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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: This is up on Game.

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Speaker 1: Cock Bye Hushbinzada for the touchdown.

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Speaker 2: You want that NFL experience, watch it. LeVar early two

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Speaker 2: that this is the show for you with LaVar Arington.

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Speaker 3: Matt Carral could possibly play himself into the starting job,

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Speaker 3: TJ Houshman Zanna.

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Speaker 1: Leave those first round, Michae mccock's out of it, and

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Speaker 1: Plexico Burres Tom Brady's no longer there. Turned into a

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Speaker 1: dictatorship up there.

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Speaker 2: Newe three. I'm the best to ever do it on

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Speaker 2: and off the field. Live from the Fox Sports Radio studio.

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Speaker 2: Here's pro bowlers LaVar Arrington, TJ. Hushman Zanna, and Super

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Speaker 2: Bowl champion Lexico Burres.

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Speaker 4: How are you trying to go?

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Speaker 1: Hunt?

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Speaker 4: Now?

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Speaker 1: All right?

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Speaker 3: All right, welcome into hour two of this wonderful program.

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Speaker 1: It is up on game This is Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: I'm LeVar Arrington alongside my guy Stretch Armstrong himself, Plexico Burus, TJ.

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Speaker 3: Hushman Zade joined us in our one from the NFL

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Speaker 3: Combine in Indianapolis, Indiana. If you missed any of that,

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Speaker 3: don't even worry about it. You could check it out

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Speaker 3: on the podcast wherever it is you get yours from

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Speaker 3: search up on game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: TJ's doing this thing talking to the youth. Had had

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Speaker 3: some great conversations. So it's interesting because you think about

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Speaker 3: all these things that take place at the Combine and

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Speaker 3: the different prospects that come through. And one of the

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Speaker 3: things I can recall from our from our time going

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Speaker 3: to the Combine and going to the symposium is I

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Speaker 3: remember Ronnie Lot challenging us in the stands at the

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Speaker 3: symposium about knowing the history of the game and your

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Speaker 3: He pooled him and Marcus Island. We're on stage. He

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Speaker 3: put the chairs together and he started doing his backpedal

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Speaker 3: that he to do in his living room when he

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Speaker 3: watched TV, like the things that guys do to be great.

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Speaker 3: You know, sometimes if you're not paying attention you mentioned

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Speaker 3: rocket Ishmael, you know, people.

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Speaker 1: Be like who, like who is that?

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Speaker 5: Like?

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Speaker 1: What's that? Man? Let me tell you. So it's about

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Speaker 1: knowing the history of the game, right, Yeah, no doubt

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Speaker 1: about it, man.

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Speaker 3: So that leads me to my point. This week's legendary

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Speaker 3: moment was a breath of fresh air for me. Plexico

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Speaker 3: Las Vegas Raiders great, I mean aspiring great. He's definitely

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Speaker 3: on the road to great. Has proven great. Listen to

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Speaker 3: what Max Crosby had to say in terms of his

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Speaker 3: approach and how he wants to be viewed, and and

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Speaker 3: and just his feelings on the history of the game.

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Speaker 1: This week's up on game Legendary Moment.

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Speaker 2: Game Present Conversations with a legend and now this is

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Speaker 2: your legendary moment.

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Speaker 1: Where does your style of play? Where does that come from? Man?

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Speaker 1: Because it's old school style, like we could have played together,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Where does that? Where does

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Speaker 5: Honestly, it's just it's a love and respect for the

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Speaker 5: history of the game. I mean, you don't hear that

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Speaker 5: have some of these young guys, you're like, who's all

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Speaker 1: And they don't have no idea.

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Speaker 5: You know, I was there broke to name them up.

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Speaker 5: So you know, for me, like I come. You know,

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Speaker 5: I grew up watching Pittsburgh Steelers versus the Ravens and

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Speaker 3: I mean, you're being talked about and you're on a

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Speaker 3: legendary status, my guy.

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Speaker 1: But I hear what you're saying.

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Speaker 5: I got work to do, yees, sir, I got a

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Speaker 5: So for me playing as many snaps as I do,

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Speaker 3: Play that is a that is a dying breed. That's

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Speaker 3: I don't meet very many young guys, and I'm around

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Speaker 3: He's around y'all and that becomes second nature to him

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Speaker 3: For me was ultimately based off of knowing the history

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Speaker 1: You know what?

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Speaker 6: Man? I had an opportunity to sit down with Max

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Speaker 6: I'm dead serious. And that is the way he approaches

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Speaker 6: And just going back to the history of the game,

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Speaker 6: And I say everybody. I grew up in Virginia Beach, Virginia.

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Speaker 6: And that is when I started to really follow the

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Speaker 1: To go throw Greg Lloyd out there because.

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Speaker 3: Greg sure enough was watching, hell sure enough was Kevin

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Speaker 6: The opportunity to step on the field and play against

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Speaker 1: Man, I was sitting in my house watching this.

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Speaker 3: Man, bro I was in a locker room with Daryl

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Speaker 7: that's Daryl Green's like, and you got to be you

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Speaker 1: It's gold time.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 4: Man, Fellas, I was sitting outside right like I almost

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Speaker 4: Talk to me, cuffs, KG. KG was wrong for that, Like, wow,

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Speaker 1: Of your heart.

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Speaker 4: That's what I would say to those guys. You should

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Speaker 1: It because it ain't because of the fun juice.

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Speaker 6: Right all right, man, listen.

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Speaker 6: Man, this is a real I believe, I believe, I

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Speaker 6: But you have to take into account he is speaking

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Speaker 6: and it's always going to be some animosity with that.

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Speaker 6: But I believe that that is what he's trying to

440
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Speaker 6: get across and get off his chest.

441
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Speaker 1: He's not disrespecting him.

442
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Speaker 6: But we can all agree that the nineties, in the

443
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 6: early two thousand two, twenty ten, it was a different

444
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 6: brand of basketball.

445
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was body it was bodybuilder of basketball. Like,

446
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 4: no disrespect of those guys. Oakley and you know, Antonio

447
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:39,360
Speaker 4: Davis and Dale Davis'. Those guys weren't particularly skilled like that.

448
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,959
Speaker 4: There were goons. They was out there to, you know,

449
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 4: give guys the forearms shiver. They were out there to

450
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Speaker 4: like enforce. We have lost the art of enforcers in

451
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Speaker 4: the NBA. I agree to that standpoint, but I think

452
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Speaker 4: those guys like Rick Mahorn, they wouldn't have been able

453
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Speaker 4: to do anything with Lebron. They're actually lucky Lebron didn't

454
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Speaker 4: play in their era because his numbers would probably be.

455
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Speaker 4: He's about to get forty either.

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Speaker 1: Come on, cuffs.

457
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Speaker 6: I'm on cuffs, Come on cuffs, because you don't do that?

458
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Speaker 6: Are you? Are you still sitting outside or sitting inside

459
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Speaker 6: the house.

460
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Speaker 4: I'm in the house.

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Speaker 1: Now, Come on, all right, you lost your mind? Go

462
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Speaker 1: back outside.

463
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Speaker 3: Whatever whatever that is in your hand right now as ship,

464
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Speaker 3: put it in the as straight and put it down

465
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Speaker 3: until we finish this segment. My guy, come on, won't

466
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Speaker 3: you do that?

467
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Speaker 6: Wait, we're not hey, listen, we're not saying that Rick

468
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Speaker 6: Mahorn could guard Lebron Jane nobody.

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Speaker 1: But what we're saying.

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Speaker 6: What we're saying it when he came through that paint,

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Speaker 6: you know, Jamal but glorys in the Rashee Wallace and

472
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Speaker 6: all those guys. He not just coming in there and

473
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Speaker 6: laying the basketball up. It's gonna be a form to

474
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Speaker 6: the chest.

475
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Speaker 4: When this show is over, go on YouTube and search

476
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Speaker 4: Lebron James Rashee Wallace. That's one of his biggest victims.

477
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Speaker 1: Dunk on, dunking on.

478
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Speaker 3: Somebody want one time or get posterized like y'all act

479
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Speaker 3: like that.

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Speaker 1: Didn't happen, Like y'all like that didn't happen. Back in

481
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Speaker 1: the day.

482
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Speaker 3: Man like guys get posterized all the time. John Stark's

483
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 3: posterized MJ like it happens.

484
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Speaker 1: That don't mean anything.

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Speaker 3: The bottom line is is why does new age coverage

486
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Speaker 3: and new age athletes and new age people. It's one

487
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Speaker 3: thing to say, oh, Lebron James is the greatest of

488
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Speaker 3: all time.

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Speaker 1: You can fall on that side.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of information that would support somebody saying

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Speaker 3: that I have no problem with that. While I disagree,

492
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Speaker 3: I have no problem with it. But when people start discrediting, like, oh,

493
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Speaker 3: well the skill wasn't there, this, that, and the other.

494
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Speaker 3: Let me tell you something. Rick Mahorn would have been

495
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Speaker 3: Bill Lambert with no athletic ability, Kurt Rambis, guys like

496
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Speaker 3: Ac Green.

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Speaker 1: They would have body dudes like.

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Speaker 3: Wom Been Yama and all this to all, he's going

499
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Speaker 3: to take them out outside.

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Speaker 1: He might take him outside.

501
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 3: But you know what, that man has five fouls to

502
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Speaker 3: give and he's gonna They're going to give them to you.

503
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Speaker 1: They don't need to be.

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Speaker 3: As skilled as a Victor Winbin Yama or Lebron James.

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Speaker 1: They're going to beat you up.

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00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 3: Why are y'all discrediting the fact that dudes did what

507
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 3: their roles were back in the day. The skilled guys

508
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:27,639
Speaker 3: were skilled, the shooters were shooters, and the scorers were scores.

509
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Speaker 3: And there were some guys that transcended that. And the

510
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Speaker 3: one that transcended it the most we all know it

511
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Speaker 3: was Michael Jordan's.

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Speaker 1: So I don't want to turn this into.

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Speaker 3: A comparison conversation, but the bottom line is Lebron would

514
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 3: have got his ass hacked just as bad as any

515
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Speaker 3: other player that had talent that was driving. Let me

516
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Speaker 3: ask you this, Let me ask you this, cuffs, let

517
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 3: me ask you, this is Lebron James living on the

518
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Speaker 3: on the perimeter with his game throughout his entire care

519
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,679
Speaker 3: Was he living on the outside like Steph Curry.

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00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 4: Now, Lebron isn't. No, He's been a downhill.

521
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Speaker 3: Driver exactly So, so the idea of thinking that Lebron

522
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Speaker 3: wouldn't get banged up when he went down.

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Speaker 1: I go as far as to say, with Parrish and

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Speaker 1: McHale and all them, it's slow and as as.

525
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Speaker 3: Non athletic as they look, they would have beat him up.

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Speaker 1: The Detroit Pistons would have beat him up. That's the

527
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Speaker 1: bottom line.

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Speaker 4: Robert Parrish was like seven foot two fifty, like it

529
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Speaker 4: would have been a bad day man, Like I feel

530
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Speaker 4: like it.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, we know you're a Laquor fan.

532
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 3: You ain't got to be big to punch somebody upside

533
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Speaker 3: the head.

534
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Speaker 1: That seventh foot man, he would have been bullying.

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Speaker 6: Lebron would have came in the hole, an older stut

536
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Speaker 6: would have hit him, would have full to the chest.

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Speaker 1: And he had muscles too, by the way, muscles.

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Speaker 3: So all right, so you don't think there's anything to

539
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 3: this whole thing that that KG was alluding to that

540
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 3: he might be Lebron might be juicing and that's why

541
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Speaker 3: he's able to still be good.

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Speaker 1: That you're putting that for you, you're putting that to bed.

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00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, heck no. Like Lebron puts more to He puts

544
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 4: more training, He eats well, he take care of his body,

545
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 4: hyperbaric chamber. Man. That guy is in the gym.

546
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 3: Every day, like they say, he spends over like what

547
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 3: a million two million in his body. I started thinking

548
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 3: to myself, if you have a line item of two

549
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 3: point one million and build and taking care of your

550
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Speaker 3: body yearly, what is that? Like, what does that consist of?

551
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Speaker 3: Like that's a lot of money.

552
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Speaker 4: Though, like, keep it real with you, Lebron, keep it real.

553
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Speaker 4: His trainer Mike man see is is like a real

554
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 4: life Missing Miyagi man. Like a lot of people don't

555
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 4: understand how much work why you juice? Yeah, from the

556
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 4: puts in a lot of work. He puts in a

557
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Speaker 4: lot of work. He's a lot of flyabiling, a.

558
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 3: Lot of a stuff that ain't two point one million dollars,

559
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 3: cuffs that ain't two point one million cuffs.

560
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 4: Keeping your hip blues, keeping your hip selector. Brady showed

561
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 4: us this man. Tom Brady showed us about flyout guilty,

562
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Speaker 4: eating your avocado.

563
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Speaker 6: So that Bill Romanowski, Alvacola tequila all that. So hey,

564
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Speaker 6: since wrists, since we're talking about the Lakers, I mean,

565
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Speaker 6: let's continue about they said the Lakers on the wind streak.

566
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Speaker 6: Lebron have to be his comebacks of his of his

567
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Speaker 6: career each other day against the Cleveland, against the Clippers.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what's the state of the Laker nation right now?

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Speaker 4: The Lakers are nine and three in the last twelve,

570
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Speaker 4: Like they really playing good right now. The spirit of

571
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Speaker 4: the team is good. Everything out hear, like the lockers

572
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 4: room is great right now. But tonight is the night

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Speaker 4: to be honest Lakers.

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Speaker 1: Versus Oh yeah, Denver, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, It's in La tonight at Crypto yep. And here

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Speaker 4: here's the thing. The Lakers have lost seven in a

577
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Speaker 4: row to Denver. They can't beat these guys, including the playoffs.

578
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Speaker 4: They haven't beat these guys the last seven times they

579
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Speaker 4: face them. They are overdue for win, I feel like,

580
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Speaker 4: but I would say tonight is the Di'angelo Russell game

581
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Speaker 4: for me. Tonight is the spotlight for me. Tonight is

582
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Speaker 4: on Di'angelo Russell because he struggled against the Nuggets in

583
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Speaker 4: the series Western Conference Finals series last year. And even

584
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Speaker 4: though Jamal Murray is injured right now, he's probably not

585
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 4: going to play tonight. I think he heard his ankle

586
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 4: the other night. But I still need to see d

587
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 4: LO show up. Man. The fan base has been real

588
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 4: critical of d LO this year, even though he didn't

589
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 4: he may.

590
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Speaker 1: Youadline and yourself and TJL rightfully so.

591
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 4: And my thing with d LO when I say he don't,

592
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 4: he won't fool me. I want to see him flourish,

593
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 4: like I want to see him have twenty eight tonight

594
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 4: eleven assists. But I haven't seen him show up against

595
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 4: these type elite teams. He does it against the Pistons,

596
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 4: he does it against the Blazers, he does it against

597
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 4: these lowly teams, these easy teams in the standards. But

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Speaker 4: the night is the night. If he shows up tonight,

599
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Speaker 4: I would be the first person to give him all

600
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Speaker 4: his flowers. But you got to do it on the

601
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 4: big stage. And also, Anthony Davis, he needs to get

602
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 4: his lick back tonight against Yokish tonight, Anthony.

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00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: It's gonna ad It's not gonna happen.

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Speaker 6: Listen, I'm gonna just I'm gonna pig it back off

605
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Speaker 6: of what I said last week, and you disagreed with

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Speaker 6: me after you know, I'm watching the dig Denver Nuggets

607
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Speaker 6: from a fall Obviously, I'm on the East Coast. I

608
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 6: have to stay up late to watch these basketball. Yeah

609
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 6: they're good, They're right. So I'm gonna say what I

610
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Speaker 6: said last week.

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Speaker 1: They're good.

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Speaker 6: Minnesota Timberwolves, the Denver Nuggets, Uh okay. See, I don't

613
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Speaker 6: care who you put out there and a seven game series.

614
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 6: Right now, nobody in the Western Conference is going to

615
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Speaker 6: beat the Denver Nuggets. They are going to win the

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Speaker 6: World Championship.

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Speaker 1: Again.

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Speaker 4: I agree I agree to an extent. I agree to

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Speaker 4: an extent. Plant like, I agree that the altitude is

620
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Speaker 4: gonna play a factor and it's gonna be very, very

621
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Speaker 4: very difficult to beat those guys for out of seven games.

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Speaker 6: Right now, everybody is talking about now joker is the

623
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Speaker 6: joker him Jamal Mud the Joker have the one of

624
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 6: the best pick and roll game in basketball one two player.

625
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Speaker 6: And now everybody's talking about the altitude of the Denver

626
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Speaker 6: Nuggets playing in Denver and now these years ago, come on, man,

627
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 6: stop that.

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00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 4: The reason why they're talking about the altitude because they

630
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Speaker 4: play at the pace that they play. This is an

631
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Speaker 4: up tempo team. Those old different Nugget teams, like the

632
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 4: Carmellow teams, they were good too when teams used to

633
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 4: struggle playing mellow in those guys in the altitude, but

634
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 4: they play a up tempo style. That's why I said

635
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Speaker 4: the Lakers got to come out tonight and match that

636
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 4: energy because Denver has been getting off the fast starts

637
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 4: against the Lakers and they've been in a hole trying

638
00:33:58,440 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 4: to dig them out.

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Speaker 6: Man, listen, I didn't play no basketball. I ain't played

640
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 6: on NBA. I don't played on I don't played.

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Speaker 1: It ain't stopped. Kick ass shame say this.

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Speaker 4: Let me say that I agree. I agree with you

643
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Speaker 4: because I think we're going to see if I had

644
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 4: to bet right now the NBA Finals. Right now, we're

645
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 4: gonna get Nuggets and Celtics. We got to show Celtics

646
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 4: from love right quick. But Celtics have won ten in

647
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 4: a row. Man and christ Porzingis right now, I feel

648
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 4: like here is the reason why we already know Tatum

649
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 4: and Brown are like one of the one top two

650
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 4: or three duos in the league. But I get that

651
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 4: Man port Zingis is not getting enough credit. He's started

652
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,919
Speaker 4: all forty four games this season, and he's always been

653
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,399
Speaker 4: criticized and everybody call him, you know, injury riddle guy.

654
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 4: He's always had injury issues, but this year he started

655
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Speaker 4: forty four games, averaging twenty and seven. Is a third

656
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Speaker 4: option and some nights Porzingis is the first option for

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Speaker 4: Bosses football. And that's spacing. That's spacing that he provides.

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Speaker 4: It's allowed even Derek White to flourish Drew all day,

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Speaker 4: Like everybody on that offense is clicking and eating.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 4: So I would say if I was a bet man,

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Speaker 4: we might get a much better NBA Finals than we

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Speaker 4: got last year, you know, nugging the heat. It wasn't

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Speaker 4: it was a lackluster finals. They had a rematch the

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Speaker 4: other night. Nobody even talked about their cares. So if

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Speaker 4: I can bet right now, I would say Celtic nugget

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Speaker 4: and that's an intriguing matchup all across the board. Those

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Speaker 4: are the two best starting fives in the NBA in

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Speaker 4: my opinion.

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Speaker 3: All right, that's our resident expert. He is the man.

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Speaker 3: He does his thing. You can catch him on the

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Speaker 3: some dude show up on Game Network. You can also

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Speaker 3: catch him on cuffs, the legend on the ig cuffs.

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Speaker 3: We appreciate you coming on man. You always bring it strong, bro.

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Speaker 3: And while we may have given you a hard time

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Speaker 3: about the take on old school players not being able

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Speaker 3: to deal with, we will let you go in peace,

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Speaker 3: my god, We do appreciate you coming.

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Speaker 4: On ya quick quick. One question for Plaque. Who's the

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Speaker 4: best receiver in the NFL draft?

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Speaker 1: Coming up? The Marta Herison, JUNI, I want to hear

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Speaker 1: it from you man.

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Speaker 4: You played the position.

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Speaker 1: I just want to hear from you real quick. Yep.

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Speaker 1: Marven Hereson Jr. All Right, that's couch the legend.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna take a quick break, but on the other

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Speaker 3: side of the break, we're gonna wrap it up with

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Speaker 3: intentional grounding to ground or not to ground? That is

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Speaker 3: the question. This is Up on Game. That is Plexico Burds.

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Speaker 3: I'm LeVar Arrington. TJ is off. He's in uh Indianapolis

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Speaker 3: at the Combine, so he's not really off.

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Speaker 1: He's working, but he's not on right now. So we're

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Speaker 1: gonna wrap it up. On the other side of this breaker,

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Speaker 1: it's Fox Sports Radio, rh.

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Speaker 3: Benzy Online my step Fields Wing must be the money.

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Speaker 1: Hey, welcome back in. This is up on Game.

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Speaker 3: We are live from the Tirack dot Com studios. It's

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Speaker 3: Plexico Burds. It's LaVar Arrington. TJ's in Naptown doing the Combine.

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Speaker 3: It's been a great show. If you missed it, don't worry.

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Speaker 3: us on IG. Twitter's LeVar Arrington. It's it's also Plexico Burgs.

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Speaker 3: Great great lineup of shows. We got Jonas Knox coming

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Speaker 3: on next so you'll be able to enjoy hearing him.

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Speaker 3: But before we wrap it up, plex, I wanted to

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Speaker 3: throw this one out at you.

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Speaker 1: The League of you know.

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Speaker 3: The Competition Committee, they're expected to propose a change to

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Speaker 3: the grounding rule.

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Speaker 1: The grounding rule.

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Speaker 3: Is based upon well, there were fifty nine intentional grounding

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Speaker 3: calls in twenty twenty three, two drives that featured a

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Speaker 3: intentional grounding call ending with a touchdown.

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Speaker 1: That's not good math at all.

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Speaker 3: And it just now seems as though it's getting more

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Speaker 3: and more agree just they are now proposing that the

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Speaker 3: ball only has to make it to the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 3: There doesn't have to be an intended receiver that's there.

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Speaker 3: They just have to make sure the ball gets back

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Speaker 3: to the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 1: To me, as a defender, it's disheartening.

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Speaker 3: It's upsetting, and it makes you wonder at what point

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Speaker 3: in time do you hold Because to me, if you're

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Speaker 3: saying the most important player on the field is the quarterback,

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Speaker 3: and they get all the money, and they get all

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Speaker 3: the hype, and they get all the attention, and they

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Speaker 3: get all the blame. Everything goes their way to whom

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Speaker 3: much is given, much is required. That's kind of in

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Speaker 3: the Bible, is just what it says. Why are you

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Speaker 3: making it easier for them to do their job when

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Speaker 3: it should be a higher level of accountability because it's

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Speaker 3: the most important position on the field. I don't like it.

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Speaker 3: Your sacks are going to go down. You know, you're

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Speaker 3: not going to be able to get to the quarterback

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Speaker 3: because all they got to do is throw the ball

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Speaker 3: back to the line of scrimmage and the play is dead.

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Speaker 1: I don't like it at all, pleas.

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Speaker 6: I mean, wow, I'm just digesting all this information that

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Speaker 6: is just dumped on me, and I'm thinking of, you know,

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Speaker 6: the edge rushers and the Mets cruses and the bosas

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Speaker 6: and Aaron Donald's and you know what, you guys. The

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Speaker 6: effort and the energy that you guys give out on

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Speaker 6: every single play to get to the quarterback and all

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Speaker 6: he has to do is throw it to the line

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Speaker 6: of scrimmage. Is It's like disheartening. I mean it is,

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Speaker 6: I mean from a defense and other offensive guy. But

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Speaker 6: I do understand. You know this game and what the

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Speaker 6: level of you know what it takes to get to

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Speaker 6: get to the quarterback and get a sack. And now

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Speaker 6: if you're a defensive coordinator, you have to actually, uh

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Speaker 6: you know, scheme for this because now this becomes something

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Speaker 6: that the offense can use.

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Speaker 1: To their advantage.

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Speaker 6: So if your office court, then you know what, if

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Speaker 6: this doesn't happen, just put it in a dirt, right,

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Speaker 6: so now you know what we're gonna live for the

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Speaker 6: next play. Instead of instead of a guy getting the

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Speaker 6: sack going second and sixteen or save to seventeen, they

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Speaker 6: just tow the balls to the lone of scrimmage.

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Speaker 1: It sounds crazy, it's.

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Speaker 6: It's unbelievable when you think about it. In that aspect,

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Speaker 6: you know what, we're not sacks are going to go

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Speaker 6: down so much that guys are just gonna like stop

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Speaker 6: rushing and what that. And in turn, that hurts the

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Speaker 6: defensive guys and hurt because, yo, what if they're not getting.

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Speaker 1: Sacks, they're not getting red. If you're not getting to

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Speaker 1: the quarterback, you're not getting money.

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Speaker 6: So it takes the Joey boss uh, the Nick Bosas

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Speaker 6: and the Aaron Donalds and the match Crosby's out of

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Speaker 6: the football game because now their impact on the game

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Speaker 6: is taken away. So now you know, it is a

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Speaker 6: thing that if you're defensive coordinator, you basically have to,

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Speaker 6: you know, put this into your game plan and something

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Speaker 6: that you know what, we're not going to rush the

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Speaker 6: quarterback on this play because, you know what, we're just

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Speaker 6: gonna drop the guys off a lot of shimage.

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Speaker 3: Which is crazy to think, because if you give guys

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Speaker 3: a certain amount of time, they're going to get you.

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Speaker 1: Like you got to get to some of these qbs.

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Speaker 1: You have to.

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Speaker 3: You have to with the only end result really being

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Speaker 3: that they're going to be able to intentionally ground it.

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Speaker 6: Tom Brady coming back and play another five years.

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Speaker 1: It's amazing to me, man, I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 3: There's so many things that blow my mind sometimes about

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Speaker 3: how things are situated and done.

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Speaker 1: But you know, nonetheless, we'll.

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Speaker 3: See how it all plays out as usual, Guys get

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Speaker 3: rules changed, and guys adapt and adjust to how it

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Speaker 3: goes and we'll go from there. But anyways, got to

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Speaker 3: do it for us here. Hope you guys enjoyed the

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Speaker 3: show is Plexico Birds. I'm LeVar Arrington Tjnzada. This is

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Speaker 3: up on Game Fox Sports Radio. Jones not show next