WEBVTT - NFL WEEK 10 Bets: Rams-49ers, Ravens-Vikings, Packers-Eagles and NFL Trade Deadline Reactions

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Sharper Square, presented by hard Rock Bat. We

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<v Speaker 1>are part of the Volume podcast Network. This is the

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<v Speaker 1>show that makes the squares sharper and mix. The wise

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<v Speaker 1>guys pay attention. I am Chad Millman.

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<v Speaker 2>I am joined as always by my co.

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<v Speaker 1>Host, my bff, my companion, my campadre professional better Simon Hunter.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, Simon, Chad.

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<v Speaker 3>I woke a little sad today. I think we only

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<v Speaker 3>have three months left a football brother. I can't believe

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<v Speaker 3>it's flying by this fast.

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<v Speaker 1>When I started making notes for the show yesterday, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I title all my notes columns like Sharp week XX Tuesday, Thursday,

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday AM, Sunday PM. When I wrote week ten, it

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<v Speaker 1>was shocking to me, like the on ramp to joining

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<v Speaker 1>the Volume was so sudden. And then to now be

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<v Speaker 1>ten weeks into this thing and the season be more

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<v Speaker 1>than halfway over.

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<v Speaker 2>Is I'm already kind of sad.

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<v Speaker 1>It always hits me when you know after the clock

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<v Speaker 1>changes and by the four thirty games it's dark, and

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<v Speaker 1>I know when I take the garbage out later, it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be cold and dark, and it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be like that, And the only thing that makes me

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<v Speaker 1>happy on a Sunday is the football, and that's like

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<v Speaker 1>we're on the other side of it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's no fun.

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<v Speaker 4>I know.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm an other way though, as a guy who's overweight,

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<v Speaker 3>this is overweight man season, got it bundled up. I

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<v Speaker 3>love Thanksgiving again a big guy. Love Christmas like I

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<v Speaker 3>love this time of year with football, it actually matters

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<v Speaker 3>and the games matter like that Bill's Chiefs game. I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like the first real playoffs tone center of this season,

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<v Speaker 3>Like it's got me right into the mood of November

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<v Speaker 3>December foot Well, so I'm with you.

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<v Speaker 4>I obviously I'm a flip flop guy.

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<v Speaker 3>I love the warm weather, but this is the best

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<v Speaker 3>like as a football fan, as a as a cold

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<v Speaker 3>weather fan, doesn't get much better than right now.

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<v Speaker 1>How much weight will you actually gain during overweight season?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't because I pack it on like I stress

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<v Speaker 3>a hardcore. September we had a rough We had a

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<v Speaker 3>nervous September because we had to do well. Yeah, we

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<v Speaker 3>probably put twenty pounds on then I probably dropped five

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<v Speaker 3>pounds since because like it's all good, right, life's all

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<v Speaker 3>good now.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, September, that was a tough month for your boy.

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<v Speaker 3>I was stress eating because I just couldn't sleep. Like

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<v Speaker 3>that's the hardest part. If you can't sleep, you just

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<v Speaker 3>eat and you knock out. You know it is if

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<v Speaker 3>you have a full stomach, it just knocks you out.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I'll just see a bowl of pasta and I'm out.

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<v Speaker 3>Pasta is literally the worst thing you can possibly eat.

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<v Speaker 2>You're eating a bowl of pasta at like midnight or like.

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<v Speaker 3>Four in the morning, Like I've worked all night. I

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<v Speaker 3>gotta go to bed because we have a show or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>It is eleven to twelve in the morning. Just gotta

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<v Speaker 3>eat bulla. Pasta puts me. I know again, I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>doing it now now that like we're late in the season,

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<v Speaker 3>I can sleep. But yeah, when I'm stressed out, I

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<v Speaker 3>can't sleep. I mean again, that's part of the gambling life.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I can't stop looking at the numbers. I think

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<v Speaker 3>what I'm missing. So yeah, now it's all good.

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<v Speaker 2>Dude.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't eaten a bowla pasta period, let alone pasta

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<v Speaker 1>at four in the morning. Wow, that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm in an unfair spot. I have a

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<v Speaker 3>guy who makes it by hand a block away from

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<v Speaker 3>me and had a field like this amazing Italian restaurant

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<v Speaker 3>and it's like, it's the best pasta and sauce you

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<v Speaker 3>can possibly have.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm with you. I was on a late night pasta

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<v Speaker 4>guy either until I met this man. I'm just addicted

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<v Speaker 4>to it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to meet him, see what he can do.

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<v Speaker 1>If he can turn me into a late night pasta day.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, listen, it's been about forty hours since our

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<v Speaker 1>worst week of the season. Talk about stress. It took

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<v Speaker 1>me until yesterday afternoon to really feel like, Okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>can start looking at these numbers again. Unfortunately, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of these numbers were already moving from what we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about on Sunday night in the direction we thought we

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<v Speaker 1>would they would go. Reminder, we went one and four

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<v Speaker 1>last week in our five favorite picks. We won with

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<v Speaker 1>the Atlanta Falcons, we lost with the Chargers, Texans, Lions,

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<v Speaker 1>and Chiefs. Four favorites did us in. Clearly we over corrected.

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<v Speaker 1>What's making me feel worse a lot of favorites that

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<v Speaker 1>I like this week. For the year, we are twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five and twenty through nine weeks with our five favorite picks.

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<v Speaker 1>This is our Tuesday show. We will review the entire slate.

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<v Speaker 1>It is our first Tuesday Show of November.

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<v Speaker 4>No them but can be cold and gray.

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<v Speaker 5>No them that can be surly, With bitter rain upon

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<v Speaker 5>the world and winter coming early. Do you fear the

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<v Speaker 5>force of the wind, the slash of the rain. Go

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<v Speaker 5>face them and fight them. Be savage again. The palms

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<v Speaker 5>of your hands will thicken, the skin of your cheek

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<v Speaker 5>will can You'll grow ragged and weary and wet.

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<v Speaker 4>But you must do the best you can.

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<v Speaker 2>Make sure you check out the Sunday Am show if

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<v Speaker 2>you want.

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<v Speaker 1>The games that will be our official five after we've

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<v Speaker 1>had a chance to review the latest line moves injuries

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<v Speaker 1>this week. That will also include any impact from trades.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't forget. You can get the shows at Sharper Square

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<v Speaker 1>wherever you get your pause. All right, got a Thursday

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<v Speaker 1>night game and I think you and I both have

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<v Speaker 1>a strong opinion on this Las Vegas at Denver the

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<v Speaker 1>Denver Broncos currently eight and a half. The first note

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<v Speaker 1>I made on this game, no hesitation, Give me the Broncos.

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<v Speaker 2>What say you?

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<v Speaker 3>Shaker Chad Simon says, give me the Broncos minus eight

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<v Speaker 3>and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>I am Simon says, Broncos minus eight and a half

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<v Speaker 1>presented by hard Rock Bett.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to play a game.

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<v Speaker 2>Simon says.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a little shocking. I don't know we've ever

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<v Speaker 1>had a Thursday.

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<v Speaker 3>Simon says, I've done them, but it's shocking I would

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<v Speaker 3>take this big of a favorite, honestly divisional game when

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<v Speaker 3>we just talked about how we need to get back

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<v Speaker 3>to our dog ways. It's it's really about the number

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<v Speaker 3>on the spot, and I'm excited to dive more into

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<v Speaker 3>this game as a week as long. Here see where

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<v Speaker 3>this number does go. Like this Raiders team could be

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<v Speaker 3>sellers right right now, and that's why I want to

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<v Speaker 3>get this number out early. People to grab this number

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<v Speaker 3>early because it might just be the Rock Bauer Show.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>They're already traded Jacobe Myers this morning for a pick,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, to the Jaguars. There they're sellers and they

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<v Speaker 3>should be right. I talked to people all the time

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<v Speaker 3>within that organization that game last week, not that they

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<v Speaker 3>dictate it if they're going to retain Pete Carroll, but

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<v Speaker 3>it kind of did like Pete Carroll put his neck

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<v Speaker 3>out there, wanted to get Gino. He needed some wins here,

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<v Speaker 3>and it feels like they're a package dealer with If

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<v Speaker 3>they keep tanking to get a quarterback this year, they'll

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<v Speaker 3>send Pete and Geno packing.

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<v Speaker 4>So I think that was a give it all game

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<v Speaker 4>last week that they blew.

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<v Speaker 3>And we talk all the time situationally, there's certain opportunities

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<v Speaker 3>during the season.

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<v Speaker 4>This feels like a rare opportunity.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you have a Raiders team that played a really

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<v Speaker 3>hard fought game and went to overtime and used up

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<v Speaker 3>the full overtime clock, like they played a ton of football,

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<v Speaker 3>and now they're on a short week on Thursday night football.

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<v Speaker 3>It's pretty easy numbers to find teams in this exact spot.

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<v Speaker 3>Six and twenty five against the spread, so nineteen percent.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, let's check out what's it like for that

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<v Speaker 3>team on the road even worse three and sixteen against

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<v Speaker 3>the spreads exact spot, So you.

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<v Speaker 4>Know, could this be an allier? Could this Raiders team

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<v Speaker 4>pull off the upset? Sure?

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<v Speaker 3>But this is the type of game where the Raiders team,

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<v Speaker 3>like last I thought we had a good spot that

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<v Speaker 3>was to me a good bet that we got unfortunately

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<v Speaker 3>got got by the backup quarterback here.

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<v Speaker 4>This is exact game that Bonnicks just blows out teams like.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a bad Raiders defense that's really bad against quarterbacks.

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<v Speaker 4>Gonna run the football, yeah, on the flip side.

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<v Speaker 3>Defensively, I love this matchup for this Denver team, and

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<v Speaker 3>it get right spot against a quarterback I still don't trust.

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<v Speaker 3>Even going back and rewatching that Raiders game, it just

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<v Speaker 3>felt like the Brock Bowers game, like he had just

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<v Speaker 3>had defenders bouncing off on him making plays.

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<v Speaker 4>Nothing Gino did in that game give me more confidence.

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<v Speaker 3>He's still thrown off his back foot, still happy feet,

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<v Speaker 3>still lock it in on his number one read, and

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<v Speaker 3>that's the only read he's gonna throw it to him.

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<v Speaker 3>Lucky for him, it's Brock Powers, who obviously is a

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<v Speaker 3>game changer. So yeah, this number, I thought it'd be

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<v Speaker 3>getting to ten. It's called the other way. It's gone

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<v Speaker 3>from nine and a half down to eight and a

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<v Speaker 3>half right now. So pros are coming in on this

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<v Speaker 3>Raiders team, but I'm gonna go against him.

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<v Speaker 4>I think they're overreading on a short week.

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<v Speaker 3>I like the spot a lot for this Broncos team

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<v Speaker 3>and a team that typically bo Nicks, he dominates in

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<v Speaker 3>these exact spots.

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<v Speaker 1>O Simon, this might have been. There's probably three games

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<v Speaker 1>that I feel great about right now. It'll it'll change

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<v Speaker 1>over the course of the week.

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<v Speaker 2>This was one of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything about this to me screamed, get right spot for

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<v Speaker 1>the Broncos. A much better defense, a Raiders defense that

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<v Speaker 1>gives up a seventy completion rate in the secondary. He saw,

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<v Speaker 1>We saw how Trevor Lawrence did it against them, kept

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<v Speaker 1>them going down the field. That second half was just

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<v Speaker 1>a track meet. This is a much much better defense.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't forget it.

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<v Speaker 1>In that Jacksonville game, Trayvon Walker left the game because

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<v Speaker 1>he tried to close fist, closed fist punch a guy

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<v Speaker 1>in the face. He was a jack That was a

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<v Speaker 1>significant difference in the game. Like you could see, they

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<v Speaker 1>stopped getting any pass rush on Gino once he went

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<v Speaker 1>out of the game. That's not going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>problem for the Broncos. And they are just too good

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<v Speaker 1>defensively and too well coached offensively. Even bo Nicks can't

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<v Speaker 1>get in the way of this Thursday night a home

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<v Speaker 1>favorites of more than nine sixty one percent against the spread.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you Killer Sports. I thought you would like that

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<v Speaker 1>one because I know you like the trends, but I

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<v Speaker 1>like it too. In this case, I think we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to end up having Denver in our final five and

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<v Speaker 1>as a contest play, and it's going to be a Thursday,

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<v Speaker 1>a rare Thursday play for us.

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<v Speaker 4>That'll be interesting. I definitely have a conversation on.

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<v Speaker 1>Thursday, Atlanta versus Indy. This one's in Berlin, nine thirty am.

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<v Speaker 1>Eastern Indie's a five point favorite. Someone was impressed with

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<v Speaker 1>the Falcons because this one after their loss to the Patriots,

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<v Speaker 1>and after the Colts lost to the Steelers, this moved

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<v Speaker 1>from six and a half to five and a half

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<v Speaker 1>down to five at hard Rock five and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>In a lot of other places Listen, Colts were undone Sunday.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of turnovers specifically by the steel forced by

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<v Speaker 1>the Steelers best playmakers of the best times, pressure from

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<v Speaker 1>Alex Heismith, pressure from TJ.

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<v Speaker 2>Watt. The Colts gave up five sacks and the Falcons, like.

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<v Speaker 1>One in ten one of ten of third downs, played

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<v Speaker 1>opportunistically but not well. They did exactly what they needed

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<v Speaker 1>to do when they got the turnovers from Drake May

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<v Speaker 1>fumbles interceptions. On Sunday we talked about the wise guys,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the Falcons and the wise guys have moved

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<v Speaker 1>it in that direction.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I like the Falcons here.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know. I'm worried about it moved too much.

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<v Speaker 4>I like the Falcons. We talked about it six and

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<v Speaker 4>a half Sunday night. That's where I wanted to be.

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<v Speaker 3>You just I mean, you nailed it. They were one

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<v Speaker 3>and ten on third down. I don't trust benex Man.

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<v Speaker 3>I just cannot trust this kid. It's so inconsistent, it's

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<v Speaker 3>so up and down. And we joked we really did

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<v Speaker 3>steal that one. Like that's why we always say you

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<v Speaker 3>just trust the number. You bet that when you bet

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<v Speaker 3>those games. And I had no idea how Lana was

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<v Speaker 3>gonna get there. I neither would find a way here.

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<v Speaker 3>The way the number has been moving, it's like, are

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<v Speaker 3>they going to find a way? Has the number moved

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<v Speaker 3>too much? Against the Colts team that we talked about,

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<v Speaker 3>like when it's going they're an absolute juggernaut offensively. It

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<v Speaker 3>took five insane turnovers by Daniel Jones for them to

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<v Speaker 3>lose by seven last week, Like can't be understated enough,

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<v Speaker 3>how good that offense is in a game like that,

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<v Speaker 3>they can still put up twenty points, So I know

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<v Speaker 3>it's tough. I want to be on the Falcons. There's

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<v Speaker 3>still one plus six out there if you're able to

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<v Speaker 3>If I have to make a pick right now, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll go that side.

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<v Speaker 4>But this gets below four.

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<v Speaker 3>If this gets to four and a half, four, I

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<v Speaker 3>might have to take a position on the Colts. It's

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<v Speaker 3>just International games always is going to lean towards the favorites. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and I get what the pros are doing here. Like

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<v Speaker 3>I said, that's such a key number of betting, the

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<v Speaker 3>six down. But hard Rock they're showing us they've already

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<v Speaker 3>been hit by the pros. They're their first book I've

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<v Speaker 3>seen get the five. So yeah, it's it's slowly becoming

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<v Speaker 3>a cold sliine. I'm not gonna touch it yet until

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<v Speaker 3>it cross. Is another key number. If you obviously listened

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<v Speaker 3>to Shirt Sunday Night, or you can get it right now,

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<v Speaker 3>get the six of you say able to Atlanta that

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<v Speaker 3>at that number feels right?

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<v Speaker 4>But man, we joke.

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<v Speaker 3>I went back and watched that Atlanta game again because

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<v Speaker 3>it's just like, how did we get away with that?

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<v Speaker 3>One that was like you, I saw that, said, I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't realize they were only one for ten and third downs.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, got away with it because of Drake London. That

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<v Speaker 2>was it. Just Drake London.

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<v Speaker 4>Drake London. Yeah, that was it.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's also why we bet it, Like knowing he

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<v Speaker 1>was going to be back is the reason why we

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to bet that game. He's the best asset that

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Pennix has. I'm with you, like, I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to other than Caleb Williams rust to judgment on any

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<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks in their second year. And I always loved Michael

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<v Speaker 1>Pennox going back to his EU days, but he's way

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<v Speaker 1>inconsistent and making bad decisions.

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<v Speaker 4>He's a rookie saying he's a rookie. Yeah, so second year.

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<v Speaker 2>Rookie kind of barely played last year.

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<v Speaker 1>So right, uh, all right, we'll put a pin in

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<v Speaker 1>that one because five is kind of a dead number.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't I don't like. That's why I was wishy washing.

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't really get a read at that number because.

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<v Speaker 4>That much like the pros hit it that hard in

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<v Speaker 4>a national game.

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<v Speaker 3>So, like you said, it's it's very clear what position

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<v Speaker 3>the professionals.

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<v Speaker 2>Are on hard rock, a sneaky sharp book.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they're always ahead of the line. Movement's pretty well.

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<v Speaker 2>It's pretty interesting. Good indicator.

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<v Speaker 5>Super Bowl greens that glowed in the summer sunshine, flicker

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<v Speaker 5>and fade, and the autumn shadows and hopes that were

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<v Speaker 5>high in the heat of September and will and die

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<v Speaker 5>in the chill of November.

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<v Speaker 1>Buffalo at Miami, Miami is a nine and a half

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<v Speaker 1>point dog at home.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, Like.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's it's you gotta play Miami, especially coming

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<v Speaker 1>off of that game. But in my head it's Buffalo

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<v Speaker 1>or nothing like like like.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll throw I know it's not that down.

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<v Speaker 3>Then if you're gonna do something like that, get them

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<v Speaker 3>to two and a half, like take him in a

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<v Speaker 3>seven point teaser or something.

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<v Speaker 1>But here's the flip side. Hold on, let me interrupt

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<v Speaker 1>you for one second, cause here's the flip side. We

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<v Speaker 1>got so burned by my favorites last week, it almost

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<v Speaker 1>makes sense that we would have to lean into Miami here.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's just it's also a little bit of an

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<v Speaker 3>inflated line. In my opinion, it's like the Bills minus

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<v Speaker 3>nine and a half. They can't stop the run. They're

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<v Speaker 3>going against it one of the best run blocking scheme

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<v Speaker 3>teams in all of football.

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<v Speaker 4>And I don't know. It's like, like I was talking

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<v Speaker 4>to the guy the other day.

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<v Speaker 3>My dream scenario again these trades never happened, would be

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<v Speaker 3>for a guy like a Chan to go to the Chiefs,

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<v Speaker 3>like they had a Jamal Charles type in the Chiefs

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<v Speaker 3>offense in a lifetime.

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<v Speaker 4>That's like the perfect matchup.

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<v Speaker 3>But I talk to people on AAM and they're like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>we're looking for a first and a second.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like, no one's gonna trade you that for this guy.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so they highly value Chan and this feels like

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<v Speaker 3>an eight Chan game. And you know the Bills the

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<v Speaker 3>last time they played them, that was when it was

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<v Speaker 3>all going really negative for that Miami team and Miami.

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<v Speaker 4>Back door covered it whatever it was.

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<v Speaker 3>But just looking at this line, you're right, like, we

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<v Speaker 3>know we're supposed to bet Miami. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna force it in to be one of my

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<v Speaker 3>favorite bets, but it's like a nine and a.

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<v Speaker 4>Half some books touch ten.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll take Miami, but god, it's I just it's hard

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<v Speaker 3>to trust Miami. They're just so dysfunctional right now, it's

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<v Speaker 3>all crashing down. So it was like last week against

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<v Speaker 3>the Ravens. They had all these opportunities. They out played

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<v Speaker 3>the Ravens in the first half, and they just kept

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<v Speaker 3>shoot themselves in the foot self inflicted wounds, and then

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<v Speaker 3>the second half they just couldn't do a single thing.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm going to be it's hard to trust this

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<v Speaker 3>Miami team, but I gotta expect I'll extended rest playing

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<v Speaker 3>against the Bills team come off a high emotional win

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<v Speaker 3>this past Sunday, now going on the road to play

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<v Speaker 3>Miami here just you know, a point or two inflated line.

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<v Speaker 3>Once again, not going to force it in, but I

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<v Speaker 3>do have a model at seven and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think what's interesting here that we got to

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<v Speaker 1>be cognizant of for today at least, is who's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a seller.

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<v Speaker 2>We just talked about it with the Raiders.

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<v Speaker 1>We saw the Miami has already traded Jalen Phillips to

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<v Speaker 1>the Eagles, so who else are they going to get

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<v Speaker 1>rid of? But by the end of the day, will

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<v Speaker 1>Jalen Waddle be on the Miami Dolphins? And if so,

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<v Speaker 1>with that impact our thinking about betting the Dolphins as

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<v Speaker 1>huge underdogs.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you're right.

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<v Speaker 1>The Dolphins are the right side here, they're the play.

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<v Speaker 1>But I kind of want to wait until I know

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more about who's going to be playing.

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<v Speaker 4>And we don't really want to do it again.

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<v Speaker 3>There's tens out there people, you can grab the tens

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<v Speaker 3>if you want, But it's like, I don't want to.

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<v Speaker 2>Bet the Dolphins. Yeah, you know who else?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to bet the Chicago Bears a minus

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<v Speaker 1>three and a half against the New York Football Giants.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I love Ben Johnson.

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<v Speaker 4>I love him.

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<v Speaker 3>Bet your bottom dollar you lose the Blues and Chicago chicag.

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<v Speaker 1>The other day in the Chicago text chain that there

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<v Speaker 1>was a great sort of meme that I got sent.

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<v Speaker 1>It said, at the top is it's so over the

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<v Speaker 1>bottom that to the right is we're so back. To

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<v Speaker 1>the bottom is it's over, And to the left is

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<v Speaker 1>we're back. Like that's the life cycle of a Bears

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<v Speaker 1>fan and we lived it all on Sunday. Ben Johnson,

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<v Speaker 1>to me is the saving grace. Every time I watch

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<v Speaker 1>a Ben Johnson video postgame celebration, thrilled, he'll drop in.

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<v Speaker 1>He just drops in we got some stuff to work on.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to talk about that tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>Today we are going to celebrate our win because it's

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<v Speaker 1>hard to win in the National Football League, and this

0:19:16.080 --> 0:19:21.680
<v Speaker 1>team believes in him. Whether or not Caleb can do it,

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<v Speaker 1>get us to the super Bowl, by the way, Simon,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's how I think about it doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 2>I love Ben Johnson. Here's my problem. Let me take

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<v Speaker 2>you through this game.

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<v Speaker 1>This defense is so bad, like if not for the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals defense being so bad, the Bears do not win

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<v Speaker 1>that game. And this is the kind of defense that

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<v Speaker 1>Jackson Dart can get healthy against. Right, he can scamper

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<v Speaker 1>all over this defense. The secondary gives up a seventy

0:19:52.480 --> 0:19:54.960
<v Speaker 1>or the team gives up a seventy one percent completion rate,

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<v Speaker 1>tie with the Raiders for the worst in the league.

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<v Speaker 1>They're especially bad at under erneath passes, Like if you

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<v Speaker 1>look back at the Bear schedule, they've basically spent most

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<v Speaker 1>of the year making mediocre quarterbacks look really really good

0:20:13.960 --> 0:20:16.840
<v Speaker 1>and they're only wins by margin this year are the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys big blowout. A lot of turnovers from the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>and the Saints, which if the Saints weren't turning the

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<v Speaker 1>ball over that game is much much closer. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>kind of leading Giants in three and a half.

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<v Speaker 3>Here, Yeah, And that's that's why they're goin to just

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<v Speaker 3>make it funny little bit for the Super Bowl talk,

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<v Speaker 3>because it's like, you guys only beat horrible, terrible teams, right,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's reflected this year. And that's why you should

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<v Speaker 3>be excited about your head coach because that's your coach

0:20:42.800 --> 0:20:47.840
<v Speaker 3>beating the difference because bad teams don't beat bad teams, right, Like,

0:20:47.880 --> 0:20:50.320
<v Speaker 3>at least you're above bad teams at this point where

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<v Speaker 3>you're not dropping games you should be winning. So the

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<v Speaker 3>Giants to me are a bad team and they're one

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<v Speaker 3>of the worst run defenses in all football. This is

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<v Speaker 3>the exact type of team you want to face if

0:20:59.880 --> 0:21:03.160
<v Speaker 3>you or the Bears. But you're right, the line makes

0:21:03.160 --> 0:21:05.760
<v Speaker 3>me want to take the Giants. You don't have the

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<v Speaker 3>defense to be catching three and a half, so it's

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<v Speaker 3>another game you can easily get burned, like just like

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<v Speaker 3>the Dolphins. But it feels like got to get back

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<v Speaker 3>to old ways. Supposed to bet the Bears here, I

0:21:17.560 --> 0:21:20.000
<v Speaker 3>mean at the Giants now with the hook if it

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<v Speaker 3>was minus three, minus two and a half. I could

0:21:22.119 --> 0:21:25.200
<v Speaker 3>have talked us into taking this Bear side just because

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<v Speaker 3>I think they'll be able to move the ball anytime

0:21:27.000 --> 0:21:29.479
<v Speaker 3>they won against the Giants. But like you said, Dart's

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<v Speaker 3>gonna have a ton of opportunities to push the ball

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<v Speaker 3>downfield and use his legs against this really suspect Bears team.

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<v Speaker 3>That didn't you guys just lose another when you're another

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<v Speaker 3>pass rusher.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so it's just bad. You guys are just having

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<v Speaker 4>bad luck.

0:21:43.480 --> 0:21:45.400
<v Speaker 3>You're already a bad defense and you've been hit by

0:21:45.440 --> 0:21:50.600
<v Speaker 3>a brutal injury bug. So yeah, it's anytime your defense

0:21:50.640 --> 0:21:53.080
<v Speaker 3>gives a forty two points to Joe Flacco. I know

0:21:53.119 --> 0:21:55.080
<v Speaker 3>it's lazy talk to say, yeah, there are a bad defense.

0:21:55.119 --> 0:21:57.240
<v Speaker 3>We gotta fade them here with Dart, But it's just

0:21:57.359 --> 0:21:59.360
<v Speaker 3>to be just to bring it back to the number.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what we're trying to say here. It's that's that's

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<v Speaker 3>the point.

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<v Speaker 4>Sing.

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<v Speaker 3>Your defense is so bad, I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 3>can carry a minus three and a half favorite right now.

0:22:06.800 --> 0:22:09.359
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, plus three and a half. I guess I

0:22:09.359 --> 0:22:10.760
<v Speaker 3>got to do the Giants, but I don't feel great

0:22:10.760 --> 0:22:13.639
<v Speaker 3>about it. They just no scataboo all the injuries. It

0:22:13.760 --> 0:22:15.960
<v Speaker 3>just it's really catch it up to that offense in

0:22:15.960 --> 0:22:18.400
<v Speaker 3>the last two weeks, they've just not looked the same now.

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<v Speaker 1>But look, to me, there's a similarity here to the

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<v Speaker 1>Commanders and.

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<v Speaker 2>How they played.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bears and their ability to use Jayden Daniels and

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<v Speaker 1>have them split the defense and run up the middle

0:22:31.400 --> 0:22:35.320
<v Speaker 1>sort of these these design draws and also if the

0:22:35.359 --> 0:22:38.600
<v Speaker 1>pass rush gets too far upfield, he finds a hole

0:22:38.640 --> 0:22:41.200
<v Speaker 1>through the middle. Like that's what Jackson Dart is really

0:22:41.200 --> 0:22:43.440
<v Speaker 1>good at and he's been really.

0:22:43.200 --> 0:22:44.200
<v Speaker 2>Really accurate this year.

0:22:44.280 --> 0:22:48.840
<v Speaker 1>So I think there's so much room underneath for the

0:22:48.960 --> 0:22:54.040
<v Speaker 1>Giants to find receivers that they basically just have possession receivers.

0:22:53.640 --> 0:22:55.399
<v Speaker 2>You know. So I worry.

0:22:55.520 --> 0:22:56.760
<v Speaker 1>I worry, and that's why I want to be on

0:22:56.800 --> 0:23:02.080
<v Speaker 1>the Giants. New Orleans at the Carolina Panthers, Panthers and

0:23:02.160 --> 0:23:05.080
<v Speaker 1>minus five. You mentioned the Panthers on Sunday en it

0:23:05.080 --> 0:23:07.760
<v Speaker 1>as a game you liked. We've all thankfully moved on

0:23:07.920 --> 0:23:14.639
<v Speaker 1>from the Saints are competitive phase of the season we've entered.

0:23:16.359 --> 0:23:23.600
<v Speaker 1>We love the Panthers phase of the season. We know

0:23:23.720 --> 0:23:25.080
<v Speaker 1>the Panthers are going to want to run the ball

0:23:25.119 --> 0:23:28.760
<v Speaker 1>with Rico Daudell. It's how they have won big games

0:23:29.119 --> 0:23:32.239
<v Speaker 1>on the road this year, and we know they are

0:23:32.240 --> 0:23:38.159
<v Speaker 1>better at home. Saints d bottom five in the league

0:23:38.240 --> 0:23:41.679
<v Speaker 1>is a rush defense, like across every metric, right, so

0:23:42.200 --> 0:23:46.600
<v Speaker 1>there is a clear advantage. I will say this number

0:23:46.680 --> 0:23:51.080
<v Speaker 1>is flirting with a Saints line. I'm not saying it is,

0:23:51.640 --> 0:23:53.360
<v Speaker 1>but I do think it's flirting with it A five

0:23:53.400 --> 0:23:54.919
<v Speaker 1>and a half. It definitely was, which is why it's

0:23:54.960 --> 0:23:56.880
<v Speaker 1>moved to five. That's what it was on Sunday five

0:23:56.920 --> 0:24:00.240
<v Speaker 1>and a half. But that's the one thing that me

0:24:00.280 --> 0:24:02.880
<v Speaker 1>nervous is that we so love the Saints and we've

0:24:02.880 --> 0:24:07.159
<v Speaker 1>been getting burned by favorites this past week. Are we

0:24:07.240 --> 0:24:08.480
<v Speaker 1>clouded right now?

0:24:09.440 --> 0:24:09.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:24:09.640 --> 0:24:12.639
<v Speaker 3>And it's a Carolina team that we already love, coming

0:24:12.640 --> 0:24:15.159
<v Speaker 3>off the biggest win they've had as a franchise and

0:24:16.320 --> 0:24:19.120
<v Speaker 3>since Cam Newton, is that fair to say, like this

0:24:19.200 --> 0:24:23.320
<v Speaker 3>is this win put them to five wins, five and

0:24:23.440 --> 0:24:26.800
<v Speaker 3>four in the NFC outside chance in a wildcard. They're

0:24:26.800 --> 0:24:29.360
<v Speaker 3>like the Bears, Like it's just two teams that need

0:24:29.400 --> 0:24:32.800
<v Speaker 3>desperately to win these games. And anytime you can steal

0:24:32.800 --> 0:24:34.400
<v Speaker 3>a game like that is Caroline. Like we said, Bryce

0:24:34.400 --> 0:24:37.520
<v Speaker 3>Seong through for one hundred yards. I don't know if

0:24:37.520 --> 0:24:40.959
<v Speaker 3>we're buying them at their peak. Like I think that

0:24:41.200 --> 0:24:43.400
<v Speaker 3>they were a good team that stole that game last week.

0:24:43.400 --> 0:24:45.680
<v Speaker 3>Like I saw some crazy stats I didn't even realize.

0:24:45.680 --> 0:24:47.960
<v Speaker 3>I wish I had mentioned on Sunday. They did not

0:24:48.080 --> 0:24:51.119
<v Speaker 3>punt Green Bay in that game. They didn't punt the

0:24:51.280 --> 0:24:53.879
<v Speaker 3>entire game. That's so crazy. When you go back and

0:24:53.880 --> 0:24:57.320
<v Speaker 3>rewatch it, it's like they had their opportunities. Carolina is just

0:24:57.359 --> 0:25:01.359
<v Speaker 3>a good team and they're well coached. Shockingly so, Tyler

0:25:01.400 --> 0:25:04.119
<v Speaker 3>Shuck is terrible. Like I watched a lot of that

0:25:04.240 --> 0:25:07.400
<v Speaker 3>Rams game. There's no way he gives him a better

0:25:07.520 --> 0:25:10.960
<v Speaker 3>chance than Spencer Rattler. And you know that's just a

0:25:11.040 --> 0:25:15.399
<v Speaker 3>draft pick you make because he never played really in college,

0:25:15.440 --> 0:25:17.200
<v Speaker 3>and when he did play, you saw a lot of big,

0:25:17.440 --> 0:25:19.640
<v Speaker 3>big time ARNT talent. But I think he's like an

0:25:19.640 --> 0:25:21.680
<v Speaker 3>old man at this point. He's already like twenty five

0:25:21.760 --> 0:25:25.200
<v Speaker 3>or twenty six, which is old in football years, and he's.

0:25:24.960 --> 0:25:26.520
<v Speaker 4>Got happy feet.

0:25:26.800 --> 0:25:29.800
<v Speaker 3>I just really, I just like you, I wanted to

0:25:29.840 --> 0:25:32.040
<v Speaker 3>avoid this game because it's like I am I overvaluing this.

0:25:32.119 --> 0:25:35.439
<v Speaker 3>My model has it at seven, so at least I'm

0:25:35.440 --> 0:25:38.000
<v Speaker 3>getting a good number must when my computer thinks when

0:25:38.080 --> 0:25:40.720
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, like you, the alarm bells are ringing here,

0:25:41.000 --> 0:25:44.600
<v Speaker 3>Am I overvaluing this team? But I like this match

0:25:44.640 --> 0:25:46.439
<v Speaker 3>for the Panthers, and I just don't see how New

0:25:46.520 --> 0:25:49.680
<v Speaker 3>Orleans Saints' offense can keep up with this Panthers team

0:25:49.680 --> 0:25:52.200
<v Speaker 3>where this is a get right game for them, because

0:25:52.280 --> 0:25:54.479
<v Speaker 3>like you said, the Saints struggle against the run. That

0:25:54.600 --> 0:25:56.800
<v Speaker 3>just sets up Bryce Young to push the ball downfield

0:25:56.840 --> 0:25:59.560
<v Speaker 3>once those safeties drop in. That's what he's been so

0:25:59.600 --> 0:26:02.000
<v Speaker 3>great at this year is finally there's open windows downfield.

0:26:03.200 --> 0:26:06.120
<v Speaker 3>I like dismetch a lot for the Panthers. So interesting

0:26:06.160 --> 0:26:09.040
<v Speaker 3>line movement a couple of books. Yeah, popped minus four

0:26:09.040 --> 0:26:11.760
<v Speaker 3>and a half on the Panthers. So like Chad's saying,

0:26:12.119 --> 0:26:15.359
<v Speaker 3>professionals are coming on the Saints, not gonna rush in

0:26:15.400 --> 0:26:16.360
<v Speaker 3>that take on minus five.

0:26:16.400 --> 0:26:18.239
<v Speaker 4>It's not that big of a key number. So if

0:26:18.359 --> 0:26:19.600
<v Speaker 4>moves the four and a half, I'll grab it.

0:26:19.640 --> 0:26:21.040
<v Speaker 3>If it goes back up to five and a half

0:26:21.040 --> 0:26:23.240
<v Speaker 3>in its trending towards six, I'll come in and grab

0:26:23.240 --> 0:26:25.000
<v Speaker 3>the five and a half. So yeah, no bet for

0:26:25.080 --> 0:26:26.680
<v Speaker 3>me yet on this game. Just watching the line movement,

0:26:26.680 --> 0:26:27.400
<v Speaker 3>see where it goes.

0:26:27.920 --> 0:26:34.040
<v Speaker 1>Bryce Young consistently is becoming one of those players who

0:26:34.080 --> 0:26:37.879
<v Speaker 1>you love to have when the Panthers are an underdog.

0:26:38.400 --> 0:26:41.560
<v Speaker 1>He's a gamer, and like his athleticism is showing shining through.

0:26:41.600 --> 0:26:44.000
<v Speaker 1>We start to see it last year, it's carried over

0:26:44.000 --> 0:26:46.160
<v Speaker 1>into this year. He keeps his head up when he's

0:26:46.200 --> 0:26:49.320
<v Speaker 1>running around the pocket, he's looking down field. He's making

0:26:49.400 --> 0:26:53.439
<v Speaker 1>accurate throws like when he is scrambling and challenged and

0:26:53.600 --> 0:26:56.640
<v Speaker 1>has to be getting the ball downfield. That's when he's

0:26:56.640 --> 0:27:00.360
<v Speaker 1>at his best. You saw him in the final drive, right,

0:27:00.920 --> 0:27:03.920
<v Speaker 1>He made some great passes one hundred yards, but I

0:27:03.960 --> 0:27:06.119
<v Speaker 1>think he had like twenty of them in that final

0:27:06.200 --> 0:27:09.840
<v Speaker 1>drive because he just he's becoming a gamer. He's becoming

0:27:09.840 --> 0:27:13.439
<v Speaker 1>a quarterback you can lean into win they're underdogs.

0:27:14.000 --> 0:27:15.639
<v Speaker 4>Well, he just he didn't have it, honestly, Like he

0:27:15.720 --> 0:27:17.400
<v Speaker 4>threw a terrible back of the end.

0:27:17.320 --> 0:27:20.600
<v Speaker 2>Zone pick that could have killed the game for them.

0:27:20.720 --> 0:27:22.280
<v Speaker 4>It should have. Like I said, I can't believe we

0:27:22.320 --> 0:27:22.880
<v Speaker 4>stole that game.

0:27:22.880 --> 0:27:24.800
<v Speaker 3>He was eleven of twenty four one hundred yards and

0:27:24.840 --> 0:27:26.840
<v Speaker 3>a pick in the red zone. And that's just how

0:27:26.880 --> 0:27:30.400
<v Speaker 3>dominant Rikodato on this running attack is right now. So

0:27:30.840 --> 0:27:32.240
<v Speaker 3>that's what I really feel like both of us, we

0:27:32.280 --> 0:27:34.440
<v Speaker 3>think he'll bounce back here with Bryce Young in this game.

0:27:34.480 --> 0:27:37.280
<v Speaker 3>But it's just that running attack I feel will always

0:27:37.320 --> 0:27:39.679
<v Speaker 3>keep us above Border Carolina this year. And like we

0:27:39.800 --> 0:27:42.240
<v Speaker 3>keep saying, they're a sneaky seventh seed if they can

0:27:42.280 --> 0:27:45.080
<v Speaker 3>get there, they have the offense. We just I think

0:27:45.080 --> 0:27:47.000
<v Speaker 3>we both agree they do not have the defense right

0:27:47.000 --> 0:27:48.040
<v Speaker 3>now to be a playoff team.

0:27:48.720 --> 0:27:54.199
<v Speaker 1>Is Tyler Schuck one season away from eating pasta alone

0:27:54.280 --> 0:27:57.280
<v Speaker 1>in his house at four am?

0:27:57.320 --> 0:28:00.520
<v Speaker 2>Just stress eating fuy enough?

0:28:00.520 --> 0:28:02.560
<v Speaker 4>I mean some people have called that living the dream.

0:28:02.600 --> 0:28:06.560
<v Speaker 1>You call your nightmare, dude, that the only thing I'm

0:28:06.560 --> 0:28:07.720
<v Speaker 1>doing at four AMSPN.

0:28:07.880 --> 0:28:08.320
<v Speaker 2>That's it.

0:28:09.119 --> 0:28:12.040
<v Speaker 1>Cleveland at the New York Jets, The New York Jets,

0:28:12.040 --> 0:28:15.000
<v Speaker 1>this lumbers move from one and a half to Simon, Hello,

0:28:15.320 --> 0:28:16.760
<v Speaker 1>they're coming off a bye.

0:28:17.480 --> 0:28:19.480
<v Speaker 2>Are the New York Jets a juggernaut?

0:28:19.840 --> 0:28:27.200
<v Speaker 1>And look if if it's a big if they can

0:28:27.240 --> 0:28:31.719
<v Speaker 1>be halfway competent. I like the Jets here because I

0:28:31.760 --> 0:28:37.240
<v Speaker 1>do think the Cleveland Browns offensively, they just cannot do anything.

0:28:37.280 --> 0:28:40.160
<v Speaker 1>They do not have a professional quarterback in the room

0:28:40.240 --> 0:28:40.680
<v Speaker 1>right now.

0:28:41.120 --> 0:28:44.800
<v Speaker 2>If they did, they would be playing him. So to me,

0:28:45.560 --> 0:28:48.760
<v Speaker 2>this is really about the Jets. You had a lot

0:28:48.800 --> 0:28:49.400
<v Speaker 2>of thoughts on this.

0:28:49.440 --> 0:28:51.000
<v Speaker 1>We talked about this before we came on the air

0:28:51.040 --> 0:28:55.920
<v Speaker 1>for a minute about this number, So share what you're thinking.

0:28:56.800 --> 0:28:58.280
<v Speaker 4>I know, I hate it. I love it. People.

0:28:58.360 --> 0:29:00.480
<v Speaker 3>This is almost why Simon says about like said, hard

0:29:00.560 --> 0:29:01.440
<v Speaker 3>Rocks already moved.

0:29:01.920 --> 0:29:03.360
<v Speaker 4>There's a couple of one and a half's out there.

0:29:03.200 --> 0:29:07.880
<v Speaker 3>On the Jets you can still get. We'll chuck real quick,

0:29:07.920 --> 0:29:09.520
<v Speaker 3>but yeah, there's still they're still out there at two

0:29:09.520 --> 0:29:12.000
<v Speaker 3>of the really big public books, so you can still

0:29:12.000 --> 0:29:13.479
<v Speaker 3>get the one and a half if you can find it.

0:29:13.520 --> 0:29:17.280
<v Speaker 3>But this is an It's another game where it was

0:29:17.360 --> 0:29:19.800
<v Speaker 3>just like our stupid rationale are taking them with Cincy.

0:29:21.240 --> 0:29:23.320
<v Speaker 3>There's they're gonna steal games, They're gonna win games. This

0:29:23.400 --> 0:29:25.560
<v Speaker 3>Jets team, They's just it's just the way football is.

0:29:26.200 --> 0:29:30.120
<v Speaker 3>And you look at this matchup, like we talked about,

0:29:30.480 --> 0:29:34.560
<v Speaker 3>I agree, it's terrifying to think of that front of

0:29:34.600 --> 0:29:37.320
<v Speaker 3>this Bengals team playing against this Jets team.

0:29:37.360 --> 0:29:39.440
<v Speaker 4>But my hope, which.

0:29:39.280 --> 0:29:41.440
<v Speaker 3>Again I've been suckering into it before, is that justin

0:29:41.480 --> 0:29:43.800
<v Speaker 3>fields and this offense found something against the Bengals to

0:29:43.800 --> 0:29:46.200
<v Speaker 3>take into that bye week and use it in this

0:29:46.240 --> 0:29:49.440
<v Speaker 3>type of matchup, Like you have a quarterback that can

0:29:49.560 --> 0:29:52.560
<v Speaker 3>use his legs against Miles Garrett. That's the only cryptonite

0:29:52.600 --> 0:29:55.320
<v Speaker 3>Miles Garrett has. If you just run away from him

0:29:55.400 --> 0:29:57.280
<v Speaker 3>and he can't catch you, that's the only way you

0:29:57.280 --> 0:29:58.560
<v Speaker 3>could stop. And there's no one on their team that

0:29:58.560 --> 0:30:02.200
<v Speaker 3>can block Miles Garrett. There's nothing they can do blocking wise,

0:30:02.240 --> 0:30:04.959
<v Speaker 3>but scheme wise, you can use your quarterback an outside

0:30:04.960 --> 0:30:06.600
<v Speaker 3>the pocket and run away from them with the running

0:30:06.640 --> 0:30:09.160
<v Speaker 3>back that I like the way this Jets team can

0:30:09.200 --> 0:30:11.600
<v Speaker 3>attack this Browns offense. And we always talk about this

0:30:11.640 --> 0:30:15.320
<v Speaker 3>Browns team is different away from home. Off the grass,

0:30:15.360 --> 0:30:18.360
<v Speaker 3>like we always say, it's a fast field. People forget medlife.

0:30:18.360 --> 0:30:20.280
<v Speaker 3>I mean they don't forget we all know because it

0:30:20.280 --> 0:30:23.120
<v Speaker 3>takes people's achilles and knees every week. It's a turf field,

0:30:23.280 --> 0:30:26.560
<v Speaker 3>so it's a fast field, which again benefits this Jets

0:30:26.560 --> 0:30:30.360
<v Speaker 3>team in a matchup where I just can't get over

0:30:30.400 --> 0:30:33.280
<v Speaker 3>this kid Gabriel, Like, I am shocked they didn't announce

0:30:33.360 --> 0:30:35.160
<v Speaker 3>Sanders was gonna be the start of this week. So

0:30:36.240 --> 0:30:38.800
<v Speaker 3>everything is just so negative behind that Browns team behind

0:30:38.800 --> 0:30:42.520
<v Speaker 3>closed doors, and I mean I know they're coming off

0:30:42.560 --> 0:30:43.440
<v Speaker 3>a bye week as well.

0:30:44.440 --> 0:30:46.520
<v Speaker 4>I just can't. I can't see it with this kid, Gabriel.

0:30:46.560 --> 0:30:47.720
<v Speaker 4>I know you're in the same boat as me.

0:30:47.760 --> 0:30:51.440
<v Speaker 3>Like I've watched so much of him play now I

0:30:51.600 --> 0:30:54.040
<v Speaker 3>forever feel so lucky. We did take that Miami spot

0:30:54.120 --> 0:30:56.640
<v Speaker 3>where that Cleveland team was obviously the right choice there,

0:30:56.680 --> 0:30:58.960
<v Speaker 3>and he threw the ball five times like that's how

0:30:59.000 --> 0:31:01.400
<v Speaker 3>they have to win. So could they get it this

0:31:01.560 --> 0:31:03.680
<v Speaker 3>against this Jets team? Of course, we know the Jets.

0:31:04.200 --> 0:31:06.600
<v Speaker 3>They're and also a team like our sellers. They couldn't

0:31:06.640 --> 0:31:08.440
<v Speaker 3>move Breest Hall, which would be a big deal, right,

0:31:08.480 --> 0:31:11.080
<v Speaker 3>He's been are going to be their best offensive piece

0:31:11.120 --> 0:31:14.040
<v Speaker 3>this season run the ball. So I'm not diving all

0:31:14.080 --> 0:31:15.840
<v Speaker 3>in on Jets here yet, but I do want people

0:31:15.840 --> 0:31:17.680
<v Speaker 3>to grab the one and a half if possible, because

0:31:17.840 --> 0:31:20.120
<v Speaker 3>I think that's the Pros are gonna keep coming in.

0:31:20.160 --> 0:31:21.520
<v Speaker 3>I could easily see this again to two and a

0:31:21.560 --> 0:31:23.640
<v Speaker 3>half three by kickoff, and if you don't take a

0:31:23.640 --> 0:31:26.080
<v Speaker 3>position at that point. If it's three, sure you could

0:31:26.080 --> 0:31:28.760
<v Speaker 3>take the Browns. But it mist one one, it's one

0:31:28.760 --> 0:31:29.320
<v Speaker 3>and a half.

0:31:29.560 --> 0:31:31.720
<v Speaker 4>This is the Jets number. I'd grab it before it moved.

0:31:31.880 --> 0:31:33.840
<v Speaker 1>The other thing I would add one of the reasons

0:31:33.840 --> 0:31:36.160
<v Speaker 1>why we liked New England against the Browns a few

0:31:36.200 --> 0:31:38.520
<v Speaker 1>weeks ago, other than the fact it was a Browns

0:31:38.520 --> 0:31:42.000
<v Speaker 1>defense on the road, the brown secondary is susceptible to

0:31:42.040 --> 0:31:46.240
<v Speaker 1>big plays. And the one thing that the Jets have

0:31:46.400 --> 0:31:51.240
<v Speaker 1>been able to do this year occasionally, and Justin Fields

0:31:51.240 --> 0:31:53.440
<v Speaker 1>showed a little bit of this the other last week

0:31:53.520 --> 0:31:57.240
<v Speaker 1>or two weeks ago, is throwing the ball deep.

0:31:57.440 --> 0:31:59.600
<v Speaker 2>And any kind of explosive play.

0:31:59.680 --> 0:32:04.960
<v Speaker 1>So to me, there is one little offensive advantage, a creak,

0:32:05.680 --> 0:32:11.719
<v Speaker 1>sneak offensive advantage for the Jets in this game. We

0:32:11.760 --> 0:32:13.360
<v Speaker 1>talked about it more than I thought we would, like

0:32:13.640 --> 0:32:14.920
<v Speaker 1>I thought I was gonna want to be on the

0:32:15.000 --> 0:32:17.800
<v Speaker 1>Jets and you're gonna be like, come on, like, let's

0:32:17.840 --> 0:32:18.600
<v Speaker 1>not be silly here.

0:32:18.880 --> 0:32:20.600
<v Speaker 2>But so I'm glad an agreement on that.

0:32:21.360 --> 0:32:22.880
<v Speaker 1>The one thing that does scare me is I don't

0:32:22.880 --> 0:32:24.600
<v Speaker 1>know who's like, who are they gonna get rid of,

0:32:25.200 --> 0:32:28.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, by the end of today.

0:32:28.120 --> 0:32:28.800
<v Speaker 4>I just don't know.

0:32:29.560 --> 0:32:32.280
<v Speaker 1>Jacksonville is Houston. Houston is a one point favorite. The

0:32:32.360 --> 0:32:37.640
<v Speaker 1>number is moved in favor of Jacksonville. I'm not surprised.

0:32:37.680 --> 0:32:39.880
<v Speaker 1>I was actually surprised that the number was at one

0:32:39.880 --> 0:32:44.480
<v Speaker 1>and a half on Sunday night and by yesterday night.

0:32:44.560 --> 0:32:47.600
<v Speaker 1>By last night, it's still had it moved to one.

0:32:47.760 --> 0:32:49.880
<v Speaker 1>It finally moved to one this morning, at least.

0:32:49.680 --> 0:32:52.040
<v Speaker 2>At hard Rock. Like c. J.

0:32:52.160 --> 0:32:56.040
<v Speaker 1>Stroud is in the concussion protocol, the Jags D is

0:32:56.080 --> 0:32:59.720
<v Speaker 1>not the Broncos D that Houston just played it yet and.

0:33:00.120 --> 0:33:01.719
<v Speaker 2>The Texans deep, I don't know.

0:33:02.080 --> 0:33:06.840
<v Speaker 1>It may literally make Trevor Lawrence's head spin. It might

0:33:06.880 --> 0:33:09.960
<v Speaker 1>be more than he can handle. So it's tough to

0:33:10.080 --> 0:33:13.320
<v Speaker 1>bet on the team that is playing with its backup

0:33:13.400 --> 0:33:17.719
<v Speaker 1>quarterback as a favorite. If I could get Houston as

0:33:17.760 --> 0:33:20.760
<v Speaker 1>an underdog at some point, I'd be more interested.

0:33:21.760 --> 0:33:23.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I hate I hate it because it's we know

0:33:23.600 --> 0:33:25.640
<v Speaker 3>we're supposed to bet Houston. I think we're both just

0:33:25.760 --> 0:33:29.480
<v Speaker 3>so burned by watching three quarters of Davis Mills just

0:33:29.560 --> 0:33:30.280
<v Speaker 3>do nothing.

0:33:31.920 --> 0:33:34.880
<v Speaker 1>But that Roncos defense is so good like the Jags defense.

0:33:35.040 --> 0:33:39.080
<v Speaker 1>I know, they just made Geno Smith look like a hero.

0:33:39.400 --> 0:33:43.040
<v Speaker 1>He scored twenty nine points against them, like they scored

0:33:43.240 --> 0:33:45.719
<v Speaker 1>god knows how many points in the second half. So

0:33:47.280 --> 0:33:51.480
<v Speaker 1>it's not the same defense, and he's got a week

0:33:51.600 --> 0:33:54.800
<v Speaker 1>to figure it out. He's not coming in cold at

0:33:54.800 --> 0:33:56.000
<v Speaker 1>the end of the second in the middle of the

0:33:56.040 --> 0:33:56.520
<v Speaker 1>second quarter.

0:33:56.560 --> 0:33:59.440
<v Speaker 3>And that's the biggest deal is he hasn't prepared or

0:33:59.480 --> 0:34:04.320
<v Speaker 3>practice with the ones you know all year. Definitely wasn't

0:34:04.360 --> 0:34:07.040
<v Speaker 3>probably diving in until midnight every night, preparing in the

0:34:07.040 --> 0:34:09.799
<v Speaker 3>playbook in case he started this past week, which again

0:34:09.880 --> 0:34:11.840
<v Speaker 3>this is he knows the deal, like this is.

0:34:12.040 --> 0:34:14.879
<v Speaker 4>For his future, his livelihood. This is his super Bowl.

0:34:14.880 --> 0:34:18.160
<v Speaker 3>And we always talk about we like backing the backups

0:34:18.160 --> 0:34:21.000
<v Speaker 3>in their first start, usually not the second start, usually

0:34:21.000 --> 0:34:24.719
<v Speaker 3>the first start. And you're right, I probably just need

0:34:24.760 --> 0:34:27.880
<v Speaker 3>to swallow and take this Houston team. But like you,

0:34:28.280 --> 0:34:30.880
<v Speaker 3>I'll just be patient, see what the public and professionals do.

0:34:30.960 --> 0:34:34.359
<v Speaker 3>If CJ is not cleared, maybe we do get a

0:34:34.360 --> 0:34:36.680
<v Speaker 3>plus two and a half plus three bump and then

0:34:36.680 --> 0:34:38.160
<v Speaker 3>we're in a really good spot. Right we have this

0:34:38.200 --> 0:34:41.520
<v Speaker 3>Houston defense as a dog at home against Trevor Lawrence

0:34:41.560 --> 0:34:44.080
<v Speaker 3>is a road favorite once again, and try to warn

0:34:44.120 --> 0:34:46.239
<v Speaker 3>you last week about it, you don't. I just something

0:34:46.280 --> 0:34:48.160
<v Speaker 3>about Trevor Lawrence on the road as a favorite will

0:34:48.160 --> 0:34:50.319
<v Speaker 3>always scare me because he's always gonna keep the other

0:34:50.360 --> 0:34:52.359
<v Speaker 3>team in it. I feel like it's the same thing

0:34:52.400 --> 0:34:54.520
<v Speaker 3>here and you're we're both talking about a lob where

0:34:54.520 --> 0:34:57.319
<v Speaker 3>it's like it's another bet on Houston's defense like we

0:34:57.400 --> 0:34:58.799
<v Speaker 3>have been doing these basketball weeks.

0:34:58.840 --> 0:35:01.799
<v Speaker 4>It's just such a a great unit, especially turn the

0:35:01.800 --> 0:35:04.719
<v Speaker 4>teams over. So be patient. Let's see if we get

0:35:04.719 --> 0:35:07.080
<v Speaker 4>a plus number here on this Texans team.

0:35:09.000 --> 0:35:11.240
<v Speaker 1>We have so much agreement this week after last week.

0:35:11.760 --> 0:35:13.960
<v Speaker 1>I think that actually bodes well. I think last week

0:35:13.960 --> 0:35:17.360
<v Speaker 1>one of our problems might have been we couldn't find agreement.

0:35:17.680 --> 0:35:19.759
<v Speaker 1>And it turns out like all the games you liked

0:35:19.880 --> 0:35:22.000
<v Speaker 1>were the right side, all the games I liked were

0:35:22.040 --> 0:35:24.000
<v Speaker 1>the right side, and the games that we could agree

0:35:24.040 --> 0:35:26.799
<v Speaker 1>on were the wrong side. So I think this is

0:35:26.840 --> 0:35:30.520
<v Speaker 1>trending well for US. New England and Tampa Bay. Simon

0:35:30.600 --> 0:35:33.960
<v Speaker 1>and Tampa Bay Buccaneers are two and a half point favorites.

0:35:34.440 --> 0:35:37.800
<v Speaker 1>Hit It, Hit It, Hit It one hundred percent Change

0:35:37.960 --> 0:35:43.960
<v Speaker 1>Choice presented by hard Rock Bet are the Tampa Bay Buccaneers?

0:35:44.719 --> 0:35:46.759
<v Speaker 4>Are you sure you want to do this? Are you

0:35:46.800 --> 0:35:50.319
<v Speaker 4>willing to make a choice? My choice? We can't run

0:35:50.360 --> 0:35:53.960
<v Speaker 4>from who we are. Sharp dudes can just see it,

0:35:54.160 --> 0:35:54.759
<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean.

0:35:58.080 --> 0:36:02.120
<v Speaker 1>Buccaneers minus two and a half against the high flying

0:36:02.960 --> 0:36:07.840
<v Speaker 1>Drake May mvping New England Patriots, and you dropped a

0:36:07.880 --> 0:36:10.919
<v Speaker 1>little bit of a hint about this on Sunday night.

0:36:11.719 --> 0:36:13.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm actually surprised it hasn't moved to three yet. And

0:36:13.800 --> 0:36:17.840
<v Speaker 1>that's an indication to me of the respect that everybody

0:36:17.880 --> 0:36:21.480
<v Speaker 1>is giving Drake May and Mike vrabel. I kind of

0:36:21.480 --> 0:36:24.839
<v Speaker 1>feel like, because Baker in the box got beat up

0:36:24.880 --> 0:36:26.719
<v Speaker 1>so bad by the Lions and then went under the

0:36:26.760 --> 0:36:29.839
<v Speaker 1>bye week, they've forgotten the Baker mayfield was Drake May

0:36:29.920 --> 0:36:33.239
<v Speaker 1>before Drake May was Drake May in the MVP race,

0:36:33.360 --> 0:36:37.200
<v Speaker 1>meaning the surprise MVP that everybody is talking about who's cooking,

0:36:37.239 --> 0:36:39.480
<v Speaker 1>no matter where he's playing, no matter who's on the field.

0:36:40.640 --> 0:36:42.600
<v Speaker 1>The Pats have won six in a row since starting

0:36:42.680 --> 0:36:46.960
<v Speaker 1>one and two. The last four Simon have included blot

0:36:46.960 --> 0:36:53.920
<v Speaker 1>wins over the Saints, the Browns, the Titans, and then

0:36:54.120 --> 0:36:57.960
<v Speaker 1>a nail bier against the only you could say competitive

0:36:57.960 --> 0:37:01.920
<v Speaker 1>team they played in, the Falcons. The Bucks are in

0:37:02.040 --> 0:37:06.560
<v Speaker 1>every way in this game, a step up in class

0:37:06.600 --> 0:37:10.080
<v Speaker 1>for the New England Patriots and the Patriots on the road.

0:37:10.560 --> 0:37:13.839
<v Speaker 1>They've now after playing hurt for a few months, they're

0:37:13.840 --> 0:37:18.960
<v Speaker 1>getting guys back. Luke Getticky his practice window has opened

0:37:19.000 --> 0:37:21.600
<v Speaker 1>after being on injured reserve. There's a chance he could

0:37:21.600 --> 0:37:24.000
<v Speaker 1>play this week. Baker's had a couple of weeks to

0:37:24.040 --> 0:37:29.239
<v Speaker 1>heal a lot of his injuries and ailments. A confident

0:37:29.280 --> 0:37:34.200
<v Speaker 1>Baker at home as a short road favorite against an

0:37:34.280 --> 0:37:38.680
<v Speaker 1>up and coming team. I think the coaching matchup is good,

0:37:38.760 --> 0:37:43.960
<v Speaker 1>Like Mike Rabel isn't gonna out coach Todd Bowles give

0:37:44.000 --> 0:37:44.520
<v Speaker 1>me the box.

0:37:46.520 --> 0:37:47.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's crazy where.

0:37:48.080 --> 0:37:50.719
<v Speaker 3>I love this one too, And it feels like I

0:37:50.760 --> 0:37:53.799
<v Speaker 3>give up five games I really liked on Sunday night

0:37:54.120 --> 0:37:56.840
<v Speaker 3>and they all moved in great directions for me. Looks

0:37:56.840 --> 0:37:59.120
<v Speaker 3>like I made a couple of great bets except this one.

0:37:59.160 --> 0:38:02.080
<v Speaker 3>This is not and of all of them, this felt

0:38:02.120 --> 0:38:03.080
<v Speaker 3>like one of the easier picks.

0:38:03.160 --> 0:38:03.319
<v Speaker 4>Right.

0:38:03.440 --> 0:38:06.680
<v Speaker 3>We're happy to be selling on the Patriots, like you said,

0:38:06.719 --> 0:38:09.759
<v Speaker 3>on the road here in a really tough matchup for them,

0:38:09.760 --> 0:38:13.240
<v Speaker 3>playing against the team that and every metric is just better.

0:38:13.400 --> 0:38:16.400
<v Speaker 3>Like flat out, we talk about a veteran team, a

0:38:16.440 --> 0:38:19.000
<v Speaker 3>complete team that is going to be contending for Super Bowls.

0:38:19.400 --> 0:38:20.960
<v Speaker 3>You think of this Bucks team when you think of

0:38:21.000 --> 0:38:25.520
<v Speaker 3>an overachieving, overachieving team that's fighting way above their weight, Right,

0:38:25.560 --> 0:38:28.560
<v Speaker 3>now it's got to be the Patriots, like everything is

0:38:28.600 --> 0:38:31.880
<v Speaker 3>going their way. And you know, that's why I understand

0:38:31.880 --> 0:38:34.080
<v Speaker 3>why Pitchers fans are so excited the Drake May stuff.

0:38:34.480 --> 0:38:36.399
<v Speaker 3>It's crazy. I really can't go over even going back

0:38:36.400 --> 0:38:40.960
<v Speaker 3>and watching that game. He's making really stupid mistakes. Still

0:38:41.000 --> 0:38:44.280
<v Speaker 3>did enough to win that game after making really bad mistakes,

0:38:44.280 --> 0:38:45.680
<v Speaker 3>which again, that's all you're looking for.

0:38:45.719 --> 0:38:46.600
<v Speaker 4>If you're a Patriots fan.

0:38:46.680 --> 0:38:48.920
<v Speaker 3>You're lying to yourself if you think you're gonna have

0:38:49.040 --> 0:38:51.800
<v Speaker 3>playoff success this year. But there's a little things you

0:38:51.800 --> 0:38:53.799
<v Speaker 3>can see where it's like Drake May might be a guy,

0:38:53.880 --> 0:38:55.040
<v Speaker 3>which is all you want to see at the end

0:38:55.040 --> 0:38:55.359
<v Speaker 3>of the day.

0:38:55.440 --> 0:38:56.799
<v Speaker 4>So this type of.

0:38:56.760 --> 0:38:59.560
<v Speaker 3>Game, he goes in there and wins this, I'm happy

0:38:59.560 --> 0:39:03.040
<v Speaker 3>to eat it. Talk to a couple pros hit me

0:39:03.120 --> 0:39:05.440
<v Speaker 3>up yesterday after he listen to our show, and they

0:39:05.640 --> 0:39:08.480
<v Speaker 3>like the patriotsier and they think we're overrating a bucks

0:39:08.480 --> 0:39:12.760
<v Speaker 3>team that you know, they did get embarrassed by Detroit,

0:39:12.800 --> 0:39:14.919
<v Speaker 3>but like you said, they bounced back the following week.

0:39:15.040 --> 0:39:19.359
<v Speaker 3>Their defense really destroyed the Saints. Maybe something is wrong

0:39:19.400 --> 0:39:21.320
<v Speaker 3>with Baker and they got an info and I'm missing

0:39:21.400 --> 0:39:23.399
<v Speaker 3>on it, and that he is hurt, and even after

0:39:23.400 --> 0:39:25.439
<v Speaker 3>the Bible, he's still not right because he just hasn't

0:39:25.440 --> 0:39:28.960
<v Speaker 3>looked right in their previous two games. So this feels

0:39:28.960 --> 0:39:31.640
<v Speaker 3>like a guy right spot for Baker. Christigan Zalez didn't

0:39:31.719 --> 0:39:35.000
<v Speaker 3>land right. He's banged up for this Patriots team after

0:39:35.040 --> 0:39:37.239
<v Speaker 3>a really tough game against Drake London last week. So

0:39:38.120 --> 0:39:40.279
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, Chad, why is this not gone to three?

0:39:40.400 --> 0:39:42.320
<v Speaker 3>I do not get why this one has not moved.

0:39:42.320 --> 0:39:45.200
<v Speaker 3>So I'm with you, I'll grab it now. If it

0:39:45.239 --> 0:39:47.080
<v Speaker 3>moves lower, I'm gonna be a sucker. I'll by buy

0:39:47.120 --> 0:39:49.800
<v Speaker 3>some more Bucks line here. But anything under three, I

0:39:49.800 --> 0:39:51.600
<v Speaker 3>feel like is a great Bucks line. They just feel

0:39:51.640 --> 0:39:53.600
<v Speaker 3>like not only are their field goal better, I feel

0:39:53.600 --> 0:39:54.560
<v Speaker 3>like they're even better than that.

0:39:54.680 --> 0:39:57.480
<v Speaker 4>Like they feel like if they got healthy guys are back.

0:39:57.360 --> 0:39:59.920
<v Speaker 3>This week for them, specially that offensive line, I could

0:40:00.080 --> 0:40:02.120
<v Speaker 3>see them steamroll this Patriots defense.

0:40:02.200 --> 0:40:04.480
<v Speaker 4>So really interesting. The books have held this at two

0:40:04.520 --> 0:40:05.000
<v Speaker 4>and a half.

0:40:05.360 --> 0:40:09.400
<v Speaker 1>We have breaking news Simon. As we are discussing, Adam

0:40:09.440 --> 0:40:15.919
<v Speaker 1>Schefter is reporting that the Indianapolis Colts have traded two

0:40:16.160 --> 0:40:22.040
<v Speaker 1>first round picks, two the New York Jets four.

0:40:23.400 --> 0:40:25.200
<v Speaker 2>Sauce Gardener.

0:40:26.000 --> 0:40:26.600
<v Speaker 4>Mm hmm.

0:40:29.160 --> 0:40:34.160
<v Speaker 1>Sauce Gardner's sort of been struggling mightily with Aaron Glenn

0:40:34.760 --> 0:40:35.239
<v Speaker 1>this year.

0:40:35.360 --> 0:40:38.160
<v Speaker 2>So this is a guy who the Jets.

0:40:37.960 --> 0:40:39.560
<v Speaker 3>Have gotten rid of their number one and number two

0:40:39.600 --> 0:40:42.200
<v Speaker 3>corner in the last two weeks because they traded uh

0:40:42.400 --> 0:40:43.320
<v Speaker 3>Carter to the Eagles.

0:40:43.320 --> 0:40:44.720
<v Speaker 2>I think, yeah, So.

0:40:46.160 --> 0:40:51.000
<v Speaker 1>To me, is this just a breakup of a bad

0:40:51.080 --> 0:40:53.759
<v Speaker 1>match between coach and player? Is it a player who

0:40:53.800 --> 0:40:57.480
<v Speaker 1>after two stellar seasons has hit his ceiling and is

0:40:57.920 --> 0:41:00.799
<v Speaker 1>falling off? Was it an attitude thing? I don't know

0:41:00.840 --> 0:41:02.120
<v Speaker 1>the answers to any of these.

0:41:02.200 --> 0:41:05.520
<v Speaker 3>They gave him one hundred twenty million.

0:41:05.800 --> 0:41:09.160
<v Speaker 1>They just gave him a ridiculous amount of money. And

0:41:09.200 --> 0:41:11.560
<v Speaker 1>now he's going to the Colts, who have had some

0:41:11.880 --> 0:41:13.160
<v Speaker 1>issues on the edges.

0:41:13.280 --> 0:41:15.120
<v Speaker 2>Defending against number.

0:41:15.000 --> 0:41:18.720
<v Speaker 1>One receivers huge upgrade for the Colts and shows shows

0:41:18.719 --> 0:41:21.640
<v Speaker 1>that the Colts feel like they're going all in and

0:41:21.680 --> 0:41:26.480
<v Speaker 1>that they're in a really good spot right now. I

0:41:26.480 --> 0:41:28.759
<v Speaker 1>don't know that it makes a difference to me in

0:41:28.840 --> 0:41:31.840
<v Speaker 1>the number Like it's not like you know, Terry.

0:41:31.680 --> 0:41:35.200
<v Speaker 3>Judy, But I don't know if Dylan Garb was gonna

0:41:35.200 --> 0:41:38.160
<v Speaker 3>take advantage of the Sauce Pardner, That's what I mean.

0:41:38.480 --> 0:41:47.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Also, the Saints traded Rashid Shaheed to the Seattle Seahawks.

0:41:47.680 --> 0:41:50.920
<v Speaker 3>Interesting though I like the Colts when now I'm all

0:41:50.960 --> 0:41:54.200
<v Speaker 3>about it there, I agree with that with the Colts team,

0:41:54.360 --> 0:41:57.719
<v Speaker 3>like they're again idiots like me, and we're never going

0:41:57.800 --> 0:42:00.320
<v Speaker 3>to believe them. I'm always gonna take my homes or

0:42:00.440 --> 0:42:03.600
<v Speaker 3>Josh Allen over them in the playoffs. But there's a

0:42:03.640 --> 0:42:05.160
<v Speaker 3>path you just got to make it with that type

0:42:05.200 --> 0:42:08.239
<v Speaker 3>of offense that Daniel Jones is clicking right, So their

0:42:08.280 --> 0:42:11.440
<v Speaker 3>biggest weakness by far was that secondary cornerback position.

0:42:11.520 --> 0:42:12.160
<v Speaker 4>So that's awesome.

0:42:12.200 --> 0:42:14.239
<v Speaker 3>They're making moves, but yeah, I don't know if either

0:42:14.239 --> 0:42:16.080
<v Speaker 3>of us are greed two first round picks for a

0:42:16.120 --> 0:42:17.920
<v Speaker 3>guy making that kind of money.

0:42:18.040 --> 0:42:20.000
<v Speaker 4>That's heavy, that's questionable.

0:42:20.560 --> 0:42:24.440
<v Speaker 1>That's an all in move. Yeah, all in Baltimore and Minnesota.

0:42:24.480 --> 0:42:27.200
<v Speaker 1>Minnesota is a three and a half point underdog. Numbers

0:42:27.200 --> 0:42:29.600
<v Speaker 1>moved up a little bit. Listen, I've been I've been

0:42:30.080 --> 0:42:33.080
<v Speaker 1>throughout this whole week. I've been trying to find underdogs

0:42:33.400 --> 0:42:36.480
<v Speaker 1>to fall in love with and not lead into the favorites.

0:42:36.480 --> 0:42:40.759
<v Speaker 1>After the blood bath last week, and I felt like

0:42:40.800 --> 0:42:46.080
<v Speaker 1>the Vikings could possibly be it, and I can't get there.

0:42:46.600 --> 0:42:48.360
<v Speaker 1>I just can't get there, Like I have to believe

0:42:48.400 --> 0:42:52.520
<v Speaker 1>the signs I've seen from the Broncos defense since they came.

0:42:52.360 --> 0:42:53.719
<v Speaker 4>Out of the by Baltimore.

0:42:53.840 --> 0:42:56.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm sorry Baltimore's defense since they came out

0:42:56.920 --> 0:43:00.759
<v Speaker 1>of the by plus Lamar Jackson being back is a

0:43:00.800 --> 0:43:04.040
<v Speaker 1>greater indicator of the direction of this team than what

0:43:04.080 --> 0:43:06.319
<v Speaker 1>we saw last week with JJ McCarthy, who had some

0:43:06.360 --> 0:43:09.120
<v Speaker 1>really nice throws and they got him out to the

0:43:09.200 --> 0:43:11.720
<v Speaker 1>edges where they can take advantage of his athleticism.

0:43:12.480 --> 0:43:14.720
<v Speaker 2>But Lebar Jackson is not Jared Goff.

0:43:15.440 --> 0:43:17.640
<v Speaker 1>What the Vikings did against Jared Goff to make him

0:43:17.680 --> 0:43:20.000
<v Speaker 1>ineffective in bringing the pressure is not going to be

0:43:20.040 --> 0:43:24.000
<v Speaker 1>as effective as on Labar Jackson. So I can't get

0:43:24.040 --> 0:43:25.839
<v Speaker 1>to the Vikings here, and I really want to.

0:43:27.000 --> 0:43:28.759
<v Speaker 3>No, it feels like the books on the bad Line

0:43:28.800 --> 0:43:33.320
<v Speaker 3>we took Sunday. Opening this three minus one twenty on

0:43:33.360 --> 0:43:36.440
<v Speaker 3>the Ravens was egregious hard rock. I'm looking at a

0:43:36.480 --> 0:43:38.879
<v Speaker 3>live here in Jersey. They've just moved to minus four.

0:43:38.920 --> 0:43:40.920
<v Speaker 3>They were the last book hanging on the minus three

0:43:40.960 --> 0:43:43.520
<v Speaker 3>and a half. With this Ravens team, it's gone. Every

0:43:43.520 --> 0:43:45.560
<v Speaker 3>book now is minus four minus four and a half.

0:43:46.760 --> 0:43:50.399
<v Speaker 3>I think I'll keep growing. Like you said, maybe we'll

0:43:50.400 --> 0:43:52.920
<v Speaker 3>get there on Sunday with this Vikings team because it

0:43:52.960 --> 0:43:56.240
<v Speaker 3>will be probably the biggest need for all the sports books.

0:43:56.960 --> 0:43:59.160
<v Speaker 3>I'm somebody that I'm as well. I have just been

0:43:59.200 --> 0:44:01.440
<v Speaker 3>hammering this Raven's money line. I don't I don't get

0:44:01.440 --> 0:44:06.319
<v Speaker 3>the number. Raven Lamar just himself owns NFC teams, and

0:44:06.400 --> 0:44:07.920
<v Speaker 3>you look at this matchup. We talked a little bit

0:44:07.920 --> 0:44:11.640
<v Speaker 3>Sunday night. The worst run defense the Vikings. Yes, they

0:44:11.640 --> 0:44:14.760
<v Speaker 3>did look good against that Detroit team. Tons of credit

0:44:14.760 --> 0:44:17.120
<v Speaker 3>to Floores. Are they going to do it?

0:44:17.120 --> 0:44:17.359
<v Speaker 4>Really?

0:44:17.360 --> 0:44:21.080
<v Speaker 3>Two games in a row like this is you move

0:44:21.160 --> 0:44:23.480
<v Speaker 3>Lamar off his spot, He's gonna burn you for twenty

0:44:23.560 --> 0:44:25.680
<v Speaker 3>yards with his legs. Do they have the linebackers a

0:44:25.760 --> 0:44:26.640
<v Speaker 3>spy Lamar?

0:44:26.880 --> 0:44:29.359
<v Speaker 4>Like? There's a lot of stuff I like here for this.

0:44:29.320 --> 0:44:32.560
<v Speaker 3>Ravens team, between Derek Henry's running style and Lamar's running

0:44:32.560 --> 0:44:35.480
<v Speaker 3>style against the Vikings team that does struggle against the runs.

0:44:35.480 --> 0:44:39.279
<v Speaker 3>So really interesting number of the book opened it. Like

0:44:39.320 --> 0:44:41.040
<v Speaker 3>I said, it's up to minus four and a half.

0:44:41.080 --> 0:44:43.439
<v Speaker 3>Now in most books it's minus four. At hard Rock,

0:44:44.440 --> 0:44:46.719
<v Speaker 3>I still a little attempted to take the Ravens. But

0:44:47.680 --> 0:44:50.239
<v Speaker 3>if we can get to the number that should be

0:44:50.360 --> 0:44:53.280
<v Speaker 3>six six and a half, and this is the biggest

0:44:53.280 --> 0:44:56.560
<v Speaker 3>need of the sports book. No chance I let us

0:44:56.600 --> 0:44:59.520
<v Speaker 3>touch this one for contest or betting wise. But as

0:44:59.560 --> 0:45:02.759
<v Speaker 3>we said here right now, if you can get I

0:45:02.800 --> 0:45:04.279
<v Speaker 3>don't think he can. If you can get the minas

0:45:04.320 --> 0:45:05.760
<v Speaker 3>three and a half, I'd still take on the Ravens,

0:45:05.760 --> 0:45:07.280
<v Speaker 3>but I think you're the best You're gonna.

0:45:07.080 --> 0:45:10.240
<v Speaker 4>Get now is the four and yeah only fource. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm just I'm gonna wait and be patient this

0:45:12.560 --> 0:45:14.680
<v Speaker 3>one now and see what the professionals do with it.

0:45:14.719 --> 0:45:17.120
<v Speaker 3>But just a terrible opening line by the books, and

0:45:17.640 --> 0:45:19.840
<v Speaker 3>hopefully people listen Sunday night and took advantage of that

0:45:19.920 --> 0:45:21.520
<v Speaker 3>number because it was just egregious.

0:45:21.719 --> 0:45:23.799
<v Speaker 1>You just mentioned the money line though, Minu money line

0:45:23.800 --> 0:45:25.439
<v Speaker 1>I think is minus two twenty five.

0:45:27.400 --> 0:45:29.520
<v Speaker 2>So did I see that right? Did I? Did I

0:45:29.520 --> 0:45:29.920
<v Speaker 2>see the right?

0:45:30.000 --> 0:45:30.120
<v Speaker 4>Now?

0:45:30.800 --> 0:45:35.239
<v Speaker 3>Hard Rock is minus two ten red that's moving though,

0:45:35.320 --> 0:45:38.360
<v Speaker 3>Like sim I've hit that when it was minus one eighty,

0:45:38.560 --> 0:45:41.399
<v Speaker 3>minus one ninety, minus two hundred. If you can still

0:45:41.440 --> 0:45:44.080
<v Speaker 3>get the minus two ten, I would like Chad saying,

0:45:44.120 --> 0:45:46.520
<v Speaker 3>I think it's gonna settle minus two twenty five to thirty.

0:45:46.680 --> 0:45:50.560
<v Speaker 4>So I again, I'm not here telling people to go

0:45:50.600 --> 0:45:52.680
<v Speaker 4>all in on this with the money line, but this.

0:45:52.600 --> 0:45:55.000
<v Speaker 3>Is the exact type of games Lamar does win and cover.

0:45:55.080 --> 0:45:57.759
<v Speaker 3>He just beats up on defenses that can't stop the

0:45:57.840 --> 0:46:02.640
<v Speaker 3>running we talked about. This is a very desperate, desperate

0:46:02.719 --> 0:46:05.960
<v Speaker 3>Ravens team playing a Vikings team coming off a huge

0:46:06.000 --> 0:46:08.799
<v Speaker 3>win with a young quarterback, and howsie handled that success.

0:46:09.160 --> 0:46:10.880
<v Speaker 4>I just I can't get over how bad of a

0:46:10.880 --> 0:46:12.200
<v Speaker 4>spot this is for this Vikings team.

0:46:12.239 --> 0:46:14.400
<v Speaker 3>On the flip side, how great of a spot it

0:46:14.440 --> 0:46:17.160
<v Speaker 3>is for this Ravens team. So yeah, it's it's not

0:46:17.239 --> 0:46:19.319
<v Speaker 3>shocking to see this number getting pounded up to four

0:46:19.320 --> 0:46:20.080
<v Speaker 3>and a half right now.

0:46:21.120 --> 0:46:23.640
<v Speaker 1>Lamar Jackson's been as good against the Blitz as any

0:46:23.680 --> 0:46:26.160
<v Speaker 1>quarterback in the NFL the last couple of years, not

0:46:26.239 --> 0:46:28.000
<v Speaker 1>counting this year obviously, I haven't played as much, but

0:46:28.120 --> 0:46:33.080
<v Speaker 1>last year especially outstanding, outstanding.

0:46:33.239 --> 0:46:35.400
<v Speaker 3>I think he's like leading the league in QBR right

0:46:35.440 --> 0:46:37.960
<v Speaker 3>now too, Like he's just he's awesome.

0:46:38.200 --> 0:46:40.040
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. The thing holding them back.

0:46:39.960 --> 0:46:42.520
<v Speaker 3>This year has been their defense, and they look like

0:46:42.600 --> 0:46:45.160
<v Speaker 3>they figured stuff out like they did last year. Remember

0:46:45.160 --> 0:46:47.319
<v Speaker 3>that second half of last year, and it's all about

0:46:47.360 --> 0:46:50.000
<v Speaker 3>Coyle Hamilton making the adjustments with him him coming down

0:46:50.000 --> 0:46:51.480
<v Speaker 3>in the box, playing more free.

0:46:52.040 --> 0:46:54.080
<v Speaker 4>You see, it just affects that defense in so many ways.

0:46:54.080 --> 0:46:54.960
<v Speaker 4>With him at ro Con.

0:46:54.760 --> 0:46:58.040
<v Speaker 1>Smith Arizona at Seattle, Seattle's six and a half point

0:46:58.040 --> 0:47:01.000
<v Speaker 1>favorite at home, the line has dropped, and Sovan here's

0:47:01.000 --> 0:47:01.959
<v Speaker 1>the problem with this game.

0:47:03.120 --> 0:47:06.839
<v Speaker 2>Seahawks are peak peak, peak, peak, peak peak value right now.

0:47:06.920 --> 0:47:10.759
<v Speaker 1>Sam Darnold is everybody's favorite MVP candidate, even though he's

0:47:10.800 --> 0:47:14.240
<v Speaker 1>still twenty to one to win the MVP. He's behind

0:47:14.280 --> 0:47:18.400
<v Speaker 1>Josh Allen, He's behind Patrick Mahomes, he's behind Drake may Still,

0:47:18.440 --> 0:47:21.880
<v Speaker 1>who all have significantly shorter odds. And this defense has

0:47:21.920 --> 0:47:26.719
<v Speaker 1>been unstoppable, especially coming off rest week seeing what they

0:47:26.719 --> 0:47:31.400
<v Speaker 1>did to the Commanders. Cardinals have lost close games with

0:47:31.480 --> 0:47:36.480
<v Speaker 1>Kyler Murray. They finally won one with Jakobe Brissett in

0:47:36.520 --> 0:47:40.040
<v Speaker 1>an offense that basically with him has just looked much

0:47:40.160 --> 0:47:44.480
<v Speaker 1>much better than it is with Kyler. And this is

0:47:44.480 --> 0:47:50.280
<v Speaker 1>without its first and second string running backs. Jonathan Gannon

0:47:50.320 --> 0:47:56.680
<v Speaker 1>has said Kyler Murray is the starting quarterback, but could

0:47:56.680 --> 0:48:00.279
<v Speaker 1>they just sort of keep shadow benching Kyler Murray like

0:48:00.880 --> 0:48:02.600
<v Speaker 1>I would much rather bet on this game.

0:48:02.440 --> 0:48:04.120
<v Speaker 2>If it was to Kobe Brissette than if it was

0:48:04.200 --> 0:48:04.800
<v Speaker 2>Kyler Murray.

0:48:05.920 --> 0:48:08.560
<v Speaker 3>Totally agree. And I know it's been very lazy and

0:48:08.600 --> 0:48:10.319
<v Speaker 3>boring to people. I've just been pound the table all

0:48:10.400 --> 0:48:13.879
<v Speaker 3>year about it. Seahawks on the road has to become

0:48:13.880 --> 0:48:16.879
<v Speaker 3>an auto bet. They're just the defense travels. I said

0:48:16.880 --> 0:48:18.759
<v Speaker 3>the last week against the Commanders, I couldn't get over

0:48:18.840 --> 0:48:21.000
<v Speaker 3>how underrated the public keeps.

0:48:20.840 --> 0:48:22.400
<v Speaker 4>Beat on the Seahawks defense traveling.

0:48:22.560 --> 0:48:25.480
<v Speaker 3>And literally, I know Sam Donald was gonna be perfect

0:48:25.600 --> 0:48:28.400
<v Speaker 3>in that first half. You just didn't matter so much

0:48:28.440 --> 0:48:30.080
<v Speaker 3>about what the defense was gonna do. Sam darnalld a

0:48:30.160 --> 0:48:33.440
<v Speaker 3>night like that, you're not gonna beat them. So I

0:48:33.600 --> 0:48:36.160
<v Speaker 3>just I'm gonna keep doing it. I'm gonna keep fading

0:48:36.200 --> 0:48:39.520
<v Speaker 3>the Seahawks team when they're at home against good offenses,

0:48:39.600 --> 0:48:42.280
<v Speaker 3>because I just they like their defense plays differently at home.

0:48:42.600 --> 0:48:45.759
<v Speaker 3>I mean, just going back to the two losses this year.

0:48:45.960 --> 0:48:48.400
<v Speaker 3>Week one I talked about that was a fluke. I

0:48:48.760 --> 0:48:50.800
<v Speaker 3>liked the Seahawks. They lost seventeen to thirteen on a

0:48:50.880 --> 0:48:54.160
<v Speaker 3>last drive by Purty in a game which Sam Darner

0:48:54.200 --> 0:48:56.960
<v Speaker 3>just wasn't comfortable yet in that Seahawks offense. The other

0:48:57.040 --> 0:49:00.879
<v Speaker 3>loss against the Bucks, the defense gave up thirty eight

0:49:00.880 --> 0:49:03.680
<v Speaker 3>points at home against you know what, we respect to

0:49:03.680 --> 0:49:06.959
<v Speaker 3>be a really potent offense right now and that Bucks team.

0:49:07.000 --> 0:49:09.160
<v Speaker 3>But I feel the same about this Cardinals team when

0:49:09.160 --> 0:49:12.480
<v Speaker 3>it's Jacoby Brissett. So I'm like Chad, I bet into this.

0:49:13.160 --> 0:49:15.160
<v Speaker 3>I want to best up Penny more until I know

0:49:15.400 --> 0:49:17.880
<v Speaker 3>exactly who the starting quarterback is. I am not betting

0:49:18.320 --> 0:49:21.000
<v Speaker 3>Kyler Murray in his first start back after a big

0:49:21.040 --> 0:49:23.319
<v Speaker 3>injury on the road, even though I always say Kyler

0:49:23.440 --> 0:49:25.799
<v Speaker 3>is a dog, is a great bet. I just feel

0:49:25.800 --> 0:49:27.720
<v Speaker 3>like that's too much ask of the guy coming back

0:49:28.239 --> 0:49:31.920
<v Speaker 3>Rusty in this exact spot. It's it's too much, So

0:49:32.920 --> 0:49:35.359
<v Speaker 3>I'll be patient. I'm not going to force it in there.

0:49:35.360 --> 0:49:37.080
<v Speaker 3>But I man, I love this at plus six and

0:49:37.120 --> 0:49:39.920
<v Speaker 3>a half for the visit Jacoby Brissett just feels like

0:49:39.960 --> 0:49:41.799
<v Speaker 3>a game. They're gonna be competitive in it the whole time.

0:49:41.880 --> 0:49:45.799
<v Speaker 3>Like we always say, this division, it's one of the

0:49:45.800 --> 0:49:48.920
<v Speaker 3>best right now in football. The Seahawks, Rams and Foyn Andres,

0:49:48.920 --> 0:49:52.120
<v Speaker 3>they're they're the teams. But like I keep saying about Arizona,

0:49:52.239 --> 0:49:54.640
<v Speaker 3>they play teams close they played the Colts close, they

0:49:54.640 --> 0:49:57.360
<v Speaker 3>played Green Bay close. They play up to the competition level.

0:49:57.760 --> 0:50:01.239
<v Speaker 3>So I like this a lot if it's set, But yeah,

0:50:01.280 --> 0:50:02.280
<v Speaker 3>I think we're both in agreement.

0:50:02.280 --> 0:50:03.800
<v Speaker 4>I'm not going to force in if it's Keller.

0:50:03.680 --> 0:50:07.240
<v Speaker 1>Murray Detroit at Washington. The numbers eight and a half.

0:50:07.280 --> 0:50:10.560
<v Speaker 1>It was three on Sunday night when we talked.

0:50:10.400 --> 0:50:11.440
<v Speaker 2>About like in Detroit.

0:50:12.320 --> 0:50:14.960
<v Speaker 1>Basically, what we're being told is that Jaydon Daniels is

0:50:15.000 --> 0:50:17.080
<v Speaker 1>worth five and a half points. Do you think he's

0:50:17.080 --> 0:50:18.440
<v Speaker 1>worth five and a half points.

0:50:18.760 --> 0:50:21.520
<v Speaker 3>This year with all the stuff that gets going on, Like, no,

0:50:21.680 --> 0:50:24.399
<v Speaker 3>Terry McLaurin, that feels fair because he's not been healthy

0:50:24.440 --> 0:50:27.319
<v Speaker 3>all year. He's been playing through injuries all season. And yeah,

0:50:27.360 --> 0:50:30.080
<v Speaker 3>no one wants to victory lap saying Washington was gonna

0:50:30.080 --> 0:50:32.200
<v Speaker 3>be bad this year in regress after a quarterback gets hurt.

0:50:32.800 --> 0:50:35.920
<v Speaker 3>But everything we worried about has come true for Washington.

0:50:35.960 --> 0:50:38.040
<v Speaker 3>And how do you now feel bad for their fan

0:50:38.080 --> 0:50:41.160
<v Speaker 3>base where it's like it's all there, right, your team

0:50:41.200 --> 0:50:43.680
<v Speaker 3>has invested to win. Now for this season, you're like

0:50:43.680 --> 0:50:46.440
<v Speaker 3>the oldest team of football. Every move you made it

0:50:46.440 --> 0:50:48.239
<v Speaker 3>looks like a dud, and it looks like it's gonna

0:50:48.239 --> 0:50:49.640
<v Speaker 3>be a two to three year rebuild.

0:50:49.680 --> 0:50:52.120
<v Speaker 4>Now, Like when you're really looking at their team on paper.

0:50:52.040 --> 0:50:54.359
<v Speaker 2>Well, their defense is just so bad, atrocious.

0:50:54.480 --> 0:50:56.960
<v Speaker 3>And their coach, I said it last week, I think

0:50:57.360 --> 0:50:59.040
<v Speaker 3>he might be an idiot, like some of the stuff

0:50:59.080 --> 0:51:01.120
<v Speaker 3>he did with Mary, treating him as if he was

0:51:01.200 --> 0:51:03.919
<v Speaker 3>Jane Daniels. And now fast forward to this week, having

0:51:03.960 --> 0:51:06.520
<v Speaker 3>your star quarterback who's playing banged up, still in that

0:51:06.600 --> 0:51:08.920
<v Speaker 3>game that you have zero chances coming back, and then

0:51:09.000 --> 0:51:12.120
<v Speaker 3>getting hurt. I just I can't get over how bad

0:51:12.400 --> 0:51:14.480
<v Speaker 3>Dan Quinn might be as a quarter as a head coach.

0:51:14.560 --> 0:51:16.279
<v Speaker 4>So I don't know.

0:51:16.800 --> 0:51:19.239
<v Speaker 3>I know, we're probably supposed to take Washington here because

0:51:19.239 --> 0:51:23.080
<v Speaker 3>the Lions moved so much, but this feels like a game.

0:51:22.960 --> 0:51:24.479
<v Speaker 4>Detroit is gonna win forty to nine.

0:51:24.760 --> 0:51:27.719
<v Speaker 3>Just all their frustration from the week before, Campbell just

0:51:27.760 --> 0:51:28.319
<v Speaker 3>pours it on.

0:51:29.040 --> 0:51:31.880
<v Speaker 4>I mean, is it. Did I see that right? The

0:51:32.000 --> 0:51:34.440
<v Speaker 4>levou is suspended the linebacker.

0:51:34.560 --> 0:51:34.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:51:35.080 --> 0:51:37.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So I think he guts spend it for hip

0:51:37.600 --> 0:51:40.480
<v Speaker 3>drop tackle. He keeps doing it, and they're like, dude, we're

0:51:40.480 --> 0:51:43.920
<v Speaker 3>already finding enough. Maybe it was a third or fourth offense.

0:51:44.960 --> 0:51:47.440
<v Speaker 3>He's their best, in my opinion, their best defender, Like

0:51:47.480 --> 0:51:52.200
<v Speaker 3>he is really really good linebacker, so you take him out.

0:51:52.360 --> 0:51:55.759
<v Speaker 3>Now you have a thirty seven year old linebacker trying

0:51:55.760 --> 0:51:57.080
<v Speaker 3>to cover the tight ends in the middle of the

0:51:57.080 --> 0:52:00.879
<v Speaker 3>field against this Lions team. Just disaster every way. So

0:52:01.960 --> 0:52:03.759
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if it's gone high enough. I saw

0:52:03.760 --> 0:52:05.080
<v Speaker 3>a couple of books hit nine and a half and

0:52:05.120 --> 0:52:06.680
<v Speaker 3>it's come back down to eight and a half.

0:52:06.760 --> 0:52:10.840
<v Speaker 4>So there is professional money holding us back here. Maybe

0:52:10.840 --> 0:52:12.960
<v Speaker 4>I just am so bitter at Detroit because they burned

0:52:13.000 --> 0:52:15.359
<v Speaker 4>us so bad last week. But this is when we're

0:52:15.360 --> 0:52:16.400
<v Speaker 4>supposed to take Detroit.

0:52:16.480 --> 0:52:19.080
<v Speaker 3>So I'm trying to try not to overreact because we

0:52:19.120 --> 0:52:21.319
<v Speaker 3>got so burned last week by these favorites that there

0:52:21.320 --> 0:52:23.640
<v Speaker 3>are some favorites we just might have to take here,

0:52:23.640 --> 0:52:27.320
<v Speaker 3>and the lines might be one of them. It's like, Okay,

0:52:27.040 --> 0:52:30.399
<v Speaker 3>Mariona might get his against the suspect Lions defense at

0:52:30.400 --> 0:52:34.080
<v Speaker 3>some point, but overall, I just see this Detroit offense

0:52:34.160 --> 0:52:35.239
<v Speaker 3>do whatever they want.

0:52:35.280 --> 0:52:37.160
<v Speaker 4>This watch of the defense might be one of the

0:52:37.160 --> 0:52:37.880
<v Speaker 4>worst in the league.

0:52:38.320 --> 0:52:41.160
<v Speaker 2>It's a tricky one because we're just scared off by

0:52:41.200 --> 0:52:41.760
<v Speaker 2>the big number.

0:52:41.800 --> 0:52:43.480
<v Speaker 4>Again. We just got burned by the Science team.

0:52:43.480 --> 0:52:45.200
<v Speaker 1>It's still just got burned by a lot of teams

0:52:45.200 --> 0:52:48.680
<v Speaker 1>on the big number. And and it's going back into

0:52:48.719 --> 0:52:51.440
<v Speaker 1>the well on the same exact theory that Detroit can't

0:52:51.440 --> 0:52:53.360
<v Speaker 1>be bad again.

0:52:54.239 --> 0:52:56.759
<v Speaker 3>Right, That wasn't our theory last week. That was a

0:52:56.760 --> 0:53:00.200
<v Speaker 3>good matchup. I just again, We got golf, got.

0:53:00.320 --> 0:53:02.320
<v Speaker 2>Got got yeah, exactly, Yeah.

0:53:02.040 --> 0:53:05.440
<v Speaker 4>Patients, patience, composure.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all right.

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<v Speaker 1>We were just talking about Seattle in Zona and how

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<v Speaker 1>good the NFC West is. The Rams going to San Francisco,

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<v Speaker 1>and look, I really want to love San Francisco. Here

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<v Speaker 1>the line is three and a half. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how they're going to play defense in this game. They

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<v Speaker 1>lost another edge defender in Michel Williams, their first round

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<v Speaker 1>draft pick. I know you love Mac and maybe he'll

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<v Speaker 1>be playing quarterback, but the Rams rush d is elite.

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<v Speaker 1>There is no hole in this defensive unit. They're like

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<v Speaker 1>top five across every advanced metric including fifth and EPA

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<v Speaker 1>per rush. So like the Niners are empty at D line,

0:55:45.239 --> 0:55:48.839
<v Speaker 1>they're empty at linebacker. It's a tricky one. The line

0:55:48.880 --> 0:55:51.080
<v Speaker 1>has moved from three to three and a half. I

0:55:51.120 --> 0:55:54.279
<v Speaker 1>know you want to play the Niners here, but.

0:55:56.280 --> 0:55:59.280
<v Speaker 2>It's it's ugly.

0:56:06.880 --> 0:56:09.080
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's it's definitely a word world war.

0:56:09.200 --> 0:56:09.359
<v Speaker 5>Now.

0:56:09.400 --> 0:56:11.840
<v Speaker 3>I'm a lover of Mac Jones, a guy who I

0:56:12.000 --> 0:56:13.920
<v Speaker 3>just notorilously shut him for years.

0:56:13.680 --> 0:56:16.439
<v Speaker 1>And I and I'm all over the rams, Like when

0:56:16.440 --> 0:56:19.000
<v Speaker 1>I used to love betting Kyle Shannon as a home

0:56:19.080 --> 0:56:21.400
<v Speaker 1>dog in a in a game where they're they should

0:56:22.000 --> 0:56:22.400
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't.

0:56:22.440 --> 0:56:25.840
<v Speaker 3>I mean, it feels like you're you're you're overthinking. It's like,

0:56:25.920 --> 0:56:29.399
<v Speaker 3>are are we supposed to take? Not think about this one?

0:56:29.440 --> 0:56:33.520
<v Speaker 3>Take fort n Ice right. Shockingly enough with Purdy, I

0:56:33.520 --> 0:56:35.520
<v Speaker 3>got if he was fully healthy. I have this line

0:56:35.560 --> 0:56:38.040
<v Speaker 3>that minus are plus two for the forty nine ers,

0:56:38.040 --> 0:56:40.560
<v Speaker 3>so they'd still be a dog. Mac Jones is one

0:56:40.560 --> 0:56:42.400
<v Speaker 3>point difference. Once again, That's why I keeps trying to

0:56:42.400 --> 0:56:45.200
<v Speaker 3>say the mac Jones thing. I think it's closer than

0:56:45.239 --> 0:56:48.120
<v Speaker 3>you realize. They're not that different playing in the Shanehanne system.

0:56:48.239 --> 0:56:50.840
<v Speaker 3>And last week, I mean mac Jones, I think he

0:56:50.920 --> 0:56:52.799
<v Speaker 3>was perfect. He was like fifteen to fifteen to start

0:56:52.840 --> 0:56:55.560
<v Speaker 3>the game, so we've seen it. He can push the

0:56:55.560 --> 0:56:57.799
<v Speaker 3>ball down feeling like you said, that's the nervous part

0:56:57.800 --> 0:56:59.520
<v Speaker 3>here is we're back in the fortn Iris team that

0:56:59.560 --> 0:57:03.279
<v Speaker 3>just has another thing left. Defensively, by far, the best

0:57:03.320 --> 0:57:05.040
<v Speaker 3>offense they've played since they've lost.

0:57:05.080 --> 0:57:08.680
<v Speaker 4>Spread like that Atlanta totally knows, showed they haven't really

0:57:08.719 --> 0:57:09.120
<v Speaker 4>had a test.

0:57:09.160 --> 0:57:11.319
<v Speaker 3>Right. It went Atlanta, Houston and the Giants. That's not

0:57:11.480 --> 0:57:16.440
<v Speaker 3>three juggernaut of offenses. So you're right for your skepticism.

0:57:16.480 --> 0:57:18.600
<v Speaker 3>I just this feels like the type of games of

0:57:18.640 --> 0:57:21.080
<v Speaker 3>the Rams just lay an egg on, especially the fact

0:57:21.120 --> 0:57:22.600
<v Speaker 3>that this is going to be one of the bigger

0:57:22.640 --> 0:57:23.640
<v Speaker 3>public sides of the week.

0:57:24.480 --> 0:57:28.320
<v Speaker 4>People are quick to forget this Rams team lost to

0:57:28.400 --> 0:57:30.640
<v Speaker 4>this forty nine Ers team.

0:57:30.560 --> 0:57:32.919
<v Speaker 3>On a short week at home as an eight point

0:57:32.960 --> 0:57:34.240
<v Speaker 3>favorite by three, So.

0:57:36.440 --> 0:57:38.760
<v Speaker 4>It's a tough thing. Here is the line moved too much?

0:57:39.160 --> 0:57:42.200
<v Speaker 3>Like the forty nine Ers have only gotten worse and

0:57:42.240 --> 0:57:44.880
<v Speaker 3>lost more players since then. The Rams have only looked

0:57:44.920 --> 0:57:47.720
<v Speaker 3>better and you know, played better since then.

0:57:47.800 --> 0:57:50.600
<v Speaker 4>So I think the books are trying to tell us

0:57:50.640 --> 0:57:51.360
<v Speaker 4>something here, Chad.

0:57:51.480 --> 0:57:53.120
<v Speaker 3>So, like I said something night, I would take the

0:57:53.200 --> 0:57:55.880
<v Speaker 3>Rams of minus three because I just saw it moving

0:57:55.920 --> 0:57:58.480
<v Speaker 3>this way. But I said, I feel like I'm gonna

0:57:58.480 --> 0:58:00.160
<v Speaker 3>have to end up on this forty other side. I'm

0:58:00.200 --> 0:58:02.200
<v Speaker 3>gonna have to be on the side. So I know

0:58:02.440 --> 0:58:04.800
<v Speaker 3>it's it's gross, but I gotta hold I gotta hold

0:58:04.840 --> 0:58:06.440
<v Speaker 3>it here and say we got to take forty nine

0:58:06.520 --> 0:58:07.560
<v Speaker 3>Ers plus three.

0:58:07.400 --> 0:58:07.680
<v Speaker 2>And a half.

0:58:07.760 --> 0:58:10.480
<v Speaker 1>What's so funny about this game is on Sunday night,

0:58:11.720 --> 0:58:13.520
<v Speaker 1>I was all over the Niners.

0:58:13.920 --> 0:58:14.919
<v Speaker 4>Were you yeah?

0:58:15.280 --> 0:58:15.880
<v Speaker 2>During the show.

0:58:16.800 --> 0:58:18.200
<v Speaker 1>I like, as soon as I saw it, I'm like,

0:58:18.840 --> 0:58:20.720
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I got to take the Niners at.

0:58:20.640 --> 0:58:23.080
<v Speaker 4>Three folks too, we know that much. You are supposed

0:58:23.080 --> 0:58:24.080
<v Speaker 4>to take the Niners.

0:58:23.840 --> 0:58:27.480
<v Speaker 1>Year, And like all the work I did yesterday just

0:58:27.560 --> 0:58:30.720
<v Speaker 1>made me think, how are they going to stop Matthew

0:58:30.720 --> 0:58:36.160
<v Speaker 1>Stafford And how is Christian McCaffrey going to gain any yards?

0:58:37.720 --> 0:58:42.120
<v Speaker 2>I just like forgetting about the number, just looking at

0:58:42.160 --> 0:58:43.840
<v Speaker 2>the schemes. It's a tricky.

0:58:44.240 --> 0:58:46.520
<v Speaker 1>It's a tricky one. We'll talk about it on Thursday

0:58:46.840 --> 0:58:48.000
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more.

0:58:47.960 --> 0:58:51.000
<v Speaker 3>And I'll say this, I love our fans, especially like

0:58:51.000 --> 0:58:53.120
<v Speaker 3>the ones who listened to us and our dinner offseason

0:58:53.200 --> 0:58:57.520
<v Speaker 3>show this summer. I said I was not investing any

0:58:57.560 --> 0:58:59.560
<v Speaker 3>money in to Puka Nakua and I was invested in

0:58:59.560 --> 0:59:01.880
<v Speaker 3>Devata Adams. I feel like that was the value in

0:59:01.920 --> 0:59:05.400
<v Speaker 3>fantasy football. Puka started out incredibly, but he's been banged

0:59:05.440 --> 0:59:08.880
<v Speaker 3>up a lot. Yeah again in receiving touchdowns, Chad, here

0:59:08.920 --> 0:59:12.240
<v Speaker 3>we are through nine weeks Adams Vante Adams eight touchdowns.

0:59:12.240 --> 0:59:15.840
<v Speaker 3>So it's it was just all about value and playing

0:59:15.840 --> 0:59:17.560
<v Speaker 3>this in air and I just love that matchup with

0:59:17.640 --> 0:59:19.400
<v Speaker 3>him and Stafford. It's like I knew Stafford was gonna

0:59:19.440 --> 0:59:22.360
<v Speaker 3>love having a guy like him who's so smooth and

0:59:22.400 --> 0:59:25.680
<v Speaker 3>precise a running routes. And yeah, I'm not gonna lie.

0:59:25.720 --> 0:59:28.040
<v Speaker 3>It is scary betting against this Rams team right now,

0:59:28.080 --> 0:59:31.040
<v Speaker 3>but this feels like such a spot, such a spot

0:59:31.080 --> 0:59:33.240
<v Speaker 3>to go against them, So yeah, I'm interesting what the

0:59:33.240 --> 0:59:35.960
<v Speaker 3>professionals do with this line. Early money obviously has come

0:59:35.960 --> 0:59:38.600
<v Speaker 3>in pretty heavy on this Rams team all right.

0:59:38.640 --> 0:59:41.480
<v Speaker 1>Time for the prime time spot, lies Chacking taking a

0:59:41.480 --> 0:59:44.680
<v Speaker 1>look at our Island games. Pittsburgh is visiting the Chargers.

0:59:44.680 --> 0:59:46.360
<v Speaker 1>The line has moved from three and a half down

0:59:46.400 --> 0:59:49.280
<v Speaker 1>to three. Another stinky line. Not stinky, but just another

0:59:49.480 --> 0:59:54.360
<v Speaker 1>bad line that the bookmaker's posted on Sunday night. Forget

0:59:54.360 --> 0:59:57.560
<v Speaker 1>about it being a raw round. Mike Tomlin spot, how

0:59:57.600 --> 0:59:59.880
<v Speaker 1>are the Chargers going to protect Justin Herbert? We see

0:59:59.880 --> 1:00:03.760
<v Speaker 1>it every single week. They're out. Joe Alt is now

1:00:03.800 --> 1:00:06.400
<v Speaker 1>out for the season. Bobby Hart, who was supposed to

1:00:06.400 --> 1:00:09.160
<v Speaker 1>be an off the street sort of backup, turned into

1:00:09.160 --> 1:00:11.760
<v Speaker 1>one of their better offensive linemen. He pulled his growing

1:00:12.360 --> 1:00:16.760
<v Speaker 1>status unknown for this weekend. The Steelers did do things

1:00:16.880 --> 1:00:19.840
<v Speaker 1>defensively against the Colts that I think were new and

1:00:19.880 --> 1:00:22.120
<v Speaker 1>they were the reasons why we were sometimes afraid to

1:00:22.160 --> 1:00:25.280
<v Speaker 1>bet them. They stopped playing so much man with Jalen Ramsey,

1:00:25.560 --> 1:00:28.480
<v Speaker 1>they moved him to safety. They got Kyle Dugger from

1:00:28.520 --> 1:00:31.800
<v Speaker 1>the from I think the Patriots, right and they played

1:00:31.840 --> 1:00:34.240
<v Speaker 1>him a lot in the game. So now they put

1:00:34.240 --> 1:00:36.640
<v Speaker 1>all this stuff on film so people can see that

1:00:36.680 --> 1:00:39.520
<v Speaker 1>they were playing zone and it's not going to be

1:00:39.960 --> 1:00:45.920
<v Speaker 1>confusing to anybody. But the bigger issue is just the

1:00:46.000 --> 1:00:51.000
<v Speaker 1>Chargers cannot protect Justin Herbert and if TJ. Watt Alex

1:00:51.040 --> 1:00:55.560
<v Speaker 1>Highsmith can do anything against this chief, this Charger's offensive line,

1:00:56.080 --> 1:00:57.560
<v Speaker 1>he's just going to be running for his life the

1:00:57.680 --> 1:00:58.240
<v Speaker 1>entire game.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I hate this game so much. I'm not gonna lie.

1:01:02.720 --> 1:01:07.240
<v Speaker 3>It's your early read on Someday was so right. It

1:01:07.240 --> 1:01:10.080
<v Speaker 3>was a Pittsburgh number three and a half. Now, if

1:01:10.080 --> 1:01:11.840
<v Speaker 3>you went three and a half, it's like minus one thirty.

1:01:11.880 --> 1:01:15.040
<v Speaker 3>That's just totally gone hard rock here in Jersey's already

1:01:15.040 --> 1:01:16.720
<v Speaker 3>moved to two and a half minus two and a

1:01:16.760 --> 1:01:21.880
<v Speaker 3>half now, wow, So it's kind of becoming a Chargers line. Shockingly,

1:01:22.080 --> 1:01:24.520
<v Speaker 3>my model had this had a pick so like a

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<v Speaker 3>ton of value to this other team. I think that's

1:01:27.120 --> 1:01:30.840
<v Speaker 3>what you're saying. It's like, maybe I'm underestimating the value

1:01:31.240 --> 1:01:33.600
<v Speaker 3>of Joe Alt and this offensive line, how important it

1:01:33.680 --> 1:01:36.600
<v Speaker 3>is to success not only Herbert but that running attack,

1:01:36.640 --> 1:01:39.560
<v Speaker 3>which if you can't get that going against its Pittsburgh team,

1:01:39.640 --> 1:01:41.880
<v Speaker 3>they make you one dimensional. Yeah, there are ways Pittsburgh

1:01:41.880 --> 1:01:44.520
<v Speaker 3>can defensively play really well, right when they know you

1:01:44.560 --> 1:01:47.480
<v Speaker 3>have to pass. You got guys like Watt up front.

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<v Speaker 3>That's gonna be a huge deal, right, and he can

1:01:49.200 --> 1:01:52.600
<v Speaker 3>just spin his years back. But I just I'm having

1:01:52.600 --> 1:01:54.520
<v Speaker 3>a hard time getting there on Pittsburgh get two and

1:01:54.600 --> 1:01:57.120
<v Speaker 3>a half. At three, I can get there three and

1:01:57.160 --> 1:01:59.080
<v Speaker 3>a half. I'm all the way there. But at two

1:01:59.120 --> 1:02:01.960
<v Speaker 3>and a half, I'm slowly starting to be like, isn't

1:02:01.960 --> 1:02:04.000
<v Speaker 3>this a Chargers line? At what point does this become

1:02:04.000 --> 1:02:06.160
<v Speaker 3>a Chargers line? Because to me, they are still the

1:02:06.200 --> 1:02:10.880
<v Speaker 3>better team. And I just even last week it took

1:02:10.960 --> 1:02:13.160
<v Speaker 3>five turnovers and a ton of things go their way

1:02:13.200 --> 1:02:14.720
<v Speaker 3>for Pittsburgh to kind of win that game.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I don't know.

1:02:16.720 --> 1:02:18.400
<v Speaker 3>It feels like we have a pattern here with Pittsburgh

1:02:18.440 --> 1:02:20.440
<v Speaker 3>this year. Right, the games they win, they have tons

1:02:20.480 --> 1:02:24.960
<v Speaker 3>of turnover luck because it's just you know, it's a

1:02:25.120 --> 1:02:27.960
<v Speaker 3>dysfunctional defense. Like we said, teams can get theirs against them,

1:02:28.000 --> 1:02:30.760
<v Speaker 3>they're gonna give up yards. Can they win the turnover battle?

1:02:30.760 --> 1:02:34.200
<v Speaker 3>That's how they're gonna steal games. So Herbert, it should

1:02:34.200 --> 1:02:35.960
<v Speaker 3>be a great Herbert game and spot for Herbert. But

1:02:36.000 --> 1:02:39.560
<v Speaker 3>like you said, if he has a third stringer going

1:02:39.640 --> 1:02:42.160
<v Speaker 3>up against what, I don't care how much you're chipping

1:02:42.200 --> 1:02:44.640
<v Speaker 3>with the tight end or the running back. Someone's getting

1:02:44.640 --> 1:02:46.920
<v Speaker 3>a one on one against the really bast suspect backup

1:02:46.960 --> 1:02:48.320
<v Speaker 3>on that offensive line, they're gonna win.

1:02:48.400 --> 1:02:49.720
<v Speaker 4>So I'm with you.

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<v Speaker 3>If you can get the plus three on Pittsburgh, that's

1:02:51.560 --> 1:02:54.320
<v Speaker 3>probably the line to get right now. But I'm really

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<v Speaker 3>not too favorable of either of these sides right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Last game on the board Philadelphia at green Bay. Green

1:03:10.200 --> 1:03:12.640
<v Speaker 1>Bay's at two and a half point favorite. It's got

1:03:12.680 --> 1:03:14.600
<v Speaker 1>to be green Bay. This has to be the by

1:03:14.720 --> 1:03:19.640
<v Speaker 1>low Sell high spot. I know the Eagles have traded

1:03:19.680 --> 1:03:22.200
<v Speaker 1>for done half the trades, you know, how we go

1:03:22.280 --> 1:03:25.640
<v Speaker 1>and how we before the trade deadline. They've added Jalen

1:03:25.680 --> 1:03:29.960
<v Speaker 1>Phillips from the Dolphins. They added Jared Alexander the cornerback

1:03:30.000 --> 1:03:33.320
<v Speaker 1>who had been buried on the Ravens bench. I don't

1:03:33.360 --> 1:03:35.120
<v Speaker 1>know if that's going to be the solution to their

1:03:35.880 --> 1:03:41.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, second cornerback need on the edge. But we've

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<v Speaker 1>just seen the Packers lose to the Panthers at home,

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<v Speaker 1>in which the Panthers defense was great, but like you

1:03:48.280 --> 1:03:51.640
<v Speaker 1>pointed out, the Packers did not punt in that game.

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<v Speaker 1>That was self inflicted, entirely by the Packers. Meanwhile, the Eagles,

1:03:58.000 --> 1:04:02.840
<v Speaker 1>they're like, they're looking like champions the last couple of

1:04:02.840 --> 1:04:06.040
<v Speaker 1>weeks so and they got to buy. So I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>little surprised that this is under two and a half

1:04:10.160 --> 1:04:12.440
<v Speaker 1>because it feels like such a Packer's line. I'm actually

1:04:12.480 --> 1:04:13.720
<v Speaker 1>surprised it hasn't moved to three.

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<v Speaker 4>And we always said heart hard rocks sharp book here

1:04:17.680 --> 1:04:22.240
<v Speaker 4>in Jersey. They just hit two. So really, Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 4>there's some professional money.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously, he's coming on the Eagles, and that's I knew.

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<v Speaker 3>We saw it Sunday night. I knew this gonna be

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<v Speaker 3>the most public dog of the week, and you know,

1:04:31.800 --> 1:04:33.800
<v Speaker 3>public dogs do hit. Like the Bills were the number

1:04:33.840 --> 1:04:36.120
<v Speaker 3>one public dog last week. They came to no problem.

1:04:36.240 --> 1:04:40.160
<v Speaker 3>So this Eagles team everything you said is so true.

1:04:40.440 --> 1:04:42.520
<v Speaker 3>They could be getting in to form here. I'm walking

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<v Speaker 3>into it.

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<v Speaker 4>I just.

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<v Speaker 3>I like to think that the Screen Bay team is

1:04:48.520 --> 1:04:51.280
<v Speaker 3>better than what we've seen, and when they play against

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<v Speaker 3>certain competition, they're another team to plays the level of

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<v Speaker 3>that competition.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, how many times we've seen.

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<v Speaker 3>This year they play well against really good teams and

1:05:00.240 --> 1:05:03.959
<v Speaker 3>then lay total eggs against suspect teams like that Browns game.

1:05:04.480 --> 1:05:06.480
<v Speaker 3>That was a really suspect loss, and that was once

1:05:06.520 --> 1:05:07.640
<v Speaker 3>again on Jordan Love.

1:05:07.720 --> 1:05:08.680
<v Speaker 4>He gave that game away.

1:05:09.480 --> 1:05:11.520
<v Speaker 3>How do you not blame Jordan Love for that Carolina loss?

1:05:11.560 --> 1:05:13.520
<v Speaker 3>He gave that game away. He just made so many

1:05:13.560 --> 1:05:17.480
<v Speaker 3>bad mistakes. So I know, I love this one. Sunday,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm kind of flipping towards the Eagles. Unfortunately, I'm getting

1:05:20.400 --> 1:05:23.360
<v Speaker 3>kind of getting pushed into it. I want to hold

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<v Speaker 3>firm here what the professionals are saying here, I'll see

1:05:26.320 --> 1:05:28.480
<v Speaker 3>what other guys are saying. But as right now, a

1:05:28.520 --> 1:05:30.200
<v Speaker 3>couple of pros I talk to they do like the

1:05:30.200 --> 1:05:32.400
<v Speaker 3>Eagles here. They like the number, especially with the hook

1:05:32.440 --> 1:05:35.080
<v Speaker 3>at two and a half. But it doesn't just feel

1:05:35.120 --> 1:05:37.200
<v Speaker 3>like a stinky line. This should be a Green Bay

1:05:37.240 --> 1:05:41.680
<v Speaker 3>spot so I'm gonna dive more into this one right now. Again,

1:05:42.160 --> 1:05:43.920
<v Speaker 3>can't can't get much from the model that my model

1:05:43.920 --> 1:05:47.240
<v Speaker 3>has this one and minus one Green Bay. So tankicly

1:05:47.320 --> 1:05:50.280
<v Speaker 3>is egos line. But I just think something's real trappy

1:05:50.280 --> 1:05:54.480
<v Speaker 3>about this game. And yeah, this Eagles teams championship for him,

1:05:54.520 --> 1:05:55.440
<v Speaker 3>Like you said, they've looked.

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<v Speaker 4>This is gonna be a true test.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a really good Green Bay team on the

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<v Speaker 3>road after an embarrassing loss. You expect Laflor to get

1:06:02.520 --> 1:06:03.600
<v Speaker 3>these guys to bounce back.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, that's exactly yet, all right.

1:06:06.840 --> 1:06:08.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, we're gonna have a lot to talk about

1:06:08.160 --> 1:06:10.200
<v Speaker 1>on Thursday because we got a lot a The trade

1:06:10.200 --> 1:06:11.800
<v Speaker 1>deadline I think is impacting some of this.

1:06:11.880 --> 1:06:13.400
<v Speaker 2>We want to see where players end up.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously, even while we were talking about this, we were

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<v Speaker 1>considering the Jets and then they trade Sauce Gardner Denver

1:06:20.600 --> 1:06:23.600
<v Speaker 1>minus eight and a half, as Simon says, we're thinking

1:06:23.640 --> 1:06:27.280
<v Speaker 1>about Miami plus nine and a half, the Giants plus

1:06:27.280 --> 1:06:30.400
<v Speaker 1>three and a half against the Bears on the road Carolina.

1:06:31.200 --> 1:06:33.160
<v Speaker 1>We'd like it to wait to four and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>We hope it gets there. Jets minus one and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked about we were hoping to get Houston. We

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<v Speaker 1>were hoping to get it at one and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>Who Tampa Bay minus two and a half. That is

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<v Speaker 1>Chad's choice. Would you say Baltimore at four is still

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<v Speaker 1>a playable number?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't hate it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just again, I think we had PTSD from last

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<v Speaker 3>week where it's like we're betting a super public favorite

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<v Speaker 3>on the road. That's what I'm trying to tell people.

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<v Speaker 3>I you can get I'm more comfortable in the money line.

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<v Speaker 3>I know it's not great because it's two to one

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<v Speaker 3>on your money, but I just I don't know. If

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<v Speaker 3>I bet two hundred and one hundred, what I feel

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<v Speaker 3>is a pretty safe bet.

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<v Speaker 4>I usually take that position.

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<v Speaker 2>We'd like Houston to get to plus one.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, please you to get to a dog Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Detroit minus eight and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see San Francisco plus three and a half, itchy,

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<v Speaker 1>and then Green Bay minus two and a half. We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to keep an eye on. So still a lot

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<v Speaker 1>to discuss on Thursday. There's too much movement right now

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