WEBVTT - When Will the Franchise Tag Be Signed? | Bucs Insider

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Buccaneers and Sideur Live presented by Miller like

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<v Speaker 1>case of Phillips and Scott Smith here. And we had

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<v Speaker 1>a week off last week, but we are back now

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<v Speaker 1>to talk all things Buccaneers, and we just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this is normally the time of year where there's not

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of going on anyways, whether they're there's COVID

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<v Speaker 1>or not. This is kind of the lull before the

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<v Speaker 1>storm normally anyway. So that's what I'm trying to tell

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<v Speaker 1>myself to just make it feel more normal and reasonable.

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<v Speaker 1>But it still feels like hopefully there is actually going

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<v Speaker 1>to be football coming soon. And I know that you

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<v Speaker 1>guys have probably tons of questions, So if you have

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<v Speaker 1>questions for us, go ahead and send them on the

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<v Speaker 1>underneath the live video and we'll get a chance to

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<v Speaker 1>go to as many of those questions as we can

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<v Speaker 1>as we get people a chance to start asking those. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>we know that the franchise tag is coming up. That's

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<v Speaker 1>one of the few sort of newsworthy things that does

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<v Speaker 1>happen this time of year, and and the deadline to

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<v Speaker 1>have that signed is coming up, so it's gotta want

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<v Speaker 1>to hear your thoughts on just overall how that might

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<v Speaker 1>affect the Buccaneers. What can we be expecting to see

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<v Speaker 1>in this next couple of weeks. Yeah, the deadline is, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess a week from today, and that's the deadline

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<v Speaker 1>for which you can actually sign a guy on the

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<v Speaker 1>franchise tag to a long term deal. So once that passes,

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<v Speaker 1>that really only two options are designed or two not

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<v Speaker 1>you know, to hold out. And I think Shack Barrett

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<v Speaker 1>has made it clear that he intends to play this season. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>his goal and probably the team's goal, would be to

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<v Speaker 1>have a longer term deal worked out. Um but at

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<v Speaker 1>the very least he should be playing on the franchise

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<v Speaker 1>tag and we'll know that within a week. And and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe the uncertainty of the landscape of not

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<v Speaker 1>just the NFL, but the entire world during all this

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<v Speaker 1>COVID stuff is contributing to him and a few other

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<v Speaker 1>guys not getting deals done that might have gotten done

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<v Speaker 1>in a more normal year. Um. But I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if it's good news or bad news. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just a deadline. It's it's something that we're gonna know

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<v Speaker 1>one way or another, which under type of contract check

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<v Speaker 1>Bear is playing for the Buccaneers is coming here. Unfortunately

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<v Speaker 1>he's also he's already made it clear that he intends

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<v Speaker 1>to play, so it's not really something that's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>making us. We're not nervous about it. I guess I

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<v Speaker 1>would say, okay, And I love this question already. This

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<v Speaker 1>is great. I think it's from one of our fans,

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<v Speaker 1>eleven year old daughters. Uh, she wanted to know who's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be the Diamond and the Reugh this year.

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<v Speaker 1>That she mentioned Shack last year and Adam Humphries the

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<v Speaker 1>year before that, so there's always someone. And apparently she

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<v Speaker 1>is quite good at baking and is offered, if you

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<v Speaker 1>get it right, if it is accurate, to have some

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<v Speaker 1>cookies made for you that include things like homemade rainbow cookies.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot writing on this. Well. First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a very sophisticated question for an eleven year old,

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<v Speaker 1>And what I want to know is just getting it right.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I get what she thinks the answer is,

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<v Speaker 1>or or I predict now and then that that player

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<v Speaker 1>have always both and it doubles your chances of getting cookies. Wow, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really nervous. Point can't I can't afford to get

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<v Speaker 1>this one wrong. Um uh boy. The problem for this

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<v Speaker 1>particular question this year is that the depth chart is

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<v Speaker 1>so set with with most of the guys you already know. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe Antoine Winfield. Is that fair? I mean he's a rookie. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not exactly the same situation. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>am I supposed to be picking somebody off of the

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<v Speaker 1>undrafted free agent list. I mean, Shaq wasn't an undrafted

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<v Speaker 1>free agent, So it sounds like it's just somebody that

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<v Speaker 1>ends up having an amazing year that nobody really knew

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<v Speaker 1>would be that. All right, how about I'll go with

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<v Speaker 1>Keyshawn varn then, because you know, the funny thing about

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<v Speaker 1>that pick is the a lot of the reaction to

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<v Speaker 1>that pick was when the Bucks didn't take a running

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<v Speaker 1>back in the second round, which many people expected. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna lie, I kind of thought we might do

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<v Speaker 1>that as well. And the way the running backs worked

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<v Speaker 1>out this year, it wasn't really top heavy, but there

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<v Speaker 1>were a lot of players that that um people expected

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<v Speaker 1>going late first mid the second round, and that that

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<v Speaker 1>did happen, and there were some guys that were bigger

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<v Speaker 1>names than Keisha and Vaughan that came off the board

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<v Speaker 1>around when the books picked, but they passed and went

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<v Speaker 1>with the safety who they clearly didn't want to pass

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<v Speaker 1>up on, and and they obviously did that believing they

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<v Speaker 1>could get the player they wanted in the third round.

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<v Speaker 1>And after that pick, when that sort of concept was

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<v Speaker 1>thrown at UM Jason light, his answer was, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>our board wasn't necessarily the same as everybody's. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>every the perception out there, whatever had been created by

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<v Speaker 1>UM analysts and so on over the course of the

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<v Speaker 1>lead up to the draft, was that there were certain

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<v Speaker 1>tears and that this guy was the best running back

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<v Speaker 1>and he was second, he was third, and so on.

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<v Speaker 1>And he said, you know, and it's true, because that's

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<v Speaker 1>not really the way it works out. I mean, Chris

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<v Speaker 1>Godwin was like the thirteenth receiver selected that year, and

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<v Speaker 1>obviously he's been probably the best receiver out of that class. See,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't necessarily just just because the Buccaneers passed on

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, the l s U running back instead

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<v Speaker 1>and went with Keisha von that doesn't mean they got

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<v Speaker 1>their second or third. I see what I'm saying, So

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<v Speaker 1>I think they they are a lot higher on Vaughan

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<v Speaker 1>than maybe the the pre draft rankings were. This is

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<v Speaker 1>my point. So, um, would it be would he fit

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<v Speaker 1>the the answer to this question if he ends up

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<v Speaker 1>getting the same or more yards and scrimmage than Ronald Jones?

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's possible. And I really want those cookies,

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<v Speaker 1>so I thop that's the case, um, And I think

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<v Speaker 1>that the path to that is him becoming the third

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<v Speaker 1>down back and catching a lot of passes. So maybe

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<v Speaker 1>getting five dred receiving yards and five D rushing yards

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<v Speaker 1>could put them there. Okay, I like that answer. I

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<v Speaker 1>like that answer. All right. Daniel said, is the team

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<v Speaker 1>looking for another edge rusher? And if so, maybe who

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<v Speaker 1>could be a possibility? You know, I've said that along

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<v Speaker 1>or at least last couple of months, and normally this

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<v Speaker 1>is the time of year where you'd have a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of little roster additions. You're sort of turning over the

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<v Speaker 1>eight six to nineties spots. Um, And as we've mentioned, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>Bruce arians made it clear that he and Jason Light

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<v Speaker 1>have made a point of not taking the roster all

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<v Speaker 1>way up to ninety three or four spots that are available.

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<v Speaker 1>Usually you would fill all of them because you have

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<v Speaker 1>teams on the field practicing and you want as many

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<v Speaker 1>players as you can get. But that's not really that

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<v Speaker 1>big of an issue this year, so they said they

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<v Speaker 1>were keeping those spots open for the possibility of signing

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<v Speaker 1>a veteran here there that could step right in for

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<v Speaker 1>one thing, and be able to play special teams. But

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<v Speaker 1>also that's something that could get into the mixed quickly

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<v Speaker 1>and learn the system quickly. And that's why they're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about a veteran. And he mentioned inside linebacker, outside linebacker,

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<v Speaker 1>in defensive line as three positions where you might do that.

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<v Speaker 1>And and it seems to me that veteran edge Russia

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<v Speaker 1>would make a lot of sense because after JPP and Shack,

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<v Speaker 1>you really don't have anybody at all that has much experience.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Anthony Nelson is probably the most experienced guy,

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<v Speaker 1>and he played about half a season as a rookie

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<v Speaker 1>did to injuries, So it would make a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>sense to me. You know, the big name that's still

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<v Speaker 1>out there is Clay Matthews. Um, I guess he could

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<v Speaker 1>make some sense, But there's also and I'm blanking on

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<v Speaker 1>his name the Giant, the player for the Giants who

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<v Speaker 1>used to be with Arizona and played for Bruce Arians. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's bothered me. They can't think of his name right now,

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<v Speaker 1>but he played for um Bruce Arians. The problem is

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<v Speaker 1>he might be demanding a little bit more of a

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<v Speaker 1>contract than the Buccaneers are looking at. You know, if

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to bring in a guy now with the

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<v Speaker 1>cap situation as it is, it's probably a mid tier

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<v Speaker 1>kind of guy. So I'm not it's exactly sure. Who

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<v Speaker 1>would be to me that would be the most obvious

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<v Speaker 1>position to make an addition for two? Okay, Um, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we we were talking about the idea of

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<v Speaker 1>this off season overall and how weird it is in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of trying to add new people not knowing what

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<v Speaker 1>all is going to happen, and um, it made me

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<v Speaker 1>want to hear for you, who are the people that

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<v Speaker 1>you think this is hardest for the way this off

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<v Speaker 1>season is going. You know the fact that we've missed

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<v Speaker 1>so many reps and guys are having to figure out

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<v Speaker 1>how to work out you know, in different places and

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<v Speaker 1>at home. Um, who are the either individual players or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe even are there certain position groups. It's harder on

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<v Speaker 1>just overall. Who does this affect more than others? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's harder on the undrafted free agents. And it's really

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<v Speaker 1>a shame for those guys. And and and we've talked

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<v Speaker 1>about it before. Even beyond that, if you remember how

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<v Speaker 1>an off season usually goes, You sign your undrafted free agents,

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<v Speaker 1>and you have your draft class, and then you have

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<v Speaker 1>a rookie mini camp about a week later, and you

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<v Speaker 1>fill out the roster for that camp with a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of players on trial contracts, And every single year, three

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<v Speaker 1>or four of those guys get signed, like Adam Humphreys,

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<v Speaker 1>who that a love year old fan brought up. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>every year you signed a couple of those guys and

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<v Speaker 1>you sort of turn over the bottom of the roster. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>how are those guys getting an opportunity at this point?

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<v Speaker 1>They may it Maybe that next year there's a double

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<v Speaker 1>load of guys like that, because if you're safe, you're

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<v Speaker 1>Adam Humphreys coming out of Clemson and you don't get

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<v Speaker 1>a shot this year, you still maybe probably bide your

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<v Speaker 1>time and try again next year, and then really a

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<v Speaker 1>whole another class, So there's gonna be a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>guys buy in for roster spots next year. But when

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<v Speaker 1>you get to even the guys that we did sign,

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<v Speaker 1>like a Michael Dvinity or Zach Shackelford or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>all those receivers from small schools or the quarterback where

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<v Speaker 1>you'd send it, they would have had some time now

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<v Speaker 1>already to sort of learn the system. And that's what

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<v Speaker 1>the off season is so good for for the rookies

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<v Speaker 1>is they don't know the system when they arrive here

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<v Speaker 1>like the returning players do, so to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>do well in training camp to already have that base

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<v Speaker 1>from the off season is very helpful for them. And

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<v Speaker 1>they don't have that. And I think it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>very difficult for undrafted free agents to make teams this year,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's a shame. But I hope that it's just

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<v Speaker 1>a dream deferred that they, you know, get their chance

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<v Speaker 1>in years to come. Yeah, that's a good point. Um. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we had Richard say that it's his birthday and he

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to shout out, so there's a birthday shout out, um,

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<v Speaker 1>And we all said, Joseph, Rap, do you think the

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<v Speaker 1>old line will be better than last year? Yeah? I

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<v Speaker 1>think so. Um, you know, I don't wanna. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to disparage DeMar Dotson by saying that, because he's

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<v Speaker 1>been a great Buccaneer for the last decade and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he goes down as one of the Buck greats.

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<v Speaker 1>But um, you know, DeMar Dotson was the elder statesman

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<v Speaker 1>on that team, and now you replace him with a

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<v Speaker 1>all or twenty two whatever. Tristan Worst is rookie, um

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<v Speaker 1>who's impressively athletic, and uh, you know, a first round

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<v Speaker 1>draft pick, a highly coveted guy. I think you have

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<v Speaker 1>a chance to have a real impact player there a

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<v Speaker 1>right tackle. Uh. And then Alex Kappa. The coaches were

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<v Speaker 1>very pleased with what he did last year, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was his first year as a starter, and I expect

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<v Speaker 1>him to be even better. So that's good obviously. And

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<v Speaker 1>and you also have I think the depth is pretty good,

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<v Speaker 1>at least at the tackle. Maybe maybe they need a

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<v Speaker 1>little more depth of you know, in the interior lines.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe somebody like the rookie I just mentioned mentioned Zach Shackleford,

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<v Speaker 1>steps up. But the tackle depth is nice because presuming

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<v Speaker 1>Tristan Worse wins that starting job, you signed Joe hag

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<v Speaker 1>in the off season, and that's a you know, at

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<v Speaker 1>the very least, he's a very nice swing tackle guy

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<v Speaker 1>with starting experience. So, UM, I think it will be

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<v Speaker 1>better incrementally. Um, you know, maybe not a huge step forward,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, I think it'll be better. Ryan asked, you

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<v Speaker 1>think they're going after a veteran running back, not not

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<v Speaker 1>a not a big name guy. I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, people want to us, want to connect us

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<v Speaker 1>with Davante Freeman. There was all those rumors. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>even rumors, it was just you know, Bruce arians answered

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<v Speaker 1>a question with Davante's name in it, and that became

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of stories of back and forth. But I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think if you signed a guy like Davante Freeman,

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<v Speaker 1>I would assume he comes in as your number one guy.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I think they like Ronald Jones and Keyshawn Vaughan,

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<v Speaker 1>so you wouldn't bring in a guy that's going to

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<v Speaker 1>take away their snaps. I wouldn't think. So if there

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<v Speaker 1>is a running back that signed, I would think it'd

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<v Speaker 1>be more of a depth side. Okay. Um, and I

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<v Speaker 1>also we had a question about wide receivers specifically, um

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<v Speaker 1>that that they're a group that I think we've typically

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<v Speaker 1>in recent years have been really struggling to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>figure out where the cutoff would be on who's making

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<v Speaker 1>the team and not there'd be a lot of guys

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<v Speaker 1>kind of all vying for some of those same spots.

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<v Speaker 1>This year it feels more like you haven't. You have

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<v Speaker 1>Mike and Chris, you know, that's an area all on

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<v Speaker 1>their own. And then after that there's a lot up

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<v Speaker 1>in the air and a lot of interesting potential editions

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<v Speaker 1>through the draft or undrafted guys, and then people like

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<v Speaker 1>Justin Watson and Scotty Miller who are coming back. So

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<v Speaker 1>where would you say that group is gonna fall? You mean,

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<v Speaker 1>how many were gonna keep or yeah? And who could

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<v Speaker 1>potentially have the chance to to lock up some of

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<v Speaker 1>those spots. And is that an area where you mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>how hard it might be for some of these rookies

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<v Speaker 1>to prove themselves. Is that an area a spot for them? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>The good thing about receiver, though, is even if you

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<v Speaker 1>don't really know the system all that well, like I

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<v Speaker 1>was just talking about, you can come in and one

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<v Speaker 1>on ones and sort of impress with your ability to

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<v Speaker 1>run routes and create separation and and you can show

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the things that receiver needs to do

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<v Speaker 1>in order to make the roster, maybe not enough to

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<v Speaker 1>carve out any kind of significant role, but enough to

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<v Speaker 1>make the roster or get a practice squad spot. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I gout that I think is worth thinking about this

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<v Speaker 1>year is Scotty Miller. Um. You know, he got a

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<v Speaker 1>chance to play a little bit, played a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more in the second half before he got that final

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<v Speaker 1>hamstring injury, showed some big ability. And you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>saw last year that even when Brushope Perriman was playing

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<v Speaker 1>well in the first half of the season, coaches said

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<v Speaker 1>that every single week because they were being asked about

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<v Speaker 1>him and his lack of catches and targets, and they said,

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<v Speaker 1>he's doing everything we wanted to do. It's just that

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<v Speaker 1>there's only so many balls to go around. When you

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<v Speaker 1>have Mike Evans and Chris Godwin, you know who's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>They're gonna get the majority of the targets. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's still gonna be the case this year. And then

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<v Speaker 1>you also have the fact that the tight end position

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<v Speaker 1>is loaded and with Tom Brady, you kind of expect

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<v Speaker 1>him to make big use out of a running back.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe that's Keyshawn Vaughn. So again, there's only so many

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<v Speaker 1>targets to go around, and I think you could have

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<v Speaker 1>a third receiver who's playing very well but not necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>having a huge number of targets. But if you could

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<v Speaker 1>have that guy being a speedy guy who maybe when

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Gobbin goes into the slot, can take the top

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<v Speaker 1>off the defense and make the occasional big play, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a very useful thing, you know. You know, we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about Brushode Perriman not having a lot of stats in

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<v Speaker 1>the first half or even a little more than half

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<v Speaker 1>of last season, but the Buccaneers were still playing eleven

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<v Speaker 1>personnel with three receivers on the field about fifty eight

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<v Speaker 1>percent of the time. So that third receiver, even if

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<v Speaker 1>he's not getting a lot of stats, is on the

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<v Speaker 1>field all the time. So you want that player to

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<v Speaker 1>be an effective guy who runs routes well and actually

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<v Speaker 1>scares the opposing defense enough that they don't, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that they have to cover him and create more more

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<v Speaker 1>space for Chris Evans, Chris Godwin and Mike Evans. So, um,

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<v Speaker 1>that guy could be Scottie Miller. I think we're all

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<v Speaker 1>excited about Tyler Johnson what he could do, but I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to forget about Scotty. Yeah, that's a great point. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's gonna do it for us on this edition

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<v Speaker 1>of Buccaneers Insider Live presented by Miller Lte. Thanks to

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<v Speaker 1>all of you guys for the questions and for joining in,

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<v Speaker 1>and we will see you next week.