WEBVTT - NBA Bubble Breakdown; Makur Maker's Howard Commitment Impact, Emoni Bates Picks Michigan State with 247's Brian Snow 0:00:07.000 --> 0:00:09.719 Hey, we welcome in. I'm Doug Goliban. You are listening 0:00:09.760 --> 0:00:13.040 to All Ball, All Basketball all the time. Quick note 0:00:13.520 --> 0:00:16.640 that as we get closer and closer to the NBA 0:00:16.760 --> 0:00:19.520 bubble um, we'll be having more and more of these 0:00:19.640 --> 0:00:22.560 on balls. We even have some emergency on balls after 0:00:22.640 --> 0:00:25.640 like the first Lakers Clipper games. So thanks for downloading. 0:00:25.640 --> 0:00:28.800 Tell a friend. I don't think you'll be disappointed. Um, 0:00:28.840 --> 0:00:30.640 you can go back through our archives. Last week we 0:00:30.680 --> 0:00:33.560 had Mark Turn he was awesome. This week we're gonna 0:00:33.600 --> 0:00:39.320 focus on two players allegedly set to join college basketball sometime. 0:00:39.600 --> 0:00:43.720 Amanti Bates, who by most people's estimation, is one of 0:00:43.760 --> 0:00:47.120 the best talents to ever play high school basketball. He's 0:00:47.760 --> 0:00:51.479 maybe two years, maybe a year out from playing in college. 0:00:51.520 --> 0:00:52.960 He said he doesn't want to play in college. He 0:00:53.000 --> 0:00:58.160 committed to Michigan State, and then UM and then mccare 0:00:58.280 --> 0:01:02.040 maker who was a Hunter recruit and just committed to 0:01:02.560 --> 0:01:06.080 an h b c U and get a chance to 0:01:06.160 --> 0:01:11.600 play potentially for historically black a college university. The problem 0:01:11.640 --> 0:01:13.840 is he might not actually play for that college university. 0:01:13.880 --> 0:01:15.600 What does it all mean. We'll get to that upcoming. 0:01:16.080 --> 0:01:18.199 I want to give you a couple of thoughts here 0:01:18.600 --> 0:01:22.399 on the NBA. I've heard comments Anthony Davis said, hey, 0:01:22.400 --> 0:01:26.360 we're better than ever, We're healthy, we should be the favorite. 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:29.520 Um comes down to who's healthy and who wants it 0:01:29.560 --> 0:01:31.959 more and we want it bad, right, That's basically what 0:01:32.000 --> 0:01:37.560 he said. Here's the issue. They're not gonna have Avery Bradley. 0:01:37.600 --> 0:01:39.959 They might not have Dwight Howard. And though I like 0:01:40.080 --> 0:01:42.080 the j R. Smith addition, Jerry Smith could have been 0:01:42.080 --> 0:01:44.680 at it anyway, probably would have been at it anyway. 0:01:44.520 --> 0:01:48.840 The issue is their success directly of recent and their 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:50.560 dominance in the league. They became the best team in 0:01:50.560 --> 0:01:53.240 the league over the five month of February. Do you 0:01:53.280 --> 0:01:56.160 know who else was playing great in February. You're right, 0:01:56.680 --> 0:01:59.560 Avery Bradley. They need him. He was a great on 0:01:59.600 --> 0:02:01.680 balld to ender. He can make shots and play without 0:02:01.720 --> 0:02:05.600 the basketball. Now Jr. Smith we think can make shots. Uh, 0:02:05.600 --> 0:02:07.600 he's not the same type of defender, but a decent, 0:02:07.800 --> 0:02:10.799 solid defensive player. He's just not the ball handler that 0:02:10.840 --> 0:02:13.840 Avery Bradley is. It hurts them he's not. There's a 0:02:13.880 --> 0:02:16.240 reason Jr. Smith was on the street and the reason 0:02:16.280 --> 0:02:19.840 Avery Bradley was a starter. Right, there's the two different players. 0:02:19.960 --> 0:02:22.519 So Bradley was coming into his own him staying home. 0:02:22.600 --> 0:02:25.519 But but the bigger thing is we do this thing 0:02:26.760 --> 0:02:29.760 in life, and maybe I do it because I'm I 0:02:29.800 --> 0:02:32.000 have some narcissistic tendencies where you look at things from 0:02:32.040 --> 0:02:35.040 only your perspective. So Anthony Davis is just looking at 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:38.320 from his perspective. His perspective is we're healthy. Lebron's rested. 0:02:38.360 --> 0:02:41.000 Now he's had He was carrying a huge load. When 0:02:41.040 --> 0:02:43.280 he's right, when he's fresh, he's the best player in 0:02:43.320 --> 0:02:45.200 the league. That's Anthony Davis just played with him, and 0:02:45.200 --> 0:02:47.560 Anthony Davis probably thinks I was a little worn down. 0:02:47.720 --> 0:02:50.000 Now I'm fresh. The problem with it is so with 0:02:50.080 --> 0:02:53.560 the Clippers, and if you look at the Clippers and 0:02:53.720 --> 0:02:56.720 their issues, it was with cohesion. Well, now they get 0:02:56.720 --> 0:02:58.919 an additional training camp, they get more time around each other, 0:02:59.120 --> 0:03:03.000 then they get you know there uh early playoff games. 0:03:03.040 --> 0:03:06.280 They'll have more time and games together, so that any 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:09.120 chemistry issues they previously had playing with Paul George and 0:03:09.160 --> 0:03:12.240 Kawhi Leonard. This is like another season and another off 0:03:12.360 --> 0:03:16.640 season and Kauai struggle to stay healthy. You would think 0:03:17.000 --> 0:03:20.160 you would think that all the time away, all the 0:03:20.200 --> 0:03:23.040 rehab work on his body. Kawhi Leonard should be back 0:03:23.080 --> 0:03:27.560 to prime Kawhi Leonard, which is closer to his athletic 0:03:27.600 --> 0:03:31.720 prime than Lebron James. So while I do think that 0:03:31.760 --> 0:03:34.400 the Lakers arrested fresh and if they can stay healthy, 0:03:34.600 --> 0:03:37.600 have a great chance, I think the Clippers benefit equally 0:03:37.680 --> 0:03:39.760 and maybe even more so if lou Williams gets on 0:03:39.800 --> 0:03:41.560 the plane and goes to Orlando and they have all 0:03:41.600 --> 0:03:45.520 their players, which I think is gonna happen. So I 0:03:46.080 --> 0:03:49.960 get the thought on the Lakers. I don't really understand 0:03:50.000 --> 0:03:53.520 what's happening in Brooklyn. Spencer didn't we need legit surgery. 0:03:53.720 --> 0:03:56.360 He's not gonna go. Kyrie is not gonna like nobody 0:03:56.400 --> 0:03:59.080 wants to go. But I think that part of it 0:03:59.120 --> 0:04:03.640 is this is about leadership. You know, Lebron leads wants 0:04:03.680 --> 0:04:07.240 to go, all but one guy goes. Kyrie Irving questions 0:04:07.240 --> 0:04:09.400 the league and whether they should do it. Kevin Durant 0:04:09.400 --> 0:04:11.800 doesn't want to play even though he's healthy, and nobody 0:04:11.840 --> 0:04:15.360 wants to go for Brooklyn. So look, do I think 0:04:15.400 --> 0:04:18.640 the Clippers are favorites. I still have questions about the 0:04:18.680 --> 0:04:22.360 Clippers outside of of Kauai. You know, their ability to 0:04:22.400 --> 0:04:24.679 take and make big shots in the playoffs. They don't 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:26.560 seem to have as many guys. But then I have 0:04:26.640 --> 0:04:29.040 the same questions about the Lakers. Anthon Davis never done 0:04:29.040 --> 0:04:34.800 anything in the playoffs. J R. Has but is that's 0:04:34.800 --> 0:04:36.920 the guy you're counting on, right, Like we have our questions, 0:04:37.200 --> 0:04:42.480 Rondo hasn't done it in years. Um I love Cou's 0:04:42.520 --> 0:04:44.040 and I think that I think, I think the biggest 0:04:44.080 --> 0:04:48.760 question for the Lakers is this, If Kyle Kuzma is 0:04:48.880 --> 0:04:53.640 right physically, is right mentally, they could be a much 0:04:53.680 --> 0:04:55.960 better team because he had get to have really much 0:04:56.000 --> 0:04:58.960 of an impact or a positive impact on the season. 0:04:59.000 --> 0:05:02.200 When it stopped, it was everybody but Kuzma kind of 0:05:02.240 --> 0:05:05.640 playing it at at their top level. If Cou's is back, 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:09.320 I would say the Lakers get back to being a favorite. 0:05:09.320 --> 0:05:12.559 But it's a big if, especially considering they just lacked 0:05:12.600 --> 0:05:16.280 the depth of guards and guys that create shots for others. 0:05:17.480 --> 0:05:22.239 Um I. I also I look at the Bucks and 0:05:22.880 --> 0:05:26.680 it's going to be very telling for that team, you know. 0:05:27.040 --> 0:05:29.000 And and the the thing about the Bucks which is 0:05:29.320 --> 0:05:32.360 fascinating to me, Chris Middleton says he didn't touch the 0:05:32.400 --> 0:05:34.840 ball for three months. I don't. I don't believe him. 0:05:34.880 --> 0:05:38.800 And if it's true, I think that's Uh, that's that's 0:05:38.800 --> 0:05:41.640 not good news. Now you could That doesn't mean you're 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:44.960 not working out, but the development of your ball skills 0:05:44.960 --> 0:05:47.360 and getting it back in a month in ramp up time. 0:05:47.839 --> 0:05:50.800 Who that that is an uphill climb. I still think 0:05:50.800 --> 0:05:53.479 it's the Clippers. I still think it's the Lakers. Um. 0:05:53.520 --> 0:05:57.520 I'm intrigued to see what Houston looks like because when 0:05:57.520 --> 0:05:59.279 you don't have remember you don't have home games, but 0:05:59.320 --> 0:06:02.039 you also don't have road games, and they could be 0:06:02.040 --> 0:06:05.320 a matchup problem, most specifically for the Lakers, who don't 0:06:05.360 --> 0:06:09.200 have the the the number of perimeter players to guard 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:11.680 them and could struggle with small ball if Houston could 0:06:11.720 --> 0:06:16.880 get hot. Uh. And I'm intrigued to see what Milwaukee 0:06:16.920 --> 0:06:19.279 looks like because you have a team that has not 0:06:19.480 --> 0:06:22.839 one big and they had a great home court. Them 0:06:22.920 --> 0:06:25.880 losing that home court seems like the most like the 0:06:25.960 --> 0:06:27.640 Lakers lose their home court and they were gonna play 0:06:27.640 --> 0:06:29.400 the Clippers and would be like a home game when 0:06:29.400 --> 0:06:32.640 they played the Clippers. But the Bucks, because of their youth, 0:06:32.720 --> 0:06:35.920 because of the energy, Milwaukee, the desire to keep honest 0:06:35.960 --> 0:06:37.839 and the desire to win a championship for the first 0:06:37.839 --> 0:06:41.720 time since Kareem was there. I think the Bucks lose 0:06:41.760 --> 0:06:43.839 the most and losing their home court, and we'll see 0:06:43.839 --> 0:06:47.200 if Chris Middleton really is that rusty. Let's get you 0:06:47.240 --> 0:06:51.240 to our guest for the day. Bryan Snow works seven Sports. 0:06:51.279 --> 0:06:54.479 He's a basketball recruiting analyst. He knows everything the insides 0:06:54.520 --> 0:06:56.800 and outs of the game from these guys when they're 0:06:56.839 --> 0:07:00.240 you know, fourteen, fifteen years old. He's awesome of this 0:07:00.240 --> 0:07:02.680 particular topic. He joins us Now on the All Ball 0:07:02.720 --> 0:07:09.640 podcast b Amani Bates how good. He's really damn good? 0:07:09.840 --> 0:07:12.040 And you know I wrote about this, Doug kind of 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:14.720 one of the things that really separates him from other 0:07:14.760 --> 0:07:18.600 guys who have gotten the best since Lebron title, guys 0:07:18.640 --> 0:07:22.400 like O J. Mayo, Kyreek Evans is he's not this 0:07:22.520 --> 0:07:27.120 like overgrown, physically developed sixteen year old. He's actually got 0:07:27.120 --> 0:07:29.120 a lot of room for growth. And then he's also 0:07:29.200 --> 0:07:31.880 not this just freak athlete who you're hoping his skills 0:07:31.960 --> 0:07:35.280 catch up. He's super skilled, super smart, has an incredible 0:07:35.320 --> 0:07:42.160 work ethic, so he combines good physical tools with incredible intelligence. 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:45.560 Incredible work ethic and skills that are off the charts 0:07:46.240 --> 0:07:48.720 and at six ft eight with you know, ball skills 0:07:48.720 --> 0:07:50.920 on the wing. I mean, he just does things that 0:07:50.960 --> 0:07:53.800 are so advanced for his age. It's it's really impressive. 0:07:54.600 --> 0:07:59.320 Um okay, So, uh, why Michigan State? You why did 0:07:59.320 --> 0:08:02.280 he choose Michigan State? I mean, quite honestly, they were 0:08:02.320 --> 0:08:06.400 recruiting him. I mean it's really that simple. His dad 0:08:06.680 --> 0:08:10.120 was getting all sorts of frustrated with the fact that 0:08:10.120 --> 0:08:13.400 his son wasn't being recruited. He was universally considered the 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:17.760 best high school prospect and in this sport, and schools 0:08:17.840 --> 0:08:19.920 just weren't recruiting him because they all thought he'd go 0:08:20.000 --> 0:08:24.240 G League, G League select or overseas or or what. 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:27.960 They just thought he wasn't going to college. And Amani 0:08:28.120 --> 0:08:30.360 himself has said he doesn't want to go to college. 0:08:30.920 --> 0:08:33.240 He he wants to go right to the NBA. Now, 0:08:34.040 --> 0:08:36.840 I don't personally. There's a whole lot that goes into 0:08:36.880 --> 0:08:39.559 that that's out of his control, obviously, including the NBA, 0:08:39.640 --> 0:08:42.800 c B A, And as of right now, really only 0:08:42.840 --> 0:08:45.199 one person wants to change that rule. And it's granted's 0:08:45.240 --> 0:08:49.120 the most important person in sad and silver. But you 0:08:49.160 --> 0:08:52.640 know there's not as nearly the momentum to change the 0:08:52.640 --> 0:08:56.160 one and done rule as there was maybe six months ago. 0:08:55.920 --> 0:08:58.240 Why do you think that is because of the G 0:08:58.400 --> 0:09:03.000 League selecting? Know? I think it's it's you talk to 0:09:03.000 --> 0:09:06.000 scouts in front office people. They don't want to be 0:09:06.040 --> 0:09:08.520 in high school gyms, correct, They want they want that 0:09:08.640 --> 0:09:12.400 year of college development where one they learned what you're 0:09:12.440 --> 0:09:15.840 like against other good, other good and developed players, and 0:09:15.920 --> 0:09:18.000 two they learn what you're like when you're away from home. 0:09:18.360 --> 0:09:20.640 Do you lose your mind and act of fool? Do 0:09:20.640 --> 0:09:23.640 you show responsibility? You know? How do you how do 0:09:23.679 --> 0:09:27.120 you react to everyday regimented things like you got to 0:09:27.160 --> 0:09:28.880 be in the weight room, you gotta How do you 0:09:28.920 --> 0:09:30.760 show up to practice? How do you show up to work? 0:09:30.760 --> 0:09:33.000 Do you show maturity? How do you respect your coaches? 0:09:33.760 --> 0:09:36.320 That's all very important to the NBA evaluation that you 0:09:36.360 --> 0:09:39.920 simply can't get in high school, so it gives them 0:09:39.920 --> 0:09:44.800 more certainty on what they're drafting. Listen, listen again, all 0:09:44.920 --> 0:09:48.120 your points I agree with, and I know that they're 0:09:48.160 --> 0:09:50.160 not just your points, their points of people that you 0:09:50.200 --> 0:09:53.680 know in the business that you've talked to, why though, 0:09:54.880 --> 0:09:58.000 this is weird. We we've gotten to this place, and 0:09:58.080 --> 0:10:01.120 maybe I have to be careful about living in the 0:10:01.120 --> 0:10:05.000 media realm and in the social media realm. But what 0:10:05.040 --> 0:10:08.960 you're saying is what I know to be my thoughts, 0:10:09.000 --> 0:10:13.040 but also the thoughts of lots of powerful NBA basketball 0:10:13.080 --> 0:10:15.320 people as well as the NBA p A and and said, like, 0:10:15.360 --> 0:10:18.520 those guys don't want more young guys in the league, 0:10:18.520 --> 0:10:21.800 like they just they don't. It doesn't make the league better. 0:10:21.880 --> 0:10:24.480 You need that year. You probably need two or three years, 0:10:24.520 --> 0:10:27.320 to be totally honest with you. But anyway, why though, 0:10:27.440 --> 0:10:30.800 do so many in our position? In your position in 0:10:30.800 --> 0:10:32.920 the media is different than my position, right, you're much 0:10:32.920 --> 0:10:37.160 more intrenched. But why are so many writers under the 0:10:37.200 --> 0:10:39.640 belief that the one and done is a bad thing 0:10:39.840 --> 0:10:43.520 and that they believe everybody wants to change it when 0:10:43.559 --> 0:10:46.240 that's not Why the disconnect, I guess is my question. 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:50.840 It's it's tough for me to speak for other people. Um, 0:10:50.920 --> 0:10:54.160 I think that I do think in some respect they 0:10:54.200 --> 0:10:56.559 can see and they're correct and saying Adam Silver is 0:10:56.600 --> 0:10:59.400 the guy championing this, and he's the guy with the 0:10:59.400 --> 0:11:01.559 most power. But at the end of the day, he 0:11:01.600 --> 0:11:05.280 does work for what is it, thirty owners, thirty two owners, whatever, um, 0:11:05.320 --> 0:11:08.600 But he genuinely believes he wants because he believes just 0:11:08.760 --> 0:11:12.920 on principle, that the players are the product and they 0:11:12.920 --> 0:11:14.800 should be allowed to come to the NBA right away. 0:11:15.800 --> 0:11:19.199 So he's viewing it from that perspective. Scouts are viewing 0:11:19.200 --> 0:11:21.520 it from the we need to know what we're getting perspective, 0:11:21.920 --> 0:11:25.800 and then gms are looking at it from the well, 0:11:25.840 --> 0:11:27.480 our best value is when a guy is on a 0:11:27.520 --> 0:11:31.040 rookie dealt at a one and done, you know, his 0:11:31.120 --> 0:11:34.160 first year, we get some value out of him. But 0:11:34.200 --> 0:11:35.959 if he's coming right out of high school, that's two 0:11:36.040 --> 0:11:38.360 years of his rookie deal where we're not getting the 0:11:38.480 --> 0:11:41.600 value we're supposed to be getting, which makes team building hard. 0:11:43.040 --> 0:11:46.080 And so they they look at it from different perspective. 0:11:46.080 --> 0:11:47.439 And then of course, as you mentioned the n B 0:11:47.559 --> 0:11:49.840 a p A, they look at it from the respective 0:11:49.840 --> 0:11:51.600 that we don't want to lose our jobs, our job, 0:11:51.920 --> 0:11:53.880 you know, as the n B A p A. We 0:11:53.960 --> 0:11:57.839 want to protect who's in the players Association now. So 0:11:58.040 --> 0:12:01.240 I think right, I think right, just kind of missed that, 0:12:02.520 --> 0:12:06.760 And there is the belief and I dug I know 0:12:06.840 --> 0:12:09.280 you disagree, but I have this belief that players should 0:12:09.280 --> 0:12:11.760 be compensated in college. So it's like they're getting the 0:12:11.760 --> 0:12:15.240 wall end of the deal. And that plays mind games 0:12:15.280 --> 0:12:18.800 on yourself into thinking that this makes it all better 0:12:18.840 --> 0:12:20.360 by having them be able to go to the m 0:12:20.400 --> 0:12:23.800 B A right, and that okay, so so so that 0:12:24.080 --> 0:12:25.640 you have a great point, let's let's kind of go 0:12:25.679 --> 0:12:28.000 through it like the GM. I actually think the GMS, 0:12:28.040 --> 0:12:32.560 it's it. Look, they all get fired when they drafted 0:12:32.640 --> 0:12:36.760 high school kids. Because here's what happens. And you draft 0:12:36.800 --> 0:12:39.040 a high school kid, and you drafted a guy in 0:12:39.080 --> 0:12:44.000 the first round, and the owners like, we'll play him, right, Like, okay, 0:12:44.040 --> 0:12:45.720 well if we play them, we're not gonna win. Not 0:12:45.800 --> 0:12:48.120 on play him. Let's see what we got. So you 0:12:48.160 --> 0:12:50.719 play them, and you can't win. You can't win with 0:12:50.760 --> 0:12:53.679 an eighteen nine year old kids, You just can't. No 0:12:53.720 --> 0:12:57.640 one does right. And the first GM and the first 0:12:57.760 --> 0:13:01.520 head coach always get fired, always, always always go back, 0:13:01.559 --> 0:13:04.000 and look, they all get fired within two or three 0:13:04.080 --> 0:13:06.679 years of drafting those guys earlier. There, even the ones 0:13:06.720 --> 0:13:10.360 that became superstars, because they played them before they were 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:13.240 really ready to help you win. And so your team 0:13:13.280 --> 0:13:15.720 is worse because of it, and people aren't really into 0:13:15.760 --> 0:13:18.079 the owners aren't really into the process of wait a second, 0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:19.800 he's gonna be good eventually, and you're playing him. Now 0:13:19.800 --> 0:13:22.960 you're losing. Why are you losing? Now? Okay? So, um, 0:13:23.080 --> 0:13:25.880 for the GM, if you draft a kid out of 0:13:25.920 --> 0:13:27.439 high school, you play in the first I think the 0:13:27.440 --> 0:13:29.840 first year is a total wash, total waste of time. 0:13:29.920 --> 0:13:33.960 I mean, the most ready guy, I guess was Kobe 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:36.079 and they got to the playoffs and he was bad. 0:13:36.640 --> 0:13:39.240 But that's like the best and Kobe's a one in 0:13:39.559 --> 0:13:44.240 a million, whereas Kevin Garnett and other stars weren't. Actually, 0:13:44.600 --> 0:13:48.960 you know, Lebron, I guess would be the other one. Um, like, 0:13:49.000 --> 0:13:51.000 those are two of the greatest players in the history 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:54.640 of the sport, right and and so so that's the 0:13:54.640 --> 0:13:57.480 first thing. So GMS, the first year is a waste, 0:13:57.520 --> 0:14:00.400 the second year is and after at and now all 0:14:00.400 --> 0:14:02.080 of a sudden you're starting to get into the where 0:14:02.120 --> 0:14:05.280 that do we know what we have? Thing? I think 0:14:05.440 --> 0:14:06.800 one of the big things that we're missing. And this 0:14:06.840 --> 0:14:09.960 is where I actually do think players are compensated, because 0:14:10.000 --> 0:14:12.320 I think they're compensated not just with getting into college 0:14:12.320 --> 0:14:14.960 they couldn't get into but while they're there, but they're 0:14:15.000 --> 0:14:19.000 also marketed. And I think what Adam Silver misses and 0:14:19.120 --> 0:14:22.960 what like his big swing and misses. And it's better 0:14:23.120 --> 0:14:26.480 for the league when they spend a year or two 0:14:26.560 --> 0:14:30.200 in college, frankly the longer, because all we do as 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:35.120 broadcasters is promote these guys as something greater than And 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:39.320 the Zion Williamson effect is the perfect example. Zion benefited 0:14:39.360 --> 0:14:42.080 from being a duke in terms of getting in shape 0:14:42.080 --> 0:14:45.040 becoming a better player, but the biggest benefit was to 0:14:45.160 --> 0:14:49.080 him as a in marketing. He became a superstar because 0:14:49.160 --> 0:14:52.280 you align him as a YouTube star with the biggest 0:14:52.600 --> 0:14:56.080 brand and the cleanest Again, I'm not telling you it 0:14:56.120 --> 0:14:59.160 actually is clean. And the current investigation to his recruiting 0:14:59.160 --> 0:15:03.560 may expose the ugly underbelly, but it's you combine those 0:15:03.560 --> 0:15:06.840 two superpowers and you put him. He only played a 0:15:06.840 --> 0:15:08.560 couple of n c A tournament games, he didn't play 0:15:08.560 --> 0:15:10.640 a full season, but look what it did to the 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:14.480 marketing of him. Same thing for Kevin Durant. It's better 0:15:14.520 --> 0:15:17.080 for the league when the players a little bit mature, 0:15:17.360 --> 0:15:20.800 but also when they have a legit following once they 0:15:21.200 --> 0:15:24.160 from just a year of playing in those big made 0:15:24.200 --> 0:15:27.840 for TV events and in the n c A tournament. Yeah, 0:15:27.880 --> 0:15:32.080 and again, like I think I actually think it benefits 0:15:32.080 --> 0:15:34.480 the NBA. I certainly think of benefits college basketball to 0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:37.960 have these guys. I know some fans get into like, 0:15:38.000 --> 0:15:40.400 well I don't get to know them, and I'm like, 0:15:40.800 --> 0:15:43.080 you know what, you still like watching your team win 0:15:43.280 --> 0:15:46.280 more than you like getting to know the guy. So like, 0:15:47.320 --> 0:15:51.000 I don't see where anyone moves in the current situation now, Like, 0:15:51.080 --> 0:15:53.600 on principle, if you just asked me, on principle, like 0:15:54.120 --> 0:15:56.640 if if I was writing rules of what I think 0:15:56.720 --> 0:15:59.240 is right, I think they should have the right to 0:15:59.440 --> 0:16:02.320 go to the b A. However, if it's collectively bargained 0:16:02.680 --> 0:16:05.360 that they can't, I see no problem with that either, 0:16:05.480 --> 0:16:09.200 because that's how the industry works through collective bargaining. But 0:16:09.560 --> 0:16:11.960 I mean, there's just so much to it, especially in 0:16:12.280 --> 0:16:14.080 regards to a money. Just to bring it back to 0:16:14.120 --> 0:16:16.600 that for a second, like, you know, is he going 0:16:16.680 --> 0:16:20.440 to move up to and you know, try to play 0:16:20.640 --> 0:16:22.640 he would have to play two years in Michigan State 0:16:22.680 --> 0:16:25.880 because of the age, because he's actually correct age, he's 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:28.960 not old. You know, two does he wait and see 0:16:29.000 --> 0:16:31.320 if the rule gets changed. I mean, there's just so 0:16:31.400 --> 0:16:34.880 much with the money in the NBA and what is 0:16:34.920 --> 0:16:38.120 best for him and his marketing that it's gonna be 0:16:38.320 --> 0:16:41.320 very unique to watch to see how the situation progresses 0:16:41.360 --> 0:16:44.120 over the next two years. It's going to be fascinating 0:16:44.120 --> 0:16:47.720 to see. And I think what's interesting is going to 0:16:47.760 --> 0:16:51.400 be how Michigan State recruits around him, right, because the 0:16:51.520 --> 0:16:55.160 words how he really feels well his dad and well 0:16:55.200 --> 0:16:58.000 his commitment help Michigan State build some dream recruiting class, 0:16:58.080 --> 0:17:01.160 much like Oklahoma State did around Kate Cunningham. Granted, no 0:17:01.200 --> 0:17:03.480 one at his level, but they've done very, very well 0:17:03.920 --> 0:17:06.360 and Kate ultimately showed up. Obviously, it helps his brother 0:17:06.440 --> 0:17:10.879 was on staff UM, you know, or will it actually 0:17:10.880 --> 0:17:13.440 be a detriment where no one actually believes he's coming, 0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:15.840 but they have to save her a spot for him 0:17:15.880 --> 0:17:18.120 over the next two years in case he does decide 0:17:18.440 --> 0:17:21.439 to come and play UM and it actually ends up 0:17:21.480 --> 0:17:23.960 being a detriment to them because everyone knows at the 0:17:24.040 --> 0:17:25.480 end of the day, he's going to figure out a 0:17:25.480 --> 0:17:27.600 way to get around the rule and not actually play 0:17:27.640 --> 0:17:29.959 in college. All right, let me let me get to 0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:34.399 the news of the moment, which is uh uh which 0:17:34.840 --> 0:17:37.800 we you know, like I think this is interesting. Mccore 0:17:37.880 --> 0:17:42.160 maker ends up committing to Howard. Now Howard's HBCU historically 0:17:42.200 --> 0:17:47.800 Black College. Um, and uh, it's it's interesting on a 0:17:47.880 --> 0:17:51.439 multitude of levels. He not only committed, but you know 0:17:51.520 --> 0:17:54.040 picked him ahead of U C. L A and Memphis 0:17:54.160 --> 0:17:58.080 and Kentucky. Uh. He's a kid that's well traveled, right going, 0:17:58.359 --> 0:18:00.560 you know modern, He went to Orange Lutheran and then 0:18:00.560 --> 0:18:03.680 he kind of bounced around. He's a top fifty kid. First, 0:18:03.840 --> 0:18:07.479 how good is mcermaker? You know, he's really good. Uh. 0:18:07.840 --> 0:18:10.200 He's unique in that he's six ten, but he doesn't 0:18:10.240 --> 0:18:13.639 really always play like a big man. Um. He tries 0:18:13.680 --> 0:18:15.280 to play on the wing a little bit more than 0:18:15.320 --> 0:18:18.000 I would like. But but he's talented. He's six foot 0:18:18.000 --> 0:18:20.240 Tenny can dribble, pass and shoot. He's a you know, 0:18:20.280 --> 0:18:22.800 he's he's not a great athlete, he's an okay athlete. 0:18:22.800 --> 0:18:25.800 But he's got good length and you know, he's stilled. 0:18:25.800 --> 0:18:29.000 He knows how to play. So he's a really talented 0:18:29.080 --> 0:18:31.919 player that is still working to put it all together. 0:18:31.960 --> 0:18:36.040 But he's a really talented player. How how big is 0:18:36.080 --> 0:18:38.840 this for the sport that he picked an HP Kenny 0:18:38.840 --> 0:18:42.240 Blakeney who But if anybody has paid attention, Um, Howard 0:18:42.359 --> 0:18:44.680 was terrible last year and Kenny's first year. Now, I'm 0:18:44.680 --> 0:18:46.320 not saying it's an easy job. Any of those jobs 0:18:46.359 --> 0:18:49.600 there's those are tough jobs. They won three games against 0:18:49.600 --> 0:18:53.760 Division one opponents three and uh he's going there. How 0:18:53.880 --> 0:18:56.000 how big is this for the sport in your mind? 0:18:56.040 --> 0:19:01.439 And for recruiting? Um? You, Oh, I don't think it's 0:19:01.480 --> 0:19:03.520 as big as some people do. I'll be honest, just 0:19:03.520 --> 0:19:07.600 because I hesitate to think that a lot of kids 0:19:07.640 --> 0:19:09.400 are going to follow this path. Now maybe they will, 0:19:09.680 --> 0:19:12.400 and if they do that that is a big game changer. 0:19:13.160 --> 0:19:17.120 But when you look at mccurr situation, it's just so unique. 0:19:17.160 --> 0:19:20.560 I mean, his guardian Ed Smith, who was Thawnmaker's guardian. 0:19:20.640 --> 0:19:23.879 And I don't think I'm breaking any news here. A 0:19:23.880 --> 0:19:25.480 lot of schools just aren't going to deal with the man. 0:19:26.640 --> 0:19:30.040 I mean they're just not so Like, I know Kentucky 0:19:30.119 --> 0:19:32.439 was on his list. Was Kentucky really recruiting him? Honestly, 0:19:32.480 --> 0:19:37.520 I don't think so. Um, did you see Like I've 0:19:37.520 --> 0:19:40.480 known McK cronan for fifteen years, like, is that kid 0:19:40.480 --> 0:19:42.720 gonna play for mc cronin. I don't know how that's 0:19:42.720 --> 0:19:45.800 gonna work, but maybe you feel what I really wanted. 0:19:45.840 --> 0:19:48.480 I'm not saying they don't. So by him going to 0:19:48.560 --> 0:19:52.080 Howard is first of all, I think he'll definitely be 0:19:52.119 --> 0:19:54.280 eligible at Howard, which which is a big part of this. 0:19:54.359 --> 0:19:55.960 But you still have the kids still wants to go 0:19:56.000 --> 0:19:57.840 to the NBA. ED still wants him to get paid. 0:19:58.119 --> 0:20:00.520 He did the same thing with Thawn. Thawn committed to 0:20:01.040 --> 0:20:02.920 thank than committed to a school or was planning to 0:20:02.920 --> 0:20:04.720 commit to a school, and then ultimately he went to 0:20:04.760 --> 0:20:09.960 the NBA. Um I think in Ed mind, the kids 0:20:09.960 --> 0:20:11.560 still going to go to the NBA. But this is 0:20:11.640 --> 0:20:14.679 kind of the backup plane. So there's this part of 0:20:14.720 --> 0:20:17.159 me that wonders, is this actually going to hurt the 0:20:17.200 --> 0:20:21.040 movement of HBCUs getting tough kids if he backs out 0:20:21.080 --> 0:20:23.840 at the last minute because he still is in the 0:20:23.960 --> 0:20:28.520 NBA draft process. Um, So I don't. I don't know. 0:20:28.600 --> 0:20:31.439 I still think there's so much left to it in 0:20:31.560 --> 0:20:34.800 terms of you know what, kids are going to seriously 0:20:34.800 --> 0:20:39.080 consider that option. What aren't mccerrmaker is not this kid who, 0:20:39.119 --> 0:20:41.199 like a lot of other kids hang out with and 0:20:41.240 --> 0:20:44.119 look up to. He's not you know, he's not a 0:20:44.160 --> 0:20:47.800 trailblazer in that regard. He's never been Mr. Popular on 0:20:47.880 --> 0:20:51.199 the circuit and stuff like that. So I don't know 0:20:51.240 --> 0:20:55.480 if he's the guy that that really would start a movement, 0:20:56.000 --> 0:20:58.119 But if it does, it will be interesting to watch. 0:20:58.160 --> 0:21:00.520 I mean, there's no question about that. I think people 0:21:00.560 --> 0:21:03.679 forget in the seventies, and again this is second and 0:21:03.760 --> 0:21:07.160 information my dad, my late father told me, which he's like, Look, 0:21:07.520 --> 0:21:10.719 in the nineteen seventies, there was a movement um in 0:21:10.840 --> 0:21:13.840 basketball to the best black players to go play in 0:21:13.880 --> 0:21:16.240