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Speaker 1: Welcome to Sharper Square, presented by hard Rock Bat. We

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Speaker 1: are part of the Volume podcast Network. This is the

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Speaker 1: show that makes the squares sharper and mix. The wise

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Speaker 1: guys pay attention. I am Chad Millman.

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Speaker 2: I am joined as always by my co.

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Speaker 1: Host, my bff, my companion, my campadre professional better Simon Hunter.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Simon, Chad.

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Speaker 3: I woke a little sad today. I think we only

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Speaker 3: have three months left a football brother. I can't believe

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Speaker 3: it's flying by this fast.

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Speaker 1: When I started making notes for the show yesterday, you know,

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Speaker 1: I title all my notes columns like Sharp week XX Tuesday, Thursday,

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Speaker 1: Sunday AM, Sunday PM. When I wrote week ten, it

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Speaker 1: was shocking to me, like the on ramp to joining

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Speaker 1: the Volume was so sudden. And then to now be

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Speaker 1: ten weeks into this thing and the season be more

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Speaker 1: than halfway over.

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Speaker 2: Is I'm already kind of sad.

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Speaker 1: It always hits me when you know after the clock

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Speaker 1: changes and by the four thirty games it's dark, and

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Speaker 1: I know when I take the garbage out later, it's

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Speaker 1: going to be cold and dark, and it's going to

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Speaker 1: be like that, And the only thing that makes me

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Speaker 1: happy on a Sunday is the football, and that's like

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Speaker 2: That's no fun.

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Speaker 4: I know.

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Speaker 3: I'm an other way though, as a guy who's overweight,

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Speaker 3: this is overweight man season, got it bundled up. I

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Speaker 3: love Thanksgiving again a big guy. Love Christmas like I

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Speaker 3: love this time of year with football, it actually matters

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Speaker 3: and the games matter like that Bill's Chiefs game. I

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Speaker 3: feel like the first real playoffs tone center of this season,

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Speaker 3: Like it's got me right into the mood of November

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Speaker 3: December foot Well, so I'm with you.

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Speaker 4: I obviously I'm a flip flop guy.

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Speaker 3: I love the warm weather, but this is the best

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Speaker 3: like as a football fan, as a as a cold

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Speaker 1: How much weight will you actually gain during overweight season?

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Speaker 3: I don't because I pack it on like I stress

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Speaker 3: a hardcore. September we had a rough We had a

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Speaker 3: nervous September because we had to do well. Yeah, we

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Speaker 4: But yeah, September, that was a tough month for your boy.

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Speaker 3: I was stress eating because I just couldn't sleep. Like

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Speaker 3: that's the hardest part. If you can't sleep, you just

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Speaker 3: eat and you knock out. You know it is if

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Speaker 3: Like I'll just see a bowl of pasta and I'm out.

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Speaker 3: Pasta is literally the worst thing you can possibly eat.

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Speaker 2: You're eating a bowl of pasta at like midnight or like.

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Speaker 3: Four in the morning, Like I've worked all night. I

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Speaker 3: Like I can't stop looking at the numbers. I think

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Speaker 3: what I'm missing. So yeah, now it's all good.

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Speaker 2: Dude.

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Speaker 1: I haven't eaten a bowla pasta period, let alone pasta

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Speaker 1: at four in the morning. Wow, that's crazy.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm in an unfair spot. I have a

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Speaker 4: I'm with you. I was on a late night pasta

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Speaker 4: guy either until I met this man. I'm just addicted

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Speaker 1: I'd like to meet him, see what he can do.

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Speaker 1: If he can turn me into a late night pasta day.

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Speaker 1: All right, listen, it's been about forty hours since our

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Speaker 1: worst week of the season. Talk about stress. It took

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Speaker 1: can start looking at these numbers again. Unfortunately, a lot

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Speaker 1: of these numbers were already moving from what we talked

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Speaker 1: about on Sunday night in the direction we thought we

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Speaker 1: would they would go. Reminder, we went one and four

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Speaker 1: last week in our five favorite picks. We won with

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Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons, we lost with the Chargers, Texans, Lions,

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Speaker 1: and Chiefs. Four favorites did us in. Clearly we over corrected.

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Speaker 1: What's making me feel worse a lot of favorites that

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Speaker 1: I like this week. For the year, we are twenty

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Speaker 1: five and twenty through nine weeks with our five favorite picks.

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Speaker 1: This is our Tuesday show. We will review the entire slate.

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Speaker 1: It is our first Tuesday Show of November.

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Speaker 4: No them but can be cold and gray.

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Speaker 5: No them that can be surly, With bitter rain upon

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Speaker 5: the world and winter coming early. Do you fear the

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Speaker 5: force of the wind, the slash of the rain. Go

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Speaker 5: face them and fight them. Be savage again. The palms

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Speaker 5: of your hands will thicken, the skin of your cheek

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Speaker 5: will can You'll grow ragged and weary and wet.

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Speaker 4: But you must do the best you can.

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Speaker 2: Make sure you check out the Sunday Am show if

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Speaker 2: you want.

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Speaker 1: The games that will be our official five after we've

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Speaker 1: had a chance to review the latest line moves injuries

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Speaker 1: this week. That will also include any impact from trades.

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Speaker 1: wherever you get your pause. All right, got a Thursday

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Speaker 1: night game and I think you and I both have

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Speaker 1: a strong opinion on this Las Vegas at Denver the

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Speaker 1: Denver Broncos currently eight and a half. The first note

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Speaker 1: I made on this game, no hesitation, Give me the Broncos.

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Speaker 2: What say you?

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Speaker 3: Shaker Chad Simon says, give me the Broncos minus eight

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Speaker 3: and a half.

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Speaker 1: I am Simon says, Broncos minus eight and a half

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Speaker 1: presented by hard Rock Bett.

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Speaker 4: I want to play a game.

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Speaker 2: Simon says.

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Speaker 1: It is a little shocking. I don't know we've ever

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Speaker 3: Simon says, I've done them, but it's shocking I would

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Speaker 3: take this big of a favorite, honestly divisional game when

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Speaker 3: we just talked about how we need to get back

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Speaker 3: to our dog ways. It's it's really about the number

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Speaker 3: this game as a week as long. Here see where

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 3: They're already traded Jacobe Myers this morning for a pick,

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Speaker 4: So I think that was a give it all game

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Speaker 3: And we talk all the time situationally, there's certain opportunities

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Speaker 4: This feels like a rare opportunity.

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Speaker 3: Do you have a Raiders team that played a really

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Speaker 3: It's pretty easy numbers to find teams in this exact spot.

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Speaker 3: But this is the type of game where the Raiders team,

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Speaker 4: This is exact game that Bonnicks just blows out teams like.

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Speaker 3: It's a bad Raiders defense that's really bad against quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: Even going back and rewatching that Raiders game, it just

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Speaker 4: Nothing Gino did in that game give me more confidence.

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Speaker 1: O Simon, this might have been. There's probably three games

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Speaker 2: This was one of them.

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Speaker 1: Everything about this to me screamed, get right spot for

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Speaker 1: the Broncos. A much better defense, a Raiders defense that

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Speaker 1: In that Jacksonville game, Trayvon Walker left the game because

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Speaker 3: six down. But hard Rock they're showing us they've already

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Speaker 4: But man, we joke.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, got away with it because of Drake London. That

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Speaker 1: But it's also why we bet it, Like knowing he

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Speaker 1: Michael Pennix has. I'm with you, like, I don't want

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Speaker 4: He's a rookie saying he's a rookie. Yeah, so second year.

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Speaker 1: So right, uh, all right, we'll put a pin in

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Speaker 2: I don't I don't like. That's why I was wishy washing.

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Speaker 4: That much like the pros hit it that hard in

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Speaker 3: So, like you said, it's it's very clear what position

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Speaker 2: Are on hard rock, a sneaky sharp book.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they're always ahead of the line. Movement's pretty well.

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Speaker 2: It's pretty interesting. Good indicator.

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Speaker 1: Buffalo at Miami, Miami is a nine and a half

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Speaker 2: I don't know, Like.

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Speaker 4: We'll throw I know it's not that down.

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Speaker 3: Then if you're gonna do something like that, get them

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Speaker 3: Well, it's just it's also a little bit of an

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Speaker 4: And I don't know. It's like, like I was talking

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Speaker 3: My dream scenario again these trades never happened, would be

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Speaker 4: That's like the perfect matchup.

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Speaker 3: But I talk to people on AAM and they're like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: Back door covered it whatever it was.

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Speaker 3: But just looking at this line, you're right, like, we

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna force it in to be one of my

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Speaker 4: Half some books touch ten.

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Speaker 3: I'll take Miami, but god, it's I just it's hard

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Speaker 3: So I'm going to be it's hard to trust this

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Speaker 3: this past Sunday, now going on the road to play

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Speaker 3: Once again, not going to force it in, but I

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Speaker 1: So I think what's interesting here that we got to

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Speaker 2: We just talked about it with the Raiders.

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Speaker 1: We saw the Miami has already traded Jalen Phillips to

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Speaker 2: I think you're right.

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Speaker 1: The Dolphins are the right side here, they're the play.

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Speaker 1: But I kind of want to wait until I know

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Speaker 4: And we don't really want to do it again.

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Speaker 3: There's tens out there people, you can grab the tens

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Speaker 3: if you want, But it's like, I don't want to.

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Speaker 2: Bet the Dolphins. Yeah, you know who else?

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Speaker 1: I don't want to bet the Chicago Bears a minus

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Speaker 1: three and a half against the New York Football Giants.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I love Ben Johnson.

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Speaker 4: I love him.

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Speaker 3: Bet your bottom dollar you lose the Blues and Chicago chicag.

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Speaker 1: The other day in the Chicago text chain that there

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Speaker 1: It said, at the top is it's so over the

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Speaker 1: we're back. Like that's the life cycle of a Bears

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Speaker 1: He just drops in we got some stuff to work on.

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Speaker 2: We're going to talk about that tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Today we are going to celebrate our win because it's

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Speaker 1: team believes in him. Whether or not Caleb can do it,

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Speaker 1: get us to the super Bowl, by the way, Simon,

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Speaker 1: because that's how I think about it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 2: I love Ben Johnson. Here's my problem. Let me take

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Speaker 2: you through this game.

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Speaker 1: This defense is so bad, like if not for the

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Speaker 1: that game. And this is the kind of defense that

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Speaker 1: They're especially bad at under erneath passes, Like if you

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Speaker 1: and they're only wins by margin this year are the

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Speaker 3: Here, Yeah, And that's that's why they're goin to just

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Speaker 3: because it's like, you guys only beat horrible, terrible teams, right,

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Speaker 3: and that's reflected this year. And that's why you should

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Speaker 3: beating the difference because bad teams don't beat bad teams, right, Like,

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Speaker 3: the exact type of team you want to face if

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Speaker 3: me want to take the Giants. You don't have the

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Speaker 3: another game you can easily get burned, like just like

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Speaker 3: the Dolphins. But it feels like got to get back

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Speaker 3: to old ways. Supposed to bet the Bears here, I

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Speaker 3: I think they'll be able to move the ball anytime

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Speaker 3: That didn't you guys just lose another when you're another

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's just bad. You guys are just having

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Speaker 3: a brutal injury bug. So yeah, it's anytime your defense

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00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,080
Speaker 3: gives a forty two points to Joe Flacco. I know

441
00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,080
Speaker 3: it's lazy talk to say, yeah, there are a bad defense.

442
00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,240
Speaker 3: We gotta fade them here with Dart, But it's just

443
00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,360
Speaker 3: to be just to bring it back to the number.

444
00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,920
Speaker 3: That's what we're trying to say here. It's that's that's

445
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:02,240
Speaker 3: the point.

446
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:02,520
Speaker 4: Sing.

447
00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,080
Speaker 3: Your defense is so bad, I don't know if you

448
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,760
Speaker 3: can carry a minus three and a half favorite right now.

449
00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,359
Speaker 3: So yeah, plus three and a half. I guess I

450
00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 3: got to do the Giants, but I don't feel great

451
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,639
Speaker 3: about it. They just no scataboo all the injuries. It

452
00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:15,960
Speaker 3: just it's really catch it up to that offense in

453
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,400
Speaker 3: the last two weeks, they've just not looked the same now.

454
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:23,280
Speaker 1: But look, to me, there's a similarity here to the

455
00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:24,240
Speaker 1: Commanders and.

456
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,520
Speaker 2: How they played.

457
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 1: The Bears and their ability to use Jayden Daniels and

458
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,200
Speaker 1: have them split the defense and run up the middle

459
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:35,320
Speaker 1: sort of these these design draws and also if the

460
00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 1: pass rush gets too far upfield, he finds a hole

461
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,200
Speaker 1: through the middle. Like that's what Jackson Dart is really

462
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,440
Speaker 1: good at and he's been really.

463
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:44,200
Speaker 2: Really accurate this year.

464
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:48,840
Speaker 1: So I think there's so much room underneath for the

465
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 1: Giants to find receivers that they basically just have possession receivers.

466
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,399
Speaker 2: You know. So I worry.

467
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:56,760
Speaker 1: I worry, and that's why I want to be on

468
00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:02,080
Speaker 1: the Giants. New Orleans at the Carolina Panthers, Panthers and

469
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 1: minus five. You mentioned the Panthers on Sunday en it

470
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 1: as a game you liked. We've all thankfully moved on

471
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:14,639
Speaker 1: from the Saints are competitive phase of the season we've entered.

472
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 1: We love the Panthers phase of the season. We know

473
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 1: the Panthers are going to want to run the ball

474
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 1: with Rico Daudell. It's how they have won big games

475
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:32,239
Speaker 1: on the road this year, and we know they are

476
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:38,159
Speaker 1: better at home. Saints d bottom five in the league

477
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,679
Speaker 1: is a rush defense, like across every metric, right, so

478
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 1: there is a clear advantage. I will say this number

479
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 1: is flirting with a Saints line. I'm not saying it is,

480
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,360
Speaker 1: but I do think it's flirting with it A five

481
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:54,919
Speaker 1: and a half. It definitely was, which is why it's

482
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:56,880
Speaker 1: moved to five. That's what it was on Sunday five

483
00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:00,240
Speaker 1: and a half. But that's the one thing that me

484
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,880
Speaker 1: nervous is that we so love the Saints and we've

485
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:07,159
Speaker 1: been getting burned by favorites this past week. Are we

486
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 1: clouded right now?

487
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 2: Yeah?

488
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,639
Speaker 3: And it's a Carolina team that we already love, coming

489
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,159
Speaker 3: off the biggest win they've had as a franchise and

490
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,120
Speaker 3: since Cam Newton, is that fair to say, like this

491
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 3: is this win put them to five wins, five and

492
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 3: four in the NFC outside chance in a wildcard. They're

493
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,360
Speaker 3: like the Bears, Like it's just two teams that need

494
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 3: desperately to win these games. And anytime you can steal

495
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:34,400
Speaker 3: a game like that is Caroline. Like we said, Bryce

496
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 3: Seong through for one hundred yards. I don't know if

497
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,959
Speaker 3: we're buying them at their peak. Like I think that

498
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,400
Speaker 3: they were a good team that stole that game last week.

499
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,680
Speaker 3: Like I saw some crazy stats I didn't even realize.

500
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 3: I wish I had mentioned on Sunday. They did not

501
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,119
Speaker 3: punt Green Bay in that game. They didn't punt the

502
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,879
Speaker 3: entire game. That's so crazy. When you go back and

503
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 3: rewatch it, it's like they had their opportunities. Carolina is just

504
00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:01,359
Speaker 3: a good team and they're well coached. Shockingly so, Tyler

505
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,119
Speaker 3: Shuck is terrible. Like I watched a lot of that

506
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,400
Speaker 3: Rams game. There's no way he gives him a better

507
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 3: chance than Spencer Rattler. And you know that's just a

508
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:15,399
Speaker 3: draft pick you make because he never played really in college,

509
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 3: and when he did play, you saw a lot of big,

510
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,640
Speaker 3: big time ARNT talent. But I think he's like an

511
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,680
Speaker 3: old man at this point. He's already like twenty five

512
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:25,200
Speaker 3: or twenty six, which is old in football years, and he's.

513
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 4: Got happy feet.

514
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 3: I just really, I just like you, I wanted to

515
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 3: avoid this game because it's like I am I overvaluing this.

516
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:35,439
Speaker 3: My model has it at seven, so at least I'm

517
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 3: getting a good number must when my computer thinks when

518
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 3: I'm like, like you, the alarm bells are ringing here,

519
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 3: Am I overvaluing this team? But I like this match

520
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,439
Speaker 3: for the Panthers, and I just don't see how New

521
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 3: Orleans Saints' offense can keep up with this Panthers team

522
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 3: where this is a get right game for them, because

523
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,479
Speaker 3: like you said, the Saints struggle against the run. That

524
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 3: just sets up Bryce Young to push the ball downfield

525
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 3: once those safeties drop in. That's what he's been so

526
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 3: great at this year is finally there's open windows downfield.

527
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,120
Speaker 3: I like dismetch a lot for the Panthers. So interesting

528
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 3: line movement a couple of books. Yeah, popped minus four

529
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 3: and a half on the Panthers. So like Chad's saying,

530
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 3: professionals are coming on the Saints, not gonna rush in

531
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:16,360
Speaker 3: that take on minus five.

532
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,239
Speaker 4: It's not that big of a key number. So if

533
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 4: moves the four and a half, I'll grab it.

534
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 3: If it goes back up to five and a half

535
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 3: in its trending towards six, I'll come in and grab

536
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 3: the five and a half. So yeah, no bet for

537
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:26,680
Speaker 3: me yet on this game. Just watching the line movement,

538
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:27,400
Speaker 3: see where it goes.

539
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 1: Bryce Young consistently is becoming one of those players who

540
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,879
Speaker 1: you love to have when the Panthers are an underdog.

541
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 1: He's a gamer, and like his athleticism is showing shining through.

542
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 1: We start to see it last year, it's carried over

543
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,160
Speaker 1: into this year. He keeps his head up when he's

544
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 1: running around the pocket, he's looking down field. He's making

545
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:53,439
Speaker 1: accurate throws like when he is scrambling and challenged and

546
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,640
Speaker 1: has to be getting the ball downfield. That's when he's

547
00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:00,360
Speaker 1: at his best. You saw him in the final drive, right,

548
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,920
Speaker 1: He made some great passes one hundred yards, but I

549
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 1: think he had like twenty of them in that final

550
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 1: drive because he just he's becoming a gamer. He's becoming

551
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,439
Speaker 1: a quarterback you can lean into win they're underdogs.

552
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 4: Well, he just he didn't have it, honestly, Like he

553
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,400
Speaker 4: threw a terrible back of the end.

554
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 2: Zone pick that could have killed the game for them.

555
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 4: It should have. Like I said, I can't believe we

556
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:22,880
Speaker 4: stole that game.

557
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 3: He was eleven of twenty four one hundred yards and

558
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 3: a pick in the red zone. And that's just how

559
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,400
Speaker 3: dominant Rikodato on this running attack is right now. So

560
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 3: that's what I really feel like both of us, we

561
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 3: think he'll bounce back here with Bryce Young in this game.

562
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 3: But it's just that running attack I feel will always

563
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,679
Speaker 3: keep us above Border Carolina this year. And like we

564
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 3: keep saying, they're a sneaky seventh seed if they can

565
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 3: get there, they have the offense. We just I think

566
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 3: we both agree they do not have the defense right

567
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 3: now to be a playoff team.

568
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:54,199
Speaker 1: Is Tyler Schuck one season away from eating pasta alone

569
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 1: in his house at four am?

570
00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 2: Just stress eating fuy enough?

571
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 4: I mean some people have called that living the dream.

572
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 1: You call your nightmare, dude, that the only thing I'm

573
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 1: doing at four AMSPN.

574
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 2: That's it.

575
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 1: Cleveland at the New York Jets, The New York Jets,

576
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 1: this lumbers move from one and a half to Simon, Hello,

577
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 1: they're coming off a bye.

578
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 2: Are the New York Jets a juggernaut?

579
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 1: And look if if it's a big if they can

580
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:31,719
Speaker 1: be halfway competent. I like the Jets here because I

581
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 1: do think the Cleveland Browns offensively, they just cannot do anything.

582
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: They do not have a professional quarterback in the room

583
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 1: right now.

584
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 2: If they did, they would be playing him. So to me,

585
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 2: this is really about the Jets. You had a lot

586
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 2: of thoughts on this.

587
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 1: We talked about this before we came on the air

588
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 1: for a minute about this number, So share what you're thinking.

589
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 4: I know, I hate it. I love it. People.

590
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 3: This is almost why Simon says about like said, hard

591
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 3: Rocks already moved.

592
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 4: There's a couple of one and a half's out there.

593
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 3: On the Jets you can still get. We'll chuck real quick,

594
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 3: but yeah, there's still they're still out there at two

595
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 3: of the really big public books, so you can still

596
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:13,479
Speaker 3: get the one and a half if you can find it.

597
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 3: But this is an It's another game where it was

598
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 3: just like our stupid rationale are taking them with Cincy.

599
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 3: There's they're gonna steal games, They're gonna win games. This

600
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 3: Jets team, They's just it's just the way football is.

601
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 3: And you look at this matchup, like we talked about,

602
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 3: I agree, it's terrifying to think of that front of

603
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 3: this Bengals team playing against this Jets team.

604
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 4: But my hope, which.

605
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 3: Again I've been suckering into it before, is that justin

606
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 3: fields and this offense found something against the Bengals to

607
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 3: take into that bye week and use it in this

608
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 3: type of matchup, Like you have a quarterback that can

609
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 3: use his legs against Miles Garrett. That's the only cryptonite

610
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 3: Miles Garrett has. If you just run away from him

611
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 3: and he can't catch you, that's the only way you

612
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 3: could stop. And there's no one on their team that

613
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 3: can block Miles Garrett. There's nothing they can do blocking wise,

614
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,959
Speaker 3: but scheme wise, you can use your quarterback an outside

615
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 3: the pocket and run away from them with the running

616
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 3: back that I like the way this Jets team can

617
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 3: attack this Browns offense. And we always talk about this

618
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 3: Browns team is different away from home. Off the grass,

619
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 3: like we always say, it's a fast field. People forget medlife.

620
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 3: I mean they don't forget we all know because it

621
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 3: takes people's achilles and knees every week. It's a turf field,

622
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 3: so it's a fast field, which again benefits this Jets

623
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 3: team in a matchup where I just can't get over

624
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 3: this kid Gabriel, Like, I am shocked they didn't announce

625
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 3: Sanders was gonna be the start of this week. So

626
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 3: everything is just so negative behind that Browns team behind

627
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 3: closed doors, and I mean I know they're coming off

628
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 3: a bye week as well.

629
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 4: I just can't. I can't see it with this kid, Gabriel.

630
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 4: I know you're in the same boat as me.

631
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 3: Like I've watched so much of him play now I

632
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 3: forever feel so lucky. We did take that Miami spot

633
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 3: where that Cleveland team was obviously the right choice there,

634
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 3: and he threw the ball five times like that's how

635
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 3: they have to win. So could they get it this

636
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 3: against this Jets team? Of course, we know the Jets.

637
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 3: They're and also a team like our sellers. They couldn't

638
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 3: move Breest Hall, which would be a big deal, right,

639
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 3: He's been are going to be their best offensive piece

640
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 3: this season run the ball. So I'm not diving all

641
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 3: in on Jets here yet, but I do want people

642
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 3: to grab the one and a half if possible, because

643
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 3: I think that's the Pros are gonna keep coming in.

644
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 3: I could easily see this again to two and a

645
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 3: half three by kickoff, and if you don't take a

646
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 3: position at that point. If it's three, sure you could

647
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 3: take the Browns. But it mist one one, it's one

648
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 3: and a half.

649
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 4: This is the Jets number. I'd grab it before it moved.

650
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 1: The other thing I would add one of the reasons

651
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: why we liked New England against the Browns a few

652
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 1: weeks ago, other than the fact it was a Browns

653
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 1: defense on the road, the brown secondary is susceptible to

654
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 1: big plays. And the one thing that the Jets have

655
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 1: been able to do this year occasionally, and Justin Fields

656
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 1: showed a little bit of this the other last week

657
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 1: or two weeks ago, is throwing the ball deep.

658
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 2: And any kind of explosive play.

659
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Speaker 1: So to me, there is one little offensive advantage, a creak,

660
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:11,719
Speaker 1: sneak offensive advantage for the Jets in this game. We

661
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 1: talked about it more than I thought we would, like

662
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: I thought I was gonna want to be on the

663
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 1: Jets and you're gonna be like, come on, like, let's

664
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: not be silly here.

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Speaker 2: But so I'm glad an agreement on that.

666
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: The one thing that does scare me is I don't

667
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 1: know who's like, who are they gonna get rid of,

668
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Speaker 1: you know, by the end of today.

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Speaker 4: I just don't know.

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Speaker 1: Jacksonville is Houston. Houston is a one point favorite. The

671
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 1: number is moved in favor of Jacksonville. I'm not surprised.

672
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 1: I was actually surprised that the number was at one

673
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 1: and a half on Sunday night and by yesterday night.

674
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 1: By last night, it's still had it moved to one.

675
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 1: It finally moved to one this morning, at least.

676
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 2: At hard Rock. Like c. J.

677
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: Stroud is in the concussion protocol, the Jags D is

678
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 1: not the Broncos D that Houston just played it yet and.

679
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:01,719
Speaker 2: The Texans deep, I don't know.

680
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: It may literally make Trevor Lawrence's head spin. It might

681
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 1: be more than he can handle. So it's tough to

682
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 1: bet on the team that is playing with its backup

683
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:17,719
Speaker 1: quarterback as a favorite. If I could get Houston as

684
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: an underdog at some point, I'd be more interested.

685
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I hate I hate it because it's we know

686
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 3: we're supposed to bet Houston. I think we're both just

687
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 3: so burned by watching three quarters of Davis Mills just

688
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 3: do nothing.

689
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Speaker 1: But that Roncos defense is so good like the Jags defense.

690
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: I know, they just made Geno Smith look like a hero.

691
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: He scored twenty nine points against them, like they scored

692
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,719
Speaker 1: god knows how many points in the second half. So

693
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 1: it's not the same defense, and he's got a week

694
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 1: to figure it out. He's not coming in cold at

695
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: the end of the second in the middle of the

696
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: second quarter.

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Speaker 3: And that's the biggest deal is he hasn't prepared or

698
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 3: practice with the ones you know all year. Definitely wasn't

699
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 3: probably diving in until midnight every night, preparing in the

700
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 3: playbook in case he started this past week, which again

701
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 3: this is he knows the deal, like this is.

702
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,879
Speaker 4: For his future, his livelihood. This is his super Bowl.

703
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 3: And we always talk about we like backing the backups

704
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 3: in their first start, usually not the second start, usually

705
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 3: the first start. And you're right, I probably just need

706
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 3: to swallow and take this Houston team. But like you,

707
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 3: I'll just be patient, see what the public and professionals do.

708
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,359
Speaker 3: If CJ is not cleared, maybe we do get a

709
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 3: plus two and a half plus three bump and then

710
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 3: we're in a really good spot. Right we have this

711
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 3: Houston defense as a dog at home against Trevor Lawrence

712
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 3: is a road favorite once again, and try to warn

713
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 3: you last week about it, you don't. I just something

714
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 3: about Trevor Lawrence on the road as a favorite will

715
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 3: always scare me because he's always gonna keep the other

716
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,359
Speaker 3: team in it. I feel like it's the same thing

717
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 3: here and you're we're both talking about a lob where

718
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 3: it's like it's another bet on Houston's defense like we

719
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 3: have been doing these basketball weeks.

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Speaker 4: It's just such a a great unit, especially turn the

721
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 4: teams over. So be patient. Let's see if we get

722
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 4: a plus number here on this Texans team.

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Speaker 1: We have so much agreement this week after last week.

724
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 1: I think that actually bodes well. I think last week

725
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 1: one of our problems might have been we couldn't find agreement.

726
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 1: And it turns out like all the games you liked

727
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 1: were the right side, all the games I liked were

728
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 1: the right side, and the games that we could agree

729
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 1: on were the wrong side. So I think this is

730
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: trending well for US. New England and Tampa Bay. Simon

731
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Speaker 1: and Tampa Bay Buccaneers are two and a half point favorites.

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Speaker 1: Hit It, Hit It, Hit It one hundred percent Change

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Speaker 1: Choice presented by hard Rock Bet are the Tampa Bay Buccaneers?

734
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Speaker 4: Are you sure you want to do this? Are you

735
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 4: willing to make a choice? My choice? We can't run

736
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 4: from who we are. Sharp dudes can just see it,

737
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Buccaneers minus two and a half against the high flying

739
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 1: Drake May mvping New England Patriots, and you dropped a

740
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,919
Speaker 1: little bit of a hint about this on Sunday night.

741
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 1: I'm actually surprised it hasn't moved to three yet. And

742
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 1: that's an indication to me of the respect that everybody

743
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 1: is giving Drake May and Mike vrabel. I kind of

744
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 1: feel like, because Baker in the box got beat up

745
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 1: so bad by the Lions and then went under the

746
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,839
Speaker 1: bye week, they've forgotten the Baker mayfield was Drake May

747
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 1: before Drake May was Drake May in the MVP race,

748
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 1: meaning the surprise MVP that everybody is talking about who's cooking,

749
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 1: no matter where he's playing, no matter who's on the field.

750
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 1: The Pats have won six in a row since starting

751
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: one and two. The last four Simon have included blot

752
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 1: wins over the Saints, the Browns, the Titans, and then

753
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 1: a nail bier against the only you could say competitive

754
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 1: team they played in, the Falcons. The Bucks are in

755
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: every way in this game, a step up in class

756
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 1: for the New England Patriots and the Patriots on the road.

757
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,839
Speaker 1: They've now after playing hurt for a few months, they're

758
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 1: getting guys back. Luke Getticky his practice window has opened

759
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 1: after being on injured reserve. There's a chance he could

760
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 1: play this week. Baker's had a couple of weeks to

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00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 1: heal a lot of his injuries and ailments. A confident

762
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 1: Baker at home as a short road favorite against an

763
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 1: up and coming team. I think the coaching matchup is good,

764
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 1: Like Mike Rabel isn't gonna out coach Todd Bowles give

765
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: me the box.

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00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's crazy where.

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Speaker 3: I love this one too, And it feels like I

768
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 3: give up five games I really liked on Sunday night

769
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 3: and they all moved in great directions for me. Looks

770
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 3: like I made a couple of great bets except this one.

771
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 3: This is not and of all of them, this felt

772
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 3: like one of the easier picks.

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00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 4: Right.

774
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 3: We're happy to be selling on the Patriots, like you said,

775
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 3: on the road here in a really tough matchup for them,

776
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:13,240
Speaker 3: playing against the team that and every metric is just better.

777
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 3: Like flat out, we talk about a veteran team, a

778
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 3: complete team that is going to be contending for Super Bowls.

779
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 3: You think of this Bucks team when you think of

780
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 3: an overachieving, overachieving team that's fighting way above their weight, Right,

781
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 3: now it's got to be the Patriots, like everything is

782
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 3: going their way. And you know, that's why I understand

783
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 3: why Pitchers fans are so excited the Drake May stuff.

784
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,399
Speaker 3: It's crazy. I really can't go over even going back

785
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 3: and watching that game. He's making really stupid mistakes. Still

786
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,280
Speaker 3: did enough to win that game after making really bad mistakes,

787
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 3: which again, that's all you're looking for.

788
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 4: If you're a Patriots fan.

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00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 3: You're lying to yourself if you think you're gonna have

790
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,800
Speaker 3: playoff success this year. But there's a little things you

791
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 3: can see where it's like Drake May might be a guy,

792
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 3: which is all you want to see at the end

793
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 3: of the day.

794
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 4: So this type of.

795
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Speaker 3: Game, he goes in there and wins this, I'm happy

796
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 3: to eat it. Talk to a couple pros hit me

797
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 3: up yesterday after he listen to our show, and they

798
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 3: like the patriotsier and they think we're overrating a bucks

799
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:12,760
Speaker 3: team that you know, they did get embarrassed by Detroit,

800
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:14,919
Speaker 3: but like you said, they bounced back the following week.

801
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 3: Their defense really destroyed the Saints. Maybe something is wrong

802
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,320
Speaker 3: with Baker and they got an info and I'm missing

803
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,399
Speaker 3: on it, and that he is hurt, and even after

804
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,439
Speaker 3: the Bible, he's still not right because he just hasn't

805
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 3: looked right in their previous two games. So this feels

806
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 3: like a guy right spot for Baker. Christigan Zalez didn't

807
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 3: land right. He's banged up for this Patriots team after

808
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 3: a really tough game against Drake London last week. So

809
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Speaker 3: I don't know, Chad, why is this not gone to three?

810
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,320
Speaker 3: I do not get why this one has not moved.

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Speaker 3: So I'm with you, I'll grab it now. If it

812
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 3: moves lower, I'm gonna be a sucker. I'll by buy

813
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,800
Speaker 3: some more Bucks line here. But anything under three, I

814
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 3: feel like is a great Bucks line. They just feel

815
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 3: like not only are their field goal better, I feel

816
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 3: like they're even better than that.

817
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 4: Like they feel like if they got healthy guys are back.

818
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 3: This week for them, specially that offensive line, I could

819
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 3: see them steamroll this Patriots defense.

820
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 4: So really interesting. The books have held this at two

821
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 4: and a half.

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Speaker 1: We have breaking news Simon. As we are discussing, Adam

823
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:15,919
Speaker 1: Schefter is reporting that the Indianapolis Colts have traded two

824
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 1: first round picks, two the New York Jets four.

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Speaker 2: Sauce Gardener.

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Speaker 4: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 1: Sauce Gardner's sort of been struggling mightily with Aaron Glenn

828
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Speaker 1: this year.

829
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Speaker 2: So this is a guy who the Jets.

830
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Speaker 3: Have gotten rid of their number one and number two

831
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Speaker 3: corner in the last two weeks because they traded uh

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Speaker 3: Carter to the Eagles.

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00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:44,720
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, So.

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Speaker 1: To me, is this just a breakup of a bad

835
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 1: match between coach and player? Is it a player who

836
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 1: after two stellar seasons has hit his ceiling and is

837
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 1: falling off? Was it an attitude thing? I don't know

838
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: the answers to any of these.

839
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Speaker 3: They gave him one hundred twenty million.

840
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 1: They just gave him a ridiculous amount of money. And

841
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 1: now he's going to the Colts, who have had some

842
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 1: issues on the edges.

843
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 2: Defending against number.

844
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Speaker 1: One receivers huge upgrade for the Colts and shows shows

845
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 1: that the Colts feel like they're going all in and

846
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 1: that they're in a really good spot right now. I

847
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 1: don't know that it makes a difference to me in

848
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 1: the number Like it's not like you know, Terry.

849
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 3: Judy, But I don't know if Dylan Garb was gonna

850
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 3: take advantage of the Sauce Pardner, That's what I mean.

851
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, Also, the Saints traded Rashid Shaheed to the Seattle Seahawks.

852
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 3: Interesting though I like the Colts when now I'm all

853
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 3: about it there, I agree with that with the Colts team,

854
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 3: like they're again idiots like me, and we're never going

855
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,320
Speaker 3: to believe them. I'm always gonna take my homes or

856
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 3: Josh Allen over them in the playoffs. But there's a

857
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 3: path you just got to make it with that type

858
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 3: of offense that Daniel Jones is clicking right, So their

859
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 3: biggest weakness by far was that secondary cornerback position.

860
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Speaker 4: So that's awesome.

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00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 3: They're making moves, but yeah, I don't know if either

862
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 3: of us are greed two first round picks for a

863
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 3: guy making that kind of money.

864
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 4: That's heavy, that's questionable.

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Speaker 1: That's an all in move. Yeah, all in Baltimore and Minnesota.

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00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 1: Minnesota is a three and a half point underdog. Numbers

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Speaker 1: moved up a little bit. Listen, I've been I've been

868
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 1: throughout this whole week. I've been trying to find underdogs

869
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 1: to fall in love with and not lead into the favorites.

870
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 1: After the blood bath last week, and I felt like

871
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: the Vikings could possibly be it, and I can't get there.

872
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 1: I just can't get there, Like I have to believe

873
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 1: the signs I've seen from the Broncos defense since they came.

874
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 4: Out of the by Baltimore.

875
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sorry Baltimore's defense since they came out

876
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 1: of the by plus Lamar Jackson being back is a

877
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 1: greater indicator of the direction of this team than what

878
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 1: we saw last week with JJ McCarthy, who had some

879
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: really nice throws and they got him out to the

880
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,720
Speaker 1: edges where they can take advantage of his athleticism.

881
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,720
Speaker 2: But Lebar Jackson is not Jared Goff.

882
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 1: What the Vikings did against Jared Goff to make him

883
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 1: ineffective in bringing the pressure is not going to be

884
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 1: as effective as on Labar Jackson. So I can't get

885
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:25,839
Speaker 1: to the Vikings here, and I really want to.

886
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 3: No, it feels like the books on the bad Line

887
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:33,320
Speaker 3: we took Sunday. Opening this three minus one twenty on

888
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 3: the Ravens was egregious hard rock. I'm looking at a

889
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,879
Speaker 3: live here in Jersey. They've just moved to minus four.

890
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 3: They were the last book hanging on the minus three

891
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 3: and a half. With this Ravens team, it's gone. Every

892
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 3: book now is minus four minus four and a half.

893
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:50,399
Speaker 3: I think I'll keep growing. Like you said, maybe we'll

894
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 3: get there on Sunday with this Vikings team because it

895
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:56,240
Speaker 3: will be probably the biggest need for all the sports books.

896
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 3: I'm somebody that I'm as well. I have just been

897
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 3: hammering this Raven's money line. I don't I don't get

898
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 3: the number. Raven Lamar just himself owns NFC teams, and

899
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 3: you look at this matchup. We talked a little bit

900
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 3: Sunday night. The worst run defense the Vikings. Yes, they

901
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,760
Speaker 3: did look good against that Detroit team. Tons of credit

902
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 3: to Floores. Are they going to do it?

903
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:17,359
Speaker 4: Really?

904
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 3: Two games in a row like this is you move

905
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 3: Lamar off his spot, He's gonna burn you for twenty

906
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 3: yards with his legs. Do they have the linebackers a

907
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 3: spy Lamar?

908
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,359
Speaker 4: Like? There's a lot of stuff I like here for this.

909
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 3: Ravens team, between Derek Henry's running style and Lamar's running

910
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 3: style against the Vikings team that does struggle against the runs.

911
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 3: So really interesting number of the book opened it. Like

912
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 3: I said, it's up to minus four and a half.

913
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,439
Speaker 3: Now in most books it's minus four. At hard Rock,

914
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 3: I still a little attempted to take the Ravens. But

915
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 3: if we can get to the number that should be

916
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,280
Speaker 3: six six and a half, and this is the biggest

917
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 3: need of the sports book. No chance I let us

918
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 3: touch this one for contest or betting wise. But as

919
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 3: we said here right now, if you can get I

920
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 3: don't think he can. If you can get the minas

921
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:05,760
Speaker 3: three and a half, I'd still take on the Ravens,

922
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:07,280
Speaker 3: but I think you're the best You're gonna.

923
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:10,240
Speaker 4: Get now is the four and yeah only fource. Yeah.

924
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 3: So I'm just I'm gonna wait and be patient this

925
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 3: one now and see what the professionals do with it.

926
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 3: But just a terrible opening line by the books, and

927
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 3: hopefully people listen Sunday night and took advantage of that

928
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 3: number because it was just egregious.

929
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 1: You just mentioned the money line though, Minu money line

930
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:25,439
Speaker 1: I think is minus two twenty five.

931
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 2: So did I see that right? Did I? Did I

932
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 2: see the right?

933
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 4: Now?

934
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 3: Hard Rock is minus two ten red that's moving though,

935
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 3: Like sim I've hit that when it was minus one eighty,

936
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,399
Speaker 3: minus one ninety, minus two hundred. If you can still

937
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 3: get the minus two ten, I would like Chad saying,

938
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna settle minus two twenty five to thirty.

939
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 4: So I again, I'm not here telling people to go

940
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 4: all in on this with the money line, but this.

941
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 3: Is the exact type of games Lamar does win and cover.

942
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 3: He just beats up on defenses that can't stop the

943
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 3: running we talked about. This is a very desperate, desperate

944
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 3: Ravens team playing a Vikings team coming off a huge

945
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 3: win with a young quarterback, and howsie handled that success.

946
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 4: I just I can't get over how bad of a

947
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 4: spot this is for this Vikings team.

948
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 3: On the flip side, how great of a spot it

949
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 3: is for this Ravens team. So yeah, it's it's not

950
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 3: shocking to see this number getting pounded up to four

951
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 3: and a half right now.

952
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson's been as good against the Blitz as any

953
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 1: quarterback in the NFL the last couple of years, not

954
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: counting this year obviously, I haven't played as much, but

955
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 1: last year especially outstanding, outstanding.

956
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 3: I think he's like leading the league in QBR right

957
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 3: now too, Like he's just he's awesome.

958
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 4: Yeah. The thing holding them back.

959
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 3: This year has been their defense, and they look like

960
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 3: they figured stuff out like they did last year. Remember

961
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 3: that second half of last year, and it's all about

962
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 3: Coyle Hamilton making the adjustments with him him coming down

963
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 3: in the box, playing more free.

964
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 4: You see, it just affects that defense in so many ways.

965
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 4: With him at ro Con.

966
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 1: Smith Arizona at Seattle, Seattle's six and a half point

967
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 1: favorite at home, the line has dropped, and Sovan here's

968
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:01,959
Speaker 1: the problem with this game.

969
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:06,839
Speaker 2: Seahawks are peak peak, peak, peak, peak peak value right now.

970
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 1: Sam Darnold is everybody's favorite MVP candidate, even though he's

971
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,240
Speaker 1: still twenty to one to win the MVP. He's behind

972
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, He's behind Patrick Mahomes, he's behind Drake may Still,

973
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 1: who all have significantly shorter odds. And this defense has

974
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 1: been unstoppable, especially coming off rest week seeing what they

975
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 1: did to the Commanders. Cardinals have lost close games with

976
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. They finally won one with Jakobe Brissett in

977
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 1: an offense that basically with him has just looked much

978
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 1: much better than it is with Kyler. And this is

979
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:50,280
Speaker 1: without its first and second string running backs. Jonathan Gannon

980
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 1: has said Kyler Murray is the starting quarterback, but could

981
00:47:56,680 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 1: they just sort of keep shadow benching Kyler Murray like

982
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 1: I would much rather bet on this game.

983
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 2: If it was to Kobe Brissette than if it was

984
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:04,800
Speaker 2: Kyler Murray.

985
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 3: Totally agree. And I know it's been very lazy and

986
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 3: boring to people. I've just been pound the table all

987
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,879
Speaker 3: year about it. Seahawks on the road has to become

988
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,879
Speaker 3: an auto bet. They're just the defense travels. I said

989
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 3: the last week against the Commanders, I couldn't get over

990
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 3: how underrated the public keeps.

991
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 4: Beat on the Seahawks defense traveling.

992
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 3: And literally, I know Sam Donald was gonna be perfect

993
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 3: in that first half. You just didn't matter so much

994
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 3: about what the defense was gonna do. Sam darnalld a

995
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 3: night like that, you're not gonna beat them. So I

996
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 3: just I'm gonna keep doing it. I'm gonna keep fading

997
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 3: the Seahawks team when they're at home against good offenses,

998
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:42,280
Speaker 3: because I just they like their defense plays differently at home.

999
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 3: I mean, just going back to the two losses this year.

1000
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 3: Week one I talked about that was a fluke. I

1001
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:50,800
Speaker 3: liked the Seahawks. They lost seventeen to thirteen on a

1002
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 3: last drive by Purty in a game which Sam Darner

1003
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 3: just wasn't comfortable yet in that Seahawks offense. The other

1004
00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:00,879
Speaker 3: loss against the Bucks, the defense gave up thirty eight

1005
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 3: points at home against you know what, we respect to

1006
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:06,959
Speaker 3: be a really potent offense right now and that Bucks team.

1007
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 3: But I feel the same about this Cardinals team when

1008
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 3: it's Jacoby Brissett. So I'm like Chad, I bet into this.

1009
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 3: I want to best up Penny more until I know

1010
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 3: exactly who the starting quarterback is. I am not betting

1011
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 3: Kyler Murray in his first start back after a big

1012
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 3: injury on the road, even though I always say Kyler

1013
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 3: is a dog, is a great bet. I just feel

1014
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:27,720
Speaker 3: like that's too much ask of the guy coming back

1015
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 3: Rusty in this exact spot. It's it's too much, So

1016
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,359
Speaker 3: I'll be patient. I'm not going to force it in there.

1017
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 3: But I man, I love this at plus six and

1018
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 3: a half for the visit Jacoby Brissett just feels like

1019
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 3: a game. They're gonna be competitive in it the whole time.

1020
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 3: Like we always say, this division, it's one of the

1021
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 3: best right now in football. The Seahawks, Rams and Foyn Andres,

1022
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 3: they're they're the teams. But like I keep saying about Arizona,

1023
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 3: they play teams close they played the Colts close, they

1024
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 3: played Green Bay close. They play up to the competition level.

1025
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 3: So I like this a lot if it's set, But yeah,

1026
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:02,280
Speaker 3: I think we're both in agreement.

1027
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:03,800
Speaker 4: I'm not going to force in if it's Keller.

1028
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:07,240
Speaker 1: Murray Detroit at Washington. The numbers eight and a half.

1029
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 1: It was three on Sunday night when we talked.

1030
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 2: About like in Detroit.

1031
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 1: Basically, what we're being told is that Jaydon Daniels is

1032
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 1: worth five and a half points. Do you think he's

1033
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 1: worth five and a half points.

1034
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 3: This year with all the stuff that gets going on, Like, no,

1035
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,399
Speaker 3: Terry McLaurin, that feels fair because he's not been healthy

1036
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:27,319
Speaker 3: all year. He's been playing through injuries all season. And yeah,

1037
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 3: no one wants to victory lap saying Washington was gonna

1038
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 3: be bad this year in regress after a quarterback gets hurt.

1039
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 3: But everything we worried about has come true for Washington.

1040
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 3: And how do you now feel bad for their fan

1041
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 3: base where it's like it's all there, right, your team

1042
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 3: has invested to win. Now for this season, you're like

1043
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 3: the oldest team of football. Every move you made it

1044
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 3: looks like a dud, and it looks like it's gonna

1045
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 3: be a two to three year rebuild.

1046
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 4: Now, Like when you're really looking at their team on paper.

1047
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:54,359
Speaker 2: Well, their defense is just so bad, atrocious.

1048
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 3: And their coach, I said it last week, I think

1049
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 3: he might be an idiot, like some of the stuff

1050
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 3: he did with Mary, treating him as if he was

1051
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,919
Speaker 3: Jane Daniels. And now fast forward to this week, having

1052
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 3: your star quarterback who's playing banged up, still in that

1053
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 3: game that you have zero chances coming back, and then

1054
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 3: getting hurt. I just I can't get over how bad

1055
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 3: Dan Quinn might be as a quarter as a head coach.

1056
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 4: So I don't know.

1057
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 3: I know, we're probably supposed to take Washington here because

1058
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 3: the Lions moved so much, but this feels like a game.

1059
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:24,479
Speaker 4: Detroit is gonna win forty to nine.

1060
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 3: Just all their frustration from the week before, Campbell just

1061
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:28,319
Speaker 3: pours it on.

1062
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:31,880
Speaker 4: I mean, is it. Did I see that right? The

1063
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 4: levou is suspended the linebacker.

1064
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1065
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I think he guts spend it for hip

1066
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 3: drop tackle. He keeps doing it, and they're like, dude, we're

1067
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 3: already finding enough. Maybe it was a third or fourth offense.

1068
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 3: He's their best, in my opinion, their best defender, Like

1069
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 3: he is really really good linebacker, so you take him out.

1070
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 3: Now you have a thirty seven year old linebacker trying

1071
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 3: to cover the tight ends in the middle of the

1072
00:51:57,080 --> 00:52:00,879
Speaker 3: field against this Lions team. Just disaster every way. So

1073
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's gone high enough. I saw

1074
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 3: a couple of books hit nine and a half and

1075
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 3: it's come back down to eight and a half.

1076
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 4: So there is professional money holding us back here. Maybe

1077
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 4: I just am so bitter at Detroit because they burned

1078
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,359
Speaker 4: us so bad last week. But this is when we're

1079
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 4: supposed to take Detroit.

1080
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 3: So I'm trying to try not to overreact because we

1081
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 3: got so burned last week by these favorites that there

1082
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 3: are some favorites we just might have to take here,

1083
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:27,320
Speaker 3: and the lines might be one of them. It's like, Okay,

1084
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:30,399
Speaker 3: Mariona might get his against the suspect Lions defense at

1085
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 3: some point, but overall, I just see this Detroit offense

1086
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 3: do whatever they want.

1087
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 4: This watch of the defense might be one of the

1088
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 4: worst in the league.

1089
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 2: It's a tricky one because we're just scared off by

1090
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:41,760
Speaker 2: the big number.

1091
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 4: Again. We just got burned by the Science team.

1092
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 1: It's still just got burned by a lot of teams

1093
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 1: on the big number. And and it's going back into

1094
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 1: the well on the same exact theory that Detroit can't

1095
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:53,360
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00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 3: Right, That wasn't our theory last week. That was a

1097
00:52:56,760 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 3: good matchup. I just again, We got golf, got.

1098
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Speaker 2: Got got yeah, exactly, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: All right, so another game.

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Speaker 1: We were just talking about Seattle in Zona and how

1141
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 1: good the NFC West is. The Rams going to San Francisco,

1142
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 1: and look, I really want to love San Francisco. Here

1143
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 1: the line is three and a half. I don't know

1144
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 1: how they're going to play defense in this game. They

1145
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 1: lost another edge defender in Michel Williams, their first round

1146
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:21,839
Speaker 1: draft pick. I know you love Mac and maybe he'll

1147
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 1: be playing quarterback, but the Rams rush d is elite.

1148
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 1: There is no hole in this defensive unit. They're like

1149
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 1: top five across every advanced metric including fifth and EPA

1150
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:44,800
Speaker 1: per rush. So like the Niners are empty at D line,

1151
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:48,839
Speaker 1: they're empty at linebacker. It's a tricky one. The line

1152
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 1: has moved from three to three and a half. I

1153
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 1: know you want to play the Niners here, but.

1154
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:59,280
Speaker 2: It's it's ugly.

1155
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's definitely a word world war.

1156
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:09,359
Speaker 5: Now.

1157
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:11,840
Speaker 3: I'm a lover of Mac Jones, a guy who I

1158
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 3: just notorilously shut him for years.

1159
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:16,439
Speaker 1: And I and I'm all over the rams, Like when

1160
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 1: I used to love betting Kyle Shannon as a home

1161
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 1: dog in a in a game where they're they should

1162
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:22,400
Speaker 1: it doesn't.

1163
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:25,840
Speaker 3: I mean, it feels like you're you're you're overthinking. It's like,

1164
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:29,399
Speaker 3: are are we supposed to take? Not think about this one?

1165
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 3: Take fort n Ice right. Shockingly enough with Purdy, I

1166
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 3: got if he was fully healthy. I have this line

1167
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 3: that minus are plus two for the forty nine ers,

1168
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 3: so they'd still be a dog. Mac Jones is one

1169
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:42,400
Speaker 3: point difference. Once again, That's why I keeps trying to

1170
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 3: say the mac Jones thing. I think it's closer than

1171
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 3: you realize. They're not that different playing in the Shanehanne system.

1172
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:50,840
Speaker 3: And last week, I mean mac Jones, I think he

1173
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:52,799
Speaker 3: was perfect. He was like fifteen to fifteen to start

1174
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 3: the game, so we've seen it. He can push the

1175
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:57,799
Speaker 3: ball down feeling like you said, that's the nervous part

1176
00:56:57,800 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 3: here is we're back in the fortn Iris team that

1177
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 3: just has another thing left. Defensively, by far, the best

1178
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 3: offense they've played since they've lost.

1179
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 4: Spread like that Atlanta totally knows, showed they haven't really

1180
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 4: had a test.

1181
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:11,319
Speaker 3: Right. It went Atlanta, Houston and the Giants. That's not

1182
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 3: three juggernaut of offenses. So you're right for your skepticism.

1183
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 3: I just this feels like the type of games of

1184
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 3: the Rams just lay an egg on, especially the fact

1185
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 3: that this is going to be one of the bigger

1186
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 3: public sides of the week.

1187
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 4: People are quick to forget this Rams team lost to

1188
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 4: this forty nine Ers team.

1189
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:32,919
Speaker 3: On a short week at home as an eight point

1190
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 3: favorite by three, So.

1191
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 4: It's a tough thing. Here is the line moved too much?

1192
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 3: Like the forty nine Ers have only gotten worse and

1193
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 3: lost more players since then. The Rams have only looked

1194
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 3: better and you know, played better since then.

1195
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 4: So I think the books are trying to tell us

1196
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 4: something here, Chad.

1197
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 3: So, like I said something night, I would take the

1198
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 3: Rams of minus three because I just saw it moving

1199
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 3: this way. But I said, I feel like I'm gonna

1200
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 3: have to end up on this forty other side. I'm

1201
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 3: gonna have to be on the side. So I know

1202
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 3: it's it's gross, but I gotta hold I gotta hold

1203
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 3: it here and say we got to take forty nine

1204
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 3: Ers plus three.

1205
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 2: And a half.

1206
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 1: What's so funny about this game is on Sunday night,

1207
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 1: I was all over the Niners.

1208
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:14,919
Speaker 4: Were you yeah?

1209
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 2: During the show.

1210
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 1: I like, as soon as I saw it, I'm like,

1211
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 1: I feel like I got to take the Niners at.

1212
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 4: Three folks too, we know that much. You are supposed

1213
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 4: to take the Niners.

1214
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:27,480
Speaker 1: Year, And like all the work I did yesterday just

1215
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 1: made me think, how are they going to stop Matthew

1216
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 1: Stafford And how is Christian McCaffrey going to gain any yards?

1217
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 2: I just like forgetting about the number, just looking at

1218
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 2: the schemes. It's a tricky.

1219
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 1: It's a tricky one. We'll talk about it on Thursday

1220
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 1: a little bit more.

1221
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 3: And I'll say this, I love our fans, especially like

1222
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 3: the ones who listened to us and our dinner offseason

1223
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 3: show this summer. I said I was not investing any

1224
00:58:57,560 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 3: money in to Puka Nakua and I was invested in

1225
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 3: Devata Adams. I feel like that was the value in

1226
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 3: fantasy football. Puka started out incredibly, but he's been banged

1227
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 3: up a lot. Yeah again in receiving touchdowns, Chad, here

1228
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 3: we are through nine weeks Adams Vante Adams eight touchdowns.

1229
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 3: So it's it was just all about value and playing

1230
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 3: this in air and I just love that matchup with

1231
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 3: him and Stafford. It's like I knew Stafford was gonna

1232
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 3: love having a guy like him who's so smooth and

1233
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 3: precise a running routes. And yeah, I'm not gonna lie.

1234
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 3: It is scary betting against this Rams team right now,

1235
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 3: but this feels like such a spot, such a spot

1236
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 3: to go against them, So yeah, I'm interesting what the

1237
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 3: professionals do with this line. Early money obviously has come

1238
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:38,600
Speaker 3: in pretty heavy on this Rams team all right.

1239
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 1: Time for the prime time spot, lies Chacking taking a

1240
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 1: look at our Island games. Pittsburgh is visiting the Chargers.

1241
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 1: The line has moved from three and a half down

1242
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 1: to three. Another stinky line. Not stinky, but just another

1243
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 1: bad line that the bookmaker's posted on Sunday night. Forget

1244
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 1: about it being a raw round. Mike Tomlin spot, how

1245
00:59:57,600 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 1: are the Chargers going to protect Justin Herbert? We see

1246
00:59:59,880 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 1: it every single week. They're out. Joe Alt is now

1247
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 1: out for the season. Bobby Hart, who was supposed to

1248
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 1: be an off the street sort of backup, turned into

1249
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 1: one of their better offensive linemen. He pulled his growing

1250
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 1: status unknown for this weekend. The Steelers did do things

1251
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 1: defensively against the Colts that I think were new and

1252
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 1: they were the reasons why we were sometimes afraid to

1253
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 1: bet them. They stopped playing so much man with Jalen Ramsey,

1254
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:28,480
Speaker 1: they moved him to safety. They got Kyle Dugger from

1255
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 1: the from I think the Patriots, right and they played

1256
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 1: him a lot in the game. So now they put

1257
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 1: all this stuff on film so people can see that

1258
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 1: they were playing zone and it's not going to be

1259
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:45,920
Speaker 1: confusing to anybody. But the bigger issue is just the

1260
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 1: Chargers cannot protect Justin Herbert and if TJ. Watt Alex

1261
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 1: Highsmith can do anything against this chief, this Charger's offensive line,

1262
01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 1: he's just going to be running for his life the

1263
01:00:57,680 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 1: entire game.

1264
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I hate this game so much. I'm not gonna lie.

1265
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:07,240
Speaker 3: It's your early read on Someday was so right. It

1266
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 3: was a Pittsburgh number three and a half. Now, if

1267
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 3: you went three and a half, it's like minus one thirty.

1268
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 3: That's just totally gone hard rock here in Jersey's already

1269
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 3: moved to two and a half minus two and a

1270
01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:21,880
Speaker 3: half now, wow, So it's kind of becoming a Chargers line. Shockingly,

1271
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 3: my model had this had a pick so like a

1272
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 3: ton of value to this other team. I think that's

1273
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 3: what you're saying. It's like, maybe I'm underestimating the value

1274
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 3: of Joe Alt and this offensive line, how important it

1275
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 3: is to success not only Herbert but that running attack,

1276
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 3: which if you can't get that going against its Pittsburgh team,

1277
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 3: they make you one dimensional. Yeah, there are ways Pittsburgh

1278
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:44,520
Speaker 3: can defensively play really well, right when they know you

1279
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:47,480
Speaker 3: have to pass. You got guys like Watt up front.

1280
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 3: That's gonna be a huge deal, right, and he can

1281
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 3: just spin his years back. But I just I'm having

1282
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 3: a hard time getting there on Pittsburgh get two and

1283
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 3: a half. At three, I can get there three and

1284
01:01:57,160 --> 01:01:59,080
Speaker 3: a half. I'm all the way there. But at two

1285
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 3: and a half, I'm slowly starting to be like, isn't

1286
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:04,000
Speaker 3: this a Chargers line? At what point does this become

1287
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:06,160
Speaker 3: a Chargers line? Because to me, they are still the

1288
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 3: better team. And I just even last week it took

1289
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 3: five turnovers and a ton of things go their way

1290
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 3: for Pittsburgh to kind of win that game.

1291
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know.

1292
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 3: It feels like we have a pattern here with Pittsburgh

1293
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:20,440
Speaker 3: this year. Right, the games they win, they have tons

1294
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:24,960
Speaker 3: of turnover luck because it's just you know, it's a

1295
01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:27,960
Speaker 3: dysfunctional defense. Like we said, teams can get theirs against them,

1296
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:30,760
Speaker 3: they're gonna give up yards. Can they win the turnover battle?

1297
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 3: That's how they're gonna steal games. So Herbert, it should

1298
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:35,960
Speaker 3: be a great Herbert game and spot for Herbert. But

1299
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 3: like you said, if he has a third stringer going

1300
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 3: up against what, I don't care how much you're chipping

1301
01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:44,640
Speaker 3: with the tight end or the running back. Someone's getting

1302
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:46,920
Speaker 3: a one on one against the really bast suspect backup

1303
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:48,320
Speaker 3: on that offensive line, they're gonna win.

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Speaker 4: So I'm with you.

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Speaker 3: If you can get the plus three on Pittsburgh, that's

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Speaker 3: probably the line to get right now. But I'm really

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01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:56,320
Speaker 3: not too favorable of either of these sides right now.

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01:02:57,560 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 1: Last game on the board Philadelphia at green Bay. Green

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01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 1: Bay's at two and a half point favorite. It's got

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01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 1: to be green Bay. This has to be the by

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01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 1: low Sell high spot. I know the Eagles have traded

1312
01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:22,200
Speaker 1: for done half the trades, you know, how we go

1313
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 1: and how we before the trade deadline. They've added Jalen

1314
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:29,960
Speaker 1: Phillips from the Dolphins. They added Jared Alexander the cornerback

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01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 1: who had been buried on the Ravens bench. I don't

1316
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:35,120
Speaker 1: know if that's going to be the solution to their

1317
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:41,000
Speaker 1: you know, second cornerback need on the edge. But we've

1318
01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 1: just seen the Packers lose to the Panthers at home,

1319
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 1: in which the Panthers defense was great, but like you

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01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 1: pointed out, the Packers did not punt in that game.

1321
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:57,320
Speaker 1: That was self inflicted, entirely by the Packers. Meanwhile, the Eagles,

1322
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:02,840
Speaker 1: they're like, they're looking like champions the last couple of

1323
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:06,040
Speaker 1: weeks so and they got to buy. So I'm a

1324
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 1: little surprised that this is under two and a half

1325
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:12,440
Speaker 1: because it feels like such a Packer's line. I'm actually

1326
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:13,720
Speaker 1: surprised it hasn't moved to three.

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01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 4: And we always said heart hard rocks sharp book here

1328
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 4: in Jersey. They just hit two. So really, Yeah, so

1329
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:23,959
Speaker 4: there's some professional money.

1330
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Speaker 3: Obviously, he's coming on the Eagles, and that's I knew.

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01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 3: We saw it Sunday night. I knew this gonna be

1332
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Speaker 3: the most public dog of the week, and you know,

1333
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:33,800
Speaker 3: public dogs do hit. Like the Bills were the number

1334
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 3: one public dog last week. They came to no problem.

1335
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:40,160
Speaker 3: So this Eagles team everything you said is so true.

1336
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:42,520
Speaker 3: They could be getting in to form here. I'm walking

1337
01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:42,960
Speaker 3: into it.

1338
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:44,360
Speaker 4: I just.

1339
01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:48,480
Speaker 3: I like to think that the Screen Bay team is

1340
01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:51,280
Speaker 3: better than what we've seen, and when they play against

1341
01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:54,480
Speaker 3: certain competition, they're another team to plays the level of

1342
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:55,280
Speaker 3: that competition.

1343
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:56,800
Speaker 4: I mean, how many times we've seen.

1344
01:04:56,600 --> 01:05:00,240
Speaker 3: This year they play well against really good teams and

1345
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:03,959
Speaker 3: then lay total eggs against suspect teams like that Browns game.

1346
01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:06,480
Speaker 3: That was a really suspect loss, and that was once

1347
01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:07,640
Speaker 3: again on Jordan Love.

1348
01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:08,680
Speaker 4: He gave that game away.

1349
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 3: How do you not blame Jordan Love for that Carolina loss?

1350
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:13,520
Speaker 3: He gave that game away. He just made so many

1351
01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:17,480
Speaker 3: bad mistakes. So I know, I love this one. Sunday,

1352
01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:20,320
Speaker 3: I'm kind of flipping towards the Eagles. Unfortunately, I'm getting

1353
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:23,360
Speaker 3: kind of getting pushed into it. I want to hold

1354
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:26,320
Speaker 3: firm here what the professionals are saying here, I'll see

1355
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:28,480
Speaker 3: what other guys are saying. But as right now, a

1356
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 3: couple of pros I talk to they do like the

1357
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:32,400
Speaker 3: Eagles here. They like the number, especially with the hook

1358
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:35,080
Speaker 3: at two and a half. But it doesn't just feel

1359
01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:37,200
Speaker 3: like a stinky line. This should be a Green Bay

1360
01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:41,680
Speaker 3: spot so I'm gonna dive more into this one right now. Again,

1361
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:43,920
Speaker 3: can't can't get much from the model that my model

1362
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:47,240
Speaker 3: has this one and minus one Green Bay. So tankicly

1363
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 3: is egos line. But I just think something's real trappy

1364
01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:54,480
Speaker 3: about this game. And yeah, this Eagles teams championship for him,

1365
01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:55,440
Speaker 3: Like you said, they've looked.

1366
01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:57,040
Speaker 4: This is gonna be a true test.

1367
01:05:57,080 --> 01:05:59,080
Speaker 3: This is a really good Green Bay team on the

1368
01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:02,520
Speaker 3: road after an embarrassing loss. You expect Laflor to get

1369
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:03,600
Speaker 3: these guys to bounce back.

1370
01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:05,880
Speaker 2: Yep, that's exactly yet, all right.

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01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:08,120
Speaker 1: I mean, we're gonna have a lot to talk about

1372
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 1: on Thursday because we got a lot a The trade

1373
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:11,800
Speaker 1: deadline I think is impacting some of this.

1374
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 2: We want to see where players end up.

1375
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:15,919
Speaker 1: Obviously, even while we were talking about this, we were

1376
01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:20,560
Speaker 1: considering the Jets and then they trade Sauce Gardner Denver

1377
01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:23,600
Speaker 1: minus eight and a half, as Simon says, we're thinking

1378
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:27,280
Speaker 1: about Miami plus nine and a half, the Giants plus

1379
01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:30,400
Speaker 1: three and a half against the Bears on the road Carolina.

1380
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:33,160
Speaker 1: We'd like it to wait to four and a half.

1381
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:36,560
Speaker 1: We hope it gets there. Jets minus one and a half.

1382
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:41,080
Speaker 1: We talked about we were hoping to get Houston. We

1383
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:42,840
Speaker 1: were hoping to get it at one and a half.

1384
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:45,760
Speaker 1: Who Tampa Bay minus two and a half. That is

1385
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 1: Chad's choice. Would you say Baltimore at four is still

1386
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 1: a playable number?

1387
01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:51,720
Speaker 4: I don't hate it.

1388
01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:54,680
Speaker 3: I'm just again, I think we had PTSD from last

1389
01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:58,480
Speaker 3: week where it's like we're betting a super public favorite

1390
01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:01,240
Speaker 3: on the road. That's what I'm trying to tell people.

1391
01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:03,520
Speaker 3: I you can get I'm more comfortable in the money line.

1392
01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:05,360
Speaker 3: I know it's not great because it's two to one

1393
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:08,200
Speaker 3: on your money, but I just I don't know. If

1394
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:09,880
Speaker 3: I bet two hundred and one hundred, what I feel

1395
01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:10,640
Speaker 3: is a pretty safe bet.

1396
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 4: I usually take that position.

1397
01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:15,000
Speaker 2: We'd like Houston to get to plus one.

1398
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:17,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, please you to get to a dog Yeah.

1399
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:19,400
Speaker 2: Detroit minus eight and a half.

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01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:22,840
Speaker 1: We'll see San Francisco plus three and a half, itchy,

1401
01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:24,680
Speaker 1: and then Green Bay minus two and a half. We're

1402
01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:26,520
Speaker 1: going to keep an eye on. So still a lot

1403
01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:28,760
Speaker 1: to discuss on Thursday. There's too much movement right now

1404
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:32,280
Speaker 1: to outside of our chat choice, and Simon says, to

1405
01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:35,720
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