a one sided war. Conron

1277
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 2: Davis has some balls. He's He's probably like a division

1278
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 2: and a half smaller. He thought his heart out, dude.

1279
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 1: He did, he did. He had nothing for David Benavitez

1280
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 1: except all the heart in the world. But but okay,

1281
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 1: here's the way I want to ask this, because he

1282
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 1: was relentless campaigning for a Canelo fight. But over on Dezone,

1283
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 1: Jimi Mungia and Gabrizzatto put on what I thought was

1284
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 1: maybe the best boxing fight of the weekend, just in

1285
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 1: terms of like back and forth raw action. Gay Rizato

1286
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 1: doing much better than I thought, but ultimately Jimi Mungia

1287
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 1: getting that nod over there as well. Mumguilla fight was

1288
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 1: at one sixty obviously, Davidbida is at one sixty eight.

1289
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 1: Let me ask it this way, who did a better

1290
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 1: job convincing you that they deserve and would do well

1291
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 1: in a Canelo fight. Mungia at one sixty on Saturday

1292
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 1: on his own or Benavidez one sixty eight on Showtime.

1293
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 2: I gotta go Benavidez. But I think it's it's it's

1294
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 2: pretty damn close because Hami Mungia against a a kind

1295
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 2: of reformed veteran Ga Brizatto, who we really got to

1296
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:44,240
Speaker 2: give Freddie Roach credit. He does he remember what he

1297
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 2: did with Miguel Coto. He's very good at taking older

1298
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 2: fighters who've still got something left and rebuilding their confidence

1299
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 2: and really making them offensively dangerous again. And we've never

1300
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:57,440
Speaker 2: seen Gabrizado try to be this much of a puncher,

1301
00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:00,520
Speaker 2: and that's what made that Mangia fight so fun, even

1302
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 2: though it was really one sided in the end, but

1303
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 2: Gabe just really going for it one shot at the

1304
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 2: time against Mongia's relentlessness. But this is the first time Mongia,

1305
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:11,320
Speaker 2: who's still young as shit, what is he twenty five,

1306
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 2: this was the first time he really leaned into defense Luke,

1307
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 2: he used to be zombie like in Walking Forward. But

1308
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 2: another all time great Eric Morales, who is his trainer,

1309
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 2: and it's really becoming a pretty damn good one. I

1310
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 2: think Mark Morales, who's not who again wasn't a defensive wizard,

1311
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 2: although he was responsible, was more of a go get

1312
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:32,280
Speaker 2: it guy. He's done great work with Mongia to round

1313
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 2: him out a little bit, give him some more foundational principles,

1314
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 2: some iq that working behind the guard. Mongia I think

1315
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:42,160
Speaker 2: still is a long term Canelo opponent, but I think

1316
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:45,960
Speaker 2: short term, if Canelo doesn't choose Triple G next, I

1317
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 2: think Mangia should be the next Triple G opponent because

1318
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:51,120
Speaker 2: it's the same division. Triple G's gonna try to unify

1319
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 2: middleway titles with Riota Morada in December and Japan. Mongia

1320
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 2: doesn't have a belt right now, former champion at one

1321
01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 2: fifty four. They're both with his own. That to me

1322
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 2: makes a ton of sense, although obviously we know the

1323
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 2: Canelo Triple G trilogy doesn't want that bad. There's a

1324
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 2: lot of money there that could happen next. But if

1325
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 2: you're asking me who who showed out better here, it's

1326
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 2: gotta be Benevitez. This wasn't the matchup he wanted, or

1327
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:16,240
Speaker 2: necessarily that we or Showtime wanted, because it's got to

1328
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 2: keep you know, pissed dirty or what have you. But

1329
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:22,920
Speaker 2: Kyron Davis again after that draw with Anthony Durell, really

1330
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 2: showed that there's something there and shout out to his trainer,

1331
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 2: Steven Bredman Edwards one of the real, one of the real.

1332
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 1: I'm so glad you brought that up, dude. He so

1333
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 1: for let me set this up for folks who don't know.

1334
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 1: Even before the sixth round, after the fifth his corner

1335
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:39,800
Speaker 1: was like, Bro, you don't start showing me something on

1336
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:41,480
Speaker 1: the throw of the towel, like giving him a warning

1337
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 1: right away, right away, because look, they took this fight

1338
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:46,480
Speaker 1: on short notice. As BC indicator you can see from

1339
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 1: the photos. Man, they weren't the same size. This was

1340
01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:50,480
Speaker 1: an uphill climb, and they were willing to take it

1341
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 1: on certain terms. But once Benavidez started rolling with the

1342
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 1: combinations against the ropes, shit changed pretty quickly. Goes out

1343
01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 1: there for the six and just basically says either it's

1344
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:03,080
Speaker 1: this round or it's not. He starts getting beat up

1345
01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 1: and he throws the towel and he saved his guy

1346
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 1: a bunch of punishment, even though he had all the

1347
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 1: heart in the world. I loved loved seeing that.

1348
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:12,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, shouldn't we be seeing video of this fight? This

1349
01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 2: It was a showtime fight, right, don't we have reds

1350
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 2: to that shit. Breadman, by the way, is one of

1351
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:21,440
Speaker 2: the he's a regular guest on the Raskin of mulvaney

1352
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:26,040
Speaker 2: Showtime Boxing podcast and he does a column for Boxing Scene.

1353
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 2: He's just a smart dude, Julian j Rock Williams' trainer.

1354
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:32,160
Speaker 2: But that was a very smart stoppage and to hear

1355
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 2: Davis afterwards talk up his coach as his second father.

1356
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:38,840
Speaker 2: You saw the tears and it was a good assholesome

1357
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:41,240
Speaker 2: moment in a sport that rarely delivers. But the bigger

1358
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:45,080
Speaker 2: story here is Benavitez. Despite that, he looked tremendous his

1359
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:48,320
Speaker 2: consistent attack to the body. He's got quick feet for

1360
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:50,920
Speaker 2: a guy that says, even though Mongi is a badass,

1361
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:53,680
Speaker 2: he's still a weight class smaller coming up from a

1362
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:57,800
Speaker 2: weight class smaller. The hook on Benavitez against Canelo is

1363
01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 2: the size and the power and the activity and the

1364
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:04,920
Speaker 2: fact that you know, look, monkey is also Mongy is

1365
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:07,360
Speaker 2: actually born in Mexico. So I'm not gonna say, you know,

1366
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 2: Benaviez is more Mexican Monkey. I'm not saying that. I'm saying,

1367
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 2: you know, benavie is a little bit bigger of a star.

1368
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:15,080
Speaker 2: He's in the same weight class and he would bring

1369
01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 2: a size advantage to Canelo that I think is the

1370
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:21,280
Speaker 2: cell right along with being Mexican American, along with saying, hey,

1371
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:23,000
Speaker 2: if we're gonna do this, let's do it. Sinkle to

1372
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 2: myle weekend in Vegas and let's really go, you know,

1373
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 2: all Mexican style. And you know you just fought that

1374
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:31,720
Speaker 2: defensive you know, slick Boxer and Caleb Plantt. Now fight

1375
01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 2: a bigger guy who's coming after you and is not

1376
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:37,680
Speaker 2: afraid to take punishment back, and we'll throw it in flurries.

1377
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:40,160
Speaker 2: He had the performance we wanted, and although he did

1378
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:43,880
Speaker 2: mention afterwards that he wanted Canelo, I kind of feel

1379
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:45,600
Speaker 2: like he should have slammed that down, Luca. I know

1380
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:47,960
Speaker 2: I'm the pro wrestling guy. Although I really don't watch

1381
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:50,520
Speaker 2: it anymore more news at eleven Oh, I know the shit.

1382
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:51,240
Speaker 1: You don't.

1383
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:54,000
Speaker 2: No, I really don't. I didn't even watch Aw's pay

1384
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:55,960
Speaker 2: per view over the weekend. I'm kind of I'm kind

1385
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 2: of moving on Luke, and that's fine. But my point is,

1386
01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:01,240
Speaker 2: I know not everybody's gonna take the wrestling route and

1387
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 2: say Canelo, you puto, you motherfucker, why don't you fight

1388
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:08,800
Speaker 2: a real Mexican. I know that's not everybody's you know,

1389
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:11,760
Speaker 2: mo o, But I wanted a little bit more. Instead,

1390
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 2: Benavidez kind of threw his thunder at Jamal Charlow and

1391
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 2: called him a pussy and all. That would be an

1392
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:20,640
Speaker 2: equally great fight. But yes, Benavitez, I think, Luke, short

1393
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:23,520
Speaker 2: of Canelo going to Triple G, I don't believe anymore

1394
01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:25,680
Speaker 2: that Canelos going to one seventy five next. I don't

1395
01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 2: think the upside is there. I think if Canelo comes

1396
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:31,760
Speaker 2: back to PBC in showtime company, guy BC loves cashing

1397
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:34,000
Speaker 2: these checks. But I think also if you can fight

1398
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:37,520
Speaker 2: David Benavitez and Jamal Charlo in twenty twenty two, it's

1399
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:39,200
Speaker 2: a hell of a great pay per view year. Maybe

1400
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 2: Canello wants to fight a third time. Who knows, Maybe

1401
01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:44,200
Speaker 2: he could slip in that Triple G trilogy for all

1402
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:48,760
Speaker 2: I know. But yeah, Luke Benavitez, to me, did did

1403
01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:50,400
Speaker 2: what he had to do. He did what he freaking

1404
01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:52,880
Speaker 2: had to do. He's an uncrowned champion in his own way.

1405
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:55,360
Speaker 2: We know his issues outside the ring. And Luke, even

1406
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 2: though his brother Jose coming back from a three year layoff,

1407
01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:01,240
Speaker 2: got what I thought it was a gift draw in

1408
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:04,040
Speaker 2: that co main event. Did you see that video package.

1409
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:07,640
Speaker 2: I had forgotten that Jose Junior, his older brother, had

1410
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 2: been shot in the leg and had that like violent background,

1411
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:15,480
Speaker 2: but also was like the youngest Golden Globes champion in

1412
01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:19,120
Speaker 2: US history. They kind of had a quasi ideas brother's vibe.

1413
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:21,360
Speaker 1: Right, A little bit, A little bit, yeah, except here's

1414
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:24,760
Speaker 1: the problem, like there's a big gap in ability between them,

1415
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 1: which yeah, you could have said there was a while

1416
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:29,160
Speaker 1: between Nick and Nate, but I think that is closed.

1417
01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:31,560
Speaker 1: And you know, both are kind of like different versions

1418
01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:34,440
Speaker 1: of each other, whereas like, don't you get the feeling that,

1419
01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 1: like David Benavitez and his brother, like his brother is

1420
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:40,280
Speaker 1: the one he's like a much. Both guys are tough

1421
01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:42,320
Speaker 1: at shit. Obviously they're pro boxers, but like a there's

1422
01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:44,160
Speaker 1: a big gap in ability, and the one who has

1423
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:47,440
Speaker 1: the lesser ability is like the is like the street

1424
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 1: crazier one of the two.

1425
01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:52,000
Speaker 2: I agree with that. But Jose used to be the

1426
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:54,280
Speaker 2: better of the two, and he did fight Terence Crawford

1427
01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:56,040
Speaker 2: for the walterweight title, and he went deep into that

1428
01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:58,160
Speaker 2: fight before getting stopped late. But you know, he was

1429
01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:01,240
Speaker 2: like the amateur sensation, a new turn pro at seventeen

1430
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:04,000
Speaker 2: and Benavito is actually pretty fat. David was a pretty

1431
01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:06,479
Speaker 2: fat kid back in the day, and it's really slimmed down.

1432
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 2: But yeah, they got they got a cool vibe going

1433
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:10,120
Speaker 2: at the very least.

1434
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:12,200
Speaker 1: Luke, all right, gott let me, let me, let me,

1435
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:13,600
Speaker 1: let me Arms.

1436
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:15,920
Speaker 2: To your head. Broka, I want to ask you a question,

1437
01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:21,439
Speaker 2: rock firearm to your head. Better call Saul? Right, who

1438
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:23,000
Speaker 2: does Saoul pick next?

1439
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:25,960
Speaker 1: But as my wife would say, better better call Saoul.

1440
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:28,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's not the name of the show. But okay,

1441
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:28,800
Speaker 1: go ahead.

1442
01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:34,560
Speaker 2: Who is he picking? Who is Big Red picking for May?

1443
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:36,840
Speaker 1: Okay, here's what Here was my read on this. Piecie,

1444
01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:38,760
Speaker 1: tell me if you feel like I'm off on something right,

1445
01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:40,800
Speaker 1: because I'm still putting all my p's and q's together

1446
01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:43,880
Speaker 1: with my boxing knowledge. So I watched the Mungia fight,

1447
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:46,920
Speaker 1: I watched the Benavidez fight. To me, it just seems like,

1448
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:49,120
Speaker 1: for a lot of reasons, most of which you have

1449
01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:53,960
Speaker 1: already articulated, the Benavidez Canelo fight just makes more sense

1450
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:56,600
Speaker 1: for Canelo. I think it makes more sense for boxing.

1451
01:06:56,680 --> 01:06:59,400
Speaker 1: Quite frankly that I introduced Moungia because I thought it'd

1452
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:01,320
Speaker 1: be a fun little WHI I didn't want to, like

1453
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:05,240
Speaker 1: not talk about that fight, but I think Benavidez makes

1454
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:07,400
Speaker 1: more sense. Here's what I would say though. First of all,

1455
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:09,520
Speaker 1: I love your idea about Triple G Munggia. I think

1456
01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:13,240
Speaker 1: that is fucking awesome. Number one to me, though, the

1457
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:15,800
Speaker 1: one thing I want to give Mungia is not that

1458
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:17,880
Speaker 1: I think he's a better fit for the Canelo fight,

1459
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:20,640
Speaker 1: because I don't, although at some point one never knows.

1460
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:22,880
Speaker 1: Because you indicate twenty five Mexican who knows what they

1461
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:24,400
Speaker 1: want to do with that one. That's always gonna be

1462
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:27,200
Speaker 1: something kind of interesting. But what I would say is

1463
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:31,160
Speaker 1: Mungia had to do and show more to win against

1464
01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:35,720
Speaker 1: Gabe Risotto than Benavitez did against his late notice, very

1465
01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:39,280
Speaker 1: very sprightly but late notice kind of overmatched opponent. David

1466
01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:43,040
Speaker 1: Benavitez was walking this guy down with zero respect for

1467
01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:45,920
Speaker 1: him from round three on. I mean from that point over,

1468
01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:48,440
Speaker 1: From that point on, the fight was fucking over. It

1469
01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:52,360
Speaker 1: just took that long fire to end. Mungia, as you

1470
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:56,520
Speaker 1: indicated in your answer, had to show different things to

1471
01:07:56,600 --> 01:07:58,760
Speaker 1: get past Risotto in a way that we hadn't quite

1472
01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:01,760
Speaker 1: seen from him. A couple extra gears. So I actually

1473
01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:03,960
Speaker 1: think that going in the direction in you stated was

1474
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:07,520
Speaker 1: the best one Mungia to Triple G, Benavidez to Canelo.

1475
01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:09,840
Speaker 1: But what I would say from Mongia is, Dude, this

1476
01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:12,200
Speaker 1: is a fucking impressive performance from him, and you didn't

1477
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:14,880
Speaker 1: get all of the offensive firepower that you're used to

1478
01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:17,800
Speaker 1: seeing from him, but what you did get was and

1479
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:21,439
Speaker 1: overall better performance of well roundedness. I actually loved this

1480
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:22,120
Speaker 1: from Mungia.

1481
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:25,760
Speaker 2: I do, I did. I love the performance. I just

1482
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:28,760
Speaker 2: think you know, he's deeper down the line and for

1483
01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:31,280
Speaker 2: potential Canalo right now than we realize. Look, dude, if

1484
01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:33,439
Speaker 2: Triple G beats Marada, he's I think it's Triple G

1485
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:35,280
Speaker 2: and Benavitez had to head. What do I know behind

1486
01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:37,120
Speaker 2: the scenes. That's what I'm just saying from from where

1487
01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:39,400
Speaker 2: I'm looking at right now. Look, did you happen to

1488
01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:42,599
Speaker 2: see at all the uh the Golden Boy approved ring

1489
01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:45,479
Speaker 2: announcer that.

1490
01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:47,120
Speaker 1: That one the one who, the one who had the

1491
01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:51,000
Speaker 1: one who also when he commentates, looks like like you

1492
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:52,719
Speaker 1: do when you eat with the one eye clothes.

1493
01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:54,519
Speaker 2: Yes, well, look I'm not gonna bring that up because

1494
01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:56,439
Speaker 2: you know he can't he can't like me, Luke, you

1495
01:08:56,439 --> 01:08:57,519
Speaker 2: know he can't fix that.

1496
01:08:57,600 --> 01:08:59,320
Speaker 1: Okay, it is Oh I didn't know, Okay, so let

1497
01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:02,600
Speaker 1: me back up. I don't I don't want to make

1498
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:04,559
Speaker 1: fun of when has actually disability. I thought he was

1499
01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:06,040
Speaker 1: doing a bit so if.

1500
01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:08,760
Speaker 2: I he might have a little bit of a wandering eye,

1501
01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:10,559
Speaker 2: I don't have a wandering eye. I have a lazy

1502
01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:14,280
Speaker 2: eyelid that jumps when I eat very much. To draw

1503
01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:15,400
Speaker 2: the the uh.

1504
01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:17,040
Speaker 1: I thought I thought he was. I literally thought he

1505
01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:20,040
Speaker 1: was doing this, like like getting into it kind of

1506
01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:22,400
Speaker 1: a thing. I didn't know. Give him credit.

1507
01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:25,640
Speaker 2: The sound of his voice is good, his hair is fantastic.

1508
01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:29,519
Speaker 2: His catchphrase of uh, let's get golden or whatever the

1509
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:31,960
Speaker 2: hell is lame. But I didn't like it. Neither did

1510
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:34,280
Speaker 2: anyone on boxing Twitter. When after the fight he's like,

1511
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:37,559
Speaker 2: let's give a hand to these guys for without a doubt,

1512
01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:40,080
Speaker 2: the fight of the year. We're like, bro, come on,

1513
01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:41,680
Speaker 2: I mean it's like the it's like the fight of

1514
01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:43,880
Speaker 2: this month. But come on, I mean, like can we

1515
01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:44,719
Speaker 2: can we please?

1516
01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:45,600
Speaker 4: Have?

1517
01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:47,800
Speaker 1: He had big ass traps. You could tell my man's

1518
01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:48,760
Speaker 1: been in the weight room too.

1519
01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:50,880
Speaker 2: I didn't look at him that close.

1520
01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:52,960
Speaker 1: He didn't see that. You didn't see that. You didn't

1521
01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:54,800
Speaker 1: see the traps from all the shrugs he's been doing.

1522
01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:56,000
Speaker 2: No, I didn't.

1523
01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:58,799
Speaker 1: I didn't. All right, Well, you know, very very alpha

1524
01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:01,680
Speaker 1: of you to not notice. Okay, all right. With that

1525
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:03,920
Speaker 1: in MINDBC, it's time for us to answer the questions

1526
01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:07,280
Speaker 1: from the fans. It's time for dms from the diggity donks.

1527
01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:10,880
Speaker 2: Hehaw he.

1528
01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:19,960
Speaker 1: All right, BC. This is from fron Underscore six oh seven.

1529
01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:23,120
Speaker 1: After being a ref for a million years, what can

1530
01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:27,080
Speaker 1: be done about the indecisiveness of herbs stopping fights but

1531
01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:29,120
Speaker 1: not stopping fights? What do you think?

1532
01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:31,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's on a tough little run right now. I

1533
01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:34,920
Speaker 2: do think Herb is still in the prime of his career.

1534
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:36,760
Speaker 2: I hope, Luke, But I feel like we've had the

1535
01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:39,680
Speaker 2: Herb Dean discussion more than we should have over the

1536
01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:42,639
Speaker 2: past year. This Ben Rothwell fight is the reference point

1537
01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:45,120
Speaker 2: where what's the guy's name, Rogerio Delima?

1538
01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:46,720
Speaker 1: Is that correct? Yeah?

1539
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:48,679
Speaker 2: I mean he put it on him. That was shocking.

1540
01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:50,640
Speaker 2: I mean he put it on him. He heard him

1541
01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:53,360
Speaker 2: with a left hook. Into Delma's credit, he knows how

1542
01:10:53,439 --> 01:10:55,240
Speaker 2: to finish a guy when he's got him. Hurt. But yes,

1543
01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:59,000
Speaker 2: there was a lot of stop start going on. Was

1544
01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:02,479
Speaker 2: that method called Luke the stop start method? Yeah, well

1545
01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:04,880
Speaker 2: we've all practiced that in high school right there. I mean,

1546
01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:07,479
Speaker 2: you gotta make a you got to make a decision

1547
01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:09,680
Speaker 2: and stick with it. Herb Okay, yeah, I mean what

1548
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:11,439
Speaker 2: do we do about it? I don't know. I hope

1549
01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:13,920
Speaker 2: the you know, the Nevada Stay Athletic commissioner whoever, has

1550
01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:16,639
Speaker 2: a nice little chat and just says, come on, bro,

1551
01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:19,040
Speaker 2: because I felt like he didn't know what he was doing.

1552
01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:20,320
Speaker 2: That was that was a bad sequence.

1553
01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:23,439
Speaker 1: Look, yeah, I mean here's what I would say. I

1554
01:11:23,439 --> 01:11:26,200
Speaker 1: think it was. I've talked about this one. I did

1555
01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:29,240
Speaker 1: my radio show for series XM years ago. I believe

1556
01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:32,000
Speaker 1: it was Boston University. Although if I'm wrong about that,

1557
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:34,040
Speaker 1: feel free dida dead wrongly because I don't know for sure.

1558
01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:38,600
Speaker 1: But there was a major study done by a university

1559
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:41,800
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure was Boston University that looked at or

1560
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:44,840
Speaker 1: maybe it was commissioned by MLB, but they looked at

1561
01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:49,000
Speaker 1: the strength of refer umpiring in baseball and what they

1562
01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:51,639
Speaker 1: found was a lot of different things. But the biggest

1563
01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:55,880
Speaker 1: takeaway that I had from it was the longer tenured

1564
01:11:56,360 --> 01:11:58,960
Speaker 1: umpires in Major League Baseball, so we're talking upwards of

1565
01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:03,360
Speaker 1: twenty plus years scored the worst. They actually did the

1566
01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:07,760
Speaker 1: worst job out of anyone, including brand new umpires. So

1567
01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:09,800
Speaker 1: you're asking, well, where was the sweet spot? It turned

1568
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:13,559
Speaker 1: out the sweet spot was around ten years or so,

1569
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:16,479
Speaker 1: five to ten years in certain cases, So thos folks

1570
01:12:16,479 --> 01:12:19,000
Speaker 1: who had a lot of experience under their belt, but

1571
01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:22,879
Speaker 1: not like a ton. Now, what would explain the reasons

1572
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 1: why there would be this drop off and performance. Some

1573
01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:27,360
Speaker 1: of those are very related to baseball that may not

1574
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:30,080
Speaker 1: play any role here. All I mean to say is

1575
01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:32,400
Speaker 1: the one thing I would argue we see is we

1576
01:12:32,439 --> 01:12:36,519
Speaker 1: sometimes associate tenure. Oh they've had the most tenure, that

1577
01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:39,479
Speaker 1: must mean they're the most qualified. And I actually feel

1578
01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:42,080
Speaker 1: like people start to get washed the closer they get

1579
01:12:42,120 --> 01:12:44,800
Speaker 1: to fifty. I mean that sincerely. I actually think that

1580
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:48,879
Speaker 1: their judgment sometimes sometimes needs to be reevaluated at different intervals.

1581
01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:50,760
Speaker 1: What I would want to find out, and there's no

1582
01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:52,960
Speaker 1: way to know this, is if you could test referees

1583
01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:56,320
Speaker 1: now for their competency on the job, what cohort in

1584
01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:58,599
Speaker 1: terms of how long they've been on the job would

1585
01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:00,920
Speaker 1: score the best. We just soume if they've been on

1586
01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:03,080
Speaker 1: the job the longest, that would be the case. But

1587
01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:05,320
Speaker 1: we know for a fact in Major League Baseball it's

1588
01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:08,160
Speaker 1: the exact opposite. I think there might be some lesson

1589
01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:10,360
Speaker 1: to learn from that in terms of officiating more generally.

1590
01:13:10,479 --> 01:13:13,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's worse agism than you're about to see. And

1591
01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:14,400
Speaker 2: have you seen this shit with?

1592
01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:16,960
Speaker 1: How is it agism? If it's based in fact?

1593
01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:18,840
Speaker 2: That's the thing I can't I can't make jokes in

1594
01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:20,479
Speaker 2: this I don't think I know. I don't think I

1595
01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:23,400
Speaker 2: can name a boxing referee or sorry, boxing judge under

1596
01:13:23,439 --> 01:13:25,200
Speaker 2: the age of fifty to your point, I don't think

1597
01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:26,000
Speaker 2: I can find.

1598
01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:28,160
Speaker 1: Right and like boxing judging might be one of the

1599
01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:30,639
Speaker 1: worst fucking things ever, you know. So there you go,

1600
01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:36,040
Speaker 1: all right? From Jimmy underscore read, Hey, that's something. How

1601
01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:38,479
Speaker 1: would you guys see a fight between Robert Whitaker and

1602
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:41,519
Speaker 1: Kamara Usbin playing out at one eighty five? I'd probably

1603
01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:43,240
Speaker 1: see it with my eyes BC. What about you?

1604
01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:44,960
Speaker 2: Wow? All right?

1605
01:13:45,040 --> 01:13:45,320
Speaker 3: All right?

1606
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:46,200
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1607
01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:49,440
Speaker 2: Covered with my dad joke case there. I like that.

1608
01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:53,160
Speaker 2: You know, it's a great idea. I do think, you know,

1609
01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:56,240
Speaker 2: because Kamarrow in Israel out of time, you have not

1610
01:13:56,320 --> 01:13:58,680
Speaker 2: wanted to fight each other unless, as Kamorrow says, you

1611
01:13:58,680 --> 01:14:00,599
Speaker 2: put one hundred and fifty million down on the table,

1612
01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:04,599
Speaker 2: And sorry, guys, pre or post ZUFA, I ain't doing

1613
01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:07,920
Speaker 2: that anytime soon. If Robert Whittaker wins this, out of

1614
01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:09,960
Speaker 2: sign your rematch, which I think they just recently announced,

1615
01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:13,280
Speaker 2: will be in February. Now, Luke, there's obviously a great

1616
01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:14,800
Speaker 2: chance we could see a third fight between them, and

1617
01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:17,000
Speaker 2: I do think that this has a shot at being

1618
01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:20,479
Speaker 2: you know, historic historical rivalry for this era. But for

1619
01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:22,720
Speaker 2: all we know, Luke, Robert whittickuld could be the next

1620
01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:26,600
Speaker 2: middleweight champion again, and that would be the opportunity for

1621
01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:31,320
Speaker 2: Kamara to really try to enter goat dumb and how

1622
01:14:31,320 --> 01:14:34,120
Speaker 2: would it go down. I would favor Robert Whittaker because

1623
01:14:34,160 --> 01:14:36,599
Speaker 2: I think he's the most well rounded fighter in the

1624
01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:40,760
Speaker 2: game today, and I think that the size difference would

1625
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:44,360
Speaker 2: give his more well rounded skills than Usman an advantage.

1626
01:14:45,080 --> 01:14:47,000
Speaker 2: I've got to see it with my eyes that Usman

1627
01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:50,240
Speaker 2: can be as physically dominant in the higher weight class.

1628
01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:52,280
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, I'm not gonna I'm not

1629
01:14:52,320 --> 01:14:54,200
Speaker 2: saying he can't compete for the title there. I just

1630
01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:56,120
Speaker 2: I kind of have to see it against somebody as

1631
01:14:56,120 --> 01:14:56,960
Speaker 2: great as Whittaker.

1632
01:14:57,479 --> 01:14:59,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, Whitaker's gonna be hard to hold. He's gonna be

1633
01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:02,160
Speaker 1: hard to hold down. He's got great scrambling, great anti wrestling.

1634
01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:04,639
Speaker 1: I would say that the wrestling of Kamaru is gonna

1635
01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:07,080
Speaker 1: be in some ways worse but in some ways better

1636
01:15:07,120 --> 01:15:09,200
Speaker 1: than the wrestling of Joel Romero. So like, oh, well,

1637
01:15:09,240 --> 01:15:12,559
Speaker 1: he could. You know, Joel Romero had trouble for ten rounds,

1638
01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:16,040
Speaker 1: but like you know, it's a very different situation for

1639
01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:19,160
Speaker 1: a lot of reasons. So it'd be I, listen, could

1640
01:15:19,240 --> 01:15:22,439
Speaker 1: Kamara Usman beat him? Yes, I think he could, but

1641
01:15:22,680 --> 01:15:24,040
Speaker 1: I think it'd be a pretty tough fight.

1642
01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:26,360
Speaker 2: And you know, yeah, i'd rather him Dare to be

1643
01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:29,479
Speaker 2: great there than than Canelo or please or Nick Diaz?

1644
01:15:29,880 --> 01:15:32,680
Speaker 2: Who just said? Who just said that Kamorrow should fight

1645
01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:35,760
Speaker 2: Nick Diaz next? Did somebody say that? Or was that

1646
01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:38,800
Speaker 2: they said, oh, they said Hamzat should fight Nick Diaz next?

1647
01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:41,519
Speaker 1: Maybe it was the Weighing In podcast? Was that it.

1648
01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:43,479
Speaker 2: I'd have to check if that actually happened, But if

1649
01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:46,240
Speaker 2: that did happen, then we got to get this Josh

1650
01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:47,679
Speaker 2: Thompson rematch sooner than later.

1651
01:15:47,680 --> 01:15:50,559
Speaker 1: All right, I'll call him. I'll set it up for you.

1652
01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:54,639
Speaker 1: All right. Next, someone would just the worst fucking name.

1653
01:15:54,720 --> 01:15:57,240
Speaker 1: I mean, imagine having this name on Instagram and then

1654
01:15:57,280 --> 01:16:00,000
Speaker 1: expecting people to find your account like you're never gonna

1655
01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:03,320
Speaker 1: to get followers. Okay, what was a car you guys

1656
01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:07,679
Speaker 1: lusted after as teenagers? If any I noticed you two

1657
01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:11,000
Speaker 1: help us hardly talk about cars? Yeah, motherfucker. Because I

1658
01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:14,000
Speaker 1: live in the place with the most expensive childcare in

1659
01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:17,439
Speaker 1: the fucking country. That ship is I could buy two

1660
01:16:17,560 --> 01:16:21,160
Speaker 1: fucking Mercedes per per year with the amount of money

1661
01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:23,240
Speaker 1: I'm spending on fucking daycare.

1662
01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:26,080
Speaker 2: But okay, God, guy's name is Ghost Hardware, Luke, I

1663
01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:26,880
Speaker 2: don't think it's that hard.

1664
01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:29,240
Speaker 1: I know, could you put could you make it? No? Yeah?

1665
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:32,120
Speaker 1: Go then write Ghost Hardware, don't ride number four, fucking

1666
01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:33,200
Speaker 1: gero number four.

1667
01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:37,160
Speaker 2: It's better than like Andre Underscore, Underscore dot zero zero, three,

1668
01:16:37,240 --> 01:16:38,720
Speaker 2: seven nine.

1669
01:16:38,439 --> 01:16:41,200
Speaker 1: But those are those are equally awful, but this one

1670
01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:41,879
Speaker 1: is okay.

1671
01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:43,599
Speaker 2: So I'm not a car guy, you know, I didn't

1672
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:45,800
Speaker 2: grow up with car magazines. I'm more of an A

1673
01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:48,479
Speaker 2: to B efficient guy. But that's because I've really never

1674
01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:51,040
Speaker 2: had money until right now. So thank you Showtime and CBS.

1675
01:16:51,080 --> 01:16:52,559
Speaker 1: That's right, meet me too.

1676
01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:55,120
Speaker 2: Yeah you look want to hear the history of the

1677
01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:55,840
Speaker 2: cars I've owned.

1678
01:16:56,520 --> 01:16:58,960
Speaker 1: Oh actually this is this is actually better for our

1679
01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:00,639
Speaker 1: room servers diaries. But I love this question.

1680
01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:03,919
Speaker 2: Go ahead, okay, okay. On the first day of freshman

1681
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:06,799
Speaker 2: year of community college, for two thousand dollars in nineteen

1682
01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:10,440
Speaker 2: ninety six, I bought a nineteen eighty five Chevy Celebrity.

1683
01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:14,000
Speaker 2: It was gold. It was it was amazing. Uh that

1684
01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:16,800
Speaker 2: was the stallion. It would stall while you're driving, and

1685
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:19,280
Speaker 2: key situations, you can take the key out while you're driving.

1686
01:17:19,960 --> 01:17:21,400
Speaker 1: Dude, I had the exact same shit.

1687
01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:24,400
Speaker 2: Go ahead, yeah, okay. Then when I was twenty one,

1688
01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:27,839
Speaker 2: I bought a brand new two thousand Dodge Neon Salsa

1689
01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:30,160
Speaker 2: Red was a it was a hot car for a minute,

1690
01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:32,880
Speaker 2: luke for a quick minute, and then that thing became

1691
01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:35,559
Speaker 2: an albatross. And then when I got married, I bought

1692
01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:39,960
Speaker 2: a used twenty eleven Honda Cord. Then I bought like

1693
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:43,160
Speaker 2: a two thousand and eight Honda Odyssey Mini van, and

1694
01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:47,679
Speaker 2: then I got like a brand new box Nissan CenTra

1695
01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:48,759
Speaker 2: that sucked the horn.

1696
01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:51,360
Speaker 1: But Luke, how many times? How many times did you

1697
01:17:51,400 --> 01:17:54,240
Speaker 1: sleep in the back of your minivan to avoid driving

1698
01:17:54,280 --> 01:17:54,840
Speaker 1: home drunk?

1699
01:17:55,400 --> 01:17:55,599
Speaker 4: Uh?

1700
01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:58,479
Speaker 2: Never? But I you know, I almost bought a minivan

1701
01:17:58,520 --> 01:18:00,840
Speaker 2: when I was like eighteen, So like you can load

1702
01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:02,800
Speaker 2: up friends and all your hockey. I played hockey at

1703
01:18:02,840 --> 01:18:04,400
Speaker 2: the time. I played all these sports you could have

1704
01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:06,559
Speaker 2: all I just wanted to basically have my entire life

1705
01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:08,639
Speaker 2: and my car, you know, in my van. That would

1706
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:10,439
Speaker 2: have been awesome, Luke. We could have smoked that thing

1707
01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:12,920
Speaker 2: up many times. All right, So right now, Luke, you

1708
01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:16,960
Speaker 2: know I bought a twenty twenty Orange super crosscheck that

1709
01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:19,920
Speaker 2: you have dubbed the Indigo Girls Mobile.

1710
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:24,360
Speaker 1: But uh, Melissa egeile it locky. You drive on the

1711
01:18:24,360 --> 01:18:25,240
Speaker 1: way to Lilith Fair.

1712
01:18:25,400 --> 01:18:27,840
Speaker 2: It's sporty, it's efficient, it's got a sun roof, it

1713
01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:30,080
Speaker 2: gets great gas mileage, it's safe as shave.

1714
01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:33,000
Speaker 1: And if you want to hear Robbie Shankar, just play

1715
01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:35,120
Speaker 1: the sitar and jam sessions.

1716
01:18:35,240 --> 01:18:38,960
Speaker 2: Dude. That was Maha Vishnu Orchestra, John McLaughlin and company.

1717
01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:41,439
Speaker 2: Well Cobb them on the drums. That was awesome.

1718
01:18:41,479 --> 01:18:41,800
Speaker 1: All right.

1719
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:44,599
Speaker 2: So, Luke, this is the first car I've actually like

1720
01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:48,160
Speaker 2: bought with intention that I wanted. I do. It's not

1721
01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:52,280
Speaker 2: manly at all, but I do tend to like smaller, sporty,

1722
01:18:52,439 --> 01:18:55,040
Speaker 2: efficient cars. There's nothing manly at all about that. So yeah,

1723
01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:57,519
Speaker 2: I suck in a car conversation. But to the spirit

1724
01:18:57,560 --> 01:19:01,519
Speaker 2: of the question, what cars have I lusted over my youth? Luke?

1725
01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:04,680
Speaker 2: When I started driving, you know, it was my dream car.

1726
01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:08,200
Speaker 2: It was like a brand new nineteen ninety eight Dodge.

1727
01:19:08,280 --> 01:19:10,200
Speaker 2: What'd you call those big SUVs they had.

1728
01:19:10,120 --> 01:19:12,400
Speaker 1: Remember what I'm talking about, Vans?

1729
01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:14,840
Speaker 2: No, that the damn Dodge just uv you know what

1730
01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:15,559
Speaker 2: I'm talking about.

1731
01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:17,800
Speaker 1: Well, the truck, the Dodge truck is the ram. I

1732
01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:19,120
Speaker 1: don't know about the rest of the Dorrengo.

1733
01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:23,000
Speaker 2: The Dodge, the ninety eight Dodge Durgo I thought had

1734
01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:26,120
Speaker 2: a great, great look. And then I also really wanted

1735
01:19:26,120 --> 01:19:29,719
Speaker 2: that that boat. It came out in the early two thousands.

1736
01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:31,880
Speaker 2: It was a Cadillac and it was like a two

1737
01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:34,400
Speaker 2: door and it had like a real had the north

1738
01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:37,639
Speaker 2: Star engine. I lust it after that car for a while, Luke.

1739
01:19:37,680 --> 01:19:40,160
Speaker 2: As you can see, I really don't have a stake

1740
01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:42,280
Speaker 2: at this car at this table for this conversation, I.

1741
01:19:42,240 --> 01:19:44,600
Speaker 1: Really I've never been a car guy either. You know,

1742
01:19:44,720 --> 01:19:46,720
Speaker 1: my parents never were car people. No one of my

1743
01:19:46,760 --> 01:19:50,640
Speaker 1: family's really a car person. So and you know, I

1744
01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:53,519
Speaker 1: didn't have money until now, and now I don't because

1745
01:19:54,120 --> 01:19:57,200
Speaker 1: I live in an extremely expensive city. But what I

1746
01:19:57,200 --> 01:19:59,479
Speaker 1: would say is, here's my list of cars. See this

1747
01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:02,559
Speaker 1: is a story. So my brother was two years older

1748
01:20:02,560 --> 01:20:04,880
Speaker 1: than me, so my dad bought us when we were

1749
01:20:04,880 --> 01:20:06,680
Speaker 1: in high school at the same time, so I was

1750
01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:08,880
Speaker 1: a freshman, my brother was a junior, so we had

1751
01:20:08,920 --> 01:20:11,559
Speaker 1: two years together. My dad bought us a car. My

1752
01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:13,120
Speaker 1: brother got to drive it most of the time, but

1753
01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:16,200
Speaker 1: he was He took us. This is a true fucking so.

1754
01:20:16,240 --> 01:20:17,960
Speaker 1: Remember this is the guy that would hand out Roy

1755
01:20:18,040 --> 01:20:22,240
Speaker 1: Rogers coupons on Halloween, Right, this is my dad. You

1756
01:20:22,320 --> 01:20:25,639
Speaker 1: know that like when they apprehend drug dealers at certain

1757
01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:30,400
Speaker 1: times they can confiscate their property. Right, Yes, my dad

1758
01:20:30,439 --> 01:20:33,280
Speaker 1: took us to a government auction of yeahs.

1759
01:20:33,479 --> 01:20:35,519
Speaker 2: I always wanted to go there and buy some really

1760
01:20:35,520 --> 01:20:36,439
Speaker 2: cool show cheap.

1761
01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:40,040
Speaker 1: So actually the car ended up being pretty good in

1762
01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:42,679
Speaker 1: terms of, like, you know, your first car for nothing.

1763
01:20:42,720 --> 01:20:44,880
Speaker 1: I think my dad paid like four grand or something

1764
01:20:45,200 --> 01:20:45,559
Speaker 1: and got it.

1765
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:48,040
Speaker 2: Wait, is your dad in general? A cheapskate.

1766
01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:53,080
Speaker 1: Oh god, dude, my dad won't spend money on a

1767
01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:55,760
Speaker 1: fucking my dad just you know my dad. My dad

1768
01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:57,200
Speaker 1: just loves to have his money just sit in the

1769
01:20:57,280 --> 01:20:58,599
Speaker 1: bank and just do nothing.

1770
01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:01,160
Speaker 2: Unless it's an international he will not open that.

1771
01:21:02,680 --> 01:21:05,240
Speaker 1: Even then he's too cheap. Even then, he's too cheap.

1772
01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:08,360
Speaker 1: But here, so we got a white Chevy Corsica. Was

1773
01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:11,599
Speaker 1: the first car I ever drove. So then I've seen

1774
01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:14,120
Speaker 1: the worst piece of shit, and then I inherited it

1775
01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:17,519
Speaker 1: to college. You ever seen that scene in Bill Murray's

1776
01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:20,000
Speaker 1: Stripes when they park in front of the fire hydrant

1777
01:21:20,120 --> 01:21:21,680
Speaker 1: and the guy comes out of his shop. He's like,

1778
01:21:21,680 --> 01:21:23,800
Speaker 1: you can't park that here. He's like, oh no, no, sir,

1779
01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:27,479
Speaker 1: we're not parking parking the car, we're abandoning keep it.

1780
01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:28,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's dude.

1781
01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:31,680
Speaker 1: That's literally what I did to this car my freshman year.

1782
01:21:31,720 --> 01:21:34,400
Speaker 1: The brakes got so bad when I drove to college

1783
01:21:34,439 --> 01:21:38,120
Speaker 1: because I lived my sophomore year off campus on an apartment,

1784
01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:40,600
Speaker 1: I couldn't hit the brakes. I had to milk the

1785
01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:44,720
Speaker 1: emergency brake to go downhill so I wouldn't hit anybody, right,

1786
01:21:45,360 --> 01:21:47,519
Speaker 1: So finally one day the brakes just didn't work, and

1787
01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:49,960
Speaker 1: I coasted to a stop and I just left the

1788
01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:52,000
Speaker 1: motherfucker there and that was the end of it. That

1789
01:21:52,040 --> 01:21:56,320
Speaker 1: was the end of that car's ride. After that, I

1790
01:21:56,360 --> 01:22:00,559
Speaker 1: came back here. I had a Toyota with no HUBB caps,

1791
01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:05,080
Speaker 1: two door, the window didn't roll down except for five inches,

1792
01:22:05,439 --> 01:22:06,800
Speaker 1: and it had no AC.

1793
01:22:07,240 --> 01:22:09,400
Speaker 2: Cl cling the cloth ceiling that would fall.

1794
01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:12,759
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that comes down. And it was stick shift.

1795
01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:15,920
Speaker 1: So one day I had to drive in terrible traffic

1796
01:22:15,920 --> 01:22:18,320
Speaker 1: from DC to Fredericksburg, which is not very far but

1797
01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:22,040
Speaker 1: if traffic is bad, took two hours. Two hours in August,

1798
01:22:22,080 --> 01:22:25,000
Speaker 1: no AC stop and go with a stick shift. I

1799
01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:26,880
Speaker 1: came out of there looking like I could make fucking

1800
01:22:26,960 --> 01:22:29,439
Speaker 1: bantam weight. I guaranteed you so much.

1801
01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:31,400
Speaker 2: You did not get laid the history of you owning

1802
01:22:31,439 --> 01:22:32,519
Speaker 2: that car. I guarantee it.

1803
01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:35,040
Speaker 1: I think that's right. Actually, I think that was.

1804
01:22:35,080 --> 01:22:36,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course it is.

1805
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:38,479
Speaker 1: That was like the low period of my life. So

1806
01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:41,759
Speaker 1: then after that I bought a used purple Toyota Camri,

1807
01:22:42,240 --> 01:22:45,719
Speaker 1: which my neighbor hit me and totaled. And then after

1808
01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:48,280
Speaker 1: that I bought my first at the time, it was

1809
01:22:48,320 --> 01:22:49,960
Speaker 1: a brand new car. It's what I drive now. This

1810
01:22:50,120 --> 01:22:54,479
Speaker 1: was twenty sixteen and I got a Mazda CX five

1811
01:22:54,920 --> 01:22:58,880
Speaker 1: like SUV. Whatever, what if I coveted I've always coveted

1812
01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:01,200
Speaker 1: Mercedes S Class. That's what that's always been the dream.

1813
01:23:01,520 --> 01:23:03,840
Speaker 2: Wow, we sound so sad. There's probably people with like

1814
01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:06,559
Speaker 2: giant Ford F one fifties and sports cars and be

1815
01:23:06,640 --> 01:23:08,400
Speaker 2: you know, and they're they're just looking down on us.

1816
01:23:08,479 --> 01:23:10,519
Speaker 1: Luke's so, I mean, I'm in the market for a

1817
01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:12,240
Speaker 1: car now. My wife and I have talked about it.

1818
01:23:12,280 --> 01:23:14,599
Speaker 1: But here's a couple of problems. It's like, one, I

1819
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:15,960
Speaker 1: want to wait till my daughter can go to pre

1820
01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:19,599
Speaker 1: K three because our bills are fucking insane. Number one.

1821
01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:21,560
Speaker 1: Number two, it doesn't even benefit me to have a

1822
01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:23,720
Speaker 1: big ass car. Dude, where am I gonna park it

1823
01:23:23,720 --> 01:23:26,200
Speaker 1: in this fucking city? Like, it doesn't do me. I

1824
01:23:26,240 --> 01:23:28,960
Speaker 1: need something sleeking smaller just to get around and do shit.

1825
01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:31,360
Speaker 2: So dude, you should first of all, you should get

1826
01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:32,920
Speaker 2: out of the city and move to the suburbs. You

1827
01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:36,880
Speaker 2: should move to town, Luke, my town. We could be

1828
01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:41,320
Speaker 2: like like local neighbors. We could coach like youth soccer together.

1829
01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:43,080
Speaker 2: This would be awesome, Luke. We can go to like

1830
01:23:43,120 --> 01:23:45,759
Speaker 2: the school functions and make fun of the other snobby parents,

1831
01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:46,240
Speaker 2: Like this'd be.

1832
01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:49,200
Speaker 1: Great if someone cut you a one hundred grand check.

1833
01:23:49,200 --> 01:23:51,000
Speaker 1: You didn't have to spend the whole thing, which you

1834
01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:53,519
Speaker 1: had one hundred grand buying a car. What would you

1835
01:23:53,520 --> 01:23:55,240
Speaker 1: buy that day? Walk into the lot and just give

1836
01:23:55,280 --> 01:23:55,760
Speaker 1: them the check?

1837
01:23:59,720 --> 01:24:02,960
Speaker 2: You know, when you're you know you're not a car

1838
01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:04,639
Speaker 2: guy when you don't have a go to answer.

1839
01:24:04,520 --> 01:24:08,200
Speaker 1: Luke, Yeah, exactly. I've always been a Mercedes, like a

1840
01:24:08,240 --> 01:24:10,800
Speaker 1: g wagon type of thing. That's where I would go.

1841
01:24:10,840 --> 01:24:12,160
Speaker 1: But I'm not a big car guy, you know.

1842
01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:12,439
Speaker 2: Yea.

1843
01:24:12,560 --> 01:24:15,040
Speaker 1: By the way, can you can you repair your car?

1844
01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:17,800
Speaker 2: No? No, no, hell no no.

1845
01:24:17,960 --> 01:24:20,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. I tried being the car guy once. Here's what

1846
01:24:20,439 --> 01:24:24,040
Speaker 1: I'll say. I tried to teach myself, which is not smart.

1847
01:24:24,320 --> 01:24:27,560
Speaker 1: The best I ever did was in that Chevy Corsica.

1848
01:24:27,680 --> 01:24:30,640
Speaker 1: I was able one time to change the alternator. I

1849
01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:33,080
Speaker 1: actually did that with a timing belt took everything off.

1850
01:24:33,640 --> 01:24:36,840
Speaker 1: But uh, even that was a bit of a fucking

1851
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:40,639
Speaker 1: h nightmare to do. And I was like, you know what, man,

1852
01:24:40,640 --> 01:24:42,200
Speaker 1: I don't really I don't care about knowing this ship.

1853
01:24:42,240 --> 01:24:43,360
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna someone else do it.

1854
01:24:43,360 --> 01:24:45,679
Speaker 2: So let's hear from the staff here. Gaff has sent

1855
01:24:45,800 --> 01:24:48,360
Speaker 2: us a message saying he would get a Challenger or

1856
01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:52,880
Speaker 2: a g Wagon, and Jay says another tesla.

1857
01:24:52,760 --> 01:24:55,840
Speaker 1: Look, Jay, Jay loves to drive drunk and then sit

1858
01:24:55,920 --> 01:24:58,240
Speaker 1: in his car and let it take him home and

1859
01:24:58,560 --> 01:24:59,000
Speaker 1: puts the.

1860
01:24:58,960 --> 01:25:01,720
Speaker 2: Weight on the steering wheel. All state troopers, please be

1861
01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:04,200
Speaker 2: on the lookout for this guy. My stallion was so

1862
01:25:04,360 --> 01:25:06,479
Speaker 2: dangerous at the end of it, Luke that my dad

1863
01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:10,000
Speaker 2: was like, I I do not take that anywhere outside

1864
01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:11,599
Speaker 2: of town because I would go down to my buddy

1865
01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:15,080
Speaker 2: Ed's college and Manhattan College and in the Bronx and

1866
01:25:15,120 --> 01:25:16,920
Speaker 2: New York to party and stuff and try to hook

1867
01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:19,720
Speaker 2: up with chicks. And one time he was like, you

1868
01:25:19,760 --> 01:25:21,960
Speaker 2: are not allowed to take that because it's gonna break down.

1869
01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:24,520
Speaker 2: So what happened, Luke was I knew his work schedule,

1870
01:25:24,720 --> 01:25:26,840
Speaker 2: So Brian Nurnberger and I we got in the car

1871
01:25:26,960 --> 01:25:28,320
Speaker 2: and I was like, look, come over my house and

1872
01:25:28,320 --> 01:25:30,439
Speaker 2: then we'll hop in and we'll leave before my dad

1873
01:25:30,479 --> 01:25:33,120
Speaker 2: gets home. And then Luke, he got home just as

1874
01:25:33,120 --> 01:25:35,160
Speaker 2: I was pulling out, and he got in the car

1875
01:25:35,320 --> 01:25:37,000
Speaker 2: and he was like, I told you right in front

1876
01:25:37,040 --> 01:25:38,400
Speaker 2: of my friend. He's like I told you not to

1877
01:25:38,400 --> 01:25:40,400
Speaker 2: take that piece of shit to New York again. So

1878
01:25:40,439 --> 01:25:43,040
Speaker 2: he goes, here's the deal. When that piece of shit

1879
01:25:43,080 --> 01:25:45,599
Speaker 2: breaks down in six point eighty four, take the plates off,

1880
01:25:45,880 --> 01:25:47,800
Speaker 2: leave it on the side of the road, and get

1881
01:25:48,040 --> 01:25:50,080
Speaker 2: your own ride home. And then he went and slammed

1882
01:25:50,120 --> 01:25:52,519
Speaker 2: the door. And then and then Nuran looked at me.

1883
01:25:52,560 --> 01:25:54,880
Speaker 2: He was like, should we still go? I was like, yeah, dude,

1884
01:25:54,960 --> 01:25:57,240
Speaker 2: let's look at this, you know. And actually, I'm that

1885
01:25:57,360 --> 01:25:59,600
Speaker 2: ride home. I'm that ride down. I did one of

1886
01:25:59,640 --> 01:26:03,320
Speaker 2: the all time dangerous moves of like the exit was

1887
01:26:03,360 --> 01:26:05,479
Speaker 2: coming in, I was going too fast in the middle lane, Luke,

1888
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:07,720
Speaker 2: and I do like a fast and the furious slide

1889
01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:10,120
Speaker 2: to pass the person in the right lane and just

1890
01:26:10,240 --> 01:26:12,160
Speaker 2: make it off the exit ramp in time. Oh you

1891
01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:13,960
Speaker 2: know when you would regularly put your life on the

1892
01:26:13,960 --> 01:26:16,080
Speaker 2: line for no reason. Those were great days, right.

1893
01:26:16,080 --> 01:26:19,320
Speaker 1: Luke, Yeah, they were all right. This is an easy

1894
01:26:19,320 --> 01:26:22,400
Speaker 1: one to answer the answers you. But at BCG three

1895
01:26:22,479 --> 01:26:24,880
Speaker 1: four seven, which one of you would win in a

1896
01:26:24,920 --> 01:26:27,320
Speaker 1: one mile race? For sure, BC would win in a

1897
01:26:27,360 --> 01:26:28,439
Speaker 1: one mile race, which a.

1898
01:26:28,479 --> 01:26:32,479
Speaker 2: Best I'm not sure there's a distance that I can't

1899
01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:34,120
Speaker 2: beat you at.

1900
01:26:35,000 --> 01:26:40,719
Speaker 1: Probably probably now I'm washed. I'm like, what's your best

1901
01:26:40,720 --> 01:26:41,840
Speaker 1: time on the mile ever?

1902
01:26:42,800 --> 01:26:43,880
Speaker 2: Five fifty seven?

1903
01:26:44,240 --> 01:26:46,320
Speaker 1: Oh, it's better than mine. That's better than my although

1904
01:26:46,320 --> 01:26:49,320
Speaker 1: I will say no fin again. Yeah, I mean i'm

1905
01:26:49,360 --> 01:26:51,599
Speaker 1: a I'm a I'm a sick. My best ever best

1906
01:26:51,640 --> 01:26:54,519
Speaker 1: ever was plus six let's say six thirty just for

1907
01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:55,799
Speaker 1: shitzing giggles.

1908
01:26:56,120 --> 01:26:57,559
Speaker 2: I did that when I was twenty seven. So I

1909
01:26:57,560 --> 01:27:00,519
Speaker 2: haven't been doing road races in like fifteen years, but

1910
01:27:00,560 --> 01:27:02,800
Speaker 2: I was a pretty good ten k runner as an adult.

1911
01:27:02,920 --> 01:27:04,760
Speaker 1: Luke, Yeah, you're you're you're gonna beat me in all

1912
01:27:04,760 --> 01:27:07,320
Speaker 1: of these for sure. Never I was never like horrible,

1913
01:27:07,320 --> 01:27:11,000
Speaker 1: but it was never my strong suit ever at all. Yeah,

1914
01:27:11,040 --> 01:27:12,960
Speaker 1: my best time, my best. I don't have a I

1915
01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:15,720
Speaker 1: don't know what my best single mile race is, but

1916
01:27:15,760 --> 01:27:18,000
Speaker 1: my best I told you before. My best three mile

1917
01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:19,720
Speaker 1: was when I was like twenty one or twenty two

1918
01:27:19,760 --> 01:27:22,360
Speaker 1: or whatever. No, nineteen, what am I saying? And I

1919
01:27:22,400 --> 01:27:25,000
Speaker 1: did the three miles in nineteen minutes.

1920
01:27:25,400 --> 01:27:27,559
Speaker 2: Oh that's better than that's actually better than my five

1921
01:27:27,680 --> 01:27:30,840
Speaker 2: k best time, So there you go, Luke. Yeah, you're

1922
01:27:30,880 --> 01:27:32,880
Speaker 2: all right, so you're not so Look, we should do

1923
01:27:33,040 --> 01:27:36,000
Speaker 2: like an academic to Cathalon. I mean, didn't we all

1924
01:27:36,120 --> 01:27:37,120
Speaker 2: film things one time?

1925
01:27:37,439 --> 01:27:39,519
Speaker 1: Didn't we shoot one and it just never made the

1926
01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:40,200
Speaker 1: light of day.

1927
01:27:41,200 --> 01:27:42,720
Speaker 2: I mean, I'd love to play you one on one

1928
01:27:42,720 --> 01:27:44,640
Speaker 2: in Hoops, I'd love to have a cooking challenge. What

1929
01:27:44,680 --> 01:27:46,240
Speaker 2: else did they do in Billy Madison Luke?

1930
01:27:46,600 --> 01:27:49,639
Speaker 1: I don't remember. I haven't seen it so long. All right,

1931
01:27:49,680 --> 01:27:51,519
Speaker 1: last one. This was actually a little bit more interesting

1932
01:27:51,560 --> 01:27:54,559
Speaker 1: than you might imagine, because it depends on how you

1933
01:27:54,560 --> 01:27:56,240
Speaker 1: define certain things. So hear me out on this one,

1934
01:27:56,280 --> 01:28:00,000
Speaker 1: all right? From Sea Quizzle ninety three? Rank your favorite

1935
01:28:00,240 --> 01:28:05,360
Speaker 1: pizza chains, I e. Domino's, Pizza Hut, Papa John's BC.

1936
01:28:06,880 --> 01:28:08,960
Speaker 1: Are we only counting those three? I guess you can

1937
01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:12,120
Speaker 1: add in uh little Caesars.

1938
01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:15,519
Speaker 2: Ye, right, which is shit? I mean you absolute you

1939
01:28:15,520 --> 01:28:17,800
Speaker 2: get a large cheese for seven dollars that'll be ready

1940
01:28:17,840 --> 01:28:19,320
Speaker 2: in one second. But that's about it.

1941
01:28:20,880 --> 01:28:23,479
Speaker 1: And also what about pizza? Do you eat the pizza

1942
01:28:23,520 --> 01:28:25,439
Speaker 1: at seven to eleven? You fucking animal?

1943
01:28:25,880 --> 01:28:29,519
Speaker 2: Dude? Before, before my liver was diagnosed as dead, I

1944
01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:32,080
Speaker 2: would get the ninety nine cent slices at Crumbling Farms,

1945
01:28:32,960 --> 01:28:35,679
Speaker 2: maybe four days a week. I'm gonna admit it. Look,

1946
01:28:35,720 --> 01:28:37,400
Speaker 2: at some point in your life. You have to come

1947
01:28:37,439 --> 01:28:40,799
Speaker 2: clean Luke. Okay, if I was driving by that area,

1948
01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:42,840
Speaker 2: I would stop. I mean that's how it was, you know.

1949
01:28:43,520 --> 01:28:47,240
Speaker 1: All right, So rank pizza chains.

1950
01:28:47,000 --> 01:28:49,960
Speaker 2: All right, pizza chains suck, but pizza, as we all know,

1951
01:28:50,080 --> 01:28:54,040
Speaker 2: like gross sex, is really never that bad, right. I

1952
01:28:54,040 --> 01:28:56,360
Speaker 2: think Pizza Hut of that group. I mean, especially if

1953
01:28:56,400 --> 01:28:58,400
Speaker 2: you can find an actual pizza hut, we can go

1954
01:28:58,400 --> 01:28:59,839
Speaker 2: in and sit down and go inside.

1955
01:28:59,840 --> 01:29:02,840
Speaker 1: And they still wants to do that, except pedophiles and

1956
01:29:02,920 --> 01:29:05,320
Speaker 1: serial killers. I mean, who remember they had.

1957
01:29:05,200 --> 01:29:09,240
Speaker 2: The lunchtime buffets that were really cheap and you could

1958
01:29:09,240 --> 01:29:13,880
Speaker 2: get the uh oh dude, gaff just slid in with tomorrow. Yes, yes, borrow,

1959
01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:14,439
Speaker 2: but it's borrow.

1960
01:29:14,520 --> 01:29:16,360
Speaker 1: But what about Ceci's Pizza.

1961
01:29:17,360 --> 01:29:20,880
Speaker 2: Okay, so CC's buffet, which in where my parents live

1962
01:29:20,880 --> 01:29:23,080
Speaker 2: in Daytona Beach, Florida. I think it's still four dollars

1963
01:29:23,080 --> 01:29:27,519
Speaker 2: per adult to eat, just a disgusting amount. It's always

1964
01:29:27,520 --> 01:29:30,640
Speaker 2: a great idea on paper until you you literally are like,

1965
01:29:30,640 --> 01:29:32,479
Speaker 2: can I get a stretched out ConA hanger? I gotta

1966
01:29:32,600 --> 01:29:34,120
Speaker 2: i gotta get this ship out, you know what I mean.

1967
01:29:34,160 --> 01:29:36,759
Speaker 2: I gotta, I've gotta, I've got to off myself right now, please,

1968
01:29:36,840 --> 01:29:40,120
Speaker 2: I mean no that that that's grossest ship. So I'm

1969
01:29:40,120 --> 01:29:41,960
Speaker 2: gonna put tomorrows. You know, you go to your mall,

1970
01:29:42,080 --> 01:29:44,559
Speaker 2: local mall. That's a good ass slice of pizza, but

1971
01:29:44,680 --> 01:29:47,160
Speaker 2: pizza Hut with the damn buffet, Luke in person the

1972
01:29:47,200 --> 01:29:49,559
Speaker 2: rear times you can find that. That's got to be

1973
01:29:49,600 --> 01:29:50,599
Speaker 2: the right up there too.

1974
01:29:51,120 --> 01:29:52,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you can go sit next to all the

1975
01:29:52,600 --> 01:29:54,760
Speaker 1: people who are wearing the skin of their victims.

1976
01:29:55,040 --> 01:29:57,280
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, all the people who have like those sweatshirts

1977
01:29:57,280 --> 01:30:02,080
Speaker 2: with like wolves on it. You know those ladies, right, Luke, Yeah, howling?

1978
01:30:02,280 --> 01:30:05,000
Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, I don't know where I would put

1979
01:30:05,120 --> 01:30:09,240
Speaker 1: number one because I don't know, Like this is tough

1980
01:30:09,240 --> 01:30:11,280
Speaker 1: for me. I will say I had a friend who

1981
01:30:11,320 --> 01:30:13,360
Speaker 1: was so fucking cheap. This is a true story from

1982
01:30:13,439 --> 01:30:16,160
Speaker 1: high school. This is motherfucker was the cheapest person on earth.

1983
01:30:16,880 --> 01:30:18,360
Speaker 1: We were going to go to c CS one day

1984
01:30:18,360 --> 01:30:19,800
Speaker 1: because this is high school year. You have no money

1985
01:30:19,800 --> 01:30:21,160
Speaker 1: and what else are you gonna do. So we were

1986
01:30:21,160 --> 01:30:23,240
Speaker 1: going and he was trying to like hook up with

1987
01:30:23,280 --> 01:30:24,640
Speaker 1: this girl who's in the car in front of us.

1988
01:30:24,640 --> 01:30:26,519
Speaker 1: Were all had planned to go in like a caravan

1989
01:30:26,600 --> 01:30:29,799
Speaker 1: or whatever, and she turns to go into the CCS.

1990
01:30:29,840 --> 01:30:32,559
Speaker 1: I'm riding with him, he's driving, and we just keep

1991
01:30:32,640 --> 01:30:35,080
Speaker 1: going and I'm like, motherfucker the c seeds, where are

1992
01:30:35,080 --> 01:30:37,760
Speaker 1: you going. He's like, here's the plan. I'm gonna drive

1993
01:30:37,880 --> 01:30:40,400
Speaker 1: far enough so that she goes in, doesn't wait for me,

1994
01:30:40,920 --> 01:30:44,080
Speaker 1: and then pays for her own CCS. Then I'm gonna

1995
01:30:44,120 --> 01:30:45,880
Speaker 1: go in, sit down and be like, oh my bad,

1996
01:30:45,920 --> 01:30:48,559
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I didn't I didn't have any money, and

1997
01:30:48,600 --> 01:30:51,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, it's five dollars all you can eat.

1998
01:30:51,160 --> 01:30:52,439
Speaker 1: How fucking broke are you?

1999
01:30:53,040 --> 01:30:53,479
Speaker 2: Are you?

2000
01:30:54,160 --> 01:30:58,800
Speaker 1: He's like, I'm not pay for that shit. I was like, okay, okay.

2001
01:30:58,400 --> 01:31:02,599
Speaker 2: All right, I've done things, not that, but in that category,

2002
01:31:02,640 --> 01:31:03,160
Speaker 2: I've done things.

2003
01:31:03,240 --> 01:31:05,720
Speaker 1: Luke Yah. This motherfucker. One time, the same guy, this

2004
01:31:05,840 --> 01:31:07,840
Speaker 1: same guy went up to me. Did you guys ever

2005
01:31:07,920 --> 01:31:12,600
Speaker 1: have like a media play? You ever heard of media play? No?

2006
01:31:13,160 --> 01:31:14,760
Speaker 1: All right? So media play was one of these big

2007
01:31:14,760 --> 01:31:16,840
Speaker 1: stores where he had like a bookstore inside, then like

2008
01:31:16,840 --> 01:31:19,639
Speaker 1: a video store inside, and then like a CD store inside,

2009
01:31:19,680 --> 01:31:22,920
Speaker 1: all in one. Obviously, that is no longer a business

2010
01:31:22,920 --> 01:31:24,880
Speaker 1: model that makes any sense whatsoever, but at the time

2011
01:31:24,920 --> 01:31:27,120
Speaker 1: it did, and we would go in there, and my

2012
01:31:27,200 --> 01:31:28,760
Speaker 1: man came up to me. He's like, dude, I got

2013
01:31:28,760 --> 01:31:30,479
Speaker 1: ten bucks, I just need five so I could go

2014
01:31:30,479 --> 01:31:33,240
Speaker 1: buy the new Cake CD. And I was like, all right, fine,

2015
01:31:33,240 --> 01:31:34,120
Speaker 1: I'll hit you with the five.

2016
01:31:34,600 --> 01:31:37,320
Speaker 2: God well it was I could. I could imagine what

2017
01:31:37,400 --> 01:31:40,080
Speaker 2: it looked like, felt like, and smelled like. During that conversation,

2018
01:31:40,160 --> 01:31:43,120
Speaker 2: you just you just basically carved out like my angst

2019
01:31:43,200 --> 01:31:44,240
Speaker 2: nineties years right there.

2020
01:31:44,439 --> 01:31:46,679
Speaker 1: Okay, here's the best part about it. It was four

2021
01:31:46,680 --> 01:31:48,920
Speaker 1: of us who had gone me, the other guy, and

2022
01:31:48,960 --> 01:31:52,320
Speaker 1: then two more friends. This asshole went to all three

2023
01:31:52,360 --> 01:31:55,800
Speaker 1: of us and told us the exact same story, which was, Hey,

2024
01:31:55,920 --> 01:31:58,200
Speaker 1: I have ten dollars, can you just give me five?

2025
01:31:59,040 --> 01:32:01,400
Speaker 1: It worked. He got five from all three of us

2026
01:32:01,439 --> 01:32:04,040
Speaker 1: and then bought his new Cake CD and kept It.

2027
01:32:04,040 --> 01:32:06,160
Speaker 1: Turns out he's actually really really rich these days, but

2028
01:32:07,240 --> 01:32:10,719
Speaker 1: he's a bit of a scam artist. Does that make sense?

2029
01:32:10,920 --> 01:32:12,679
Speaker 2: Was that the same guy who bought all those horse

2030
01:32:12,720 --> 01:32:15,360
Speaker 2: and then you had like decided to just leave them, Luke?

2031
01:32:15,439 --> 01:32:16,000
Speaker 2: Was that guy?

2032
01:32:16,080 --> 01:32:20,080
Speaker 1: No, dude, I've got the worst friends ye ever could,

2033
01:32:21,720 --> 01:32:23,720
Speaker 1: including you. This guy went into Wall Street and made

2034
01:32:23,720 --> 01:32:25,839
Speaker 1: a shitload of money. I'm sure that sounds very surprising

2035
01:32:25,880 --> 01:32:28,800
Speaker 1: to you. But anyway, ranking pizza chains, I actually would

2036
01:32:28,800 --> 01:32:30,679
Speaker 1: put Pizza Hut first as well. I haven't had Pizza

2037
01:32:30,760 --> 01:32:33,800
Speaker 1: Hut in forever. Here's a tough one for me. ABC.

2038
01:32:34,120 --> 01:32:37,559
Speaker 1: Who's your solid number two? Not just in the bathroom,

2039
01:32:37,600 --> 01:32:40,599
Speaker 1: but when you eat Domino's or Papa John's.

2040
01:32:41,680 --> 01:32:44,920
Speaker 2: You know, I had Papa John's so little in my life,

2041
01:32:44,960 --> 01:32:47,799
Speaker 2: Like like, look, little Caesars is just it's the shits

2042
01:32:48,880 --> 01:32:51,160
Speaker 2: do you have? What's that chain? We haven't connected. I

2043
01:32:51,200 --> 01:32:53,360
Speaker 2: never go to anymore people's choice.

2044
01:32:53,720 --> 01:32:58,120
Speaker 1: That's like, okay, in college, we had one called Chinello's

2045
01:32:58,600 --> 01:33:00,840
Speaker 1: and you never had to ask for because their bit

2046
01:33:00,920 --> 01:33:03,200
Speaker 1: was they would always serve it with a big pot

2047
01:33:03,240 --> 01:33:05,200
Speaker 1: of ranch. So you'd call them up at two in

2048
01:33:05,240 --> 01:33:07,120
Speaker 1: the morning and be like, give us a cheese pizza

2049
01:33:07,160 --> 01:33:08,880
Speaker 1: and they'd come in with a huge thing of ranch

2050
01:33:08,920 --> 01:33:11,760
Speaker 1: and everyone would just fucking devour it. That was fun. Fun.

2051
01:33:11,800 --> 01:33:15,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, CCS makes you shit.

2052
01:33:15,280 --> 01:33:19,040
Speaker 1: Like the CCS is, I mean, you know, the rats

2053
01:33:19,080 --> 01:33:21,519
Speaker 1: like Rattitullis and they're putting the thing in the oven

2054
01:33:21,800 --> 01:33:23,479
Speaker 1: and whatnot. I mean it's really gross.

2055
01:33:23,600 --> 01:33:25,720
Speaker 2: You really good about CCS is. You could go up

2056
01:33:25,760 --> 01:33:28,639
Speaker 2: and and they'll put anything on it. You could concoct

2057
01:33:28,680 --> 01:33:31,360
Speaker 2: the most disgusting mix and they'll be like, yeah, we'll

2058
01:33:31,400 --> 01:33:33,559
Speaker 2: make that for your shirts. Cost four dollars to get

2059
01:33:33,560 --> 01:33:35,400
Speaker 2: in here. You can eat whatever you want. Yeah, it's great.

2060
01:33:35,800 --> 01:33:38,160
Speaker 1: All right. Speaking of that, it's time for have you

2061
01:33:38,200 --> 01:33:39,759
Speaker 1: seen this? Let's watch?

2062
01:33:40,240 --> 01:33:42,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you. We SCA with the Globe every week

2063
01:33:42,720 --> 01:33:44,599
Speaker 2: for the highs and lows, the good and bad, the ugly,

2064
01:33:44,680 --> 01:33:47,759
Speaker 2: the in between, mostly the ugly from combat sports and beyond.

2065
01:33:47,800 --> 01:33:54,080
Speaker 2: It's called have you seen this shit? Go ahead? All

2066
01:33:54,160 --> 01:33:56,599
Speaker 2: right special thanks to our guy Gaff for always taking

2067
01:33:56,600 --> 01:33:58,680
Speaker 2: all this bs and putting it on the screen for us.

2068
01:33:58,760 --> 01:34:01,840
Speaker 2: Here we go. UFC fighting in Vegas. Luke featherweight Sean

2069
01:34:01,880 --> 01:34:05,360
Speaker 2: Woodson with the body shot finish on Colin Englin. This

2070
01:34:05,520 --> 01:34:06,120
Speaker 2: was brutal.

2071
01:34:07,960 --> 01:34:09,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, he looked good in this fight.

2072
01:34:09,880 --> 01:34:12,400
Speaker 2: Oh well, look at he gave him them a tumble finger, Luke.

2073
01:34:12,560 --> 01:34:16,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he gave him the he gave him

2074
01:34:16,240 --> 01:34:19,320
Speaker 1: the no, sir, no hiding from that one. Yeah. That's

2075
01:34:19,320 --> 01:34:21,360
Speaker 1: a vicious body shot, dude.

2076
01:34:21,520 --> 01:34:25,000
Speaker 2: Any any human that's never been punched to the body

2077
01:34:25,200 --> 01:34:27,040
Speaker 2: like I mean, you feel like you're dead, Luke.

2078
01:34:27,840 --> 01:34:30,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's I mean, and then he's just putting

2079
01:34:30,000 --> 01:34:34,840
Speaker 1: those right right where they're supposed to go, accurate, voluminous.

2080
01:34:35,680 --> 01:34:37,000
Speaker 1: He looked great, Luke.

2081
01:34:37,040 --> 01:34:39,280
Speaker 2: This undercart had so many bangers we could fill a

2082
01:34:39,280 --> 01:34:43,040
Speaker 2: whole segment with. But how about Welter wait Chaos Williams

2083
01:34:43,080 --> 01:34:44,960
Speaker 2: giving it to Miguel Baieza here.

2084
01:34:46,520 --> 01:34:48,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was sad to see this because I like Miguel.

2085
01:34:48,640 --> 01:34:50,320
Speaker 1: But that's two in a row. I think two in

2086
01:34:50,360 --> 01:34:53,559
Speaker 1: a row. It is only two losses. And uh, he

2087
01:34:53,600 --> 01:34:55,920
Speaker 1: paid for it. You punched you and then just you know,

2088
01:34:55,960 --> 01:34:57,760
Speaker 1: he punches. Then the guy moves into range and then

2089
01:34:57,800 --> 01:34:59,439
Speaker 1: this exchanges with him. This is what I mean about,

2090
01:34:59,479 --> 01:35:04,439
Speaker 1: like you strike when it's fifty to fifty without setting

2091
01:35:04,439 --> 01:35:07,560
Speaker 1: it up. Eventually, this is gonna happen.

2092
01:35:07,640 --> 01:35:09,640
Speaker 2: Luke, little teaser, who will be on what you'll be

2093
01:35:09,680 --> 01:35:12,000
Speaker 2: talking about in today's MK extra credit?

2094
01:35:12,520 --> 01:35:14,479
Speaker 1: So the Woodsond one, for sure, I don't know if

2095
01:35:14,479 --> 01:35:16,280
Speaker 1: I'll get to the Baieza one. We'll talk, We'll talk

2096
01:35:16,280 --> 01:35:18,000
Speaker 1: to some other ones. Uh, I think I have to

2097
01:35:18,160 --> 01:35:20,080
Speaker 1: pull up my list here. I'm also gonna.

2098
01:35:19,800 --> 01:35:24,519
Speaker 2: Get to be lady had a nice win, Luke, he did.

2099
01:35:24,720 --> 01:35:27,439
Speaker 1: I wasn't super blown away by but the youdong Rs

2100
01:35:27,640 --> 01:35:29,679
Speaker 1: fight and then also we're gonna talk about the Joel

2101
01:35:29,720 --> 01:35:31,040
Speaker 1: Alvarez fight as well, or.

2102
01:35:31,000 --> 01:35:34,360
Speaker 2: As I called him on HQ the other day, Vinton Lasell.

2103
01:35:34,720 --> 01:35:37,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, you called him Vinton Lacel and no one corrected you.

2104
01:35:37,560 --> 01:35:39,040
Speaker 2: I'm like that, and I'm like, you know, he's got

2105
01:35:39,040 --> 01:35:42,320
Speaker 2: a great fight against Justin Fortune, who's uh manny Pechio's

2106
01:35:42,360 --> 01:35:44,840
Speaker 2: a strength coach. It's great, It's great, BC, It's great.

2107
01:35:44,880 --> 01:35:48,000
Speaker 2: All right, let's keep it going lightweight. Da On Jong

2108
01:35:48,520 --> 01:35:53,760
Speaker 2: opened this card with two nasty elbows against Kennedy.

2109
01:35:53,760 --> 01:35:57,800
Speaker 4: And zek Wu and z and zchqu I can't ever

2110
01:35:57,840 --> 01:36:02,080
Speaker 4: pronounce his last name properly, lind and then just and

2111
01:36:02,240 --> 01:36:04,120
Speaker 4: just and just goes to work that.

2112
01:36:05,760 --> 01:36:09,120
Speaker 2: Dude. Elbow finishes are just brutal. They should outlaw elbows, Luke,

2113
01:36:09,160 --> 01:36:10,400
Speaker 2: That's like a weapon out there.

2114
01:36:10,360 --> 01:36:12,639
Speaker 1: Right strike force. Did folks forget that?

2115
01:36:13,080 --> 01:36:15,000
Speaker 2: I did forget that? All right, we got a new

2116
01:36:15,160 --> 01:36:17,160
Speaker 2: entry in the Tip to Tip universe, Luke, you actually

2117
01:36:17,200 --> 01:36:20,599
Speaker 2: sent me this yourself, Max Halloween, Yahi Rodriguez and the

2118
01:36:20,640 --> 01:36:21,960
Speaker 2: ambulance afterwards.

2119
01:36:22,240 --> 01:36:25,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, dude, look at their faces. I mean, whatever

2120
01:36:25,800 --> 01:36:29,160
Speaker 1: they got paid it was not enough, not enough at all.

2121
01:36:29,520 --> 01:36:31,600
Speaker 2: I love by the way, I love this. Chandler and

2122
01:36:31,640 --> 01:36:33,599
Speaker 2: Gatchee also had a picture like this in the hospital

2123
01:36:33,680 --> 01:36:36,000
Speaker 2: after should have been on last week's show. Yeah. I

2124
01:36:36,040 --> 01:36:38,320
Speaker 2: love when they do the Rocky and Apollo, you know,

2125
01:36:38,360 --> 01:36:39,559
Speaker 2: meet up in the in the hospital.

2126
01:36:39,840 --> 01:36:42,479
Speaker 1: Everyone loves those I like them too. But you'll make

2127
01:36:42,520 --> 01:36:44,840
Speaker 1: me smile more is if they were in the back

2128
01:36:44,840 --> 01:36:46,960
Speaker 1: of an ambulance with a big ass check for all

2129
01:36:46,960 --> 01:36:48,280
Speaker 1: the money that they actually are worth.

2130
01:36:48,920 --> 01:36:51,599
Speaker 2: And then then that you know that picture that everybody

2131
01:36:51,640 --> 01:36:53,919
Speaker 2: puts up on Twitter all the time of Dana Connor

2132
01:36:54,000 --> 01:36:56,679
Speaker 2: and Lorenzo just like laughing it up over some whiskey

2133
01:36:56,840 --> 01:36:59,200
Speaker 2: talking about how much money they made. They should cut

2134
01:36:59,280 --> 01:37:01,720
Speaker 2: right to that luke every single time. All Right, I'm

2135
01:37:01,760 --> 01:37:03,960
Speaker 2: a week late on this, but everybody and their mother

2136
01:37:04,040 --> 01:37:07,640
Speaker 2: has sent me Anderson Silva's son Gabriel getting sent to

2137
01:37:07,680 --> 01:37:10,360
Speaker 2: the dark depths here in this kickbox about good.

2138
01:37:10,160 --> 01:37:12,439
Speaker 1: God gets torn up here. He just I don't know

2139
01:37:12,479 --> 01:37:14,360
Speaker 1: if he's hurt. He's hurt here, so whatever, you can't

2140
01:37:14,439 --> 01:37:17,880
Speaker 1: just I mean, they're sending referee. Referee kind of fucked

2141
01:37:17,960 --> 01:37:20,120
Speaker 1: him over too. He should have intervened a little bit earlier.

2142
01:37:20,479 --> 01:37:22,160
Speaker 2: I had one guy that sent me like three different

2143
01:37:22,160 --> 01:37:22,720
Speaker 2: angles of it.

2144
01:37:22,760 --> 01:37:24,240
Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, I'm right here, you

2145
01:37:24,280 --> 01:37:25,840
Speaker 1: gotta stop it, and he just.

2146
01:37:26,360 --> 01:37:32,639
Speaker 2: Oh, good lord, all right. Speaking of the aforementioned Hamza Shamaya, Luke, uh,

2147
01:37:32,680 --> 01:37:34,960
Speaker 2: there's talks that he could be in in in in

2148
01:37:35,040 --> 01:37:38,080
Speaker 2: line for a Gilbert Diaz Gilbert Burns fight. Excuse me,

2149
01:37:38,360 --> 01:37:41,280
Speaker 2: but how about this, Luke? He tweeted at Nate Diaz,

2150
01:37:41,640 --> 01:37:45,200
Speaker 2: I'm ready for you, holding up two firearms? Is he

2151
01:37:45,280 --> 01:37:47,479
Speaker 2: talking about fighting luc Or? Is he gonna kill him?

2152
01:37:47,479 --> 01:37:48,479
Speaker 2: I mean, what are we doing here?

2153
01:37:49,760 --> 01:37:52,840
Speaker 1: He's a different one. He's what's he watching on the TV?

2154
01:37:52,920 --> 01:37:58,840
Speaker 1: Can you blow that back up? I don't know what

2155
01:37:58,880 --> 01:37:59,120
Speaker 1: that is.

2156
01:37:59,200 --> 01:38:01,560
Speaker 2: That looks like one of your one of your intensely

2157
01:38:01,640 --> 01:38:05,280
Speaker 2: violent uh international uh, you know gun movies? Right?

2158
01:38:05,439 --> 01:38:08,760
Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean I doubt he's watching Sleepless in Seattle.

2159
01:38:08,439 --> 01:38:13,960
Speaker 2: You know, yeah? Yeah? I mean like k got male Yeah, uh, Luke,

2160
01:38:14,080 --> 01:38:16,800
Speaker 2: let's go to the key. No, sorry, let's stop one more.

2161
01:38:17,160 --> 01:38:19,080
Speaker 2: Ae W had a pay per view over the weekend.

2162
01:38:19,120 --> 01:38:23,040
Speaker 2: As I mentioned, this is Junior Dosantos landing a soup

2163
01:38:23,120 --> 01:38:27,599
Speaker 2: lex into get this Luke a standing moon salt holy

2164
01:38:27,640 --> 01:38:34,200
Speaker 2: shit right watch it. By the way, the gentleman in

2165
01:38:34,240 --> 01:38:36,760
Speaker 2: the sweatsuit Luke on the ring apron is none other

2166
01:38:36,800 --> 01:38:40,080
Speaker 2: than Dan Lambert of Att who took a I couldn't

2167
01:38:40,080 --> 01:38:42,320
Speaker 2: find video of it, but he took a stapler to

2168
01:38:42,400 --> 01:38:45,280
Speaker 2: the ball bag from Chris Jericho and then he also

2169
01:38:45,840 --> 01:38:47,599
Speaker 2: did the job to Jericho and took the pin into

2170
01:38:47,800 --> 01:38:48,760
Speaker 2: the Listen.

2171
01:38:48,880 --> 01:38:52,080
Speaker 1: If Junior is happy and he's making money, I'm not

2172
01:38:52,120 --> 01:38:55,400
Speaker 1: gonna hate on it, but I'm also definitely not gonna watch.

2173
01:38:55,520 --> 01:38:58,160
Speaker 2: Andre Orlowski was also and yeah, right, Luke. I did

2174
01:38:58,200 --> 01:39:00,679
Speaker 2: throw out that idea like, hey, if Showtime could pay

2175
01:39:00,720 --> 01:39:02,719
Speaker 2: the money for us to get front Roy w tickets,

2176
01:39:02,720 --> 01:39:04,280
Speaker 2: we should go. But I'm not gonna lie like I

2177
01:39:04,320 --> 01:39:07,120
Speaker 2: love AW. I'm just not really watching the wrestling anymore.

2178
01:39:07,200 --> 01:39:08,920
Speaker 2: Maybe you and I should go to a jam band

2179
01:39:08,960 --> 01:39:10,040
Speaker 2: concert to make up for that.

2180
01:39:10,200 --> 01:39:12,800
Speaker 1: Listen. I will go, I will, and if you can

2181
01:39:12,840 --> 01:39:15,160
Speaker 1: find one quick enough, I'd even go first. But if

2182
01:39:15,200 --> 01:39:18,080
Speaker 1: we go, okay, you're going to fucking cannibal Corpse in

2183
01:39:18,080 --> 01:39:19,400
Speaker 1: February and that's the end of it.

2184
01:39:19,520 --> 01:39:22,120
Speaker 2: Or maybe like a badass jazz contract. If Sons of

2185
01:39:22,200 --> 01:39:23,280
Speaker 2: Chemick comes around next.

2186
01:39:23,120 --> 01:39:24,880
Speaker 1: S brand it's a contradiction in terms.

2187
01:39:25,400 --> 01:39:28,120
Speaker 2: Oh wow, okay, hey, I mentioned the King of Connecticut

2188
01:39:28,160 --> 01:39:30,040
Speaker 2: Glover to sher, let's go on a little run here

2189
01:39:30,080 --> 01:39:33,800
Speaker 2: of showing his celebration. This was him arriving in Danbury, Connecticut,

2190
01:39:33,800 --> 01:39:36,720
Speaker 2: on the plane ride back from winning the UFC Light

2191
01:39:36,760 --> 01:39:39,320
Speaker 2: Heavyweight title in Abu Dhabi. Look this just feels good

2192
01:39:39,360 --> 01:39:40,720
Speaker 2: to watch right now.

2193
01:39:40,760 --> 01:39:42,160
Speaker 1: Where are you in this crowd?

2194
01:39:43,400 --> 01:39:44,960
Speaker 2: I'm not there. I don't know. Is this an airport,

2195
01:39:44,960 --> 01:39:47,160
Speaker 2: a train station? I don't know, But shout out to Danbury.

2196
01:39:47,240 --> 01:39:49,160
Speaker 1: What is Danbury, Connecticut?

2197
01:39:49,200 --> 01:39:51,559
Speaker 2: Like we talked about this before, It's a city on

2198
01:39:51,600 --> 01:39:55,800
Speaker 2: the New York state line. There's people always say, look

2199
01:39:55,880 --> 01:39:59,200
Speaker 2: all the long care workers that provide for all the

2200
01:39:59,280 --> 01:40:01,639
Speaker 2: rich towns on the Connecticut coast, they all live in Danburry.

2201
01:40:01,640 --> 01:40:03,360
Speaker 2: But it's kind of like one of those cities where

2202
01:40:03,439 --> 01:40:05,240
Speaker 2: a lot of hard workers live there, and it's, uh,

2203
01:40:05,800 --> 01:40:07,439
Speaker 2: you know, it's a little edgy, a little leedgie. But

2204
01:40:07,479 --> 01:40:10,320
Speaker 2: my sister went to college there at Western Connecticut State University.

2205
01:40:11,240 --> 01:40:13,320
Speaker 2: It is what it is, Luke, big time Brazilian and

2206
01:40:13,360 --> 01:40:16,600
Speaker 2: Portuguese population, as is my hometown of Naugata, Connecticut. So

2207
01:40:16,600 --> 01:40:19,400
Speaker 2: I can get down with my folks there, Luke, Let's

2208
01:40:19,439 --> 01:40:21,280
Speaker 2: keep it going. They had a parade this weekend and

2209
01:40:21,320 --> 01:40:24,719
Speaker 2: Glover got the key to the city in Danbury only

2210
01:40:24,920 --> 01:40:28,639
Speaker 2: in pure, in pure factory town MMA style. They drove

2211
01:40:28,680 --> 01:40:31,559
Speaker 2: him around a damn tractor, Luke, what are we doing here? Right?

2212
01:40:31,920 --> 01:40:34,800
Speaker 1: They given him hay rides at the fucking pumpkin patch.

2213
01:40:34,880 --> 01:40:38,280
Speaker 1: What the fuck is that? Man? I do love God,

2214
01:40:38,640 --> 01:40:41,880
Speaker 1: God bless Glover. I'm happy for him, but he deserved

2215
01:40:41,880 --> 01:40:42,720
Speaker 1: a little bit better than that.

2216
01:40:42,960 --> 01:40:45,600
Speaker 2: Jesus right, that's an Ariel Hallwane tweet. We're putting on

2217
01:40:45,640 --> 01:40:47,640
Speaker 2: this show. Shout out to to our friend in the

2218
01:40:47,720 --> 01:40:50,800
Speaker 2: in the industry there. But there's his boxing coach right there, Luke,

2219
01:40:50,800 --> 01:40:53,200
Speaker 2: I forgot that guy's name, but uh yeah, there you go,

2220
01:40:53,320 --> 01:40:53,599
Speaker 2: all right.

2221
01:40:53,640 --> 01:40:55,240
Speaker 1: I mean they're gonna take him to the Haunted House

2222
01:40:55,280 --> 01:40:56,679
Speaker 1: after this? What the fuck are they doing?

2223
01:40:56,840 --> 01:40:58,920
Speaker 2: Yeah? This was I don't I don't understand the hook

2224
01:40:58,960 --> 01:41:01,160
Speaker 2: here right now? You know what, I don't get it.

2225
01:41:01,200 --> 01:41:01,800
Speaker 2: I don't get it.

2226
01:41:01,800 --> 01:41:04,920
Speaker 1: But you know, when Real Madrid wins the from La Liga,

2227
01:41:05,040 --> 01:41:06,800
Speaker 1: they get to get in the whole bus and at

2228
01:41:06,880 --> 01:41:08,160
Speaker 1: the top of it and then it's like, you know,

2229
01:41:08,320 --> 01:41:08,920
Speaker 1: a whole thing.

2230
01:41:09,000 --> 01:41:11,280
Speaker 2: But yeah, but look at the community. Embrace this. This

2231
01:41:11,280 --> 01:41:13,559
Speaker 2: this this pure man. I mean, nobody else is gonna

2232
01:41:13,560 --> 01:41:15,720
Speaker 2: show up in like a camouflage UFC had and like

2233
01:41:15,760 --> 01:41:19,639
Speaker 2: a bomber jacket that Johnny Dakota gave Zach Morrison that's

2234
01:41:19,640 --> 01:41:21,000
Speaker 2: saved by the Bell episode. You know what I mean?

2235
01:41:21,200 --> 01:41:24,839
Speaker 1: Well, good, good for him, and any award and praise

2236
01:41:24,920 --> 01:41:26,879
Speaker 1: he gets, he has deserved it tenfold.

2237
01:41:26,920 --> 01:41:29,559
Speaker 2: I'll say absolutely, Look let's go to the fun shit.

2238
01:41:29,680 --> 01:41:32,360
Speaker 2: Now this is from Canada. It was a soccer match.

2239
01:41:32,400 --> 01:41:34,080
Speaker 2: You know when those drunk guys run on the field.

2240
01:41:34,200 --> 01:41:35,599
Speaker 1: Oh I saw that one bop.

2241
01:41:38,640 --> 01:41:41,439
Speaker 2: That's a great open field tackle right there, shirtless dude.

2242
01:41:41,479 --> 01:41:43,439
Speaker 1: I gotta say a lot of times these security guards

2243
01:41:43,479 --> 01:41:46,760
Speaker 1: guys they try to like pull someone down, you know

2244
01:41:46,800 --> 01:41:48,080
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like they don't they don't try and

2245
01:41:48,120 --> 01:41:50,280
Speaker 1: tackle too too hard. I know that there's a lot

2246
01:41:50,320 --> 01:41:52,200
Speaker 1: of cases where they get tackled like vicious, but you know,

2247
01:41:52,240 --> 01:41:53,479
Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of ones. But it was not

2248
01:41:53,520 --> 01:41:56,240
Speaker 1: so bad. Dude. This security guard was like, bitch, you

2249
01:41:56,280 --> 01:41:59,120
Speaker 1: can sue us all you want. I'm fucking murdering you.

2250
01:41:59,400 --> 01:42:01,519
Speaker 2: I mean he actually hurt himself against the fence there.

2251
01:42:01,560 --> 01:42:03,519
Speaker 2: He didn't care. Luke, that's vicious, dude.

2252
01:42:03,520 --> 01:42:06,240
Speaker 1: This is like Sean Taylor tackling that kicker at the

2253
01:42:06,680 --> 01:42:08,040
Speaker 1: at the Pro Bowl. Remember that?

2254
01:42:08,320 --> 01:42:09,439
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah, we.

2255
01:42:09,439 --> 01:42:10,880
Speaker 1: Just fucking lit that guy on fire.

2256
01:42:11,200 --> 01:42:13,080
Speaker 2: Would he would he have been this aggressive if this

2257
01:42:13,120 --> 01:42:17,799
Speaker 2: guy was naked though, Sean Taylor. No, this guy.

2258
01:42:17,720 --> 01:42:22,000
Speaker 1: Right here, Oh yeah, I think he wanted that scalp. Dude.

2259
01:42:22,040 --> 01:42:24,400
Speaker 1: Look he he does the Goldberg spear, right, Is that

2260
01:42:24,439 --> 01:42:25,000
Speaker 1: what they called it?

2261
01:42:25,200 --> 01:42:28,160
Speaker 2: Yeah? That was naked. You get the scalp and the

2262
01:42:28,320 --> 01:42:29,840
Speaker 2: and the bag. Look, you get it all there.

2263
01:42:29,880 --> 01:42:32,160
Speaker 1: Okay, listen, you got to risk it for the biscuit.

2264
01:42:32,200 --> 01:42:32,800
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

2265
01:42:33,800 --> 01:42:35,920
Speaker 2: Hey, de Zonne had a second card from England on

2266
01:42:35,960 --> 01:42:38,759
Speaker 2: Saturday afternoon. It produced two big moments. How about thirty

2267
01:42:38,760 --> 01:42:42,760
Speaker 2: five year old Keiko Martinez, the former world champion. Get it?

2268
01:42:42,840 --> 01:42:47,160
Speaker 2: He rallied back against kid Galahad to claim another world title. Luke,

2269
01:42:47,200 --> 01:42:49,920
Speaker 2: look at this one punch finish to open round six.

2270
01:42:50,640 --> 01:42:55,600
Speaker 1: He just he just let him go. Amazing win. He

2271
01:42:55,680 --> 01:42:58,000
Speaker 1: goes down around the Spanish Spanish had a good weekend

2272
01:42:58,080 --> 01:42:59,920
Speaker 1: for yeah, for combat sports.

2273
01:42:59,760 --> 01:43:02,519
Speaker 2: Big win for Spain. He's he's managed and promoted by

2274
01:43:02,560 --> 01:43:04,320
Speaker 2: the great Surgeriyo Martinez as well. A big win for

2275
01:43:04,400 --> 01:43:06,920
Speaker 2: Keiko Martinez right there. But Luke, the big story was

2276
01:43:07,000 --> 01:43:10,720
Speaker 2: American Alicia Baumgartner went in against Terry Harper for the

2277
01:43:10,760 --> 01:43:13,240
Speaker 2: women's one hundred and thirty pound title and check out

2278
01:43:13,240 --> 01:43:16,479
Speaker 2: this finish, stops her on her feet. You got Mikayla

2279
01:43:16,560 --> 01:43:18,400
Speaker 2: Mayer calling her out for a fight. This was a

2280
01:43:18,400 --> 01:43:19,519
Speaker 2: big win for the U.

2281
01:43:19,800 --> 01:43:22,559
Speaker 1: This is this is gonna be on. This is gonna

2282
01:43:22,560 --> 01:43:23,960
Speaker 1: be on extra credit as well.

2283
01:43:24,240 --> 01:43:28,200
Speaker 2: Oh nice, It's a rare stoppage with somebody on their

2284
01:43:28,240 --> 01:43:30,200
Speaker 2: feet there. Terry Harper was out cold. Look at that.

2285
01:43:30,600 --> 01:43:32,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, but look she's Yeah, I mean it's

2286
01:43:32,439 --> 01:43:34,880
Speaker 1: a great it's a good stop and she eister that

2287
01:43:35,000 --> 01:43:37,439
Speaker 1: right hand completely, Ester Luke.

2288
01:43:37,320 --> 01:43:41,519
Speaker 2: Let's play your favorite game. Rate that tat. Here's a

2289
01:43:41,640 --> 01:43:45,400
Speaker 2: UK boxing fan who got a Jervonte Davis tattoo and

2290
01:43:45,479 --> 01:43:49,439
Speaker 2: also got one of noted British promoter Eddie Hearn. What

2291
01:43:49,479 --> 01:43:51,760
Speaker 2: do you think of this? Can we zoom in?

2292
01:43:54,120 --> 01:43:55,000
Speaker 1: That's a good tattoo.

2293
01:43:56,320 --> 01:43:58,200
Speaker 2: I mean, I wouldn't want Eddie hern on my leg

2294
01:43:58,320 --> 01:43:59,160
Speaker 2: like this, but yeah, I.

2295
01:43:59,160 --> 01:44:01,920
Speaker 1: Would not want it. That's a good tattoo. Well that's

2296
01:44:01,920 --> 01:44:03,040
Speaker 1: a very well done tattoo.

2297
01:44:03,840 --> 01:44:08,920
Speaker 2: New Bellator lightweight champion Patricky Pitbull Frede Luke, we didn't

2298
01:44:08,920 --> 01:44:10,200
Speaker 2: talk about this last week, but he has a new

2299
01:44:10,240 --> 01:44:12,400
Speaker 2: tattoo of himself on his right arm. Your thoughts.

2300
01:44:14,600 --> 01:44:17,120
Speaker 1: And he's dressed as a knight or like a showgun

2301
01:44:17,240 --> 01:44:17,679
Speaker 1: or something.

2302
01:44:17,960 --> 01:44:19,880
Speaker 2: Yes, pretty bad us, It's pretty bad us. You gotta

2303
01:44:19,920 --> 01:44:20,360
Speaker 2: say it.

2304
01:44:20,360 --> 01:44:22,719
Speaker 1: It's not my favorite CAAF.

2305
01:44:22,720 --> 01:44:25,800
Speaker 2: Can we zoom in one more time? And I look,

2306
01:44:25,840 --> 01:44:27,680
Speaker 2: I'm not one of getting a picture of myself on

2307
01:44:27,720 --> 01:44:30,000
Speaker 2: my body, but that's pretty badass, Luke. If you're a fighter,

2308
01:44:31,600 --> 01:44:32,679
Speaker 2: yee yeah.

2309
01:44:32,800 --> 01:44:34,240
Speaker 1: But like you see a lot of them, like who

2310
01:44:34,320 --> 01:44:36,479
Speaker 1: has it? Like Tiago Mahetza has like on his arm

2311
01:44:36,520 --> 01:44:39,240
Speaker 1: and in his shin, he's got like tattooed armor. I'm

2312
01:44:39,240 --> 01:44:41,040
Speaker 1: not one of these guys who's like, this is not

2313
01:44:41,120 --> 01:44:43,559
Speaker 1: quite that. I mean that's almost like a biomech tattoo

2314
01:44:44,000 --> 01:44:46,640
Speaker 1: sort of. I'm not this is not that. But you

2315
01:44:46,680 --> 01:44:52,200
Speaker 1: know these like super macho tattoos, I'm not super personally. Personally,

2316
01:44:52,280 --> 01:44:53,880
Speaker 1: I'm not super into them, Luke.

2317
01:44:53,960 --> 01:44:55,560
Speaker 2: Remember last week when we showed the picture of the

2318
01:44:55,640 --> 01:44:59,759
Speaker 2: dress worn by Oscar de la Hoya's new girlfriend.

2319
01:44:59,640 --> 01:45:01,920
Speaker 1: Yes, the one that barely had any fabric. Yes.

2320
01:45:02,040 --> 01:45:04,960
Speaker 2: Turns out her name is Holly Saunders. She's a former

2321
01:45:05,080 --> 01:45:08,800
Speaker 2: Golf Network host. Look at what she did to show

2322
01:45:08,840 --> 01:45:12,479
Speaker 2: her love for Ostcar. She got his nineteen ninety two

2323
01:45:12,560 --> 01:45:21,080
Speaker 2: gold medal winning stance on her back. You better hope,

2324
01:45:21,200 --> 01:45:23,519
Speaker 2: you better hope this is a permanent relationship, Luke, because

2325
01:45:23,520 --> 01:45:24,440
Speaker 2: that that's.

2326
01:45:24,120 --> 01:45:27,439
Speaker 1: A very that's a very well done tattoo. I will

2327
01:45:27,439 --> 01:45:30,240
Speaker 1: say that like, that's a really well done tattoo actually,

2328
01:45:31,520 --> 01:45:36,759
Speaker 1: but as a tattoo choice, that's a little different.

2329
01:45:38,120 --> 01:45:40,760
Speaker 2: She wrote a message on Instagram saying, like, for the

2330
01:45:40,800 --> 01:45:42,960
Speaker 2: guy that has everything, I wanted to give you a

2331
01:45:43,000 --> 01:45:45,080
Speaker 2: gift you know that no one's given you. And he

2332
01:45:45,200 --> 01:45:48,240
Speaker 2: responded on her ig saying I've never felt love in

2333
01:45:48,280 --> 01:45:50,839
Speaker 2: my life like this, So look I gotta wish Oscar.

2334
01:45:51,000 --> 01:45:55,439
Speaker 1: Well, right, yeah, that's a great tattoo, that's all. You're

2335
01:45:55,479 --> 01:45:58,559
Speaker 1: showing me some pretty decent tattoos, all know. I'm not

2336
01:45:58,560 --> 01:46:00,800
Speaker 1: a favorite of the Petricky one, but other ones are

2337
01:46:00,800 --> 01:46:01,240
Speaker 1: pretty good.

2338
01:46:01,439 --> 01:46:04,639
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't see the radiant and talented missus

2339
01:46:04,680 --> 01:46:06,880
Speaker 2: Thomas getting a tattoo of your mull. Go on, her back.

2340
01:46:07,600 --> 01:46:09,360
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, probably by choice.

2341
01:46:09,720 --> 01:46:12,040
Speaker 2: Okay, just in case, just in case.

2342
01:46:12,360 --> 01:46:14,040
Speaker 1: All right, let's keep it by bus tomorrow.

2343
01:46:14,080 --> 01:46:16,680
Speaker 2: You know, here are your shirts of the week from

2344
01:46:16,760 --> 01:46:18,519
Speaker 2: this couple visiting Disney World. Luke.

2345
01:46:22,320 --> 01:46:24,240
Speaker 1: So, I didn't know this was a thing until I

2346
01:46:24,280 --> 01:46:28,320
Speaker 1: went to Disney World, where families or couples or whatever groups,

2347
01:46:28,840 --> 01:46:32,840
Speaker 1: Oh it's wear shirts commemorating them going to Disney at

2348
01:46:32,880 --> 01:46:34,160
Speaker 1: the Disney event they're going to.

2349
01:46:34,400 --> 01:46:37,240
Speaker 2: It's a major thing. Even my wife's not even this

2350
01:46:37,520 --> 01:46:40,000
Speaker 2: type of person. My wife got all of us shirts

2351
01:46:40,000 --> 01:46:40,760
Speaker 2: the last time we went.

2352
01:46:41,200 --> 01:46:42,320
Speaker 1: Oh she did you did that?

2353
01:46:42,800 --> 01:46:45,240
Speaker 2: She had once said, you know, mom, dad once said

2354
01:46:45,240 --> 01:46:47,280
Speaker 2: the kid's name written in the Disney letters. Yeah. I

2355
01:46:47,280 --> 01:46:49,040
Speaker 2: mean she's not even that type, and she did it.

2356
01:46:49,080 --> 01:46:51,519
Speaker 1: So this is I mean, this is up there with

2357
01:46:51,640 --> 01:46:56,599
Speaker 1: the Yodong jokes, which were funny, the first eighty old

2358
01:46:57,640 --> 01:47:00,559
Speaker 1: Old and first of all, suck my balls number one,

2359
01:47:00,720 --> 01:47:03,720
Speaker 1: number two. I'm not telling you they're not funny. What

2360
01:47:03,760 --> 01:47:06,680
Speaker 1: I'm telling you is they were funny the first ninety

2361
01:47:06,760 --> 01:47:10,479
Speaker 1: billion times you did them. I guess my question is,

2362
01:47:10,479 --> 01:47:12,519
Speaker 1: are we gonna just do this until he dies? Like

2363
01:47:12,600 --> 01:47:15,040
Speaker 1: on his obituary we're gonna write your dong?

2364
01:47:15,240 --> 01:47:15,599
Speaker 2: Lol?

2365
01:47:15,680 --> 01:47:16,720
Speaker 1: Is that what's gonna happen here?

2366
01:47:16,800 --> 01:47:19,320
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I'm not doing it to take shots

2367
01:47:19,360 --> 01:47:23,400
Speaker 2: at your dong. And some somehow this spurred a retread

2368
01:47:23,439 --> 01:47:26,879
Speaker 2: of oh Luke's co host is the racist guy against Asians?

2369
01:47:26,960 --> 01:47:29,439
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no no no, it's not that.

2370
01:47:29,479 --> 01:47:31,080
Speaker 1: It's got nothing to do with that. The guy's name

2371
01:47:31,240 --> 01:47:35,839
Speaker 1: sounds funny, I get it, only does it every time?

2372
01:47:36,400 --> 01:47:39,320
Speaker 2: Well, Jeremy Oakman slid into my ig DMS and was like,

2373
01:47:39,360 --> 01:47:41,559
Speaker 2: did you see the way ins your dog looks small?

2374
01:47:41,600 --> 01:47:43,840
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, you got me there, you

2375
01:47:43,880 --> 01:47:45,840
Speaker 2: got me here, you got me there? All right?

2376
01:47:45,920 --> 01:47:48,080
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I get it. They were funny,

2377
01:47:48,240 --> 01:47:50,800
Speaker 1: but times, knowing.

2378
01:47:50,520 --> 01:47:53,679
Speaker 2: Your stance as a historic curmudgeon, you came out very

2379
01:47:53,920 --> 01:47:55,960
Speaker 2: get off my lawn ish with that tweet. Should probably

2380
01:47:55,960 --> 01:47:56,320
Speaker 2: delete the.

2381
01:47:56,320 --> 01:47:58,840
Speaker 1: Course of course, you guys can get the fuck off

2382
01:47:58,920 --> 01:48:01,280
Speaker 1: my lawn. And I'm right about it. You listen, here's

2383
01:48:01,320 --> 01:48:03,120
Speaker 1: what I've learned. I'm just ahead of the curve on

2384
01:48:03,120 --> 01:48:04,720
Speaker 1: some of the shit. You guys will come around to

2385
01:48:04,760 --> 01:48:05,799
Speaker 1: this position eventually.

2386
01:48:05,920 --> 01:48:08,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll come around when we're an old bastard sitting

2387
01:48:08,040 --> 01:48:10,400
Speaker 2: out a porch with a shotgun. Talking about how these

2388
01:48:10,479 --> 01:48:13,679
Speaker 2: kids these days. Yeah, can't wait do The only thing.

2389
01:48:13,479 --> 01:48:15,320
Speaker 1: That would happened with a shotgun is you would get

2390
01:48:15,360 --> 01:48:17,519
Speaker 1: a black eye as it recoils into your face from

2391
01:48:17,600 --> 01:48:18,920
Speaker 1: you handling it improperly.

2392
01:48:19,680 --> 01:48:22,519
Speaker 2: Anyway, let's go to BKFC from Miami. No, I'm not

2393
01:48:22,560 --> 01:48:26,280
Speaker 2: going to show you britt Bell trans victory over Pearl Gonzalez.

2394
01:48:26,360 --> 01:48:30,040
Speaker 2: But look the press conference between Hector Lombard and Lorenzo

2395
01:48:30,120 --> 01:48:33,519
Speaker 2: Hunt got crazy again. Remember, Lombard gave him a two piece.

2396
01:48:35,080 --> 01:48:37,400
Speaker 2: Lombard had given him a two piece after his last win,

2397
01:48:37,439 --> 01:48:40,000
Speaker 2: which really set this fight up. Hunt would go on

2398
01:48:40,040 --> 01:48:42,519
Speaker 2: to win a decision. But I love that move taking

2399
01:48:42,560 --> 01:48:44,240
Speaker 2: the belt and just slamming it to the ground.

2400
01:48:44,320 --> 01:48:48,479
Speaker 1: Luke, didn't Hector lose this weekend?

2401
01:48:48,640 --> 01:48:51,000
Speaker 2: Yes, as I just said, Hunt won a decision.

2402
01:48:52,320 --> 01:48:54,719
Speaker 1: Okay, so this is I'm just trying. I'm confused.

2403
01:48:54,800 --> 01:48:57,840
Speaker 2: This is pre this is like last Wednesday.

2404
01:48:58,240 --> 01:49:02,360
Speaker 1: Oh oh yeah, dude, they get busy over it BFC. Bro.

2405
01:49:02,479 --> 01:49:06,920
Speaker 1: That's where that's where the crazy shit has. That's that's

2406
01:49:06,960 --> 01:49:11,960
Speaker 1: the edge. That's the strained edge of sanctioned combat sports.

2407
01:49:11,960 --> 01:49:12,519
Speaker 1: That's what it looks like.

2408
01:49:12,640 --> 01:49:13,680
Speaker 2: Oh you'll see an else.

2409
01:49:13,920 --> 01:49:15,040
Speaker 1: You just can't sanction.

2410
01:49:15,160 --> 01:49:18,360
Speaker 2: BKFC offering all kinds of weird shit, including at Friday's Way.

2411
01:49:18,360 --> 01:49:22,400
Speaker 2: And here's Dustin Peg wearing the borat.

2412
01:49:21,880 --> 01:49:23,720
Speaker 1: From He's from d C. He's from DC.

2413
01:49:23,920 --> 01:49:27,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, what are what really? Luke? What are we?

2414
01:49:27,200 --> 01:49:29,719
Speaker 2: Don't you have to? Don't you? I mean this wasn't

2415
01:49:29,720 --> 01:49:33,320
Speaker 2: a scheduled maandscape ad read Luke. But this guy, this

2416
01:49:33,360 --> 01:49:34,600
Speaker 2: guy could use the lawnmower.

2417
01:49:34,640 --> 01:49:39,720
Speaker 1: Correct. I thought he was super Christian. I don't know

2418
01:49:39,840 --> 01:49:45,519
Speaker 1: what this is about. Yeah, men are disgusting. What can

2419
01:49:45,560 --> 01:49:47,679
Speaker 1: I tell you? We are just horrendous creatures.

2420
01:49:47,840 --> 01:49:49,720
Speaker 2: If you're going to go to this level for this bit,

2421
01:49:49,840 --> 01:49:53,639
Speaker 2: you probably should clean that up a little, Okay, okay,

2422
01:49:53,680 --> 01:49:54,080
Speaker 2: all right?

2423
01:49:55,479 --> 01:49:58,320
Speaker 1: Lawnmower four point zero BC, that's what he needs.

2424
01:49:58,560 --> 01:50:01,519
Speaker 2: Also in Greater Miami this weekend, of course, was Beltour

2425
01:50:01,560 --> 01:50:03,599
Speaker 2: two seventy one on Friday. And you know who's getting

2426
01:50:03,600 --> 01:50:07,519
Speaker 2: a lot of lot of you know, disputed polarizing takes

2427
01:50:07,560 --> 01:50:10,759
Speaker 2: on Twitter. Valerie Larreeda, who bounced back from her first

2428
01:50:10,960 --> 01:50:15,439
Speaker 2: loss to Hannah Guy by taking a split decision from

2429
01:50:15,880 --> 01:50:21,280
Speaker 2: five and nine thirty eight year old soccer mom Taylor Turner. So, Luke,

2430
01:50:23,240 --> 01:50:27,200
Speaker 2: and this is so not only did Lareda refuse the

2431
01:50:27,240 --> 01:50:30,400
Speaker 2: postfight hog watch this postfight hug get away from me.

2432
01:50:31,880 --> 01:50:35,240
Speaker 2: I'm not saying she can't do these dances, Luke. I'm

2433
01:50:35,280 --> 01:50:39,240
Speaker 2: saying you struggled to beat somebody who's five and nine.

2434
01:50:39,920 --> 01:50:43,200
Speaker 2: It was a split decision, and you're gonna, you know,

2435
01:50:43,320 --> 01:50:45,920
Speaker 2: dance on the grave and celebrate like like we're like,

2436
01:50:45,960 --> 01:50:49,800
Speaker 2: we're like it's raining right now. Luke. I'm sorry. It's

2437
01:50:49,800 --> 01:50:51,960
Speaker 2: not a good look if this, if this is your

2438
01:50:51,960 --> 01:50:55,160
Speaker 2: gimmick and your winning fights and you're making improvements, I

2439
01:50:55,200 --> 01:50:58,120
Speaker 2: felt her performance here was you know, like a like

2440
01:50:58,160 --> 01:51:01,400
Speaker 2: a lateral step back. And I know she went afterwards,

2441
01:51:01,400 --> 01:51:03,599
Speaker 2: she was crying after she won and saying the media

2442
01:51:03,640 --> 01:51:05,800
Speaker 2: is always you know whatever. But yeah, what did.

2443
01:51:05,720 --> 01:51:07,280
Speaker 1: You What did you make of her saying that the

2444
01:51:07,360 --> 01:51:10,920
Speaker 1: media was unfair. I'm like, I don't think they're unfair. Granted,

2445
01:51:10,960 --> 01:51:13,040
Speaker 1: of course I have my own perspective, she has hers,

2446
01:51:13,080 --> 01:51:16,360
Speaker 1: but I don't think they're unfair at all. In fact,

2447
01:51:16,400 --> 01:51:18,120
Speaker 1: I think they've been generous, if anything.

2448
01:51:18,360 --> 01:51:20,759
Speaker 2: Well, to her point, she said the media is unfair,

2449
01:51:20,840 --> 01:51:23,240
Speaker 2: but I brought this on and you know she's trying,

2450
01:51:23,280 --> 01:51:26,640
Speaker 2: but I just look, I'm not saying like that. It

2451
01:51:26,720 --> 01:51:28,519
Speaker 2: wasn't a lot for her to come back from her

2452
01:51:28,520 --> 01:51:31,519
Speaker 2: first defeat and still believe in herself, but to do

2453
01:51:31,600 --> 01:51:34,599
Speaker 2: this dance and then to have tears like Luke, they

2454
01:51:34,640 --> 01:51:38,640
Speaker 2: gave her a soft opponent and she struggled to I

2455
01:51:38,680 --> 01:51:40,760
Speaker 2: mean she it was a split decision. She struggled to

2456
01:51:40,800 --> 01:51:43,320
Speaker 2: show dominance over that soft opponent. I mean, look, no

2457
01:51:43,400 --> 01:51:45,360
Speaker 2: disrespect to Taylor Turner, She's been in there before. She'd

2458
01:51:45,360 --> 01:51:47,960
Speaker 2: be Haather Hearty. She lost Ollie Handra Laura. But Luke,

2459
01:51:48,800 --> 01:51:53,120
Speaker 2: I mean, dude, that striking was was laughable. So I'm

2460
01:51:53,160 --> 01:51:56,479
Speaker 2: just saying, yeah, I'm just saying, maybe save that stuff

2461
01:51:56,520 --> 01:51:59,200
Speaker 2: for the big moments. But it is what it is.

2462
01:51:59,240 --> 01:52:01,320
Speaker 2: You know, who had a big moment welterweight.

2463
01:52:01,479 --> 01:52:08,920
Speaker 1: I'm never gonna tell you know, dance, ladies, dance if

2464
01:52:08,960 --> 01:52:10,840
Speaker 1: you want to. It's my view, all right.

2465
01:52:10,880 --> 01:52:12,439
Speaker 2: So you'll be the old guy that says no more

2466
01:52:12,479 --> 01:52:13,680
Speaker 2: dong jokes, but you won't be there.

2467
01:52:14,000 --> 01:52:15,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I understand, I mean, I'm doing a bit

2468
01:52:15,800 --> 01:52:18,800
Speaker 1: like I understand your point about like, if you're gonna

2469
01:52:18,840 --> 01:52:20,920
Speaker 1: celebrate like that, it needs to be you know, commensurate

2470
01:52:21,000 --> 01:52:22,920
Speaker 1: with a performance that merits that kind of a thing.

2471
01:52:23,160 --> 01:52:25,360
Speaker 1: I think for her, I don't want to speak for her,

2472
01:52:25,400 --> 01:52:27,400
Speaker 1: but it seems like her responsible. Well, she got the

2473
01:52:27,640 --> 01:52:29,160
Speaker 1: she got back in the winning side of things, which

2474
01:52:29,200 --> 01:52:30,600
Speaker 1: I think she was mostly happy about. I think she

2475
01:52:30,640 --> 01:52:33,240
Speaker 1: took this fight on short notice, relatively like six weeks,

2476
01:52:33,280 --> 01:52:36,720
Speaker 1: so not like perfect. But yeah, dude, at some point

2477
01:52:36,800 --> 01:52:38,200
Speaker 1: she's got to figure out what she's doing here are

2478
01:52:38,200 --> 01:52:42,479
Speaker 1: we doing the whole like you know, which is totally

2479
01:52:42,520 --> 01:52:45,400
Speaker 1: within her right like sex appeal, like online figure or

2480
01:52:45,400 --> 01:52:47,880
Speaker 1: a fighter. You it's hard to do both kind of

2481
01:52:47,920 --> 01:52:48,880
Speaker 1: have to make a choice about.

2482
01:52:48,960 --> 01:52:51,000
Speaker 2: Based on the pictures you texted me, I would say

2483
01:52:51,040 --> 01:52:54,280
Speaker 2: the former Luke could be could be all right. You

2484
01:52:54,280 --> 01:52:58,679
Speaker 2: know who won this night though, welterweight Roman Feraldo six

2485
01:52:58,760 --> 01:53:03,640
Speaker 2: and zero with six knockouts. This taunting in the finish

2486
01:53:03,760 --> 01:53:08,479
Speaker 2: all shades of Luke, shades of future champion Kevin Lee

2487
01:53:08,520 --> 01:53:10,800
Speaker 2: against Gregor Gillespie with the way the head hit the

2488
01:53:10,800 --> 01:53:13,680
Speaker 2: cage there but so to watch this. He talked to

2489
01:53:13,760 --> 01:53:15,400
Speaker 2: them after he rocked him with the left hand.

2490
01:53:16,640 --> 01:53:19,559
Speaker 1: He also fainted like he was gonna spin he doesn't

2491
01:53:19,680 --> 01:53:21,920
Speaker 1: lands the left hook, and then just called his shot.

2492
01:53:22,479 --> 01:53:24,160
Speaker 1: Bock got the guy to duck right into it.

2493
01:53:24,600 --> 01:53:26,759
Speaker 2: What do you think about him calling out highly ranked

2494
01:53:26,800 --> 01:53:29,200
Speaker 2: Jason Jackson after this, even though he's only six to

2495
01:53:29,240 --> 01:53:30,640
Speaker 2: oh with six knockouts.

2496
01:53:31,000 --> 01:53:33,800
Speaker 1: Love it, love it, Let's see it. This guy looks good.

2497
01:53:34,160 --> 01:53:36,320
Speaker 1: I had never heard of him. Candidly, I'll pretend. I

2498
01:53:36,360 --> 01:53:38,639
Speaker 1: won't pretend like I did. He looked good. And also

2499
01:53:38,960 --> 01:53:43,000
Speaker 1: Cody Law remains undefeated on the premium card. He looked

2500
01:53:43,000 --> 01:53:43,479
Speaker 1: good as well.

2501
01:53:43,720 --> 01:53:46,519
Speaker 2: I think I think Roman Fraldo is an att guy

2502
01:53:46,560 --> 01:53:49,880
Speaker 2: as well. The only problem is, look, he beat Robert Turnquest,

2503
01:53:50,280 --> 01:53:54,200
Speaker 2: who missed weight by seven point eight pounds for this fight.

2504
01:53:56,479 --> 01:53:58,360
Speaker 1: It could have been was he last minute? I don't

2505
01:53:58,360 --> 01:54:00,680
Speaker 1: know what the issue was. Yeah, he wasn't beating a

2506
01:54:00,720 --> 01:54:04,599
Speaker 1: high quality opponent. But you know what, are you all right?

2507
01:54:04,720 --> 01:54:07,360
Speaker 2: Luke? Great sound called in weird context. Here we go.

2508
01:54:07,400 --> 01:54:09,040
Speaker 2: You're a favorite talking about Frankie.

2509
01:54:08,840 --> 01:54:15,480
Speaker 3: Edgarously as it as a younger Frankie, he wasn't as

2510
01:54:15,520 --> 01:54:18,639
Speaker 3: susceptible to being knocked out. That's something that happens with age.

2511
01:54:18,640 --> 01:54:20,880
Speaker 3: I don't care how tight something is that you pound

2512
01:54:20,920 --> 01:54:22,280
Speaker 3: on it. Over the years, it's going to loosen a

2513
01:54:22,280 --> 01:54:24,360
Speaker 3: bit soously as it.

2514
01:54:30,200 --> 01:54:36,560
Speaker 2: Luke in your travels. Can you confirm that that's true?

2515
01:54:37,240 --> 01:54:40,600
Speaker 1: You know, I'd also say the human anatomy is quite resilient,

2516
01:54:40,640 --> 01:54:43,400
Speaker 1: but when it comes to that relent.

2517
01:54:43,800 --> 01:54:46,280
Speaker 2: Yeah all right, uh shout out to the schmo. Look

2518
01:54:46,280 --> 01:54:48,120
Speaker 2: at you like that haircut, little old school like Brian

2519
01:54:48,160 --> 01:54:49,360
Speaker 2: Bosworth type shit going on.

2520
01:54:49,920 --> 01:54:51,360
Speaker 1: I didn't notice it. What is he? What did he

2521
01:54:51,440 --> 01:54:56,000
Speaker 1: do with the with the with the with the It's

2522
01:54:56,040 --> 01:54:57,440
Speaker 1: a little vanilla ice, right.

2523
01:54:57,520 --> 01:54:59,160
Speaker 2: It is a little vanilla ice. So that well, I

2524
01:54:59,160 --> 01:55:00,880
Speaker 2: mean that's on brand for our guy, the Schmoe. Right,

2525
01:55:00,880 --> 01:55:02,960
Speaker 2: he goes, he goes after it, Luke, he goes after it.

2526
01:55:03,040 --> 01:55:05,920
Speaker 1: Oh, he doesn't listen. He's his own man. Let him be.

2527
01:55:06,000 --> 01:55:07,840
Speaker 1: Let him do his thing, cook, play or cook.

2528
01:55:08,480 --> 01:55:10,400
Speaker 2: All right, Luke, you're really here to see drunk chicks

2529
01:55:10,400 --> 01:55:11,440
Speaker 2: do ridiculous things, right.

2530
01:55:11,440 --> 01:55:13,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, where the fuck is that being? Jesus,

2531
01:55:13,080 --> 01:55:14,640
Speaker 1: where's that guy?

2532
01:55:15,080 --> 01:55:17,440
Speaker 2: Hey? This fine lady getting the boot right here? Check

2533
01:55:17,480 --> 01:55:25,600
Speaker 2: this out, Luke, What the fuck? Oh right, okay, okay,

2534
01:55:25,640 --> 01:55:28,160
Speaker 2: that explains it. Yeah she ain't no Ronnie Deutsch, I'll

2535
01:55:28,160 --> 01:55:31,720
Speaker 2: tell you that much, Luke. Wow, that is you know what.

2536
01:55:31,920 --> 01:55:34,560
Speaker 1: That's actually a pretty stupid but also kind of funny bit.

2537
01:55:34,680 --> 01:55:35,680
Speaker 1: I actually kind of like that.

2538
01:55:36,000 --> 01:55:37,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, by the way, I meant to tell you this.

2539
01:55:37,640 --> 01:55:39,560
Speaker 1: So I went to when I was in Brussels, I

2540
01:55:39,600 --> 01:55:43,840
Speaker 1: went to the actual and original Delirium Tremens cafe. You

2541
01:55:43,880 --> 01:55:44,800
Speaker 1: had this beer before.

2542
01:55:44,680 --> 01:55:46,080
Speaker 2: Right, delim Oh it's incredible.

2543
01:55:46,120 --> 01:55:48,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's amazing. So I went to the actual cafe

2544
01:55:49,320 --> 01:55:52,000
Speaker 1: with the pink elephants and everything, and they have a

2545
01:55:52,120 --> 01:55:54,720
Speaker 1: boot behind the counter. You cannot buy it, but you

2546
01:55:54,720 --> 01:55:58,160
Speaker 1: can rent it for free. But here's the bit. They'll

2547
01:55:58,160 --> 01:55:59,800
Speaker 1: fill it up with whatever you want. You pay for

2548
01:55:59,800 --> 01:56:01,840
Speaker 1: how how much that costs. You have to give them

2549
01:56:01,880 --> 01:56:04,280
Speaker 1: fifty euros and you can have the boot. When you

2550
01:56:04,280 --> 01:56:07,120
Speaker 1: give the boot back, they'll give you your fifty euros back.

2551
01:56:07,120 --> 01:56:08,840
Speaker 1: But it's sort of like collateral in case something happens

2552
01:56:08,880 --> 01:56:11,640
Speaker 1: to it. It's a giant glass boot that they will

2553
01:56:11,680 --> 01:56:13,680
Speaker 1: fill with the booze. So I did that in Brussels.

2554
01:56:13,720 --> 01:56:16,360
Speaker 1: I had two of them shits, and I was fucking

2555
01:56:16,480 --> 01:56:17,080
Speaker 1: hammered at that.

2556
01:56:17,280 --> 01:56:20,040
Speaker 2: So Luke, as you may remember from me when our

2557
01:56:20,040 --> 01:56:23,440
Speaker 2: Great Beer Challenge and all that, I strongly dislike Belgium

2558
01:56:23,440 --> 01:56:25,800
Speaker 2: style beers. It's like just putting a stick of butter

2559
01:56:25,840 --> 01:56:28,520
Speaker 2: in the Budweiser. But this is the only beer and

2560
01:56:28,680 --> 01:56:30,760
Speaker 2: one of the only beers in that category, and I

2561
01:56:30,800 --> 01:56:32,760
Speaker 2: get people will go, oh, that's the real beer. Okay,

2562
01:56:32,760 --> 01:56:35,200
Speaker 2: that's cool, that's cool. But this when I tried this,

2563
01:56:35,240 --> 01:56:38,360
Speaker 2: when I bought this one time, I remember specifically, Luke,

2564
01:56:38,440 --> 01:56:40,520
Speaker 2: I bought the sixteen ounce bottle that's like what like

2565
01:56:40,560 --> 01:56:42,880
Speaker 2: thirteen dollars or whatever. I drank the whole thing in

2566
01:56:42,880 --> 01:56:46,880
Speaker 2: one sitting. I stood up. I was like, my high,

2567
01:56:46,920 --> 01:56:49,120
Speaker 2: this is a different buzz right now, like it was.

2568
01:56:49,280 --> 01:56:51,040
Speaker 2: It was some strong shit in there, Luke, what do

2569
01:56:51,080 --> 01:56:51,400
Speaker 2: they put it in?

2570
01:56:51,520 --> 01:56:53,600
Speaker 1: Yah, it's it's high alcohol content. I'm not sure what

2571
01:56:53,640 --> 01:56:56,160
Speaker 1: the ABV is, but all those Belgian beers typically are

2572
01:56:57,000 --> 01:56:57,960
Speaker 1: they got high ABV.

2573
01:56:58,440 --> 01:57:01,800
Speaker 2: All right, Luke, we call this category only in South Florida.

2574
01:57:01,880 --> 01:57:04,160
Speaker 2: I'm sure you can assume what's happening next, But check

2575
01:57:04,200 --> 01:57:07,880
Speaker 2: out this busy intersection. This can't be This can't be safe, Luke.

2576
01:57:07,920 --> 01:57:09,880
Speaker 2: Can we zume in here?

2577
01:57:09,920 --> 01:57:11,280
Speaker 1: Propane tanks fell off?

2578
01:57:12,640 --> 01:57:15,959
Speaker 2: Nothing like spilling ten protein panks in a crowded intersection

2579
01:57:16,000 --> 01:57:16,480
Speaker 2: in Miami.

2580
01:57:16,520 --> 01:57:20,600
Speaker 1: That's great, Jesus, I mean, what the fuck, guy? But

2581
01:57:20,880 --> 01:57:23,480
Speaker 1: there's not light like you can't rush if they're full,

2582
01:57:24,120 --> 01:57:25,840
Speaker 1: you know, it takes a second to go get them all,

2583
01:57:25,880 --> 01:57:26,200
Speaker 1: you know.

2584
01:57:26,560 --> 01:57:28,840
Speaker 2: I mean, nothing like hitting a car into a propane tank.

2585
01:57:28,880 --> 01:57:29,920
Speaker 2: That'll end. Bro.

2586
01:57:29,960 --> 01:57:31,800
Speaker 1: This is how they should do, strong Man. Just do

2587
01:57:31,960 --> 01:57:34,080
Speaker 1: all the events in the middle of Florida traffic.

2588
01:57:34,320 --> 01:57:37,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, nobody would notice. Well, speaking of South Florida, let's

2589
01:57:37,160 --> 01:57:40,040
Speaker 2: go to the beach for this selfie, Luke, I don't

2590
01:57:40,040 --> 01:57:44,080
Speaker 2: really know how to analyze this. Wait for it, wait

2591
01:57:44,120 --> 01:57:47,320
Speaker 2: for it, zoom in, wait for it.

2592
01:57:47,920 --> 01:57:51,880
Speaker 1: I see an ass. Oh what are we doing?

2593
01:57:53,560 --> 01:57:58,600
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, okay, they did it all for the gram

2594
01:57:58,720 --> 01:58:00,720
Speaker 2: and the nookie. It turns out.

2595
01:58:00,320 --> 01:58:03,400
Speaker 1: I've done this when I've had a remarkably itchy rear end.

2596
01:58:03,680 --> 01:58:05,080
Speaker 1: So who am I to judge?

2597
01:58:06,120 --> 01:58:06,560
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2598
01:58:06,640 --> 01:58:09,160
Speaker 1: Can you imagine raising this person and then you find

2599
01:58:09,240 --> 01:58:12,160
Speaker 1: out later in life what they've been doing, and you're like, dude,

2600
01:58:12,200 --> 01:58:15,920
Speaker 1: let me explain something to you. This person's father failed failed.

2601
01:58:16,280 --> 01:58:18,959
Speaker 2: This person's father gives it RB's tickets at Halloween.

2602
01:58:19,000 --> 01:58:21,800
Speaker 1: There's no yeah, this this person get this person's father

2603
01:58:21,920 --> 01:58:25,440
Speaker 1: hands out Roy Rogers coupons at Halloween. You understand that, all.

2604
01:58:25,360 --> 01:58:28,920
Speaker 2: Right, Luke. Hey, Connor McGregor's social media game is a

2605
01:58:28,920 --> 01:58:31,360
Speaker 2: shit show these days, but he shouted you out this

2606
01:58:31,400 --> 01:58:32,840
Speaker 2: past week. I don't know if you saw this. Can

2607
01:58:32,840 --> 01:58:35,600
Speaker 2: we blow this tweet up? Can you read it? Luke?

2608
01:58:37,440 --> 01:58:42,800
Speaker 1: India invented chess, invented yoga. I shouldn't do it. They

2609
01:58:42,840 --> 01:58:46,800
Speaker 1: even thought, they even thought us how to count. Einstein said,

2610
01:58:46,800 --> 01:58:49,240
Speaker 1: we owe a lot to the Indians. There is even

2611
01:58:49,280 --> 01:58:51,800
Speaker 1: a golden temple in India that feeds one hundred thousand

2612
01:58:51,800 --> 01:58:55,680
Speaker 1: people a day for free. Man, the Indians are fucking awesome.

2613
01:58:56,160 --> 01:58:58,440
Speaker 1: If you are Indian, I say thank.

2614
01:58:58,240 --> 01:59:02,680
Speaker 2: You, Luke, forget about Veteran's Day today. Like Connor, I

2615
01:59:02,720 --> 01:59:05,040
Speaker 2: say thank you because your people, you and your people

2616
01:59:05,080 --> 01:59:05,920
Speaker 2: are fucking awesome.

2617
01:59:08,120 --> 01:59:09,960
Speaker 1: You're an idiot, but I appreciate that.

2618
01:59:10,240 --> 01:59:13,400
Speaker 2: Thank you, Luke. Do not turn your back. It's like here,

2619
01:59:13,600 --> 01:59:16,320
Speaker 2: here's what this is equivalent to, Luke. I could suddenly

2620
01:59:16,360 --> 01:59:19,400
Speaker 2: announce that my house is sovereign territory, and I could

2621
01:59:19,400 --> 01:59:21,520
Speaker 2: my wife could give birth, and I could say, this

2622
01:59:21,640 --> 01:59:25,120
Speaker 2: is uh Lithuanian. This is Lithuania right here. Adjacent, this

2623
01:59:25,240 --> 01:59:28,520
Speaker 2: is sovereign territory. Mine kids are not Americans. I could

2624
01:59:28,520 --> 01:59:30,120
Speaker 2: do something like that, Luke, but it would have the

2625
01:59:30,160 --> 01:59:34,440
Speaker 2: same you know, meaning as you declaring you're not an

2626
01:59:34,440 --> 01:59:36,280
Speaker 2: Indian citizen. B Se.

2627
01:59:36,480 --> 01:59:40,640
Speaker 1: You just recited to me the synopsis of a Family

2628
01:59:40,680 --> 01:59:43,640
Speaker 1: Guy episode to make your argument. So I'm just gonna

2629
01:59:43,680 --> 01:59:46,720
Speaker 1: let that live an infamy. How about that?

2630
01:59:47,640 --> 01:59:50,240
Speaker 2: Okay, let's keep this weird show going. Let's go to

2631
01:59:50,280 --> 01:59:53,280
Speaker 2: regional Mma Luke, where anything can happen. How about Penn

2632
01:59:53,280 --> 01:59:56,440
Speaker 2: State stud Bo Nickel of att Luke. Here's his second

2633
01:59:56,520 --> 01:59:59,560
Speaker 2: amateur fight, and once again he gets a finish. Let's

2634
01:59:59,600 --> 02:00:01,280
Speaker 2: let's call I'm up to the big league's already.

2635
02:00:01,440 --> 02:00:04,800
Speaker 1: He's a dynamic wrestler, three time national champion, and I

2636
02:00:04,840 --> 02:00:08,400
Speaker 1: watched two of those championships live. They were not very close.

2637
02:00:08,480 --> 02:00:11,080
Speaker 1: He is about as blue chip as they come. But

2638
02:00:11,080 --> 02:00:14,720
Speaker 1: but as you indicated, just two fights, he has a

2639
02:00:14,760 --> 02:00:15,560
Speaker 1: long way to go.

2640
02:00:15,920 --> 02:00:17,520
Speaker 2: I put him on here because my neighbor loves the guy.

2641
02:00:17,560 --> 02:00:19,200
Speaker 2: He talks about him all the time. All right, let's

2642
02:00:19,280 --> 02:00:23,000
Speaker 2: keep it going. Here s F F N six, whatever

2643
02:00:23,040 --> 02:00:26,600
Speaker 2: the hell that means? Marcio Tacato with an insane ko

2644
02:00:26,960 --> 02:00:28,240
Speaker 2: to make this week's countdown.

2645
02:00:29,680 --> 02:00:34,360
Speaker 1: Oh that left took off the clinch break and I

2646
02:00:34,360 --> 02:00:36,640
Speaker 1: think he switch stances. Let's see. I have to go

2647
02:00:36,680 --> 02:00:37,480
Speaker 1: back and watch it again.

2648
02:00:38,240 --> 02:00:40,680
Speaker 2: Nice? What's that white backdrop?

2649
02:00:40,760 --> 02:00:40,960
Speaker 1: Luke?

2650
02:00:41,000 --> 02:00:41,560
Speaker 2: What are we doing?

2651
02:00:42,160 --> 02:00:44,880
Speaker 1: So? Do you remember when Dream one time used the

2652
02:00:44,920 --> 02:00:48,000
Speaker 1: white cage hold on? No, he did not switch stances.

2653
02:00:48,320 --> 02:00:54,320
Speaker 1: How he changes angles a little bit. Yeah, they used

2654
02:00:54,480 --> 02:00:57,120
Speaker 1: like a white surface and then a white pads, and

2655
02:00:57,160 --> 02:01:01,320
Speaker 1: then the fence itself was white and it was again

2656
02:01:01,680 --> 02:01:03,760
Speaker 1: someone correct me on the details. I believe it was

2657
02:01:03,960 --> 02:01:08,360
Speaker 1: tuna netting. It was tuna netting that obviously you can imagine.

2658
02:01:08,400 --> 02:01:11,560
Speaker 1: Tuna fishing is huge in Japan and they use that

2659
02:01:11,600 --> 02:01:13,240
Speaker 1: and I think the fighters were saying that, like it

2660
02:01:13,320 --> 02:01:15,200
Speaker 1: fucking hurt to get pressed up against it in more

2661
02:01:15,240 --> 02:01:16,040
Speaker 1: ways than normal.

2662
02:01:16,120 --> 02:01:18,840
Speaker 2: But I just don't understand that that white wall in

2663
02:01:18,880 --> 02:01:21,160
Speaker 2: the background, that's pretty weird. But that's the regional I'm

2664
02:01:21,200 --> 02:01:23,200
Speaker 2: a may scene. All right, two quick ones for you, Luke.

2665
02:01:23,520 --> 02:01:25,360
Speaker 2: Here's a good way to spend your Saturday night when

2666
02:01:25,400 --> 02:01:30,000
Speaker 2: you're unemployed and single.

2667
02:01:34,080 --> 02:01:35,200
Speaker 1: How many times have you done that?

2668
02:01:36,040 --> 02:01:38,200
Speaker 2: I actually never have I witnessed the guy do it

2669
02:01:38,280 --> 02:01:42,520
Speaker 2: inside the ESPN newsroom once. Shout out to UFC Steve Guyet,

2670
02:01:42,800 --> 02:01:46,360
Speaker 2: a fantastically talented video producer who I used to work with.

2671
02:01:46,400 --> 02:01:47,240
Speaker 2: It go back.

2672
02:01:47,280 --> 02:01:50,560
Speaker 1: I want to just watch this Darwin Award, you know,

2673
02:01:50,800 --> 02:01:54,800
Speaker 1: live and breathe. I mean, look at this, just you can't.

2674
02:01:54,800 --> 02:01:57,800
Speaker 1: I mean, look, what really sells it for me is

2675
02:01:57,800 --> 02:02:00,640
Speaker 1: not that he lit us far on fire, rather the

2676
02:02:00,760 --> 02:02:02,840
Speaker 1: look of sheer panic at the very end.

2677
02:02:03,560 --> 02:02:05,040
Speaker 2: This is one of those where I'd love to see

2678
02:02:05,040 --> 02:02:07,160
Speaker 2: what happened next. Did he completely go up and flames?

2679
02:02:07,200 --> 02:02:07,400
Speaker 4: Luke?

2680
02:02:08,200 --> 02:02:09,440
Speaker 1: I hope I really do?

2681
02:02:09,920 --> 02:02:12,560
Speaker 2: All right? Finally, Luke, speaking of your old man ways,

2682
02:02:12,600 --> 02:02:14,520
Speaker 2: this is probably you in about twenty five years when

2683
02:02:14,520 --> 02:02:16,240
Speaker 2: your daughter has or probably less than that, when your

2684
02:02:16,280 --> 02:02:19,680
Speaker 2: daughter has her first alcoholic that party and you walk

2685
02:02:19,680 --> 02:02:22,040
Speaker 2: home to it. Here is how you break up your

2686
02:02:22,120 --> 02:02:23,840
Speaker 2: kids party. Zoom in.

2687
02:02:23,920 --> 02:02:27,120
Speaker 1: Please, Oh this motherfucker got them?

2688
02:02:27,840 --> 02:02:28,320
Speaker 2: The saw?

2689
02:02:29,720 --> 02:02:33,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, bro, where I come from, Where I come from?

2690
02:02:33,560 --> 02:02:34,880
Speaker 1: The saw is the law.

2691
02:02:36,480 --> 02:02:41,560
Speaker 2: Everybody out, all right, no dog jokes, all right. It's

2692
02:02:41,640 --> 02:02:42,920
Speaker 2: called a cover.

2693
02:02:43,320 --> 02:02:45,560
Speaker 1: Everybody out all right? Wait, wait, hold on it. You

2694
02:02:45,600 --> 02:02:47,480
Speaker 1: can kill me for the your dog stuff. That's fine.

2695
02:02:47,560 --> 02:02:49,280
Speaker 1: It is called a cover. You cannot call it a.

2696
02:02:49,280 --> 02:02:51,560
Speaker 2: Half, all right. I love your I love how you

2697
02:02:51,720 --> 02:02:54,160
Speaker 2: no sould though the text I sent you, I wish

2698
02:02:54,160 --> 02:02:55,520
Speaker 2: I could shout out the guy who sent it to

2699
02:02:55,560 --> 02:03:01,160
Speaker 2: me on Instagram from the Paris Island Marines Museum Facebook account.

2700
02:03:01,400 --> 02:03:03,760
Speaker 2: They showed the history of the marine cover.

2701
02:03:03,960 --> 02:03:06,600
Speaker 1: Dude, are you under the impression that what you're about

2702
02:03:06,600 --> 02:03:08,800
Speaker 1: to say is that what it's actually called as a hat?

2703
02:03:09,120 --> 02:03:11,920
Speaker 1: Because I will warn you there isn't a single person

2704
02:03:11,960 --> 02:03:14,120
Speaker 1: who has ever served in the Marine Corps that will

2705
02:03:14,160 --> 02:03:17,160
Speaker 1: back that up. No one, and I saw no one

2706
02:03:17,400 --> 02:03:20,240
Speaker 1: called marine. Might have been called that in the twenties

2707
02:03:20,280 --> 02:03:25,840
Speaker 1: and the teens is possible, but under modern parlance, it

2708
02:03:25,920 --> 02:03:29,360
Speaker 1: is never, ever, ever referred to as a hat. Ever.

2709
02:03:29,960 --> 02:03:32,680
Speaker 1: It is a campaign cover for the for the drill

2710
02:03:32,720 --> 02:03:35,800
Speaker 1: instructors and everyone else. It's just a cover.

2711
02:03:35,920 --> 02:03:38,520
Speaker 2: It's okay. Not only did I have marines reach out

2712
02:03:38,560 --> 02:03:40,760
Speaker 2: to me and say, Luke, Luke is being ridiculous, he's

2713
02:03:40,760 --> 02:03:41,400
Speaker 2: being pdical.

2714
02:03:41,480 --> 02:03:44,600
Speaker 1: He's not, dude. Never, in my entire I've never been

2715
02:03:44,640 --> 02:03:47,080
Speaker 1: on a base or talked to any other marine that

2716
02:03:47,320 --> 02:03:52,840
Speaker 1: ever called it a hat ever ever, literally, not one time.

2717
02:03:53,640 --> 02:03:55,280
Speaker 1: You can you can kill me for the your dog stuff,

2718
02:03:55,280 --> 02:03:57,040
Speaker 1: because that is old man ship, one hundred percent. I'm

2719
02:03:57,040 --> 02:03:59,440
Speaker 1: guilty as charged, no doubt about it. But the cover

2720
02:03:59,560 --> 02:04:01,520
Speaker 1: is just as what it's called, bro, It's just what

2721
02:04:01,560 --> 02:04:02,080
Speaker 1: it's called.

2722
02:04:02,400 --> 02:04:04,920
Speaker 2: Well, I saw two Marines at the Patriots game yesterday

2723
02:04:04,920 --> 02:04:06,960
Speaker 2: and I almost stopped them to ask them, you shouldn't

2724
02:04:06,960 --> 02:04:09,960
Speaker 2: give me a dirty look, Luke and from the us

2725
02:04:10,280 --> 02:04:14,160
Speaker 2: MC Museum Paris Island Facebook account, The history of the

2726
02:04:14,160 --> 02:04:18,480
Speaker 2: field cover, also known as the field Hat. Come on, Luke, Okay,

2727
02:04:19,160 --> 02:04:19,960
Speaker 2: In nineteen no.

2728
02:04:19,920 --> 02:04:22,120
Speaker 1: One calls it a hat. Yeah, nineteen, whatever it may

2729
02:04:22,120 --> 02:04:23,240
Speaker 1: have been, no one calls it a hat.

2730
02:04:23,320 --> 02:04:26,160
Speaker 2: In nineteen twelve, Marines calling the hat a field hat.

2731
02:04:26,360 --> 02:04:28,200
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, it's the history.

2732
02:04:28,040 --> 02:04:31,680
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, pre World War One. Perhaps it was mixed.

2733
02:04:32,080 --> 02:04:34,200
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, dude. So here's what happens. Let me

2734
02:04:34,240 --> 02:04:36,160
Speaker 1: just give you a quick explanation of this. When you

2735
02:04:36,200 --> 02:04:38,839
Speaker 1: show up to Paris Island, they tell you that things

2736
02:04:38,880 --> 02:04:42,640
Speaker 1: that have names no longer have names. Some of those

2737
02:04:42,680 --> 02:04:45,840
Speaker 1: things are names that are you never heard before. Some

2738
02:04:45,920 --> 02:04:48,320
Speaker 1: of them are names for things you already have previously named.

2739
02:04:48,360 --> 02:04:50,800
Speaker 1: Like you may not know this. You can't say the

2740
02:04:50,920 --> 02:04:52,960
Speaker 1: left side of the room or the right side of

2741
02:04:53,000 --> 02:04:54,400
Speaker 1: the room. You have to say, I see what you're doing.

2742
02:04:54,480 --> 02:04:56,680
Speaker 1: You're being an asshole. You have to say the port

2743
02:04:56,800 --> 02:04:59,080
Speaker 1: side of the room or the starboard side of the room.

2744
02:04:59,120 --> 02:05:00,720
Speaker 1: It is not the front or the back. It is

2745
02:05:00,760 --> 02:05:03,400
Speaker 1: the bow or the aft, which obviously comes from being

2746
02:05:03,400 --> 02:05:06,120
Speaker 1: a part of the navy. They're not called sneakers. They're

2747
02:05:06,120 --> 02:05:09,880
Speaker 1: called go fasters. They're not called window windows or no glasses.

2748
02:05:09,920 --> 02:05:13,840
Speaker 1: They're called portholes whatever they fuck they called them. Uh anyway,

2749
02:05:13,920 --> 02:05:17,040
Speaker 1: it's not a hat. It's a cover. It will always

2750
02:05:17,120 --> 02:05:19,760
Speaker 1: be a cover, it will never not be a cover.

2751
02:05:19,960 --> 02:05:22,280
Speaker 1: It's not a hat. You will not find another marine

2752
02:05:22,280 --> 02:05:24,720
Speaker 1: who calls it a hat. It's not possible. It's just

2753
02:05:24,800 --> 02:05:27,360
Speaker 1: not what they're called. Yes, fog up those fucking lenses,

2754
02:05:27,400 --> 02:05:31,560
Speaker 1: you douche bag. I like how you're like, I'm super

2755
02:05:31,560 --> 02:05:36,240
Speaker 1: pro military. You're the most insulting fuck I know. Do

2756
02:05:36,280 --> 02:05:39,040
Speaker 1: you really mean to say, after six years, I'm making

2757
02:05:39,080 --> 02:05:41,640
Speaker 1: this up? Like, that's not what we learned. We learn

2758
02:05:41,680 --> 02:05:45,160
Speaker 1: that shit on day one, Day one, not a hat cover.

2759
02:05:46,160 --> 02:05:50,480
Speaker 2: With my field hat on. I will say, thank you.

2760
02:05:52,200 --> 02:05:58,480
Speaker 1: I hope you suffocate. We got time for odds and ends, asshole?

2761
02:05:58,520 --> 02:06:01,240
Speaker 2: What do you got I was actually gonna walk off.

2762
02:06:01,280 --> 02:06:05,360
Speaker 2: I forgot about it, all right? Yeah, so, Luke, here's

2763
02:06:05,400 --> 02:06:08,160
Speaker 2: the deal. You know, I may be a Showtime guy,

2764
02:06:09,840 --> 02:06:11,880
Speaker 2: but Showtime's doing some good shit right now. Did you

2765
02:06:11,920 --> 02:06:16,960
Speaker 2: happen to see the all access epilogue of Canelo Plant

2766
02:06:16,960 --> 02:06:18,520
Speaker 2: which debuted Saurday night. Did you see that?

2767
02:06:18,640 --> 02:06:20,720
Speaker 1: I did? I did. I thought it was fucking great.

2768
02:06:21,080 --> 02:06:23,320
Speaker 2: I really want to shout out not only Showtime, who

2769
02:06:23,320 --> 02:06:25,240
Speaker 2: does a great job on that series in general, but

2770
02:06:25,280 --> 02:06:27,920
Speaker 2: both Canelo and Caleb Plant. If you watch it, it basically

2771
02:06:28,000 --> 02:06:31,000
Speaker 2: recaps from Friday morning before the fight all the way

2772
02:06:31,040 --> 02:06:33,440
Speaker 2: through the end of it, with the inside moments and

2773
02:06:33,760 --> 02:06:36,080
Speaker 2: really the way they film and capture the fight itself

2774
02:06:36,400 --> 02:06:38,440
Speaker 2: and get comments from those I mean, I didn't know

2775
02:06:38,520 --> 02:06:41,200
Speaker 2: Jamal Charlo was sitting ringside telling his brother I could

2776
02:06:41,240 --> 02:06:43,160
Speaker 2: beat Canelo. I was like fired up when I when

2777
02:06:43,160 --> 02:06:46,800
Speaker 2: I heard that, Luke. The respect shown by Caleb and

2778
02:06:46,840 --> 02:06:49,680
Speaker 2: Canelo afterwards when they were miked up hugging each other,

2779
02:06:49,720 --> 02:06:53,200
Speaker 2: and you know, uh, Caleb just looking for that respect

2780
02:06:53,200 --> 02:06:55,600
Speaker 2: from Canelo and saying I would never disrespect from your mother,

2781
02:06:55,680 --> 02:06:58,040
Speaker 2: and you know Canelo saying, you know you're part of

2782
02:06:58,040 --> 02:06:59,760
Speaker 2: my family. Now I respect you, I love you. I mean,

2783
02:06:59,800 --> 02:07:03,080
Speaker 2: that was just Luke again in a sport without like

2784
02:07:04,080 --> 02:07:08,520
Speaker 2: legitimately touching moments. That was one of those like real

2785
02:07:08,560 --> 02:07:10,640
Speaker 2: men stuff right there. I appreciate that, but really I

2786
02:07:10,720 --> 02:07:12,960
Speaker 2: want to shout out we always say thirty days free

2787
02:07:12,960 --> 02:07:14,880
Speaker 2: on Showtime and you can get some good stuff. How

2788
02:07:14,880 --> 02:07:18,720
Speaker 2: about the Kevin Garnett documentary Anything as Possible. It debuted

2789
02:07:18,800 --> 02:07:22,080
Speaker 2: last week. Our good buddy Brian Daily who was a

2790
02:07:22,080 --> 02:07:24,440
Speaker 2: big part of that getting that launched in Showtime Digital.

2791
02:07:25,480 --> 02:07:29,240
Speaker 2: That is a fantastic watch. Whether you're a you know,

2792
02:07:29,360 --> 02:07:32,320
Speaker 2: hardcore KG fan like myself as a Celtics fan, or

2793
02:07:32,400 --> 02:07:36,120
Speaker 2: not to see the intensity on full display of KG

2794
02:07:36,520 --> 02:07:39,000
Speaker 2: as he reallylives his career. You really get to know

2795
02:07:39,040 --> 02:07:41,480
Speaker 2: the man. But some of the storytelling and the behind

2796
02:07:41,520 --> 02:07:45,560
Speaker 2: the scenes stuff, it's hilarious, it's insightful. It was a

2797
02:07:45,640 --> 02:07:48,640
Speaker 2: fantastic watch, one of the better docs you know, in

2798
02:07:49,080 --> 02:07:51,640
Speaker 2: recent years. So anyone out there, if you're getting your

2799
02:07:51,680 --> 02:07:55,000
Speaker 2: thirty days free for it doesn't cost anything, folks, this

2800
02:07:55,000 --> 02:07:57,680
Speaker 2: would be a hell of a watch looking back at cag's.

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Speaker 1: Run, no doubt about it, no doubt about it. That's

2802
02:08:00,280 --> 02:08:02,840
Speaker 1: a great point. Also, like with the epilogue for all

2803
02:08:02,880 --> 02:08:05,880
Speaker 1: Access for Canelo versus Plant I know there was there

2804
02:08:05,920 --> 02:08:08,080
Speaker 1: was the video that went viral about a week or

2805
02:08:08,120 --> 02:08:11,520
Speaker 1: so ago after the fight where Canelo is being talked

2806
02:08:11,560 --> 02:08:13,600
Speaker 1: to by Plant like I'm pretty good, huh, Like I

2807
02:08:13,600 --> 02:08:15,560
Speaker 1: got your respect? How that kind of a thing? And

2808
02:08:15,640 --> 02:08:18,240
Speaker 1: folks are like, oh, here's Plant looking for respect. This

2809
02:08:18,320 --> 02:08:20,360
Speaker 1: is this is week, this is weak sauce, and it's like,

2810
02:08:20,400 --> 02:08:23,160
Speaker 1: I don't I don't love that per se, But dude,

2811
02:08:23,360 --> 02:08:27,720
Speaker 1: Like in the end, Plant got Canelo's respect. That's enough

2812
02:08:27,720 --> 02:08:30,960
Speaker 1: for me, right, Like whatever else they did in the round,

2813
02:08:31,080 --> 02:08:32,960
Speaker 1: like it was a little strange to do that. It's

2814
02:08:32,960 --> 02:08:35,320
Speaker 1: a little strange to do that, but he earned my

2815
02:08:35,400 --> 02:08:37,560
Speaker 1: respect with the way he fought. He clearly earned Canelo's

2816
02:08:37,600 --> 02:08:39,360
Speaker 1: respect with the way he fought to me, Like, there

2817
02:08:39,360 --> 02:08:41,000
Speaker 1: should be no more controversy about that.

2818
02:08:41,040 --> 02:08:43,840
Speaker 2: Absolutely, you and I had a conversation with that off here.

2819
02:08:43,840 --> 02:08:44,800
Speaker 2: I was like, you know, how do you how do

2820
02:08:44,840 --> 02:08:46,200
Speaker 2: you take this? A lot of people are ripping him,

2821
02:08:46,240 --> 02:08:48,840
Speaker 2: but you're right, you know, he part what this was

2822
02:08:48,880 --> 02:08:51,680
Speaker 2: about for Kayleb Plant was winning, but it was about

2823
02:08:52,000 --> 02:08:54,480
Speaker 2: showing Canelo and showing everyone that he really is that good.

2824
02:08:54,520 --> 02:08:57,400
Speaker 2: And Luke, I've seen some people, you know, go okay, okay,

2825
02:08:57,400 --> 02:08:59,680
Speaker 2: he survived a while, but was he really trying to win?

2826
02:09:00,400 --> 02:09:02,200
Speaker 2: Caleb Play fought a very good fight Luke. You know,

2827
02:09:02,320 --> 02:09:03,760
Speaker 2: it turns out he was fighting the best in the

2828
02:09:03,760 --> 02:09:07,040
Speaker 2: world and he did better than a lot of Canelo opponents,

2829
02:09:07,120 --> 02:09:10,040
Speaker 2: and I think this will elevate him moving forward. And

2830
02:09:10,040 --> 02:09:12,040
Speaker 2: there was a nice little exchange on the All Exis

2831
02:09:12,200 --> 02:09:14,800
Speaker 2: between him and Jamal Charlow where you know, Caleb's like,

2832
02:09:14,840 --> 02:09:16,760
Speaker 2: I'll see you, I'll see you in the ring someday,

2833
02:09:16,800 --> 02:09:20,280
Speaker 2: and Jamal welcomed it. And there's some fun matches to

2834
02:09:20,320 --> 02:09:22,520
Speaker 2: make in the PBC at sick around in and around

2835
02:09:22,560 --> 02:09:24,880
Speaker 2: the one hundred and sixty eight pound division moving forward,

2836
02:09:24,920 --> 02:09:25,440
Speaker 2: so it should be.

2837
02:09:25,360 --> 02:09:29,160
Speaker 1: Good just for me as BKFC results. BC and your

2838
02:09:29,240 --> 02:09:34,560
Speaker 1: girl got it done again. Britton Hart defeated Pearl Gonzal's

2839
02:09:34,640 --> 02:09:38,360
Speaker 1: vegnanimous decision. She got two forty eight forty sevens forty six.

2840
02:09:38,560 --> 02:09:40,440
Speaker 1: I actually watched it. I had a forty eight forty seven.

2841
02:09:40,480 --> 02:09:42,760
Speaker 1: Although I understand what the forty nine think. It's that crazy.

2842
02:09:43,080 --> 02:09:46,360
Speaker 1: Pearl Gonzales was a game opponent, especially in the third round.

2843
02:09:46,360 --> 02:09:48,200
Speaker 1: I thought she had done some good work. But dude,

2844
02:09:48,640 --> 02:09:52,360
Speaker 1: Britton Hart gets the win. BC. If I mean it's

2845
02:09:52,400 --> 02:09:56,440
Speaker 1: not MMA, it's BKFC or you know, baryonnuckle fighting. But

2846
02:09:56,640 --> 02:10:00,000
Speaker 1: I mean, is she your prototypical candidate for a Factory

2847
02:10:00,040 --> 02:10:01,840
Speaker 1: Town MMA sponsorship? It feels like she is.

2848
02:10:02,080 --> 02:10:03,400
Speaker 2: I thought you were gonna say women's Fight of the

2849
02:10:03,440 --> 02:10:05,480
Speaker 2: Year in Combat Sports, Fighter of the AARs like, I

2850
02:10:05,480 --> 02:10:08,280
Speaker 2: think you're right. Yeah, Look she she she she bleeds

2851
02:10:09,040 --> 02:10:11,440
Speaker 2: Factory Town MMA. In fact, I should probably make her

2852
02:10:11,480 --> 02:10:13,880
Speaker 2: a spokesman for the brand. She has officially changed her

2853
02:10:13,920 --> 02:10:16,120
Speaker 2: name and social media now to Britton Beltran since the

2854
02:10:16,200 --> 02:10:18,760
Speaker 2: marriage to Joey Beltran. But I saw some people saying

2855
02:10:18,800 --> 02:10:20,880
Speaker 2: she didn't deserve this decision. It was a hard for

2856
02:10:21,000 --> 02:10:23,400
Speaker 2: to see that finishing sequence. Her face is all cut

2857
02:10:23,440 --> 02:10:25,200
Speaker 2: open and she's getting in Pearl's face talks.

2858
02:10:25,680 --> 02:10:27,080
Speaker 1: Who thought Pearl Gonzales won?

2859
02:10:27,840 --> 02:10:30,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, there were there were some people, but that was

2860
02:10:30,080 --> 02:10:32,960
Speaker 2: another gritty performance. Look to me, Brittain Hart's had some

2861
02:10:33,000 --> 02:10:36,000
Speaker 2: pro boxing matches, but Luke, she's she didn't come into

2862
02:10:36,040 --> 02:10:40,040
Speaker 2: this newfound stardom as as like a forget household name,

2863
02:10:40,120 --> 02:10:43,240
Speaker 2: as you know, anybody really recognizing her as anything. She's

2864
02:10:43,280 --> 02:10:45,600
Speaker 2: taken this platform and really made something. You know, It's

2865
02:10:45,680 --> 02:10:47,960
Speaker 2: it's good to see. She's she's fun. She talks that shit.

2866
02:10:48,040 --> 02:10:48,720
Speaker 2: It's fun to see.

2867
02:10:49,080 --> 02:10:51,720
Speaker 1: I'll say this. I think it's good to see people

2868
02:10:51,800 --> 02:10:55,600
Speaker 1: who are better like it kind of would have taken

2869
02:10:55,640 --> 02:10:58,240
Speaker 1: the steam out of BKFC if MMA fighters just go

2870
02:10:58,280 --> 02:11:00,240
Speaker 1: over there and immediately just take over, you know what

2871
02:11:00,280 --> 02:11:04,160
Speaker 1: I mean. It's good to see somebody who tries to

2872
02:11:04,200 --> 02:11:08,560
Speaker 1: make BKFC their primary lane of success. I'm sure Brittonhart

2873
02:11:08,560 --> 02:11:11,640
Speaker 1: has experimented with other combat sports, but you know, this

2874
02:11:11,720 --> 02:11:15,120
Speaker 1: is obviously her best road to achieving her goals and

2875
02:11:15,160 --> 02:11:17,840
Speaker 1: has made that like her bread and butter, like this

2876
02:11:17,880 --> 02:11:21,400
Speaker 1: particular style of fighting, because without that, it's just going

2877
02:11:21,440 --> 02:11:24,600
Speaker 1: to be you know, MMA leftovers. This kind of changed

2878
02:11:24,600 --> 02:11:26,680
Speaker 1: the game up a little bit for her and for

2879
02:11:26,760 --> 02:11:29,440
Speaker 1: the sport. So that's agree. Well, the way Marcus Brimage

2880
02:11:29,440 --> 02:11:33,040
Speaker 1: was on this card really yeah, I thought he was

2881
02:11:33,080 --> 02:11:33,960
Speaker 1: done so, but I'm just.

2882
02:11:34,160 --> 02:11:37,760
Speaker 2: Waiting for that contum rematch. Maybe we get that in BKFC. Luke,

2883
02:11:37,840 --> 02:11:40,720
Speaker 2: I apologize to you in any other veteran if that

2884
02:11:40,880 --> 02:11:45,040
Speaker 2: if my stick comes across as annoying, corny or blasphemous,

2885
02:11:45,160 --> 02:11:46,960
Speaker 2: you know I respect you, and I know I.

2886
02:11:46,880 --> 02:11:49,360
Speaker 1: Mean I treat the flag and believe it or not,

2887
02:11:49,480 --> 02:11:52,000
Speaker 1: and the uniform with such reverence that when I see

2888
02:11:52,000 --> 02:11:56,640
Speaker 1: some asshole hippie who bought some piece of military uniform

2889
02:11:57,000 --> 02:12:01,360
Speaker 1: from a Salvation Army store. I typically want to wrangle him,

2890
02:12:01,520 --> 02:12:04,880
Speaker 1: but you know that's not legal, so I don't. But

2891
02:12:04,960 --> 02:12:06,400
Speaker 1: the only thing you can do it I don't like

2892
02:12:06,440 --> 02:12:07,600
Speaker 1: it when you do that, but I you know, you

2893
02:12:07,720 --> 02:12:08,560
Speaker 1: know it's all on good fun.

2894
02:12:08,600 --> 02:12:10,000
Speaker 2: So I have the only thing you could do after

2895
02:12:10,040 --> 02:12:12,360
Speaker 2: bad offensive comedy is apologize. Look, I've done that to

2896
02:12:12,360 --> 02:12:14,320
Speaker 2: our staff many times. Okay, I'm sorry, Luke.

2897
02:12:14,720 --> 02:12:17,160
Speaker 1: Sorry, Yeah, but that's more so just because you were

2898
02:12:17,320 --> 02:12:19,440
Speaker 1: you more than it was like a bad offensive comedy.

2899
02:12:19,560 --> 02:12:23,720
Speaker 1: You are bad offensive comedy. Okay, BC. I think that's

2900
02:12:23,760 --> 02:12:26,800
Speaker 1: it for today. Oh do we have anything to read?

2901
02:12:26,840 --> 02:12:26,880
Speaker 4: No?

2902
02:12:26,960 --> 02:12:28,000
Speaker 1: I think we can do it after the show.

2903
02:12:28,080 --> 02:12:29,720
Speaker 2: All right, you want to do a third hour? Look,

2904
02:12:29,720 --> 02:12:30,720
Speaker 2: you might as well just keep going.

2905
02:12:30,760 --> 02:12:32,600
Speaker 1: You know we could. We could. It's that kind of

2906
02:12:32,640 --> 02:12:35,520
Speaker 1: a show. Let's remind folks to check out Showtime. We

2907
02:12:36,120 --> 02:12:38,160
Speaker 1: give Showtime a lot of love on this goddamn show.

2908
02:12:38,440 --> 02:12:40,800
Speaker 1: So Showtime dot Com thirty day free trophy, like you

2909
02:12:40,840 --> 02:12:42,800
Speaker 1: can keep it and if now you can do something else.

2910
02:12:42,920 --> 02:12:45,280
Speaker 1: You can watch Bellator, you can watch boxing, and you

2911
02:12:45,280 --> 02:12:48,320
Speaker 1: can watch Kg's documentary and a shitload of other things

2912
02:12:48,760 --> 02:12:50,600
Speaker 1: all right there, and if you don't like it, you

2913
02:12:50,600 --> 02:12:52,120
Speaker 1: can just dump it and go do something else. So

2914
02:12:52,200 --> 02:12:55,360
Speaker 1: there you go. You can email the show for Wednesdays

2915
02:12:55,520 --> 02:12:59,080
Speaker 1: fan subs, Fridays dead wrong. Morning Combat at gmail dot

2916
02:12:59,120 --> 02:13:02,400
Speaker 1: com is gonna be the place that and uh, don't

2917
02:13:02,400 --> 02:13:05,640
Speaker 1: forget our merch right this one. Morning Coombat dot Store

2918
02:13:05,760 --> 02:13:07,200
Speaker 1: is gonna be the place you see. What's the update

2919
02:13:07,240 --> 02:13:08,440
Speaker 1: on drug rugs anything?

2920
02:13:08,760 --> 02:13:11,120
Speaker 2: They're coming, That's where we're at right now. They're coming. Okay,

2921
02:13:11,160 --> 02:13:13,640
Speaker 2: we're making a big push to the to the christ

2922
02:13:13,960 --> 02:13:17,200
Speaker 2: so sorry the holiday themed one and that's coming out. Also,

2923
02:13:17,280 --> 02:13:19,880
Speaker 2: gift cards are available at Morning Coombat dot store for you.

2924
02:13:20,080 --> 02:13:22,000
Speaker 2: That's right, if you if you always hear your hobby

2925
02:13:22,080 --> 02:13:23,720
Speaker 2: laughing about this show, or if you're one of our

2926
02:13:23,760 --> 02:13:28,440
Speaker 2: female We apparently have real, real female listeners. Luke, I mean,

2927
02:13:28,480 --> 02:13:31,240
Speaker 2: you know, shout out to Melissa loves Nacho's big time

2928
02:13:31,280 --> 02:13:31,960
Speaker 2: fan of our show.

2929
02:13:32,640 --> 02:13:36,560
Speaker 1: Ah, yes, that's true, that's true. That's true. But you

2930
02:13:36,600 --> 02:13:39,960
Speaker 1: know how many normal well how many normal males or

2931
02:13:40,000 --> 02:13:41,360
Speaker 1: females do we have watching this show.

2932
02:13:41,360 --> 02:13:44,320
Speaker 2: By the way, the wonderful New Jersey couple that offered

2933
02:13:44,400 --> 02:13:47,360
Speaker 2: us a spot in their home Luke and dinner. They

2934
02:13:47,360 --> 02:13:49,600
Speaker 2: did reach out in the and the guy showed me

2935
02:13:49,640 --> 02:13:52,960
Speaker 2: a copy of both his license and his marijuana card,

2936
02:13:53,200 --> 02:13:55,080
Speaker 2: and we're like, no, we're legit. We're for real. If

2937
02:13:55,080 --> 02:13:56,840
Speaker 2: you guys want to come over, we will not steal

2938
02:13:56,840 --> 02:13:57,320
Speaker 2: your organs.

2939
02:13:57,400 --> 02:13:59,760
Speaker 1: So look, I think I think we should do that ship.

2940
02:13:59,720 --> 02:14:02,280
Speaker 2: Yeah from Italy. We got to take that game, but

2941
02:14:02,280 --> 02:14:04,040
Speaker 2: we got to roll that dice. Okay, let's do that.

2942
02:14:04,080 --> 02:14:06,120
Speaker 1: I think. I think listen, most of the people if

2943
02:14:06,160 --> 02:14:07,560
Speaker 1: we did this, we show up to their house and

2944
02:14:07,600 --> 02:14:09,160
Speaker 1: they'd be like, Wow, your house is nubs, I don't

2945
02:14:09,160 --> 02:14:11,320
Speaker 1: want to be here, and uh, you know that might

2946
02:14:11,320 --> 02:14:13,720
Speaker 1: make terrible conversation. But we could go over there. I

2947
02:14:13,760 --> 02:14:16,240
Speaker 1: could blow up their bathroom, we could drink their wine

2948
02:14:16,280 --> 02:14:17,920
Speaker 1: and then we could just leave. You know what I'm saying.

2949
02:14:18,000 --> 02:14:20,600
Speaker 2: We should make that a recurring bit, not a documentary,

2950
02:14:20,600 --> 02:14:23,520
Speaker 2: but like in WWF in your House, MK comes to

2951
02:14:23,560 --> 02:14:25,560
Speaker 2: your house, and you know, we'll we'll make fun of

2952
02:14:25,600 --> 02:14:27,680
Speaker 2: all your stuff and you'll feed us and we'll just

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Speaker 2: you know, it's great with you.

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Speaker 1: Look, listen, we'll go to your house, I'll roast your

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Speaker 1: cable management BC, we'll try and bang your wife and

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Speaker 1: then we'll leave.

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Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no, Luca. Right, all right, that's great.

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Speaker 2: That's all I got.

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Speaker 1: Let's see what else we got to do, you know,

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Speaker 1: give us a review on Apple and a bunch of

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Speaker 1: other places. Okay, so well, don't lose sight. Extra credit

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Speaker 1: that's coming after the show. We're back on Wednesday. We

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Speaker 1: got a lot to do. So that's Brian Campbell. I'm

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Speaker 1: Luke Thomas. You can follow us all over social media

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Speaker 1: right there on the bottom of the screen if you like.

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Speaker 1: And if you're listening, it's Morning Combat everywhere. All right.

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Speaker 1: That is it for Brian Campbell, for Molka, for showtime,

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Speaker 1: for CBS Sports. I'm Luke Thomas. Until next time, may

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Speaker 1: all of your gains be loyal.