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Speaker 2: Star and Frisco.

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Speaker 3: Today is Tuesday, April second, twenty twenty four. It's officially

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Speaker 3: Draft month and we are twenty three days away from

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Speaker 3: the NFL Draft in Detroit, Michigan.

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Speaker 3: depend on. We've got Ayisha Morrison, Brian brought us, Nick Harris,

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Speaker 3: Zach Walchuk, I'm Kyle Yeomans with Chris Beam running everything

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 3: We're within twenty three days. Pro days concluded, including Big

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Speaker 3: twelve Protey across the way this past weekend. Got to

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Speaker 3: see some fun aspects over there. We've got thirty visits

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Speaker 3: happening this week. There's a lot going on around the building.

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Speaker 5: Nick Harris, Yeah, absolutely, thirty visits are starting tomorrow as

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Speaker 5: we're talking. That'll be on April third. They'll go through Friday,

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Speaker 5: and basically what will happen is these guys will come

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Speaker 5: into the building and go through a car wash style,

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Speaker 5: you know, meeting with the team. They'll meet with coach

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Speaker 5: McCarthy and Jerry Jones, They'll meet with a scouting department,

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Speaker 5: they'll meet with the position coaches. They'll meet with medicals,

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Speaker 5: they'll meet with a security team, they'll meet with even the.

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Speaker 6: Media a little bit.

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Speaker 5: There's there's a lot that these guys will do within

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Speaker 5: a span of you know, four to five hours and

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Speaker 5: then right back on their flight back home. So's it's

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Speaker 5: an opportunity for the Cowboys to be able to sit

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Speaker 5: down in front of these guys, get an opportunity to

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Speaker 5: know them a little bit better on a personal level.

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Speaker 6: Also be able to talk some ball with them a

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Speaker 5: You know, at the combine, you can meet with these

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Speaker 5: guys for fifteen minutes, you know something, sometimes you can

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Speaker 5: try to stretch that to twenty, so you can't really

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Speaker 5: talk a whole lot in those twenty minutes, but you

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Speaker 5: get them, you know, out of their natural element, get

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Speaker 5: them in, get them in the building, see how they

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Speaker 5: operate around other prospects as well. They do a big

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Speaker 5: meeting beforehand with all the guys and that kind of

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Speaker 5: gives them an opportunity to see what they do, you know,

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Speaker 5: in a in a big group setting. So there's a

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Speaker 5: lot that they can take out of these thirty visits.

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Speaker 5: And it sounds like we'll have some names to drop

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Speaker 5: here in a minute as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna have some names for you for the

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Speaker 2: first time.

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Speaker 3: And there's a there's a long list of guys, Brian

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Speaker 3: that have been on this Dallas Cowboys team and have

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Speaker 3: been thirty visits. That's why you got to pay attention

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Speaker 3: to these visits because it's a.

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Speaker 4: Pretty good indication.

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Speaker 3: It's a pretty good roadmap of what Dallas is thinking

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Speaker 3: going in the draft weekend.

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Speaker 4: Oh, you're absolutely right. That Dallas Day which they had

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Speaker 4: yesterday is something that is very important to the scouting

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Speaker 4: process and Nick did a great job of explaining exactly

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Speaker 4: and it's it's really the first opportunity too for Jerry

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Speaker 4: with these prospects. He's he's seen the players from maybe

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Speaker 4: he's watched some tape, but to sit down and get

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Speaker 4: we liked this kid. We brought him in. He handled

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Speaker 4: kind of get impressed by that. I remember a time

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Speaker 7: Not surprising that a Navy man was craving taco bell.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but that the first thing. That's the first thing

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Speaker 4: and Bob ate his tacos full dress whites, and then

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Speaker 3: I love that story for two reasons. One because it's

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Speaker 3: the ultimate sign of respect for him to show up

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Speaker 2: Things and try and read in between the lines.

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Speaker 3: And I think last year showed you Man's Mazzi Smith

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Speaker 3: They were the ones that were on the board going

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Speaker 3: They ultimately ended up with Mazzie Smith probably, and I

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Speaker 8: But you get to kind of get a feel for

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Speaker 4: You know, what are some of the little things.

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Speaker 8: That Okay, I can get a feel for this guy

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Speaker 8: here's a guy in the fourth that I think we'd

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, and then we already know what this team.

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Speaker 7: I don't have a whole bunch to say about it because

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Speaker 9: This team is a what is the word I'm looking for? Connective.

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Speaker 7: They we know that they can hinge on to you know,

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Speaker 7: thirty day visits and also Dallas Day are going to

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Speaker 7: So all of this is important to the process.

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Speaker 3: And it's still very early in the thirty visits. We

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so I'll we'll have a little bit more names

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Speaker 5: sure and check into that. These are the names that

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Speaker 6: We'll start with those.

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Speaker 5: Linebacker Nathaniel Watson out Mississippi State SEC Linebacker of the

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Speaker 5: Edrian Cooper out of Texas A and M. We've talked

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Speaker 5: out to Nicole Hudgeson for breaking that one about a

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Speaker 5: Jordan McGee out of Temple. Probably a more narrow running

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Speaker 5: Linebacker Peyton Wilson out of North Carolina State. Shout out

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Speaker 5: to my man brought us to the left. That's linebacker one, yeah,

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Speaker 5: absolutely absolutely. And then running back Jonathan Brooks out of Texas.

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Speaker 5: So those are the ones that were reported.

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Speaker 4: About the list.

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Speaker 2: The linebacker, linebacker, linebacker, linebacker, linebacker.

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Speaker 4: You think they're hunting linebackers.

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Speaker 5: A lot of linebackers. And then also this morning, out

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Speaker 5: to Ryan Fowler out of Bleacher Report reported Matt Goncalvis

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Speaker 5: we're looking at those high risk, YGH reward medical guys.

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Speaker 5: start with the offensive tackle, Talisi Fluaga out of Oregon State.

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Speaker 5: It depends on who you talk to. Top two tackle

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Speaker 5: Alt have been, you know, kind of right there together.

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Speaker 5: put some things together there. Running back Bucky Irving out

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Speaker 5: the run game. Probably didn't have the best combine in

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Speaker 5: We've talked about him a lot. Arguably the most complete

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Speaker 5: two seasons. And we'll round up here with two sinners,

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Speaker 5: Jackson Powers Johnson out of Oregon and Graham Barton out of.

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Speaker 4: Duke play together.

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Speaker 2: Everybody onboard the Grand Barton train. Yeah, boys, let's go.

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Speaker 2: Can I be vice president? Absolutely, let's go.

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Speaker 5: All right, So a really good, really good, a really

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Speaker 5: I think it's gonna be a really interesting process.

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Speaker 2: So run through those last five names. The one that

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Speaker 3: So that way we have it all because it was

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Speaker 2: That was the first list. All of those have been reported.

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Speaker 3: These are the new reports for guys that are coming

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Matt Goncalves was also one that was correct reported

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Speaker 5: this morning. But the ones that we're dropping here Telisi

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Speaker 3: But any of those interest you, Aisha, whenever you hear

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Speaker 2: Off the board.

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Speaker 9: I mean, no, I think what interests me the most

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Speaker 7: We've talked about all these humans, But I think what

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Speaker 7: that we've talked about how we believe that maybe this

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Speaker 7: by checking everybody out.

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Speaker 2: What do you think, Brian?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I actually hit right on the on

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Speaker 4: with Wilson Cooper, Cooper the healthier of the two players,

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Speaker 4: Powers Johnson, now it's about people understand there's some medical

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Speaker 4: Is it enough to keep him from getting drafted? I

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Speaker 4: you're working through there. But it's an interesting group that

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Speaker 4: they're hunting right here. But it's at the positions that

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Speaker 4: need to go. Offensive tackle. When you talked talking about

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Speaker 4: running back and then also the linebacker, all these things

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Speaker 3: It's no surprise and it's no coincidence that all of

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I was a I wanted to comment on Nick

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Speaker 7: when you mentioned about Talise Fuaga where he and Joalt

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Speaker 7: it's interesting because Joald ain't did nothing but did well

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Speaker 7: he's not not Yeah, it's not. He's not boring at all,

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Speaker 7: but he just does the job, just comes out and

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Speaker 7: But I just think that's interesting how he just doing

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Speaker 9: Joe just been here, just doing his job. And then

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Speaker 9: I'm like, he's just been consistent, that's all.

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Speaker 3: And we've talked about the Zackie, we're talking about it

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Speaker 3: great personality. You can see it both on camera and

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Speaker 2: You can see him visibly in the mix, and I

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Speaker 8: I mean, you talk about who's the best run blocker

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Speaker 8: probably is. I mean, you see the athleticism there. When

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Speaker 8: I think he does have athletic ability. Some teams might

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Speaker 8: big difference for me when you watch Fuluaga is kind

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Speaker 8: finishing ability. Absolutely, to me, he was a really really

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Speaker 8: fun study, especially when you got to watch him against

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Speaker 8: some guys like Lightulatto from UCLA. So for Wagga, it's

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Speaker 5: Yeah, intelligence is really there with Foluagga as well. That

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Speaker 6: So that's quite fascinating. Trade Benson as well.

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Speaker 4: I've I've got a ton of notes on him and

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Speaker 4: I don't have one negative comment on him, and I usually,

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Speaker 4: A guy carries his hands too low, maybe he's a

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Speaker 4: Alt seems to be a guy that everybody you know,

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Speaker 4: unless the Jets are thinking about doing something crazy at

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Speaker 4: That's where I felt like that for that he was

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Speaker 4: hearing whispers. If I'm the Jets and I've got a

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Speaker 4: draft this guy. I understand he went and got you know,

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Speaker 4: Tyrone Smith and all that, and but man, this guy

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Speaker 4: even have him. It would be a gift from the

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Speaker 4: draft gods. Ye Lamb esque type yeah.

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Speaker 2: And somehow maybe bigger. Yeah, somehow if.

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Speaker 4: You're sitting there and he's on that board, I mean,

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Speaker 4: this would be the quickest I would ever hand in

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Speaker 4: a card. And you know, trust me, in nineteen ninety

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Speaker 4: handing in our card. So you know, I, I just

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Speaker 4: don't know like these tackles. I like what Dallas is

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Speaker 4: trying to do. To me, that's a trade up? Is

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Speaker 4: probably that's that's a trade up, right if you're looking at.

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Speaker 3: If you're speaking this highly of a prospect and you're

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Speaker 4: Yeah, is there.

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Speaker 3: Anyway I know you don't have a ton of draft capital,

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Speaker 3: you don't have a ton of capital overall.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, to move up?

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Speaker 4: Is there an I give you a player?

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Speaker 3: Sure?

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Speaker 4: I mean that's what I'm saying. I mean to me,

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Speaker 4: I issues pointed out they've lost so much depth, you know,

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Speaker 4: I applaud them for wanting to see potentially the best

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Speaker 4: do it unless you've got a plan to dance that

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Speaker 9: I ain't got no faith. No y'all can get excited

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Speaker 9: for no reason.

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Speaker 2: No aggressive I.

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Speaker 7: Heck, no, you ain't even got no we need some coupons.

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Speaker 9: We got no money to bet on something we I don't.

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Speaker 7: I mean, Brian just brought up the depth like that's

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Speaker 7: what scares me about what's going on?

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Speaker 2: You're eighty seventh or overall pick? Is now worth the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, future pick it is. I'll tell you. I'll tell

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Speaker 4: you where I I'll tell you I issue where they're

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Speaker 4: They're one of the most aggressive teams when it comes

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Speaker 4: to post draft. Jerry Jones, Stephen Jones will spend top dollar.

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Speaker 4: They might not spend top dollar during free agency, but

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Speaker 4: you let them do you let them have some draft

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Speaker 4: when they will put a bow on it and and

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Speaker 4: we all say good night for the draft, they will,

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Speaker 4: they will, they will be so aggressive signing those players,

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Speaker 4: and I think that's where to your point, you know,

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Speaker 4: I shouldn't. Everybody's going to say, well, who do you

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Speaker 4: have left on your board? And that final pick will

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Speaker 4: guarantee you whoever's left on your board it's left on

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Speaker 4: their board too, and they are going to hunt that.

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Speaker 3: Last year, have told us this guy needs to be drafted.

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Speaker 3: He was somebody last year.

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Speaker 4: I mean that was ridiculous.

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Speaker 5: He was short of all undrafted free agents that signed

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Speaker 6: Number three was t J.

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Speaker 9: There you go.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they're not afraid. They're not afraid to if they

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Speaker 4: they're gonna hunt that. Yeah. I think Marky's belly before too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that was a big one too.

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Speaker 3: I know that's not what fans want to hear, is

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Speaker 5: Should Terrence Steele one, Thomas Martins.

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Speaker 3: Completely agreed finding legitimate talent at that point along the way.

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Speaker 2: But right now all of fans want to hear is

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Speaker 3: If they can't hit on these all that depth you're

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Speaker 10: Let's go.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to sell you hope.

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Speaker 2: They are you trying to trade your whole draft?

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Speaker 11: Right?

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Speaker 4: Seriously, it's usually you you have some Baby Williams negative

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Speaker 4: This kid doesn't have that. Yeah, he really doesn't.

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Speaker 3: He's a phenomenal proSP but there's some names to look at.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go, Thank you very much. That's actually

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Speaker 2: Chris Beam that recorded that in the back. That's exactly

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Speaker 2: what that was. Isaiah stand back. Actually, really, that's actually Isaiah.

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Speaker 9: He did it.

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Speaker 7: They did it on our show last week, and I

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Speaker 7: thought it was Chris at first too.

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Speaker 9: I was I don't know your boys.

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Speaker 7: Could do that, Chris, and he was like, no, it's

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Speaker 3: That's very Isaiah wore a cowboy hat one time into

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Speaker 2: So that's what we've got. That's what happens.

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Speaker 3: I gotta stay on your toes, all right, it's time

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Speaker 3: now for some Twitter onwenty. This kind of this kind

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Speaker 3: of goes along with our last conversation. Kenny in Frisco

518
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Speaker 3: asked which prospect graded rounds fit five through six or

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Speaker 3: ud FA do you think it have the most long

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Speaker 3: term impact with any NFL team? Just talking about draft

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Speaker 3: sleepers in general, Jesus.

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Speaker 6: Said, session round six, seven, five.

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Speaker 2: Or later five or later five or later ud F

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Speaker 2: A back of the.

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Speaker 3: Draft that you feel like is a developmental prospect that

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Speaker 3: has the most long term impact. I know that's a

527
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Speaker 3: tough question, but I feel like there's some in every draft.

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Speaker 4: Right Where do you have is it mcclatchen, the tight

529
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Speaker 4: end from Arizona.

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Speaker 6: McLachlan, McLachlan, malachlan, McLachlan.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Tanner McLachlan, I have him a fourth on him?

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Speaker 6: Okay, how about the speed game?

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Speaker 4: How about how about then? Uh I'll tell you a

534
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Speaker 4: guy that I liked, uh was Bubb.

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Speaker 6: Memes, Pittsburgh to wide receiver.

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Speaker 2: That's a good one.

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Speaker 4: I kind of felt like that he was a good guy,

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Speaker 4: uh to to to take a to take a look

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Speaker 4: at as far as because I feel like there's some

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Speaker 4: some to his game. There's all these wide receivers, man

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Speaker 4: I mean you could, you could throw a blanket on

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Speaker 4: these guys, you really could. And and then and because

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Speaker 4: they've all got different type of skill sets to how

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Speaker 4: they play. But with the thing with Memes, I was

545
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Speaker 4: impressed with him just because let me get to my

546
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Speaker 4: notes here, because I his path as a college player.

547
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Speaker 4: He was a defensive back at Tennessee. He went to

548
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Speaker 4: Louisiana Tech. He's a receiver. He's now Pittsburgh. He's one

549
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Speaker 4: of the best when it in the in the A

550
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Speaker 4: SEC when he came to contested catches. So here's a

551
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Speaker 4: guy six to one, two and twelve pounds contested catch guy.

552
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Speaker 4: You know, routes all over the field, upper body strength, power,

553
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Speaker 4: getting off the line, run through the defenders with the ball,

554
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Speaker 4: I mean, make people miss in the open field. I

555
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Speaker 4: think that if you work with him as a route runner,

556
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Speaker 4: there's a He's got a natural feel for way he

557
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Speaker 4: plays a game. I could see him being a guy

558
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Speaker 4: that might have his best football ahead of him. And

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Speaker 4: I got him there in the fifth round. And I'm

560
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Speaker 4: probably too low on him to be honest with you.

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Speaker 5: What you got, Yeah, I'm going through a couple of

562
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Speaker 5: names here. There's there's some interesting ones. We've mentioned Quantest

563
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Speaker 5: Stiggers on this show quite a bit. He's he's gonna

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Speaker 5: get drafted.

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Speaker 2: I think.

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Speaker 9: He's absolutely going to get drafted.

567
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Speaker 6: We were we were talking about him.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna be cool on day three.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it will be awesome.

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Speaker 4: I think he's going to be a heck of a player.

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Speaker 5: And in fact, here in the Star Draft magazine there

572
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Speaker 5: is a feature story on Quantest Siggers from you. But

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Speaker 5: he's He's one that I think will be there on

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Speaker 5: day three. That will be a really good, really good

575
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Speaker 5: developmental project for it for a team. I've talked about

576
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Speaker 5: Jordan Winnington I think a couple of times on this show.

577
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Speaker 5: Depending on who you talk to, you can see anywhere

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Speaker 5: from a fifth round to U d F a priority

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Speaker 5: U d F A grade on him.

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Speaker 6: Receiver at Texas, former.

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Speaker 5: Five star prospect at a Cuero high school one state

582
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Speaker 5: championship with the Gobblers. But he's physical, he has long speed.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 5: I think at the very least he could be a

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Speaker 5: special teams demon at the next level. But they brought

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Speaker 5: him in to be a wide receiver one. He got

587
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Speaker 5: hurt his first three years that he was at Texas.

588
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Speaker 5: Eventually they had to recruit around him and bring in

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Speaker 5: some more reliable bodies. That's where he saw the Xavier

590
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Speaker 5: Worthies and the Ady Mitchells pop up and Jatavian Sanders

591
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Speaker 5: out of the world, and so he kind of took

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Speaker 5: a step back on this this team this past season.

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Speaker 5: But I think if you give him that a wide

594
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Speaker 5: receiver three type role, I think in the NFL, I

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Speaker 5: think he has the potential to be able to do

596
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Speaker 5: that a couple of years into the league. High instincts,

597
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Speaker 5: high character guy. Everyone in the locker room loves the guy.

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Speaker 5: I think he's I think he's someone to keep an

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Speaker 5: eye on there.

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Speaker 3: On day three, where do you guys have Isaiah Adams,

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Speaker 3: offensive tackle out of Illinois, fourth round, fourth round grade. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think I had him in the fifth so I

603
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Speaker 3: didn't know if I was high on him.

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Speaker 4: That's around the area.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, But I think you're you're talking about a guy

606
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Speaker 3: who isn't going to test out of the gym. He's

607
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Speaker 3: not going to be super athletic whenever it comes to

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Speaker 3: the numbers. But on tape he plays with such good visions.

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Speaker 2: Such fundamentals.

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Speaker 3: He's got great footwork all the way through, good anchor uh,

611
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Speaker 3: lateral ability helps him whenever he's pulling as a.

612
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Speaker 2: Guard kick slides as a tackle.

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Speaker 3: He played both at Illinois, So I think that's one

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Speaker 3: that could be a late round guy. I had him

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Speaker 3: in the fifth, so it falls into this category.

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Speaker 2: But if you've got him in the fourth, I wouldn't

617
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Speaker 2: necessarily blink an eye.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I've been pretty high on this gentleman for a while

620
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Speaker 7: because he was just a fun watch. Jakwan Jackson, wide

621
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Speaker 7: receiver out of two lane lovey. I. I think he's

622
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Speaker 7: gonna fall, obviously because of the size, but then this

623
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Speaker 7: obviously this is wide receiver class is just crazy. But

624
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Speaker 7: when you look at some of the changes that are

625
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Speaker 7: even coming to special teams you talk about return ability,

626
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Speaker 7: this might be one of the more dynamic returners in

627
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Speaker 7: the in this draft as well.

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Speaker 9: It's he's Very's nephew.

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Speaker 7: I know that has nothing to do with nothing but

630
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Speaker 7: formally speedy, super speedy. He displays really good burst out

631
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Speaker 7: of his releases. He has an ability to read defenders

632
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Speaker 7: and and he can manipulate how they mirror as well.

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Speaker 7: Yak of ability. He gets versele really quickly. He can

634
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Speaker 7: locate the ball and has good body control. To adjust

635
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Speaker 7: a lot of people because of his size. He's only

636
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Speaker 7: he's five eleven, one eighty five, so some people might

637
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Speaker 7: be worried about his durability.

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Speaker 9: He can get hit in.

639
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Speaker 7: The mouth and keep going like he's not He's not

640
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Speaker 7: afraid to give up his body and things like that.

641
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Speaker 7: So I do think with special teams kind of changing

642
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Speaker 7: and things like that, people seeing him as a returner,

643
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Speaker 7: he does have potential for sure as a receiver. He's

644
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Speaker 7: a gentleman that I could see somebody getting a hold

645
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Speaker 7: of in the fifth, sixth rounds something like that, and

646
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Speaker 7: being able to see him have some good plays in

647
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Speaker 7: this game.

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Speaker 4: Well you nailed this guy.

649
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Speaker 9: Yeah, he's good.

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Speaker 4: I tell you what. He has got some ability. She's

651
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 4: absolutely right. This guy can create on the move too.

652
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Speaker 4: You know when you throw him the football usually big

653
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Speaker 4: plays happen when he has the ball in his hands.

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Speaker 4: Good player.

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Speaker 6: Where do y'all have?

656
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Speaker 5: Marcellus Dial defensive back out of South Carolina. Have y'all

657
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Speaker 5: had an opportunity?

658
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Speaker 4: He's not a guy that I've watched yet.

659
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think he's a guy that is there late

660
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 5: on day three. He has versatility that you can put

661
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 5: in a corner nickel safety. He's on a lot of

662
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 5: things there. For the game, Cocks in the SEC was

663
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 5: productive as well. That's another name. Take a look at him.

664
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Speaker 5: Physical a really good Marcella's dial out of South Carolina.

665
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 4: I'll throw out two. I think I've got both of

666
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 4: them around the fifth.

667
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 8: Maybe you guys have him higher, but Ania Smith wide receiver,

668
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 8: Texas A and mt A fifth interesting you know five

669
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 8: nine to one ninety. Is he a slot only type

670
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 8: of guy? But sharp cuts, I mean, smooth route runner.

671
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 8: And you can see when you watched him play this year,

672
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 8: he definitely was not a benefit or benefactor of good

673
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 8: quarterback play. The quarterback play was wildly inaccurate when you

674
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 8: watched him. Every yeah, man, but he was open a

675
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 8: lot of the time. It just didn't get the football.

676
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 8: But he owns a thirty six game consecutive streak with

677
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 8: a reception. Fifth year senior from Missouri City in the

678
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 8: Houston area. I'm sure you know a lot about him

679
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 8: from the recruiting ties. There's a big time recruit coming

680
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 8: out of Missouri City. But can win on the outside.

681
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 8: I think plays a little smaller, but he's tough. I mean,

682
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 8: this is a dude who's not afraid to take a hit,

683
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 8: also has a punt returnability, special team's ability. And then

684
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 8: we were talking about him before during the break, but

685
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 8: Travis Glover the offensive talking from Georgia State. Yeah, six

686
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 8: six three twenty three. This dude's a maler. Started all

687
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 8: five years Georgia State, played some left guard, right tackle, primarily,

688
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 8: though at left tackle. They had one of the best

689
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 8: rushing attacks in school history during his time there, and

690
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,719
Speaker 8: he's a big reason why. In the run game, this

691
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 8: dude's a maler. I think he's got good lateral movement

692
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 8: for his size. Maybe he's a better guard for me

693
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,239
Speaker 8: when you move him to the next level. But he

694
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 8: can throw people around. He's got a violent punch, I

695
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 8: can get to the second level, powerful anchor. I think

696
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 8: he's a really intriguing traits type pick.

697
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, if you get a copy of the LSU game,

698
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 4: take a peek, because that's where he did some good

699
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 4: work against some big time competition.

700
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 6: There you go for Ben Dolas and Iah Smith.

701
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 4: There you go.

702
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 6: What grades you have on him coming out? Oh, it

703
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 6: was before I was doing great.

704
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 8: He was an exciting player in high school when he

705
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 8: really was all right.

706
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 3: This is an interesting one from Walker. He actually came

707
00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 3: up to me at the Legends game the other day.

708
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 3: He said he loves the show. He said, but I

709
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 3: want to submit a question.

710
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 6: Out to Walker.

711
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 3: I was like, it's called Twitter on the twenty, you

712
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 3: got to send me a Twitter message. So he sent

713
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 3: me a Twitter message. It's actually a really good question.

714
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 3: Besides quarterback, what position do you see a run on

715
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 3: in the first round that most benefits the Dallas Cowboys

716
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 3: sitting at twenty four corner?

717
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, yeah, corner.

718
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 5: I think if if these corners start flying off the board, Quinnon, Mitchell,

719
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 5: Terry On, Arnold, Nate Wiggins, I think you're going to

720
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 5: see those corner needy teams that are there in the

721
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 5: late twenties try to trade up and make sure that

722
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 5: they get their guy. I think if these corners start

723
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 5: flying off the board, it definitely helps. You could also

724
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 5: look at receivers. You know, if these receivers start coming

725
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 5: off the board as well. You know we've talked about

726
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 5: Marvin Harrison junior, Brian Thomas junior, Roma Dunze, but if

727
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 5: you start seeing the A. D Mitchell's or the Xavier

728
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 5: Worthy start going that that would be huge towards the

729
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 5: Cowboys being able to have their their right offensive lineman

730
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 5: fall to him at twenty four.

731
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 4: I'd love for some of these defensive tackles to go roll.

732
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Maybe with the Murphy Newton

733
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 4: and maybe it might happen ahead of you sweat Sweat Fisk,

734
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 4: Maybe somebody falls in love with Fisk. I know you

735
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 4: need a defensive tackle, but it's it's one of those

736
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 4: things where you probably have to look at it and say, well,

737
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 4: we're you know, they're gonna it's probably not gonna play

738
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 4: out the way they want. But you're right about the receivers.

739
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 4: When we did the mock draft the other day, Brian

740
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 4: Thomas was sitting there when we came to Dallas's turn

741
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 4: to pick. You know, so, if you can get all

742
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 4: those receivers to go, I just think that people are

743
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 4: going to look at those receivers and they're going to

744
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 4: look at the corners and they're going to say, you

745
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 4: know what, the guy that we're looking at in the

746
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 4: second round, we could probably get in the third round.

747
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 4: And the guy we can looking at in the third

748
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 4: round or third round, we could probably get in the

749
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 4: fourth round. So it's just got so much depth there

750
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 4: at those two spots wide receiver and corner for sure.

751
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're trying to get to Weasi Fluaga and we're

752
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 3: trying to get Graham Barton down the twenty four guys.

753
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 3: We've got to get all the defensive tackles, all the

754
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 3: wide receivers, all the corners up there.

755
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 4: Maybe a run on those edges, you know, to get

756
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 4: a run if all of a sudden, lot to turner first,

757
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 4: Chop Robinson maybe, yeah, maybe Robin Darius Robinson Miszoo Miszoo.

758
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, all right, Kyle asks, and it's not me,

759
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,760
Speaker 3: I promise. How likely is it that the Cowboys draft

760
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 3: tackle and center in the first three rounds?

761
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 2: And is that something that you would do if you

762
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 2: were drafting for the Cowboys going with a double dip

763
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 2: in offensive line but two separate positions.

764
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 5: I don't think I would necessarily do it, but it

765
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 5: wouldn't surprise me if that's what ends up happening. I

766
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 5: think there's interior depth that you can work with on

767
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 5: the offensive line. I think you need to go get

768
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:37,879
Speaker 5: a defensive tackle, you need to go get a running back.

769
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 5: So I struggle with being able to pull one of

770
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 5: those away for an extra offensive lineman.

771
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 8: I think it definitely could happen. I mean it's definitely.

772
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,240
Speaker 8: It's not it's not a must because of course with TJ.

773
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 8: Bass and Brockhoffman, and then with Tyler's miss flexibility. But

774
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 8: if you have the right tackle that slides to you,

775
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 8: then I think it is like correct tackle. Yeah, yes,

776
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 8: the correct tackle that slides to you. I think that

777
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 8: center is definitely a position. In the third round, you

778
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:02,799
Speaker 8: can find somebody that you feel really good about. Whether

779
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 8: it's bou Limmer from Arkansas, you know, one hundred, nors

780
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 8: Ad Penn states another name.

781
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:08,959
Speaker 4: Maybe some want him as a garden not a center,

782
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 4: but I loved his tape. I think a hunter.

783
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 8: Nordad's got some nasty discussion. Yeah, there's certainly some guys

784
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 8: in that third, fourth round. Matt Lee from Miami just

785
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 8: competes his rear off. I think they certainly could double

786
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 8: dip in that area. But it will depend on do

787
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 8: they take a tackle in the first Yeah. If they

788
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 8: don't and they go with Graham Barton or a center,

789
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 8: I don't know how likely it is to circle back

790
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:29,439
Speaker 8: and take it tackle then in the third.

791
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, what do you think aysha, just replenish the offensive

792
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 7: line in some way, shape or form.

793
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:36,760
Speaker 9: It's it's about that time.

794
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 7: I think they've kind of I mean I think it's

795
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:43,840
Speaker 7: I think for since Travis Frederick retired and all that

796
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 7: stuff started happening, they've been trying to figure out this

797
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 7: offensive line and have like a concrete a concrete line

798
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 7: and things like that. So I'm just like, however they

799
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:54,399
Speaker 7: decide to do it, they need to do it.

800
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 9: You already know how I feel about being able to

801
00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 9: run the ball. So however they got to do it,

802
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:00,839
Speaker 9: they need to do it.

803
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 7: But to your point, Zach, I think the depth that

804
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,359
Speaker 7: you have is important already. I would I don't want

805
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 7: to change.

806
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 4: That powers Johnson, if powers Johnson or Barton or selecting

807
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 4: the first round, they're going to move Tyler Smith. My opinions,

808
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 4: my opinion, well keep if they if they if they don't,

809
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 4: if they, if they take a tackle in the first round. Now,

810
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 4: now it's going to be about where would the center fall?

811
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:25,800
Speaker 4: Could that be? They don't have a fourth round pick,

812
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 4: And I kind of got like those guys you talk

813
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 4: about Norzad Penn, State, Limmer, Arkansaw or Bartoloni. Uh, you know,

814
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 4: Bartolini or Wisconsin, Wisconsin. I mean, that's that's kind of

815
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 4: where I'm at right now, because if you if you don't,

816
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 4: if you don't, now we'll see what they think about.

817
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 4: They'll they'll tell us what they think about. Uh, you know,

818
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 4: these the guys that currently have on the roster. But

819
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 4: I think it all all the movement of the left

820
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 4: guard is predicated on how they draft in the first round.

821
00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:58,399
Speaker 4: That's what I think.

822
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 3: I agree Jake asks, which are if the Cowboys take

823
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 3: a wide receiver, take Brian Thomas Jr. At twenty four,

824
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 3: and then take the running back Jonathan Brooks at fifty six,

825
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 3: the complete opposite of the last scenario. How would you

826
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 3: feel if they went wide receiver and running back pure

827
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 3: weaponry in the first two rounds?

828
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 2: What would what would the reaction be in this room?

829
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:24,919
Speaker 6: We'd have a lot of fun.

830
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 5: But I don't know if we get the ball to

831
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 5: them talk of that, Yeah, I don't I think it

832
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 5: for the long run, Sure, there would probably be a

833
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 5: lot of positive that would come out of having two

834
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:36,760
Speaker 5: weapons like that that you can put on the offensive

835
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 5: side of the ball and just really let cook. But

836
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 5: you're gonna need protection up front and granted, there are

837
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 5: still tackle bodies that they could throw up there and

838
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 5: be able to, you know, work into a starting situation

839
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 5: if they felt like they could. Let's say they don't

840
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 5: draft offensive line, you're probably moving Tyler Smith out the

841
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,399
Speaker 5: left tackle right, and you're putting TJ. Bass and Brock

842
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,359
Speaker 5: Kauffman at a combination of center and left guard. Your

843
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 5: other option is relying on the depth of which is

844
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,760
Speaker 5: Matt will lets Go who hasn't been able to stay healthy,

845
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 5: Austin Richards who hasn't been able to touch the field,

846
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 5: Josh Ball, who again hasn't been able to stay healthy.

847
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 5: So you know which, whichever one you feel least bubbly

848
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,720
Speaker 5: about is the is the one that you would probably

849
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 5: have to roll with.

850
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 4: If you win. If you win Thomas Brooks and went

851
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 4: Van Pram from Georgia, Yeah, I could dance with that

852
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 4: if you're gonna but I'm gonna need you to address

853
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 4: that center spot with that third round pick out of

854
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,760
Speaker 4: know where you guys think about Van Pram from Georgia,

855
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 4: But that's that that that might be if if you

856
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 4: if you just say we're taking those those two offensive players,

857
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 4: or excuse me, those two skill guys in the center,

858
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 4: then I could I can justify that.

859
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, even if you're not gonna go get the tackle,

860
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 7: I think get in the center does kind of even

861
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 7: things out because you have a TJ. Bast that can

862
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 7: do some guard things as well.

863
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 9: But do y'all think that. I mean, when when t J.

864
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 7: Bass starts showing what he was capable of, I immediately

865
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 7: thought about the fact that Zach Martin is you know

866
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 7: we're talking about we're mostly talking about the left side

867
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 7: of this offensive line.

868
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 9: Yeah, we ain't talked about the right side. And you know,

869
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 9: as much respect as we have for Zach even.

870
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 7: Though he was helping out his center lote, I do

871
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 7: think that, you know, we have to be considered of

872
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 7: the fact that he is getting older as well and

873
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 7: replenishing that spot. So it's like, I am very I

874
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 7: wonder what if that's going to come into play as well,

875
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 7: Like do they surprise us and get a guy that

876
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 7: just has that flexibility or is there are they just

877
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 7: going to stick with the left side.

878
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 8: They've always shown like flexibility is important, right right? They

879
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 8: do covet that, you know, a piano player on the

880
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 8: offensive line, they can play up and down. I think

881
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 8: that's definitely interesting. I would not be thrilled with that scenario.

882
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 8: And it's not that I don't like Brian Thomas.

883
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 2: I do.

884
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 8: I'm not trying to come away with the first round

885
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 8: wide receiver because I think it's one of the most

886
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 8: it's the deepest position groups. I don't think it's necessary.

887
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:55,359
Speaker 8: I think it's a little bit of a luxury pick.

888
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 8: I don't know that that's even necessarily the best player

889
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 8: on your board. So I you know, hey, I can

890
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 8: be sold again if you circle back and you get

891
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 8: a center you feel really good about in the third.

892
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 8: But to me, I'm building it from the offense. I

893
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 8: want to go inside out. Having great receivers.

894
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 4: Does mean nothing if I cannot block and protect upon Okay,

895
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 4: take Thomas out of the mix and put in Coleman,

896
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 4: put in Mitchell, put in any one of those wide receivers.

897
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,479
Speaker 4: Is there anybody that could get you off the off

898
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:29,240
Speaker 4: that thought another wide receiver because you don't like Thomas.

899
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 8: I mean I would be it's something I don't like Thomas.

900
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 8: I do have Mitchell great a higher though. Okay, Mitchell,

901
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 8: what if Mitchell was Mitchell?

902
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 4: They take Mitchell at twenty four and we're just assuming

903
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 4: like Barton's gone. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I think

904
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 4: I would feel the same no matter what receiver they

905
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 4: came away with.

906
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 2: So it's Marvin Harrison junior.

907
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 8: Look, hey, okay, if you're getting the best player, sure

908
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 8: at his position, I get it. But I just think overall,

909
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 8: I feel good about taking a wide receiver in the

910
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 8: third you know, and rather i'd take the better center

911
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 8: in the first.

912
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 5: Let me throw another scenario out where they don't take

913
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 5: an offensive lineman at all in the first couple of days.

914
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 5: Instead they addressed defensive tackle there in the third round,

915
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 5: and they get like a Mason Smith or McKinley Jackson,

916
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 5: and they circle back and getting Hunter nors At in

917
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:10,839
Speaker 5: the fifth round.

918
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 6: How do you feel about that?

919
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 4: I like Hunters, so I mean, I like, but I've

920
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 4: got the bubbles. I'm still nervous.

921
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 5: Look, I'm not taking a receiver in the Smith Mason

922
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 5: Smith meaning the fourth.

923
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 4: I would take Jackson over Mason Smith from Texas A

924
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,320
Speaker 4: and m myself too. Mason Smith to me is a teaser.

925
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, big body ruined the whole scenario for me.

926
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 3: Smiths just like I'm out, and for that reason.

927
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 9: But I would be cool with that.

928
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 7: I just I the I think the trenches on both

929
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,359
Speaker 7: sides of the ball, or what even to the zax

930
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 7: point are what I'm looking at them. Prioritizing despite the

931
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 7: fact that you only got Brandon Cooks for another deal year,

932
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 7: you just like lost Michael Gallup.

933
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 4: And you can use another receiver. Absolutely good.

934
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 8: I just think, man, if you're looking at like, where's

935
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,479
Speaker 8: the value in this draft, it's it's taken a receiver later.

936
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's fair, that's fair. I think it'll be some

937
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:06,280
Speaker 9: people there.

938
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:07,800
Speaker 2: Along the same lines.

939
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,919
Speaker 3: Matthew asked, what is the percentage that the Cowboys pick

940
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 3: anything other than offensive line in the first Give me,

941
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 3: give me a number, give me a percentage anything outside

942
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 3: I was taking twenty five to thir I think it's

943
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 3: even smaller than it probably is. I think it's probably

944
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 3: like fifteen. I think they're gonna take off Tasman.

945
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I get you. What if this what if I

946
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 4: told you Murphy's on the board. I think they'd still

947
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 4: probably go a lignement.

948
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 2: You know what it is if they depends on who

949
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 2: else is there.

950
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 8: I think what's more likely is you trade back and

951
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 8: all right, Eddrian Cooper.

952
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:42,320
Speaker 4: They'll get back from eight and m Murphy Guiden Latham mimes,

953
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 4: I my highest graded player.

954
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 2: Out of that is is Latham. I would take Latham.

955
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 5: There, Murphy Guiden Latham memes, I'm parachuting, you're getting out.

956
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 4: I would get blowing the hatches the bottom.

957
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 7: That stresses me out because I think that I think

958
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:01,800
Speaker 7: I would.

959
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 9: I don't know.

960
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 7: You already know how I feel about Latham. I think

961
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 7: he can play, but I'll be scared because.

962
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 4: Murphy, that's.

963
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 8: Really yeah, Murphy, I have better than those two tackles.

964
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 8: And I gotta I mean, hey, I'm standing on it.

965
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 8: You gotta stay true to the board addressing and so

966
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 8: what I was raised.

967
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 4: By Brian brought his son that. I mean, it's Latham.

968
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:26,359
Speaker 4: Latham would probably be my pick.

969
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,359
Speaker 8: Otherwise, if they're like, now we can't move them from

970
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 8: the right side, I'll just take Murphy and leave it.

971
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 3: If that's the thing, and that's part of the conversations

972
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 3: that we don't get to be a part of. If

973
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 3: they're keeping them at right tackle and they can't move

974
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 3: them the left, I still think he can play left personally,

975
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 3: or at.

976
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 2: Least play left guard, or yeah, sure, left guard. It's fine.

977
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 3: I'm cool with that, But if they're keeping them on

978
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 3: the right side, then yeah, I'm taking Murphy, but I

979
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 3: think he can play.

980
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 9: On the left side well.

981
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 7: With Memes, I think I've accepted that he's gonna go

982
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 7: to a team he's gonna be really good, and then

983
00:43:55,800 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 7: we're just gonna have to watch them afar because I probably, please,

984
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 7: what's wrong with you? Because I do think somebody's gonna

985
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 7: take the risk. Somebody's gonna do it, and but I

986
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 7: don't know. I think he might make it out the

987
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 7: first round.

988
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 9: More than what we think.

989
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 7: I think it's possible because you can like the player

990
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 7: all day, but the lack of playtime is stifling. It's stifling,

991
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 7: and it's important, and I think it's important to statch

992
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 7: sometimes he's getting the second level.

993
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 4: He's like, I don't have a feel of where to bok.

994
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 7: How different is he from the guys we're talking about

995
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 7: in the fifth, sixth, seventh round where we're like, Okay,

996
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 7: they're drafting for trades. Baby, if you draft him, you

997
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 7: drafted for trades. It's not enough tape to be super concrete, Like,

998
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:42,760
Speaker 7: no there.

999
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 8: Is, but I guess you do have a college football

1000
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 8: playoff semi finally again no, and.

1001
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 9: He and he bawled out. But we know about offensive line.

1002
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 7: It is literally I'm looking for consistency with it.

1003
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 4: And so I'm like, I don't think I've ever taken

1004
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 4: a player in the first round. I've seen one game on.

1005
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 15: I'm just saying, you know, maybe maybe US media scouts

1006
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 15: and we're just, oh my gosh, we're gushing over the talent,

1007
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 15: but maybe honestly the lack of tape could be a

1008
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,879
Speaker 15: reason why he slides the second you thank god if

1009
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 15: that dude turns out to be the best.

1010
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 9: Shocked not accepted it. I have accepted he's gonna be

1011
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:25,280
Speaker 9: really good. And it's just gonna hurt But that's okay.

1012
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 9: It's gonna hurt me. But it's just is what it is.

1013
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 9: I don't know. It's it's a lot to ask of.

1014
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:34,800
Speaker 3: A young if they if they across the hallway, and Brian,

1015
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 3: you've talked about this a little bit. If across the

1016
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 3: hallway they make the decision and they say, Memes is

1017
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:43,439
Speaker 3: good enough for us. Traits are there, we can teach

1018
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 3: him the fact the fundamentals are there enough to where

1019
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 3: he could come in start that guy, he's gonna I

1020
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 3: think he would turn in to be a monster, an

1021
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,720
Speaker 3: absolute monster. Do I think he does that in any scenario?

1022
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 3: Absolutely not. But those people across the hallway know scout

1023
00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 3: flyinmen and how to grow them.

1024
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 4: But she's right though, they're having the same thoughts we are.

1025
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:02,800
Speaker 2: Right now.

1026
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 4: They're like, Okay, what games we need to watch here? Okay,

1027
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,760
Speaker 4: they're on the Ohio State game and againy other games?

1028
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 4: We go, okay, what about Oh wait, he got hurt?

1029
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 4: How many games this guy played? You know you're gonna

1030
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 4: the report is going to be read. He's played eight

1031
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 4: games in his career, basically, Yeah.

1032
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 5: And I think it add a layer to it too,

1033
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 5: as he comes from a two A program in Georgia,

1034
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 5: Like it's not like he was coming from this powerhouse

1035
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 5: in Georgia high school football where he was developed as

1036
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 5: an offensive lineman. I mean he was coming from raw

1037
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,879
Speaker 5: where he was the guy in the entire town as

1038
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:32,839
Speaker 5: a fifteen year old.

1039
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,919
Speaker 4: So I'll let somebody else be a hero. I will.

1040
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 4: It'll hurt you when you watch, but you know it'll

1041
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 4: teach me next time. Oh yeah, sure, you could take

1042
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 4: a guy with eight games and he'll be an All

1043
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 4: Pro tackle. Can I get you guys to take a

1044
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 4: lot to or verse instead of a tackle.

1045
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, you absolutely could, especially if again, if it's between

1046
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 8: like geton or mems, I mean verse to me like

1047
00:46:57,719 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 8: I love law too, I think a lot two is

1048
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 8: the best. I'm not passing on him, but again, he's

1049
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 8: a guy with like the neck and the medicals.

1050
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 4: You got to feel good about it.

1051
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 8: Have you just had a situation with Leyton vander ash

1052
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 8: where unfortunately his career didn't go as long as you

1053
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 8: wanted to because of that. So maybe I would pivot

1054
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 8: to verse. But both of those guys likely are the

1055
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 8: top two players on my board compared to those other

1056
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 8: two tackles.

1057
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,439
Speaker 9: It's going to be a no for me though. On verse,

1058
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 9: I'm going to be a no because I don't care

1059
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 9: what edge you got.

1060
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 7: If your interior is lacking, then baby's gonna be struggling.

1061
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 3: Right all right, we gotta take a second break. Great

1062
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,359
Speaker 3: questions for Twitter on the twenty today. When we come back,

1063
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 3: I want to talk about some smaller school games, draw

1064
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 3: you offside D two Juco, and then maybe we'll hit

1065
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 3: some of those linebackers that are thirty visits.

1066
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 2: When we come back with more of the draft show

1067
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:45,520
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1068
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Speaker 3: Ford is the best in Texas. All right, I want

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Speaker 3: to go through some small school prospects here.

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00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 2: Division two JUCO HBCU.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't matter, it can't be D one and that includes

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Speaker 3: the FCS. No South Dakota State guys here. Okay, we're

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Speaker 3: getting real deep into this. No North Dakota State ye,

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Speaker 3: No South Dakota State.

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Speaker 4: No jack Rabbits here.

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Speaker 2: Get they're too good.

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Speaker 3: They've won national championships, even Montana. No Montana guys.

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Speaker 5: The reason date, the reason for bringing this to the

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Speaker 5: forefront as well is because who knows the next Austin

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Speaker 5: Eckler might be in this draft. The Cowboys they took

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Speaker 5: a couple of D two undrafted free undruct free agents

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Speaker 5: last year. David Derdan was one who's still in the

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Speaker 5: building rehabbing a torn a cl But I'm trying to

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Speaker 5: think of some other d two guys that have made

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Speaker 5: made names. And there was a guy out of Leonora

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Speaker 5: Ryan a couple of years of Kyle Doug, Kyle Duggar.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, there are some names, but yeah, I think

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Speaker 5: this is an interesting topic.

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Speaker 3: These are the Wisconsin Whitewater a couple of years ago

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Speaker 3: had an offensive lineman out of the draft.

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Speaker 6: Hell of a program.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Ali Murpett, Yeah, Hobart, that's a watched him. They

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Speaker 4: had a bounce house in the end zone. Kids were like,

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Speaker 4: they're playing the game. You see the kids in the

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00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 4: bounce house out in the end zone.

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Speaker 2: Love that. That's when you know that's real.

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Speaker 4: Hobart getting it done.

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Speaker 2: Darns all right, shall I want you to kick things off?

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Speaker 2: Who you got?

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Speaker 9: I got a guard? C. J.

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00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 7: Hanson from Holy Cross took snaps at center at the

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Speaker 7: Shrine Bowl. Looked really good. I had a lot of

1149
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:26,359
Speaker 7: good reports y'all. His initial quickness, I think he ran

1150
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 7: a four to five flat forty a few weeks ago,

1151
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 7: and just the lateral movement is fantastic from him. Like

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Speaker 7: I said, the initial quickness stands out. He thrives on counters,

1153
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 7: traps pulling because he has crazy balance and good athleticism.

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Speaker 9: He's off able to get off the line very fast.

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00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 7: He's a physical, physical finisher though, so he'll get there

1156
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:49,880
Speaker 7: with the speed, but he has some of the power

1157
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 7: to be able to finish blocks.

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Speaker 9: And because that's something you worry about.

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Speaker 7: With a lot of these guys who are super athletic,

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Speaker 7: You're like, hey, can you drop your anchor?

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00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 9: Can you drop that a? And can you make somebody

1162
00:51:58,160 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 9: move somebody out the way?

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00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 7: So he also plays with good knee bend and core strength.

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00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 7: Like I said, I think his foot quickness also allows

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00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,840
Speaker 7: him to recover even when he's in tough spots. Very

1166
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:12,399
Speaker 7: confident and versatile player. Like I said, he's I think

1167
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 7: people might be interested in being able to move him

1168
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 7: across the line. He can do some swing things, but

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Speaker 7: when he took when he took snaps at center at

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Speaker 7: the Shrine Bowl, he looks stout man and I think

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Speaker 7: he's definitely risen his stock with how he's tested.

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Speaker 9: Even at the combine. He crushed the combine.

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Speaker 7: He had one of the fastest times from the interior

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Speaker 7: linemen that we've seen in a minute.

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Speaker 9: So yeah, I just wanted to mention him and he's a.

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Speaker 7: He's a guy when you talk about earlier Zach like, hey,

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Speaker 7: maybe they get a center later.

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Speaker 9: He's a guard, but he does have.

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Speaker 7: The ability to play center and can be an option

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Speaker 7: in the later rounds.

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Speaker 3: I like that his five flat forty of the combine

1182
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 3: ninety fifth percentile out of interior offense.

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Speaker 9: He can move, but he's not all It's not all movement.

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Speaker 7: It's he has some power to him too, and I

1185
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 7: think that's what's gonna make him an appealing pick if

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Speaker 7: somebody grabs him.

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Speaker 2: All right, Nick, who you got?

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Speaker 5: So I'm gonna dive into a guy here who stole

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Speaker 5: the show at the Michigan State Pro Day a few

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Speaker 5: weeks ago. He was able to kind of sneak into

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Speaker 5: this pro day workout as a member of Farris State

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Speaker 5: in Big Rapids Michigan Division two program. He is the

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Speaker 5: cousin of Joey Porter junior if you all remember from

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Speaker 5: last year, and the nephew of Joey Porter senior. We're

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Speaker 5: gonna talk about Sean Stevens here s h o n

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Speaker 5: at hou spelled Sean forty yard dash that was timed.

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Speaker 5: This is from an area of scout at the Michigan

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Speaker 5: State Pro day forty yard dash, four point three eight,

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Speaker 5: shuttle four point two nine, three cones six point nine

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Speaker 5: to nine, vertical thirty six and a half, and broad

1201
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 5: was ten feet and whenever you look at this guy

1202
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 5: in coverage, he was he backed all of that up.

1203
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:49,799
Speaker 5: He had eight interceptions last year. He had a run

1204
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:51,800
Speaker 5: of five games in a row where he had an interception.

1205
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 5: A big returnability too. He had a kickoff return for

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Speaker 5: a touchdown last year, average almost forty yards per return.

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Speaker 6: Last year.

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Speaker 5: He was a guy that was trying to transfer into FBS.

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Speaker 5: Penn State was trying to get him in twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 5: Perdue was trying to get him in twenty twenty, or

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Speaker 5: excuse me, twenty twenty three, but he was denied transfer

1212
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Speaker 5: eligibility in both of those situations. It wasn't grades or anything.

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00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 5: It was kind of a situation I haven't quite figured out.

1214
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Speaker 5: But he ended up sticking with Farris State and now

1215
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 5: he's draft eligible, and man, he's been blowing up these workouts.

1216
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Speaker 5: The biggest concern about him five foot eight and a

1217
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Speaker 5: half one seventy three, so the size is not there whatsoever.

1218
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 5: But I think he's an interesting guy that you could

1219
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 5: probably throw in the nickel and you rely on him

1220
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:35,760
Speaker 5: to be able to take on some of these speedier

1221
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:39,320
Speaker 5: options that come out of the slots. He was able

1222
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 5: to play bigger than what his size was at that

1223
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 5: D two level last year, but once you upgrade that

1224
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 5: to the NFL level, you know, after a couple of

1225
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 5: years development, what does that look like. That's probably a

1226
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 5: valid criticism, but man, he has really stole the show

1227
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Speaker 5: from the area of scouts up there in Michigan.

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Speaker 9: Thank you for that which you.

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Speaker 4: Got Brian jayleb Hunt from Houston, talk about it. Huson

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Speaker 4: Christian Yeah transfer from Cornell. He was a high school

1231
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 4: safety wide receiver. He's an edge linebacker. He plays as

1232
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Speaker 4: a stand up linebacker. It rushes the passes passer. I

1233
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Speaker 4: think this is where he's going to have to play

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00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 4: in the NFL. He's going to have to be an

1235
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Speaker 4: edge player. Six four two fifty two. He physically looks

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Speaker 4: to part long arms height. He's going to need to

1237
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Speaker 4: get more strength in his lower body and to play

1238
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Speaker 4: with his experience. He doesn't handle blockers particularly well at

1239
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 4: this time. He tends to lose the ball, tends to

1240
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 4: play a little tall. But though there would be some

1241
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 4: initial quickness as a pass rusher. The linked helps him.

1242
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:40,800
Speaker 4: He takes like a euro step. You'll appreciate this in

1243
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:44,319
Speaker 4: your love for NBA basketball. He'll take that euro step

1244
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 4: to get off the ball and then burst where he

1245
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 4: needs to go. He closed from the backside. Once he

1246
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:51,720
Speaker 4: finds the ball, he is there. Need to keep working

1247
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 4: on him as a pass rusher. He's not a linebacker.

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Speaker 4: I think that you know, he's not the type that's

1249
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 4: going to read and play coverage. But if you want

1250
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 4: a guy that's got some raw traits to him, Jalen

1251
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Speaker 4: Jylex Hunt from Houston Christian is a guy.

1252
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:08,320
Speaker 5: And the Cowboys were in at senance at Houston Christians

1253
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 5: Pro day where he's basically just excuss.

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Speaker 8: That guy looks the part. But yeah, it's inconsistent getting

1255
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 8: off blocks and they do drop him off in covera

1256
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Speaker 8: a lot. He's having to play out there in space consistently.

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Speaker 8: I was talking with Nick, I saw this guy circling

1258
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:26,320
Speaker 8: on social media. Cole Burgess, the wide receiver from Courtland State.

1259
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Speaker 8: Interesting player, six foot one, one nine two. We're going

1260
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Speaker 8: and we're talking D three football here with the Dragons there.

1261
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Speaker 8: Let's go to the Elite eight confer the Empire eight Conference.

1262
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:40,359
Speaker 8: But he was first team All Empire Conference at eighty

1263
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Speaker 8: seven catches one three hundred and seventy three or sixteen

1264
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Speaker 8: tds last year and last season, I mean all of

1265
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 8: that was a school record. He's got three career touchdowns

1266
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 8: on kick returns as well in a block punt, so

1267
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Speaker 8: he's definitely going to be able to contribute make a

1268
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 8: team on special teams. But he will I mean, this

1269
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:57,760
Speaker 8: guy is reckless, abandoned. He will sell out his body

1270
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Speaker 8: to dive, get on the ground and fight for football.

1271
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:02,919
Speaker 8: So he'll go over the middle. He does not care

1272
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:05,240
Speaker 8: if he's getting double teams. He's willing to take a shot.

1273
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:08,839
Speaker 8: He's got natural hands and to me, the route runnings there,

1274
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 8: I mean fifty to fifty balls for a smaller receiver.

1275
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 8: He's gonna go up and get it. Plays with good

1276
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 8: vision and instincts. He's got good balance through contact, quick

1277
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 8: off the line, can create some separation.

1278
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 4: Now there's times, right, I don't think he's got elite speed.

1279
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 8: He's got a four to four to seven guy, so

1280
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 8: he's good at hand fighting to try and create a

1281
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 8: little bit of space for himself. At the NFL level,

1282
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 8: when he goes up against some bigger, faster corners and

1283
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 8: he's playing against some press man. How does he look

1284
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 8: in those situations? But my gosh, his tape Cole Burgess

1285
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 8: from Courtland was it was a lot of fun.

1286
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Speaker 2: Study okay, a lot of fun.

1287
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 4: Just because I said it earlier.

1288
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 2: There's no FCS allowed.

1289
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 3: I don't want any of Houston Christian or Holy Cross

1290
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Speaker 3: individuals coming after me.

1291
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Speaker 2: They do play in the FCS. But but I am

1292
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 2: it's okay, I went allow it. I'm going to allow it.

1293
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 4: But you went D three.

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Speaker 7: You were I'm trying to find that back two more

1295
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 7: then i got one more than Shrinebowl guy, Sundata Sundita

1296
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Speaker 7: Anderson edge stake.

1297
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Speaker 2: Later. I gotta be careful.

1298
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Speaker 4: Guys.

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Speaker 6: He is awesome though he's a big dude off the end.

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00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 2: Tell me about him anyway, I'm allowing.

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Speaker 9: I'm upset. Well are they?

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Speaker 6: You said there.

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00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:23,920
Speaker 4: They are?

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00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 2: So I said, so go for it.

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00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 9: I'm still learning. Leave me alone anyway.

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00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, you need to know, that's all. I go for it.

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00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 7: You talk about the Bill Nick, Yeah, dog, he's he's huge,

1308
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 7: but he's moving very violent hands. His motor is through

1309
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 7: the roof, the backside pursuits there. He has a quick

1310
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 7: initial step like he he made some of those tackles

1311
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 7: at the Shrine Bowl look crazy in one on one.

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00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 9: I like his hand placement.

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00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 7: He can read well, and he has the ability to disengage,

1314
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 7: which is very important to me looking at edge now

1315
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:58,919
Speaker 7: because Lord, there's so many of them that cannot get

1316
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 7: off blocks consist and it drives me nuts. And he

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00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:06,160
Speaker 7: when he does disengage, it's aggressive. It's not it's get

1318
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 7: off me. It's not get off me. I mean it's

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00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 7: it's he's really trying to get people's hands off of him.

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00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 7: He has to get better on taking on double teams

1321
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 7: and finding you know, strength in his anchor and being

1322
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 7: able to take those on, which is something that guys

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00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 7: develop over time or whatever the case may be. But yeah,

1324
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 7: you talk about the violent hands, the motor all that stuff.

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00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 9: He has a nice little toolbox too as a rusher.

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00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 7: He's a guy that I think people should look at

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00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:31,440
Speaker 7: as somebody that can get picked up and make a

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00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 7: difference on a team.

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00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 9: Yeah, for sure, I'm just go through the freaking.

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00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 4: Yes real quick too. Two names you need to keep

1331
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Speaker 4: an eye on. I'm not going to talk about him

1332
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 4: in link. But Jovenini Manu from British Columbia love it.

1333
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:48,920
Speaker 4: Is an offensive tackle and he's got a teammate, Theo Benedett,

1334
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 4: who is the right tackle. One's a left tackle, the

1335
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 4: other's a right tackle. British Columbia. These two kids in

1336
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 4: the offensive line are probably gonna get drafted. We're gonna

1337
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 4: call their names at some point in time. This trapt

1338
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:03,480
Speaker 4: talking to scouts. They said, hey, make sure you take

1339
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 4: a look at these two British Columbia offensive linemen.

1340
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Speaker 2: They were on the same team, same team.

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01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:12,760
Speaker 4: Manu plays left tackle, Benedette plays right tackle.

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01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 2: I want to watch that film. Yeah, that sounds fun.

1343
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 4: It's funny with about seventeen guys in motion at once.

1344
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 4: You're kind of like, WHOA some serious eye candy going

1345
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 4: on here. But yeah, these two British Columbia offensive tackles

1346
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 4: man who was three hundred and forty pounds and moves

1347
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:28,440
Speaker 4: like he's about three ten.

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01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 3: I feel like you would just take their their film

1349
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 3: and put it up next against like WWE, where people

1350
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:34,959
Speaker 3: are lifting people off the ground.

1351
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 4: There's a lot of movement going on in at a

1352
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:39,560
Speaker 4: lot of movement going on.

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01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 2: That's a lot of fun.

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01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 5: If I can shout out a couple of more guys

1355
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 5: on the HBCU side of things.

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01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 6: RJ.

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01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 5: Mobley receiver out of Winston Salem State up in North Carolina.

1358
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 5: Take a look at that guy, really productive out of

1359
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 5: the slot there for Winston Salem State. And then also

1360
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 5: Jordan Toles out of a Morgan State safety kind of

1361
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 5: like a safety line backer hybrid type.

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01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:01,000
Speaker 6: Dude.

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01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 5: I think he's he's a guy that probably best at safety, though,

1364
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 5: I think he's gonna be a guy that's gonna be

1365
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 5: priority undrafted free agent Jordan Toles. A really fascinating watch

1366
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:09,920
Speaker 5: there for him.

1367
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 3: Five dollars to the first person that can name Winston

1368
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:13,440
Speaker 3: Salem State's logo.

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01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:17,200
Speaker 2: That's not Nick Harris. Sorry, I just figured you would

1370
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:18,880
Speaker 2: probably know it. Anybody.

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01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:25,000
Speaker 3: The Devil's no one more guests anything, Dragons, the Rams,

1372
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 3: they were the Rams.

1373
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:31,640
Speaker 2: I just ran. It was the Ram like I justin.

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01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:36,120
Speaker 4: I brought up Hobert College today, Hobert College, shout out

1375
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:36,919
Speaker 4: on the Draft show.

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01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:38,439
Speaker 2: How about that he watched that tape?

1377
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 4: Folks.

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01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 3: Absolutely, We've got a lot more to break down coming up.

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Speaker 3: On Thursday, eleven am Central time. We'll be back here

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01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 3: with twenty one days. Thursday will mark three weeks out

1381
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:51,200
Speaker 3: from the NFL Draft for Zach Wilchuck, Nick Harris, Brian

1382
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 3: brought us Ayisha Morrison. I'm Kyle Yeoman saying so long

1383
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 3: from the draft show. We will see you on Thursday.

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