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Speaker 1: Sideways to learn more Thinking Sideways. I don't just stories

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Speaker 1: of things we simply don't know the answer too. Hey, everybody,

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Speaker 1: welcome again to another episode of Thinking Sideways. I am Steve,

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Speaker 1: of course, joined by Yeah, I don't forget my pseudonym.

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Speaker 1: I also say I was gonna say Devon because it's

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Speaker 1: your real name. This week, we've got another mystery, which

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Speaker 1: is not how do we do the same bit every week,

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Speaker 1: but instead a real mystery. Uh. This week we're gonna

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Speaker 1: be talking about Well, this is kind of an oddball

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Speaker 1: keep reading over and over and over and you just

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Speaker 1: kind of scratch your head, going what's going on? Yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And this is the death of a gentleman by the

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Speaker 1: by Denise you. We do get to them, yes, we do.

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Speaker 1: Usually is it really? And it just keeps growing? Okay,

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Speaker 1: We'll let me give everybody a quick summary before we

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Speaker 1: get into the story because there is kind of a

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Speaker 1: bunch of details here. Blair Adams was a Canadian man

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Speaker 1: whose body was found on the eleventh of July in

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Speaker 1: There was somewhere between four to six thousand dollars in

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Speaker 1: in precious metals and jewelry. And was that that was

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Speaker 1: That was his fanny pack, right, that was his fanny pack.

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Speaker 1: So that wasn't that wasn't on him, that was near him? Right? No, No,

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Speaker 1: fact that I was holding on it that he had

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Speaker 1: a fanny pack ruined the night. But by all indications,

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Speaker 1: Blair had no reason to be in Knoxville, and it

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Speaker 1: doesn't appear that he knew anybody there, so we don't

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Speaker 1: really know what happened and why he died there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and it's obviously not a robbery, not unless there was

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Speaker 1: very beginning of the story. Blair Adams was thirty one

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Speaker 1: And it's uh, I couldn't ever tell if it was

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's Sara quivalent of the county. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: And this is kind of important in that that relationship

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Speaker 1: And forgive me, I may have missed it, but has

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Speaker 1: So Blair goes to the bank, gets all his money.

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Speaker 1: to believe that he got a ride. But you do

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00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,400
Speaker 1: see some places where people will say and then he walked,

426
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,560
Speaker 1: or they will say he hitchhike. I'm not inclined to

427
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 1: buy that. I mean, if you've got a tow truck driver,

428
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:48,680
Speaker 1: then you get a ride from the tow truck driver

429
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 1: because you don't know where you are, usually dirt. But

430
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,919
Speaker 1: you'll see it both ways. He's now at a hotel,

431
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,399
Speaker 1: because we've just talked about that. He gets to this

432
00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:04,200
Speaker 1: hotel somehow and he walks into the hotel and he uh,

433
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 1: and I'm almost certain that he, by the way, was

434
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 1: at the Fairfield in in suits. Yeah, And he goes

435
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,960
Speaker 1: ahead and he walks into the lobby, he hangs out,

436
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 1: and then he does he exhibited some very odd behavior.

437
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 1: He's there for an hour, in and out of the

438
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 1: lobby a total of five times before he finally gets

439
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 1: a room. People have watched the surveillance taping the room

440
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,360
Speaker 1: or asks for a room. He pays for a room. Okay,

441
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 1: so no, I mean that's a big difference, right. It's

442
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 1: one thing to just be this random person who's walking

443
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:42,879
Speaker 1: in back and forth. It's another to like walk up

444
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:44,959
Speaker 1: to the counter and say I need a room and

445
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 1: then kind of hang out. Let me clarify. He walked

446
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 1: in and out, hung out, hung out, hung out that

447
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:57,119
Speaker 1: entire hour before requesting the clarification. I was so he

448
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,359
Speaker 1: he hung out in the lobby, wandered around like he

449
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 1: was waiting for somebody. Is what the tape looks like,

450
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:06,719
Speaker 1: and then finally goes up to the counter pays for

451
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:08,920
Speaker 1: a room, which, by the way, again this is another

452
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,640
Speaker 1: point where he doesn't seem to care about money. He

453
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 1: pays for a fifty dollar room with a hundred dollar

454
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 1: bill and doesn't stick around for his change. Did he

455
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 1: have a cell phone, Not that I know of. I've

456
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 1: never seen mention of a cell phone, never seen mention

457
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 1: of anything like that at all. And that's between about

458
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 1: six and seven pm, right on the night. So he

459
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 1: left the hotel. From the footage, he walked out of

460
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 1: the hotel at seven pm. He got there somewhere around

461
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:46,120
Speaker 1: someone like that, and then did his milling about before leaving,

462
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 1: at which point he leaves the hotel. And we have

463
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 1: no idea what he does at all for the rest

464
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 1: of that evening and over the course of that fall

465
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 1: allowing night. Actually I have an idea what he did.

466
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 1: He got killed. He died in between the Yeah, that's true,

467
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 1: that's accurate. We did solve this mystery, kind of do that. Okay.

468
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 1: So the next day, which laughing shouldn't be I'm laughing

469
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 1: at Joe, I'm not laughing at the case. At seven

470
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 1: thirty in the morning, a construction crew shows up at

471
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 1: their work site, which is another hotel. Again, there's hotels.

472
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,479
Speaker 1: This place is just lousy with hotels. That's strip. I mean,

473
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 1: every every place has that strip outside of town. I

474
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:41,160
Speaker 1: personally think this particular spot has an excessive number of hotels.

475
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 1: That counted, there's thirteen hotels there and it's like a

476
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 1: mile and a half by a mile and a half.

477
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 1: It's there's there's a stretch of road right outside of

478
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,879
Speaker 1: d i A that has like fourteen or fifteen but

479
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,439
Speaker 1: that's by an airport. Yeah, well this is outside of

480
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 1: a major city. Okay, okay, So he is found. This

481
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:11,120
Speaker 1: construction crew finds player's body. He is in the parking

482
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:16,120
Speaker 1: lot of the it's probably the red roof in It's

483
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:17,919
Speaker 1: possible that it could have been the Super eight as well,

484
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 1: because by each other. Yeah, it's on Crestwood Road, but

485
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 1: it's on the opposite side of Interstate forty because Interstate

486
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 1: forty cuts through this whole little pocket of gas stations

487
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 1: and restaurants and hotels where he was at and his

488
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 1: hotel was on one side of the freeway, and he

489
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: was found dead in the parking lot of another hotel

490
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,679
Speaker 1: on the opposite side of the freeways. Yeah, it actually

491
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 1: was like a parking area. I don't know if it

492
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 1: had been paved yet or not. The hotel was under

493
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 1: construction at the time. Yeah, I don't know. I don't

494
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 1: know if it was paved, and I'm gonna so there's

495
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 1: gonna be a bunch of people who were going to

496
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,400
Speaker 1: remember this case because they saw it on Unsolved Mysteries,

497
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 1: which by the way, I managed to track it down.

498
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: But we need to remember that Unsolved Mysteries is doing

499
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 1: re enactments. So what you what I saw immediately it

500
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 1: was like, oh, look at that the parking lot was

501
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 1: paved and it was this colored building and oh, I

502
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 1: can't I can't use those details because their re enactment details. Yeah. Yeah,

503
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 1: and I saw a screen cap from that, and it

504
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 1: was obviously not the same hotel because it was the

505
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 1: red roof. It was the red roof, whereas body was rough. Yeah,

506
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,679
Speaker 1: the red roof, red red roof, it was Yeah, it

507
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 1: wasn't red roof in the red roof is not like

508
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 1: anything like the hotel in the picture. And so yeah,

509
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 1: obviously just went out and found the nearest motel or

510
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 1: hotel or something like that, which makes sense. It's okay,

511
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 1: So I can I can point out something I watched

512
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 1: that segment. There's a building number on the hotel that

513
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 1: they take him to stay at. The building number does

514
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 1: doesn't match anything in the area, So this is just

515
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 1: kind of a clue that you can't rely on that.

516
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 1: But the police obviously are called because there's a body.

517
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 1: We got Blair dead on the ground with blood around

518
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 1: him and money, uh, And so the cops investigate and

519
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 1: they ruled it a homicide. Blair had so I couldn't

520
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 1: get his actual autopsy or any of the records like that.

521
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 1: I can't find him on the net. And I think

522
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 1: part of that is because this case is technically still open.

523
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 1: A cold case unit started looking into it again, I

524
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: think four or five years ago. I think it's what

525
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 1: I read, okay, But there are some things that indicate

526
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 1: that he had defensive wounds on his hands and some

527
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: smaller wounds on his body. And like we said, of

528
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 1: course there's all that cash strewn about him. But the

529
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: one thing about the defensive wounds U and one of

530
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 1: the newspaper articles that I read about this that was

531
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 1: written at the time shortly thereafter, he said that he

532
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: had one wound on one hand that could have been

533
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 1: a defensive wound it and I was, yeah, I'm when

534
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 1: I haven't seen a whole lot to describe what the

535
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 1: wounds are, so I I kind of have to take

536
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 1: it at face value. That were defensive, but you're very

537
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 1: You have a great point that it could have been

538
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 1: that his hands were just banged up from something. Yeah,

539
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 1: it's something totally unrelated to that way. You know. Actually

540
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 1: I called the reporter that wrote that article. She works

541
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 1: She works for the Knoxville News Sentinel. Yeah, because I

542
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 1: told a couple of their articles. Yeah, I called her. Surprisingly,

543
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 1: she answered her phone. She was very friendly and chatty,

544
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 1: and so I asked her about this and she didn't

545
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 1: remember it, and it was like twenty years ago. She

546
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 1: was like, she covers like crime and murder, she said,

547
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 1: she was I and I described it to her. She said,

548
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 1: oh yeah, that kind of rings a bell, but I understand.

549
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: She was like, you know, but I covered this murder

550
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: stuff all the time, and you were like that feeling

551
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 1: every week. So that's the game. But she gave me

552
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 1: a phone number two to call the Knoxville p D.

553
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 1: And I called them. I left a message, and they

554
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 1: haven't called you back yet. No, actually they called me

555
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 1: back to and it was just and that he told

556
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 1: me that actually it's not their case, it's the Noxville

557
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 1: County Sheriff's case. Okay, And so you gave me a

558
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 1: name and a number to call. So so I called

559
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: and left a message and I haven't heard back, Like

560
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 1: this has to end. And then I haven't heard back. Yeah,

561
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 1: and now i'll if I do hear back, we'll do

562
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 1: an update or something. Yeah. Well, I mean something that

563
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 1: could be construed as a defensive wound writers, like scrapes

564
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: on the palms of your hands outside your hands, or

565
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: like when you fall on gravel and like skid or

566
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 1: you know, catch yourself or too angry and punch a

567
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 1: wall that can be missing. Punching a wall could be misconstrued. Yes,

568
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: I will agree scraping your hands on the ground not

569
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 1: so much as much, but a little. I mean, it

570
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 1: depends on how you fall. Very true. So Blair has

571
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 1: he's got his Fannie pack near him and it's got

572
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 1: all his money. His duffel bag is around the corner,

573
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: by the way. It's not right with his body, it's

574
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 1: kind of around the side of the building. And did

575
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 1: we see his duffel bag in the foot. Yes, he

576
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 1: had that duffle bags with him the whole time, and

577
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 1: he kept it close like you would. He's laying on

578
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 1: the ground that like I said, there was blood around.

579
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 1: The body was face down up. I've never seen it

580
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 1: described which way he was if they haven't released, it's

581
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: hard to tell. Yeah, but okay, so let's describe the

582
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 1: what we do know. We do know that he his

583
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 1: shoes were off. We know that his socks were off

584
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 1: and they were inside out, and we know his pants

585
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 1: were pulled off when they were inside out. His socks

586
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 1: were pulled off inside out. His socks were not on

587
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 1: him and they were inside out. Okay, and the same

588
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: goes for his pants. There's no mention of underwear, so

589
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: I'm going to presume he was going commando. I'm just

590
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 1: gonna make that presumption. Or it could be at the

591
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 1: murderer pants and took the underwear. And that's really just

592
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: some sort of a psycho that's really in the underwear.

593
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: And he didn't care about the money. He just wanted those.

594
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 1: She's one of those shorts hear the worst. This is

595
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 1: the sort of thing. This is why we have to

596
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 1: keep an eye on Joe. Uh. And then Blair's shirt

597
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 1: was torn open like and like we said in the beginning,

598
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: it may have just been popped open if it was

599
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 1: a button up shirt and not actually shred tear open. Yeah,

600
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: this is uh, it would really be helpful, and I

601
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: guess the police they're probably withholding these details. But there

602
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 1: was blood because there was violence and there was blood.

603
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: Would be helpful to know if the blood was on

604
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: the inside of the outside of his pants, because that

605
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 1: would tell us that the pants were pulled off after

606
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 1: he was killed or before he was I haven't heard

607
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 1: anything that ever said that there was blood on his

608
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 1: pants inside or outside. But yeah, I've never seen anything

609
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: that that said that mentions the blood on his clothes.

610
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 1: I'm sure there was blood on his shirt because he

611
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 1: was laying but I don't know of anything ever talking

612
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: about it on his pants. The same thing with his

613
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 1: socks and shoes. Just that kind of seems to me

614
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: that if the killer, if if he was actually killed

615
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 1: by somebody, that they were looking for something and they

616
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: didn't care about them. That is that that fuels at

617
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 1: least one, if not two, theories. Absolutely does. I don't know,

618
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,879
Speaker 1: you know what, they weren't looking for his car key

619
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: to his white no to his white rental, his white

620
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 1: toy camera. It was ten feet away from his body.

621
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 1: What so he had the key the whole time? Or

622
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 1: whoever killed him other key or we can go down

623
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 1: that rabbit hole. I know it's totally the theory section

624
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: in this, by the way, is going to feel like

625
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:35,439
Speaker 1: a mess. I've tried to organize, but it's the key

626
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 1: is there. And by the way, we haven't said this,

627
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: but what he died of, yeah, because there was blood

628
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: around his body. And I don't know why there was

629
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,479
Speaker 1: blood around his body At good point, I don't know.

630
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 1: I don't know why there was blood around the body

631
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 1: because the cause of death was blunt force trauma, which

632
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 1: ruptured his stomach. That's hurt and hasn't hurt. Also, I

633
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 1: don't Mike asp of anatomy is not the best, but

634
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 1: I don't understand how that happens. But okay, so Joe

635
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:12,280
Speaker 1: actually again, Joe made the good move of contacting an expert.

636
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 1: Force talked to our. I didn't talk to you. I

637
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: send an email to our one of our listeners, Jeff,

638
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: Hi Jeff, and he wrote me back. I just said

639
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 1: what I was asking him was, if you get hit

640
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 1: hard enough in the abdomen interrupture your stomach, would how

641
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: long would it take you to die? And his answer,

642
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:31,879
Speaker 1: you know, does this does your heart stop? Because all

643
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:33,879
Speaker 1: the all the gross stuff in your stomach spills out

644
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,359
Speaker 1: and stops your heart and your back. He said, well,

645
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 1: it all just depends, you know. It's it could be

646
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:42,760
Speaker 1: an hour, you know, several hours about bleeding out. Uh,

647
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,359
Speaker 1: you know, it just all depends. But the other thing

648
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: is that it's super hard to rupture the stomach. Well,

649
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 1: it's it's really hard to unless the stomach is full. Likely, yeah,

650
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 1: you have to be stuffed like and this is one

651
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: of the things that that mystifies me. And of course, uh,

652
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: you know again, security cameras were probably not a piquitous

653
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 1: back in, but still that one hotel you once you

654
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 1: had security cameras, I wouldn't be surprised if the nearby

655
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 1: McDonald's and in other places had them usually, So I

656
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: would say that according to what Jeff said, Um, if

657
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 1: his stomach ruptured, it must have been full and he

658
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 1: must have which means he must have had a nice

659
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 1: big meal. So why didn't mean Nick canvass the area?

660
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: Nobody saw him more than that? It seems like they

661
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 1: should have been able to. Like, It's it's not as

662
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,720
Speaker 1: though his food would have been like fully digested. Really,

663
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 1: probably if his stomach was full, enough that a blow

664
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 1: would his stomach shouldn't have been digests couldn't have been

665
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 1: digest So then they should have been able to test

666
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: the contents of that and say, oh, it was a

667
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: meal that was kind of like this, and these are

668
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:49,720
Speaker 1: the Donalds, or it's you know, it's the red robin

669
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 1: around the corner, or he had a steak in these

670
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:55,359
Speaker 1: four places? Do steak with him? Are reasonable? Yeah? Yeah,

671
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: so that's that's interesting. This is a bit of a

672
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,320
Speaker 1: puzzler for me. Yeah, how did he how did he

673
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 1: get his stomach full without And then also like, how

674
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 1: did he just die? Because it seems like that it

675
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 1: seems reasonable to assume that this is the scene of

676
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: the crime, right, his body wasn't really I think actually

677
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Yeah, if he was alive for

678
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 1: several hours or even an hour, he could have come

679
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 1: from a long distance away. I'm not a long distance,

680
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 1: but he could have actually staggered, he could have actually

681
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:25,959
Speaker 1: have traveled some distance. So it's it's very possible that

682
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:30,720
Speaker 1: where he died is not where he sustained his injury. Yeah. Oh,

683
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 1: and um, so we do have possibly one time frame

684
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: indicator for the whole thing with Blair at the at

685
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 1: the parking lot at the construction site. The security guard

686
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: at the area for the construction area said that he

687
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: heard at three thirty am a loud, short scream, which

688
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 1: people say means it must have been Blair, but there's

689
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 1: no way to know because that area has got people

690
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: pouring in and out of it. Yeah, it could have

691
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: been anybody. It also seemed again it's one of those

692
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 1: things where it's like a trauma that's ongoing. Probably if

693
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 1: he's bleeding out over the course of an hour or more,

694
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: just scream and then follow like that's not going to happen.

695
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 1: Probably know that's only the move. And the security guard also,

696
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: I thought he said it sounded like a woman to him. Yeah.

697
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:28,800
Speaker 1: And also, by the way, what kind of a security

698
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 1: guard was he? I mean, here's shaggy obviously. Yeah. I'm

699
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 1: going to stay in here with my cookies. Yeah obviously, Yeah, cookie,

700
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:45,479
Speaker 1: you got that. Should we move on to the theories, Yeah,

701
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:47,879
Speaker 1: we have a boatload of theories on this way. Yeah.

702
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 1: And again, just just to reiterate the so, the only

703
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 1: people who who testified to having had contact with him

704
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:59,240
Speaker 1: were the gas station attendant, the hotel receptionist, and that's it. Well,

705
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: and at the total driver, Oh yes, yeah, yeah, those

706
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 1: are the three people that we know for sure that

707
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 1: came forward and had interactions with him. Anybody else you

708
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 1: met him never said a word. So yeah, but again

709
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 1: he must have been those hours. He must have gone

710
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: to a McDonald. You have to stop saying that because

711
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 1: people are going to think they're sponsoring us. Oh yeah,

712
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: good point. Okay, not McDonald's, I take that back, forget it,

713
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:32,720
Speaker 1: white people brains. Yeah, let's let's say Jack in the box, Whitecastle. Yeah. Okay,

714
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 1: So now that we've got that, let's go into theories. Okay,

715
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 1: theory number one, the unnamed assassin bunk next. Ye, this

716
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 1: is a popular one. It was very popular. So we've

717
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: got to at least talked about a little bit. Is

718
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: that people say that because Blair said that somebody was

719
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 1: trying to kill him, that some unknown organization was after him. Okay,

720
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: he worked for constructions company, So let's just let's pretend

721
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,840
Speaker 1: that he figured out that his company was doing something

722
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,320
Speaker 1: on the sly, you know, whether they're getting contracts directly

723
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: or doing shoddy We're okay, we're just gonna say that's it,

724
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: and we have no way of saying that's it, but

725
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 1: we're just gonna run with that. So then his boss

726
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 1: figures it out, or he thinks his boss figures it out,

727
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 1: at which point he freaks out and decides to get

728
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: out of town. The problem with this whole thing is

729
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 1: that the assassin would have a squandered the chance over

730
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: the course of the weekend to knock him off when

731
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 1: he was still in town at home, and then chase

732
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: him all over North America. Also, it's a pretty ineffective

733
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 1: way to kill somebody. Well, that's it. It's inexact. It's

734
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 1: not you don't know that you're actually gonna kill him.

735
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: That functioned him in the gut like that. If if

736
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,280
Speaker 1: he's if that's what caused something to be rough, unless

737
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 1: you're a ninja assassin, you know, and you know the

738
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 1: killer deathblow. Yeah, it could be cobra strike. Okay, No,

739
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 1: I mean I think it seems like he had been

740
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 1: feeling like something was wrong for some time, so had

741
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 1: he actually found out about something, he would have been

742
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: murdered assassinated way earlier than that. It's really easy to

743
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 1: make a construction thing look like an accident, right, Like,

744
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 1: why wouldn't they just have that happen. They would have

745
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 1: done that absolutely, Yeah, no, uh there. Now I do

746
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 1: want to bring up so you will see this bandit

747
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 1: about that the assassin was following him and when he

748
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 1: got to the gas station in Knoxville swapped out his

749
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 1: key so that he couldn't leave Nashville, which is Ville,

750
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 1: which is so far so the assassin. Here's what I think.

751
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 1: I think the assassin strangled the gas station attendant. The

752
00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:03,240
Speaker 1: gas station attendant picked his pocket and swapped out the key. Yeah, okay, okay,

753
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 1: I like him that one. Yeah, and I think the

754
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 1: I've seen that one too, and that's the most absurd

755
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 1: thing I've ever seen it. Yeah, and if if it's

756
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:15,839
Speaker 1: an assassin, you the assassin would have stayed with him

757
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 1: until he was dead. If it's if it's an assassin

758
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: worth their salt, and why then't then it makes me wonder. Okay,

759
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 1: So what kind of weirdo is the assassin that they

760
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 1: strip him? Oh? Well, I was bored. I just want

761
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: to see if he'd move. I mean, it doesn't make

762
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 1: any sense. It's the assassin one, I really it's it's

763
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,359
Speaker 1: it's weak sauce. So the only thing I could say

764
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 1: for for the assassin. Thing is, if the assassin was

765
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 1: looking for something again, that would be a good reason

766
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: to pull his close off. And now they've made note

767
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 1: of the money from the from the fanny pack scattered

768
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 1: around the body. He's searching for something, tears up and

769
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 1: tears up with the shirt, pulls off the path, shoes, everything,

770
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 1: turns all that stuff inside out, looking for something. Could

771
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:00,959
Speaker 1: just be a piece of paper, might be a piece

772
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: of jewelry, even gets it in the fannie pack, pulls

773
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 1: out bottles of money and just throws it because he

774
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 1: doesn't care about that. He's looking for something. Yeah, that's

775
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 1: not that's not their target. And and so he and

776
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 1: so he and he might and he might not not.

777
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:16,439
Speaker 1: He may have meant only to temporary disabled this guy.

778
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: He may have not actually intended to kill Blair. Maybe

779
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: he just accidentally did so. But he was after or

780
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,359
Speaker 1: whatever he was after. And again, it could have been

781
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 1: something in that. It could have been it could have

782
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 1: been a sticky note with a password on it. I mean,

783
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 1: it could have been something could Yeah, yeah, and so

784
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 1: and and that's uh and so maybe that would that

785
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 1: would explain the money being scattered around. Yeah, and so

786
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 1: of course it's just a theory. Yeah, so well it's

787
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 1: also again, this is all again to follow him all

788
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,760
Speaker 1: the way to Knoxville and not get and not lose

789
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 1: him and also not be seen. But that's really good. Yeah,

790
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 1: we're going to move on to the next theory. I

791
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 1: do want to say one thing about about why we're

792
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: gonna move on to the next theory. I know, the

793
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 1: lost key. Okay, let's have it. If he really truly

794
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 1: was being pursued, or at least believe he was being

795
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:10,760
Speaker 1: pursued by an assassin, it might be they only pretended

796
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 1: to lose his key, so we'd have an excuse to halt,

797
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:14,439
Speaker 1: to call a guy to tow it away, to lock

798
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:18,280
Speaker 1: it up in a shop overnight so it couldn't be spotted. Yeah,

799
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess. Yeah. In other words, yeah, he

800
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,879
Speaker 1: wants to spend the night. He was up the whole

801
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 1: previous night on an airplane. But the problem with that

802
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 1: one is that presumably that person is following them, They're

803
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 1: watching the whole thing. They're going to watch for that car,

804
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 1: so there's going to be they're gonna see where he

805
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 1: checks in. I mean, it would explain why he checked

806
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 1: into a hotel paid for a hotel and then left right,

807
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 1: but then they'll see him leave probably too. I mean,

808
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: it's well, that's that's the thing is like maybe he

809
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 1: felt like they had he had shaken them off, but

810
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 1: that they were but they were all they were going

811
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: to be looking for his car. Would explain why he

812
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 1: was going in and out, like trying to make sure

813
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 1: that he wasn't seeing the person he was fully wandered into.

814
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 1: But be what if territory I'm sorry, I mean the

815
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 1: the assassin one. I don't think it works, but and

816
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 1: it's a total well what if? But you can so

817
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 1: lose yourself in there and then reality just goes out

818
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: the window. Yeah. Yeah, but that's just I'm a theorious

819
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 1: to the lost because obviously had it on him the

820
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 1: all time. I mean, or which or there's something else

821
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 1: that could be and that's our next theory, which is

822
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 1: the next theory is that he had an unknown traveling companion.

823
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:38,439
Speaker 1: Here's where you brought this up earlier, Devon. Okay, if

824
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 1: you go through some of the early articles about Blair

825
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: and the whole situation, one of them talks about the

826
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 1: fact that in his Duffle bag he had receipts for

827
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,879
Speaker 1: every most of the things from his trip, and one

828
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: of the things that was in his bag was a

829
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 1: receipt for the rental car, which was signed for by

830
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 1: somebody else, a fellow Canadian who is never named, by

831
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 1: the way. So I can't I can't say, oh it

832
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 1: was this person, but it's completely possible that Blair and

833
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 1: this other person drove across the border. Blair and this

834
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 1: other person got on a plane together, landed in d

835
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 1: c and one and Blair rented the car and the

836
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 1: other person got in the car and they drove that

837
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 1: whole distance, at which point, as we talked about a

838
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: little bit earlier, unknown person gets out of the car

839
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 1: to go use the bathroom, has the car key with him,

840
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 1: Blair has, you know, let's say it's his own key,

841
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 1: trying to use and then completely flips out and this

842
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 1: whole thing goes sideways. Now, why what happens between Blair

843
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 1: and his now stranded traveling companion. I can't even fathom

844
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 1: a gas. Well, he must have been in that, that's

845
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 1: the thing. Though. He must have been in the bathroom

846
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: hell of a long time. Well, it wasn't eight hour drive,

847
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 1: I mean, not only not only what you have had

848
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,720
Speaker 1: to have been he or she had been the bathroom

849
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 1: for a long time. I also just have a hard

850
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 1: time with it because barring any kind of like psychotic

851
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: break or something else going on with Blair at the

852
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 1: exact same time, he would have said, oh, maybe my

853
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 1: friend has it right, Like, there's no reason for him

854
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 1: to have just ignored the fact that his totally amicable

855
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 1: traveling partner had the key. Or even even if they

856
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 1: were like, even if they had had this huge fight

857
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,839
Speaker 1: and the other person wandered off, he still probably would

858
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 1: have said, oh crap, I think the other person of

859
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 1: the key. He wouldn't have been like, I don't know,

860
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 1: I must have lost it first. This sign the signer

861
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 1: was Blair, just signed a different name. That's always possible.

862
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 1: The thing about it is if the friend was in

863
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 1: the bathroom and you know, I made the bathroom part

864
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 1: up completely, Yes, yeah, I'm totally I grabbed the bathroom

865
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 1: so that the attendant didn't see this person. Okay, the

866
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 1: friend could have been in the a bile or gone

867
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 1: across the street to the taco. But the friend would

868
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:06,840
Speaker 1: have come back. Here's the deal. Yes, he would have

869
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 1: come back. He would have found Blair and the car gone.

870
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 1: He would have asked the guy what happened to my

871
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 1: friend in our car, and that guy would have told

872
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 1: the police about it. He didn't do that unless they

873
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: had agreed the part ways at this place. Maybe the

874
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 1: friend was going to meet somebody there and then go

875
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 1: off on his own. I meansible, but I kind of

876
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 1: doubt it. I I don't. I don't think that's it. Yeah,

877
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 1: let's move to theory number three. Canadian drug dealers. They're

878
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 1: the scariest, by the way. In articles, again this is

879
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 1: again early reporting, you will see this line repeated over

880
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 1: and over, which is and I quote there was a

881
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 1: history of mental illness in his family, and Adams had

882
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 1: spent years battling alcohol and drug addictions. I can't find

883
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 1: the foundation of the statement. I just see it stated

884
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 1: over and over. So it may just be a copy

885
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 1: paste scenario that somebody tacked on by inferring something that

886
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 1: somebody else said. I don't know where it came from. Yeah,

887
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,399
Speaker 1: I don't know. I also want to make the point

888
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 1: that there was no drug and alcohol or drug or

889
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 1: alcohol found in his system when autopsy was done. He

890
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 1: cleaned a whizzle. Yeah, well, yeah, it doesn't mean he

891
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 1: didn't used to have a problem. He could have just

892
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: cleaned up his act. That's absolutely right. This is actually

893
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:30,720
Speaker 1: and this is a perfect guy for a drug curier.

894
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 1: You don't want a junkie, no, you want to you

895
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 1: want a guy who's clean as can be. And it's

896
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 1: entirely possible that Blair may have fallen in with the

897
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 1: wrong people. And let's just say again, let's just presume

898
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 1: that he was doing something. Let's presume that he was

899
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: a courier. I think we talked about that earlier when

900
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,280
Speaker 1: he was trying to cross the border. He's a courier,

901
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,880
Speaker 1: and he's working for some bad people, and then he

902
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 1: does something that makes them mad or thinks that they're

903
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: mad him and that they're gonna get him, and has

904
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:06,320
Speaker 1: to get out of town because everybody knows that snitches

905
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 1: get stitches. So he may have oh, oh, oh, I

906
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 1: gotta go, I gotta get out of here. They are

907
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 1: so gonna kill me. Yeah, I don't know. I agree

908
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: that a clean person is usually the ideal candidate for

909
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 1: drug slash money currying of any kind, but typically not

910
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:29,240
Speaker 1: somebody who's recovering. So if there was actually a history,

911
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 1: if he was an ex drug abuser. Usually you aren't like, hey,

912
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 1: I know you used to have this thing with drugs,

913
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 1: but you're totally clean now. But we're gonna give you

914
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:40,840
Speaker 1: a bunch of drugs and just usually that's not the plan,

915
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 1: not according to Hollywood. Well, okay, Hollywood, can you can

916
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 1: You're you're pointing where Hollywood can stick. Okay, But here's

917
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:51,840
Speaker 1: the deal about this, the snitching too. There's lots of

918
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 1: deals tonight. So he's he's a Surrey, right, So he's

919
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 1: he's snitching to the sury Pah. Let's say he gets

920
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 1: bust it. Yeah, so he's he's turned state's evidence, that's right.

921
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:06,439
Speaker 1: So so he's he's ratting out his friends to these guys.

922
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 1: He's agreed to become an informant for them. And so

923
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 1: if that's the case, and if you have Knoxville or

924
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 1: p D and or the Knox County Sheriff's calling you

925
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 1: up inquiring about this guy, aren't you isn't somebody going

926
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: to make note of the fact that he was an informant? Okay,

927
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 1: flip side on this, right, If he was an informant,

928
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 1: if they still have an active sting going on, right,

929
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 1: if it was a couple of people, and you don't

930
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 1: want to like freak them out by saying, yeah, there

931
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 1: was a c I in there, but he got killed,

932
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 1: because then they'll think, oh, they're like, there might be

933
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 1: more of the clean house. But here's the deal. It's

934
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 1: been twenty years. I agree, they had plenty of time

935
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 1: to wrap up that investigation and then then of murderers. Absolutely, yeah,

936
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 1: so okay, fine, So therefore he couldn't have been a rat.

937
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 1: But like you were saying with I mean, you call

938
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 1: this reporter who reported on it and she was like,

939
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 1: I don't come remember that case. It's possible it just

940
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 1: fell through the cracks. You know, at the time they said, listen,

941
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: we can't hold any information about this person. Okay, great,

942
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 1: and then you know that was that, and then that's

943
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 1: a possibility to just you know, somebody in the drug

944
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 1: department in our go department in Surrey was not that

945
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 1: wasn't their top priority of following up with the Knoxville

946
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 1: Sheriff's department. But here's there's there's a deal one why

947
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 1: I think it didn't fall through the cracks. So our

948
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 1: drug kingpin here, a Canadian drug kingpin. His name is

949
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 1: John Smith. He's got a file Blair is informing on him,

950
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 1: and so Blair turns up dead through a violent sort

951
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 1: of violent incident. So aren't you going to make a

952
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 1: note in his and John Smith's file that somebody who

953
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 1: was informing on him turned up dead through violent accident

954
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 1: or possible? But it's but it's so far away, that's

955
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:57,439
Speaker 1: that's is so far away now that you will see

956
00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 1: things that say that, well, it was some kind of work,

957
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 1: and they they faxed out his picture to all their yes,

958
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,839
Speaker 1: facted out his picture to all their gangs, and one

959
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 1: of the gangs spotted him and did him in and

960
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 1: take the money because it was it was proof of death,

961
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:18,319
Speaker 1: is what they needed to get paid. But like you

962
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:22,720
Speaker 1: would take the money though, you would, yeah, right, totally

963
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 1: would take the money. No, I don't think it's a

964
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 1: Canadian drug. I don't care how trailer park boys that is.

965
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 1: I just they're not. Okay, let's go on to our

966
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 1: our next international suspect, because we have another theory. Serious, Yes,

967
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 1: this is actually out there, which is it's the Germans.

968
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 1: If they were angry Germans otherwise known as sauer Krauts.

969
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 1: You will see information out there from the sources that

970
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 1: say that Blair had spent some time in Germany doing

971
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 1: construction work, anywhere from two months to a year, depending

972
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 1: on the source. Yeah I heard. I in one source,

973
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 1: I heard three months. Four Yeah, yeah, it's it's all

974
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:08,719
Speaker 1: over the map. And that he also left before the

975
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:14,799
Speaker 1: job was done for unknown reasons. And also there is

976
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 1: supposedly a woman involved, the German woman woman girl maybe yeah,

977
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 1: you hear, you hear it's a young woman. Blair at

978
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 1: this time. He was one when he died, so he

979
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 1: probably Let's let's presume that this is accurate, because I

980
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:37,399
Speaker 1: have some serious concerns with some of this. But let's

981
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 1: say that it's accurate. That means he would have been

982
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 1: at the most thirty at that time, so hard to

983
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:47,359
Speaker 1: say it says she was underage. And then from here

984
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 1: we get two theories. So this one, as we're going

985
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 1: to see a lot of these, breaks into two different directions.

986
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 1: The first direction is that Blair left Germany because her

987
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 1: parents were angry and he had to go yep, and

988
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:06,840
Speaker 1: they maybe she was pregnant, or maybe she was ill.

989
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:12,880
Speaker 1: They were high profile something like that, um or maybe

990
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 1: he they wanted him to pay up and he eventually did,

991
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 1: or he was willing to do it, and then he

992
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 1: realized that they were gonna betray him. Sounds like spy novel,

993
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 1: I know, uh, And so he decides to go on

994
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 1: the run, and then realizing that he's going to stiff him,

995
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:35,840
Speaker 1: these folks turn around and chase him down to collect

996
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:38,319
Speaker 1: their final payment, which is not in the form of

997
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 1: money or The other direction this goes is that Blair

998
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 1: decided he was going to go back to Germany to

999
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 1: meet this girl, which is why he bought the ticket

1000
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 1: to Germany. But then something happened from some relation that

1001
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 1: scared him off, and that's why he went on the run.

1002
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 1: The the only thing that really ties is the German

1003
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 1: currency and the ticket to Germany. Well that's how that's

1004
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 1: where this this seems to come from. I guess part

1005
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 1: of it also maybe is if he wasn't some kind

1006
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 1: of trouble and you know, he was moody and trying

1007
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:16,360
Speaker 1: to figure out what was going on, and his mom said, Blair,

1008
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 1: what's wrong and he he obviously isn't going to be like,

1009
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 1: I don't know, mom, I've knocked up a fifteen year

1010
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:26,319
Speaker 1: old in Germany. That's what's wrong, you know, right, It's

1011
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 1: possible But here's where my concern with this whole German

1012
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 1: angle comes from. Oh, I had lots of concerns. Oh

1013
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 1: there's there's a very simple concern, which is how they

1014
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 1: find him. No, No, not at all. It's the source.

1015
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:44,919
Speaker 1: The source of the German angle is what really makes

1016
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:48,800
Speaker 1: me question it. Because there's a web website called sitcoms

1017
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 1: Online dot com and it's a forum, and in that forum,

1018
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 1: there is a user who is only posted six times,

1019
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 1: and all of them were about Blair's case, and that

1020
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 1: user goes by the name of nerd Girl, and nerd

1021
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 1: Girl talks all about Blair and their relationship and the

1022
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 1: whole thing that when I read it, because I've read

1023
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 1: Oliver posts, they sound either like trolling or attention, you know,

1024
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:24,439
Speaker 1: garnering attention because I'm involved in this case. So nerd

1025
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:27,439
Speaker 1: Girl was claiming to be the young woman that nerd

1026
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 1: Girl was a friend slash previous girlfriend of Blair and

1027
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 1: gives all these details. This is everything that you ever

1028
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 1: cite it find anywhere else that talks about his interactions

1029
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 1: in Germany and this potential issue. They're all stem from

1030
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 1: this set of posts. And I found one other person

1031
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 1: who also had a one time post that seemed to

1032
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 1: reveal a bunch of information about the case in this

1033
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 1: same thread, was that post one time that was something, right,

1034
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:06,920
Speaker 1: I don't remember that particular person us or now that was,

1035
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 1: but that was the one who, if I recall right,

1036
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 1: revealed real quote unquote that he was bisexual, right, yes,

1037
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 1: and that yeah, yeah, yes, she claimed to be female

1038
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 1: to know him. And I think she posted at least

1039
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 1: twice and that's right if I remember, right, But you

1040
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 1: know it doesn't. And I think that that could all

1041
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 1: be just totally live. That's my problem. I'm not ripping

1042
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:34,040
Speaker 1: on forums, but I'm also saying that when the only

1043
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 1: source of information comes here, I can't give it a

1044
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 1: whole lot of credit. Yeah, so, but again I want

1045
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 1: to I want to leave that where it is, knowing that, yeah,

1046
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 1: and there was also just just for for fun. Speaking

1047
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 1: to the German angle, the amount of variation on that was.

1048
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 1: Somebody out there said that it's possible that this girl

1049
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 1: was from a Muslim family, and since there's a substantial

1050
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 1: um Must population in Germany back then there was now

1051
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 1: there's a really substantial Muslim population in Germany. But and

1052
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 1: so it could have been an honor killing but again

1053
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 1: this runs this, This runs a ground on the rocks

1054
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:14,919
Speaker 1: of Again, how the hell did they find him? Yeah,

1055
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:17,480
Speaker 1: how did they track him down? He did a really

1056
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 1: good He did exactly what you do when you're trying

1057
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 1: to shake a tail. He changed his plants constantly, and

1058
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 1: he wouldn't know where that made sense. So yeah, that's

1059
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:29,959
Speaker 1: that's where the whole thing runs a foul. Let's move

1060
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 1: to our next theory. Actually, this is the next one.

1061
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 1: Is the header for several theories, because again this is

1062
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 1: used dashes, not bullets. Let's see who you are, a

1063
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 1: heathen who doesn't know how to organize things obviously. Okay,

1064
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 1: our next theory is what's going on? It's that Blair

1065
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 1: was having some kind of mental break, some kind of

1066
00:59:57,000 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 1: socio effective disorder gets effective, is it schizer schitzo effective?

1067
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 1: I knew I was mispronouncing that, so that's why I

1068
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 1: double checked this time instead of just pretending I knew

1069
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 1: what the word was. I got us in trouble before.

1070
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 1: So it's possible that his behavior leading up to the

1071
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 1: time that he left town was showing when whatever he

1072
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:24,400
Speaker 1: was suffering from was building steam and getting worse and

1073
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 1: worse and worse and From there we can split into

1074
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:33,320
Speaker 1: several sub theories. The only actually, the only problem I

1075
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 1: have with this entire thing is that I don't I

1076
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 1: think typically if you're if you're a guy, and you're

1077
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:41,000
Speaker 1: gonna get schizophrenia, it comes on between like eighteen and

1078
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 1: twenty five years ago. It's later than that. No, that's typical.

1079
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 1: I looked it up. It's between eighteen and it can

1080
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:53,400
Speaker 1: it can set in later. So it is it's possible.

1081
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 1: It's not such a narrow band. Yeah, it's not not

1082
01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 1: as likely as I would say. I've never I've never

1083
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 1: actually heard of anybody you know, getting a thirty one.

1084
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 1: Usually if you make it passed about your home free.

1085
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 1: Just to add if the accusations that Blair was a

1086
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:14,120
Speaker 1: drug and alcohol abuser, there's a really strong causal connection.

1087
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 1: It's like not a proving connection, but a causal connection

1088
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:20,320
Speaker 1: between drug and alcohol abuse and gets so effective disorders.

1089
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 1: And we talked about this in the bam er one

1090
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 1: right that like one, you know, it exacerbates the problem

1091
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:29,480
Speaker 1: a little bit, but so that it's possible that maybe

1092
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:32,480
Speaker 1: Blair was a little bit exhibiting signs in his like

1093
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 1: you know, and then just was trying to self medicate

1094
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 1: with drugs and alcohol, not exacerbated the problem with a

1095
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:42,440
Speaker 1: little bit um and then when he took himself off

1096
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:45,400
Speaker 1: of those things, it really came in full force. I

1097
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:47,400
Speaker 1: don't know, that's I mean, again, I'm not a doctor,

1098
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:49,600
Speaker 1: so I don't know. But what I have read is

1099
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 1: what Joe has read, that it's the eighteen but that

1100
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 1: it's not unheard of for somebody to kind of be

1101
01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 1: self medicating. And then when you know, somebody says, hey,

1102
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 1: you're an alcoholic, you gotta go clean, and you say, okay,

1103
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 1: you go clean, and then all this other stuff things

1104
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:12,200
Speaker 1: that were being masked by the by the addiction. Yeah. Absolutely, Okay,

1105
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:15,200
Speaker 1: So we're gonna go into sub theory one, which is

1106
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:18,320
Speaker 1: Blair made the wrong person mad. Yeah, because you know,

1107
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:21,720
Speaker 1: people who have mental issues often uh say, and do

1108
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:25,520
Speaker 1: an inappropriate things or come across come across like that. Yeah. No,

1109
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:29,840
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's it's entirely possible. So I mean,

1110
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:31,880
Speaker 1: if you think about it, if he is in an

1111
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:35,680
Speaker 1: altered state and he leaves the place that he's familiar

1112
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 1: with and he's in this somebody's out to get me mindset,

1113
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 1: the farther he gets away from what he's familiar with.

1114
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 1: The deeper and deeper he's going to fall into this

1115
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:53,360
Speaker 1: story that he's created for himself. And that would that

1116
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 1: would explain why he was acting so irrational or so

1117
01:02:57,480 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 1: strange in the hotel and and and then leaving. But

1118
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:04,520
Speaker 1: he could have he could have gone to one of

1119
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:06,920
Speaker 1: the restaurants. He could have gone to a gas station.

1120
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 1: He could have gone to a store in the area.

1121
01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 1: He could have met the raunch trucker who didn't like

1122
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:15,520
Speaker 1: what he was saying. He could have met somebody at

1123
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:19,760
Speaker 1: McDonald's he or at Taco Bell, or he might have

1124
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:22,120
Speaker 1: met the guy who was just frustrated and tired after

1125
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 1: driving his fifty ft RV all day long. I mean,

1126
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:30,800
Speaker 1: it could be anybody who then gets upset by something

1127
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 1: he says or does an attacks. Because we've said this before,

1128
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:36,920
Speaker 1: the people who were both likely to be hurt victims

1129
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 1: are are victims of mental illness. They're the ones who

1130
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 1: were likely to be the violent or experienced the violence,

1131
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:50,280
Speaker 1: especially geo effective disorders. Yes, yeah, so he could have

1132
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:56,040
Speaker 1: done that. And so somebody could have cot poed at

1133
01:03:56,160 --> 01:04:00,560
Speaker 1: him and taken a couple of swings at him and

1134
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:07,000
Speaker 1: landed a lucky blow and then didn't know that they

1135
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:10,720
Speaker 1: had done it. And then Blair wanders off. He goes

1136
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:15,160
Speaker 1: to this hotel parking lot that's under construction. He's ill

1137
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:19,880
Speaker 1: now because his stomach has been ruptured. It's hurting, probably

1138
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 1: feeling a little lightheaded from all the blood loss too.

1139
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:25,560
Speaker 1: There's that he could have potentially could have had a

1140
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 1: very rapidly on setting fever of some kind. You know,

1141
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:31,480
Speaker 1: his his temperature could have elevated, he could have felt

1142
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:33,880
Speaker 1: like he was hot. He's in an altered state. Get

1143
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:38,320
Speaker 1: these clothes off. They're hot, which to me explains why

1144
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:42,800
Speaker 1: everything is inside out. A dude, and I'm lazy. I

1145
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:45,760
Speaker 1: dropped my pants and I start stepping on him and

1146
01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:48,240
Speaker 1: pulling my legs out, and that pulls. If I'm wearing

1147
01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:51,720
Speaker 1: thicker socks, that'll pull both my pant leg inside out

1148
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:55,320
Speaker 1: and start my sock going inside. Well. I mean, the

1149
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:57,880
Speaker 1: other things think about is like if he died, for

1150
01:04:58,040 --> 01:05:00,240
Speaker 1: his stomach was ruptured, so he would have had one

1151
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:03,600
Speaker 1: heck of a stomach ache, right, and like when my

1152
01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:07,160
Speaker 1: stomach rds, I don't my entire torso needs to have

1153
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:10,920
Speaker 1: Like I do not want anything no pressure. Why their

1154
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 1: hurts so bad, so like I would strip my pants

1155
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:17,480
Speaker 1: off too. I would just be like, these these hurt

1156
01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:20,080
Speaker 1: really bad, you know, especially if you are in an

1157
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:22,800
Speaker 1: altered mental state, which probably are because your body's experienced

1158
01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:25,960
Speaker 1: some pretty big trauma. It's it's a damn shame though,

1159
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:28,400
Speaker 1: that he didn't go get help, because where he was

1160
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:30,960
Speaker 1: at he was in he was at this hotel is

1161
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:33,480
Speaker 1: under construction, but it was right between two at the hotels. Well,

1162
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:37,240
Speaker 1: I almost wonder. I almost wonder if he thought he

1163
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:39,600
Speaker 1: was where he was supposed to be, or if or

1164
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 1: if he's still in his delusion he's hiding, or if

1165
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:46,800
Speaker 1: if perhaps he's lost so much blood that he can't

1166
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:48,760
Speaker 1: think straight. I don't know, but he was. He was

1167
01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:51,840
Speaker 1: actually he actually could have saved himself. I mean he

1168
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:54,200
Speaker 1: was just, like I said, really close to two hotels

1169
01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:57,400
Speaker 1: or even I mean he was a construction worker, right,

1170
01:05:57,480 --> 01:05:59,920
Speaker 1: so like maybe in his kind of like going to

1171
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:04,080
Speaker 1: and he was like, oh, I know like construction. Yeah

1172
01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 1: that's a place I recognize, I know people who are there.

1173
01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:11,520
Speaker 1: I'll go there. Yeah, that's a great point. That's a

1174
01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 1: familiar night. It's dark and like it's not great, but

1175
01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:18,560
Speaker 1: it's actually all that dark there because there was so

1176
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:21,040
Speaker 1: many things around there that the place would have been

1177
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:24,960
Speaker 1: fairly decently lit. But also you don't know what's going on.

1178
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:27,400
Speaker 1: I mean, people's brains do really weird things when they're

1179
01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:31,200
Speaker 1: they've experienced that trauma. So to that he wasn't shocked probably,

1180
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 1: I'm sure it wasn't shocked because of the blood loss. Yeah. Yeah,

1181
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:37,200
Speaker 1: although you know, it's interesting. You know he's he goes

1182
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 1: to the construction site. He's in construction. Did he actually

1183
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:43,040
Speaker 1: maybe know somebody that was working on that project was

1184
01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:45,520
Speaker 1: at the point of making his little stop off in Knoxville,

1185
01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:51,600
Speaker 1: you are reaching for the brother. Oh my gosh, stop that.

1186
01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:57,640
Speaker 1: Let's move on to sub section two of this theory,

1187
01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:02,800
Speaker 1: which infers that it was some kind of self inflicted wound.

1188
01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:06,680
Speaker 1: I don't know if you can punch yourself that. No,

1189
01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:10,040
Speaker 1: So the way that this goes is there's one of

1190
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:12,600
Speaker 1: in this one again the splinters. But there's two ways.

1191
01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:18,520
Speaker 1: Either he is blindly running and he runs into something

1192
01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:23,240
Speaker 1: let's just say there's you know, boards or something, and

1193
01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:26,320
Speaker 1: he hits himself in the gut. Or he climbs on

1194
01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:30,160
Speaker 1: something and falls off of it and falls down onto

1195
01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:33,360
Speaker 1: something that is sticking upright, and it hits him in

1196
01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:37,800
Speaker 1: the lower abdomen, below the ribs that would exude enough force.

1197
01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:41,040
Speaker 1: It also, to me, maybe would explain why people say

1198
01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:43,800
Speaker 1: it looks like defensive wounds, because if he fell, if

1199
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:46,800
Speaker 1: he was falling, he either he would try to stop

1200
01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:50,760
Speaker 1: himself or his hands would flail and hit the things

1201
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:55,480
Speaker 1: around him. Now, I don't think that that is what

1202
01:07:55,720 --> 01:08:00,160
Speaker 1: it is, but people say that it's possible that I'm

1203
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:03,240
Speaker 1: wearing in that construction area, he may have fallen down

1204
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:06,400
Speaker 1: on something or run into something. Wouldn't have to fall

1205
01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:09,440
Speaker 1: that far either, really, not really, He got take out

1206
01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:12,640
Speaker 1: and was choking and was trying to self Heimli, that's

1207
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:14,520
Speaker 1: a good one. I like that one. That actually is

1208
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:19,720
Speaker 1: a good one. Yeah, and missed that is reported to

1209
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:21,880
Speaker 1: be found. Oh, but he could have wandered away from

1210
01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:24,720
Speaker 1: wherever he was eating at well after right, he like

1211
01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:28,599
Speaker 1: tried to self Timelick stopped choking obviously, you know, coughed

1212
01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:30,679
Speaker 1: up the little bit, was like, no, I don't feel good,

1213
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:33,240
Speaker 1: all right, better try to walk back to my hotel.

1214
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:36,040
Speaker 1: Confused about what hotel, because there's a jillion of them

1215
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:38,439
Speaker 1: there and he obviously wasn't paying that much at tension.

1216
01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:42,599
Speaker 1: That's entirely possible, because that would be a thing. I mean,

1217
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:44,559
Speaker 1: it would be pretty easy to if you were really

1218
01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:48,960
Speaker 1: really fall yeah accidentally, I don't know how easy it

1219
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:52,120
Speaker 1: would be, but just as easy as it is to

1220
01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 1: self inflict that wound, like at all. Right, Yeah, Now,

1221
01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:57,679
Speaker 1: if you really really wanted to self inflict the wound,

1222
01:08:57,720 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 1: you could actually probably do it if you found self

1223
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:02,040
Speaker 1: and that that's sticking out of the wall and you're

1224
01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 1: run into it with great force. Just you can't punch

1225
01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:06,560
Speaker 1: yourself in the gut that no, No, you'd have to

1226
01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:12,840
Speaker 1: run into something entirely. Yeah. The third sub theory in

1227
01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:16,240
Speaker 1: this group is that Blair was hit by a car.

1228
01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:19,280
Speaker 1: I don't put any stock in this because if he

1229
01:09:19,360 --> 01:09:23,080
Speaker 1: was hit by a car, I would expect more physical

1230
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:27,080
Speaker 1: damage to his body, like broken bones, kind of damage

1231
01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:31,400
Speaker 1: that hard. Yes, although you know, you never know, because

1232
01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:36,040
Speaker 1: that's a that's a one in a million hits. It's

1233
01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:38,439
Speaker 1: not not that it's not possible, but it's unlikely. And

1234
01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:42,439
Speaker 1: don't tell where he was staying. The Fairfield end was

1235
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:45,080
Speaker 1: on the opposite side of I forty from where his

1236
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:47,560
Speaker 1: body was found, and he might have been crossing the

1237
01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:51,200
Speaker 1: freeway at night because I actually were a couple of

1238
01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 1: restaurants on the other side of it. Maybe he's haading

1239
01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:55,559
Speaker 1: to get some food, he's crossing the freeway, gets hit

1240
01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:59,800
Speaker 1: by a car. Yeah, that's true, he would be but

1241
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:03,880
Speaker 1: he's crossing back over and he gets hit by the car.

1242
01:10:04,040 --> 01:10:07,880
Speaker 1: If he's hit by a vehicle that's on a freeway

1243
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:15,240
Speaker 1: doing sixty plus miles and again, so much more physical

1244
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:21,559
Speaker 1: damage should have been done to his body. It would yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah.

1245
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:23,800
Speaker 1: So again I I don't. I don't put a whole

1246
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:26,280
Speaker 1: lot of stock in that. That's well yeah, and there's

1247
01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:27,960
Speaker 1: there's the other thing too, is it would have done

1248
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:30,639
Speaker 1: other damage like so example that it hits him, doesn't

1249
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:32,479
Speaker 1: break any ribs or anything like that, but it's gonna

1250
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:34,840
Speaker 1: knock him over and he's gonna he's gonna he's got

1251
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:36,760
Speaker 1: contusions on the back of his head. He would be

1252
01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:41,439
Speaker 1: covered in scrapes and bruce. So I'm not I'm not moving.

1253
01:10:41,439 --> 01:10:44,240
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that one's a viable one, which takes

1254
01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:47,240
Speaker 1: us to our last one that you will see put

1255
01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:51,720
Speaker 1: out there, which is and there's no supporting evidence for this,

1256
01:10:52,479 --> 01:10:57,639
Speaker 1: but the area that he was at Strawberry Parkway Pike,

1257
01:10:58,280 --> 01:11:05,760
Speaker 1: Strawberry Planes. Thanks you. Yeah, it's complicated. It was not

1258
01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:10,240
Speaker 1: exactly the nicest place to be in the mid nineties,

1259
01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:12,519
Speaker 1: and the cops have talked about the fact that it's

1260
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:15,240
Speaker 1: kind of a truck stop and prostitutes were known to

1261
01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:20,439
Speaker 1: be there, and it's believe that possibly Blair decided to

1262
01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:23,400
Speaker 1: I don't care, I'm just heading you off. This is

1263
01:11:23,439 --> 01:11:25,840
Speaker 1: a dumb theory because there's money all over him. Are

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Speaker 1: you kidding me? Even if he did get a prostitute

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Speaker 1: and either she tried to rob him, or he did

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Speaker 1: something that freaked her out and she attacked him, or

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Speaker 1: her pimp attacked him, they would not literally leave money

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Speaker 1: on the table that does. So that's yeah, the whole,

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Speaker 1: the whole prostitute angle is out there. But I don't

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Speaker 1: think that that that's at all applause, that's not that's

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Speaker 1: actually the end of all of our theories. I personally,

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Speaker 1: I lean more towards the fact that he was probably

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Speaker 1: in some kind of altered state and probably got hit

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Speaker 1: by the wrong person physically, you know, had a physical alteration,

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Speaker 1: not hit by a car. That's that's the one that

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Speaker 1: what did I say alteration well, it was an alteration

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Speaker 1: of the stomach. That's true technically, Yeah, yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: that's entirely conceivable that you know, some a guy or

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Speaker 1: a couple of guys, you know, because if he truly

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Speaker 1: was sets aphrenic, and I don't know that he really was,

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Speaker 1: I'm just calling it an altered state because I don't

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01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:35,960
Speaker 1: know why I can't even get some kind of mood disorder. Yes, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I can see him. What you know, I see those

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01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:40,640
Speaker 1: guys walking down the street angrily, angrily talking to themselves,

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Speaker 1: you know, and I can see somebody like hearing that

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Speaker 1: and taking offense thinking is directed at them. I mean

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Speaker 1: maybe I don't know or you know, you, I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's I've seen this, the same thing you see walking

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Speaker 1: down the street and someone comes into their field of

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Speaker 1: vision and it's a completely different person to them, and

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Speaker 1: they are having a completely different experience and in somebody's face,

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Speaker 1: and that person is like, WHOA, get away from me,

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Speaker 1: you're freaking me out. You're in my bubble. And it

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Speaker 1: usually involves some yelling and some shoving. So that's why,

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Speaker 1: that's why I'm inclined to believe that that maybe what happened. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know how I feel about it. I think

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01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:20,639
Speaker 1: probably the Nazis that was a theory, right, the Nazis

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01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:25,200
Speaker 1: never actually were aliens? Was that a theory? They were,

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Speaker 1: but they got caught in the third revision of the

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Speaker 1: script the night. Yeah, I don't know where I stand.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I can't go to my two tropes I said,

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Speaker 1: I'm done. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. I'm

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01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:39,600
Speaker 1: inclined to think that it was some about half and

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Speaker 1: half I'm going to go six sixty that it was

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01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:45,800
Speaker 1: some sort of an accident, and forty that it was

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Speaker 1: a fight a fight. I just don't think. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: don't really. The assassination thing does seem really crazy. But

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Speaker 1: also I don't have a good explanation as to why

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Speaker 1: he couldn't find his car keys. That's the big outlier

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Speaker 1: for me. Well, again, I kind of like my theory

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01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:04,040
Speaker 1: is that he was pretending to not be able to

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Speaker 1: find his car keys so that he could have a toad.

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Speaker 1: And that makes no sense, Joe, because my person you

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01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:13,120
Speaker 1: was following him would have had to have been close

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Speaker 1: enough for him to realize that they were there. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I guess I pull that room. Unless you thought you

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Speaker 1: thought you were being followed and you weren't, And if

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Speaker 1: it was totally in his mind, he thinks he's being followed,

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Speaker 1: he thinks he's shaking them. But he doesn't want to

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Speaker 1: leave the car out or it could be found and spotted,

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Speaker 1: you know, by somebody. So while he's overnight in a hotel,

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Speaker 1: he wants a car to be locked up somewhere behind

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Speaker 1: closed doors. And it was found at a shop. It

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01:14:36,479 --> 01:14:39,360
Speaker 1: was found at a mechanic spot. It doesn't mean it

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Speaker 1: was actually locked up in the shop. That it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: It's it's not at a hotel and as far away

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Speaker 1: and as far away from him. So yeah, and so

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Speaker 1: that it could have been part of the whole paranoia thing.

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01:14:49,560 --> 01:14:51,920
Speaker 1: It's expense, it's an expensive way to deal with that.

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Speaker 1: But he obviously didn't care. Apparently not the money was

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01:14:55,160 --> 01:14:58,519
Speaker 1: he was spending money. He didn't, He didn't really care. Well,

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Speaker 1: if you have thoughts on this particular case, you are

1333
01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 1: more than welcome to share those with us. You can

1334
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01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:11,840
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Speaker 1: all goes through the email, we'll have the links for

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Speaker 1: some of the research on this story. Uh, and you

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01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:24,040
Speaker 1: can listen to the episodes. All the episodes are on

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Speaker 1: the website. The website is Thinking Sideways podcast dot com. Uh.

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Speaker 1: there's other places that we should probably tell people that

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Speaker 1: of at this point, so you can you can get

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Speaker 1: us on any of those. We are on social media,

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Speaker 1: on that. It is a lot of fun. And we

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Speaker 1: also have a subreddit, which I have no idea how

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Speaker 1: to find, but evidently go to reddit and google it.

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Speaker 1: I've never been more embarrassed. That wasn't totally on purpose.

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Speaker 1: I swear all right, Well, I believe that is all

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Speaker 1: of the information that we need to share when you

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Speaker 1: find folks. So we're going to get out of here

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Speaker 1: and we will talk to you again next week. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: with another grooving mystery. Bye guys.