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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you should know from house stuff Works

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Speaker 1: dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark.

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Speaker 1: There's Charles W. Tuck Bride getting his demons out. Man.

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Speaker 1: How about this music? Yeah, this is the thanks to

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Speaker 1: our guest producer, Noel. Yeah, who is Jerry's actually producing,

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Speaker 1: but he's got the musical touch. He's if you want to,

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Speaker 1: he's our dub producer. Yeah, if you want to reggae.

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Speaker 1: If I your podcast, Noel is the man. Yes, the

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Speaker 1: big thanks to Noel. Yeah, and great idea by you.

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Speaker 1: I and I Yeah, and I love that. How you doing, man,

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Speaker 1: I'm great. You've got some good feelings going on. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean we've covered grow houses and um, we had

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Speaker 1: a medical marijuana right. I don't think so, no, no,

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Speaker 1: because a lot of it didn't seem familiar when I

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Speaker 1: was looking into it in this article. So we've definitely

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Speaker 1: done grow houses, which is kind of backwards. Yeah, well

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Speaker 1: not really. You gotta grow up, that's the first true.

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Speaker 1: So chuck, here we are. We're talking about pot, and

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Speaker 1: as is our thing, we're gonna talk about pot in

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Speaker 1: a very like above the boards mature way. Are we?

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Speaker 1: I think we can we've talked about some other stuff

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Speaker 1: before poop. We've talked about poop plenty of times. Yeah, well, booze.

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Speaker 1: Every time we cover drugs, we like to cover the

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Speaker 1: scientific aspects to social ramifications, how it's impacted culture. Why

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Speaker 1: would this one be any different? Well, and this is

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Speaker 1: probably the biggest, you know, it's the most ubiquitous. I

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Speaker 1: would say, yeah, you know, yeah, maybe the gateway to

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Speaker 1: all the other episode. It's very funny. So uh, I

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Speaker 1: guess if you we should start at the beginning. How

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Speaker 1: about that? Okay, let's talk about pot and its history.

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Speaker 1: It's very long, long, long history, UM. And actually for

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Speaker 1: most of that history it has been widely beloved and appreciated.

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Speaker 1: The apparently pot has been cultivated or marijuana. We're going

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Speaker 1: to use all that, um and interchangeably weed pot marijuana,

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Speaker 1: but cannabis. That's probably where it will stop. Like if

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Speaker 1: either one of us says ganja or sticky it, we

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Speaker 1: should just shut it down it right? Then? All right,

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Speaker 1: all right, we'll do the Hey take that back. One

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Speaker 1: of us will say that. Okay, uh yeah, But like

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Speaker 1: you said, I mean, this is gonna be an overview

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Speaker 1: because we could do honestly for shows on the history

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Speaker 1: of pot. There's quite a rabbit hole we could go

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Speaker 1: down here. We got to avoid it, but we're just

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Speaker 1: we'll give you a historical overview about that. So um,

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Speaker 1: like I said, pot has been cultivated for years, and

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Speaker 1: like I also said that it's mostly been appreciated most

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Speaker 1: of that time for two reasons. One, it is um

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Speaker 1: in industrial or it was, until the rise of the synthetics,

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Speaker 1: a major industrial fiber hemp. And then secondly it was

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Speaker 1: a um or it still is a medicinal herb that

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Speaker 1: kind of spills over into recreational use as well. So

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Speaker 1: in the twenty century in China, uh, it looks like

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Speaker 1: it was probably used medicinally and not recreationally. But they're

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Speaker 1: definitely records written records of the cultivation of cannabis. Well. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: a guy named shen Nung, who was an emperor but

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Speaker 1: was also China's first physician, wrote about how ma that's

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Speaker 1: what they called pot back then in China was good

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Speaker 1: for the yin and the yang, both of them, right,

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Speaker 1: which is actually is we'll see, um, that's a pretty

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Speaker 1: astute observation early on, because what he's talking about is

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Speaker 1: balance or homeostasis, which part definitely affects. Yeah, they have

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Speaker 1: found a mummy, a three thousand year old Egyptian mummy,

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Speaker 1: and looked into this and it it contained quite a

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Speaker 1: few drugs, but it definitely contained th HC. So the

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Speaker 1: Egyptians were getting down. Yeah, maybe medicine, who knows. In

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Speaker 1: a thousand and one Arabian Nights, it makes an appearance

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Speaker 1: called Bang Sad Bad apparently loves this stuff. But supposedly

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Speaker 1: his was hatch mixed with opium, which is way more

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Speaker 1: hardcore than what we're talking about. Uh yeah, yeah, probably so. Um,

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Speaker 1: they think it originated perhaps in India and um north

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Speaker 1: of the Himalayas is their best guess. Yeah, they really

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Speaker 1: have no idea. And actually there's like a lot of

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Speaker 1: debate still over whether there's more than one in um

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Speaker 1: type of plant. What do you mean, So there's Cannabis indica,

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Speaker 1: Cannabis sativa. Yeah, they're different. There's another one called Cannabis

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Speaker 1: ut ruder alice um, and there's there's an ongoing debate

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Speaker 1: we may as well get into that a little bit. Um.

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Speaker 1: The Indica is uh the planet itself is shorter and

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Speaker 1: Sativa is taller. It can get really tall like um

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Speaker 1: would imagine the helicopters can see him a lot more easily. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And the Indica is known for more of a a

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Speaker 1: the sativa is more known for more energetic and cerebral

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Speaker 1: and creative, more of a brain high. Right. And then conversely,

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Speaker 1: one can make you more paranoid, one can make you

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Speaker 1: more druy. Uh yeah. And typically these days, um, if

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Speaker 1: some sort of a U hybrid strain. Good point. And

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Speaker 1: actually some of the strains, those hybrid strains are have

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Speaker 1: some of the best names like green crack. It's a

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Speaker 1: pretty good name. A K forty seven, white widow. White

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Speaker 1: Widow is actually uh pure strain, isn't it of Indica?

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Speaker 1: The pot names are they're pretty funny. They've definitely gotten

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Speaker 1: very Yeah. Um, so should we talk about should we

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Speaker 1: talk a little bit about um its history in this country,

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Speaker 1: it's how it was used. It was generally like appreciated, used, medicinally, used, recreationally,

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Speaker 1: not vilified. It wasn't until it hit North America that

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Speaker 1: it really started to become vilified. Yeah. Well it had

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Speaker 1: a couple of hundred years. Um it was hemp was

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Speaker 1: And it was in the six nineteen Virginia Assembly Assembly

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Speaker 1: and the Greeks actually grew marijuana, but they didn't smoke it.

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Speaker 1: They just used it for its fibers. And it almost

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Speaker 1: you teaching me? Well, movies like Reefer Madness definitely didn't help.

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Speaker 1: In nine six, the famous propaganda movie from French director

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Speaker 1: then a ninety seven um, a year after we for Madness,

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Speaker 1: a friend named farmer Ted who has the very strange

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00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:21,200
Speaker 1: um characteristic of having entirely translucent skin. He's kind of

423
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 1: like the Invisible Man or something like that. Yeah, and

424
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 1: what better person than to follow the trail of th

425
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 1: HC in the human body then you can actually see yeah,

426
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 1: because the rest of his organs or anything aren't translucent.

427
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 1: It's just a skin. Yeah, and uh, thank you for

428
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 1: coming in, Ted. Um. So, Ted is going to smoke

429
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:42,160
Speaker 1: a joint a marijuana cigarette. Yes, and uh, he's going

430
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 1: to smoke what is a typical marijuana cigarette, approximately five

431
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 1: milligrams of marijuana, which translates to roughly, um, I don't know,

432
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:59,119
Speaker 1: maybe ten milligrams of th HC. So he's going to

433
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,719
Speaker 1: take a lighter and take it to the end of

434
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 1: this joint. I'm making air quotes here because it's it's vernacular.

435
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 1: Uh and uh. The th HC is going to be

436
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,200
Speaker 1: burned and carried into his lungs, so farmer Ted is

437
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,639
Speaker 1: kind of high already. Um. The the th HC in

438
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 1: the smoke is carried to the aviola in the lungs,

439
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 1: and the aviola is where gas exchange occurs. It's where

440
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,400
Speaker 1: your oxygen, you priv blood comes to get a refill

441
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:28,199
Speaker 1: of oxygen to be replenished. And since there's THHC smoke

442
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 1: present in that oxygen in the lungs, the TCC is

443
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,120
Speaker 1: gonna hit your ride into the bloodstream and travel through

444
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 1: the body. So it just takes seconds. Yeah. One of

445
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,360
Speaker 1: the places it's going to go is the brain. Uh.

446
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 1: And when it hits the brain, it starts doing some

447
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 1: pretty funky stuff. That's right. We could ask farmer Ted

448
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 1: how he's feeling right now, and he'll probably say, yeah,

449
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 1: he can't talk. He might say that my eyes are

450
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,640
Speaker 1: dilating and the colors are a lot more vivid. Yeah, Um,

451
00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 1: I'll be hungry soon. I'll be hungry soon. My other

452
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 1: senses are enhanced as well, but hold on, I'm starting

453
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,239
Speaker 1: to feel a paranoid. Yes, let's let's get into this.

454
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 1: Let's let's get into how pot affects the brain, because

455
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:15,880
Speaker 1: it is pretty gosh dar and interesting if you ask me. Yeah,

456
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 1: and and this is how it the physiological effects Um,

457
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 1: the end user might have different reactions depending. It didn't

458
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,640
Speaker 1: make everyone paranoid necessarily, No, And I really looked into

459
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 1: it hard to find out why some people are paranoid

460
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 1: and some people don't. Part of it is it? Well,

461
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 1: there's two things. One and I didn't find anything definitive,

462
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 1: which I'm I'm sad about. But one the two things

463
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,640
Speaker 1: that came up with it's one, it depends on the pot. Sure,

464
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:45,120
Speaker 1: if there is a difference between indica and sativa, the

465
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 1: prevailing wisdom is that if you smoke indicate you're going

466
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 1: to be less likely to be paranoid. Okay. Uh. The

467
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 1: other reason is it would depend probably on the existing

468
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: brain chemistry of the user. My brain chemistry is not

469
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 1: the same as yours, um, and neither one of ours

470
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,640
Speaker 1: are just the same as Jerry. So of course when

471
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,120
Speaker 1: we introduce the psychoactive chemical into that chemistry, it's going

472
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: to affect it differently. So that's what I came up with. Basically,

473
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 1: I wonder if one of the reasons indica is less

474
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,120
Speaker 1: likely is because that's the couch bound one, and you're

475
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 1: less likely to be a paranoid sitting on your couch

476
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: rather than the more active one like smoking and going

477
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 1: to the Renaissance festival where you'd be freaked out stone sober,

478
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 1: where you'd meet John Strickland and he would mess with

479
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 1: you if you found out your stone anyway, I'm curious. Um, Yeah,

480
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: it makes sense. Yeah. I've also found there's recent research

481
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 1: UM that shows the the cannabin als there's a precursor

482
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 1: um chemical to them that's called cannaba dialic acid CBD,

483
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 1: and cbd UM has been found that to actually counteract

484
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 1: the schizoid effects of pot, like the stuff that makes

485
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 1: you paranoid, that symptom if you get if you smoke

486
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 1: pot that has a higher CBD to th HC ratio.

487
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 1: Maybe it's even or something like that. Uh, the CBD

488
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 1: is going to cut down on the schizophrenic symptoms while

489
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 1: leaving like the rest of the stuff intact interesting and

490
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 1: that weird. So I wonder if if indica, just by

491
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: nature has a higher CBD content. Yeah maybe, so, yeah,

492
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 1: there are people that know this. Okay, So back in

493
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: the sixties, there was a researcher his name escapes me,

494
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 1: who started looking into what the heck made POT make

495
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: you loco? Right, and he found th HC. So TC

496
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 1: was isolated in the sixties, and from that they reverse engineered,

497
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 1: um how th HC affected the brain and effectively discovered

498
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 1: an entire system that we didn't know existed thanks to

499
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 1: POT research. It's called the endocannabinoid system, and it's a

500
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 1: very ancient system that's found in everything from C squirts

501
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 1: to every VERTI braid on the planet s C squirts,

502
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 1: very primitive animals all the way up to us. Well

503
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 1: I know that, Uh, I didn't quite get the indocannabinoid parts,

504
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: so take it away, okay, So I know it works backwards. Yes,

505
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 1: that's a very important point. So you know, when like um,

506
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 1: when we do anything from our brain says grab coffee

507
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 1: mug right to um to us thinking about how we're

508
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 1: feeling at any given point, all of that is based

509
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 1: on the transmission among neurons. Right, Yeah, we've covered that

510
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 1: a lot. The neurotransmitters kind of cover that gap. Between

511
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 1: the neurons and deliver the message. And then depending on

512
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 1: where the neuroprint transmitter is and what chemical has come across,

513
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 1: then different things happen. Right. Well, the endocannabinoid system is

514
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: this kind of dimmer switch, uh, that is around all

515
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 1: neurons that works backward to kind of say, whoa, whoa,

516
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: let's not pump those neurochemicals out as frequently or in

517
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 1: as much abundance. And the whole point of the endocannabinoid

518
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 1: system is to maintain homeostasis or good for your good

519
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 1: for your yangs. Right, and that weird, Okay, So when

520
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: you smoke pot, your endocannabinoid system, which has receptors all

521
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 1: throughout the body. There's CB two receptors which are mainly

522
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: associated with your immune system, and then CB one receptors

523
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: are throughout the brain. And when you smoke pot, the cannabinoids,

524
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: the phytocannabinoids which is th HC in this case, go

525
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 1: into these reasons of your brain and stick to your brain,

526
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 1: to your endocannabinoid receptors. Yeah, they basically just kind of

527
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 1: hijacked the system. So these the systems that the endocannabinoid

528
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: receptors are meant to regulate are no longer being regulated

529
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: by our bodies endocannabinoids. They're being hijacked by th HC,

530
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: which is not subject to our body's whims and and

531
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 1: all that. We just basically have to ride that snake

532
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: out until it's over. So you end up with all

533
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: these different weirdo symptoms that you normally wouldn't have, which

534
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 1: is basically the result of your endocannabinoid system going hey

535
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 1: wired because it's been hijacked by th HC. Right, so

536
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 1: like your hippocampus, Yes, we've talked about that. That's good

537
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 1: for learning, Yeah, it is. And when the endocannabinoid receptors

538
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: are full of th HC, uh, you're not learning or

539
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 1: making memories as well as normal. We're talking short term memory.

540
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 1: It definitely impairs that. And um, that's why if you've

541
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 1: ever hung out with a bunch of pot heads, you'll

542
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 1: hear the phrase what were we just talking about? A lot?

543
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 1: Because it's gonna affect the hippocampus in that way you're

544
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 1: not forming memories. It's also gonna affect your coordination, which

545
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: is the cerebellum, so you may be a little clumsier.

546
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 1: And then you have the basil ganglia and that directs

547
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: your unconscious muscle movements. Yeah. Uh, so the reason farmer

548
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 1: Ted is paranoid. He doesn't like that plant looking at

549
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 1: him the way it is, right. Uh, he's paranoid because

550
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 1: his bazom medial um amygdala has been affected. It's endocannabinoid

551
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: receptors have been hijacked by th HC, and it's this

552
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 1: region of the brain where we learn to fear dangerous situations.

553
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: Farmer Ted is learning to fear things he normally wouldn't

554
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 1: fear because the endocannabinoids that the body normally makes they're

555
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 1: not um operating the way that they're supposed to be.

556
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 1: So he's now afraid of that plant. Now. Isn't that

557
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 1: this aren't the endocannabinoids the same system that they have

558
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: finally been pointed the munchies activates the munchies. Yeah, and

559
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 1: your hypothalamus um you're grilling production, Remember grilling, It's that

560
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 1: chemical that makes you feel hungry, so you go eat.

561
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: You're grilling production and absorption, uh is mediated by endocannabinoids

562
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: and the hypothalamus, which gets hijacked by THHC, which suddenly

563
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 1: all food looks irresistible. Yeah, and which is why it

564
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: is prescribed for people going through chemotherapy and of things

565
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 1: because they lose their appetite and lose a lot of weight.

566
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 1: And uh, aside from helping the stem nausea, it also

567
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 1: will stimulate the appetite. So that's the endocannabinoid system and

568
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: that is how pot affects it. I feel like that. Yeah,

569
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 1: we left out the biggest part. It also causes a

570
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: release of dopamine, which is what makes you feel. Any

571
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 1: euphoric feeling comes from that release of dopamine. But it's

572
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 1: also possible that any paranoia or those schitzoid symptoms that

573
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 1: come along with it are from too much dopamine. Right,

574
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: So that too high a release of dopamine can lead

575
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 1: to feelings of paranoia and anxiety. Yeah, and these feelings. Um,

576
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 1: the effect of th HC period is gonna last a

577
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: couple of hours, depending on obviously how good the pot

578
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: is and how much you smoked. Um, but the chemicals

579
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:51,879
Speaker 1: are going to be in your body a lot longer

580
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 1: than that, with the terminal half life of twenty hours

581
00:34:55,480 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: to ten days after you've smoked it. So um, if

582
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: you get you know, if you're one of the how

583
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 1: many percentage of companies drug test fifty seven, yeah, fifty something,

584
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: fifty three maybe, yeah, depending on your weight and how

585
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:13,760
Speaker 1: much you smoked and how long you smoked. Right, Uh,

586
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: you're gonna either pass that drug test here or not.

587
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: It can stain your body for you know, weeks though. Yeah,

588
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 1: it's yeah, and there's no way to tell because it

589
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 1: depends on you your metabolism and the pot potency of

590
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 1: the pot too. Um. But yeah, your body breaks it

591
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: down into five metabolites and they test for all five

592
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 1: to just using a basic immuno essay where they introduce

593
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,720
Speaker 1: an antibody to your urine and it reacts or doesn't

594
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 1: react and turns it a pretty color, a pretty bad color. Right, chuck,

595
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,399
Speaker 1: We got a little more on the body. Okay, Well

596
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: we'll get to it after this break. How about that?

597
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 1: It sounds good? Okay, form it said? Um, stand back up,

598
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 1: let's abuse you some more. Although it seems like he's

599
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: enjoying it, he's a little he's a little cooler now.

600
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: He was petting that plant, I mean, and I think

601
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: so if you can see his liver right here right there. Um,

602
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 1: so farmer tend is gonna eat some pot this time.

603
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 1: So what's gonna happen. He's ingested pot orally one way

604
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,320
Speaker 1: or another, whether cooked in a brownie or just eating

605
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: the pot, and the body is going to take this

606
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: and break it down, metabolize it and send it to

607
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 1: the liver. And when this happens, it's going to the

608
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 1: THHC is going to hit the bloodstream in this stomach anyway,

609
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 1: so he's gonna get some sort of buzz or whatever.

610
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 1: But in the liver he's going to metabolize it into

611
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 1: another psychoactive chemical that isn't really present when you smoke it,

612
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 1: so it doesn't it's the effects aren't quite as pronounced,

613
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: but they last longer. And there's an additional weirdo thing

614
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,280
Speaker 1: to it. Well it's gonna take longer, but last longer,

615
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: and um, the effects of it exactly. Yeah, but there's

616
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: also the extra psycho active chemical it's produced in the

617
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 1: liver that's not really produced when you smoke it. Yeah,

618
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: and that weird. It is weird, and it's also the

619
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: reason why um, new young travelers to Amsterdam, you know,

620
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 1: I want to try their first pot brownie. They don't

621
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,879
Speaker 1: think it's working, then they try another one. And this

622
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: is the ones you see like sitting alongside the canal

623
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 1: like rocking themselves. Yes, because it takes a little while.

624
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: It does when you when you ingested via smoke, it's

625
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:31,839
Speaker 1: almost instantaneous. When you ingest it by eating it, it's

626
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: going to take a lot longer, that's right. So, UM,

627
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 1: I guess we should talk a little bit about whether

628
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: or not it's addictive, because that's another raging debate for

629
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,479
Speaker 1: years and years. How addictive is pot? Uh? There are

630
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 1: all kinds of studies that contradict one another, and um,

631
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 1: I think it's one of these things that probably comes

632
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: down to the person somewhat if you have that addictive personality.

633
00:37:56,440 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 1: But they do see effects of pot cessation your ability anxiety, depression,

634
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: maybe sleeplessness and insomnia, restlessness, and that's if you quit

635
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: the pot after having been a user. And it's you know,

636
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 1: psychologically addictive. Like any drug, you're gonna crave it if

637
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 1: you want it. Sure apparently, um it can have an

638
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,359
Speaker 1: impact on your levels of anxiety, like you might not

639
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,840
Speaker 1: feel anxious when your stone, but you could feel anxious

640
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,240
Speaker 1: when you're not stoned, so you get stone more often,

641
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 1: which while not necessarily a classic addiction because the addiction

642
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 1: model follows the strictly the limbic system, and I think

643
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 1: activates it somewhat, but it's not really acting specifically on

644
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: that is acting more on the endocannabinoid system, right, So

645
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 1: indirectly it might be hitting the limbic system, but it's

646
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: not following that classic addiction route. But at the very least,

647
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,359
Speaker 1: that's habitual. If you need to smoke something to get

648
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,839
Speaker 1: back to normal, that's a habit and a bad one

649
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 1: because you have a crutch there. Yeah, unless you're Willie

650
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 1: Nelson and then you're just like, what's the problem, You

651
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 1: just keep smoking it? Um really know that? What are

652
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 1: some Uh well, I guess we can talk about some

653
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 1: of the medicinal uses. Um. We did talk about cancer

654
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:18,919
Speaker 1: and AIDS patients to stimulate appetite. Um. The old glaucoma

655
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: card is a big one to play. Yeah, if you're

656
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,280
Speaker 1: applying for your medical marijuana card, it relieves ie pressure.

657
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 1: I couldn't find how it does that, Yeah, but it's

658
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 1: been that's one of the earliest uses of Hell. You

659
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 1: remember remember when all this first started to hit California

660
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 1: past uh um legal medicinal marijuana. It was almost all

661
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: glaucoma at the time, in which it seemed like everybody

662
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 1: was like, you are so facant glaucoma, you need pop

663
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,399
Speaker 1: or glaucoma. And then it just became more and more

664
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 1: established as fact became associated with helping more and more maladies.

665
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:55,800
Speaker 1: And of course if you go to get your card,

666
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 1: then you go to the dispensary. They have a long

667
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 1: list of things that it can help, right, basically, anything

668
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: you can think of they will they will put on

669
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: their list. As long as you have a prescription card.

670
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 1: I think they're cool with that. Well, no, that's to

671
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 1: get the card like the you know the yeah that's

672
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 1: a new doctor where stocks. Yeah, you can probably get

673
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 1: a medicinal marijuana card from him, but don't see him

674
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 1: for anything else. Um, it can help with epileptic seizures.

675
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 1: In fact, here in Georgia that's been on the table

676
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 1: due to a famous story of a boy here in

677
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 1: Georgia who whose seizures were like massively cut down by

678
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 1: taking a marijuana oil which has no THHC like the

679
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 1: kids not getting high. Basically it doesn't have psychoactive properties.

680
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 1: And Georgia is, believe it or not, trying to speed

681
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: through I know it didn't go through initially a few

682
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 1: weeks ago, just because I think they didn't have time

683
00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: to get it through. But there seems to be support

684
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 1: for it. But just for yeah, just for the marijuana

685
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: oil though not uh like dispensaries or anything like that. Yeah. Well,

686
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 1: I mean it could be the beginning of it, or

687
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,720
Speaker 1: it could be a sea change in how in Georgia states,

688
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 1: you know, legalized marijuana. I'd be surprised. Well, but I'm

689
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:20,240
Speaker 1: wondering if it's a change like, Okay, this medicinal marijuana

690
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 1: oil works, We'll just all we can legalize that and

691
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,439
Speaker 1: that's it and it'll be like the model for other states. Oh,

692
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 1: I see what you mean. Uh. And then MS multiple

693
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: sclerosis UM decreases muscle spasms and I've seen this firsthand

694
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,760
Speaker 1: with a good friend really helps him out. And Montell

695
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 1: Williams is uh famously come out as an MS sufferer

696
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 1: who is a longtime advocate for using marijuana. Well it

697
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 1: makes sense again. I mean, if you're having muscle spasms,

698
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 1: perhaps your endocannabinoid system is not functioning correctly and the

699
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 1: THHC goes in and actually supplements it. Yeah, you know,

700
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 1: and also I remember I said that it fights cancer.

701
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 1: Ye oh yeah, if you're go onto cancer dot COVN

702
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: type cannabis and cinal cannabis. I think it brings up

703
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 1: basically a laundry list of all of the ways that

704
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:08,800
Speaker 1: marijuana helps. And it's been found to fight to destroy

705
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 1: cancer cells like THHC goes in and destroys cancer cells

706
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,720
Speaker 1: in the liver. Apparently it's been shown to destroy cancer

707
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: breast cancer cells like not helps you feel better when

708
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 1: you have cancer, can actually cure cancer in some cases. Um,

709
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: it was a carcinoma in the liver that it was

710
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 1: shown to be able to cure. It's definitely worth checking

711
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:37,240
Speaker 1: out too. And it also alleviates pain and um uh

712
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 1: inflammation associated with um injury or disease. The way it

713
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 1: does that is what the other cannabinoid receptors, the CB

714
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 1: two receptors in the body are related to the um

715
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 1: immune system. So it goes in and messes with those

716
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: and says, hey, everybody calmed down with stuff being so inflamed.

717
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,280
Speaker 1: Well that's uh, yeah, I guess that's why it's prescribed

718
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 1: a lot for arthritic conditions these days. That makes sense, Yeah,

719
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 1: rhuma toid arthritis, and that's called Yeah, I don't know

720
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 1: what that with the differences between rhuma toyed and regular arthritis.

721
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 1: You should do one uthritis? How about that? Um, it

722
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 1: is still despite all the medical research, it is still

723
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 1: scheduled as a m or classified as a Schedule one substance,

724
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 1: which is uh the most dangerous drugs that currently have

725
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 1: no accepted medical use and a high potential for abuse.

726
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 1: And there have been many pushes over the years to

727
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 1: get it reclassified uh and not in the same group

728
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:38,359
Speaker 1: as heroin and cocaine and ecstasy. But um, that has

729
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 1: not been successful as of yet, but I think that

730
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: will probably happen at some point soon. It seems like

731
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,800
Speaker 1: it's going that way. But supposedly around the time Normal

732
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:51,320
Speaker 1: was found in the National Organization for the re Legalization

733
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 1: of Marijuana legislation. Is that right? I'm pretty sure. It's

734
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: quite a mouthful. Festivals used to have in Peamont Park

735
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 1: in the nineties, the Normal rally, Hashbash. Yeah, I saw

736
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 1: the black girls there once. It was great, right, um so,

737
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 1: But yeah, Norman was found in the seventies at a

738
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,760
Speaker 1: time when it looked like I mean Carter was president,

739
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 1: Willie Nelson had smoked to join on the White House

740
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 1: roof like it was the time for you know, hoot

741
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:22,240
Speaker 1: to be decriminalized, and everybody thought like it's gonna happen.

742
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:25,760
Speaker 1: It's happening, it's happening, and apparently, nope, it didn't happen.

743
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 1: They pulled back from the brink. So it's entirely possible

744
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 1: that what looks right now to be the wind of

745
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 1: change that is very much sweeping through the country. It

746
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 1: could could be stopped. Baffled, I guess, so it's the

747
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 1: the fat Lady has not sung yet. Well, I think

748
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 1: the first step toward a federal and the difference here is,

749
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 1: you know, federal laws versus state laws. It's still federally

750
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 1: not accepted, but in states like of course Colorado and Washington,

751
00:44:53,680 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 1: and then how many states have medical like eleven? Okay, Um,

752
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 1: if anything's gonna happen federally, it's got to be reclassified

753
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 1: away from Schedule one first. Uh So until that happens,

754
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 1: you're probably not gonna see any um federal laws enacted

755
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 1: or repealed. And we should say the mood of the

756
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:16,359
Speaker 1: country right now is about split a little bit in

757
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 1: favor toward UM pot pro pot. So like in Washington

758
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:25,479
Speaker 1: and Colorado, both votes were like fifty four, fifty five,

759
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 1: forty three something like that. And then a CBS poll

760
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 1: from two thousand fourteen, I think in January found about

761
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 1: the same of Americans favor legalizing pot um opposed to

762
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: like I think forty four or forty three. Yeah, so

763
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 1: it's it's clearly moved out of you know, just the

764
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 1: hippie stoners at the normal rally and two people supporting

765
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 1: that kind of legislation that don't even use marijuana because

766
00:45:56,000 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 1: there is a groundswell of support that hey, uh, it's

767
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 1: not a schedule wonder, it's not a schedule one drug.

768
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 1: Alcohol is more destructive to uh, to your life, in

769
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 1: your body, and why are you gonna outlaw this plant

770
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 1: uh and put people in prison with a war on

771
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 1: pot that isn't working. It's like wasting money, whereas we

772
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 1: could tax it and raise money. So there's uh, there's

773
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 1: been a big title shift in the past decade, really

774
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 1: in the past twenty years, but in the past ten

775
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 1: Like if you had asked me ten years ago if

776
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 1: there would be recreational use all out in any state,

777
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 1: I would have said probably not. But here we are

778
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 1: with Washington and Colorado, here we are like where you

779
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 1: can grow it. You can buy it and have it.

780
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 1: I don't know how much, but I think you're allowed

781
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 1: to have a certain small amount, right, Yeah, Like you

782
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 1: can't drive around with ten pounds in your trunk or anything.

783
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 1: I don't know how much you can um. It's it's

784
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 1: definitely more than just like a small amount, but you

785
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 1: um and you can just literally go to the store

786
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 1: and pot. There's actually an awesome New Yorker article called

787
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 1: buzz Kill from late last year, and it's about this

788
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 1: economist that Washington State hired to basically create the framework

789
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 1: for their legal pot industry, like the economic model. Yeah,

790
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 1: and like on a on a macro economic level and

791
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 1: a microeconomic level. He's like, we're whether you like it

792
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,359
Speaker 1: or not, you're going to be competing with dealers still.

793
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 1: And so you want to make your text money, but

794
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 1: you don't want to make so much that you price

795
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: yourself out of the market and the black market stays open.

796
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: You want to get rid of the black market by

797
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 1: basically competing against them, competing amount of business. And there's

798
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 1: just all these different factors that this guy like was

799
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:43,320
Speaker 1: kind of laying out and it was really interesting. Buzz Kill.

800
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:46,399
Speaker 1: Want to check that out? Yea. Um. Alright, let's take

801
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 1: another break here and then we get back. We'll talk

802
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 1: a bit about the potency of marijuana over the years.

803
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 1: All right, there's a debate that I don't quite understand

804
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 1: about the potency of marijuana, and like the sixties and

805
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 1: seventies versus today. The debate is that that pot is

806
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: much more potent than it was in the sixties and seventies.

807
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 1: And first of all, they didn't they didn't test a

808
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 1: wide variety of marijuana strains in the sixties and seventies, right,

809
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 1: it was like stems and seeds Mexican like. Yeah. So

810
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,399
Speaker 1: that's the only way you can tell a true test

811
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 1: of potency is to study a wide variety. They didn't.

812
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,320
Speaker 1: They never did that. They didn't test the MAUI wowie.

813
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 1: They never did that in the sixties seventies. And you

814
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 1: can't go back in the time machine. So what's the

815
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 1: point in debating it. The pot today is is how

816
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 1: it is. It is. And basically, what the best you

817
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 1: could hope to do is like have Dennis Hopper smokes

818
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 1: some pot and be like huh, and he can be

819
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 1: like dead. Hopper is dead, dude, since when Yeah, I

820
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 1: just saw him on like an insurance commercial years ago.

821
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. Yeah, that's sad, it is said, Sorry,

822
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 1: a state of Dennis Hopper. Get Willie Nelson though, Peter Fonda, Yeah,

823
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 1: he's alive, Okay, So you just have Peter Fond to

824
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:02,839
Speaker 1: tell you. He can tell you. There's plenty of people

825
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 1: who could say. The point is that is largely irrelevant

826
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 1: because we're not dealing with creating pot policy based on

827
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 1: the nineteen sixties. We're dealing with pot policy today. And

828
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 1: we know very clearly that pot is more potent today

829
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 1: than it was even a couple of decades ago. And

830
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 1: we know that in part because it's something called the

831
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 1: University of Mississippi Potency Monitoring Project. Basically, they get their

832
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 1: hands on seized pot that the cops get their hands on,

833
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,280
Speaker 1: they send some of it to Mississippi, and Mississippi tests

834
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 1: it for potency. And they said that between two thousand

835
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 1: and eight, the UM average, the average amount of th

836
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:48,240
Speaker 1: HC across all samples, rose from three point four percent

837
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 1: to eight point eight percent from two eight and it's

838
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:55,319
Speaker 1: going up up up, apparently now with the rise of

839
00:49:55,400 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 1: dispensaries and the UM openly shared knowledge of how to

840
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 1: cultivate pot and do you know what you want to

841
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:07,839
Speaker 1: genetically select for it's up to a quarter like supposedly

842
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 1: and I didn't see that figure disputed th HC content.

843
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 1: That's insane. That's that will drive you and say, I

844
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 1: can't imagine that if the average is eight point eight

845
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 1: or was three point four and is now up to

846
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:32,319
Speaker 1: that's potent and that's I guess for the top of

847
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 1: the line most expensive pot you can buy. Yeah, but

848
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 1: I predict that there's going to be like kind of

849
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:44,479
Speaker 1: retro vintage push back, not necessarily that, but something that's

850
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 1: like way more toned down, or it'll be like marketed

851
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 1: to people who like don't want like that level of

852
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 1: high I guess like seventies weed. Yeah, like all they

853
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 1: have to do to market at green leisure suit or

854
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:00,880
Speaker 1: something like that boom success. Although I don't know if

855
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 1: anybody would want to go back to the seventies because

856
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:09,919
Speaker 1: I think it really was very low potency comparatively speaking. Yeah,

857
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 1: all right, should we cover some of the ways that

858
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 1: it's smoked. Well, I already covered um the joint, right,

859
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 1: that's what slim hand Slim had the joint. Um. I

860
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 1: do know that slim happens to prefer the blunt, and

861
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 1: that is a cigar that is sliced open and tobacco

862
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 1: is taken out and generally mixed back in with some

863
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:34,879
Speaker 1: of the pot and it's um was the right, Yeah,

864
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: it's called a blunt. I didn't know that the tobacco

865
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,839
Speaker 1: was ever mixed back in. It depends on I mean,

866
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 1: you don't have to. Like a spliff is popular in Europe,

867
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 1: and that's with regular tobacco like drum, yeah, whatever, just

868
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 1: any kind of loosely tobacco mixed in with with the pot. Yeah.

869
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 1: I think the blunt's usually they take most of the

870
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 1: cigar tobacco out. I think you're probably right, and then

871
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 1: you don't even need to buy a cigar. Now they

872
00:51:56,760 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 1: have blunt wrappers like basically cigar rolling papers. Oh really Yeah,

873
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 1: and flavored ones too. You I've heard of those. Interesting man. Uh,

874
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 1: you can have your just traditional pipe. If you go

875
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 1: into any head shop, you're gonna find a big variety

876
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 1: of all sorts of handmade glass pipes. Or remember the

877
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:19,240
Speaker 1: brass ones with the the little kind of tied eye

878
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 1: plastic thing in the middle for holding because the brass

879
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:25,720
Speaker 1: would get so hot. Apparently remember that. Do you remember

880
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 1: that from the nineties, Like, did you go to Lollapalooza. Yeah,

881
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 1: I went to Lollapaluza. Well, then you saw those things.

882
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 1: I remember the first time I smell pot It was

883
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 1: at a concert and uh, he was like, and it

884
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 1: was such a foreign I think I've talked about this

885
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 1: on the show. I was just like, what in the

886
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 1: world is that? Like, I've never smelled anything like that

887
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 1: in my life. It's like someone burning a spare tire

888
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 1: or something. Uh. And then you've got the bong the

889
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 1: or water pipes and uh that uses water to uh

890
00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 1: to I guess cool down the smoke. And I remember

891
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 1: that from the Scott Bayo after school special Stone. Did

892
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:06,840
Speaker 1: you ever see that one? No? I saw Zapped. That

893
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:08,800
Speaker 1: was a regular movie, but he was growing pot in

894
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,359
Speaker 1: that one. He was I think we're going to at school? Yeah,

895
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 1: And Stone was one of the classic after school specials

896
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 1: where he was a pothead that like ended up accidentally

897
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 1: killing his brother or something like he went swimming and

898
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:20,879
Speaker 1: knocked him on the head with the oar of a boat,

899
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 1: but he may not have died, though he may have

900
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 1: rescued him. The after school special that I remember most

901
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 1: vividly is the one where Helen Hunt took PCP oh

902
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 1: yeah and jumped out the window like the great story

903
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 1: of her school. I mean, they scared the pants off

904
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 1: of us, which is the point. Nancy Reagan was like

905
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 1: off on the set, like, but I remember hearing the

906
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 1: bong he smoked out of the bong Scott Bao did,

907
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 1: and I heard that the bubbling sound, and I was like, well,

908
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:48,359
Speaker 1: that's a weird sound. And then you heard it on

909
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: the Cypress Hill album years later and was like, hey,

910
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 1: Scott THEO. And then of course we talked about the

911
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 1: edibles um and vaporizing, which is like all the rage

912
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 1: these days. Yeah, and I imagine it just hit me

913
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 1: the other day. I'll bet everyone who smokes pot uses

914
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 1: East cigarettes as like little vaporizer one hitters, don't they? Uh,

915
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 1: some do, I would imagine. So Yeah. In fact, you

916
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 1: can buy like pre made cartridges of like hash oil

917
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 1: and things to stick in your little cigarette. I know

918
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 1: they saw those in Colorado stick that in your East cigarettes.

919
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 1: But we should point out, we say kids these days

920
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:31,240
Speaker 1: and teenagers um, although marijuana use and teenagers has escalated

921
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 1: over the years, you can't pin it down to one demographic. Um,

922
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 1: I think you would be surprised if everybody who smoked

923
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:43,839
Speaker 1: pot on a semi regular basis was outed about. Who

924
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 1: you would see. Um. I've heard stories from friends whose

925
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 1: fathers were like CEO executives and they had cannabis clubs

926
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:56,279
Speaker 1: where all the other CEOs that they were friends with

927
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,959
Speaker 1: like grew their own specialty pot and traded it among

928
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 1: each other. So a wide range of people UH use it,

929
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:06,359
Speaker 1: although the vast majority is supposedly I don't know vast

930
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:10,359
Speaker 1: majorities right, Although according to polls or surveys, the vast

931
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 1: majority are teenagers, followed by post teens. Yeah, but in

932
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 1: between nine and marijuana used among teenagers doubled. And you

933
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 1: know what, I lay that almost exclusively, at least at

934
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:32,879
Speaker 1: first at the feet of Dr Dre and Snoop Dogg.

935
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 1: You think, so I put it out there. Yes, with

936
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:40,799
Speaker 1: the Chronic, absolutely, Yeah, that was a great album. Yeah,

937
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 1: I listen. I can when I hear that album, I

938
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:45,399
Speaker 1: think of Street Fighter two. Did you play a lot

939
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 1: of that? Then? We we would sit around in college

940
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 1: listen to the Chronic and play street Fighter two. It's

941
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 1: a good album. It was a great game. I never

942
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 1: really played Street Fighter. Yeah, they were really good. Uh

943
00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:59,840
Speaker 1: So I found a study here. Um. I have to

944
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:03,840
Speaker 1: interjects one another thing. Um, have you seen the YouTube

945
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:07,320
Speaker 1: of Mike Tyson clips set to the street Fighter sound effects?

946
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 1: It's pretty awesome from his one man show or No

947
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 1: No from his boxing career. It fits like perfectly. He's like,

948
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:16,840
Speaker 1: shy are you getting at one point? I'll have to

949
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:20,800
Speaker 1: see that. Uh So, if you're smoking pot, it's obviously

950
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:23,839
Speaker 1: not going to be great for your lungs in your

951
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:26,720
Speaker 1: body because you're inhaling smoke. And like we said earlier,

952
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 1: there's their thirty three cancer causing chemicals in marijuana, and

953
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 1: it's gonna deposit tar into your lungs just like cigarettes. Uh.

954
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 1: And in fact, if you smoke equal amounts of marijuana

955
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 1: and regular tobacco, it's gonna deposit about four times as

956
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 1: much tar as regular tobacco. What's called the tar burden,

957
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:49,919
Speaker 1: is it? Uh? However, there was a large scale long

958
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 1: term study UM released recently UM by the University of

959
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:58,840
Speaker 1: Alabama at Birmingham, and they collected data from five thousand

960
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 1: adults for more than many years. Which these are always

961
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:03,879
Speaker 1: my favorite studies, you know, because you can tell stuff

962
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:06,360
Speaker 1: long term. Uh. And they found that low to moderate

963
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 1: use of pot is less harmful to your lungs than

964
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 1: exposure to tobacco, and I think it's uh. They measured

965
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 1: airflow rate, which is the speed which you can blow

966
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 1: out air, and then lung volume, which is the amount

967
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 1: of air you can hold um in your lungs, and

968
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 1: they found that with tobacco there's a one to one relationship.

969
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 1: The more you lose, the more loss you have lung wise,

970
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 1: and with marijuana, up to a certain rate, it actually

971
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 1: increased the airflow rate. And um. Their rationale was that

972
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 1: a cigarette smoker, like a moderate to heavy smoke or

973
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 1: smoking like you know, twenty cigarettes today, whereas no one's

974
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 1: going out there and smoking you know, well that's not

975
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 1: true today, Yeah, but it would be probably less than

976
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 1: that because it's more concentrated. But you don't see people

977
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 1: smoking five joints to day either unless they have they're

978
00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 1: they're Willie Nelson, Snoop Dogg. I'm sorry, SnO Blind? Is

979
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 1: he still on Snoop Blind? I think so. Um, I

980
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 1: could see how pot would have an effect on your

981
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 1: lungs as well, especially compared to cigarettes, because like no

982
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 1: one uses a filter on their joints. Well, yeah, and

983
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 1: they you inhale deeper with marijuana than you do with

984
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 1: a tobacco So those are both factors. But if you're

985
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 1: smoking a pack of day and you're smoking a lot

986
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 1: of weed, you're not doing yourself any favors in the

987
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 1: lung department. Yes, even though it might help you fight

988
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 1: that cancer, it may give you cancer to begin with. Yeah,

989
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 1: just use some non psychoactive U marijuana oil like they

990
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 1: give that little kid. Yeah, or marinol, although that's psychoactive,

991
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 1: uh is it? It's a THHD pill like wasting disease

992
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 1: and um increase appetite and that kind of stuff. Just

993
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 1: a mess with the endoconnebinoid system of people who need it.

994
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:56,400
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995
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:57,960
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996
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:01,640
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997
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