1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,120 Speaker 1: First question we asked everybody with you. 2 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 2: We're gonna ask it in two parts, the first person 3 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 2: to bust your ass, the first person to bust your 4 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 2: ass on the basketball court, and then we're gonna ask 5 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 2: the first person to bust your ass in the studio. 6 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 2: You've seen somebody rap and you just like, I gotta 7 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:18,279 Speaker 2: step my lyrics up or I gotta go back to 8 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 2: the page and get it right. 9 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, okay. 10 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 3: On the on the court, it was this cat that 11 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 3: used to be from my neighborhood named Speedy. 12 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: He could really hoop, he was quick and he just man. 13 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 3: He just would get I thought I had to handle 14 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:33,239 Speaker 3: you know. They'd be like, man, Rashi that's my name. 15 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:35,919 Speaker 3: They was like Rashika who ros can who? And he 16 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 3: was shorter than me, Like he just telled my ass up. 17 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 3: But then on the on the MC side, man, it's 18 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 3: only it's only one song where I felt like as 19 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 3: an MC, when you get on a song with somebody, 20 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,520 Speaker 3: you like I'm about to snap. You know you don't 21 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 3: want to. You don't want people to be like yo, 22 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 3: he killed you. On that side, yeah, it was a 23 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 3: song I did with with Cannabis. Y'all, remember cannabis. 24 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: Man. 25 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 3: Man, he killed me on my own song, Like, and 26 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 3: my guys is like you let this kill yo? 27 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: The song I was just but I was. It just 28 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: was what it was. Man. 29 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 3: He was usually I don't never like I would go 30 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 3: back and rewrite, but he just was. 31 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: He was in his own and he just help. 32 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, yo yo yo yo, coming to you live. Man, 33 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 4: we at all Stars Shot Town were in the building, Yes, sir, 34 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 4: the blackest one me my main man Common you. 35 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 5: Got a real one in the house Chicago standing up. 36 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 2: I used to hear a lot of stuff about cannabis 37 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 2: and how dope he was and just he was lyrically. Yeah, 38 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 2: he was on one of one of them guys that 39 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 2: really had like super dope versus. But you know one 40 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 2: thing about songs is it's a song gotta be dope too. 41 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 2: I mean, you could be a dope and see, but 42 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 2: you still got to be able to make dope songs 43 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 2: for people to really rock because it's still music. So 44 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 2: I had to learn that shit too, because it's like 45 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 2: people saying you could rhyme, but people ain't even messing 46 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 2: with your music like that, so you got to put 47 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 2: them both together. 48 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: It's just like I say, like in New York. 49 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 2: Not trying to dis New York or so far far, 50 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 2: but you know they they the motherland of it. They 51 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 2: all about lyrics and stuff like that. But you know, 52 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 2: they got a lot of casts that really can rap. 53 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 2: But putting the song together, it's like it's the most 54 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 2: difficult thing. 55 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: When did you like when you came up? 56 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 2: I know you loved hoop, you love the hoop, But 57 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 2: when did you know like this rap or this poetry 58 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 2: or all these words is something that I really want 59 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 2: to play with each other. 60 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:48,679 Speaker 1: Man, I would do something. Well. 61 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 3: I was twelve years old when I wrote my first rap, 62 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 3: and all my homies and like my cousin was like, 63 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 3: they was like, damn, that's dope. So I was like 64 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 3: I might be dope. But then I just kept writing, 65 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 3: and like I had a group in high school, and 66 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 3: then like around second year, sophomore year, I was like, 67 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 3: I really want to I want to be a rap artist. 68 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, I just knew I 69 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 3: felt like I could do it. I knew I could 70 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 3: do it, and I started at the time I was 71 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 3: I would buy records and write down the address of 72 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 3: the record company to send my tape to the sending 73 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 3: my school school, straight up sending sending my tape to 74 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 3: the record label, trying to get signed. 75 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 2: It was the first time, like you got you got 76 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 2: the confidence to be like, I'm a rapper cause you 77 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 2: know I got homeboys and be like a rapp and 78 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 2: I'll be trying to car like, hey you raped and 79 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 2: support it, let's do whatever. 80 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: But it be a moment where you'd be like, I 81 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: don't want to tell nobody, Yeah, you're a rapper. You 82 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. 83 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 3: YEA. Honestly, I think by the time, by the time 84 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 3: I was in high school second year, I felt like 85 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 3: I could say that because I'd be freestyling and lunch 86 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 3: gym class and people are coming to me. Yo, rocks, 87 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 3: gone right, kick that round, you said, you know, just 88 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 3: you know, so I could claim it. And plus at 89 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 3: a certain point, it just it got a click that 90 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 3: you can do it. 91 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: In your head. 92 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 3: You gotta start telling yourself that you could do it, 93 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 3: and once you go out there and do it, you're like, oh, man, 94 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 3: I am what I am with it, and you see 95 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 3: how to affect people. I was talking to Baron Davis 96 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 3: one time. It made me think of what hoop did 97 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 3: because he said, Man, I started wanting to hoop more 98 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 3: because I saw how it affected everybody. You know, what 99 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 3: I was doing is that how y'all felt, Like what 100 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 3: what made y'all like be like, Okay, I really want 101 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 3: to hoop? Like this is my dream. I'm going for. 102 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 5: Us simple for me, bro, I was watching MJ every day. 103 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. 104 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 4: You know a lot of people say that and they 105 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 4: you know, now that's the real true life story for me. 106 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 4: I was watching MJ growing up here in Chicago WGN, 107 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 4: sitting on my floor watching the greatest ever do it. 108 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 4: I'm like, i want to be like Mike for real, 109 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 4: and I'm going out in the hall, in the driveway, 110 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 4: in the alley, trying to mimic the moves and doing 111 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 4: all of that until the point where you know, when 112 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,359 Speaker 4: you get a little bit older and you start, you know, 113 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 4: seeing what really going on, You're like, I want know who. 114 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 4: I love this feeling I get when I'm doing it. 115 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 4: I don't get this feeling nowhere else, no no other way. 116 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 4: It's impossible to replicate. Like I'm out here competing and 117 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 4: then when you know, we start to get good. 118 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 5: Obviously you know what I'm saying. That's what we thrive on. 119 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 4: We thrive on the cheers, people calling your name, talking 120 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,359 Speaker 4: about what you did, how you did it. You just 121 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 4: want that. It just becomes you know that na feeling 122 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 4: likedd like a hooper. Then you start seeing it like 123 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 4: all right, they supposed to be the best. I could 124 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 4: be as good as him, or I'm good as him, 125 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 4: and then for you know, it's shit, it's go time. 126 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 4: Like you're getting talked about and stuff, and now the 127 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 4: scouts coming and you starting to know it's real. You're 128 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 4: starting to play like cause I remember when I went 129 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 4: to DTIs camp. That was the eye opening for me 130 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 4: my sophomore year. This is the camp where TMAC became TMAC, 131 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 4: where he went from unranked to number one in the world. 132 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 4: This is that camp. I'm in that camp. All right, cool? 133 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 4: You know we're here where that ball dropped and they 134 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 4: start hooping. I was looking around like okay, like I'm 135 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 4: clearly not in this league. I'm telling you, I had 136 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 4: a bad camp, didn't get the ball. 137 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 5: Then play well. 138 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 4: I came home that summer military mindset, I gotta get better, bro, 139 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 4: And then I did because I had you gotta understand 140 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 4: what Lamar Oldham was there. T mac was there, Tim Thomas, 141 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 4: everybody was there. This was like one of the biggest man. 142 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 4: When I got there, I was like, damn. I was like, 143 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 4: this is it right here? That was a new level. 144 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 5: It was a new level when I wasn't on it yet. 145 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 2: When I started like really loving it. It was a 146 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 2: fifth grade year I started playing organized My mom made 147 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 2: me play, made me play basketball. I used to get 148 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 2: these permission slips from the coach and she would bring 149 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 2: them home. I had a book bag full of permission 150 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 2: slips because I never gave them to my mom. I 151 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 2: always used to think she taking my free time, on 152 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 2: my time after school with my friends away from me 153 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 2: by me going to practice. 154 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I never went to practice. 155 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 2: So I tried to quit every time chance I got, 156 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 2: you know, starting out, you know how you start off 157 00:06:58,000 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 2: the team, and you'd be like that whole month that 158 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 2: really working out, running drills, doing stuff. 159 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: I ain't never. 160 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 2: Experienced that, a real workout or real like getting yourself 161 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 2: in shape and all that stuff. So I tried to quit. Quit, quit, 162 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 2: And I went through the season and we lost like 163 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 2: two games, lost in the championship, and I was boohoo crying, 164 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 2: like boohoo crying. But after that, every season after that, 165 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 2: it was like this was the routine and to feel 166 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 2: the games once I got to the games and seen 167 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 2: the energy that, like I said, we was in elementary school, 168 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 2: so you know, you got your mama's on the side, 169 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 2: like go baby, it's okay baby, you a right, you know, 170 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 2: just rooting for you know, because your young kids. And 171 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 2: over the years, every year it got better as I 172 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 2: got better, you know, crowds getting bigger, and. 173 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 3: When we clicked, like you was like, ah, I can really, 174 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 3: I'm the man, Like yeah. 175 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 2: It clicked for me in ninth grade because when I 176 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 2: was in eighth grade. One from seven through ninth is 177 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 2: junior high in ten through twelfth was high school. So 178 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 2: when I was in eighth grade, we had a bunch 179 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 2: of players that everybody thought we was nice. Didn't nobody 180 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 2: think that anybody was the best players other players that 181 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 2: they thought was probably better than me, and a couple 182 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 2: of the superstar players on the team. They left because 183 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 2: they didn't think we was gonna have a season next 184 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 2: year because we only played against two teams. So I stayed, 185 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 2: but I was playing in programs I ain't played high 186 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 2: school basketball, but I was playing with grown men in 187 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 2: the proram. So I went through that ninth grade year 188 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 2: and when I got to high school, I was over. 189 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:32,199 Speaker 2: After that. We had ten games the whole year, and 190 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 2: I tried to play high school but they wouldn't let 191 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 2: me because I didn't go to that school. So they 192 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 2: was like, nah, you can't play. So I had the 193 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,679 Speaker 2: ten games. We played one team full time, two at 194 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 2: our play to what they play. Then we played the 195 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 2: other team four times. 196 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 3: And but you went straight from high school to the 197 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,839 Speaker 3: league though, Yeah, Like junior year. He was like, man, 198 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:53,839 Speaker 3: I can go straight to the pros or was it? 199 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 3: When did you know that? I just wouldn't believe it. 200 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 2: I stayed naive to it, like everything, because everything got better, 201 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 2: Everything got better every year. I started seeing nothing but 202 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 2: college coaches at the game my junior year. Then when 203 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 2: I committed, I went ahead to commit it before my 204 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 2: senior year and next ye you know what I'm saying, 205 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 2: nothing but NBA collars and my. 206 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, I talk. 207 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: I took a visit to DePaul. 208 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 4: I told him, I said, Bruh, were gonna go out 209 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 4: and hang out, but you out of here. 210 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:21,959 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm aware. 211 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 4: I knew the draft boards, I knew the you know, 212 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 4: the little mock drafts and all that. I'm like, Bro, 213 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 4: you on the draft boards in the top team, like 214 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 4: you not coming to the college. 215 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:33,719 Speaker 5: Nobody's college for what. That's what I swear. When he 216 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 5: came on his visit, I was like, you know, we're 217 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:36,319 Speaker 5: out of here. Bro. 218 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 4: By the way, I'm out of here too, but you're 219 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 4: out of here. 220 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 2: But you can't like sometimes it was just a lot 221 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 2: of people told me that. But you know, it's it's 222 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 2: hard to believe in. My mama stayed like foot down 223 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 2: on me. They don't take nothing from nobody. Don't be 224 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 2: just believing what everybody say. Just because they saying it, 225 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 2: don't mean it's true. And I felt like she was 226 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 2: scared for me. Like men, you watched Jordan them together 227 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:02,439 Speaker 2: like sure you're ready for this, baby, Sure you're ready 228 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 2: for that level. Skip college and go to that level. 229 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 2: So I felt like she was my best friend. He 230 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,319 Speaker 2: and he was. He was like man, but when he 231 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 2: seen me around actual NBA players and be like, oh 232 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 2: he the same height as. 233 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: Them, he might be on the level. 234 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:19,839 Speaker 5: He might to stay up. 235 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: When he came to visit de pause. At the first time, 236 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: y'all know, we. 237 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 5: Played a You Together. You play you Together. 238 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 4: So when he was in eighth, ninth grade, ninth grade, 239 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 4: I was a junior show. From that point we played 240 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:34,439 Speaker 4: the next two years on a You Together. So he 241 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 4: from me saying when he started to come to town, 242 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 4: he'll stay stay at my house because it's four hours. 243 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 4: So you know what I'm saying, Yeah, we got saw. 244 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 4: That's what makes it so crazy, man. Like when I say, 245 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 4: when people talk about this whole thing, it's like it's 246 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,199 Speaker 4: the truest form of being organic, you know what I'm saying, 247 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 4: Like all the way back to what the celebration that 248 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 4: we was doing, and then you bring it full circle. 249 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 4: We've been knowing each other for that long legit solid 250 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 4: bros like that, and then for us to get this 251 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 4: type of reception and like, you know what I'm saying, 252 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 4: how you like everybody to come and sit down with us? Man, 253 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 4: that's like a huge you know what I'm saying. And 254 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 4: here you talk about how you rock with us, how 255 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 4: you're watching us from afar and the. 256 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 5: Third like that, that's you know what I'm saying. 257 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 4: All we doing is everybody we bring on here you 258 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 4: were showing our love, giving you your flowers while you're 259 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 4: here and showing what we rock people that we rock with, 260 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 4: and you know to hear the love is reciprocating like that. 261 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 5: That's that's everything for us, bro, Like for real. 262 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 3: Plus some things I feel like now in the world, man, 263 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 3: certain things is just real true, Like you're saying, y'all 264 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 3: got a real organic, authentic brotherhood and friendship. Like those things, man, 265 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 3: are the best things now in your world. Like people 266 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 3: don't be feeling that fake. That fakes it's just you 267 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 3: don't do good for the world. No more cats be like, 268 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 3: I ain't messing with that that stuff. One thing you 269 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 3: said too cute that I was thinking about the moment 270 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 3: that made me step up when you was like, man, 271 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 3: you saw cats and you was like, oh no, I 272 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 3: ain't at this level rap wise. That happened to me 273 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 3: when Nas came out with this album called Illmatic that 274 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 3: was his first album, right that jone was so like 275 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:06,439 Speaker 3: it was so groundbreaking, it incredible, Right, So I was like, 276 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 3: I ain't at that level. 277 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: I got it. 278 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 3: I gotta go work like I just started. I started 279 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 3: working on rhymes and just reading different stuff to try 280 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 3: to you know, just build my mind up because I 281 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 3: was listening to Notnas was using different work but it 282 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 3: was street but it was he was like a poet 283 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 3: slash street. It's just it was incredible. That took me 284 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 3: to new levels, you know, word it up. 285 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's that like because your style is not what 286 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 4: everybody is into. 287 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: I know you, well, you know what I'm saying. 288 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,559 Speaker 4: You got a message, you positive and different things like that. 289 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 5: At what point did you change? 290 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 4: Because I feel like it was at one point where 291 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 4: like you always been doing what you've been doing, you 292 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 4: know what went from Chicago, So I obviously been up, 293 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 4: but like it feels like you got more popular at 294 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 4: a certain point. It was like at one point you 295 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 4: always still doing the same thing, but like at one 296 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 4: point it was like the light turned off everybody else. 297 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, really what happened was like I started getting better 298 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 3: and even at a certain point, I think everybody started 299 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 3: being like, Okay, we can appreciate some of this music too, 300 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 3: like this we like all the other stuff, but yo, 301 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,959 Speaker 3: this stuff got some some value. And I had a song. 302 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 3: I had a song called the Light. When you said 303 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 3: the light turned on, the light was like that was 304 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 3: like you know that song was the first time I 305 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 3: was like, man, my song getting past just that underground 306 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 3: hip hop crowd and that artsy crowd. 307 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 4: That felt like a neighborhood though the video and everything, 308 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 4: but that felt like growing up at the crib in Chicago. 309 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 5: That felt like summertime shots. 310 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. 311 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, that man, that was a feel good joint. That 312 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,079 Speaker 3: And then I ain't gonna front hooking up with Kanye 313 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 3: when he was producing like the Corners and b and 314 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 3: all like my like, Kanye know how to make good songs, 315 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 3: so like he's one of the greatest producers artists that 316 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 3: I've been around. 317 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: So that helped too. 318 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 3: But I mean before that is when the light came 319 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:52,679 Speaker 3: out and then and stuff, people started knowing me. But 320 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 3: then working with Ya was like, Okay, I'm gonna take 321 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 3: a dude that's like an artsy type of MC just 322 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 3: that made go left sometimes, but we're gonna make these 323 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 3: songs be something. 324 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 1: That anybody can rock to, y'all rock toing it up, 325 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 1: you know. So that helped. 326 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 3: And then I started doing other things too, like you know, 327 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 3: along with acting and starting I think after a while 328 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 3: people started being like, well, dudes, sticking to what he owns, 329 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 3: so they respected it they saw I wasn't changing just 330 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 3: for popularity. I wouldn't go like, you know, just be like, Okay, 331 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 3: I'm gonna chase the dollar. 332 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: You know. 333 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 3: Of course I wanted to be I want prosperity in abundance. 334 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 3: But but I was like, I want to go change 335 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 3: myself because I knew I at some point I gotta 336 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 3: I gotta come home to myself and look in the 337 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 3: mirror and be like you know, so I was like 338 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 3: me sticking to what I who I am and being 339 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 3: authentic to myself gave more people a chance eventually if 340 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 3: they got there. Cause you know, shoot, like growing up, 341 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 3: you might be like, all right, I'm all into this, 342 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 3: but sometimes when you evolve, you'd be like, you know 343 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 3: what I see life Differently, you might want to hear 344 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 3: some music that cheer you out. 345 00:14:58,560 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, because. 346 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 4: That think about like the whole line like he in 347 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 4: the verse giving you all the love in the world, 348 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 4: like like lypy, I want to rhyme like common sense, 349 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 4: but you know what I'm saying, like common exactly, so 350 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. But then that's dope to hear, 351 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 4: like you know, even though like you said, you weren't 352 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 4: getting the bread like that. You stuff to who you are, 353 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 4: and on the back end, it came out your way, 354 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like you steal you and 355 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 4: now everybody see you in a different light. 356 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 5: You own doing movies and you. 357 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 4: Know you producing and stuff now, like that's that's crazy, man, 358 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 4: That's that's what I wanted to ask though. So how 359 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 4: did you even get to the point where you came 360 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 4: from being a rap artist and then crossing over into 361 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 4: film and doing that. How did that happen? Was that 362 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 4: something that you sought to do or it just kind 363 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 4: of happened and you started to go with it. 364 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 3: Man, I was I put out. I don't think I was. 365 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 3: On my fifth album. I was just like, man, it's 366 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 3: something else out there for me. Like, I don't know 367 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 3: what it is, but I knew I wanted to keep rapping. 368 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 3: I want to rap for the rest of my life 369 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 3: like a jazz musicians. I love rapping. But I was like, 370 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 3: it's something else. So I started trying to do these 371 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 3: different things and music orients it really and it wasn't 372 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 3: moving me. I went to acting class because I was 373 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 3: already this woman who worked in my record label was like, 374 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 3: I want you to meet this acting coach. 375 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: I met the acting coach and. 376 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 3: I was like, Okay, I'm about to go because I 377 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 3: was doing a little rap acting and I was like, man, 378 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 3: I'm too nervous. 379 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: I gotta get past this, so I gotta figure out. 380 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 3: So I went to the acting class and I was like, Oh, 381 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 3: this is this something I really love to do. I 382 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 3: feel like as an actor, I want to be I'm striving. 383 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 3: I'm gonna be one of the greats. I want to 384 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 3: do great work, like really be a great. So I'm like, 385 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 3: so I'm really working at the craft. And I kept 386 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 3: and I'm still working at the craft. And I was 387 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 3: going to class. I would be on tour and I'd 388 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 3: come back from tour, go to class, go to acting class. 389 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 3: And I started auditioning just getting no I wasn't getting 390 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 3: no movies, no movies. They told my agent, they was like, man, 391 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 3: this dude green, you know, like he ain't got no experience. 392 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 3: So that next audition, so I'm gonna show them show 393 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 3: these yeah got you know, And that next audition it 394 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 3: was just the right time. It was a movie that 395 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 3: I really loved the script too, and it was like 396 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 3: the first time I got a call back, I was 397 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 3: geeked and I just kept working on that same audition. 398 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 3: I was on tour. I had a dude, this videographer 399 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,640 Speaker 3: taping me. Kept watching it back. It's like watching tape 400 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 3: or something. So then I watched it back and I 401 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 3: was like, uh, you know, started learning stuff. Went back, 402 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 3: got the second audition, and the director he really didn't 403 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 3: want me at first. I mean, he liked my acting, 404 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 3: but he he's like, I don't want to put another 405 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 3: musician in the movie because he had Alisia Keys And 406 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 3: it was this movie called smoking as one of the 407 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 3: first movie thank You. And then I came in there 408 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 3: and rocked at the audit. I was about to be 409 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 3: on tour with yay Me and Ye was about to 410 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 3: go on Me Ya and Keisha Ko and the director 411 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 3: called me man. He called me man, ain't gonna lie. 412 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 3: I was like, man, tears in my So it was 413 00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 3: the first time I got a movie and I was like, man, 414 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 3: I call my mother, like, Mom, I'm about to be 415 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 3: in a movie, you know what I mean. 416 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: Like it was incredible. 417 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 3: So five minutes later I had to go over to 418 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 3: the other hotel room and tell yay I can't go 419 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 3: on this tour. So it was like a roller coaster 420 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,199 Speaker 3: cause this is my guy. He didne hooked it up 421 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 3: for me, like to I'm opening up for him, really, 422 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 3: you know, and he felt it yeah, and I'm like, man, 423 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 3: I can't. 424 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: I can't do it. You know. 425 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 3: It's like if y'all agreed to something, but you know 426 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 3: that this opportunity is a dream of yours and you 427 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 3: gotta go tell him, Nah, I can't do it. So 428 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 3: it was like that this one. I was like, man, 429 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:36,199 Speaker 3: this is my guy. He was like, you know, I 430 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:37,880 Speaker 3: wish you could go, but I want you. 431 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:41,120 Speaker 1: To go do your thing, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, 432 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 1: that was love. 433 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 3: So then from there I started just keep getting movies. 434 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,719 Speaker 3: But a lot of see a lot of the movies 435 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 3: I was going for, they don't be one rapper sometimes 436 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 3: and I was like, yo, I'm an actor. 437 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: I ain't just a rapper. I'm an actor. 438 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 3: I'm like, you put me with any other actor I can. 439 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 3: I'm gonna burn the scene with him, you know her, 440 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 3: you know. But some direct is didn't want to see 441 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 3: me because I be wanting to do different types of movies. 442 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna be like in the character. Yeah, yeah, 443 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: exactly exactly. 444 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 2: You know, we love we love basketball movie, any basketball movie, 445 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 2: you just right, and it's with the Queen. Yeah, like 446 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:18,439 Speaker 2: I thope was that experience and you love basketball, you 447 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 2: get to do a basketball mother with Latif dope and 448 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 2: it was a great movie. 449 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: So how was that experience? Movie? That was like The 450 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: Best Man? 451 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 3: That was like a dream because you know, as you said, 452 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 3: we know I love basketball, so it was like my 453 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 3: little dream too. 454 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 1: It's like I'm playing in the league. 455 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 3: Cameos, came cameos and and they like, you know, for 456 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 3: the movie, they set it up. Well, I had to 457 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 3: train with this assistant coach for the nets, you know, 458 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 3: like so he was working on my shooting. 459 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: I was really learning shooting better, like shooting better. 460 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 3: And this is my first lead in the movie, and 461 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 3: I'm getting paid to like learn how to play basketball better. 462 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,919 Speaker 1: And Latifa she wanted the cooler people. 463 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 3: I mean, y'all probably met her, but she one of 464 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 3: the coolest people like you ever met in life. And 465 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 3: she just she's somebody I always respected because she came 466 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 3: from hip hop and took it to a new level 467 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 3: whole you know, I scared nominated actress and you know, 468 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 3: hosting the Grammys and doing you know, big big boy things. 469 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 3: So she I always respected. So when we did that movie, 470 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 3: I ain't gonna lie it was it was tough for 471 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 3: like filming it, but it was a lot. 472 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 1: Of fun because I did a lead. 473 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 3: So I ain't know what it's like to have that 474 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 3: that movie on your back. Yeah, that that movie. It's like, yeah, 475 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 3: it's like your team, man, you know what, it's your team. 476 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,400 Speaker 3: It's like in the movies, they say you number one 477 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 3: on the call. She like, I was number one. I 478 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 3: was number two because it was my teeth was number one. 479 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 3: But it's just you that that's your old thing and 480 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 3: you got to do it every night. Like you know 481 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. If you don't get, if you don't get, 482 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 3: and that's for real because like ultimately you gotta kill 483 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:03,360 Speaker 3: every single. 484 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 2: One thing about the movies too. Like when I did 485 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 2: the movies, what I didn't like was the hours. We 486 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 2: was either filming from six in the morning to six 487 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 2: in the evening or it was six in the evening 488 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 2: to six. 489 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: In the morning. How did you feel about that? Like 490 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 1: them different hours. 491 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 2: I know, you do your studio stuff and you go 492 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 2: on there, but it's on your own time, on my 493 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 2: own time. 494 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, because see that's what movie making is like. Man, 495 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 3: you gotta like just surrender yourself to another schedule, another 496 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 3: way of working. During the album, you the director, I 497 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 3: meaning I set the times. I say I'm going to 498 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 3: studio three, I can get there in four. Y I'm 499 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 3: paying for it. But it's all right. But on a movie, man, 500 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 3: you need to be on time and then you gotta 501 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 3: be there for them long hours. And man, I hadn't 502 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 3: done at least four movies where it's only night shoots 503 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 3: with mostly night that's hard, like working the night shift. 504 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 3: But especially when man, I was I did this movie 505 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 3: John Wick two with Keanu Reeveson. It's like a lot 506 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 3: of action, right, Man, we're filming at night. Now they 507 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 3: ain came and got me for a minute. It's like 508 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 3: four in the morning. I didn't I'm trying to stay awake. 509 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 3: We got fighting scenes. So four in the morning you're 510 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 3: trying to like really be in tune and fight and 511 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 3: you know you done did, like y'all done, got like 512 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 3: two a month and a half worth to fight choreography 513 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 3: like long fights and you gotta be on point. It 514 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 3: just makes me appreciate the you know, the actors that 515 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 3: I do see out there, and you know, I appreciate 516 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 3: the work because I know it ain't always just easy 517 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 3: to film with it. You know, you standing outside of 518 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 3: the coat. If we was filming a movie out here 519 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 3: in Chicago and it was cold like it was, yeah, 520 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 3: and you got to act like it's fucking like close 521 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 3: to the summer up there and you can't put a 522 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 3: coat on, you still got to do the scene like 523 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 3: you cool. 524 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 1: That's that's you know, what's some of your favorite movies though? 525 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 4: Just in Room Coming to America. Yeah, that is my 526 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,679 Speaker 4: favorite love of all time. Eddie is the theme all 527 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 4: of my favorite movies literally, like not Yeah, Boomerang, all 528 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 4: of Nights Life, Eddie. 529 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: That's one. 530 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 3: That's one person I feel like we gotta continue to celebrate. 531 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 3: He got him and Martin him and they I mean 532 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 3: Eddie like Michael Jackson and he and Jord and like 533 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:30,679 Speaker 3: Eddie like. 534 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 1: Like Jordan. 535 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 3: He like Jordan, And I'm like, man, we gotta honor 536 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,439 Speaker 3: that while he hit. I mean not that he going nowhere, 537 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 3: God bless you, but I'm like acknowledged, Yeah, give him, 538 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 3: I love you said that. 539 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 2: That's what I'm like all almost all of Denzil. Whatever 540 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 2: he do be dope to me. And you know, I 541 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,880 Speaker 2: want to come back and just make dope movies. It's 542 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 2: Wesley Snipe's man. Come back and kind of do his 543 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 2: thing and get enough moving and do a dope bro. 544 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 1: Wait and he doing them coming to America too, that's 545 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: about to be epic. Yeah, what about y'all? I got that. 546 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:10,959 Speaker 1: I know y'all supposed to be interviewing. 547 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 3: Okay, what about when you first the first like NBA game, 548 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 3: is it like a super nervousness or like the first 549 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 3: time you step on the court and you're in the 550 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 3: NBA was it was it an anxiousness? 551 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 5: Like I had an anxiousness. 552 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 2: That's what I do nervous like when I got my 553 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,199 Speaker 2: mom used to tell me when you get butterflies or 554 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 2: you feel like you nervous, that's just you anxious. And 555 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 2: I used to day dream all day, like if I'm 556 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 2: we're playing at seven, I'm thinking about the game in 557 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,959 Speaker 2: my dreams. I'm just in a zone thinking about what 558 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 2: I'm finna do in this game. 559 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: So the nervous never come. 560 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 2: I turned it to anxiousness, and I turned that long 561 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 2: time ago. 562 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: Right, what you for me? 563 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 4: It was always there, like I had it last night. 564 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:02,400 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, that that's just who I am. Whenever it's 565 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 4: a game. I get it every time when I play 566 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,159 Speaker 4: in a Big three, that's every time it's a moment 567 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 4: or more than one moment. It's just like you know 568 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like before the game, you be like, 569 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 4: all right, like whatever. It is like an anxious feeling. 570 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 4: I know because I know I'm not scared. I did 571 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 4: it too many times. It's just like it's the same. 572 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 4: It's like riding by every single time. 573 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:17,679 Speaker 1: I got it. 574 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 5: Like I said, I got it last night. 575 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 4: I got there, I got in the locker room, got 576 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,479 Speaker 4: my jersey, I'm getting ready, and then I was feeling it. 577 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 5: You was that saying same, was that taking picsures and stuff. 578 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,479 Speaker 3: I was like, all right, I love that, man, I 579 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,400 Speaker 3: love I loved you because I definitely get it every 580 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 3: like before any show, man, you know, before you're doing 581 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,679 Speaker 3: O ward show, doing something, you just get that feeling it. 582 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 1: But that makes me know I love what I'm doing. 583 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 584 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,439 Speaker 3: It's a passion in in that because I get that 585 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,640 Speaker 3: little nervousness of what like you said, whatever you want 586 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 3: to call it, nervous, anxious, butterfly, I'm like, and then 587 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,640 Speaker 3: you get out there and it's it's all that's that's 588 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:52,919 Speaker 3: one of the best feelings to me. 589 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 1: But what would you say, y'all like playing a game? 590 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 3: What would be y'all? What would y'all use to inspire you? 591 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 3: Is it anything like you? What you do your own 592 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,199 Speaker 3: you know how I just was liken this poly santo. 593 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,360 Speaker 3: That's something I do. Like, was it anything y'all do? 594 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 3: Like ritual? 595 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:10,120 Speaker 1: Why or music? 596 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 2: Or what I think about my matchups? Like I said, 597 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 2: the whole day, I'm already into it with them and 598 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,159 Speaker 2: they don't even know I'm into it with them, you 599 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, especially like ones that I can 600 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 2: be a little bit more gritty with, like Rest in Peace. 601 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 2: Kobe was like, Kobe. 602 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 1: A got you can go in there and bowl and 603 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,679 Speaker 1: do all that stuff. It don't matter. He gonna do 604 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: what he does. 605 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 2: So you're wasting your time, So you might as well 606 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 2: think about your a game instead of trying to do 607 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 2: dirty stuff. 608 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 1: Or slick stuff. 609 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 3: But you're saying, so if certain cats you could bowl 610 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:44,640 Speaker 3: and they just not gonna. 611 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 2: Like Tim Duncan, You're not gonna get a reaction out 612 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 2: of him. He's not gonna the spacer express gonna stay 613 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 2: the same, He's. 614 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: Gonna do all the same. Well, we're gonna continue to 615 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 1: butt your head. 616 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 2: So you trying to talk to him and trying to 617 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,120 Speaker 2: get him out of their game, that's the wrong thing. 618 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 2: Your best better is just concentrate on what you doing, 619 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 2: like certain players like that you can, but then you 620 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 2: get the certain players that you can talk to, or 621 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 2: you can whistle too and bowl a little bit, or 622 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,919 Speaker 2: you know, your IQ a little bit smarter than is 623 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 2: so you can kind of make them, help them make mistakes. 624 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 625 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 3: But I ain't never think so the el bows and 626 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 3: stuff could take somebody out of the game. 627 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 1: I would do if I know. 628 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 2: If I know, you're gonna get mad at me and 629 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 2: I can frustrate you and get you a tech, I'm 630 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 2: gonna come down and bow you every time until you 631 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 2: push me in. I'm gonna flip on over real call 632 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 2: of tech and then you snapping on the rifts. 633 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:39,479 Speaker 1: Now you're out of it. You're a good It's not 634 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 1: just physical, it's a mind game. You gotta know this game. 635 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:44,159 Speaker 1: You gotta know the plays. 636 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 2: I was type of player that played all five positions, 637 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 2: so I had to know where everybody was at all times. 638 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 2: So with knowing that your IQ get up. 639 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 1: I didn't. 640 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 3: I didn't realize how much intelligence in mind game the 641 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 3: game is. I've been and like going to some games, 642 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 3: I'm listening to cats talking like on the court, saying 643 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 3: different thing like damn cats. Just really it's really like 644 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 3: does that start in high school or that like it 645 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:12,880 Speaker 3: start then? 646 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 4: Like with all of that, and especially here in Chicago, 647 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 4: have physical everything is you already know you got your 648 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,919 Speaker 4: gang members in the crowd trying to inspire you not 649 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 4: to do well, so you know, like then that's why 650 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 4: for me, that's where it manifested that playing in the 651 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,160 Speaker 4: Red West on the Chicago West Side and when you young, 652 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,639 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, that was the toughest public 653 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 4: league division. You know what I'm saying we could play 654 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 4: in and we didn't. We seen it all had locks 655 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 4: thrown on the court at us one time, all that 656 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 4: different stuff. So it's like, what you're gonna do exactly 657 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 4: Like I'm still about to go out here and give 658 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 4: it to y'all, and I'm gonna talk this trash because 659 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 4: if I don't, I'm more afraid it was'n gonna happen 660 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 4: if I don't than if I do like. If I 661 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 4: do like and then I go out here and put 662 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 4: this thing down on you ain't nothing. You could say, 663 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:54,479 Speaker 4: you just looking stupid and then you want to do 664 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 4: something after we'll have that. 665 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 5: Like you know what I'm saying, Like you if you 666 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 5: you already know, if you you our way. 667 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 4: It's over. They won, So you know you can't do that. 668 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 4: But that that definitely started for me grade school, high school. 669 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 3: Who was y'all saying, been one of the smartest players 670 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 3: y'all played against Kobe Cold God bless. 671 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: You know who was when we first got to a league. 672 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 2: That I was like, this, motherfucker is good John Stocktor 673 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 2: like he ain't used to do nothing special. He probably 674 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 2: had two more years left. He one running the fast 675 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 2: and nothing like. He was just smart history, He was 676 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 2: in the right position, He did things the right way. 677 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,959 Speaker 2: He knew everything, and he did everything right. He barely 678 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 2: made mistakes. That's them guys to be having them regards 679 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 2: of what the game is. He's just not turning the 680 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 2: ball over, you know, fucking up Cob was Coob was unbelievable. 681 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 4: It didn't get smarter than that, Like, well we had 682 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 4: him on the podcast. That man was answering questions smart, 683 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 4: like for real, like for real, the dude, hey man, 684 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 4: man was more prepared than anybody. He put the utmost 685 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 4: time and he respected it different than anybody I ever seen. 686 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like we all gonna go 687 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 4: out and hang out and do this and that. Nah 688 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 4: My man was locking hisself away in the gym getting 689 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 4: to the money. 690 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 5: Like just thinks about what he did. 691 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 4: We just talked about a little bit like he like 692 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 4: everybody like we all you did too? 693 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 5: You want to be like Mike? 694 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 4: Right, he came closer than anybody to literally mimicking that man. 695 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 4: You see the videos and stuff on the internet where 696 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 4: they got a split screen MJ going into the move, 697 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 4: Kobe going to it's the identical thing, like like that's 698 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like everybody I want to 699 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 4: be like when my game went like that though your 700 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 4: love Mike to death, everything but everybody gains go the 701 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 4: way they go? How yo game identical to this name? 702 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 4: If you covered up their face and all of this, 703 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 4: you would think it's the same person. The man walk 704 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 4: like them to gum like them, talk like them, and 705 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 4: what's cold like him? 706 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, man, was unbelievable. 707 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 3: And my guy was telling me that Cob was watching 708 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 3: a lot of Watch Come Fly with Me a lot. 709 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 3: But you know that mic movies just a lot that 710 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 3: he said that was his thing. 711 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 2: Most point guards Hall of Fame point Guards. The IQ 712 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 2: was like, Jason Kidd was dope to me when out 713 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 2: in the league. 714 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's smart playing. 715 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 4: I want I know what, I want to know? Who 716 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 4: do you like watching now? I mean, we all love 717 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 4: Lebron and Russell Westbrook. I don't want to talk about 718 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 4: the obvious, like the people. 719 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 5: That playing them. Everybody loved them. 720 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 4: But I'm like, out of these new young boys coming 721 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 4: up and some of the under the rate, I do 722 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 4: who who you like watching that? You be like, man, 723 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 4: this kid he could I like, wait, what are you 724 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 4: doing out there? 725 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 3: John Morant really showing me that young boy fresh? 726 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 1: That boy, I see him through some stuff. You know. 727 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 1: I like excitement too. You want to be. 728 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 3: Entertained on being attained, so and that's one of the 729 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 3: things I love about basketball, along with it being smart. 730 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: It's a skill and so it's really to me an 731 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 1: art form in a way. 732 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 3: But but John Morrant got that and then man he 733 00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 3: entertained man special. 734 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 1: He got that, he got that, he got that. 735 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 5: That boy hey, that boy go hey, he's special. 736 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 1: Boy. 737 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 5: He could do everything. 738 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 4: But like you say, he got that, he got that 739 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 4: bizaz ass well, like everything he do is too sweet. 740 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 4: That boy jumping in there, throwing passes and everything like, nah, 741 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 4: he got it. I rock with young boy heavy who. 742 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 1: Else y'all like that? 743 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 2: Like I think these last couple of these ten games 744 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 2: he done played twenty and eight. 745 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 1: That dude. Do you think has it ever been a 746 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 1: player like him? 747 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 4: Because I don't feel like that type of when when 748 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 4: you combine you know, size, way, athleticism and all those, 749 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 4: it's never been nobody like that. 750 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 5: Just leaving. 751 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 4: Now that boy leaves Earth called NASA Earth when he 752 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 4: take off for real. Then when he when he banged, 753 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 4: he earthquaking the red hen broke the rim last night. 754 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 4: I love he like, come on, dog, they didn't they 755 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 4: didn't reinforced and fixed all this stuff. It ain't supposed 756 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 4: to happen no more. 757 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's kind of crazy, you feel that dude. 758 00:32:55,320 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 4: Nineteen nineteen, I like I like Luca luc or something 759 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 4: we ain't seen before. I tell people all the time, 760 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 4: this is how you know this, How you know he 761 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 4: cold because you know us. His brothers were like, yeah, 762 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 4: the white boy coming up in here killing us, ain't 763 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 4: he killing? 764 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 1: Don't get this work? 765 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 4: Every day washing repeat boy, he out there talking bad 766 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 4: to him, whoever talking and watching. He swagged out young 767 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 4: boy especial boy. 768 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: He out there, He out there taking his time. 769 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 4: He ain't fast. And then I'm nice, I'm about to 770 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 4: create my separation. I'm about to get back. You're about 771 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 4: to do everything. 772 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 3: That's why I was wondering, man, because he moved. He 773 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 3: don't move fast, and that's just like, that's just another 774 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 3: type of skill. 775 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 5: Hunh. 776 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 4: He got a lot of that, Jane hardening them where 777 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 4: you see James Harden know how to use his body 778 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 4: and your role and bump you off. 779 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 5: And just think about it. 780 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 4: Every time you see Luca, he's getting by somebody. He 781 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 4: had separation for his shot, like he unbelievable. Don't look fast, 782 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 4: don't he ain't. 783 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 3: Gotta be I'm like, man, he getting pasted. He getting 784 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 3: past Jesus when you can do that. He only twenty two, though, 785 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 3: I think, right, yeah, only twenty this game is all 786 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 3: You're right as a young specialist. 787 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 5: Them three, them three, got them three. 788 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 4: They gonna they're gonna be a huge part of leading 789 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 4: the whole new generation. They're gonna be It's some other 790 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 4: ones in there, but they gonna be part of that 791 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,240 Speaker 4: the face of the league deal once everybody started chiming 792 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 4: out the old heads. 793 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 3: Okay, besides, like we know the three point thing, like 794 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,439 Speaker 3: you said, it's kind of position is not what would 795 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,440 Speaker 3: y'all say is the biggest difference from like when y'all 796 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 3: first was in the league to now, Like what you 797 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 3: notice is difference any. 798 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 2: How they compete, You know what I'm saying, because like, uh, 799 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 2: I think point guards position is big these days, but. 800 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 1: The rest of the positions is lacking. 801 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 2: Like you look at the pre we was looking at 802 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 2: the previous All Star Games and we was looking like 803 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 2: who was all on that All Star Game? 804 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 1: And it was like. 805 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 2: GP call Malone and starting. It's like Shaq Kobe Hall 806 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 2: of Fame. All Star games was full of Hall of Fame. 807 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 2: Like you look at all ten players, they were like 808 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 2: Hall of famers. But these days it's like some of 809 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 2: these cats might not make the Hall of Fame. You know, 810 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 2: it might be their first time going to All Star 811 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:10,799 Speaker 2: team or they might just go a few times. 812 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:11,839 Speaker 1: It's like a toss up. 813 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,360 Speaker 4: The biggest the biggest difference for me is just the 814 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 4: you know, the rules they make it it's more geared 815 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:20,839 Speaker 4: toward offense. It puts the defensive player at a disadvantage. 816 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:22,799 Speaker 4: You you used to be at a hand check and 817 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 4: things like you can't touch nobody, you can't do nothing. 818 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 4: You impeding progress. So it's like for the defender, you 819 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 4: had a handicap. And that's why you see a lot 820 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:33,799 Speaker 4: of points being put up on the board. And you know, 821 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:35,839 Speaker 4: we want to see points sports, so that's what that's 822 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 4: why it was done. 823 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:37,400 Speaker 5: It's exciting. 824 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 4: You speed the game up and that to me, that's 825 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 4: the biggest difference. 826 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 2: I like how you speak up on defenders and you've 827 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 2: never been to the defense. 828 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:47,279 Speaker 1: I love how you show us. 829 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 5: Look you remember doing that. 830 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 4: We did the video the song was go Yeah Brooklyn 831 00:35:55,840 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 4: Jordan brand Bush with me and that Yu and To 832 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:02,359 Speaker 4: we did that. We did the spot for like it 833 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:06,359 Speaker 4: was it was it was his song, but you had 834 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 4: hooked up with m J on the collaboration and like 835 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,359 Speaker 4: push out the love whatever line he was dropping. It 836 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 4: was the we was in the magazine and everything, all 837 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:15,760 Speaker 4: the kids on the brow. 838 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:17,919 Speaker 1: We did. 839 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 4: That was like I was like, I was like, we 840 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 4: going to one O six you debut video like that 841 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 4: was the whole thing. 842 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,479 Speaker 1: Like that was yeah. 843 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,239 Speaker 4: I was for the feature and I'm in the music 844 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:31,760 Speaker 4: video man rocking James. 845 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. That love like felt popular. 846 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 1: He was already popular. 847 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 2: One of my biggest highlights is you name dropping me? 848 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 3: You dropping me tapping your head like Darius ma. 849 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 2: I thought that was the dopest I love it, y'all. 850 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 2: I love when I just name dropped. Somebody just think 851 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 2: I'm dope. I want to play with the words of 852 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 2: my name. That's just a dope, dope feeling for for anybody. 853 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 3: But I was Geiche sat up and when I said that, 854 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 3: the cast that was producing it was like yeah, because 855 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:06,720 Speaker 3: we all love whoops. 856 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,279 Speaker 1: So it was like, and y'all was doing that. You know, 857 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 1: y'all was doing that thing everybody. I love it. 858 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 3: Y'all really ain't let nobody know what it was. But 859 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 3: that was just y'all thing, you know, and. 860 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 2: You know it created this show, Like I think it 861 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 2: was dope that we kept it under wraps even though 862 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 2: it didn't mean the craziest things, but just to play 863 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 2: on it. And I never thought like twenty years later, 864 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,840 Speaker 2: me and my man would be like sitting here interviewing 865 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,400 Speaker 2: people that we like, love and the fans of and 866 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 2: doing it all off something that we celebrated and the 867 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:39,840 Speaker 2: name of it. 868 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 1: You know what. 869 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 2: So this this is definitely a blessing and a dope feeling. 870 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,840 Speaker 2: You ever think common sense would be in the White 871 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 2: House playing with these words, spending lyrics and doing this 872 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:55,239 Speaker 2: thing right like the president president wife Like, bro, I. 873 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 3: Ain't gonna lie out your friend. That's my guy, man 874 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,440 Speaker 3: straight up. The first lady I really you know Michelle Obama. 875 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:07,840 Speaker 3: I respect to her a lot. She Yeah, she is 876 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:11,719 Speaker 3: from she is from the Yeah, that's right, clear the. 877 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 1: South side of the man. 878 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 3: The first time I saw something about Obama, my stepfather 879 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,239 Speaker 3: had a sign up in the window talking about I 880 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 3: ain't know who Obama was, But then I was like, 881 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,239 Speaker 3: I saw him as some of it. He came to 882 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 3: some of these hip hop summits that they used to have, 883 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,319 Speaker 3: So anyway, I got to know him a little bit, 884 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,400 Speaker 3: and then I put his name in a rap I 885 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:33,880 Speaker 3: claimed to be the first rapper. 886 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:35,960 Speaker 1: Obama name. 887 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,360 Speaker 3: I was on this Jadakiss remix of the song this 888 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 3: song called Why, and I put Obama's name there. So 889 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 3: anyway that we kind of started being a good brotherhood. 890 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,799 Speaker 3: And uh, I supported, you know, obviously his campaign. I 891 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,120 Speaker 3: was like out there trying to to speak on it. 892 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:55,239 Speaker 3: And man, to be invited to the White House was like, man, 893 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 3: we one time I was in the White House and 894 00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,320 Speaker 3: it was it was like he had a thing about 895 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,279 Speaker 3: he was trying to see some do some work with 896 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:10,799 Speaker 3: criminal justice reform. He had me Alicia Keys, Rick Ross, Chance, Jacole. 897 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,879 Speaker 3: I don't know if Cali was at Nicki Minaj. It was, Man, 898 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,280 Speaker 3: we all sitting around in the White House and I'm looking, 899 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:23,480 Speaker 3: I'm looking at this picture of like some white president 900 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,719 Speaker 3: that I was like, man, he is in no way 901 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,960 Speaker 3: he would want this many black ruggs sitting around in 902 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:30,720 Speaker 3: the White House. 903 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:36,080 Speaker 1: We're sitting in the White House. This wasn't gonna bet all. Yo. 904 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 3: When I got to experience that type of stuff, was like, man, 905 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:41,920 Speaker 3: thank you God, thank you, thank. 906 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:42,799 Speaker 1: You, thank you. 907 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 2: We proud proudly even to see that when we see that, 908 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 2: especially somebody that we admire and think just dope to 909 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,520 Speaker 2: just get them opportunities like that. It's it's definitely a 910 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,720 Speaker 2: blessing and dope within itself. 911 00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,040 Speaker 5: Man, we won't respect your time. 912 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,520 Speaker 1: Bro, We appreciate you got a little. 913 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,360 Speaker 4: We got some part and especially gain. We call this 914 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,200 Speaker 4: the black box. Yeah, the blackest one to create the 915 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:07,160 Speaker 4: black box. 916 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:09,520 Speaker 5: For you. 917 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:10,279 Speaker 1: You know I love that. 918 00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:15,360 Speaker 4: The hoodie too, then, you know that a special and 919 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 4: very special smiles. As far as our partners, you know 920 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:24,239 Speaker 4: they logo on yes, look ahead, good looking, I'm gonna 921 00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:25,879 Speaker 4: say this and drink this a good time. 922 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, man, you know I appreciate y'all. 923 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:31,960 Speaker 5: Man, respect, you got blessed y'all. Common in the building. 924 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:50,120 Speaker 1: Yack yack The Players Tribute dot Com