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Speaker 1: of things we simply don't know the answer too. Hey, everybody,
Speaker 1: welcome again to another episode of Thinking Sideways. I am Steve,
Speaker 1: of course, joined by Yeah, I don't forget my pseudonym.
Speaker 1: I also say I was gonna say Devon because it's
Speaker 1: your real name. This week, we've got another mystery, which
Speaker 1: is not how do we do the same bit every week,
Speaker 1: but instead a real mystery. Uh. This week we're gonna
Speaker 1: be talking about Well, this is kind of an oddball
Speaker 1: mystery to me, and it's one of those ones that
Speaker 1: keep reading over and over and over and you just
Speaker 1: kind of scratch your head, going what's going on? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: And this is the death of a gentleman by the
Speaker 1: name of Blair Adams for we forget this was just
Speaker 1: by Denise you. We do get to them, yes, we do.
Speaker 1: Usually is it really? And it just keeps growing? Okay,
Speaker 1: We'll let me give everybody a quick summary before we
Speaker 1: get into the story because there is kind of a
Speaker 1: bunch of details here. Blair Adams was a Canadian man
Speaker 1: whose body was found on the eleventh of July in
Speaker 1: the parking lot of a hotel that was currently under
Speaker 1: construction in Knoxville, Tennessee. Uh. He was wearing a ripped
Speaker 1: shirt and nothing else. Was it ripped or had just
Speaker 1: been torn open like ripen without on button. I think
Speaker 1: it was probably torn open, but you hear it referred
Speaker 1: to as ripped. So we'll go which wherever one you like?
Speaker 1: There was somewhere Here's what really kind of catches everybody's attention.
Speaker 1: There was somewhere between four to six thousand dollars in
Speaker 1: paper currency laying on the ground around him, and that
Speaker 1: was in US, Canadian and German currencies. He also had
Speaker 1: a bag near him which had about two thousand dollars
Speaker 1: in precious metals and jewelry. And was that that was
Speaker 1: That was his fanny pack, right, that was his fanny pack.
Speaker 1: So that wasn't that wasn't on him, that was near him? Right? No, No,
Speaker 1: it wasn't on him. But thanks for giving away the
Speaker 1: fact that I was holding on it that he had
Speaker 1: a fanny pack ruined the night. But by all indications,
Speaker 1: Blair had no reason to be in Knoxville, and it
Speaker 1: doesn't appear that he knew anybody there, so we don't
Speaker 1: really know what happened and why he died there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's obviously not a robbery, not unless there was
Speaker 1: like four times as much for and they just left
Speaker 1: it some behind because they're like, well, there's so much here,
Speaker 1: make it look like it wasn't for that. Yeah. No, no,
Speaker 1: that's unlikely. Well, let's go ahead and start at the
Speaker 1: very beginning of the story. Blair Adams was thirty one
Speaker 1: years old and he lived in Surrey, British Columbia, which
Speaker 1: is right on the border between the US and Canada.
Speaker 1: And it's uh, I couldn't ever tell if it was
Speaker 1: just kind of if it was its own city or
Speaker 1: a sub community of Vancouver, you know. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's Sara quivalent of the county. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I looked it up. But the point is it's right there.
Speaker 1: And this is kind of important in that that relationship
Speaker 1: of the border because if you look at the West Coast,
Speaker 1: I five or Interstate five, runs from the bottom of
Speaker 1: California up through Oregon up through Washington and where he
Speaker 1: hits the Canadian border, that's Surrey. So it runs right
Speaker 1: into there, right there at pace arch before right. I
Speaker 1: don't know that I have. I haven't. I've never been
Speaker 1: to Canada. I've never been to Canada. Really, yeah, I
Speaker 1: know it's weird, right at I've lived here my entire
Speaker 1: life and I've never been to Canada. Yeah, it's not
Speaker 1: that far. You should go to Vancouver sometime. It's a
Speaker 1: cool town. Yeah, Okay. So Blair, he was a foreman
Speaker 1: at a construction company, and by all accounts, he was
Speaker 1: a nice, normal, well liked guy. You do see some
Speaker 1: things in the internet reading that hint at some other
Speaker 1: problems that he might have had, but will address those later. Basically,
Speaker 1: there was nothing unusual about his character. Yeah, nothing stood out.
Speaker 1: According to his mother, though, in the beginning of the
Speaker 1: summer of he started acting more and more radic, to
Speaker 1: the point that he started having to her what seemed
Speaker 1: like mood swings. She describes him as pretty a ratic
Speaker 1: or strong mood swings. And he was single, right, Yes,
Speaker 1: she was a single man. Pretty much the closest relationship
Speaker 1: of his that I got that impression She did eventually
Speaker 1: ask him, you know what's going on here, and he replied,
Speaker 1: I don't think I should tell you about it, which
Speaker 1: you could read a lot of things into that, but
Speaker 1: that's what he said. Uh, there have been some after
Speaker 1: the fact reporting. I'm going to call it after the
Speaker 1: fact reporting that says that he told other people around
Speaker 1: him that someone was out to kill him, which makes
Speaker 1: him sound pretty paranoid unless somebody was actually have to
Speaker 1: kill him, that's alway said, unless there actually was somebody.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, it's like you're only paranoid unless unless something
Speaker 1: actually does happen, and then it's too late. Yeah, nobody
Speaker 1: leaved you, if only they had. On the fifth of July,
Speaker 1: Blair went to the bank and he drained his savings
Speaker 1: account and he emptied out his safety deposit box, so
Speaker 1: he got all of his money in cash, and then
Speaker 1: he went to the safety deposit box and that's where
Speaker 1: he got the coins and the jewelry, the precious metals
Speaker 1: that he would have on him when he was found dead.
Speaker 1: And forgive me, I may have missed it, but has
Speaker 1: it ever explained why he owned those things so that
Speaker 1: it wasn't like a family heirloom. It wasn't like, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, I know that some of the
Speaker 1: medals were coined, so it may have been that he
Speaker 1: was a coin collector, but I don't know if it
Speaker 1: was maybe the families. Some people like to buy gold. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's true. Actually, you know, I was planning, if I
Speaker 1: hadn't been cheated out of my one point six billion
Speaker 1: dollar powerball jack weeks ago, I was planning, I'm buying
Speaker 1: a stout wooden chest and filling it with golden silver
Speaker 1: coins and burying it in your basement. No, I was
Speaker 1: just gonna have it out so like that could just
Speaker 1: open it up and my hat into it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.
Speaker 1: To answer your question, I don't know why. Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 1: So Blair goes to the bank, gets all his money.
Speaker 1: By the way, the Fannie pack is where he, like
Speaker 1: we said he was keeping all of it has been
Speaker 1: a big fanny pack. Well that's where he. I don't
Speaker 1: think he kept the cash in the Fannie pack. Well,
Speaker 1: I've heard it both ways. I've heard it in the
Speaker 1: fanny pack. I've heard he stuffed it into his duffel bag.
Speaker 1: That amount of money four to six thousand dollars, and
Speaker 1: I don't know the exact conversion to say how many
Speaker 1: bills were in what versus what, But that's still a
Speaker 1: lot of cash. It seemed like too much to put
Speaker 1: into a Fannie pack. Not really. If you get it
Speaker 1: in twenties, that's it's gonna be. Uh, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a hundred bills in a packet, as simbing some packets.
Speaker 1: So that's two thousand bucks. So basically three packets of bills,
Speaker 1: not that much. Thanks for just at rolling that on me, Joe.
Speaker 1: On top of yeah, it would have been it would
Speaker 1: have been a tight squeeze. Yeah. Some of those fanny
Speaker 1: packs were pretty big, remember, Yeah. Yeah, back to our
Speaker 1: story though, enough about fanny packs. So he went to
Speaker 1: the bank on the fifth, which was Friday. On Sunday,
Speaker 1: which was July seven, he went to the US border
Speaker 1: and tried to cross. And this was this is by
Speaker 1: car or car Now I heard this he was going
Speaker 1: to get I think it was he You drove to
Speaker 1: the ferry, if I remember correctly, and the ferry took
Speaker 1: you across, so it wasn't like he was just driving
Speaker 1: down the road. Well, this is the part I don't
Speaker 1: really get is that why if you're if you live
Speaker 1: in Surrey, why would you Because I had heard that
Speaker 1: he arrived from Vancouver Island, which means you get there
Speaker 1: by ferry, But when you're at Surrey, you just drive
Speaker 1: a little way south and you're at the border. Why
Speaker 1: would he Why would he go by go over to
Speaker 1: the island and then catch a fair are from the
Speaker 1: island and it's that's just a really expensive way to go.
Speaker 1: So there are so many things that he did that
Speaker 1: are so unexplainable that I don't even know where to
Speaker 1: begin with that question, let alone a bunch of the
Speaker 1: other questions that we're going to have. Yeah, I have.
Speaker 1: I can't answer that, Joe, Yeah, it's it's yes. Again.
Speaker 1: This has been kind of muddled because I almost wonder
Speaker 1: if he just thought it would be easier to get
Speaker 1: across there, you know that like on the ferry, he
Speaker 1: could just blend in with a group of people and
Speaker 1: you know, sneak through somehow or something like that, versus
Speaker 1: that is one thing about especially if you catch a
Speaker 1: big ferry, then it's just suddenly those guys are the
Speaker 1: custom shed all of a sudden are overwhelmed with people.
Speaker 1: There are a lot you know, and I've been through
Speaker 1: that whole thing. Yeah, yeah, and going up to Victoria
Speaker 1: and yeah, it's a lot of people getting off that
Speaker 1: boat all. So that would be my guess is that
Speaker 1: maybe he just thought, since he probably thought just by
Speaker 1: his actions, it seems like he was he was trying
Speaker 1: to blend in. He was trying to hrying to not
Speaker 1: be stopped at the border. And if you're driving across
Speaker 1: in a car, you're gonna get stopped. They're going to
Speaker 1: search you, versus if you're just blending. They don't search everybody,
Speaker 1: but they'll pick out the ones that are acting suspicious,
Speaker 1: which he was. He was very agitated. Customs stops him,
Speaker 1: checks him out, realizes he's got all his cash on him,
Speaker 1: the flag him as being involved in the drug trade
Speaker 1: in some way, either as a dealer or a curier. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because he's a white male, he's unmarried, and he's got
Speaker 1: a boatload of money on him. Yeah, we're not letting
Speaker 1: you across the border. So they turn him around and
Speaker 1: they send him home next time. You know, I mean,
Speaker 1: the smart thing to do in situations like that, it's
Speaker 1: to like duct tape the money to your back instead
Speaker 1: of having a fanti pack. Yeah, I don't know, but okay,
Speaker 1: so let's move forward here. We're gonna go to the
Speaker 1: next day, which is Monday, the eighth of July. Blair
Speaker 1: went to work and promptly quit. And as for his paycheck, okay,
Speaker 1: I have read conjecture in both directions of whether he
Speaker 1: did or did not get that check and if he
Speaker 1: did or did not get it cashed at the bank.
Speaker 1: So I can't say if he did that, but he
Speaker 1: got a job out of the way. He then turned around,
Speaker 1: he went to the airport and he bought a ticket
Speaker 1: for the next day to go to Germany. Spend seventeen
Speaker 1: hundred bucks going to get an airplane ticket, which you
Speaker 1: know means he wants to get out of town. He's
Speaker 1: trying to get out of town. And that explains why
Speaker 1: he had German money in Okay, that totally does um
Speaker 1: and then um se h bucks. You probably could have
Speaker 1: got a better deal if you bought it like a
Speaker 1: little earlier, if things had been planned instead of what
Speaker 1: seems to be spurred the moment. Although in the nineties
Speaker 1: it was a little easier to just kind of get
Speaker 1: you know that, like really flags you these days, right,
Speaker 1: if You're like, I need to get out of this
Speaker 1: country immediately. I will take the first flight. Blair is
Speaker 1: doing everything in cash at this point, but I'm just
Speaker 1: saying like that is the sort of thing that these
Speaker 1: days people are probably not but in the nineties that
Speaker 1: didn't stand out at all. But he couldn't wait to
Speaker 1: leave the country the next lead. Flying out the next
Speaker 1: day was not soon enough for him. So what he
Speaker 1: does is he he has a ticket. He then goes
Speaker 1: to a friend's house that night and knocks on the
Speaker 1: doors in the middle of the night, saying, Hey, can
Speaker 1: you take me the border? Can you get me out
Speaker 1: of town? I gotta go, I gotta go, I gotta go.
Speaker 1: His friend has her kids at home, says Claire, my
Speaker 1: kids are here. I can't just drive you to the border,
Speaker 1: at which point he gets all flustered and frustrated and leaves.
Speaker 1: And then we know that the next day he does
Speaker 1: make it to the airport. He does go to the
Speaker 1: Vancouver airport. That's this is going to be Tuesday the night,
Speaker 1: but instead of getting on his plane, he cashes out
Speaker 1: his ticket, turns around and rents a car and drives
Speaker 1: south to Seattle. He manages to get across the border
Speaker 1: this time, Well, he's seventeen thou less, No, I got
Speaker 1: as far as I can tell, he gets his money back,
Speaker 1: his money back. But yeah, and then he got it
Speaker 1: in cash. He didn't get it as a voucher. I
Speaker 1: am under the impression that he got in his cash,
Speaker 1: but I cannot say. I just wonder, because of the
Speaker 1: things that happened next, he could have gotten it as
Speaker 1: a voucher maybe, and that would have been less suspicious
Speaker 1: crossing the border. We know, there's some weirdness about the
Speaker 1: cost of talking. But what We're almost there, so okay,
Speaker 1: he this is again, We're still on Tuesday. He drives
Speaker 1: across the border. He doesn't get stopped this time. He
Speaker 1: goes to Seattle. He then books a ticket at the airport.
Speaker 1: I believe he would have been at sea tack at
Speaker 1: this point. He books a ticket to Washington, d C. Okay,
Speaker 1: weird thing about the getting This is what I what
Speaker 1: I was just pointing at, is again he buys a
Speaker 1: one way ticket. That one way ticket costs seven and
Speaker 1: seventy bucks. He could have got a round trip ticket
Speaker 1: for three to four hundred dollars. Well, and that's I
Speaker 1: mean that's maybe a little bit why I wonder if
Speaker 1: it wasn't that he got a voucher or it was
Speaker 1: like part cast, part part cash, part voucher that they
Speaker 1: gave they would refunds so much, right that they would
Speaker 1: only refund certain percent. And then they said, you know
Speaker 1: what he got. Actually they said, all right, fine, here's
Speaker 1: a voucher for you know, a ticket that it didn't
Speaker 1: really matter. That could be I don't know that the
Speaker 1: value of the ticket is just so weird. I'm a
Speaker 1: natural cheapskate. Though, even if I don't intend to come
Speaker 1: back on the return flight, I'm totally going to go
Speaker 1: for the cheaper. I mean, it's not so much that
Speaker 1: case anymore. But at that time, one way flights were
Speaker 1: obscenely expensive compared to round trips. Yeah. Yeah, but I
Speaker 1: don't know that's that was one of the things that
Speaker 1: I was thinking, is that, like it would make sense
Speaker 1: that he didn't really care how much he had spent
Speaker 1: on the plane ticket because he had that voucher. Who cares?
Speaker 1: So he had you know, eight nine or maybe a
Speaker 1: thousand dollars on the voucher, and it was like, I
Speaker 1: don't care, it doesn't matter. It's there. I have to
Speaker 1: spend it to say that, based on his behavior, subsequent behavior,
Speaker 1: in previous behavior, he didn't seem to really care that
Speaker 1: much about money. The money was no object, it was
Speaker 1: not it was not high on the list at all. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Blair got on the plane to Washington, d C. Is
Speaker 1: one way ticket. The flight, uh didn't leave on Tuesday.
Speaker 1: He actually left sometime in the early part of Wednesday,
Speaker 1: so that again, this would be July tenth. Just moving
Speaker 1: forward in the timeline, I have no idea what he
Speaker 1: did during the time that he was waiting for that
Speaker 1: plane to take off. I'm guessing he just milled about
Speaker 1: the airport. Oh. I was going to say he went
Speaker 1: and set up the mystery soda machine. Honestly, I don't
Speaker 1: think that was it. Regardless, though he gets on his flight,
Speaker 1: he lands in d C. He then goes ahead and
Speaker 1: he rents another car. He rents a white Toyota camera
Speaker 1: and he starts driving south. Talk about let's talk about
Speaker 1: the things that are expensive one way. A rental car
Speaker 1: one way incredibly expensive. He's incredibly expensive. I don't know
Speaker 1: that the rental was a one way. I know that
Speaker 1: he was due to return the rental on the twelfth
Speaker 1: of But I'm just I'm trying to remember, and I
Speaker 1: don't know that it was ever said where he was
Speaker 1: supposed to be taking it back to. It's insanely expensive
Speaker 1: to get to to return to any kind of car
Speaker 1: rental facility that's, you know, not within two miles of
Speaker 1: the original one. It's insane, Yes, it is. It's super expensive.
Speaker 1: But the point is he takes his car and he
Speaker 1: drives Chad south. We know he heads south because he
Speaker 1: shows up in Knoxville, Tennessee, which is at a He's
Speaker 1: actually at a gas station on Strawberry Planes Pike, which
Speaker 1: is about five hundred miles south. It's kind of it's
Speaker 1: worth the driving, kind of. I don't even know if
Speaker 1: it's within the city limits of knox It does not
Speaker 1: look like it's actually in the It's on the outskirts.
Speaker 1: It's one of those freeway interchanges where they got a
Speaker 1: bunch of gas stations, a couple of fast food places,
Speaker 1: a few hotels. It's nothing but gas stations and hotels. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this area where he shows up Strawberry Planes Here's uh,
Speaker 1: here's where things start to get even weirder. Okay, so
Speaker 1: Blair gets his gas, He pays for it, and then
Speaker 1: he can't get his car started. He goes up to
Speaker 1: the attendant. The attendant, being nice, comes and see what's
Speaker 1: going on. What's wrong? He says, I can't start the car.
Speaker 1: He says, oh, well, let me see your key. He
Speaker 1: figures out quite quickly that Blair has the wrong key
Speaker 1: for the car, as in, he's driving a Toyota and
Speaker 1: he's got a key for a completely different brand of vehicle. Okay,
Speaker 1: which begs the question how the hell did he get there? Well, also,
Speaker 1: you know, when you're driving a rail car, the key
Speaker 1: always has one of those little tags hanging on. You
Speaker 1: have like four keys on there. Yeah, they're they're they're
Speaker 1: giant wads of plastic and stuff. They're they're not convenient
Speaker 1: at They're made to be obtrusive so that you don't
Speaker 1: forget that you have them. Yes, yeah, So gas station
Speaker 1: attendant says, you can't use this key, it's the wrong key.
Speaker 1: He tries to help me, says, okay, let's go through
Speaker 1: your pockets, let's go through your stuff. They can't find
Speaker 1: the proper key to this vehicle that he drove to
Speaker 1: the gas station with. Anywhere is there surveillance footage of
Speaker 1: at this gas station, not that I am aware of now.
Speaker 1: I don't think that it was. It's vance footage, wasn't.
Speaker 1: I just I just wonder, because you know, maybe he
Speaker 1: wasn't driving the car. That is a very good question,
Speaker 1: and that does show up later on in our theory. Sex.
Speaker 1: But the attendant, the gas station attend didn't say anything
Speaker 1: about seeing somebody with him. But I don't know that
Speaker 1: you would necessarily notice itself, sir. You're doing other stuff.
Speaker 1: You might not notice who shows up in every car.
Speaker 1: That's completely One would think that if Blair was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: but my friend had the key, so if there was
Speaker 1: a second person, yeah, you would think that would happen.
Speaker 1: Now we're used, we're really used to this now. But
Speaker 1: this is the mid nineties when chipped keys were really
Speaker 1: starting to take off. So for anybody who says, well,
Speaker 1: it was a nineties car, they should have just had
Speaker 1: a locksmith figure out what it was and they could
Speaker 1: have cut a new key. That wasn't a possibility. So
Speaker 1: it was so they were that cam was a chipped
Speaker 1: I did have chip keys. Toyota in the nineties was
Speaker 1: starting the chipping. I know that they were because I
Speaker 1: know that Fords in the nineties had the chips, and
Speaker 1: Fords were the slowest to pick up the technology. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I'm I'm pretty sure that it would have been
Speaker 1: a chip key. But even if they did, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's not as though, like, you know, you take a
Speaker 1: car with no key to a locksmith and they've come
Speaker 1: you a new key. It's especially at what five thirty
Speaker 1: in the evening, right, It's not as though you just
Speaker 1: like walk up to a locksmith and they're like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: give me like five minutes and I'll do that. It's
Speaker 1: a process. The work day out a lot. You would
Speaker 1: want to go to the rental place, I think, and
Speaker 1: they were closed, Yeah, they were closed. But here's the deal.
Speaker 1: I can't remember. I don't actually rent cars very often.
Speaker 1: It's been a while since I have. But it seems
Speaker 1: to me that when you rent a car, they give
Speaker 1: you two keys. Okay, okay, this is actually this is
Speaker 1: like on the heels. They do give you two keys,
Speaker 1: but they lock them together with one of those a
Speaker 1: brand or a Rivet Rivet. They like clamp it together
Speaker 1: on a big ring, so they're they're two key, but
Speaker 1: it's on the same key rank, it's the dumbest thing
Speaker 1: in the world. Why give me two keys if I
Speaker 1: can't separate them? You can't separate them, Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: you can if you I think it's because you're only
Speaker 1: meant to have the one driver unless you actively say
Speaker 1: we're gonna have two drivers, and I presume that they
Speaker 1: can separate them. At that point they say, Okay, here's
Speaker 1: your two keys. But typically they just hand you a
Speaker 1: lot of keys that are on that same thing. I
Speaker 1: rent cars a lot, as it turns out, um, and
Speaker 1: they do they stick them together. That's stupid. I agree,
Speaker 1: it's very it's super stupid. Car rental is the worst.
Speaker 1: But I just wanted to say though, just coincidentally, I
Speaker 1: lost my keys just this morning, and well, and in
Speaker 1: my defense, I gotta say I had only had one
Speaker 1: cup of coffee and I frankly didn't get a good,
Speaker 1: nice sleep last night. Yeah you want to talk about
Speaker 1: not good Yeah you too. But anyways, but he could
Speaker 1: have done the same thing that I did this morning.
Speaker 1: I'm patting out my pants with or not there, so
Speaker 1: I go look in the usual places where the usual
Speaker 1: place where I leave them, and I like at other
Speaker 1: flat surfaces like the kitchen, counters and everywhere the bureau
Speaker 1: of my bedroom, you know, and and uh no, nothing.
Speaker 1: So I go through my my jacket pockets not there,
Speaker 1: And I go through there's a pair of pants laying
Speaker 1: in my bed. I don't remember if I wore those
Speaker 1: yesterday or not. But I go through the pockets, not there,
Speaker 1: and I go go do the whole thing over again.
Speaker 1: Finally find my keys because I was wearing a fleece
Speaker 1: and they were in the pocket of the fleece. And
Speaker 1: like I said in my defense, it might have been
Speaker 1: the same thing. He might have actually had his keys
Speaker 1: on him, but they were like the shirt pocket or something.
Speaker 1: He realized that he didn't think too. He didn't think
Speaker 1: to check. It's happened to me more than once. It's possible.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's totally possible. But the long and the
Speaker 1: short for Blair in his situation is because the rental
Speaker 1: place is closed, it's now past five thirty and he
Speaker 1: can't get into his car. They call a tow truck
Speaker 1: and they told the car to a garage and say
Speaker 1: call him in the morning. Figure out how to get
Speaker 1: your key in the morning when they're open. Man. So
Speaker 1: this is said now I heard in one place that
Speaker 1: he the toe company is the tow truck told him
Speaker 1: to a hotel. So you will see I have seen
Speaker 1: this as well. And it's not that they took the
Speaker 1: car to the hotel. Is that they took Blair or
Speaker 1: to the hotel, or and then took the car to
Speaker 1: the shop, or they took the car to the shop
Speaker 1: and Blair walked or hitchhiked to his hotel. Ye seen directions, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Gord to the Knox the Knox County Sheriff's Department. They
Speaker 1: had a thing on. They said that he was given
Speaker 1: a ride by the tow truck driver. And I'm inclined
Speaker 1: to believe that he got a ride. But you do
Speaker 1: see some places where people will say and then he walked,
Speaker 1: or they will say he hitchhike. I'm not inclined to
Speaker 1: buy that. I mean, if you've got a tow truck driver,
Speaker 1: then you get a ride from the tow truck driver
Speaker 1: because you don't know where you are, usually dirt. But
Speaker 1: you'll see it both ways. He's now at a hotel,
Speaker 1: because we've just talked about that. He gets to this
Speaker 1: hotel somehow and he walks into the hotel and he uh,
Speaker 1: and I'm almost certain that he, by the way, was
Speaker 1: at the Fairfield in in suits. Yeah, And he goes
Speaker 1: ahead and he walks into the lobby, he hangs out,
Speaker 1: and then he does he exhibited some very odd behavior.
Speaker 1: He's there for an hour, in and out of the
Speaker 1: lobby a total of five times before he finally gets
Speaker 1: a room. People have watched the surveillance taping the room
Speaker 1: or asks for a room. He pays for a room. Okay,
Speaker 1: so no, I mean that's a big difference, right. It's
Speaker 1: one thing to just be this random person who's walking
Speaker 1: in back and forth. It's another to like walk up
Speaker 1: to the counter and say I need a room and
Speaker 1: then kind of hang out. Let me clarify. He walked
Speaker 1: in and out, hung out, hung out, hung out that
Speaker 1: entire hour before requesting the clarification. I was so he
Speaker 1: he hung out in the lobby, wandered around like he
Speaker 1: was waiting for somebody. Is what the tape looks like,
Speaker 1: and then finally goes up to the counter pays for
Speaker 1: a room, which, by the way, again this is another
Speaker 1: point where he doesn't seem to care about money. He
Speaker 1: pays for a fifty dollar room with a hundred dollar
Speaker 1: bill and doesn't stick around for his change. Did he
Speaker 1: have a cell phone, Not that I know of. I've
Speaker 1: never seen mention of a cell phone, never seen mention
Speaker 1: of anything like that at all. And that's between about
Speaker 1: six and seven pm, right on the night. So he
Speaker 1: left the hotel. From the footage, he walked out of
Speaker 1: the hotel at seven pm. He got there somewhere around
Speaker 1: someone like that, and then did his milling about before leaving,
Speaker 1: at which point he leaves the hotel. And we have
Speaker 1: no idea what he does at all for the rest
Speaker 1: of that evening and over the course of that fall
Speaker 1: allowing night. Actually I have an idea what he did.
Speaker 1: He got killed. He died in between the Yeah, that's true,
Speaker 1: that's accurate. We did solve this mystery, kind of do that. Okay.
Speaker 1: So the next day, which laughing shouldn't be I'm laughing
Speaker 1: at Joe, I'm not laughing at the case. At seven
Speaker 1: thirty in the morning, a construction crew shows up at
Speaker 1: their work site, which is another hotel. Again, there's hotels.
Speaker 1: This place is just lousy with hotels. That's strip. I mean,
Speaker 1: every every place has that strip outside of town. I
Speaker 1: personally think this particular spot has an excessive number of hotels.
Speaker 1: That counted, there's thirteen hotels there and it's like a
Speaker 1: mile and a half by a mile and a half.
Speaker 1: It's there's there's a stretch of road right outside of
Speaker 1: d i A that has like fourteen or fifteen but
Speaker 1: that's by an airport. Yeah, well this is outside of
Speaker 1: a major city. Okay, okay, So he is found. This
Speaker 1: construction crew finds player's body. He is in the parking
Speaker 1: lot of the it's probably the red roof in It's
Speaker 1: possible that it could have been the Super eight as well,
Speaker 1: because by each other. Yeah, it's on Crestwood Road, but
Speaker 1: it's on the opposite side of Interstate forty because Interstate
Speaker 1: forty cuts through this whole little pocket of gas stations
Speaker 1: and restaurants and hotels where he was at and his
Speaker 1: hotel was on one side of the freeway, and he
Speaker 1: was found dead in the parking lot of another hotel
Speaker 1: on the opposite side of the freeways. Yeah, it actually
Speaker 1: was like a parking area. I don't know if it
Speaker 1: had been paved yet or not. The hotel was under
Speaker 1: construction at the time. Yeah, I don't know. I don't
Speaker 1: know if it was paved, and I'm gonna so there's
Speaker 1: gonna be a bunch of people who were going to
Speaker 1: remember this case because they saw it on Unsolved Mysteries,
Speaker 1: which by the way, I managed to track it down.
Speaker 1: But we need to remember that Unsolved Mysteries is doing
Speaker 1: re enactments. So what you what I saw immediately it
Speaker 1: was like, oh, look at that the parking lot was
Speaker 1: paved and it was this colored building and oh, I
Speaker 1: can't I can't use those details because their re enactment details. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I saw a screen cap from that, and it
Speaker 1: was obviously not the same hotel because it was the
Speaker 1: red roof. It was the red roof, whereas body was rough. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the red roof, red red roof, it was Yeah, it
Speaker 1: wasn't red roof in the red roof is not like
Speaker 1: anything like the hotel in the picture. And so yeah,
Speaker 1: obviously just went out and found the nearest motel or
Speaker 1: hotel or something like that, which makes sense. It's okay,
Speaker 1: So I can I can point out something I watched
Speaker 1: that segment. There's a building number on the hotel that
Speaker 1: they take him to stay at. The building number does
Speaker 1: doesn't match anything in the area, So this is just
Speaker 1: kind of a clue that you can't rely on that.
Speaker 1: But the police obviously are called because there's a body.
Speaker 1: We got Blair dead on the ground with blood around
Speaker 1: him and money, uh, And so the cops investigate and
Speaker 1: they ruled it a homicide. Blair had so I couldn't
Speaker 1: get his actual autopsy or any of the records like that.
Speaker 1: I can't find him on the net. And I think
Speaker 1: part of that is because this case is technically still open.
Speaker 1: A cold case unit started looking into it again, I
Speaker 1: think four or five years ago. I think it's what
Speaker 1: I read, okay, But there are some things that indicate
Speaker 1: that he had defensive wounds on his hands and some
Speaker 1: smaller wounds on his body. And like we said, of
Speaker 1: course there's all that cash strewn about him. But the
Speaker 1: one thing about the defensive wounds U and one of
Speaker 1: the newspaper articles that I read about this that was
Speaker 1: written at the time shortly thereafter, he said that he
Speaker 1: had one wound on one hand that could have been
Speaker 1: a defensive wound it and I was, yeah, I'm when
Speaker 1: I haven't seen a whole lot to describe what the
Speaker 1: wounds are, so I I kind of have to take
Speaker 1: it at face value. That were defensive, but you're very
Speaker 1: You have a great point that it could have been
Speaker 1: that his hands were just banged up from something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's something totally unrelated to that way. You know. Actually
Speaker 1: I called the reporter that wrote that article. She works
Speaker 1: She works for the Knoxville News Sentinel. Yeah, because I
Speaker 1: told a couple of their articles. Yeah, I called her. Surprisingly,
Speaker 1: she answered her phone. She was very friendly and chatty,
Speaker 1: and so I asked her about this and she didn't
Speaker 1: remember it, and it was like twenty years ago. She
Speaker 1: was like, she covers like crime and murder, she said,
Speaker 1: she was I and I described it to her. She said,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, that kind of rings a bell, but I understand.
Speaker 1: She was like, you know, but I covered this murder
Speaker 1: stuff all the time, and you were like that feeling
Speaker 1: every week. So that's the game. But she gave me
Speaker 1: a phone number two to call the Knoxville p D.
Speaker 1: And I called them. I left a message, and they
Speaker 1: haven't called you back yet. No, actually they called me
Speaker 1: back to and it was just and that he told
Speaker 1: me that actually it's not their case, it's the Noxville
Speaker 1: County Sheriff's case. Okay, And so you gave me a
Speaker 1: name and a number to call. So so I called
Speaker 1: and left a message and I haven't heard back, Like
Speaker 1: this has to end. And then I haven't heard back. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and now i'll if I do hear back, we'll do
Speaker 1: an update or something. Yeah. Well, I mean something that
Speaker 1: could be construed as a defensive wound writers, like scrapes
Speaker 1: on the palms of your hands outside your hands, or
Speaker 1: like when you fall on gravel and like skid or
Speaker 1: you know, catch yourself or too angry and punch a
Speaker 1: wall that can be missing. Punching a wall could be misconstrued. Yes,
Speaker 1: I will agree scraping your hands on the ground not
Speaker 1: so much as much, but a little. I mean, it
Speaker 1: depends on how you fall. Very true. So Blair has
Speaker 1: he's got his Fannie pack near him and it's got
Speaker 1: all his money. His duffel bag is around the corner,
Speaker 1: by the way. It's not right with his body, it's
Speaker 1: kind of around the side of the building. And did
Speaker 1: we see his duffel bag in the foot. Yes, he
Speaker 1: had that duffle bags with him the whole time, and
Speaker 1: he kept it close like you would. He's laying on
Speaker 1: the ground that like I said, there was blood around.
Speaker 1: The body was face down up. I've never seen it
Speaker 1: described which way he was if they haven't released, it's
Speaker 1: hard to tell. Yeah, but okay, so let's describe the
Speaker 1: what we do know. We do know that he his
Speaker 1: shoes were off. We know that his socks were off
Speaker 1: and they were inside out, and we know his pants
Speaker 1: were pulled off when they were inside out. His socks
Speaker 1: were pulled off inside out. His socks were not on
Speaker 1: him and they were inside out. Okay, and the same
Speaker 1: goes for his pants. There's no mention of underwear, so
Speaker 1: I'm going to presume he was going commando. I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna make that presumption. Or it could be at the
Speaker 1: murderer pants and took the underwear. And that's really just
Speaker 1: some sort of a psycho that's really in the underwear.
Speaker 1: And he didn't care about the money. He just wanted those.
Speaker 1: She's one of those shorts hear the worst. This is
Speaker 1: the sort of thing. This is why we have to
Speaker 1: keep an eye on Joe. Uh. And then Blair's shirt
Speaker 1: was torn open like and like we said in the beginning,
Speaker 1: it may have just been popped open if it was
Speaker 1: a button up shirt and not actually shred tear open. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is uh, it would really be helpful, and I
Speaker 1: guess the police they're probably withholding these details. But there
Speaker 1: was blood because there was violence and there was blood.
Speaker 1: Would be helpful to know if the blood was on
Speaker 1: the inside of the outside of his pants, because that
Speaker 1: would tell us that the pants were pulled off after
Speaker 1: he was killed or before he was I haven't heard
Speaker 1: anything that ever said that there was blood on his
Speaker 1: pants inside or outside. But yeah, I've never seen anything
Speaker 1: that that said that mentions the blood on his clothes.
Speaker 1: I'm sure there was blood on his shirt because he
Speaker 1: was laying but I don't know of anything ever talking
Speaker 1: about it on his pants. The same thing with his
Speaker 1: socks and shoes. Just that kind of seems to me
Speaker 1: that if the killer, if if he was actually killed
Speaker 1: by somebody, that they were looking for something and they
Speaker 1: didn't care about them. That is that that fuels at
Speaker 1: least one, if not two, theories. Absolutely does. I don't know,
Speaker 1: you know what, they weren't looking for his car key
Speaker 1: to his white no to his white rental, his white
Speaker 1: toy camera. It was ten feet away from his body.
Speaker 1: What so he had the key the whole time? Or
Speaker 1: whoever killed him other key or we can go down
Speaker 1: that rabbit hole. I know it's totally the theory section
Speaker 1: in this, by the way, is going to feel like
Speaker 1: a mess. I've tried to organize, but it's the key
Speaker 1: is there. And by the way, we haven't said this,
Speaker 1: but what he died of, yeah, because there was blood
Speaker 1: around his body. And I don't know why there was
Speaker 1: blood around his body At good point, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know why there was blood around the body
Speaker 1: because the cause of death was blunt force trauma, which
Speaker 1: ruptured his stomach. That's hurt and hasn't hurt. Also, I
Speaker 1: don't Mike asp of anatomy is not the best, but
Speaker 1: I don't understand how that happens. But okay, so Joe
Speaker 1: actually again, Joe made the good move of contacting an expert.
Speaker 1: Force talked to our. I didn't talk to you. I
Speaker 1: send an email to our one of our listeners, Jeff,
Speaker 1: Hi Jeff, and he wrote me back. I just said
Speaker 1: what I was asking him was, if you get hit
Speaker 1: hard enough in the abdomen interrupture your stomach, would how
Speaker 1: long would it take you to die? And his answer,
Speaker 1: you know, does this does your heart stop? Because all
Speaker 1: the all the gross stuff in your stomach spills out
Speaker 1: and stops your heart and your back. He said, well,
Speaker 1: it all just depends, you know. It's it could be
Speaker 1: an hour, you know, several hours about bleeding out. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, it just all depends. But the other thing
Speaker 1: is that it's super hard to rupture the stomach. Well,
Speaker 1: it's it's really hard to unless the stomach is full. Likely, yeah,
Speaker 1: you have to be stuffed like and this is one
Speaker 1: of the things that that mystifies me. And of course, uh,
Speaker 1: you know again, security cameras were probably not a piquitous
Speaker 1: back in, but still that one hotel you once you
Speaker 1: had security cameras, I wouldn't be surprised if the nearby
Speaker 1: McDonald's and in other places had them usually, So I
Speaker 1: would say that according to what Jeff said, Um, if
Speaker 1: his stomach ruptured, it must have been full and he
Speaker 1: must have which means he must have had a nice
Speaker 1: big meal. So why didn't mean Nick canvass the area?
Speaker 1: Nobody saw him more than that? It seems like they
Speaker 1: should have been able to. Like, It's it's not as
Speaker 1: though his food would have been like fully digested. Really,
Speaker 1: probably if his stomach was full, enough that a blow
Speaker 1: would his stomach shouldn't have been digests couldn't have been
Speaker 1: digest So then they should have been able to test
Speaker 1: the contents of that and say, oh, it was a
Speaker 1: meal that was kind of like this, and these are
Speaker 1: the Donalds, or it's you know, it's the red robin
Speaker 1: around the corner, or he had a steak in these
Speaker 1: four places? Do steak with him? Are reasonable? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: so that's that's interesting. This is a bit of a
Speaker 1: puzzler for me. Yeah, how did he how did he
Speaker 1: get his stomach full without And then also like, how
Speaker 1: did he just die? Because it seems like that it
Speaker 1: seems reasonable to assume that this is the scene of
Speaker 1: the crime, right, his body wasn't really I think actually
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Yeah, if he was alive for
Speaker 1: several hours or even an hour, he could have come
Speaker 1: from a long distance away. I'm not a long distance,
Speaker 1: but he could have actually staggered, he could have actually
Speaker 1: have traveled some distance. So it's it's very possible that
Speaker 1: where he died is not where he sustained his injury. Yeah. Oh,
Speaker 1: and um, so we do have possibly one time frame
Speaker 1: indicator for the whole thing with Blair at the at
Speaker 1: the parking lot at the construction site. The security guard
Speaker 1: at the area for the construction area said that he
Speaker 1: heard at three thirty am a loud, short scream, which
Speaker 1: people say means it must have been Blair, but there's
Speaker 1: no way to know because that area has got people
Speaker 1: pouring in and out of it. Yeah, it could have
Speaker 1: been anybody. It also seemed again it's one of those
Speaker 1: things where it's like a trauma that's ongoing. Probably if
Speaker 1: he's bleeding out over the course of an hour or more,
Speaker 1: just scream and then follow like that's not going to happen.
Speaker 1: Probably know that's only the move. And the security guard also,
Speaker 1: I thought he said it sounded like a woman to him. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And also, by the way, what kind of a security
Speaker 1: guard was he? I mean, here's shaggy obviously. Yeah. I'm
Speaker 1: going to stay in here with my cookies. Yeah obviously, Yeah, cookie,
Speaker 1: you got that. Should we move on to the theories, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we have a boatload of theories on this way. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And again, just just to reiterate the so, the only
Speaker 1: people who who testified to having had contact with him
Speaker 1: were the gas station attendant, the hotel receptionist, and that's it. Well,
Speaker 1: and at the total driver, Oh yes, yeah, yeah, those
Speaker 1: are the three people that we know for sure that
Speaker 1: came forward and had interactions with him. Anybody else you
Speaker 1: met him never said a word. So yeah, but again
Speaker 1: he must have been those hours. He must have gone
Speaker 1: to a McDonald. You have to stop saying that because
Speaker 1: people are going to think they're sponsoring us. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: good point. Okay, not McDonald's, I take that back, forget it,
Speaker 1: white people brains. Yeah, let's let's say Jack in the box, Whitecastle. Yeah. Okay,
Speaker 1: So now that we've got that, let's go into theories. Okay,
Speaker 1: theory number one, the unnamed assassin bunk next. Ye, this
Speaker 1: is a popular one. It was very popular. So we've
Speaker 1: got to at least talked about a little bit. Is
Speaker 1: that people say that because Blair said that somebody was
Speaker 1: trying to kill him, that some unknown organization was after him. Okay,
Speaker 1: he worked for constructions company, So let's just let's pretend
Speaker 1: that he figured out that his company was doing something
Speaker 1: on the sly, you know, whether they're getting contracts directly
Speaker 1: or doing shoddy We're okay, we're just gonna say that's it,
Speaker 1: and we have no way of saying that's it, but
Speaker 1: we're just gonna run with that. So then his boss
Speaker 1: figures it out, or he thinks his boss figures it out,
Speaker 1: at which point he freaks out and decides to get
Speaker 1: out of town. The problem with this whole thing is
Speaker 1: that the assassin would have a squandered the chance over
Speaker 1: the course of the weekend to knock him off when
Speaker 1: he was still in town at home, and then chase
Speaker 1: him all over North America. Also, it's a pretty ineffective
Speaker 1: way to kill somebody. Well, that's it. It's inexact. It's
Speaker 1: not you don't know that you're actually gonna kill him.
Speaker 1: That functioned him in the gut like that. If if
Speaker 1: he's if that's what caused something to be rough, unless
Speaker 1: you're a ninja assassin, you know, and you know the
Speaker 1: killer deathblow. Yeah, it could be cobra strike. Okay, No,
Speaker 1: I mean I think it seems like he had been
Speaker 1: feeling like something was wrong for some time, so had
Speaker 1: he actually found out about something, he would have been
Speaker 1: murdered assassinated way earlier than that. It's really easy to
Speaker 1: make a construction thing look like an accident, right, Like,
Speaker 1: why wouldn't they just have that happen. They would have
Speaker 1: done that absolutely, Yeah, no, uh there. Now I do
Speaker 1: want to bring up so you will see this bandit
Speaker 1: about that the assassin was following him and when he
Speaker 1: got to the gas station in Knoxville swapped out his
Speaker 1: key so that he couldn't leave Nashville, which is Ville,
Speaker 1: which is so far so the assassin. Here's what I think.
Speaker 1: I think the assassin strangled the gas station attendant. The
Speaker 1: gas station attendant picked his pocket and swapped out the key. Yeah, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: I like him that one. Yeah, and I think the
Speaker 1: I've seen that one too, and that's the most absurd
Speaker 1: thing I've ever seen it. Yeah, and if if it's
Speaker 1: an assassin, you the assassin would have stayed with him
Speaker 1: until he was dead. If it's if it's an assassin
Speaker 1: worth their salt, and why then't then it makes me wonder. Okay,
Speaker 1: So what kind of weirdo is the assassin that they
Speaker 1: strip him? Oh? Well, I was bored. I just want
Speaker 1: to see if he'd move. I mean, it doesn't make
Speaker 1: any sense. It's the assassin one, I really it's it's
Speaker 1: it's weak sauce. So the only thing I could say
Speaker 1: for for the assassin. Thing is, if the assassin was
Speaker 1: looking for something again, that would be a good reason
Speaker 1: to pull his close off. And now they've made note
Speaker 1: of the money from the from the fanny pack scattered
Speaker 1: around the body. He's searching for something, tears up and
Speaker 1: tears up with the shirt, pulls off the path, shoes, everything,
Speaker 1: turns all that stuff inside out, looking for something. Could
Speaker 1: just be a piece of paper, might be a piece
Speaker 1: of jewelry, even gets it in the fannie pack, pulls
Speaker 1: out bottles of money and just throws it because he
Speaker 1: doesn't care about that. He's looking for something. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: not that's not their target. And and so he and
Speaker 1: so he and he might and he might not not.
Speaker 1: He may have meant only to temporary disabled this guy.
Speaker 1: He may have not actually intended to kill Blair. Maybe
Speaker 1: he just accidentally did so. But he was after or
Speaker 1: whatever he was after. And again, it could have been
Speaker 1: something in that. It could have been it could have
Speaker 1: been a sticky note with a password on it. I mean,
Speaker 1: it could have been something could Yeah, yeah, and so
Speaker 1: and and that's uh and so maybe that would that
Speaker 1: would explain the money being scattered around. Yeah, and so
Speaker 1: of course it's just a theory. Yeah, so well it's
Speaker 1: also again, this is all again to follow him all
Speaker 1: the way to Knoxville and not get and not lose
Speaker 1: him and also not be seen. But that's really good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're going to move on to the next theory. I
Speaker 1: do want to say one thing about about why we're
Speaker 1: gonna move on to the next theory. I know, the
Speaker 1: lost key. Okay, let's have it. If he really truly
Speaker 1: was being pursued, or at least believe he was being
Speaker 1: pursued by an assassin, it might be they only pretended
Speaker 1: to lose his key, so we'd have an excuse to halt,
Speaker 1: to call a guy to tow it away, to lock
Speaker 1: it up in a shop overnight so it couldn't be spotted. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess. Yeah. In other words, yeah, he
Speaker 1: wants to spend the night. He was up the whole
Speaker 1: previous night on an airplane. But the problem with that
Speaker 1: one is that presumably that person is following them, They're
Speaker 1: watching the whole thing. They're going to watch for that car,
Speaker 1: so there's going to be they're gonna see where he
Speaker 1: checks in. I mean, it would explain why he checked
Speaker 1: into a hotel paid for a hotel and then left right,
Speaker 1: but then they'll see him leave probably too. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's well, that's that's the thing is like maybe he
Speaker 1: felt like they had he had shaken them off, but
Speaker 1: that they were but they were all they were going
Speaker 1: to be looking for his car. Would explain why he
Speaker 1: was going in and out, like trying to make sure
Speaker 1: that he wasn't seeing the person he was fully wandered into.
Speaker 1: But be what if territory I'm sorry, I mean the
Speaker 1: the assassin one. I don't think it works, but and
Speaker 1: it's a total well what if? But you can so
Speaker 1: lose yourself in there and then reality just goes out
Speaker 1: the window. Yeah. Yeah, but that's just I'm a theorious
Speaker 1: to the lost because obviously had it on him the
Speaker 1: all time. I mean, or which or there's something else
Speaker 1: that could be and that's our next theory, which is
Speaker 1: the next theory is that he had an unknown traveling companion.
Speaker 1: Here's where you brought this up earlier, Devon. Okay, if
Speaker 1: you go through some of the early articles about Blair
Speaker 1: and the whole situation, one of them talks about the
Speaker 1: fact that in his Duffle bag he had receipts for
Speaker 1: every most of the things from his trip, and one
Speaker 1: of the things that was in his bag was a
Speaker 1: receipt for the rental car, which was signed for by
Speaker 1: somebody else, a fellow Canadian who is never named, by
Speaker 1: the way. So I can't I can't say, oh it
Speaker 1: was this person, but it's completely possible that Blair and
Speaker 1: this other person drove across the border. Blair and this
Speaker 1: other person got on a plane together, landed in d
Speaker 1: c and one and Blair rented the car and the
Speaker 1: other person got in the car and they drove that
Speaker 1: whole distance, at which point, as we talked about a
Speaker 1: little bit earlier, unknown person gets out of the car
Speaker 1: to go use the bathroom, has the car key with him,
Speaker 1: Blair has, you know, let's say it's his own key,
Speaker 1: trying to use and then completely flips out and this
Speaker 1: whole thing goes sideways. Now, why what happens between Blair
Speaker 1: and his now stranded traveling companion. I can't even fathom
Speaker 1: a gas. Well, he must have been in that, that's
Speaker 1: the thing. Though. He must have been in the bathroom
Speaker 1: hell of a long time. Well, it wasn't eight hour drive,
Speaker 1: I mean, not only not only what you have had
Speaker 1: to have been he or she had been the bathroom
Speaker 1: for a long time. I also just have a hard
Speaker 1: time with it because barring any kind of like psychotic
Speaker 1: break or something else going on with Blair at the
Speaker 1: exact same time, he would have said, oh, maybe my
Speaker 1: friend has it right, Like, there's no reason for him
Speaker 1: to have just ignored the fact that his totally amicable
Speaker 1: traveling partner had the key. Or even even if they
Speaker 1: were like, even if they had had this huge fight
Speaker 1: and the other person wandered off, he still probably would
Speaker 1: have said, oh crap, I think the other person of
Speaker 1: the key. He wouldn't have been like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I must have lost it first. This sign the signer
Speaker 1: was Blair, just signed a different name. That's always possible.
Speaker 1: The thing about it is if the friend was in
Speaker 1: the bathroom and you know, I made the bathroom part
Speaker 1: up completely, Yes, yeah, I'm totally I grabbed the bathroom
Speaker 1: so that the attendant didn't see this person. Okay, the
Speaker 1: friend could have been in the a bile or gone
Speaker 1: across the street to the taco. But the friend would
Speaker 1: have come back. Here's the deal. Yes, he would have
Speaker 1: come back. He would have found Blair and the car gone.
Speaker 1: He would have asked the guy what happened to my
Speaker 1: friend in our car, and that guy would have told
Speaker 1: the police about it. He didn't do that unless they
Speaker 1: had agreed the part ways at this place. Maybe the
Speaker 1: friend was going to meet somebody there and then go
Speaker 1: off on his own. I meansible, but I kind of
Speaker 1: doubt it. I I don't. I don't think that's it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's move to theory number three. Canadian drug dealers. They're
Speaker 1: the scariest, by the way. In articles, again this is
Speaker 1: again early reporting, you will see this line repeated over
Speaker 1: and over, which is and I quote there was a
Speaker 1: history of mental illness in his family, and Adams had
Speaker 1: spent years battling alcohol and drug addictions. I can't find
Speaker 1: the foundation of the statement. I just see it stated
Speaker 1: over and over. So it may just be a copy
Speaker 1: paste scenario that somebody tacked on by inferring something that
Speaker 1: somebody else said. I don't know where it came from. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I also want to make the point
Speaker 1: that there was no drug and alcohol or drug or
Speaker 1: alcohol found in his system when autopsy was done. He
Speaker 1: cleaned a whizzle. Yeah, well, yeah, it doesn't mean he
Speaker 1: didn't used to have a problem. He could have just
Speaker 1: cleaned up his act. That's absolutely right. This is actually
Speaker 1: and this is a perfect guy for a drug curier.
Speaker 1: You don't want a junkie, no, you want to you
Speaker 1: want a guy who's clean as can be. And it's
Speaker 1: entirely possible that Blair may have fallen in with the
Speaker 1: wrong people. And let's just say again, let's just presume
Speaker 1: that he was doing something. Let's presume that he was
Speaker 1: a courier. I think we talked about that earlier when
Speaker 1: he was trying to cross the border. He's a courier,
Speaker 1: and he's working for some bad people, and then he
Speaker 1: does something that makes them mad or thinks that they're
Speaker 1: mad him and that they're gonna get him, and has
Speaker 1: to get out of town because everybody knows that snitches
Speaker 1: get stitches. So he may have oh, oh, oh, I
Speaker 1: gotta go, I gotta get out of here. They are
Speaker 1: so gonna kill me. Yeah, I don't know. I agree
Speaker 1: that a clean person is usually the ideal candidate for
Speaker 1: drug slash money currying of any kind, but typically not
Speaker 1: somebody who's recovering. So if there was actually a history,
Speaker 1: if he was an ex drug abuser. Usually you aren't like, hey,
Speaker 1: I know you used to have this thing with drugs,
Speaker 1: but you're totally clean now. But we're gonna give you
Speaker 1: a bunch of drugs and just usually that's not the plan,
Speaker 1: not according to Hollywood. Well, okay, Hollywood, can you can
Speaker 1: You're you're pointing where Hollywood can stick. Okay, But here's
Speaker 1: the deal about this, the snitching too. There's lots of
Speaker 1: deals tonight. So he's he's a Surrey, right, So he's
Speaker 1: he's snitching to the sury Pah. Let's say he gets
Speaker 1: bust it. Yeah, so he's he's turned state's evidence, that's right.
Speaker 1: So so he's he's ratting out his friends to these guys.
Speaker 1: He's agreed to become an informant for them. And so
Speaker 1: if that's the case, and if you have Knoxville or
Speaker 1: p D and or the Knox County Sheriff's calling you
Speaker 1: up inquiring about this guy, aren't you isn't somebody going
Speaker 1: to make note of the fact that he was an informant? Okay,
Speaker 1: flip side on this, right, If he was an informant,
Speaker 1: if they still have an active sting going on, right,
Speaker 1: if it was a couple of people, and you don't
Speaker 1: want to like freak them out by saying, yeah, there
Speaker 1: was a c I in there, but he got killed,
Speaker 1: because then they'll think, oh, they're like, there might be
Speaker 1: more of the clean house. But here's the deal. It's
Speaker 1: been twenty years. I agree, they had plenty of time
Speaker 1: to wrap up that investigation and then then of murderers. Absolutely, yeah,
Speaker 1: so okay, fine, So therefore he couldn't have been a rat.
Speaker 1: But like you were saying with I mean, you call
Speaker 1: this reporter who reported on it and she was like,
Speaker 1: I don't come remember that case. It's possible it just
Speaker 1: fell through the cracks. You know, at the time they said, listen,
Speaker 1: we can't hold any information about this person. Okay, great,
Speaker 1: and then you know that was that, and then that's
Speaker 1: a possibility to just you know, somebody in the drug
Speaker 1: department in our go department in Surrey was not that
Speaker 1: wasn't their top priority of following up with the Knoxville
Speaker 1: Sheriff's department. But here's there's there's a deal one why
Speaker 1: I think it didn't fall through the cracks. So our
Speaker 1: drug kingpin here, a Canadian drug kingpin. His name is
Speaker 1: John Smith. He's got a file Blair is informing on him,
Speaker 1: and so Blair turns up dead through a violent sort
Speaker 1: of violent incident. So aren't you going to make a
Speaker 1: note in his and John Smith's file that somebody who
Speaker 1: was informing on him turned up dead through violent accident
Speaker 1: or possible? But it's but it's so far away, that's
Speaker 1: that's is so far away now that you will see
Speaker 1: things that say that, well, it was some kind of work,
Speaker 1: and they they faxed out his picture to all their yes,
Speaker 1: facted out his picture to all their gangs, and one
Speaker 1: of the gangs spotted him and did him in and
Speaker 1: take the money because it was it was proof of death,
Speaker 1: is what they needed to get paid. But like you
Speaker 1: would take the money though, you would, yeah, right, totally
Speaker 1: would take the money. No, I don't think it's a
Speaker 1: Canadian drug. I don't care how trailer park boys that is.
Speaker 1: I just they're not. Okay, let's go on to our
Speaker 1: our next international suspect, because we have another theory. Serious, Yes,
Speaker 1: this is actually out there, which is it's the Germans.
Speaker 1: If they were angry Germans otherwise known as sauer Krauts.
Speaker 1: You will see information out there from the sources that
Speaker 1: say that Blair had spent some time in Germany doing
Speaker 1: construction work, anywhere from two months to a year, depending
Speaker 1: on the source. Yeah I heard. I in one source,
Speaker 1: I heard three months. Four Yeah, yeah, it's it's all
Speaker 1: over the map. And that he also left before the
Speaker 1: job was done for unknown reasons. And also there is
Speaker 1: supposedly a woman involved, the German woman woman girl maybe yeah,
Speaker 1: you hear, you hear it's a young woman. Blair at
Speaker 1: this time. He was one when he died, so he
Speaker 1: probably Let's let's presume that this is accurate, because I
Speaker 1: have some serious concerns with some of this. But let's
Speaker 1: say that it's accurate. That means he would have been
Speaker 1: at the most thirty at that time, so hard to
Speaker 1: say it says she was underage. And then from here
Speaker 1: we get two theories. So this one, as we're going
Speaker 1: to see a lot of these, breaks into two different directions.
Speaker 1: The first direction is that Blair left Germany because her
Speaker 1: parents were angry and he had to go yep, and
Speaker 1: they maybe she was pregnant, or maybe she was ill.
Speaker 1: They were high profile something like that, um or maybe
Speaker 1: he they wanted him to pay up and he eventually did,
Speaker 1: or he was willing to do it, and then he
Speaker 1: realized that they were gonna betray him. Sounds like spy novel,
Speaker 1: I know, uh, And so he decides to go on
Speaker 1: the run, and then realizing that he's going to stiff him,
Speaker 1: these folks turn around and chase him down to collect
Speaker 1: their final payment, which is not in the form of
Speaker 1: money or The other direction this goes is that Blair
Speaker 1: decided he was going to go back to Germany to
Speaker 1: meet this girl, which is why he bought the ticket
Speaker 1: to Germany. But then something happened from some relation that
Speaker 1: scared him off, and that's why he went on the run.
Speaker 1: The the only thing that really ties is the German
Speaker 1: currency and the ticket to Germany. Well that's how that's
Speaker 1: where this this seems to come from. I guess part
Speaker 1: of it also maybe is if he wasn't some kind
Speaker 1: of trouble and you know, he was moody and trying
Speaker 1: to figure out what was going on, and his mom said, Blair,
Speaker 1: what's wrong and he he obviously isn't going to be like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, mom, I've knocked up a fifteen year
Speaker 1: old in Germany. That's what's wrong, you know, right, It's
Speaker 1: possible But here's where my concern with this whole German
Speaker 1: angle comes from. Oh, I had lots of concerns. Oh
Speaker 1: there's there's a very simple concern, which is how they
Speaker 1: find him. No, No, not at all. It's the source.
Speaker 1: The source of the German angle is what really makes
Speaker 1: me question it. Because there's a web website called sitcoms
Speaker 1: Online dot com and it's a forum, and in that forum,
Speaker 1: there is a user who is only posted six times,
Speaker 1: and all of them were about Blair's case, and that
Speaker 1: user goes by the name of nerd Girl, and nerd
Speaker 1: Girl talks all about Blair and their relationship and the
Speaker 1: whole thing that when I read it, because I've read
Speaker 1: Oliver posts, they sound either like trolling or attention, you know,
Speaker 1: garnering attention because I'm involved in this case. So nerd
Speaker 1: Girl was claiming to be the young woman that nerd
Speaker 1: Girl was a friend slash previous girlfriend of Blair and
Speaker 1: gives all these details. This is everything that you ever
Speaker 1: cite it find anywhere else that talks about his interactions
Speaker 1: in Germany and this potential issue. They're all stem from
Speaker 1: this set of posts. And I found one other person
Speaker 1: who also had a one time post that seemed to
Speaker 1: reveal a bunch of information about the case in this
Speaker 1: same thread, was that post one time that was something, right,
Speaker 1: I don't remember that particular person us or now that was,
Speaker 1: but that was the one who, if I recall right,
Speaker 1: revealed real quote unquote that he was bisexual, right, yes,
Speaker 1: and that yeah, yeah, yes, she claimed to be female
Speaker 1: to know him. And I think she posted at least
Speaker 1: twice and that's right if I remember, right, But you
Speaker 1: know it doesn't. And I think that that could all
Speaker 1: be just totally live. That's my problem. I'm not ripping
Speaker 1: on forums, but I'm also saying that when the only
Speaker 1: source of information comes here, I can't give it a
Speaker 1: whole lot of credit. Yeah, so, but again I want
Speaker 1: to I want to leave that where it is, knowing that, yeah,
Speaker 1: and there was also just just for for fun. Speaking
Speaker 1: to the German angle, the amount of variation on that was.
Speaker 1: Somebody out there said that it's possible that this girl
Speaker 1: was from a Muslim family, and since there's a substantial
Speaker 1: um Must population in Germany back then there was now
Speaker 1: there's a really substantial Muslim population in Germany. But and
Speaker 1: so it could have been an honor killing but again
Speaker 1: this runs this, This runs a ground on the rocks
Speaker 1: of Again, how the hell did they find him? Yeah,
Speaker 1: how did they track him down? He did a really
Speaker 1: good He did exactly what you do when you're trying
Speaker 1: to shake a tail. He changed his plants constantly, and
Speaker 1: he wouldn't know where that made sense. So yeah, that's
Speaker 1: that's where the whole thing runs a foul. Let's move
Speaker 1: to our next theory. Actually, this is the next one.
Speaker 1: Is the header for several theories, because again this is
Speaker 1: used dashes, not bullets. Let's see who you are, a
Speaker 1: heathen who doesn't know how to organize things obviously. Okay,
Speaker 1: our next theory is what's going on? It's that Blair
Speaker 1: was having some kind of mental break, some kind of
Speaker 1: socio effective disorder gets effective, is it schizer schitzo effective?
Speaker 1: I knew I was mispronouncing that, so that's why I
Speaker 1: double checked this time instead of just pretending I knew
Speaker 1: what the word was. I got us in trouble before.
Speaker 1: So it's possible that his behavior leading up to the
Speaker 1: time that he left town was showing when whatever he
Speaker 1: was suffering from was building steam and getting worse and
Speaker 1: worse and worse and From there we can split into
Speaker 1: several sub theories. The only actually, the only problem I
Speaker 1: have with this entire thing is that I don't I
Speaker 1: think typically if you're if you're a guy, and you're
Speaker 1: gonna get schizophrenia, it comes on between like eighteen and
Speaker 1: twenty five years ago. It's later than that. No, that's typical.
Speaker 1: I looked it up. It's between eighteen and it can
Speaker 1: it can set in later. So it is it's possible.
Speaker 1: It's not such a narrow band. Yeah, it's not not
Speaker 1: as likely as I would say. I've never I've never
Speaker 1: actually heard of anybody you know, getting a thirty one.
Speaker 1: Usually if you make it passed about your home free.
Speaker 1: Just to add if the accusations that Blair was a
Speaker 1: drug and alcohol abuser, there's a really strong causal connection.
Speaker 1: It's like not a proving connection, but a causal connection
Speaker 1: between drug and alcohol abuse and gets so effective disorders.
Speaker 1: And we talked about this in the bam er one
Speaker 1: right that like one, you know, it exacerbates the problem
Speaker 1: a little bit, but so that it's possible that maybe
Speaker 1: Blair was a little bit exhibiting signs in his like
Speaker 1: you know, and then just was trying to self medicate
Speaker 1: with drugs and alcohol, not exacerbated the problem with a
Speaker 1: little bit um and then when he took himself off
Speaker 1: of those things, it really came in full force. I
Speaker 1: don't know, that's I mean, again, I'm not a doctor,
Speaker 1: so I don't know. But what I have read is
Speaker 1: what Joe has read, that it's the eighteen but that
Speaker 1: it's not unheard of for somebody to kind of be
Speaker 1: self medicating. And then when you know, somebody says, hey,
Speaker 1: you're an alcoholic, you gotta go clean, and you say, okay,
Speaker 1: you go clean, and then all this other stuff things
Speaker 1: that were being masked by the by the addiction. Yeah. Absolutely, Okay,
Speaker 1: So we're gonna go into sub theory one, which is
Speaker 1: Blair made the wrong person mad. Yeah, because you know,
Speaker 1: people who have mental issues often uh say, and do
Speaker 1: an inappropriate things or come across come across like that. Yeah. No,
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's it's entirely possible. So I mean,
Speaker 1: if you think about it, if he is in an
Speaker 1: altered state and he leaves the place that he's familiar
Speaker 1: with and he's in this somebody's out to get me mindset,
Speaker 1: the farther he gets away from what he's familiar with.
Speaker 1: The deeper and deeper he's going to fall into this
Speaker 1: story that he's created for himself. And that would that
Speaker 1: would explain why he was acting so irrational or so
Speaker 1: strange in the hotel and and and then leaving. But
Speaker 1: he could have he could have gone to one of
Speaker 1: the restaurants. He could have gone to a gas station.
Speaker 1: He could have gone to a store in the area.
Speaker 1: He could have met the raunch trucker who didn't like
Speaker 1: what he was saying. He could have met somebody at
Speaker 1: McDonald's he or at Taco Bell, or he might have
Speaker 1: met the guy who was just frustrated and tired after
Speaker 1: driving his fifty ft RV all day long. I mean,
Speaker 1: it could be anybody who then gets upset by something
Speaker 1: he says or does an attacks. Because we've said this before,
Speaker 1: the people who were both likely to be hurt victims
Speaker 1: are are victims of mental illness. They're the ones who
Speaker 1: were likely to be the violent or experienced the violence,
Speaker 1: especially geo effective disorders. Yes, yeah, so he could have
Speaker 1: done that. And so somebody could have cot poed at
Speaker 1: him and taken a couple of swings at him and
Speaker 1: landed a lucky blow and then didn't know that they
Speaker 1: had done it. And then Blair wanders off. He goes
Speaker 1: to this hotel parking lot that's under construction. He's ill
Speaker 1: now because his stomach has been ruptured. It's hurting, probably
Speaker 1: feeling a little lightheaded from all the blood loss too.
Speaker 1: There's that he could have potentially could have had a
Speaker 1: very rapidly on setting fever of some kind. You know,
Speaker 1: his his temperature could have elevated, he could have felt
Speaker 1: like he was hot. He's in an altered state. Get
Speaker 1: these clothes off. They're hot, which to me explains why
Speaker 1: everything is inside out. A dude, and I'm lazy. I
Speaker 1: dropped my pants and I start stepping on him and
Speaker 1: pulling my legs out, and that pulls. If I'm wearing
Speaker 1: thicker socks, that'll pull both my pant leg inside out
Speaker 1: and start my sock going inside. Well. I mean, the
Speaker 1: other things think about is like if he died, for
Speaker 1: his stomach was ruptured, so he would have had one
Speaker 1: heck of a stomach ache, right, and like when my
Speaker 1: stomach rds, I don't my entire torso needs to have
Speaker 1: Like I do not want anything no pressure. Why their
Speaker 1: hurts so bad, so like I would strip my pants
Speaker 1: off too. I would just be like, these these hurt
Speaker 1: really bad, you know, especially if you are in an
Speaker 1: altered mental state, which probably are because your body's experienced
Speaker 1: some pretty big trauma. It's it's a damn shame though,
Speaker 1: that he didn't go get help, because where he was
Speaker 1: at he was in he was at this hotel is
Speaker 1: under construction, but it was right between two at the hotels. Well,
Speaker 1: I almost wonder. I almost wonder if he thought he
Speaker 1: was where he was supposed to be, or if or
Speaker 1: if he's still in his delusion he's hiding, or if
Speaker 1: if perhaps he's lost so much blood that he can't
Speaker 1: think straight. I don't know, but he was. He was
Speaker 1: actually he actually could have saved himself. I mean he
Speaker 1: was just, like I said, really close to two hotels
Speaker 1: or even I mean he was a construction worker, right,
Speaker 1: so like maybe in his kind of like going to
Speaker 1: and he was like, oh, I know like construction. Yeah
Speaker 1: that's a place I recognize, I know people who are there.
Speaker 1: I'll go there. Yeah, that's a great point. That's a
Speaker 1: familiar night. It's dark and like it's not great, but
Speaker 1: it's actually all that dark there because there was so
Speaker 1: many things around there that the place would have been
Speaker 1: fairly decently lit. But also you don't know what's going on.
Speaker 1: I mean, people's brains do really weird things when they're
Speaker 1: they've experienced that trauma. So to that he wasn't shocked probably,
Speaker 1: I'm sure it wasn't shocked because of the blood loss. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: although you know, it's interesting. You know he's he goes
Speaker 1: to the construction site. He's in construction. Did he actually
Speaker 1: maybe know somebody that was working on that project was
Speaker 1: at the point of making his little stop off in Knoxville,
Speaker 1: you are reaching for the brother. Oh my gosh, stop that.
Speaker 1: Let's move on to sub section two of this theory,
Speaker 1: which infers that it was some kind of self inflicted wound.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you can punch yourself that. No,
Speaker 1: So the way that this goes is there's one of
Speaker 1: in this one again the splinters. But there's two ways.
Speaker 1: Either he is blindly running and he runs into something
Speaker 1: let's just say there's you know, boards or something, and
Speaker 1: he hits himself in the gut. Or he climbs on
Speaker 1: something and falls off of it and falls down onto
Speaker 1: something that is sticking upright, and it hits him in
Speaker 1: the lower abdomen, below the ribs that would exude enough force.
Speaker 1: It also, to me, maybe would explain why people say
Speaker 1: it looks like defensive wounds, because if he fell, if
Speaker 1: he was falling, he either he would try to stop
Speaker 1: himself or his hands would flail and hit the things
Speaker 1: around him. Now, I don't think that that is what
Speaker 1: it is, but people say that it's possible that I'm
Speaker 1: wearing in that construction area, he may have fallen down
Speaker 1: on something or run into something. Wouldn't have to fall
Speaker 1: that far either, really, not really, He got take out
Speaker 1: and was choking and was trying to self Heimli, that's
Speaker 1: a good one. I like that one. That actually is
Speaker 1: a good one. Yeah, and missed that is reported to
Speaker 1: be found. Oh, but he could have wandered away from
Speaker 1: wherever he was eating at well after right, he like
Speaker 1: tried to self Timelick stopped choking obviously, you know, coughed
Speaker 1: up the little bit, was like, no, I don't feel good,
Speaker 1: all right, better try to walk back to my hotel.
Speaker 1: Confused about what hotel, because there's a jillion of them
Speaker 1: there and he obviously wasn't paying that much at tension.
Speaker 1: That's entirely possible, because that would be a thing. I mean,
Speaker 1: it would be pretty easy to if you were really
Speaker 1: really fall yeah accidentally, I don't know how easy it
Speaker 1: would be, but just as easy as it is to
Speaker 1: self inflict that wound, like at all. Right, Yeah, Now,
Speaker 1: if you really really wanted to self inflict the wound,
Speaker 1: you could actually probably do it if you found self
Speaker 1: and that that's sticking out of the wall and you're
Speaker 1: run into it with great force. Just you can't punch
Speaker 1: yourself in the gut that no, No, you'd have to
Speaker 1: run into something entirely. Yeah. The third sub theory in
Speaker 1: this group is that Blair was hit by a car.
Speaker 1: I don't put any stock in this because if he
Speaker 1: was hit by a car, I would expect more physical
Speaker 1: damage to his body, like broken bones, kind of damage
Speaker 1: that hard. Yes, although you know, you never know, because
Speaker 1: that's a that's a one in a million hits. It's
Speaker 1: not not that it's not possible, but it's unlikely. And
Speaker 1: don't tell where he was staying. The Fairfield end was
Speaker 1: on the opposite side of I forty from where his
Speaker 1: body was found, and he might have been crossing the
Speaker 1: freeway at night because I actually were a couple of
Speaker 1: restaurants on the other side of it. Maybe he's haading
Speaker 1: to get some food, he's crossing the freeway, gets hit
Speaker 1: by a car. Yeah, that's true, he would be but
Speaker 1: he's crossing back over and he gets hit by the car.
Speaker 1: If he's hit by a vehicle that's on a freeway
Speaker 1: doing sixty plus miles and again, so much more physical
Speaker 1: damage should have been done to his body. It would yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So again I I don't. I don't put a whole
Speaker 1: lot of stock in that. That's well yeah, and there's
Speaker 1: there's the other thing too, is it would have done
Speaker 1: other damage like so example that it hits him, doesn't
Speaker 1: break any ribs or anything like that, but it's gonna
Speaker 1: knock him over and he's gonna he's gonna he's got
Speaker 1: contusions on the back of his head. He would be
Speaker 1: covered in scrapes and bruce. So I'm not I'm not moving.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that one's a viable one, which takes
Speaker 1: us to our last one that you will see put
Speaker 1: out there, which is and there's no supporting evidence for this,
Speaker 1: but the area that he was at Strawberry Parkway Pike,
Speaker 1: Strawberry Planes. Thanks you. Yeah, it's complicated. It was not
Speaker 1: exactly the nicest place to be in the mid nineties,
Speaker 1: and the cops have talked about the fact that it's
Speaker 1: kind of a truck stop and prostitutes were known to
Speaker 1: be there, and it's believe that possibly Blair decided to
Speaker 1: I don't care, I'm just heading you off. This is
Speaker 1: a dumb theory because there's money all over him. Are
Speaker 1: you kidding me? Even if he did get a prostitute
Speaker 1: and either she tried to rob him, or he did
Speaker 1: something that freaked her out and she attacked him, or
Speaker 1: her pimp attacked him, they would not literally leave money
Speaker 1: on the table that does. So that's yeah, the whole,
Speaker 1: the whole prostitute angle is out there. But I don't
Speaker 1: think that that that's at all applause, that's not that's
Speaker 1: actually the end of all of our theories. I personally,
Speaker 1: I lean more towards the fact that he was probably
Speaker 1: in some kind of altered state and probably got hit
Speaker 1: by the wrong person physically, you know, had a physical alteration,
Speaker 1: not hit by a car. That's that's the one that
Speaker 1: what did I say alteration well, it was an alteration
Speaker 1: of the stomach. That's true technically, Yeah, yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: that's entirely conceivable that you know, some a guy or
Speaker 1: a couple of guys, you know, because if he truly
Speaker 1: was sets aphrenic, and I don't know that he really was,
Speaker 1: I'm just calling it an altered state because I don't
Speaker 1: know why I can't even get some kind of mood disorder. Yes, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I can see him. What you know, I see those
Speaker 1: guys walking down the street angrily, angrily talking to themselves,
Speaker 1: you know, and I can see somebody like hearing that
Speaker 1: and taking offense thinking is directed at them. I mean
Speaker 1: maybe I don't know or you know, you, I mean,
Speaker 1: there's I've seen this, the same thing you see walking
Speaker 1: down the street and someone comes into their field of
Speaker 1: vision and it's a completely different person to them, and
Speaker 1: they are having a completely different experience and in somebody's face,
Speaker 1: and that person is like, WHOA, get away from me,
Speaker 1: you're freaking me out. You're in my bubble. And it
Speaker 1: usually involves some yelling and some shoving. So that's why,
Speaker 1: that's why I'm inclined to believe that that maybe what happened. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know how I feel about it. I think
Speaker 1: probably the Nazis that was a theory, right, the Nazis
Speaker 1: never actually were aliens? Was that a theory? They were,
Speaker 1: but they got caught in the third revision of the
Speaker 1: script the night. Yeah, I don't know where I stand.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I can't go to my two tropes I said,
Speaker 1: I'm done. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. I'm
Speaker 1: inclined to think that it was some about half and
Speaker 1: half I'm going to go six sixty that it was
Speaker 1: some sort of an accident, and forty that it was
Speaker 1: a fight a fight. I just don't think. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't really. The assassination thing does seem really crazy. But
Speaker 1: also I don't have a good explanation as to why
Speaker 1: he couldn't find his car keys. That's the big outlier
Speaker 1: for me. Well, again, I kind of like my theory
Speaker 1: is that he was pretending to not be able to
Speaker 1: find his car keys so that he could have a toad.
Speaker 1: And that makes no sense, Joe, because my person you
Speaker 1: was following him would have had to have been close
Speaker 1: enough for him to realize that they were there. I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess I pull that room. Unless you thought you
Speaker 1: thought you were being followed and you weren't, And if
Speaker 1: it was totally in his mind, he thinks he's being followed,
Speaker 1: he thinks he's shaking them. But he doesn't want to
Speaker 1: leave the car out or it could be found and spotted,
Speaker 1: you know, by somebody. So while he's overnight in a hotel,
Speaker 1: he wants a car to be locked up somewhere behind
Speaker 1: closed doors. And it was found at a shop. It
Speaker 1: was found at a mechanic spot. It doesn't mean it
Speaker 1: was actually locked up in the shop. That it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: It's it's not at a hotel and as far away
Speaker 1: and as far away from him. So yeah, and so
Speaker 1: that it could have been part of the whole paranoia thing.
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