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Speaker 2: Our one on this Thursday. Come on in, stay awhile,

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Speaker 2: gangs all here ready to go. We got some basketball

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Speaker 2: to recap football to look ahead to football tonight vikings

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Speaker 2: at the Chargers. But we begin with breaking news. Shamshrania

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Speaker 2: of The Mothership reporting that the Blazers head coach Chauncey

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Speaker 2: Billups has been arrested for alleged illegal gambling. Terry Rozier,

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Speaker 2: ten months after it was first reported that he was

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Speaker 2: under federal investigation, has been arrested as part of his

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Speaker 2: sports betting probe. He now plays for the Miami Heat

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Speaker 2: and the FBI Cash Bettel is going to hold a

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Speaker 2: press conference in a little less than an hour from now.

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Speaker 2: Pablo Torre is also reporting there is a lot more

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Speaker 2: to come. It's unclear as far as the gambling probe.

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Speaker 2: That Chauncey Billups is the head coach of the Blazers,

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Speaker 2: but the report says that this does not have anything

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Speaker 2: to do with him betting as a coach. But it

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Speaker 2: was previously reported the investigation into Terry Rogier's behavior centered

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Speaker 2: on unusual betting activity in twenty twenty three, when he

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Speaker 2: played for the Hornets. So in addition to what's going

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Speaker 2: on now to under investigation and Chauncey Billups, we don't

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Speaker 2: know if it was bets that were placed prior to

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Speaker 2: him being a head coach. Are there bets that have

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Speaker 2: to do with the NBA Terry Rozier as well. So

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Speaker 2: information's coming in as we speak, so we'll give you

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Speaker 2: an idea of anything leading up to the FBI holding

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Speaker 2: a press conference in an hour from now in New

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Speaker 2: York City to talk about Chauncey Billups of the Blazers

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Speaker 2: the head coach, and Terry Rozier of the Miami Heat.

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Speaker 2: Both have been arrested, as I mentioned, with the gambling

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Speaker 2: probe the FBI, and that's on the heels of the

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Speaker 2: NCAA approving betting changes for athletes. You're allowed to bet

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Speaker 2: on professional sports as an athlete. We'll talk about that

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Speaker 2: as well. Eight seven seven three DP Show email address

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Speaker 2: our radio affiliates around the country. The Vikings, by the way,

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Speaker 2: getting three and a half at the Chargers over under

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Speaker 2: for entertainment purposes only forty four and a half. I

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Speaker 2: might have to move up my timeline. I told PAULI yesterday,

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Speaker 2: I want to see what Wembenyama does last night against

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Speaker 2: the Dallas Mavericks with a good front line and Cooper

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Speaker 2: Flag making his debut, and I have him as the

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Speaker 2: MVP next year. I got Luca this year. All of

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Speaker 2: a sudden, I'm watching and I go I think I

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Speaker 2: got to move it up maybe a year, because that

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Speaker 2: was an impressive performance last night by Victor Wembenyama. And

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Speaker 2: Jay Billis was the analyst on the call, and Jay's

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Speaker 2: excite is what kind of stood out that he was

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Speaker 2: truly amazed what he was seeing with Victor Wembanyama. That

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Speaker 2: he likened it to when you play NERF basketball in

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Speaker 2: your bedroom and you're dominating and you know you're dunking

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Speaker 2: on everybody. That's what it looked like. He does a

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Speaker 2: lot of different things, and he has added fifteen pounds.

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Speaker 2: He's got a good touch, good handle, he can guard

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Speaker 2: the perimeter from the paint, he can shoot the three.

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Speaker 2: And my big question his first year and I thought

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Speaker 2: the Spurs didn't do this well by getting him a

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Speaker 2: good point guard to put him in the right positions.

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Speaker 2: Stefan Castle was the Rookie of the Year and that's

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Speaker 2: the key with wembin Yama. With that kind of frame,

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Speaker 2: you got to find out you got to get him

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Speaker 2: to places where he can succeed. He doesn't have a

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Speaker 2: go to move yet, and that's what I'm waiting to see.

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Speaker 2: When you have that, I got to get a bucket.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to go to this he's on the court,

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Speaker 2: or I'm going to make this move. That's what I'm

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Speaker 2: looking for as he adds to his game. But it

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Speaker 2: was impressive, it was fun to see, and he's truly

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Speaker 2: truly remarkable. There's a lot of players who I've seen

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Speaker 2: over you know, fifty years, watching the NBA longer than that.

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Speaker 2: But when you watch somebody doing something that doesn't seem

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Speaker 2: like it's possible for somebody that big to be that skilled,

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Speaker 2: there's a they should call him cgi because it just

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Speaker 2: doesn't seem real sometimes when you're watching, but he is.

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Speaker 2: Maybe he's seven four seven five seven six, and it

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Speaker 2: almost looks like when he stands next to a seven footer,

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Speaker 2: the seven footer looks like he's six', five but that

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Speaker 2: was fun to. SEE i don't know how good The

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Speaker 2: spurs are going to, be but you know they he

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Speaker 2: had had the blood clots last year cut short as

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Speaker 2: season or he would have been a Defensive player of the.

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Speaker 2: Year trying to surround him with a pretty good ross

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Speaker 2: AND i think they can make a big jump because

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Speaker 2: they weren't that good last. Year they got the second

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Speaker 2: pick in the. Draft Dylan harper's coming off the, bench

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Speaker 2: but you, know there might it might be the embryonic

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Speaker 2: stages of what we saw With duncan And jenobili And,

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Speaker 2: parker but they also Had David. Robinson you had a

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Speaker 2: couple other. PERFORMANCES. Vj edgecombe had thirty four for the

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Speaker 2: seventy six. Ers now you, KNOW i love me Some

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Speaker 2: TYRESE maxi he went for. Forty edgecombe went for thirty,

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Speaker 2: Four so that's seventy four points with your. Backcourt they

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Speaker 2: end up picking up the win against The Boston, celtics

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Speaker 2: And i'm Watching joe L embiid and it's tough to

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Speaker 2: watch what used to be AND i don't know if

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Speaker 2: it can ever be, again because he looked like he

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Speaker 2: was really struggling AND i know it's opening night and

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Speaker 2: maybe he can play himself back into, shape but he's

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Speaker 2: been through a, lot go back to when he was

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Speaker 2: coming into THE nba with the. Back he's gone through a,

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Speaker 2: lot and he's A hall Of fame, player BUT i

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Speaker 2: don't think we're going to see anything close to what

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Speaker 2: we saw early in his. Career So Anthony edwards put

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Speaker 2: up forty one for The, timberwolves and so that's some

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Speaker 2: of THE nba from last. Night so four players had

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Speaker 2: forty or more in their team season. Opener that's the

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Speaker 2: most AN nba. History the previous high was three set

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Speaker 2: in twenty. Twenty that's When luca went for forty, Three

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Speaker 2: Anthony edwards forty, One maxi went for forty In victor

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Speaker 2: Wm banyama went for. Forty so four, players but it

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Speaker 2: was impressive last, night multiple players scoring forty or more

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Speaker 2: in What shaq called tron the real opening night of THE.

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Speaker 2: Nba AND i hope you got to See charles And,

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Speaker 2: Shaq ernie And. Kenny it's just kind of weird to

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Speaker 2: see THE espn logo there because it's you just swap

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Speaker 2: OUT tnt and you PUT espn in. There and it

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Speaker 2: was fun it was. Fun they basically, said we're buying that,

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Speaker 2: show putting it, here and then we're just going to

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Speaker 2: change the. Graphics don't change the. Show don't add anybody to.

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Speaker 2: THIS i don't need to see Stephen. A i don't

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Speaker 2: need to See, GREENIE i don't need to See pat.

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Speaker 2: McAfee let this stand. Alone don't do anything to. It you,

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Speaker 2: know all you got to do is add water and.

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Speaker 2: Stir that's. It enjoy the. Victory you have the best

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Speaker 2: show when it comes to pre and post and halftime

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Speaker 2: of any of the shows in any. Sport just let

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Speaker 2: him have. Fun And, charles they played a clip from the.

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Speaker 2: Show they'd reached out TO pauli a month ago and, say,

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Speaker 2: hey we're going to make fun Of charles in his

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Speaker 2: schedule AT, espn and they used it last. Night i'm

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Speaker 2: at a restaurant and all of a, SUDDEN i got

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Speaker 2: somebody in my family saying you're ON. Tv AND i

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Speaker 2: didn't know what she. MEANT i was, like wait, Where

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Speaker 2: and then she goes AND i looked up on the.

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Speaker 2: MONITOR i, go, well THAT'S, Espn and then all of

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Speaker 2: a SUDDEN i Saw charles and then they joked about

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Speaker 2: What charles was saying about what his schedule was not

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Speaker 2: going to be AT. Espn he wasn't going to be

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Speaker 2: doing O cho And deportes And Paul feinbaum and get

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Speaker 2: up and get down and get around and pardon the

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Speaker 2: interruption and all of these. Things so it was, nice

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Speaker 2: it was fun to, Say but great night in. Basketball

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Speaker 2: but once, again the leading story here Is Terry rosier

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Speaker 2: And Chauncey billips arrested for sports. Gambling you, know when

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Speaker 2: you're under investigation is one. Thing when all of a

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Speaker 2: sudden it's the FBI's holding a press conference and you're,

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Speaker 2: arrested that's when it gets. Different Because Terry rogier ten

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Speaker 2: months ago was under investigation and here we are the opening. Night.

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Speaker 3: YEAH i think it's interesting that this is the second

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Speaker 3: group OF nba players that THE fbi has arrested for

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Speaker 3: poker games in the last four.

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Speaker 2: Months, yeah, allegedly Well Gilbert. Arenas Gilbert arenas was just In,

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Speaker 2: july THE, Fbi, yeah hosting hosting poker games at his,

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Speaker 3: House it feels like just early, reports this might be something,

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Speaker 2: And on the heels of THE ncaa, saying, hey to your,

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Speaker 2: athletes you guys can now bet on professional.

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Speaker 3: Sports, yeah And ohio was just, like you know what

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Speaker 3: high school athletes you can?

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Speaker 2: Too go? Ahead, YEAH i, KNOW i, knew and il,

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Speaker 2: Anyway it's just, dangerous it's. All it's just dangerous because

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Speaker 2: can only speak from. EXPERIENCE i didn't have the money

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Speaker 2: AND i was, gambling AND i could have got myself

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Speaker 2: in a really bad. Situation AND i cautioned people all the,

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Speaker 2: time if you think it's just a little, bit then

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Speaker 2: it goes to a little bit, more and then a

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Speaker 2: little bit. More you don't bet, less you bet, more

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Speaker 2: and then you try to make up For, HEY i just.

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Speaker 2: LOOKED i brings back such bad. Memories be Like i'm

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Speaker 2: going to Take Ohio state And indiana is getting twenty,

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Speaker 2: four and THEN i end up losing that. Bet so

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Speaker 2: Then i'm going to go to THE nfl and Then

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Speaker 2: i'm going to double, up and THEN i would lose,

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Speaker 2: that and THEN i GO i Got monday, night AND

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Speaker 2: i'll load up on, that and THEN i would get

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Speaker 2: my money, back but STILL i would owe the Big

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Speaker 2: and in some states they're now adding it used to

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Speaker 2: be ten, percent now in some states twelve. Percent so

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Speaker 2: when you, LOSE i mean you got to factor that. In,

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Speaker 2: HEY i might lose five hundred. Dollars, no you're going

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Speaker 2: to lose a little bit more than that as. Well

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Speaker 2: BUT i just caution and especially, parents, grandparents if kids

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Speaker 2: have access to credit, cards and don't think that they're

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Speaker 2: just betting a little. Bit i've never met somebody who

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Speaker 2: bets just a little bit because it's a little bit

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Speaker 2: Here but that's. Enough with my, LECTURE i almost learned

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Speaker 2: the whole hard. WAY i haven't placed a bet IN

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Speaker 2: i think over thirty, years And i'm. Not you, know

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Speaker 2: when you do the gambling, podcast it reminds me of

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Speaker 2: WHY i don't. Gamble vegas builds those beautiful hotels because

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Speaker 2: we don't. Win, Yeah, paulie and.

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Speaker 4: We've talked in the past about the targets of. Gambling

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Speaker 4: would be like a college student who's not making any,

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Speaker 4: money or a professional athlete who's not making much money

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Speaker 4: is trying to boost his. Income Terry roziers made a

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Speaker 4: hundred and thirty eight million on the court, Already like

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Speaker 4: he's not in a jam for. Money Chauncey billups made

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Speaker 4: one hundred and seven as a, player is making two

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Speaker 4: plus as a, coach and these guys are still risking

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Speaker 4: it for the rush of. GAMBLING i, guess but this is.

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Speaker 2: Poker If Chauncey billups is involved in, poker, allegedly that's

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Speaker 2: different than betting on sports because you can control when

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Speaker 2: you're doing. Poker it's in your hands. Now, granted there's

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Speaker 3: something THAT i could, AFFORD i don't really know why that's.

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Speaker 2: ILLEGAL i guess comes back to are you? Reporting what

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Speaker 2: Well wasn't That Molly's? Game that movie where she was

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Speaker 2: That how do you assess The chargers from what we

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Speaker 7: Know it's disappointing BUT i think a lot of it

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Speaker 7: This we had a conversation about this as The hall

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Speaker 2: It we've seen this. Now it's almost like if you

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Speaker 7: Those guys learn as they. Go they're in a good.

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Speaker 7: Hour but you, know the question is do those three or,

427
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Speaker 7: four five or ten reps during the? Week is that

428
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Speaker 7: what allows you to play? Well is it better to

429
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Speaker 7: have the guy who's playing all those snaps? Anyway take

430
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,679
Speaker 7: those and then you just have to have a relief

431
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:37,639
Speaker 7: pitcher's mentality to go in and.

432
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Speaker 5: Function and you, know so it's a tricky.

433
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Speaker 7: Thing but you, Know Troy, aikman who's a first Ballot

434
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:45,560
Speaker 7: hall Of, famer he got all the, reps and SO

435
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,439
Speaker 7: i think if You're Dylan, gabriel he probably deserves all

436
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,520
Speaker 7: the reps, too because he's got a lot of catching

437
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 7: up to.

438
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Speaker 2: Do now give me. It for, instance you're driving, home

439
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,439
Speaker 2: you turn off the radio and then what are you yelling?

440
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Speaker 7: At, YEAH i mean, literally you're saying out, loud, okay

441
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Speaker 7: this is bunch, right motor scout.

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00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,639
Speaker 5: Right five to twenty five up post. RIGHT i mean

443
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:04,120
Speaker 5: that's what you're.

444
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,160
Speaker 2: Saying and can you imagine being in the car next

445
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 2: to you and they're watching you by shouting out the

446
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 2: hand signals the whole.

447
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Speaker 7: Thing, YEAH i can't tell you the number of times it,

448
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 7: happened like who what is this? Doing you, know but you, know,

449
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 7: yeah you have to steal reps anyway you. Can and

450
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 7: one thing a little bit of a different. Topic you,

451
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 7: know WHEN i became the head coach In, dallas there

452
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 7: was this virtual reality thing that that became available to

453
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,439
Speaker 7: us and we had it for a. While and the

454
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 7: reason we had it was probably because of my experience

455
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:43,119
Speaker 7: as a backup quarterback never getting. Reps and we created

456
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,159
Speaker 7: a virtual reality room where backup quarterbacks could go in

457
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 7: there and go. Through, essentially they were they were hearing

458
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,680
Speaker 7: the play from the coach going to the line of.

459
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 7: Scrimmage you could look, left you could look, right There's

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Speaker 7: Dev brian over, here Here's Jason. WHITTING i, mean it

461
00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,359
Speaker 7: was it was a real, thing and from, ME i

462
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 7: thought it was. Invaluable not for the. Starter the starter

463
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 7: is getting all those, rests but the guy who doesn't

464
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,359
Speaker 7: get the. Work AND i know jayde And daniels has

465
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 7: done a lot of work with, this BUT i think

466
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Speaker 7: that's a real thing and that's something can really help

467
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Speaker 7: people going.

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Speaker 2: Forward wait a, minute SO i go into a. Room

469
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Speaker 2: DO i have to put on? Glasses you? Do And i'm,

470
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 2: now the defense isn't going to hit, me but how

471
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 2: are they? Moving SO i know Where i'm going, to

472
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:29,120
Speaker 2: like my hot receiver going through. Progressions how much time

473
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Speaker 2: DO i have to do?

474
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Speaker 7: This, well we had all these crazy cameras at, practice

475
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,680
Speaker 7: and these three hundred and sixty degree cameras that they made,

476
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 7: up and you would have it like fifteen yards behind

477
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Speaker 7: the ball.

478
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Speaker 5: And everybody you had to stay away from the.

479
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Speaker 7: Camera but literally you would hear the offensive coordinator call to,

480
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,439
Speaker 7: play go in the, huddle walk up to the, line

481
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:52,200
Speaker 7: and you could do this and this with these with

482
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Speaker 7: these headsets, on and literally there's Des. Brian it's not

483
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,879
Speaker 7: an image Of Dez. Brian that's it right. There and

484
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,879
Speaker 7: you see the safety creeping down and you see the

485
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:02,920
Speaker 7: strong dog pressure coming over.

486
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 5: Here and to, ME i would go in. There, Afterwards i'm,

487
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Speaker 5: like this is.

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Speaker 7: INCREDIBLE i, MEAN i love the idea of, it, because

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Speaker 7: LIKE i, SAID i was the guy that was on

490
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Speaker 7: the highway calling out the, plays, Right SO i think

491
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Speaker 7: it's the wave of the.

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Speaker 5: Future.

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Speaker 2: Myself Jason, GARRETT Nbc Football night In america's studio. Analysts sunday,

494
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Speaker 2: night it'll be The packers at The. Steelers which team

495
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 2: do you have a better handle on with these?

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Speaker 5: Two, oh that's a great.

497
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,640
Speaker 7: Question that's why you get paid the, Money Dan, patrick

498
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 7: BECAUSE i think there's questions about the handle of each of.

499
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Speaker 7: Them you, KNOW i Think, PITTSBURGH i think you have

500
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,920
Speaker 7: to feel good about what they've done With Aaron rodgers playing.

501
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,400
Speaker 7: There he's played at a high level for. Them they've

502
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 7: done a good job. Offensively the defense where they made

503
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:55,200
Speaker 7: a huge, investment that's a. CONCERN i, Mean Joe flacco

504
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,639
Speaker 7: had been A Cincinnati bengal for about a. Week he

505
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 7: went down there and he looked like you, Know Kenny

506
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 7: anderson and and you Know boomersias and wrapped in.

507
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 5: ONE i, mean he was. Fantastic so some question marks About.

508
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 7: Pittsburgh their ability to defend the pass really comes. Up

509
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 7: SO i have concerns. There Green bay they've just been

510
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 7: a little up and. Down they've they've had some ugly.

511
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 7: WINS i really like their. TEAM i like their. DEFENSE

512
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,159
Speaker 7: i Think hafley has done an excellent. Job you, Know

513
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,920
Speaker 7: Michael parsons has been so, impactful you, know opening things

514
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 7: up for other, guys but then in the big moments

515
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,400
Speaker 7: the other day he had three, Sacks SO i think

516
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,120
Speaker 7: you're starting to see that thing mesh a little. BIT

517
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,159
Speaker 7: i Love Jordan LOVE i think he's still getting to

518
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,439
Speaker 7: a point where he needs to be a consistent player

519
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,920
Speaker 7: week in and week out for, Them AND i think

520
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 7: a big part of that is, them you, know Making

521
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 7: Josh jacobs a part of. It so, again he doesn't

522
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 7: have too much. Burdens so they've both been kind of

523
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:57,119
Speaker 7: fits and. Starts Green bay win a little bit, Ugly

524
00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,399
Speaker 7: pittsburgh some question marks on their. Defense in the, END

525
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 7: i Like Green bay's team.

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00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 2: More The chiefs look like a completely different. Team now

527
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 2: you Give mahomes a couple of weapons in, There Rashi,

528
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 2: rice you get worthy. Back they look like the best

529
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 2: team in THE. Afc, well we.

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00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 7: Talk about this every week On Football night In, america

531
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 7: and when The chiefs are struggling early, on you, know

532
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 7: everyone starts to get down on. Them that's the kind

533
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 7: of world we live. In and my response always, is

534
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 7: have you guys been watching for the last? Decade has

535
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 7: anyone been watching? THIS i, mean this team is, historic

536
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 7: the coach is, incredible the quarterbacks.

537
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 5: Incredible the.

538
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 7: Defense you, know they have These hall Of fame, Players

539
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 7: so to, me it was just a matter, of you,

540
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 7: know they had some question marks on the offensive. Line

541
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 7: they're still working through. That it's better the last couple of,

542
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 7: weeks but you, know getting their guys, BACK i think

543
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 7: that's a big. Thing And Rashi rice a couple of years,

544
00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 7: Ago i'll never forget. THIS i did the playoff game

545
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 7: Between miami And Kansas, city the freezing cold game up

546
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,959
Speaker 7: there In Kansas, city and if you, Remember Kansas city

547
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 7: got shell. ACKed i think it Was Christmas day against The.

548
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 7: Raiders they were. Terrible, Yeah and it almost looked to

549
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 7: me the following week that they, said, okay here's who

550
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 7: we can. Trust can Trust, MAHOMES i can Trust, KELSEY

551
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 7: i can Trust, pacheco and we can trust for She.

552
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 5: Rice those are the only guys getting. It and that's

553
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 5: what they.

554
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 7: Did that's what they did in the, playoff and they

555
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 7: went all the way to the Super bowl kind of

556
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 7: taking that. Approach so it was like they sat down

557
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,399
Speaker 7: together and, said this is the approach we need to.

558
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 7: Take this is how we're going to. Win AND i

559
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 7: feel like they've done that. Again and when they get

560
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 7: these pieces back When Rashi rice comes, back all of a,

561
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 7: Sudden Hollywood brown is a secondary, Player Travis kelcey is

562
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 7: a secondary. Player you, Know gray is a secondary or

563
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 7: a third player for. Them and so you get them

564
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 7: back into their, slots and now they're really hard to

565
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 7: stop Because Rashi rice can handle the bird and they

566
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 7: did a great job getting him acclimated last.

567
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 2: Week Your cowboys or your former, team that offense looks really,

568
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 2: good And dak Looks i've always said When dak plays

569
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 2: and he's, healthy he plays. Well it's just keeping him.

570
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 2: Healthy but what do you make of did we underestimate

571
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 2: The cowboys this year after The Mic parsons.

572
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 7: Situation, WELL i think if you look at the, team

573
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 7: they're set up to have success on. Offense and LIKE

574
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 7: i said about The, chiefs the WAY i feel About

575
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 7: dak just haven't been with him for a. While if

576
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 7: anybody's been watching football objectively without an agenda for the

577
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 7: last ten, years you, say this guy's a really good football.

578
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 7: Player he's played well from his rookie year, on and

579
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 7: injuries have been a factor for. Him playoff success has

580
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 7: been a factor to. Me he played really well in

581
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 7: the playoffs early. On they haven't played quite as well

582
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 7: in recent, years but you, know this guy's a fantastic.

583
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 7: Player so what they've done is three first round picks

584
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 7: on the offensive. Line they have a very good tight.

585
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 7: End you know you Pay Ceedee.

586
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 5: Lamb he's one of the best playmakers in the.

587
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 7: League you Have pickens who to, Me dak was going

588
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 7: to do a great job getting him. Acclimated javonte was

589
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 7: someone WHO i love coming. Out it was just a

590
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 7: question of is he back from the. Injury so there's

591
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 7: a lot of weapons on that side of. It so

592
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 7: it doesn't surprise me that they've played well as long

593
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 7: as for the most, part the quarterback stays. Healthy the

594
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 7: question was on, defense and even before The Micah parsons,

595
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 7: TRADE i felt like they were under resourced on. Defense you,

596
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 7: know who are the marquee guys and are they really marquee?

597
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,959
Speaker 7: Guys AND i felt Like Micah parsons made a lot

598
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 7: of people on that defense way. Better he made the

599
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 7: other rushers, better he made the cover guys. Better so

600
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 7: you take him out of the mix to a defense

601
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 7: That i've felt needed help, anyway and it's you're probably

602
00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 7: seeing what you thought you'd.

603
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 5: See their struggle to stop.

604
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 7: People it was better last week Against, washington But washington's

605
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 7: top three receivers were, Out so we'll find out more

606
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 7: as they, go but there's no doubt they're a juggernaut

607
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 7: on offense and the questions on defense are.

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00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 2: Real great to talk, to you have fun On Sunday.

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00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 2: Night thank you, Again. Jason you're the Best Jason, GARRETT

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Speaker 2: Nbc Football night In.

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Speaker 2: Live prior to Joining Front Office, Sports Ben horny spent

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Speaker 2: twelve years At law three sixty and he oversaw sports, betting, mergers,

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00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 2: acquisitions capital, markets private. Equity he's been covering this latest

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Speaker 2: story with THE, nba and really it's bigger than that

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00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 2: than just THE. Nba it's THE fbi with over thirty

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Speaker 2: people arrested involved in gambling schemes that had to do with,

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Speaker 2: poker also apparently sports betting as. Well ben kind enough

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Speaker 2: to join us give me the tone of that press.

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Speaker 8: Conference, Ben, Yeah, dan thank you so much for having.

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Speaker 8: Me it was it was how DO i describe the.

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Speaker 8: Tone first of, all there was No, internet which was

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Speaker 8: not great FOR us. Reporters it was pretty, intense very.

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Speaker 8: Serious there were more than twenty, officials Including Cash, betel

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Speaker 8: director of THE. Fbi very. Serious they, said this is

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Speaker 8: the tip of the. Iceberg both of these investigations are still.

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Speaker 2: Ongoing, okay let's start with The Chauncey billups allegations And

631
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Speaker 2: Terry rogier And Damon. Jones what were they alledged to

632
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Speaker 2: a bit involved.

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Speaker 8: In so there was two. Things one was this. Alleged

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Speaker 8: by the, way they're all. Alleged still everyone's innocent until proven.

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00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 8: Guilty they made sure to make that. Clear there was

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Speaker 8: one operation Called Operation Royal flush that involved the poker

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Speaker 8: scheme and basically they would dupe everyday people into playing

638
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 8: these games with high profile people Like Chauncey phillups And Damon.

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00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 8: Jones but everyone else besides the victim knew was in

640
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 8: on the scam. Allegedly so they were using technology to

641
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 8: like read. Cards they said something ABOUT x ray technology

642
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 8: where cards would be faced down but they could still

643
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 8: see what cards they, were and they were duping people

644
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 8: out of. Thousands you, Know ultimately it was more than

645
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 8: it was millions of dollars, Cash pattel, Said so that

646
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 8: was that was that it was When Chauncey bilts was

647
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 8: a former. Player Damon jones former. Player they're both. Coaches

648
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 8: very not.

649
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 2: Cool where what's the timeframe on? This Because Chauncey billups

650
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 2: coached last? Night but when is he alleged to have

651
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 2: been involved in this gambling?

652
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 8: Ring so it's relatively, recently and by THAT i just

653
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 8: mean within a few years. Ago it was he was

654
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 8: a former, player now he's been retired for a. While

655
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 8: it WASN'T i would need to go read the, indictment

656
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 8: WHICH i have right, here hundreds of pages to find

657
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 8: out exactly the, year BUT i think that it was

658
00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 8: allegend before he was a. Coach this has been going

659
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 8: on for, years they, Said.

660
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 2: But why is it surfacing?

661
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 8: Now so they've been investigating for a handful of, years collecting,

662
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 8: evidence trying to figure, out you, know how they could nail,

663
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,839
Speaker 8: them and they obviously have enough evidence now that they

664
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,760
Speaker 8: felt they could charge these. People they Arrested Chauncey billups

665
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 8: And Terry rozier this, morning along with. Others the other

666
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 8: interesting factor here is that they said that The italian mob.

667
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 8: IS i, mean this is like A hollywood. Movie they

668
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 8: made a mention of, that but it is real. Life

669
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 8: has THE nba, RESPONDED i have not been in touch

670
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 8: with THE. NBA i did ask at the press conference

671
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 8: whether THE nba cooperated with the, investigation and they, said,

672
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 8: yes THE nba. Cooperated what do you think is? Next,

673
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 8: well LIKE i, said it's the tip of the. Iceberg

674
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 8: so you, know Now, Chauncey billups And Terry rose, here

675
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 8: they're going to be arranged in court and sorry for

676
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 8: the winds by the way In oregon And florida, today

677
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 8: we don't know exactly. When and they're you, know they're.

678
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 8: Charged there's going to be trials moving. FORWARD i think

679
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 8: THE fbi and the law enforcement agencies they're still asking, people,

680
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 8: hey if you know anything about, this you, know we're open.

681
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 8: Ears they're still. Investigating so the implication is that further, players,

682
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 8: coaches et cetera could still come.

683
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 2: Out but are we talking about fixing? Games betting on?

684
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 8: Games but that was so that's the Other there were two, investigations,

685
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 8: right there was the poker. One the other, one which

686
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 8: is What rosier is involved? In players Like rosier and

687
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,959
Speaker 8: you know he's the only, player And john Tay porter

688
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,399
Speaker 8: is the other one that was part of. This they

689
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 8: were giving inside information about they were going to claim

690
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 8: that they were, injured they were going to say they're

691
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,320
Speaker 8: going to play. Poorly they were telling other people involved

692
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 8: in the scam so that people on the outside would

693
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 8: bet on you, Know Terry rozier is going to score

694
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 8: less than ten points and Then rosier would exit the

695
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 8: game in the second quarter saying that he's getting a leg.

696
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 8: Cramp you, Know that's what it. Was AND i mean

697
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 8: this was being reported for a, while but now the

698
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 8: charges are really out. There that's what was. Happening.

699
00:35:58,040 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 2: Ben thank. YOU i know you've got a busy. Day

700
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 2: thank you taking some time for.

701
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: Us thanks so. Much.

702
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 2: Dad That's Ben horny From Front Office sports covering, finance

703
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:12,280
Speaker 2: private equity, ownership and. Gambling so you got the crime

704
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 2: families In New, york and you got poker GAMES x ray,

705
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 2: tables you got people wearing contact lenses or glasses that

706
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 2: can read a marked. Card then you have prop bets

707
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 2: maybe with, gambling and that's What Terry, Rosier john Te

708
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 2: porter was involved. In but Did Chauncey billups lure people

709
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 2: to poker? Games knowing that those people were going to be.

710
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 2: Cheated AND i think that's what it sounds. Like he's

711
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 2: been arrested. With and you're talking about hundreds of thousands

712
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,959
Speaker 2: of dollars here that added up to NOW i think

713
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 2: around seven million. Dollars. Show that's. Wild it's. Wild, yeah, Pulling.

714
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 4: And you asked, Again Chauncey bill is not a victim of.

715
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 4: This he's allegedly a.

716
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 2: Participant, yes, yeah but imagine that your job is to,

717
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 2: lure not. That If Damon jones, said, hey do you

718
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 2: want to come to a poker, Game i'd, go, sure

719
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 2: That's Damon jones Or Terry. Rogier But chauncey billups, Okay

720
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 2: and then are you getting a? Kickback and if, so

721
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 2: what kind of kickback or You i'm sure that you're

722
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 2: getting a. Kickback let's say you, know the house is

723
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 2: making seventy five thousand dollars we're going to give, you

724
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,839
Speaker 2: but you got to make it worth his. While that's

725
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 2: WHAT i don't, understand because he's not really playing poker,

726
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 2: Then BUT i don't you, know Maybe chauncey billups owed, Somebody,

727
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 2: hey you want to pay down your, debt and here's

728
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 2: how you do it? Now once, again just, speculating but

729
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 2: just trying to figure. Out Chauncey billups has done well

730
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 2: in his career in HIS nba, Career now was this

731
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 2: in between when he retired to becoming coach of The.

732
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 2: Blazers sounds like, it but, wow how much could you

733
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 2: make where you? Go this is worth? It? Now once,

734
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 2: again you never do these, things and you, go what

735
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:19,280
Speaker 2: IF i get? Caught they're probably thinking nobody's gonna know about,

736
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 2: This it's just. Us but all of a sudden you

737
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:28,800
Speaker 2: bring in the, mafia the crime. Family, man my intena

738
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 2: would go. Up i'd be, like uh, Yeah.

739
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 4: Paul the one thing journalistically Is Lebron james is gonna

740
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 4: be asked about this with his, friendship long term friendship

741
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,720
Speaker 4: With Damon, jones the player they played on different teams.

742
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 4: Together The athletic and The. Times The New York times

743
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 4: are already running different article about Things Damon jones is accused.

744
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,280
Speaker 4: Of so it's one of those things whether you obviously

745
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 4: not accuse, anybody but you have to answer For it's

746
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 4: gonna be tough.

747
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 2: Week, YEAH i mean you can just say you clearly no.

748
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 4: Idea, Yeah i'm just saying.

749
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 2: That and he's not. Around he can't talk To lebron

750
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 2: he's not. AROUND i don't Think, yeah all right then.

751
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 1: The blazers players, too a bunch of young.

752
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 2: Guys, hey let's ask you about what's going on with

753
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 2: your head. Coach, yeah, well tip of the iceberg