Speaker 1: Welcome to Sharper Square, presented by hard Rock Bat. We
Speaker 1: are part of the Volume podcast Network. This is the
Speaker 1: show that makes the squares sharper and mix. The wise
Speaker 1: guys pay attention. I am Chad Millman.
Speaker 2: I am joined as always by my co.
Speaker 1: Host, my bff, my companion, my campadre professional better Simon Hunter.
Speaker 2: Hello, Simon, Chad.
Speaker 3: I woke a little sad today. I think we only
Speaker 3: have three months left a football brother. I can't believe
Speaker 3: it's flying by this fast.
Speaker 1: When I started making notes for the show yesterday, you know,
Speaker 1: I title all my notes columns like Sharp week XX Tuesday, Thursday,
Speaker 1: Sunday AM, Sunday PM. When I wrote week ten, it
Speaker 1: was shocking to me, like the on ramp to joining
Speaker 1: the Volume was so sudden. And then to now be
Speaker 1: ten weeks into this thing and the season be more
Speaker 1: than halfway over.
Speaker 2: Is I'm already kind of sad.
Speaker 1: It always hits me when you know after the clock
Speaker 1: changes and by the four thirty games it's dark, and
Speaker 1: I know when I take the garbage out later, it's
Speaker 1: going to be cold and dark, and it's going to
Speaker 1: be like that, And the only thing that makes me
Speaker 1: happy on a Sunday is the football, and that's like
Speaker 1: we're on the other side of it.
Speaker 2: That's no fun.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 3: I'm an other way though, as a guy who's overweight,
Speaker 3: this is overweight man season, got it bundled up. I
Speaker 3: love Thanksgiving again a big guy. Love Christmas like I
Speaker 3: love this time of year with football, it actually matters
Speaker 3: and the games matter like that Bill's Chiefs game. I
Speaker 3: feel like the first real playoffs tone center of this season,
Speaker 3: Like it's got me right into the mood of November
Speaker 3: December foot Well, so I'm with you.
Speaker 4: I obviously I'm a flip flop guy.
Speaker 3: I love the warm weather, but this is the best
Speaker 3: like as a football fan, as a as a cold
Speaker 3: weather fan, doesn't get much better than right now.
Speaker 1: How much weight will you actually gain during overweight season?
Speaker 3: I don't because I pack it on like I stress
Speaker 3: a hardcore. September we had a rough We had a
Speaker 3: nervous September because we had to do well. Yeah, we
Speaker 3: probably put twenty pounds on then I probably dropped five
Speaker 3: pounds since because like it's all good, right, life's all
Speaker 3: good now.
Speaker 4: But yeah, September, that was a tough month for your boy.
Speaker 3: I was stress eating because I just couldn't sleep. Like
Speaker 3: that's the hardest part. If you can't sleep, you just
Speaker 3: eat and you knock out. You know it is if
Speaker 3: you have a full stomach, it just knocks you out.
Speaker 3: Like I'll just see a bowl of pasta and I'm out.
Speaker 3: Pasta is literally the worst thing you can possibly eat.
Speaker 2: You're eating a bowl of pasta at like midnight or like.
Speaker 3: Four in the morning, Like I've worked all night. I
Speaker 3: gotta go to bed because we have a show or whatever.
Speaker 3: It is eleven to twelve in the morning. Just gotta
Speaker 3: eat bulla. Pasta puts me. I know again, I'm not
Speaker 3: doing it now now that like we're late in the season,
Speaker 3: I can sleep. But yeah, when I'm stressed out, I
Speaker 3: can't sleep. I mean again, that's part of the gambling life.
Speaker 3: Like I can't stop looking at the numbers. I think
Speaker 3: what I'm missing. So yeah, now it's all good.
Speaker 2: Dude.
Speaker 1: I haven't eaten a bowla pasta period, let alone pasta
Speaker 1: at four in the morning. Wow, that's crazy.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm in an unfair spot. I have a
Speaker 3: guy who makes it by hand a block away from
Speaker 3: me and had a field like this amazing Italian restaurant
Speaker 3: and it's like, it's the best pasta and sauce you
Speaker 3: can possibly have.
Speaker 4: I'm with you. I was on a late night pasta
Speaker 4: guy either until I met this man. I'm just addicted
Speaker 4: to it.
Speaker 1: I'd like to meet him, see what he can do.
Speaker 1: If he can turn me into a late night pasta day.
Speaker 1: All right, listen, it's been about forty hours since our
Speaker 1: worst week of the season. Talk about stress. It took
Speaker 1: me until yesterday afternoon to really feel like, Okay, I
Speaker 1: can start looking at these numbers again. Unfortunately, a lot
Speaker 1: of these numbers were already moving from what we talked
Speaker 1: about on Sunday night in the direction we thought we
Speaker 1: would they would go. Reminder, we went one and four
Speaker 1: last week in our five favorite picks. We won with
Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons, we lost with the Chargers, Texans, Lions,
Speaker 1: and Chiefs. Four favorites did us in. Clearly we over corrected.
Speaker 1: What's making me feel worse a lot of favorites that
Speaker 1: I like this week. For the year, we are twenty
Speaker 1: five and twenty through nine weeks with our five favorite picks.
Speaker 1: This is our Tuesday show. We will review the entire slate.
Speaker 1: It is our first Tuesday Show of November.
Speaker 4: No them but can be cold and gray.
Speaker 5: No them that can be surly, With bitter rain upon
Speaker 5: the world and winter coming early. Do you fear the
Speaker 5: force of the wind, the slash of the rain. Go
Speaker 5: face them and fight them. Be savage again. The palms
Speaker 5: of your hands will thicken, the skin of your cheek
Speaker 5: will can You'll grow ragged and weary and wet.
Speaker 4: But you must do the best you can.
Speaker 2: Make sure you check out the Sunday Am show if
Speaker 2: you want.
Speaker 1: The games that will be our official five after we've
Speaker 1: had a chance to review the latest line moves injuries
Speaker 1: this week. That will also include any impact from trades.
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Speaker 1: wherever you get your pause. All right, got a Thursday
Speaker 1: night game and I think you and I both have
Speaker 1: a strong opinion on this Las Vegas at Denver the
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos currently eight and a half. The first note
Speaker 1: I made on this game, no hesitation, Give me the Broncos.
Speaker 2: What say you?
Speaker 3: Shaker Chad Simon says, give me the Broncos minus eight
Speaker 3: and a half.
Speaker 1: I am Simon says, Broncos minus eight and a half
Speaker 1: presented by hard Rock Bett.
Speaker 4: I want to play a game.
Speaker 2: Simon says.
Speaker 1: It is a little shocking. I don't know we've ever
Speaker 1: had a Thursday.
Speaker 3: Simon says, I've done them, but it's shocking I would
Speaker 3: take this big of a favorite, honestly divisional game when
Speaker 3: we just talked about how we need to get back
Speaker 3: to our dog ways. It's it's really about the number
Speaker 3: on the spot, and I'm excited to dive more into
Speaker 3: this game as a week as long. Here see where
Speaker 3: this number does go. Like this Raiders team could be
Speaker 3: sellers right right now, and that's why I want to
Speaker 3: get this number out early. People to grab this number
Speaker 3: early because it might just be the Rock Bauer Show.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: They're already traded Jacobe Myers this morning for a pick,
Speaker 3: you know, to the Jaguars. There they're sellers and they
Speaker 3: should be right. I talked to people all the time
Speaker 3: within that organization that game last week, not that they
Speaker 3: dictate it if they're going to retain Pete Carroll, but
Speaker 3: it kind of did like Pete Carroll put his neck
Speaker 3: out there, wanted to get Gino. He needed some wins here,
Speaker 3: and it feels like they're a package dealer with If
Speaker 3: they keep tanking to get a quarterback this year, they'll
Speaker 3: send Pete and Geno packing.
Speaker 4: So I think that was a give it all game
Speaker 4: last week that they blew.
Speaker 3: And we talk all the time situationally, there's certain opportunities
Speaker 3: during the season.
Speaker 4: This feels like a rare opportunity.
Speaker 3: Do you have a Raiders team that played a really
Speaker 3: hard fought game and went to overtime and used up
Speaker 3: the full overtime clock, like they played a ton of football,
Speaker 3: and now they're on a short week on Thursday night football.
Speaker 3: It's pretty easy numbers to find teams in this exact spot.
Speaker 3: Six and twenty five against the spread, so nineteen percent.
Speaker 3: All right, let's check out what's it like for that
Speaker 3: team on the road even worse three and sixteen against
Speaker 3: the spreads exact spot, So you.
Speaker 4: Know, could this be an allier? Could this Raiders team
Speaker 4: pull off the upset? Sure?
Speaker 3: But this is the type of game where the Raiders team,
Speaker 3: like last I thought we had a good spot that
Speaker 3: was to me a good bet that we got unfortunately
Speaker 3: got got by the backup quarterback here.
Speaker 4: This is exact game that Bonnicks just blows out teams like.
Speaker 3: It's a bad Raiders defense that's really bad against quarterbacks.
Speaker 4: Gonna run the football, yeah, on the flip side.
Speaker 3: Defensively, I love this matchup for this Denver team, and
Speaker 3: it get right spot against a quarterback I still don't trust.
Speaker 3: Even going back and rewatching that Raiders game, it just
Speaker 3: felt like the Brock Bowers game, like he had just
Speaker 3: had defenders bouncing off on him making plays.
Speaker 4: Nothing Gino did in that game give me more confidence.
Speaker 3: He's still thrown off his back foot, still happy feet,
Speaker 3: still lock it in on his number one read, and
Speaker 3: that's the only read he's gonna throw it to him.
Speaker 3: Lucky for him, it's Brock Powers, who obviously is a
Speaker 3: game changer. So yeah, this number, I thought it'd be
Speaker 3: getting to ten. It's called the other way. It's gone
Speaker 3: from nine and a half down to eight and a
Speaker 3: half right now. So pros are coming in on this
Speaker 3: Raiders team, but I'm gonna go against him.
Speaker 4: I think they're overreading on a short week.
Speaker 3: I like the spot a lot for this Broncos team
Speaker 3: and a team that typically bo Nicks, he dominates in
Speaker 3: these exact spots.
Speaker 1: O Simon, this might have been. There's probably three games
Speaker 1: that I feel great about right now. It'll it'll change
Speaker 1: over the course of the week.
Speaker 2: This was one of them.
Speaker 1: Everything about this to me screamed, get right spot for
Speaker 1: the Broncos. A much better defense, a Raiders defense that
Speaker 1: gives up a seventy completion rate in the secondary. He saw,
Speaker 1: We saw how Trevor Lawrence did it against them, kept
Speaker 1: them going down the field. That second half was just
Speaker 1: a track meet. This is a much much better defense.
Speaker 2: Don't forget it.
Speaker 1: In that Jacksonville game, Trayvon Walker left the game because
Speaker 1: he tried to close fist, closed fist punch a guy
Speaker 1: in the face. He was a jack That was a
Speaker 1: significant difference in the game. Like you could see, they
Speaker 1: stopped getting any pass rush on Gino once he went
Speaker 1: out of the game. That's not going to be a
Speaker 1: problem for the Broncos. And they are just too good
Speaker 1: defensively and too well coached offensively. Even bo Nicks can't
Speaker 1: get in the way of this Thursday night a home
Speaker 1: favorites of more than nine sixty one percent against the spread.
Speaker 1: Thank you Killer Sports. I thought you would like that
Speaker 1: one because I know you like the trends, but I
Speaker 1: like it too. In this case, I think we're going
Speaker 1: to end up having Denver in our final five and
Speaker 1: as a contest play, and it's going to be a Thursday,
Speaker 1: a rare Thursday play for us.
Speaker 4: That'll be interesting. I definitely have a conversation on.
Speaker 1: Thursday, Atlanta versus Indy. This one's in Berlin, nine thirty am.
Speaker 1: Eastern Indie's a five point favorite. Someone was impressed with
Speaker 1: the Falcons because this one after their loss to the Patriots,
Speaker 1: and after the Colts lost to the Steelers, this moved
Speaker 1: from six and a half to five and a half
Speaker 1: down to five at hard Rock five and a half.
Speaker 1: In a lot of other places Listen, Colts were undone Sunday.
Speaker 1: A lot of turnovers specifically by the steel forced by
Speaker 1: the Steelers best playmakers of the best times, pressure from
Speaker 1: Alex Heismith, pressure from TJ.
Speaker 2: Watt. The Colts gave up five sacks and the Falcons, like.
Speaker 1: One in ten one of ten of third downs, played
Speaker 1: opportunistically but not well. They did exactly what they needed
Speaker 1: to do when they got the turnovers from Drake May
Speaker 1: fumbles interceptions. On Sunday we talked about the wise guys,
Speaker 1: I mean the Falcons and the wise guys have moved
Speaker 1: it in that direction.
Speaker 2: I think I like the Falcons here.
Speaker 4: I don't know. I'm worried about it moved too much.
Speaker 4: I like the Falcons. We talked about it six and
Speaker 4: a half Sunday night. That's where I wanted to be.
Speaker 3: You just I mean, you nailed it. They were one
Speaker 3: and ten on third down. I don't trust benex Man.
Speaker 3: I just cannot trust this kid. It's so inconsistent, it's
Speaker 3: so up and down. And we joked we really did
Speaker 3: steal that one. Like that's why we always say you
Speaker 3: just trust the number. You bet that when you bet
Speaker 3: those games. And I had no idea how Lana was
Speaker 3: gonna get there. I neither would find a way here.
Speaker 3: The way the number has been moving, it's like, are
Speaker 3: they going to find a way? Has the number moved
Speaker 3: too much? Against the Colts team that we talked about,
Speaker 3: like when it's going they're an absolute juggernaut offensively. It
Speaker 3: took five insane turnovers by Daniel Jones for them to
Speaker 3: lose by seven last week, Like can't be understated enough,
Speaker 3: how good that offense is in a game like that,
Speaker 3: they can still put up twenty points, So I know
Speaker 3: it's tough. I want to be on the Falcons. There's
Speaker 3: still one plus six out there if you're able to
Speaker 3: If I have to make a pick right now, yeah,
Speaker 3: I'll go that side.
Speaker 4: But this gets below four.
Speaker 3: If this gets to four and a half, four, I
Speaker 3: might have to take a position on the Colts. It's
Speaker 3: just International games always is going to lean towards the favorites. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and I get what the pros are doing here. Like
Speaker 3: I said, that's such a key number of betting, the
Speaker 3: six down. But hard Rock they're showing us they've already
Speaker 3: been hit by the pros. They're their first book I've
Speaker 3: seen get the five. So yeah, it's it's slowly becoming
Speaker 3: a cold sliine. I'm not gonna touch it yet until
Speaker 3: it cross. Is another key number. If you obviously listened
Speaker 3: to Shirt Sunday Night, or you can get it right now,
Speaker 3: get the six of you say able to Atlanta that
Speaker 3: at that number feels right?
Speaker 4: But man, we joke.
Speaker 3: I went back and watched that Atlanta game again because
Speaker 3: it's just like, how did we get away with that?
Speaker 3: One that was like you, I saw that, said, I
Speaker 3: didn't realize they were only one for ten and third downs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, got away with it because of Drake London. That
Speaker 2: was it. Just Drake London.
Speaker 4: Drake London. Yeah, that was it.
Speaker 1: But it's also why we bet it, Like knowing he
Speaker 1: was going to be back is the reason why we
Speaker 1: wanted to bet that game. He's the best asset that
Speaker 1: Michael Pennix has. I'm with you, like, I don't want
Speaker 1: to other than Caleb Williams rust to judgment on any
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in their second year. And I always loved Michael
Speaker 1: Pennox going back to his EU days, but he's way
Speaker 1: inconsistent and making bad decisions.
Speaker 4: He's a rookie saying he's a rookie. Yeah, so second year.
Speaker 2: Rookie kind of barely played last year.
Speaker 1: So right, uh, all right, we'll put a pin in
Speaker 1: that one because five is kind of a dead number.
Speaker 2: I don't I don't like. That's why I was wishy washing.
Speaker 2: I couldn't really get a read at that number because.
Speaker 4: That much like the pros hit it that hard in
Speaker 4: a national game.
Speaker 3: So, like you said, it's it's very clear what position
Speaker 3: the professionals.
Speaker 2: Are on hard rock, a sneaky sharp book.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're always ahead of the line. Movement's pretty well.
Speaker 2: It's pretty interesting. Good indicator.
Speaker 5: Super Bowl greens that glowed in the summer sunshine, flicker
Speaker 5: and fade, and the autumn shadows and hopes that were
Speaker 5: high in the heat of September and will and die
Speaker 5: in the chill of November.
Speaker 1: Buffalo at Miami, Miami is a nine and a half
Speaker 1: point dog at home.
Speaker 2: I don't know, Like.
Speaker 1: I know it's it's you gotta play Miami, especially coming
Speaker 1: off of that game. But in my head it's Buffalo
Speaker 1: or nothing like like like.
Speaker 4: We'll throw I know it's not that down.
Speaker 3: Then if you're gonna do something like that, get them
Speaker 3: to two and a half, like take him in a
Speaker 3: seven point teaser or something.
Speaker 1: But here's the flip side. Hold on, let me interrupt
Speaker 1: you for one second, cause here's the flip side. We
Speaker 1: got so burned by my favorites last week, it almost
Speaker 1: makes sense that we would have to lean into Miami here.
Speaker 3: Well, it's just it's also a little bit of an
Speaker 3: inflated line. In my opinion, it's like the Bills minus
Speaker 3: nine and a half. They can't stop the run. They're
Speaker 3: going against it one of the best run blocking scheme
Speaker 3: teams in all of football.
Speaker 4: And I don't know. It's like, like I was talking
Speaker 4: to the guy the other day.
Speaker 3: My dream scenario again these trades never happened, would be
Speaker 3: for a guy like a Chan to go to the Chiefs,
Speaker 3: like they had a Jamal Charles type in the Chiefs
Speaker 3: offense in a lifetime.
Speaker 4: That's like the perfect matchup.
Speaker 3: But I talk to people on AAM and they're like, yeah,
Speaker 3: we're looking for a first and a second.
Speaker 4: It's like, no one's gonna trade you that for this guy.
Speaker 3: It's so they highly value Chan and this feels like
Speaker 3: an eight Chan game. And you know the Bills the
Speaker 3: last time they played them, that was when it was
Speaker 3: all going really negative for that Miami team and Miami.
Speaker 4: Back door covered it whatever it was.
Speaker 3: But just looking at this line, you're right, like, we
Speaker 3: know we're supposed to bet Miami. I don't know if
Speaker 3: I'm gonna force it in to be one of my
Speaker 3: favorite bets, but it's like a nine and a.
Speaker 4: Half some books touch ten.
Speaker 3: I'll take Miami, but god, it's I just it's hard
Speaker 3: to trust Miami. They're just so dysfunctional right now, it's
Speaker 3: all crashing down. So it was like last week against
Speaker 3: the Ravens. They had all these opportunities. They out played
Speaker 3: the Ravens in the first half, and they just kept
Speaker 3: shoot themselves in the foot self inflicted wounds, and then
Speaker 3: the second half they just couldn't do a single thing.
Speaker 3: So I'm going to be it's hard to trust this
Speaker 3: Miami team, but I gotta expect I'll extended rest playing
Speaker 3: against the Bills team come off a high emotional win
Speaker 3: this past Sunday, now going on the road to play
Speaker 3: Miami here just you know, a point or two inflated line.
Speaker 3: Once again, not going to force it in, but I
Speaker 3: do have a model at seven and a half.
Speaker 1: So I think what's interesting here that we got to
Speaker 1: be cognizant of for today at least, is who's going
Speaker 1: to be a seller.
Speaker 2: We just talked about it with the Raiders.
Speaker 1: We saw the Miami has already traded Jalen Phillips to
Speaker 1: the Eagles, so who else are they going to get
Speaker 1: rid of? But by the end of the day, will
Speaker 1: Jalen Waddle be on the Miami Dolphins? And if so,
Speaker 1: with that impact our thinking about betting the Dolphins as
Speaker 1: huge underdogs.
Speaker 2: I think you're right.
Speaker 1: The Dolphins are the right side here, they're the play.
Speaker 1: But I kind of want to wait until I know
Speaker 1: a little bit more about who's going to be playing.
Speaker 4: And we don't really want to do it again.
Speaker 3: There's tens out there people, you can grab the tens
Speaker 3: if you want, But it's like, I don't want to.
Speaker 2: Bet the Dolphins. Yeah, you know who else?
Speaker 1: I don't want to bet the Chicago Bears a minus
Speaker 1: three and a half against the New York Football Giants.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I love Ben Johnson.
Speaker 4: I love him.
Speaker 3: Bet your bottom dollar you lose the Blues and Chicago chicag.
Speaker 1: The other day in the Chicago text chain that there
Speaker 1: was a great sort of meme that I got sent.
Speaker 1: It said, at the top is it's so over the
Speaker 1: bottom that to the right is we're so back. To
Speaker 1: the bottom is it's over, And to the left is
Speaker 1: we're back. Like that's the life cycle of a Bears
Speaker 1: fan and we lived it all on Sunday. Ben Johnson,
Speaker 1: to me is the saving grace. Every time I watch
Speaker 1: a Ben Johnson video postgame celebration, thrilled, he'll drop in.
Speaker 1: He just drops in we got some stuff to work on.
Speaker 2: We're going to talk about that tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Today we are going to celebrate our win because it's
Speaker 1: hard to win in the National Football League, and this
Speaker 1: team believes in him. Whether or not Caleb can do it,
Speaker 1: get us to the super Bowl, by the way, Simon,
Speaker 1: because that's how I think about it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: I love Ben Johnson. Here's my problem. Let me take
Speaker 2: you through this game.
Speaker 1: This defense is so bad, like if not for the
Speaker 1: Bengals defense being so bad, the Bears do not win
Speaker 1: that game. And this is the kind of defense that
Speaker 1: Jackson Dart can get healthy against. Right, he can scamper
Speaker 1: all over this defense. The secondary gives up a seventy
Speaker 1: or the team gives up a seventy one percent completion rate,
Speaker 1: tie with the Raiders for the worst in the league.
Speaker 1: They're especially bad at under erneath passes, Like if you
Speaker 1: look back at the Bear schedule, they've basically spent most
Speaker 1: of the year making mediocre quarterbacks look really really good
Speaker 1: and they're only wins by margin this year are the
Speaker 1: Cowboys big blowout. A lot of turnovers from the Cowboys
Speaker 1: and the Saints, which if the Saints weren't turning the
Speaker 1: ball over that game is much much closer. So I'm
Speaker 1: kind of leading Giants in three and a half.
Speaker 3: Here, Yeah, And that's that's why they're goin to just
Speaker 3: make it funny little bit for the Super Bowl talk,
Speaker 3: because it's like, you guys only beat horrible, terrible teams, right,
Speaker 3: and that's reflected this year. And that's why you should
Speaker 3: be excited about your head coach because that's your coach
Speaker 3: beating the difference because bad teams don't beat bad teams, right, Like,
Speaker 3: at least you're above bad teams at this point where
Speaker 3: you're not dropping games you should be winning. So the
Speaker 3: Giants to me are a bad team and they're one
Speaker 3: of the worst run defenses in all football. This is
Speaker 3: the exact type of team you want to face if
Speaker 3: you or the Bears. But you're right, the line makes
Speaker 3: me want to take the Giants. You don't have the
Speaker 3: defense to be catching three and a half, so it's
Speaker 3: another game you can easily get burned, like just like
Speaker 3: the Dolphins. But it feels like got to get back
Speaker 3: to old ways. Supposed to bet the Bears here, I
Speaker 3: mean at the Giants now with the hook if it
Speaker 3: was minus three, minus two and a half. I could
Speaker 3: have talked us into taking this Bear side just because
Speaker 3: I think they'll be able to move the ball anytime
Speaker 3: they won against the Giants. But like you said, Dart's
Speaker 3: gonna have a ton of opportunities to push the ball
Speaker 3: downfield and use his legs against this really suspect Bears team.
Speaker 3: That didn't you guys just lose another when you're another
Speaker 3: pass rusher.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's just bad. You guys are just having
Speaker 4: bad luck.
Speaker 3: You're already a bad defense and you've been hit by
Speaker 3: a brutal injury bug. So yeah, it's anytime your defense
Speaker 3: gives a forty two points to Joe Flacco. I know
Speaker 3: it's lazy talk to say, yeah, there are a bad defense.
Speaker 3: We gotta fade them here with Dart, But it's just
Speaker 3: to be just to bring it back to the number.
Speaker 3: That's what we're trying to say here. It's that's that's
Speaker 3: the point.
Speaker 4: Sing.
Speaker 3: Your defense is so bad, I don't know if you
Speaker 3: can carry a minus three and a half favorite right now.
Speaker 3: So yeah, plus three and a half. I guess I
Speaker 3: got to do the Giants, but I don't feel great
Speaker 3: about it. They just no scataboo all the injuries. It
Speaker 3: just it's really catch it up to that offense in
Speaker 3: the last two weeks, they've just not looked the same now.
Speaker 1: But look, to me, there's a similarity here to the
Speaker 1: Commanders and.
Speaker 2: How they played.
Speaker 1: The Bears and their ability to use Jayden Daniels and
Speaker 1: have them split the defense and run up the middle
Speaker 1: sort of these these design draws and also if the
Speaker 1: pass rush gets too far upfield, he finds a hole
Speaker 1: through the middle. Like that's what Jackson Dart is really
Speaker 1: good at and he's been really.
Speaker 2: Really accurate this year.
Speaker 1: So I think there's so much room underneath for the
Speaker 1: Giants to find receivers that they basically just have possession receivers.
Speaker 2: You know. So I worry.
Speaker 1: I worry, and that's why I want to be on
Speaker 1: the Giants. New Orleans at the Carolina Panthers, Panthers and
Speaker 1: minus five. You mentioned the Panthers on Sunday en it
Speaker 1: as a game you liked. We've all thankfully moved on
Speaker 1: from the Saints are competitive phase of the season we've entered.
Speaker 1: We love the Panthers phase of the season. We know
Speaker 1: the Panthers are going to want to run the ball
Speaker 1: with Rico Daudell. It's how they have won big games
Speaker 1: on the road this year, and we know they are
Speaker 1: better at home. Saints d bottom five in the league
Speaker 1: is a rush defense, like across every metric, right, so
Speaker 1: there is a clear advantage. I will say this number
Speaker 1: is flirting with a Saints line. I'm not saying it is,
Speaker 1: but I do think it's flirting with it A five
Speaker 1: and a half. It definitely was, which is why it's
Speaker 1: moved to five. That's what it was on Sunday five
Speaker 1: and a half. But that's the one thing that me
Speaker 1: nervous is that we so love the Saints and we've
Speaker 1: been getting burned by favorites this past week. Are we
Speaker 1: clouded right now?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: And it's a Carolina team that we already love, coming
Speaker 3: off the biggest win they've had as a franchise and
Speaker 3: since Cam Newton, is that fair to say, like this
Speaker 3: is this win put them to five wins, five and
Speaker 3: four in the NFC outside chance in a wildcard. They're
Speaker 3: like the Bears, Like it's just two teams that need
Speaker 3: desperately to win these games. And anytime you can steal
Speaker 3: a game like that is Caroline. Like we said, Bryce
Speaker 3: Seong through for one hundred yards. I don't know if
Speaker 3: we're buying them at their peak. Like I think that
Speaker 3: they were a good team that stole that game last week.
Speaker 3: Like I saw some crazy stats I didn't even realize.
Speaker 3: I wish I had mentioned on Sunday. They did not
Speaker 3: punt Green Bay in that game. They didn't punt the
Speaker 3: entire game. That's so crazy. When you go back and
Speaker 3: rewatch it, it's like they had their opportunities. Carolina is just
Speaker 3: a good team and they're well coached. Shockingly so, Tyler
Speaker 3: Shuck is terrible. Like I watched a lot of that
Speaker 3: Rams game. There's no way he gives him a better
Speaker 3: chance than Spencer Rattler. And you know that's just a
Speaker 3: draft pick you make because he never played really in college,
Speaker 3: and when he did play, you saw a lot of big,
Speaker 3: big time ARNT talent. But I think he's like an
Speaker 3: old man at this point. He's already like twenty five
Speaker 3: or twenty six, which is old in football years, and he's.
Speaker 4: Got happy feet.
Speaker 3: I just really, I just like you, I wanted to
Speaker 3: avoid this game because it's like I am I overvaluing this.
Speaker 3: My model has it at seven, so at least I'm
Speaker 3: getting a good number must when my computer thinks when
Speaker 3: I'm like, like you, the alarm bells are ringing here,
Speaker 3: Am I overvaluing this team? But I like this match
Speaker 3: for the Panthers, and I just don't see how New
Speaker 3: Orleans Saints' offense can keep up with this Panthers team
Speaker 3: where this is a get right game for them, because
Speaker 3: like you said, the Saints struggle against the run. That
Speaker 3: just sets up Bryce Young to push the ball downfield
Speaker 3: once those safeties drop in. That's what he's been so
Speaker 3: great at this year is finally there's open windows downfield.
Speaker 3: I like dismetch a lot for the Panthers. So interesting
Speaker 3: line movement a couple of books. Yeah, popped minus four
Speaker 3: and a half on the Panthers. So like Chad's saying,
Speaker 3: professionals are coming on the Saints, not gonna rush in
Speaker 3: that take on minus five.
Speaker 4: It's not that big of a key number. So if
Speaker 4: moves the four and a half, I'll grab it.
Speaker 3: If it goes back up to five and a half
Speaker 3: in its trending towards six, I'll come in and grab
Speaker 3: the five and a half. So yeah, no bet for
Speaker 3: me yet on this game. Just watching the line movement,
Speaker 3: see where it goes.
Speaker 1: Bryce Young consistently is becoming one of those players who
Speaker 1: you love to have when the Panthers are an underdog.
Speaker 1: He's a gamer, and like his athleticism is showing shining through.
Speaker 1: We start to see it last year, it's carried over
Speaker 1: into this year. He keeps his head up when he's
Speaker 1: running around the pocket, he's looking down field. He's making
Speaker 1: accurate throws like when he is scrambling and challenged and
Speaker 1: has to be getting the ball downfield. That's when he's
Speaker 1: at his best. You saw him in the final drive, right,
Speaker 1: He made some great passes one hundred yards, but I
Speaker 1: think he had like twenty of them in that final
Speaker 1: drive because he just he's becoming a gamer. He's becoming
Speaker 1: a quarterback you can lean into win they're underdogs.
Speaker 4: Well, he just he didn't have it, honestly, Like he
Speaker 4: threw a terrible back of the end.
Speaker 2: Zone pick that could have killed the game for them.
Speaker 4: It should have. Like I said, I can't believe we
Speaker 4: stole that game.
Speaker 3: He was eleven of twenty four one hundred yards and
Speaker 3: a pick in the red zone. And that's just how
Speaker 3: dominant Rikodato on this running attack is right now. So
Speaker 3: that's what I really feel like both of us, we
Speaker 3: think he'll bounce back here with Bryce Young in this game.
Speaker 3: But it's just that running attack I feel will always
Speaker 3: keep us above Border Carolina this year. And like we
Speaker 3: keep saying, they're a sneaky seventh seed if they can
Speaker 3: get there, they have the offense. We just I think
Speaker 3: we both agree they do not have the defense right
Speaker 3: now to be a playoff team.
Speaker 1: Is Tyler Schuck one season away from eating pasta alone
Speaker 1: in his house at four am?
Speaker 2: Just stress eating fuy enough?
Speaker 4: I mean some people have called that living the dream.
Speaker 1: You call your nightmare, dude, that the only thing I'm
Speaker 1: doing at four AMSPN.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 1: Cleveland at the New York Jets, The New York Jets,
Speaker 1: this lumbers move from one and a half to Simon, Hello,
Speaker 1: they're coming off a bye.
Speaker 2: Are the New York Jets a juggernaut?
Speaker 1: And look if if it's a big if they can
Speaker 1: be halfway competent. I like the Jets here because I
Speaker 1: do think the Cleveland Browns offensively, they just cannot do anything.
Speaker 1: They do not have a professional quarterback in the room
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 2: If they did, they would be playing him. So to me,
Speaker 2: this is really about the Jets. You had a lot
Speaker 2: of thoughts on this.
Speaker 1: We talked about this before we came on the air
Speaker 1: for a minute about this number, So share what you're thinking.
Speaker 4: I know, I hate it. I love it. People.
Speaker 3: This is almost why Simon says about like said, hard
Speaker 3: Rocks already moved.
Speaker 4: There's a couple of one and a half's out there.
Speaker 3: On the Jets you can still get. We'll chuck real quick,
Speaker 3: but yeah, there's still they're still out there at two
Speaker 3: of the really big public books, so you can still
Speaker 3: get the one and a half if you can find it.
Speaker 3: But this is an It's another game where it was
Speaker 3: just like our stupid rationale are taking them with Cincy.
Speaker 3: There's they're gonna steal games, They're gonna win games. This
Speaker 3: Jets team, They's just it's just the way football is.
Speaker 3: And you look at this matchup, like we talked about,
Speaker 3: I agree, it's terrifying to think of that front of
Speaker 3: this Bengals team playing against this Jets team.
Speaker 4: But my hope, which.
Speaker 3: Again I've been suckering into it before, is that justin
Speaker 3: fields and this offense found something against the Bengals to
Speaker 3: take into that bye week and use it in this
Speaker 3: type of matchup, Like you have a quarterback that can
Speaker 3: use his legs against Miles Garrett. That's the only cryptonite
Speaker 3: Miles Garrett has. If you just run away from him
Speaker 3: and he can't catch you, that's the only way you
Speaker 3: could stop. And there's no one on their team that
Speaker 3: can block Miles Garrett. There's nothing they can do blocking wise,
Speaker 3: but scheme wise, you can use your quarterback an outside
Speaker 3: the pocket and run away from them with the running
Speaker 3: back that I like the way this Jets team can
Speaker 3: attack this Browns offense. And we always talk about this
Speaker 3: Browns team is different away from home. Off the grass,
Speaker 3: like we always say, it's a fast field. People forget medlife.
Speaker 3: I mean they don't forget we all know because it
Speaker 3: takes people's achilles and knees every week. It's a turf field,
Speaker 3: so it's a fast field, which again benefits this Jets
Speaker 3: team in a matchup where I just can't get over
Speaker 3: this kid Gabriel, Like, I am shocked they didn't announce
Speaker 3: Sanders was gonna be the start of this week. So
Speaker 3: everything is just so negative behind that Browns team behind
Speaker 3: closed doors, and I mean I know they're coming off
Speaker 3: a bye week as well.
Speaker 4: I just can't. I can't see it with this kid, Gabriel.
Speaker 4: I know you're in the same boat as me.
Speaker 3: Like I've watched so much of him play now I
Speaker 3: forever feel so lucky. We did take that Miami spot
Speaker 3: where that Cleveland team was obviously the right choice there,
Speaker 3: and he threw the ball five times like that's how
Speaker 3: they have to win. So could they get it this
Speaker 3: against this Jets team? Of course, we know the Jets.
Speaker 3: They're and also a team like our sellers. They couldn't
Speaker 3: move Breest Hall, which would be a big deal, right,
Speaker 3: He's been are going to be their best offensive piece
Speaker 3: this season run the ball. So I'm not diving all
Speaker 3: in on Jets here yet, but I do want people
Speaker 3: to grab the one and a half if possible, because
Speaker 3: I think that's the Pros are gonna keep coming in.
Speaker 3: I could easily see this again to two and a
Speaker 3: half three by kickoff, and if you don't take a
Speaker 3: position at that point. If it's three, sure you could
Speaker 3: take the Browns. But it mist one one, it's one
Speaker 3: and a half.
Speaker 4: This is the Jets number. I'd grab it before it moved.
Speaker 1: The other thing I would add one of the reasons
Speaker 1: why we liked New England against the Browns a few
Speaker 1: weeks ago, other than the fact it was a Browns
Speaker 1: defense on the road, the brown secondary is susceptible to
Speaker 1: big plays. And the one thing that the Jets have
Speaker 1: been able to do this year occasionally, and Justin Fields
Speaker 1: showed a little bit of this the other last week
Speaker 1: or two weeks ago, is throwing the ball deep.
Speaker 2: And any kind of explosive play.
Speaker 1: So to me, there is one little offensive advantage, a creak,
Speaker 1: sneak offensive advantage for the Jets in this game. We
Speaker 1: talked about it more than I thought we would, like
Speaker 1: I thought I was gonna want to be on the
Speaker 1: Jets and you're gonna be like, come on, like, let's
Speaker 1: not be silly here.
Speaker 2: But so I'm glad an agreement on that.
Speaker 1: The one thing that does scare me is I don't
Speaker 1: know who's like, who are they gonna get rid of,
Speaker 1: you know, by the end of today.
Speaker 4: I just don't know.
Speaker 1: Jacksonville is Houston. Houston is a one point favorite. The
Speaker 1: number is moved in favor of Jacksonville. I'm not surprised.
Speaker 1: I was actually surprised that the number was at one
Speaker 1: and a half on Sunday night and by yesterday night.
Speaker 1: By last night, it's still had it moved to one.
Speaker 1: It finally moved to one this morning, at least.
Speaker 2: At hard Rock. Like c. J.
Speaker 1: Stroud is in the concussion protocol, the Jags D is
Speaker 1: not the Broncos D that Houston just played it yet and.
Speaker 2: The Texans deep, I don't know.
Speaker 1: It may literally make Trevor Lawrence's head spin. It might
Speaker 1: be more than he can handle. So it's tough to
Speaker 1: bet on the team that is playing with its backup
Speaker 1: quarterback as a favorite. If I could get Houston as
Speaker 1: an underdog at some point, I'd be more interested.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I hate I hate it because it's we know
Speaker 3: we're supposed to bet Houston. I think we're both just
Speaker 3: so burned by watching three quarters of Davis Mills just
Speaker 3: do nothing.
Speaker 1: But that Roncos defense is so good like the Jags defense.
Speaker 1: I know, they just made Geno Smith look like a hero.
Speaker 1: He scored twenty nine points against them, like they scored
Speaker 1: god knows how many points in the second half. So
Speaker 1: it's not the same defense, and he's got a week
Speaker 1: to figure it out. He's not coming in cold at
Speaker 1: the end of the second in the middle of the
Speaker 1: second quarter.
Speaker 3: And that's the biggest deal is he hasn't prepared or
Speaker 3: practice with the ones you know all year. Definitely wasn't
Speaker 3: probably diving in until midnight every night, preparing in the
Speaker 3: playbook in case he started this past week, which again
Speaker 3: this is he knows the deal, like this is.
Speaker 4: For his future, his livelihood. This is his super Bowl.
Speaker 3: And we always talk about we like backing the backups
Speaker 3: in their first start, usually not the second start, usually
Speaker 3: the first start. And you're right, I probably just need
Speaker 3: to swallow and take this Houston team. But like you,
Speaker 3: I'll just be patient, see what the public and professionals do.
Speaker 3: If CJ is not cleared, maybe we do get a
Speaker 3: plus two and a half plus three bump and then
Speaker 3: we're in a really good spot. Right we have this
Speaker 3: Houston defense as a dog at home against Trevor Lawrence
Speaker 3: is a road favorite once again, and try to warn
Speaker 3: you last week about it, you don't. I just something
Speaker 3: about Trevor Lawrence on the road as a favorite will
Speaker 3: always scare me because he's always gonna keep the other
Speaker 3: team in it. I feel like it's the same thing
Speaker 3: here and you're we're both talking about a lob where
Speaker 3: it's like it's another bet on Houston's defense like we
Speaker 3: have been doing these basketball weeks.
Speaker 4: It's just such a a great unit, especially turn the
Speaker 4: teams over. So be patient. Let's see if we get
Speaker 4: a plus number here on this Texans team.
Speaker 1: We have so much agreement this week after last week.
Speaker 1: I think that actually bodes well. I think last week
Speaker 1: one of our problems might have been we couldn't find agreement.
Speaker 1: And it turns out like all the games you liked
Speaker 1: were the right side, all the games I liked were
Speaker 1: the right side, and the games that we could agree
Speaker 1: on were the wrong side. So I think this is
Speaker 1: trending well for US. New England and Tampa Bay. Simon
Speaker 1: and Tampa Bay Buccaneers are two and a half point favorites.
Speaker 1: Hit It, Hit It, Hit It one hundred percent Change
Speaker 1: Choice presented by hard Rock Bet are the Tampa Bay Buccaneers?
Speaker 4: Are you sure you want to do this? Are you
Speaker 4: willing to make a choice? My choice? We can't run
Speaker 4: from who we are. Sharp dudes can just see it,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Buccaneers minus two and a half against the high flying
Speaker 1: Drake May mvping New England Patriots, and you dropped a
Speaker 1: little bit of a hint about this on Sunday night.
Speaker 1: I'm actually surprised it hasn't moved to three yet. And
Speaker 1: that's an indication to me of the respect that everybody
Speaker 1: is giving Drake May and Mike vrabel. I kind of
Speaker 1: feel like, because Baker in the box got beat up
Speaker 1: so bad by the Lions and then went under the
Speaker 1: bye week, they've forgotten the Baker mayfield was Drake May
Speaker 1: before Drake May was Drake May in the MVP race,
Speaker 1: meaning the surprise MVP that everybody is talking about who's cooking,
Speaker 1: no matter where he's playing, no matter who's on the field.
Speaker 1: The Pats have won six in a row since starting
Speaker 1: one and two. The last four Simon have included blot
Speaker 1: wins over the Saints, the Browns, the Titans, and then
Speaker 1: a nail bier against the only you could say competitive
Speaker 1: team they played in, the Falcons. The Bucks are in
Speaker 1: every way in this game, a step up in class
Speaker 1: for the New England Patriots and the Patriots on the road.
Speaker 1: They've now after playing hurt for a few months, they're
Speaker 1: getting guys back. Luke Getticky his practice window has opened
Speaker 1: after being on injured reserve. There's a chance he could
Speaker 1: play this week. Baker's had a couple of weeks to
Speaker 1: heal a lot of his injuries and ailments. A confident
Speaker 1: Baker at home as a short road favorite against an
Speaker 1: up and coming team. I think the coaching matchup is good,
Speaker 1: Like Mike Rabel isn't gonna out coach Todd Bowles give
Speaker 1: me the box.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's crazy where.
Speaker 3: I love this one too, And it feels like I
Speaker 3: give up five games I really liked on Sunday night
Speaker 3: and they all moved in great directions for me. Looks
Speaker 3: like I made a couple of great bets except this one.
Speaker 3: This is not and of all of them, this felt
Speaker 3: like one of the easier picks.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: We're happy to be selling on the Patriots, like you said,
Speaker 3: on the road here in a really tough matchup for them,
Speaker 3: playing against the team that and every metric is just better.
Speaker 3: Like flat out, we talk about a veteran team, a
Speaker 3: complete team that is going to be contending for Super Bowls.
Speaker 3: You think of this Bucks team when you think of
Speaker 3: an overachieving, overachieving team that's fighting way above their weight, Right,
Speaker 3: now it's got to be the Patriots, like everything is
Speaker 3: going their way. And you know, that's why I understand
Speaker 3: why Pitchers fans are so excited the Drake May stuff.
Speaker 3: It's crazy. I really can't go over even going back
Speaker 3: and watching that game. He's making really stupid mistakes. Still
Speaker 3: did enough to win that game after making really bad mistakes,
Speaker 3: which again, that's all you're looking for.
Speaker 4: If you're a Patriots fan.
Speaker 3: You're lying to yourself if you think you're gonna have
Speaker 3: playoff success this year. But there's a little things you
Speaker 3: can see where it's like Drake May might be a guy,
Speaker 3: which is all you want to see at the end
Speaker 3: of the day.
Speaker 4: So this type of.
Speaker 3: Game, he goes in there and wins this, I'm happy
Speaker 3: to eat it. Talk to a couple pros hit me
Speaker 3: up yesterday after he listen to our show, and they
Speaker 3: like the patriotsier and they think we're overrating a bucks
Speaker 3: team that you know, they did get embarrassed by Detroit,
Speaker 3: but like you said, they bounced back the following week.
Speaker 3: Their defense really destroyed the Saints. Maybe something is wrong
Speaker 3: with Baker and they got an info and I'm missing
Speaker 3: on it, and that he is hurt, and even after
Speaker 3: the Bible, he's still not right because he just hasn't
Speaker 3: looked right in their previous two games. So this feels
Speaker 3: like a guy right spot for Baker. Christigan Zalez didn't
Speaker 3: land right. He's banged up for this Patriots team after
Speaker 3: a really tough game against Drake London last week. So
Speaker 3: I don't know, Chad, why is this not gone to three?
Speaker 3: I do not get why this one has not moved.
Speaker 3: So I'm with you, I'll grab it now. If it
Speaker 3: moves lower, I'm gonna be a sucker. I'll by buy
Speaker 3: some more Bucks line here. But anything under three, I
Speaker 3: feel like is a great Bucks line. They just feel
Speaker 3: like not only are their field goal better, I feel
Speaker 3: like they're even better than that.
Speaker 4: Like they feel like if they got healthy guys are back.
Speaker 3: This week for them, specially that offensive line, I could
Speaker 3: see them steamroll this Patriots defense.
Speaker 4: So really interesting. The books have held this at two
Speaker 4: and a half.
Speaker 1: We have breaking news Simon. As we are discussing, Adam
Speaker 1: Schefter is reporting that the Indianapolis Colts have traded two
Speaker 1: first round picks, two the New York Jets four.
Speaker 2: Sauce Gardener.
Speaker 4: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Sauce Gardner's sort of been struggling mightily with Aaron Glenn
Speaker 1: this year.
Speaker 2: So this is a guy who the Jets.
Speaker 3: Have gotten rid of their number one and number two
Speaker 3: corner in the last two weeks because they traded uh
Speaker 3: Carter to the Eagles.
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, So.
Speaker 1: To me, is this just a breakup of a bad
Speaker 1: match between coach and player? Is it a player who
Speaker 1: after two stellar seasons has hit his ceiling and is
Speaker 1: falling off? Was it an attitude thing? I don't know
Speaker 1: the answers to any of these.
Speaker 3: They gave him one hundred twenty million.
Speaker 1: They just gave him a ridiculous amount of money. And
Speaker 1: now he's going to the Colts, who have had some
Speaker 1: issues on the edges.
Speaker 2: Defending against number.
Speaker 1: One receivers huge upgrade for the Colts and shows shows
Speaker 1: that the Colts feel like they're going all in and
Speaker 1: that they're in a really good spot right now. I
Speaker 1: don't know that it makes a difference to me in
Speaker 1: the number Like it's not like you know, Terry.
Speaker 3: Judy, But I don't know if Dylan Garb was gonna
Speaker 3: take advantage of the Sauce Pardner, That's what I mean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Also, the Saints traded Rashid Shaheed to the Seattle Seahawks.
Speaker 3: Interesting though I like the Colts when now I'm all
Speaker 3: about it there, I agree with that with the Colts team,
Speaker 3: like they're again idiots like me, and we're never going
Speaker 3: to believe them. I'm always gonna take my homes or
Speaker 3: Josh Allen over them in the playoffs. But there's a
Speaker 3: path you just got to make it with that type
Speaker 3: of offense that Daniel Jones is clicking right, So their
Speaker 3: biggest weakness by far was that secondary cornerback position.
Speaker 4: So that's awesome.
Speaker 3: They're making moves, but yeah, I don't know if either
Speaker 3: of us are greed two first round picks for a
Speaker 3: guy making that kind of money.
Speaker 4: That's heavy, that's questionable.
Speaker 1: That's an all in move. Yeah, all in Baltimore and Minnesota.
Speaker 1: Minnesota is a three and a half point underdog. Numbers
Speaker 1: moved up a little bit. Listen, I've been I've been
Speaker 1: throughout this whole week. I've been trying to find underdogs
Speaker 1: to fall in love with and not lead into the favorites.
Speaker 1: After the blood bath last week, and I felt like
Speaker 1: the Vikings could possibly be it, and I can't get there.
Speaker 1: I just can't get there, Like I have to believe
Speaker 1: the signs I've seen from the Broncos defense since they came.
Speaker 4: Out of the by Baltimore.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sorry Baltimore's defense since they came out
Speaker 1: of the by plus Lamar Jackson being back is a
Speaker 1: greater indicator of the direction of this team than what
Speaker 1: we saw last week with JJ McCarthy, who had some
Speaker 1: really nice throws and they got him out to the
Speaker 1: edges where they can take advantage of his athleticism.
Speaker 2: But Lebar Jackson is not Jared Goff.
Speaker 1: What the Vikings did against Jared Goff to make him
Speaker 1: ineffective in bringing the pressure is not going to be
Speaker 1: as effective as on Labar Jackson. So I can't get
Speaker 1: to the Vikings here, and I really want to.
Speaker 3: No, it feels like the books on the bad Line
Speaker 3: we took Sunday. Opening this three minus one twenty on
Speaker 3: the Ravens was egregious hard rock. I'm looking at a
Speaker 3: live here in Jersey. They've just moved to minus four.
Speaker 3: They were the last book hanging on the minus three
Speaker 3: and a half. With this Ravens team, it's gone. Every
Speaker 3: book now is minus four minus four and a half.
Speaker 3: I think I'll keep growing. Like you said, maybe we'll
Speaker 3: get there on Sunday with this Vikings team because it
Speaker 3: will be probably the biggest need for all the sports books.
Speaker 3: I'm somebody that I'm as well. I have just been
Speaker 3: hammering this Raven's money line. I don't I don't get
Speaker 3: the number. Raven Lamar just himself owns NFC teams, and
Speaker 3: you look at this matchup. We talked a little bit
Speaker 3: Sunday night. The worst run defense the Vikings. Yes, they
Speaker 3: did look good against that Detroit team. Tons of credit
Speaker 3: to Floores. Are they going to do it?
Speaker 4: Really?
Speaker 3: Two games in a row like this is you move
Speaker 3: Lamar off his spot, He's gonna burn you for twenty
Speaker 3: yards with his legs. Do they have the linebackers a
Speaker 3: spy Lamar?
Speaker 4: Like? There's a lot of stuff I like here for this.
Speaker 3: Ravens team, between Derek Henry's running style and Lamar's running
Speaker 3: style against the Vikings team that does struggle against the runs.
Speaker 3: So really interesting number of the book opened it. Like
Speaker 3: I said, it's up to minus four and a half.
Speaker 3: Now in most books it's minus four. At hard Rock,
Speaker 3: I still a little attempted to take the Ravens. But
Speaker 3: if we can get to the number that should be
Speaker 3: six six and a half, and this is the biggest
Speaker 3: need of the sports book. No chance I let us
Speaker 3: touch this one for contest or betting wise. But as
Speaker 3: we said here right now, if you can get I
Speaker 3: don't think he can. If you can get the minas
Speaker 3: three and a half, I'd still take on the Ravens,
Speaker 3: but I think you're the best You're gonna.
Speaker 4: Get now is the four and yeah only fource. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So I'm just I'm gonna wait and be patient this
Speaker 3: one now and see what the professionals do with it.
Speaker 3: But just a terrible opening line by the books, and
Speaker 3: hopefully people listen Sunday night and took advantage of that
Speaker 3: number because it was just egregious.
Speaker 1: You just mentioned the money line though, Minu money line
Speaker 1: I think is minus two twenty five.
Speaker 2: So did I see that right? Did I? Did I
Speaker 2: see the right?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 3: Hard Rock is minus two ten red that's moving though,
Speaker 3: Like sim I've hit that when it was minus one eighty,
Speaker 3: minus one ninety, minus two hundred. If you can still
Speaker 3: get the minus two ten, I would like Chad saying,
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna settle minus two twenty five to thirty.
Speaker 4: So I again, I'm not here telling people to go
Speaker 4: all in on this with the money line, but this.
Speaker 3: Is the exact type of games Lamar does win and cover.
Speaker 3: He just beats up on defenses that can't stop the
Speaker 3: running we talked about. This is a very desperate, desperate
Speaker 3: Ravens team playing a Vikings team coming off a huge
Speaker 3: win with a young quarterback, and howsie handled that success.
Speaker 4: I just I can't get over how bad of a
Speaker 4: spot this is for this Vikings team.
Speaker 3: On the flip side, how great of a spot it
Speaker 3: is for this Ravens team. So yeah, it's it's not
Speaker 3: shocking to see this number getting pounded up to four
Speaker 3: and a half right now.
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson's been as good against the Blitz as any
Speaker 1: quarterback in the NFL the last couple of years, not
Speaker 1: counting this year obviously, I haven't played as much, but
Speaker 1: last year especially outstanding, outstanding.
Speaker 3: I think he's like leading the league in QBR right
Speaker 3: now too, Like he's just he's awesome.
Speaker 4: Yeah. The thing holding them back.
Speaker 3: This year has been their defense, and they look like
Speaker 3: they figured stuff out like they did last year. Remember
Speaker 3: that second half of last year, and it's all about
Speaker 3: Coyle Hamilton making the adjustments with him him coming down
Speaker 3: in the box, playing more free.
Speaker 4: You see, it just affects that defense in so many ways.
Speaker 4: With him at ro Con.
Speaker 1: Smith Arizona at Seattle, Seattle's six and a half point
Speaker 1: favorite at home, the line has dropped, and Sovan here's
Speaker 1: the problem with this game.
Speaker 2: Seahawks are peak peak, peak, peak, peak peak value right now.
Speaker 1: Sam Darnold is everybody's favorite MVP candidate, even though he's
Speaker 1: still twenty to one to win the MVP. He's behind
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, He's behind Patrick Mahomes, he's behind Drake may Still,
Speaker 1: who all have significantly shorter odds. And this defense has
Speaker 1: been unstoppable, especially coming off rest week seeing what they
Speaker 1: did to the Commanders. Cardinals have lost close games with
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. They finally won one with Jakobe Brissett in
Speaker 1: an offense that basically with him has just looked much
Speaker 1: much better than it is with Kyler. And this is
Speaker 1: without its first and second string running backs. Jonathan Gannon
Speaker 1: has said Kyler Murray is the starting quarterback, but could
Speaker 1: they just sort of keep shadow benching Kyler Murray like
Speaker 1: I would much rather bet on this game.
Speaker 2: If it was to Kobe Brissette than if it was
Speaker 2: Kyler Murray.
Speaker 3: Totally agree. And I know it's been very lazy and
Speaker 3: boring to people. I've just been pound the table all
Speaker 3: year about it. Seahawks on the road has to become
Speaker 3: an auto bet. They're just the defense travels. I said
Speaker 3: the last week against the Commanders, I couldn't get over
Speaker 3: how underrated the public keeps.
Speaker 4: Beat on the Seahawks defense traveling.
Speaker 3: And literally, I know Sam Donald was gonna be perfect
Speaker 3: in that first half. You just didn't matter so much
Speaker 3: about what the defense was gonna do. Sam darnalld a
Speaker 3: night like that, you're not gonna beat them. So I
Speaker 3: just I'm gonna keep doing it. I'm gonna keep fading
Speaker 3: the Seahawks team when they're at home against good offenses,
Speaker 3: because I just they like their defense plays differently at home.
Speaker 3: I mean, just going back to the two losses this year.
Speaker 3: Week one I talked about that was a fluke. I
Speaker 3: liked the Seahawks. They lost seventeen to thirteen on a
Speaker 3: last drive by Purty in a game which Sam Darner
Speaker 3: just wasn't comfortable yet in that Seahawks offense. The other
Speaker 3: loss against the Bucks, the defense gave up thirty eight
Speaker 3: points at home against you know what, we respect to
Speaker 3: be a really potent offense right now and that Bucks team.
Speaker 3: But I feel the same about this Cardinals team when
Speaker 3: it's Jacoby Brissett. So I'm like Chad, I bet into this.
Speaker 3: I want to best up Penny more until I know
Speaker 3: exactly who the starting quarterback is. I am not betting
Speaker 3: Kyler Murray in his first start back after a big
Speaker 3: injury on the road, even though I always say Kyler
Speaker 3: is a dog, is a great bet. I just feel
Speaker 3: like that's too much ask of the guy coming back
Speaker 3: Rusty in this exact spot. It's it's too much, So
Speaker 3: I'll be patient. I'm not going to force it in there.
Speaker 3: But I man, I love this at plus six and
Speaker 3: a half for the visit Jacoby Brissett just feels like
Speaker 3: a game. They're gonna be competitive in it the whole time.
Speaker 3: Like we always say, this division, it's one of the
Speaker 3: best right now in football. The Seahawks, Rams and Foyn Andres,
Speaker 3: they're they're the teams. But like I keep saying about Arizona,
Speaker 3: they play teams close they played the Colts close, they
Speaker 3: played Green Bay close. They play up to the competition level.
Speaker 3: So I like this a lot if it's set, But yeah,
Speaker 3: I think we're both in agreement.
Speaker 4: I'm not going to force in if it's Keller.
Speaker 1: Murray Detroit at Washington. The numbers eight and a half.
Speaker 1: It was three on Sunday night when we talked.
Speaker 2: About like in Detroit.
Speaker 1: Basically, what we're being told is that Jaydon Daniels is
Speaker 1: worth five and a half points. Do you think he's
Speaker 1: worth five and a half points.
Speaker 3: This year with all the stuff that gets going on, Like, no,
Speaker 3: Terry McLaurin, that feels fair because he's not been healthy
Speaker 3: all year. He's been playing through injuries all season. And yeah,
Speaker 3: no one wants to victory lap saying Washington was gonna
Speaker 3: be bad this year in regress after a quarterback gets hurt.
Speaker 3: But everything we worried about has come true for Washington.
Speaker 3: And how do you now feel bad for their fan
Speaker 3: base where it's like it's all there, right, your team
Speaker 3: has invested to win. Now for this season, you're like
Speaker 3: the oldest team of football. Every move you made it
Speaker 3: looks like a dud, and it looks like it's gonna
Speaker 3: be a two to three year rebuild.
Speaker 4: Now, Like when you're really looking at their team on paper.
Speaker 2: Well, their defense is just so bad, atrocious.
Speaker 3: And their coach, I said it last week, I think
Speaker 3: he might be an idiot, like some of the stuff
Speaker 3: he did with Mary, treating him as if he was
Speaker 3: Jane Daniels. And now fast forward to this week, having
Speaker 3: your star quarterback who's playing banged up, still in that
Speaker 3: game that you have zero chances coming back, and then
Speaker 3: getting hurt. I just I can't get over how bad
Speaker 3: Dan Quinn might be as a quarter as a head coach.
Speaker 4: So I don't know.
Speaker 3: I know, we're probably supposed to take Washington here because
Speaker 3: the Lions moved so much, but this feels like a game.
Speaker 4: Detroit is gonna win forty to nine.
Speaker 3: Just all their frustration from the week before, Campbell just
Speaker 3: pours it on.
Speaker 4: I mean, is it. Did I see that right? The
Speaker 4: levou is suspended the linebacker.
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I think he guts spend it for hip
Speaker 3: drop tackle. He keeps doing it, and they're like, dude, we're
Speaker 3: already finding enough. Maybe it was a third or fourth offense.
Speaker 3: He's their best, in my opinion, their best defender, Like
Speaker 3: he is really really good linebacker, so you take him out.
Speaker 3: Now you have a thirty seven year old linebacker trying
Speaker 3: to cover the tight ends in the middle of the
Speaker 3: field against this Lions team. Just disaster every way. So
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's gone high enough. I saw
Speaker 3: a couple of books hit nine and a half and
Speaker 3: it's come back down to eight and a half.
Speaker 4: So there is professional money holding us back here. Maybe
Speaker 4: I just am so bitter at Detroit because they burned
Speaker 4: us so bad last week. But this is when we're
Speaker 4: supposed to take Detroit.
Speaker 3: So I'm trying to try not to overreact because we
Speaker 3: got so burned last week by these favorites that there
Speaker 3: are some favorites we just might have to take here,
Speaker 3: and the lines might be one of them. It's like, Okay,
Speaker 3: Mariona might get his against the suspect Lions defense at
Speaker 3: some point, but overall, I just see this Detroit offense
Speaker 3: do whatever they want.
Speaker 4: This watch of the defense might be one of the
Speaker 4: worst in the league.
Speaker 2: It's a tricky one because we're just scared off by
Speaker 2: the big number.
Speaker 4: Again. We just got burned by the Science team.
Speaker 1: It's still just got burned by a lot of teams
Speaker 1: on the big number. And and it's going back into
Speaker 1: the well on the same exact theory that Detroit can't
Speaker 1: be bad again.
Speaker 3: Right, That wasn't our theory last week. That was a
Speaker 3: good matchup. I just again, We got golf, got.
Speaker 2: Got got yeah, exactly, Yeah.
Speaker 4: Patients, patience, composure.
Speaker 2: It's all right.
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Speaker 2: All right, so another game.
Speaker 1: We were just talking about Seattle in Zona and how
Speaker 1: good the NFC West is. The Rams going to San Francisco,
Speaker 1: and look, I really want to love San Francisco. Here
Speaker 1: the line is three and a half. I don't know
Speaker 1: how they're going to play defense in this game. They
Speaker 1: lost another edge defender in Michel Williams, their first round
Speaker 1: draft pick. I know you love Mac and maybe he'll
Speaker 1: be playing quarterback, but the Rams rush d is elite.
Speaker 1: There is no hole in this defensive unit. They're like
Speaker 1: top five across every advanced metric including fifth and EPA
Speaker 1: per rush. So like the Niners are empty at D line,
Speaker 1: they're empty at linebacker. It's a tricky one. The line
Speaker 1: has moved from three to three and a half. I
Speaker 1: know you want to play the Niners here, but.
Speaker 2: It's it's ugly.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's definitely a word world war.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 3: I'm a lover of Mac Jones, a guy who I
Speaker 3: just notorilously shut him for years.
Speaker 1: And I and I'm all over the rams, Like when
Speaker 1: I used to love betting Kyle Shannon as a home
Speaker 1: dog in a in a game where they're they should
Speaker 1: it doesn't.
Speaker 3: I mean, it feels like you're you're you're overthinking. It's like,
Speaker 3: are are we supposed to take? Not think about this one?
Speaker 3: Take fort n Ice right. Shockingly enough with Purdy, I
Speaker 3: got if he was fully healthy. I have this line
Speaker 3: that minus are plus two for the forty nine ers,
Speaker 3: so they'd still be a dog. Mac Jones is one
Speaker 3: point difference. Once again, That's why I keeps trying to
Speaker 3: say the mac Jones thing. I think it's closer than
Speaker 3: you realize. They're not that different playing in the Shanehanne system.
Speaker 3: And last week, I mean mac Jones, I think he
Speaker 3: was perfect. He was like fifteen to fifteen to start
Speaker 3: the game, so we've seen it. He can push the
Speaker 3: ball down feeling like you said, that's the nervous part
Speaker 3: here is we're back in the fortn Iris team that
Speaker 3: just has another thing left. Defensively, by far, the best
Speaker 3: offense they've played since they've lost.
Speaker 4: Spread like that Atlanta totally knows, showed they haven't really
Speaker 4: had a test.
Speaker 3: Right. It went Atlanta, Houston and the Giants. That's not
Speaker 3: three juggernaut of offenses. So you're right for your skepticism.
Speaker 3: I just this feels like the type of games of
Speaker 3: the Rams just lay an egg on, especially the fact
Speaker 3: that this is going to be one of the bigger
Speaker 3: public sides of the week.
Speaker 4: People are quick to forget this Rams team lost to
Speaker 4: this forty nine Ers team.
Speaker 3: On a short week at home as an eight point
Speaker 3: favorite by three, So.
Speaker 4: It's a tough thing. Here is the line moved too much?
Speaker 3: Like the forty nine Ers have only gotten worse and
Speaker 3: lost more players since then. The Rams have only looked
Speaker 3: better and you know, played better since then.
Speaker 4: So I think the books are trying to tell us
Speaker 4: something here, Chad.
Speaker 3: So, like I said something night, I would take the
Speaker 3: Rams of minus three because I just saw it moving
Speaker 3: this way. But I said, I feel like I'm gonna
Speaker 3: have to end up on this forty other side. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna have to be on the side. So I know
Speaker 3: it's it's gross, but I gotta hold I gotta hold
Speaker 3: it here and say we got to take forty nine
Speaker 3: Ers plus three.
Speaker 2: And a half.
Speaker 1: What's so funny about this game is on Sunday night,
Speaker 1: I was all over the Niners.
Speaker 4: Were you yeah?
Speaker 2: During the show.
Speaker 1: I like, as soon as I saw it, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I feel like I got to take the Niners at.
Speaker 4: Three folks too, we know that much. You are supposed
Speaker 4: to take the Niners.
Speaker 1: Year, And like all the work I did yesterday just
Speaker 1: made me think, how are they going to stop Matthew
Speaker 1: Stafford And how is Christian McCaffrey going to gain any yards?
Speaker 2: I just like forgetting about the number, just looking at
Speaker 2: the schemes. It's a tricky.
Speaker 1: It's a tricky one. We'll talk about it on Thursday
Speaker 1: a little bit more.
Speaker 3: And I'll say this, I love our fans, especially like
Speaker 3: the ones who listened to us and our dinner offseason
Speaker 3: show this summer. I said I was not investing any
Speaker 3: money in to Puka Nakua and I was invested in
Speaker 3: Devata Adams. I feel like that was the value in
Speaker 3: fantasy football. Puka started out incredibly, but he's been banged
Speaker 3: up a lot. Yeah again in receiving touchdowns, Chad, here
Speaker 3: we are through nine weeks Adams Vante Adams eight touchdowns.
Speaker 3: So it's it was just all about value and playing
Speaker 3: this in air and I just love that matchup with
Speaker 3: him and Stafford. It's like I knew Stafford was gonna
Speaker 3: love having a guy like him who's so smooth and
Speaker 3: precise a running routes. And yeah, I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 3: It is scary betting against this Rams team right now,
Speaker 3: but this feels like such a spot, such a spot
Speaker 3: to go against them, So yeah, I'm interesting what the
Speaker 3: professionals do with this line. Early money obviously has come
Speaker 3: in pretty heavy on this Rams team all right.
Speaker 1: Time for the prime time spot, lies Chacking taking a
Speaker 1: look at our Island games. Pittsburgh is visiting the Chargers.
Speaker 1: The line has moved from three and a half down
Speaker 1: to three. Another stinky line. Not stinky, but just another
Speaker 1: bad line that the bookmaker's posted on Sunday night. Forget
Speaker 1: about it being a raw round. Mike Tomlin spot, how
Speaker 1: are the Chargers going to protect Justin Herbert? We see
Speaker 1: it every single week. They're out. Joe Alt is now
Speaker 1: out for the season. Bobby Hart, who was supposed to
Speaker 1: be an off the street sort of backup, turned into
Speaker 1: one of their better offensive linemen. He pulled his growing
Speaker 1: status unknown for this weekend. The Steelers did do things
Speaker 1: defensively against the Colts that I think were new and
Speaker 1: they were the reasons why we were sometimes afraid to
Speaker 1: bet them. They stopped playing so much man with Jalen Ramsey,
Speaker 1: they moved him to safety. They got Kyle Dugger from
Speaker 1: the from I think the Patriots, right and they played
Speaker 1: him a lot in the game. So now they put
Speaker 1: all this stuff on film so people can see that
Speaker 1: they were playing zone and it's not going to be
Speaker 1: confusing to anybody. But the bigger issue is just the
Speaker 1: Chargers cannot protect Justin Herbert and if TJ. Watt Alex
Speaker 1: Highsmith can do anything against this chief, this Charger's offensive line,
Speaker 1: he's just going to be running for his life the
Speaker 1: entire game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I hate this game so much. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 3: It's your early read on Someday was so right. It
Speaker 3: was a Pittsburgh number three and a half. Now, if
Speaker 3: you went three and a half, it's like minus one thirty.
Speaker 3: That's just totally gone hard rock here in Jersey's already
Speaker 3: moved to two and a half minus two and a
Speaker 3: half now, wow, So it's kind of becoming a Chargers line. Shockingly,
Speaker 3: my model had this had a pick so like a
Speaker 3: ton of value to this other team. I think that's
Speaker 3: what you're saying. It's like, maybe I'm underestimating the value
Speaker 3: of Joe Alt and this offensive line, how important it
Speaker 3: is to success not only Herbert but that running attack,
Speaker 3: which if you can't get that going against its Pittsburgh team,
Speaker 3: they make you one dimensional. Yeah, there are ways Pittsburgh
Speaker 3: can defensively play really well, right when they know you
Speaker 3: have to pass. You got guys like Watt up front.
Speaker 3: That's gonna be a huge deal, right, and he can
Speaker 3: just spin his years back. But I just I'm having
Speaker 3: a hard time getting there on Pittsburgh get two and
Speaker 3: a half. At three, I can get there three and
Speaker 3: a half. I'm all the way there. But at two
Speaker 3: and a half, I'm slowly starting to be like, isn't
Speaker 3: this a Chargers line? At what point does this become
Speaker 3: a Chargers line? Because to me, they are still the
Speaker 3: better team. And I just even last week it took
Speaker 3: five turnovers and a ton of things go their way
Speaker 3: for Pittsburgh to kind of win that game.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3: It feels like we have a pattern here with Pittsburgh
Speaker 3: this year. Right, the games they win, they have tons
Speaker 3: of turnover luck because it's just you know, it's a
Speaker 3: dysfunctional defense. Like we said, teams can get theirs against them,
Speaker 3: they're gonna give up yards. Can they win the turnover battle?
Speaker 3: That's how they're gonna steal games. So Herbert, it should
Speaker 3: be a great Herbert game and spot for Herbert. But
Speaker 3: like you said, if he has a third stringer going
Speaker 3: up against what, I don't care how much you're chipping
Speaker 3: with the tight end or the running back. Someone's getting
Speaker 3: a one on one against the really bast suspect backup
Speaker 3: on that offensive line, they're gonna win.
Speaker 4: So I'm with you.
Speaker 3: If you can get the plus three on Pittsburgh, that's
Speaker 3: probably the line to get right now. But I'm really
Speaker 3: not too favorable of either of these sides right now.
Speaker 1: Last game on the board Philadelphia at green Bay. Green
Speaker 1: Bay's at two and a half point favorite. It's got
Speaker 1: to be green Bay. This has to be the by
Speaker 1: low Sell high spot. I know the Eagles have traded
Speaker 1: for done half the trades, you know, how we go
Speaker 1: and how we before the trade deadline. They've added Jalen
Speaker 1: Phillips from the Dolphins. They added Jared Alexander the cornerback
Speaker 1: who had been buried on the Ravens bench. I don't
Speaker 1: know if that's going to be the solution to their
Speaker 1: you know, second cornerback need on the edge. But we've
Speaker 1: just seen the Packers lose to the Panthers at home,
Speaker 1: in which the Panthers defense was great, but like you
Speaker 1: pointed out, the Packers did not punt in that game.
Speaker 1: That was self inflicted, entirely by the Packers. Meanwhile, the Eagles,
Speaker 1: they're like, they're looking like champions the last couple of
Speaker 1: weeks so and they got to buy. So I'm a
Speaker 1: little surprised that this is under two and a half
Speaker 1: because it feels like such a Packer's line. I'm actually
Speaker 1: surprised it hasn't moved to three.
Speaker 4: And we always said heart hard rocks sharp book here
Speaker 4: in Jersey. They just hit two. So really, Yeah, so
Speaker 4: there's some professional money.
Speaker 3: Obviously, he's coming on the Eagles, and that's I knew.
Speaker 3: We saw it Sunday night. I knew this gonna be
Speaker 3: the most public dog of the week, and you know,
Speaker 3: public dogs do hit. Like the Bills were the number
Speaker 3: one public dog last week. They came to no problem.
Speaker 3: So this Eagles team everything you said is so true.
Speaker 3: They could be getting in to form here. I'm walking
Speaker 3: into it.
Speaker 4: I just.
Speaker 3: I like to think that the Screen Bay team is
Speaker 3: better than what we've seen, and when they play against
Speaker 3: certain competition, they're another team to plays the level of
Speaker 3: that competition.
Speaker 4: I mean, how many times we've seen.
Speaker 3: This year they play well against really good teams and
Speaker 3: then lay total eggs against suspect teams like that Browns game.
Speaker 3: That was a really suspect loss, and that was once
Speaker 3: again on Jordan Love.
Speaker 4: He gave that game away.
Speaker 3: How do you not blame Jordan Love for that Carolina loss?
Speaker 3: He gave that game away. He just made so many
Speaker 3: bad mistakes. So I know, I love this one. Sunday,
Speaker 3: I'm kind of flipping towards the Eagles. Unfortunately, I'm getting
Speaker 3: kind of getting pushed into it. I want to hold
Speaker 3: firm here what the professionals are saying here, I'll see
Speaker 3: what other guys are saying. But as right now, a
Speaker 3: couple of pros I talk to they do like the
Speaker 3: Eagles here. They like the number, especially with the hook
Speaker 3: at two and a half. But it doesn't just feel
Speaker 3: like a stinky line. This should be a Green Bay
Speaker 3: spot so I'm gonna dive more into this one right now. Again,
Speaker 3: can't can't get much from the model that my model
Speaker 3: has this one and minus one Green Bay. So tankicly
Speaker 3: is egos line. But I just think something's real trappy
Speaker 3: about this game. And yeah, this Eagles teams championship for him,
Speaker 3: Like you said, they've looked.
Speaker 4: This is gonna be a true test.
Speaker 3: This is a really good Green Bay team on the
Speaker 3: road after an embarrassing loss. You expect Laflor to get
Speaker 3: these guys to bounce back.
Speaker 2: Yep, that's exactly yet, all right.
Speaker 1: I mean, we're gonna have a lot to talk about
Speaker 1: on Thursday because we got a lot a The trade
Speaker 1: deadline I think is impacting some of this.
Speaker 2: We want to see where players end up.
Speaker 1: Obviously, even while we were talking about this, we were
Speaker 1: considering the Jets and then they trade Sauce Gardner Denver
Speaker 1: minus eight and a half, as Simon says, we're thinking
Speaker 1: about Miami plus nine and a half, the Giants plus
Speaker 1: three and a half against the Bears on the road Carolina.
Speaker 1: We'd like it to wait to four and a half.
Speaker 1: We hope it gets there. Jets minus one and a half.
Speaker 1: We talked about we were hoping to get Houston. We
Speaker 1: were hoping to get it at one and a half.
Speaker 1: Who Tampa Bay minus two and a half. That is
Speaker 1: Chad's choice. Would you say Baltimore at four is still
Speaker 1: a playable number?
Speaker 4: I don't hate it.
Speaker 3: I'm just again, I think we had PTSD from last
Speaker 3: week where it's like we're betting a super public favorite
Speaker 3: on the road. That's what I'm trying to tell people.
Speaker 3: I you can get I'm more comfortable in the money line.
Speaker 3: I know it's not great because it's two to one
Speaker 3: on your money, but I just I don't know. If
Speaker 3: I bet two hundred and one hundred, what I feel
Speaker 3: is a pretty safe bet.
Speaker 4: I usually take that position.
Speaker 2: We'd like Houston to get to plus one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, please you to get to a dog Yeah.
Speaker 2: Detroit minus eight and a half.
Speaker 1: We'll see San Francisco plus three and a half, itchy,
Speaker 1: and then Green Bay minus two and a half. We're
Speaker 1: going to keep an eye on. So still a lot
Speaker 1: to discuss on Thursday. There's too much movement right now
Speaker 1: to outside of our chat choice, and Simon says, to
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