WEBVTT - Draft Show: 30 for 30 0:00:03.120 --> 0:00:05.640 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.680 --> 0:00:13.680 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This is the 0:00:13.760 --> 0:00:19.400 Dallascowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war room for insider 0:00:19.520 --> 0:00:23.119 news and draft analysis from deep within the confines of 0:00:23.200 --> 0:00:24.840 Cowboys headquarters at the. 0:00:24.760 --> 0:00:25.720 Star and Frisco. 0:00:28.760 --> 0:00:33.000 Today is Tuesday, April second, twenty twenty four. It's officially 0:00:33.080 --> 0:00:36.199 Draft month and we are twenty three days away from 0:00:36.240 --> 0:00:38.559 the NFL Draft in Detroit, Michigan. 0:00:38.600 --> 0:00:39.640 Welcome in to the. 0:00:39.680 --> 0:00:42.440 Draft Show, presented by Miller Lte a taste you can 0:00:42.479 --> 0:00:46.159 depend on. We've got Ayisha Morrison, Brian brought us, Nick Harris, 0:00:46.360 --> 0:00:50.120 Zach Walchuk, I'm Kyle Yeomans with Chris Beam running everything 0:00:50.240 --> 0:00:50.920 in the back. 0:00:51.000 --> 0:00:51.440 All right. 0:00:52.040 --> 0:00:56.160 We're within twenty three days. Pro days concluded, including Big 0:00:56.200 --> 0:00:59.320 twelve Protey across the way this past weekend. Got to 0:00:59.320 --> 0:01:02.960 see some fun aspects over there. We've got thirty visits 0:01:03.000 --> 0:01:05.440 happening this week. There's a lot going on around the building. 0:01:05.520 --> 0:01:09.640 Nick Harris, Yeah, absolutely, thirty visits are starting tomorrow as 0:01:09.680 --> 0:01:12.679 we're talking. That'll be on April third. They'll go through Friday, 0:01:12.800 --> 0:01:16.080 and basically what will happen is these guys will come 0:01:16.080 --> 0:01:19.520 into the building and go through a car wash style, 0:01:20.640 --> 0:01:22.520 you know, meeting with the team. They'll meet with coach 0:01:22.600 --> 0:01:25.480 McCarthy and Jerry Jones, They'll meet with a scouting department, 0:01:25.480 --> 0:01:28.200 they'll meet with the position coaches. They'll meet with medicals, 0:01:28.240 --> 0:01:30.720 they'll meet with a security team, they'll meet with even the. 0:01:30.680 --> 0:01:31.440 Media a little bit. 0:01:31.720 --> 0:01:33.560 There's there's a lot that these guys will do within 0:01:33.560 --> 0:01:35.200 a span of you know, four to five hours and 0:01:35.240 --> 0:01:38.320 then right back on their flight back home. So's it's 0:01:38.319 --> 0:01:40.840 an opportunity for the Cowboys to be able to sit 0:01:40.880 --> 0:01:43.120 down in front of these guys, get an opportunity to 0:01:43.120 --> 0:01:44.839 know them a little bit better on a personal level. 0:01:45.080 --> 0:01:46.520 Also be able to talk some ball with them a 0:01:46.560 --> 0:01:46.920 little bit. 0:01:46.959 --> 0:01:48.800 You know, at the combine, you can meet with these 0:01:48.800 --> 0:01:51.880 guys for fifteen minutes, you know something, sometimes you can 0:01:51.880 --> 0:01:53.920 try to stretch that to twenty, so you can't really 0:01:53.920 --> 0:01:56.360 talk a whole lot in those twenty minutes, but you 0:01:56.440 --> 0:01:58.920 get them, you know, out of their natural element, get 0:01:58.920 --> 0:02:01.440 them in, get them in the building, see how they 0:02:01.480 --> 0:02:04.440 operate around other prospects as well. They do a big 0:02:04.480 --> 0:02:07.280 meeting beforehand with all the guys and that kind of 0:02:07.280 --> 0:02:09.440 gives them an opportunity to see what they do, you know, 0:02:09.480 --> 0:02:11.360 in a in a big group setting. So there's a 0:02:11.360 --> 0:02:13.040 lot that they can take out of these thirty visits. 0:02:13.080 --> 0:02:15.160 And it sounds like we'll have some names to drop 0:02:15.200 --> 0:02:15.880 here in a minute as well. 0:02:15.960 --> 0:02:17.760 Yeah, we're gonna have some names for you for the 0:02:17.760 --> 0:02:18.320 first time. 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:23.239 And there's a there's a long list of guys, Brian 0:02:23.360 --> 0:02:25.680 that have been on this Dallas Cowboys team and have 0:02:25.760 --> 0:02:28.000 been thirty visits. That's why you got to pay attention 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:29.960 to these visits because it's a. 0:02:29.960 --> 0:02:30.840 Pretty good indication. 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:33.080 It's a pretty good roadmap of what Dallas is thinking 0:02:33.120 --> 0:02:34.160 going in the draft weekend. 0:02:34.160 --> 0:02:37.040 Oh, you're absolutely right. That Dallas Day which they had 0:02:37.160 --> 0:02:43.160 yesterday is something that is very important to the scouting 0:02:43.240 --> 0:02:47.359 process and Nick did a great job of explaining exactly 0:02:48.040 --> 0:02:50.799 how the process is going to work for these players, 0:02:50.840 --> 0:02:54.320 and it's it's really the first opportunity too for Jerry 0:02:54.400 --> 0:02:57.240 Jones to sit down and to see and to meet 0:02:58.120 --> 0:03:02.480 with these prospects. He's he's seen the players from maybe 0:03:02.520 --> 0:03:05.600 a senior Bowl, maybe they've done some pre draft stuff, 0:03:05.639 --> 0:03:07.680 he's watched some tape, but to sit down and get 0:03:07.720 --> 0:03:10.400 a feel for these guys. I think it helps everybody 0:03:10.440 --> 0:03:13.600 in the organization to kind of understand maybe if you've 0:03:13.639 --> 0:03:15.760 got a couple of guys you're looking at on the 0:03:15.800 --> 0:03:19.000 board and that you've got similar grades on that thirty 0:03:19.080 --> 0:03:22.359 visit might sway you in that direction, because, hey, listen, 0:03:22.440 --> 0:03:25.000 we liked this kid. We brought him in. He handled 0:03:25.040 --> 0:03:28.600 the medical stuff, he handled all the interaction. Some of 0:03:28.639 --> 0:03:30.760 these kids will show up coat and tie and you 0:03:30.919 --> 0:03:34.640 kind of get impressed by that. I remember a time 0:03:34.680 --> 0:03:38.680 where when I was at Green Bay Packers, we brought 0:03:38.720 --> 0:03:41.720 in a gentleman named Bob Kerberski, and he was from 0:03:41.760 --> 0:03:43.800 the Naval Academy, and he showed up in his full 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:46.800 dress whites, and I said, you know what, this is 0:03:46.840 --> 0:03:50.040 amazing that, you know, add the fact that I took 0:03:50.120 --> 0:03:52.640 him to a taco bell because that's what he was craving. 0:03:53.320 --> 0:03:56.000 He goes, can we somehow go to a taco bell? 0:03:56.520 --> 0:03:58.680 And I said absolutely, And the fact that he did 0:03:58.680 --> 0:04:02.000 not spill one bit those tacos on those dress whites. 0:04:02.320 --> 0:04:04.960 Moving up the board, he went from fourth round guy 0:04:05.000 --> 0:04:07.839 in a second awareness. 0:04:08.640 --> 0:04:12.200 Not surprising that a Navy man was craving taco bell. 0:04:12.320 --> 0:04:14.520 Yeah, but that the first thing. That's the first thing 0:04:14.520 --> 0:04:16.720 he asked on a thirty visit, you know, the first 0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:19.520 thing he asked was he goes, could we stop at 0:04:19.520 --> 0:04:22.680 a taco bell? And I said, I said really, and 0:04:22.720 --> 0:04:25.919 he goes, he goes please, and I go, uh, we 0:04:25.960 --> 0:04:27.840 got so we went. We went in the line there 0:04:27.880 --> 0:04:30.720 and Bob ate his tacos full dress whites, and then 0:04:30.720 --> 0:04:32.800 we went on and met. But it's a thirty visits 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:36.280 is a great opportunity to be able to get a 0:04:36.360 --> 0:04:38.839 really even better feel for these kids. 0:04:38.960 --> 0:04:41.520 I love that story for two reasons. One because it's 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:43.800 the ultimate sign of respect for him to show up 0:04:43.839 --> 0:04:45.520 in all whites and to be able to have the 0:04:45.600 --> 0:04:48.320 dress whites on. But then also it shows like he's 0:04:48.360 --> 0:04:51.320 comfortable being him yeah regardless, you know, like you can 0:04:51.360 --> 0:04:53.440 take away little things, and that's part of what this 0:04:53.480 --> 0:04:56.000 week is is you get to take away just the little. 0:04:55.720 --> 0:04:57.600 Things and try and read in between the lines. 0:04:57.640 --> 0:05:00.960 And I think last year showed you Man's Mazzi Smith 0:05:01.080 --> 0:05:05.480 was a thirty visit. Matthew Bergeron was not a thirty visit. 0:05:05.839 --> 0:05:07.960 They were the ones that were on the board going 0:05:08.000 --> 0:05:09.320 into that twenty seventh. 0:05:09.120 --> 0:05:11.039 Overall pick that were being debated through. 0:05:11.440 --> 0:05:14.400 They ultimately ended up with Mazzie Smith probably, and I 0:05:14.440 --> 0:05:16.400 had heard he had a great thirty visit last year, 0:05:16.400 --> 0:05:19.200 so maybe that is part of why that decision was 0:05:19.200 --> 0:05:21.000 made and how they went that. Yeah, honestly, it's probably 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:23.320 the part of the entire draft process that I'm most 0:05:23.720 --> 0:05:25.840 envious about because we can sit there and honestly, the 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:27.520 film is probably the most important. 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:29.360 But you get to kind of get a feel for 0:05:29.440 --> 0:05:32.240 the human being. What makes this person tick, how much 0:05:32.279 --> 0:05:34.279 do they really love the game? 0:05:34.640 --> 0:05:36.480 You know, what are some of the little things. 0:05:36.200 --> 0:05:37.880 That Okay, I can get a feel for this guy 0:05:38.040 --> 0:05:41.640 characteristic wise versus some other prospects. So to your point, 0:05:41.839 --> 0:05:44.000 if you have guys that are close, like these offensive 0:05:44.040 --> 0:05:47.080 linemen that you might have similar grades on the dbs, 0:05:47.160 --> 0:05:50.080 the wide receivers that stretch, it's like, okay, we might 0:05:50.160 --> 0:05:52.880 have a third round grade on this guy. And all right, 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:54.240 here's a guy in the fourth that I think we'd 0:05:54.279 --> 0:05:56.240 be really happy with. He came in, we met with him, 0:05:56.360 --> 0:05:57.880 we know him, we got to know him. He's a 0:05:57.880 --> 0:06:01.039 family guy. The values are there check fundamentally everything we 0:06:01.080 --> 0:06:02.840 want in our locker room and in our building. 0:06:03.240 --> 0:06:05.400 Yeah, I mean, and then we already know what this team. 0:06:05.480 --> 0:06:06.839 I don't have a whole bunch to say about it because 0:06:06.880 --> 0:06:07.800 you don't said at all, But. 0:06:08.240 --> 0:06:11.640 This team is a what is the word I'm looking for? Connective. 0:06:12.360 --> 0:06:16.000 They we know that they can hinge on to you know, 0:06:16.080 --> 0:06:18.919 people that they meet, but they also too, They really, 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:21.600 maybe more than some other teams, value the one on 0:06:21.600 --> 0:06:25.000 one and the person and trying to connect to the 0:06:25.040 --> 0:06:28.400 player and things like that. So I'm definitely feeling like 0:06:28.720 --> 0:06:31.040 thirty day visits and also Dallas Day are going to 0:06:31.080 --> 0:06:33.919 be important to whatever even they have to replenish on 0:06:33.960 --> 0:06:36.560 practice squad as well in different areas like this is it. 0:06:36.800 --> 0:06:38.920 So all of this is important to the process. 0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:42.039 And it's still very early in the thirty visits. We 0:06:42.080 --> 0:06:44.040 don't have the full list, but we have some names 0:06:44.040 --> 0:06:44.799 that we can share. 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:49.640 Right Yeah, there we go. It's gonna come out dot 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:50.320 com right. 0:06:50.320 --> 0:06:53.000 Yeah, so I'll we'll have a little bit more names 0:06:53.040 --> 0:06:55.440 to share on Dallas Cowboys dot com later, so be 0:06:55.520 --> 0:06:57.640 sure and check into that. These are the names that 0:06:57.680 --> 0:06:59.760 have already been reported, so I'm not I'm not breaking 0:06:59.760 --> 0:07:00.599 any thing here we go. 0:07:01.600 --> 0:07:02.400 We'll start with those. 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:06.720 Linebacker Nathaniel Watson out Mississippi State SEC Linebacker of the 0:07:06.760 --> 0:07:10.120 Year last year. Really productive there for the Bulldogs. Linebacker 0:07:10.160 --> 0:07:11.800 Edrian Cooper out of Texas A and M. We've talked 0:07:11.800 --> 0:07:14.960 about him ad nauseum in my opinion, the best linebacker 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:19.320 in this class. Linebacker Trevin Wallace out of Kentucky. Shout 0:07:19.320 --> 0:07:21.120 out to Nicole Hudgeson for breaking that one about a 0:07:21.200 --> 0:07:25.040 month back and six two two twenty. Really really fun guy. 0:07:25.120 --> 0:07:28.360 We've talked about him a lot, really athletic presence. Linebacker 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:31.560 Jordan McGee out of Temple. Probably a more narrow running 0:07:31.600 --> 0:07:34.520 back or not running back linebacker, yeah, but has the 0:07:34.520 --> 0:07:37.400 instincts to play in that second level and be very productive. 0:07:37.720 --> 0:07:40.320 Linebacker Peyton Wilson out of North Carolina State. Shout out 0:07:40.320 --> 0:07:44.960 to my man brought us to the left. That's linebacker one, yeah, 0:07:45.000 --> 0:07:48.840 absolutely absolutely. And then running back Jonathan Brooks out of Texas. 0:07:49.520 --> 0:07:51.360 So those are the ones that were reported. 0:07:51.760 --> 0:07:52.480 About the list. 0:07:53.480 --> 0:07:55.880 The linebacker, linebacker, linebacker, linebacker, linebacker. 0:07:55.880 --> 0:07:57.760 You think they're hunting linebackers. 0:07:57.280 --> 0:08:00.240 A lot of linebackers. And then also this morning, out 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:03.400 to Ryan Fowler out of Bleacher Report reported Matt Goncalvis 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:06.600 from Pittsburgh the offensive tackle. He will be a thirty 0:08:06.720 --> 0:08:08.640 visit as well. He was a Shrine Bowl guy. He's 0:08:08.640 --> 0:08:10.480 been battling a toe injury. He only played in three 0:08:10.520 --> 0:08:12.600 games as a senior, but had he played his whole 0:08:12.600 --> 0:08:14.240 senior season, I think we'd be talking about him as 0:08:14.280 --> 0:08:16.840 a Day two type guy. So he's he's probably a 0:08:16.960 --> 0:08:19.240 high risk, high reward from a medical standpoint as well. 0:08:19.280 --> 0:08:21.040 So you know, the Cowboys, even in those later rounds, 0:08:21.040 --> 0:08:22.960 we're looking at those high risk, YGH reward medical guys. 0:08:22.960 --> 0:08:25.440 But here are the names we're gonna drop here. I'm 0:08:25.480 --> 0:08:27.440 gonna go ahead and give you five and then we'll 0:08:27.440 --> 0:08:29.240 have a more complete list later in the day. Be 0:08:29.280 --> 0:08:31.440 sure to check out with Dallas Cowboys dot com. We'll 0:08:31.480 --> 0:08:34.680 start with the offensive tackle, Talisi Fluaga out of Oregon State. 0:08:36.000 --> 0:08:38.520 It depends on who you talk to. Top two tackle 0:08:38.520 --> 0:08:41.360 in the class might not be too Him and Joe 0:08:41.400 --> 0:08:43.839 Alt have been, you know, kind of right there together. 0:08:43.920 --> 0:08:45.680 I think over the course of the last few weeks, 0:08:45.760 --> 0:08:48.160 especially since the Senior Bowl and Fuagga was able to 0:08:48.160 --> 0:08:50.959 put some things together there. Running back Bucky Irving out 0:08:50.960 --> 0:08:53.000 of Oregon I've talked about him a lot. I think 0:08:53.000 --> 0:08:54.240 he's a guy that can do a lot of things 0:08:54.240 --> 0:08:55.680 in the receiving game, do a lot of things in 0:08:55.679 --> 0:08:58.480 the run game. Probably didn't have the best combine in 0:08:58.520 --> 0:09:01.920 the world, but he he's He's definitely a Day two 0:09:02.040 --> 0:09:05.120 type of talent. Trey Benson out of Florida State, running back. 0:09:05.520 --> 0:09:08.280 We've talked about him a lot. Arguably the most complete 0:09:08.360 --> 0:09:11.439 back in the draft, and he will be. He will 0:09:11.480 --> 0:09:13.360 be in attendance nine hundred yards each of his last 0:09:13.360 --> 0:09:17.439 two seasons. And we'll round up here with two sinners, 0:09:17.720 --> 0:09:20.960 Jackson Powers Johnson out of Oregon and Graham Barton out of. 0:09:21.000 --> 0:09:23.240 Duke play together. 0:09:23.640 --> 0:09:31.960 Everybody onboard the Grand Barton train. Yeah, boys, let's go. 0:09:33.200 --> 0:09:35.560 Can I be vice president? Absolutely, let's go. 0:09:36.040 --> 0:09:40.040 All right, So a really good, really good, a really 0:09:40.040 --> 0:09:44.000 good list that is coming together. We probably won't be 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:45.640 able to share the whole list at any point because 0:09:46.280 --> 0:09:47.640 you know, we'll be able to talk more on a 0:09:47.720 --> 0:09:50.479 post draft. I mean, there's a reason for those things, unfortunately, 0:09:50.520 --> 0:09:54.360 but we are we are here to talk about these 0:09:54.360 --> 0:09:56.080 guys and the guys that are coming through this week. 0:09:56.160 --> 0:09:57.760 I think it's gonna be a really interesting process. 0:09:58.000 --> 0:09:58.520 Yeah, for sure. 0:09:58.600 --> 0:10:00.800 So run through those last five names. The one that 0:10:00.840 --> 0:10:02.040 you just talked through. 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:05.480 So that way we have it all because it was 0:10:05.559 --> 0:10:10.560 Nathaniel Wilson, Edrin Cooper, Travan Wallace, Jordan McGee, Peyton Wilson, 0:10:10.600 --> 0:10:11.240 Jonathan Brooks. 0:10:11.240 --> 0:10:13.640 That was the first list. All of those have been reported. 0:10:13.679 --> 0:10:16.439 These are the new reports for guys that are coming 0:10:16.480 --> 0:10:16.960 in this week. 0:10:17.040 --> 0:10:21.480 Yeah, Matt Goncalves was also one that was correct reported 0:10:21.480 --> 0:10:24.600 this morning. But the ones that we're dropping here Telisi 0:10:24.640 --> 0:10:27.160 for Wog out of Oregon State running back, Bucky Irving 0:10:27.160 --> 0:10:29.680 out of Oregon, Tray Benson Florida State running back, Jackson 0:10:29.679 --> 0:10:33.960 Powers Johnson Oregon Center, and Graham Barton Duke Offensive Lineman 0:10:34.160 --> 0:10:35.120 in my opinion center. 0:10:35.160 --> 0:10:39.160 But any of those interest you, Aisha, whenever you hear 0:10:39.200 --> 0:10:40.320 those names coming. 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:40.640 Off the board. 0:10:40.800 --> 0:10:43.040 I mean, no, I think what interests me the most 0:10:43.120 --> 0:10:43.319 of you. 0:10:43.559 --> 0:10:45.640 We've talked about all these humans, But I think what 0:10:45.800 --> 0:10:48.600 interests me the most is the variety that's there is 0:10:48.640 --> 0:10:51.960 that we've talked about how we believe that maybe this 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:54.800 draft will fall. It looks like maybe they feel like 0:10:55.200 --> 0:10:56.640 I mean, obviously they're doing it because they have the 0:10:56.679 --> 0:10:59.200 team bill, but also two, I think it's healthy for 0:10:59.240 --> 0:11:01.280 them to get a look at all these different positions 0:11:01.320 --> 0:11:04.120 and different guys because we think this board might fall 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:06.240 in their favor in a lot of ways, because it's 0:11:06.280 --> 0:11:09.280 so tackle heavy, because the wide receiver class is so 0:11:09.360 --> 0:11:12.280 high that some of these stars that we look at 0:11:12.360 --> 0:11:13.840 might be there. We all got a lot of first 0:11:13.880 --> 0:11:16.199 round grade. So I think they're doing the right thing 0:11:16.240 --> 0:11:17.440 by checking everybody out. 0:11:18.080 --> 0:11:18.800 What do you think, Brian? 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:21.480 Yeah, I think I actually hit right on the on 0:11:21.520 --> 0:11:24.880 the head there. You know, we've talked about the thing 0:11:24.920 --> 0:11:28.199 with the linebackers. It's it's obvious there that they're going 0:11:28.240 --> 0:11:30.200 to try and figure some things out with that crew. 0:11:30.280 --> 0:11:33.280 Maybe sort that out. We'll see how the things work 0:11:33.360 --> 0:11:37.000 with Wilson Cooper, Cooper the healthier of the two players, 0:11:38.520 --> 0:11:42.960 Powers Johnson Barton the sinners. Okay, I think that with 0:11:43.120 --> 0:11:47.679 Powers Johnson, now it's about people understand there's some medical 0:11:47.720 --> 0:11:51.000 concerns with him that we are going to learn about. 0:11:51.600 --> 0:11:54.120 Is it enough to keep him from getting drafted? I 0:11:54.160 --> 0:11:56.520 think some people maybe thought him as initially as the 0:11:56.600 --> 0:11:58.680 high guy. I think we're starting to see that maybe 0:11:58.720 --> 0:12:03.120 Barton on some people's boards, is taking over at center 0:12:03.600 --> 0:12:07.280 number one just for some Now, Barton has his share 0:12:07.320 --> 0:12:09.120 of stuff that he I talked to a guy at 0:12:09.120 --> 0:12:12.280 the Duke Pro day. He's dealing with the shoulder injury 0:12:12.320 --> 0:12:14.960 that he had. He wasn't able to do any punch 0:12:15.360 --> 0:12:17.920 or any bench press, you know. So there's some things 0:12:18.000 --> 0:12:23.560 you're working through there. But it's an interesting group that 0:12:23.559 --> 0:12:26.720 they're hunting right here. But it's at the positions that 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:29.520 we kind of feel like that's where they're going to 0:12:29.600 --> 0:12:33.280 need to go. Offensive tackle. When you talked talking about 0:12:33.360 --> 0:12:36.840 running back and then also the linebacker, all these things 0:12:36.880 --> 0:12:41.080 that we've talked about basically since January are starting to 0:12:41.200 --> 0:12:45.640 kind of materialize as we work closer to this draft. 0:12:45.840 --> 0:12:48.600 It's no surprise and it's no coincidence that all of 0:12:48.640 --> 0:12:51.360 these names at some shape, fashion and form we've talked 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:54.000 about along the way. Yeah, because these are the guys 0:12:54.040 --> 0:12:57.000 that fit the bill from what the Cowboys are looking for, 0:12:57.040 --> 0:12:58.560 and we're starting to see that more and more as 0:12:58.559 --> 0:12:59.200 the week goes on. 0:12:59.320 --> 0:13:02.120 Yeah, I was a I wanted to comment on Nick 0:13:02.160 --> 0:13:05.600 when you mentioned about Talise Fuaga where he and Joalt 0:13:05.600 --> 0:13:08.040 are kind of neck and neck right now. I think 0:13:08.080 --> 0:13:11.440 it's interesting because Joald ain't did nothing but did well 0:13:11.520 --> 0:13:14.480 this whole process. But it's it's kind of to me 0:13:14.559 --> 0:13:18.280 a testament of his consistency where it's almost it's not 0:13:18.520 --> 0:13:22.280 he's not not Yeah, it's not. He's not boring at all, 0:13:22.440 --> 0:13:24.640 but he just does the job, just comes out and 0:13:24.679 --> 0:13:28.080 does things. Fuaga, I think is I think his temperament 0:13:28.160 --> 0:13:29.959 is just a little bit of more of that nasty. 0:13:30.040 --> 0:13:33.240 But I just think that's interesting how he just doing 0:13:33.280 --> 0:13:33.640 his job. 0:13:33.720 --> 0:13:35.760 Joe just been here, just doing his job. And then 0:13:35.800 --> 0:13:38.480 people are like, I don't know, it's Flaga passing him. 0:13:38.480 --> 0:13:41.480 I'm like, he's just been consistent, that's all. 0:13:41.800 --> 0:13:45.000 And we've talked about the Zackie, we're talking about it 0:13:45.040 --> 0:13:48.360 as a whole. Getting to know these prospects as people 0:13:48.800 --> 0:13:51.040 and as human beings. I've heard nothing but great things 0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:53.480 about Talisi Fuaga and what he brings. He's got a 0:13:53.480 --> 0:13:56.679 great personality. You can see it both on camera and 0:13:56.840 --> 0:13:59.440 I mean with his teammates through the Senior Bowl process 0:13:59.520 --> 0:14:00.640 and on even on film. 0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:04.360 You can see him visibly in the mix, and I 0:14:04.440 --> 0:14:05.920 like that from a player over Yeah. 0:14:05.760 --> 0:14:08.200 I mean, you talk about who's the best run blocker 0:14:08.440 --> 0:14:11.360 along these tackles, it might be Waga. For me, it 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:14.160 probably is. I mean, you see the athleticism there. When 0:14:14.160 --> 0:14:16.360 I first was studying him, I was wondering, Okay, will 0:14:16.400 --> 0:14:19.080 teams view him kind of like JC Latham, Where is 0:14:19.120 --> 0:14:21.200 he a right side only kind of guy or do 0:14:21.240 --> 0:14:23.080 they think he could kick over to the left side. 0:14:23.160 --> 0:14:25.760 I think he does have athletic ability. Some teams might 0:14:25.840 --> 0:14:27.680 even think, okay, I could put him inside it guard 0:14:28.080 --> 0:14:30.160 even and he can be dominant. But I think the 0:14:30.200 --> 0:14:33.120 big difference for me when you watch Fuluaga is kind 0:14:33.120 --> 0:14:35.880 of the play temperament. He is nasty, He's got that 0:14:35.920 --> 0:14:39.840 finishing ability. Absolutely, to me, he was a really really 0:14:39.920 --> 0:14:41.880 fun study, especially when you got to watch him against 0:14:41.920 --> 0:14:45.920 some guys like Lightulatto from UCLA. So for Wagga, it's 0:14:45.960 --> 0:14:48.760 not a surprise that he's debated as maybe the top 0:14:48.800 --> 0:14:49.720 tackle in the draft. 0:14:49.840 --> 0:14:52.480 Yeah, intelligence is really there with Foluagga as well. That 0:14:52.520 --> 0:14:53.880 was something that stood out to me from talking to 0:14:53.880 --> 0:14:56.240 people at the Senior Bowl. And he was a guy 0:14:56.240 --> 0:14:58.480 that met with You met with the Cowboys at the 0:14:58.480 --> 0:15:01.840 Combine formally, and we'll be right back here for thirty visits. 0:15:01.840 --> 0:15:05.120 So that's quite fascinating. Trade Benson as well. 0:15:05.200 --> 0:15:08.360 I've I've got a ton of notes on him and 0:15:08.440 --> 0:15:12.360 I don't have one negative comment on him, and I usually, 0:15:12.560 --> 0:15:15.120 you know, usually you could find some type of hole. 0:15:15.240 --> 0:15:17.520 A guy carries his hands too low, maybe he's a 0:15:17.560 --> 0:15:21.680 little late, maybe a little sloppy with the footwork. I 0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:24.680 see what Dallas is doing by bringing him in. I 0:15:24.680 --> 0:15:26.480 don't think there's any way, And Helly gets to you, 0:15:26.680 --> 0:15:29.000 I don't either. I mean, I just feel like that, 0:15:29.120 --> 0:15:31.600 you know, to me, we were all kind of talking 0:15:31.600 --> 0:15:33.840 about and I issue was bringing it up where you know, 0:15:33.960 --> 0:15:36.240 Alt seems to be a guy that everybody you know, 0:15:36.440 --> 0:15:40.120 very consistent the way he plays, but Fuaka has been 0:15:40.600 --> 0:15:43.520 unless the Jets are thinking about doing something crazy at 0:15:43.520 --> 0:15:46.240 ten and getting out of there, that's kind of where 0:15:46.760 --> 0:15:49.200 That's where I felt like that for that he was 0:15:49.240 --> 0:15:52.520 going to be. That's somebody like it. But now you're 0:15:52.520 --> 0:15:55.560 hearing whispers. If I'm the Jets and I've got a 0:15:55.600 --> 0:15:59.640 veteran quarterback that I need to keep upright, why not 0:15:59.720 --> 0:16:02.360 draft this guy. I understand he went and got you know, 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:05.200 Tyrone Smith and all that, and but man, this guy 0:16:05.320 --> 0:16:08.960 is a player, and so in my mind I don't 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:11.120 even have him. It would be a gift from the 0:16:11.240 --> 0:16:14.480 draft gods. Ye Lamb esque type yeah. 0:16:14.280 --> 0:16:17.200 And somehow maybe bigger. Yeah, somehow if. 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:20.120 You're sitting there and he's on that board, I mean, 0:16:20.160 --> 0:16:22.360 this would be the quickest I would ever hand in 0:16:22.440 --> 0:16:26.160 a card. And you know, trust me, in nineteen ninety 0:16:26.200 --> 0:16:27.960 eight when he did the draft, we were the quickest 0:16:28.000 --> 0:16:31.840 handing in our card. So you know, I, I just 0:16:31.920 --> 0:16:34.720 don't know like these tackles. I like what Dallas is 0:16:34.760 --> 0:16:37.240 trying to do. To me, that's a trade up? Is 0:16:37.320 --> 0:16:40.880 probably that's that's a trade up, right if you're looking at. 0:16:40.840 --> 0:16:43.520 If you're speaking this highly of a prospect and you're 0:16:43.560 --> 0:16:45.680 handing in that card so fast like that. 0:16:45.880 --> 0:16:47.160 Yeah, is there. 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:49.560 Anyway I know you don't have a ton of draft capital, 0:16:49.640 --> 0:16:51.360 you don't have a ton of capital overall. 0:16:51.960 --> 0:16:52.840 Yeah, to move up? 0:16:53.000 --> 0:16:54.480 Is there an I give you a player? 0:16:55.960 --> 0:16:56.240 Sure? 0:16:56.360 --> 0:16:58.240 I mean that's what I'm saying. I mean to me, 0:16:58.480 --> 0:17:01.680 I this team, We've talked about it a bunch, and 0:17:01.760 --> 0:17:04.440 I think we've gone the right path. They they lost 0:17:04.480 --> 0:17:08.359 I issues pointed out they've lost so much depth, you know, 0:17:08.480 --> 0:17:12.000 and we're talking about how to move back and get 0:17:12.040 --> 0:17:14.720 an extra third or fourth round pick going into this 0:17:15.160 --> 0:17:19.280 into this draft. So to me, uh, for waa hey, 0:17:19.359 --> 0:17:21.640 I applaud them for wanting to see potentially the best 0:17:21.680 --> 0:17:24.680 tackle in the draft. I don't know how you're gonna 0:17:24.680 --> 0:17:27.239 do it unless you've got a plan to dance that 0:17:27.320 --> 0:17:27.800 thing up. 0:17:28.240 --> 0:17:31.720 I ain't got no faith. No y'all can get excited 0:17:31.720 --> 0:17:32.320 for no reason. 0:17:32.359 --> 0:17:35.080 No aggressive I. 0:17:34.440 --> 0:17:37.359 Heck, no, you ain't even got no we need some coupons. 0:17:37.560 --> 0:17:40.960 We got no money to bet on something we I don't. 0:17:41.080 --> 0:17:44.119 I mean, Brian just brought up the depth like that's 0:17:44.200 --> 0:17:45.880 what scares me about what's going on? 0:17:46.080 --> 0:17:48.840 You're eighty seventh or overall pick? Is now worth the 0:17:49.000 --> 0:17:52.920 sixty your picks? 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:57.040 Yeah, future pick it is. I'll tell you. I'll tell 0:17:57.040 --> 0:17:59.040 you where I I'll tell you I issue where they're 0:17:59.200 --> 0:18:02.360 where they're gonna they're going to fill out your depth is. 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:05.320 They're one of the most aggressive teams when it comes 0:18:05.359 --> 0:18:12.440 to post draft. Jerry Jones, Stephen Jones will spend top dollar. 0:18:12.760 --> 0:18:15.720 They might not spend top dollar during free agency, but 0:18:15.840 --> 0:18:17.720 you let them do you let them have some draft 0:18:17.720 --> 0:18:20.440 picks still on that board. When they when this thing all, 0:18:20.880 --> 0:18:22.760