1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of Papa's Perspective. I'm Bob Papa, 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: brought to you by Bob's Discount Furniture, the official furniture 3 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:09,120 Speaker 1: store and a Mattress partner all the New York Giants, 4 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:11,239 Speaker 1: and it has a great pleasure. We welcome in the 5 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: Giants third round draft pick in nineteen ninety one. Ed 6 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 1: McCaffrey joins us here on Papa's Perspective and Ed, time 7 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: goes by when you're having fun, what was it like 8 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:26,080 Speaker 1: when you found out as a player at Stanford that 9 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: you were going to the defending Super Bowl champions Yeah? 10 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 2: First off, Bob, thanks for having me on the show. 11 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:34,599 Speaker 2: I learned something new already. I didn't know you owned 12 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 2: a furniture store, but I think that's incredible. I don't 13 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 2: know how you have time to run a business with 14 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 2: your busy schedule, but I'll break down draft day for me. Okay, 15 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 2: if you can picture nineteen ninety one, though most of 16 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 2: our listeners can picture nineteen ninety one, but some of 17 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 2: them might be too young to remember, so they might 18 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 2: have watched the movie Napoleon Dynamite. Picture me in an 19 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 2: off campus house, sitting by a rotary phone, for those 20 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 2: of you that don't know what that is. It's the 21 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 2: one with the really long cord that Napoleon stretched two 22 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 2: rooms over while I sat on the couch and talked 23 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 2: to people on them. And that was me on this 24 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 2: rotary phone off campus house that I shared with like 25 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 2: twelve roommates, And you know, a couple of my buddies 26 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 2: kept calling throughout the day, which was really annoying because 27 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:22,559 Speaker 2: I'm thinking, that's my call, and is my buddy's asking 28 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 2: if I'd been drafted yet? Back then, they only drafted 29 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 2: three rounds on day one, so I should say they 30 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 2: drafted three rounds on day one today to do one round, 31 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 2: and only two of them were televised, and I was 32 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 2: the last pick of the third round. So I'm sitting 33 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 2: around waiting all day. They stopped the television feed and 34 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 2: I'm just waiting around for a phone call, not knowing 35 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 2: if I'm going to get the phone call, not even 36 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 2: knowing at what point of the draft we were in. 37 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 2: And so you know, my girlfriend at the time and 38 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 2: future wife, Lisa, and I were just hanging out at 39 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 2: the house. We walked down to molly Stone Market and 40 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 2: grabbed some lunch and sure enough, right as I was 41 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 2: starting to give up hope that I'd be drafted on 42 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 2: Day one, I got the call from Bill Parcells. And 43 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 2: you know, it wasn't exactly the red carpet treatment. It's like, hey, Ed, 44 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 2: we drafted you in the third round with the last pick. 45 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 2: You know, a very matter of fact, we have mini 46 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 2: camps on this these days. Look forward to see a 47 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 2: mini camp. That was it. The according to have a 48 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 2: lot of bells and whistles. I was excited because, as 49 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 2: we all know, the New York Football Giants won the 50 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,519 Speaker 2: Super Bowl the year before, So I was getting drafted 51 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 2: to play for a team that had just won a 52 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:33,239 Speaker 2: Super Bowl. You know, as a receiver, kind of looked 53 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 2: at the stat line and saw that the leading wide 54 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 2: receivers had twenty six catches the year before on the season. 55 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:41,519 Speaker 2: That might be a shock to sum of you, right, 56 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 2: but that wasn't in one game. That wasn't you know, 57 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 2: over a couple of games that was on the year. 58 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 2: But they did win the Super Bowl, and I was 59 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 2: excited to go to New York and I was excited 60 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 2: to play for a Super Bowl champion. Yeah. 61 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: It's kind of weird too, because you get drafted by 62 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: Parcels and then he resigns like during your mini camp. 63 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: So that was just sort of a bizarre transition into 64 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: the National Football League, wasn't it. 65 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. You know, I'm from Allentown, Pennsylvania. I went to 66 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 2: high school there, so I get the whole New York attitude, 67 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 2: and I get guys like Bill Parcels. I coaches like him, right, 68 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 2: He's very matter of fact. He's got a certain personality. 69 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 2: You can be edgy. You know. He didn't really roll 70 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:25,959 Speaker 2: out the red carpet frustrating that first mini camp either. 71 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 2: He said, Hey, look, you know, we're really glad that 72 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 2: all you guys are here. We're really glad that you're 73 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 2: going to compete for a chance to make the team. Obviously, 74 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 2: we just won the Super Bowl, so we don't need 75 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 2: any yeah, but hopefully some of you can help us 76 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 2: become a little bit better this season. And then a 77 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 2: couple of months later, he you know, stepped down. The 78 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 2: news at the time was that he had a hard issue, 79 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 2: so we were all hoping that he was doing well. 80 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 2: Obviously we know he came back and coached later for 81 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 2: the New York Jets, who he is the Denver Broncos 82 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 2: beating the AFC Championship Game. I don't mind adding, but 83 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 2: I was kind of looking forward to playing for him. 84 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 2: To tell you the truth, you know, he would He 85 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 2: had won a couple of Super Bowls. He was a 86 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 2: legendary coach already, and I kind of liked his attitude. 87 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 2: I kind of liked his edge and his honesty and 88 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 2: that he didn't hold anything back. So I missed opportunity 89 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 2: to play for a legendary coach, but still had some 90 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 2: pretty great teammates and great coaches and had a wonderful experience. Yeah. 91 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 2: I mean you could say you played with Lawrence Taylor. 92 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 2: That's a pretty cool thing. Yeah. Well, as a matter 93 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 2: of fact, I'll share this story. So I held out 94 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 2: for like eight days, which was frowned upon back in 95 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 2: the day, but I did. And you know, Trainy Cam 96 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 2: was in Fairly Dickenson at Fairley Dinckoinson University and my 97 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 2: first day of practice when I finally signed my contract. 98 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 2: You know, back in the day, he signed the contract 99 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 2: get out to practice. So I signed right before the 100 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 2: morning and afternoon practice. We had double days at Fairly Dickinson. 101 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 2: They had a makeshift locker room made out of wooden 102 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 2: lockers in the auxiliary basketball gym. So I walked through 103 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 2: the locker room and I look for my and of course, 104 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 2: you know, in you know, the white athletic tape with 105 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 2: the sharpie, my name was written above my locker and 106 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 2: it was spelled incorrectly. Of course, they went with e 107 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 2: er Y instead of Riy. So again I'm like, wow, 108 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 2: they don't even know how to spell my name. This 109 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 2: is crazy. It's in the program. But my locker was 110 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 2: situated right between Lawrence Taylor and Carl Banks. I know, 111 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 2: you know both of those guys pretty well, and I 112 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 2: haven't met either one of these guys yet. I know 113 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 2: they're legendary linebackers for the Giants. They were veterans at 114 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 2: that point in their careers. LT's story preceded him, all right. 115 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 2: Everybody knew about LT on and off the field. So 116 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 2: I sit down, and you know, LT talks across me. 117 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 2: I haven't met either one of them yet. There was 118 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 2: no formal introduction to my teammates. I'm just on the team, 119 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 2: gets to practice and he's talking to Carl across me. 120 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 2: I'm in the middle of both these guys. And for 121 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 2: those who don't know, these guys were like six five 122 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty pounds. They're big dudes, and they're 123 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 2: all pro linebackers, and they've won a couple of Super Bowls, 124 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 2: and again the reputation precedes them. And LT goes, hey, man, 125 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 2: I'm missing the cleat. Man, you see my cleat And 126 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 2: Carl was like, no, I think this dude took it. 127 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 2: And they both stand up as I'm sitting in my 128 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 2: locker and it was intimidating, to say the least, and 129 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 2: I'm thinking, Okay, this might be my last day of 130 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 2: practice with the New York Giants. On my first day 131 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 2: of practice with the New York Giants. But then LT 132 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 2: slapped me on the back and said, oh man, we're 133 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 2: just messing with you, and we all walk out to practice. 134 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 2: But first split second, I thought, wow, what a way 135 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 2: to be introduced to the NFL. Hav An LT and 136 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 2: Carl Banks stand up and throw down in the locker 137 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 2: room on my first day of practice. 138 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 1: And after you left the Giants, you went to San Francisco, 139 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: you won a Super Bowl with the Niners, and then 140 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: of course you won those back to back Super Bowls 141 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 1: with the Denver Broncos and had an incredible career. But 142 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: You've also had an incredible life after football, not only 143 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: raising your children, but you were involved in broadcasting, you 144 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: coached on the high school level, you coached on the khalikt. 145 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: But you also have this family business and I see 146 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: the product is behind you McCaffrey brand foods. You got 147 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: the mustards, now you have the McCaffrey protein bites that 148 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: are wildly successful. Talk about this venture into this other 149 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:23,119 Speaker 1: business of and just reading the website, how it really 150 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: has become a family affair. 151 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 2: And I definitely want to talk about that. But first 152 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 2: I would be remiss if I didn't thank all of 153 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 2: the New York Football Giants fans because I know you 154 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 2: get a lot of fans that watch the show who 155 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 2: have always supported me throughout my entire career. Because it 156 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 2: wasn't everybody, but there's a lot of diehard Giants fans 157 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 2: who really gave me a lot of sport even after 158 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 2: I left the team. So thank you, and I dug 159 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 2: this out. I have a show to you. I dug 160 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 2: this out. People barely remember my career with the New 161 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 2: York Football Giants, but this is the Rookie of the 162 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 2: Year award that was handed out at the Big banquet 163 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 2: they had before the next season. Oh yeah, I have 164 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 2: the trophy to prove it. And then I did lead 165 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 2: the team my second year in the So those are 166 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 2: some forgotten years because Bill Parcels retired, and you know, 167 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 2: the veteran players like LT retired and Carl Banks went 168 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 2: on to play for another team, and Phil Simmson hostel 169 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 2: Are all started leaving, so they're kind of the forgotten years. 170 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 2: But I did have a wonderful time there and had 171 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 2: an incredible support from the New York Football Giants fan 172 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 2: base and had some amazing teammates, many Hall of famers, 173 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 2: so good memories there. But yeah, then, you know, after that, 174 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 2: I decided to go to a team I thought had 175 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 2: a chance to win a Super Bowl. That was my criteria. 176 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 2: It wasn't a number of catches or anything else. So 177 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 2: I picked the forty nine Ers. Thank goodness, I worked 178 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 2: my tail off and made the team. We won a 179 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 2: Super Bowl, and then within five years we won two 180 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 2: more so three super Bowls in five years. It was 181 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:39,319 Speaker 2: a pretty good run. And I found a home in 182 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 2: Denver with the Broncos. And while we were winning Super Bowls, 183 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 2: I did come out with some food products. You know 184 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 2: how athletes will do right. McCaffrey's Rocky Mountain Mustard. This 185 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 2: is the og our spicy brown product. And remember when 186 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 2: I was talking about molly Stones Market at Stanford while 187 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 2: Lisa and I were grabbing lunch while I was waiting 188 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 2: to get drafted. We used to go there like every 189 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 2: day and I was you know, wait was always an 190 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 2: issue for me. I had to be healthy. I was 191 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:06,079 Speaker 2: obviously playing college sportswear to be a pro athlete, and 192 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 2: I gain weight really easily, so I you know, mustard 193 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 2: is naturally healthy and adds a ton of flavor to food. 194 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 2: So we have turkey, lettuce, tomato, onion on what was 195 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 2: a Dutch crunch roll. May be familiar with that role 196 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 2: every day for lunch, and so you know, spicy brow 197 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 2: mustard added a lot of flavor. So a guy approached 198 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 2: me about creating a cereal at first, and we did 199 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 2: ds en zone O's, which was pretty cool. It was 200 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 2: like me jumping through a frosted cheerio and just like 201 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 2: Fluty Flakes or Always Crunch or some of those other 202 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 2: cereal products. It lasted for a couple of years while 203 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 2: we're winning Super Bowls, and we did Eddie Mac and cheese, 204 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 2: and we did some other food products. But my day 205 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 2: job was playing football, so it wasn't my business. I 206 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 2: was lending my name in likeness to a food product. 207 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 2: I picked the food products out, especially the mustard, because 208 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 2: that was one I wouldn't have thought of. Business partner asked, 209 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:56,959 Speaker 2: you know, what are the foods that I eat every day? 210 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 2: And I'm like, look, I'm really regimented. He's super healthy. 211 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 2: The one thing I put on almost all my food 212 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 2: is spicy brown mustard, thinking that he would not want 213 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 2: to run with that one, right, Cereal is the sexy 214 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 2: food product, it's not mustard. So and I said, I'll 215 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 2: only put my name on it if it's the best 216 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 2: in the world. So he said, well, let me go 217 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 2: to work and investigated and researched a lot of different manufacturers. 218 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 2: So we found out with it. So we found any 219 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 2: incredible manufacturer we still work with today. These guys are 220 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 2: the best, and they created you know, about one hundred 221 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 2: different flavor profiles and iterations of spicy brown mustard. I 222 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 2: personally taste tested all of them. I like to think 223 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 2: of myself as a super taster. I like food and 224 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 2: have very powerful and accurate taste buds in my opinion, 225 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 2: and so obviously I think it's the best in the world, 226 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 2: because I'm the one who's sampled one hundred different flavor 227 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:47,959 Speaker 2: profiles until I picked the one I liked the best, 228 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 2: and I kind of fell in love with spice brown mustard, 229 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 2: even going back to high school in Allentown, Pennsylvania, dipping 230 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 2: soft pretzels at the Allentown Fair and the spice brown 231 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 2: mustard and eating them and then you know, as a 232 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 2: healthy condiment. So he decided to go with it, and 233 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 2: that's what really started our mustard and sorry Horse Radish, 234 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 2: you got them all business. And then we've expanded to 235 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 2: beer mustard. We have smoky Horse Radish, we have seracha 236 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 2: and Chipotle, We're coming out with the chicken dipping sauce 237 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 2: this year, and whole a lot of other products. And 238 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 2: our whole business is simply make good food taste better. Look, 239 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 2: a lot of people want to eat good foods, they 240 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 2: want neat healthy foods, they want to try to be healthy, 241 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 2: but they don't want to sacrifice taste. That's what we do, 242 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 2: make good food taste better. It's not a crazy business. 243 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 2: We go to the lab and create a bunch of 244 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 2: different recipes until he come up with the flavors that 245 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 2: we like the best. We try them out on the 246 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 2: public and kind of source them to see if people 247 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 2: like them, and then we give people what they want, 248 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 2: you know, great tasting condomists to make the food taste better. Now, 249 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 2: when we got into our protein snack business, this was 250 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 2: a different category. Got the picture of the family on 251 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 2: the back, Lisa and I and then Max, Christian, Dylan 252 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 2: and Luke. You know, we're a family of athletes and 253 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 2: we love good food, especially when you're playing on your 254 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 2: off day, right, but you got to eat healthy throughout 255 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,559 Speaker 2: the week and throughout your career as a pro athlete 256 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,199 Speaker 2: or just somebody wants to stay in shape, right, And 257 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 2: so we wanted to come up with a food product 258 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 2: that wasn't causing allergies or food intolerances, especially with younger athletes. 259 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 2: So many athletes have gluten and peanut allergies and all 260 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 2: kinds of different food allergies. So it's gluten free, non gmo, 261 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 2: plant based protein. So it's high in protein, super healthy, localorie, 262 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 2: and it can be eaten as a snack, It can 263 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 2: be eaten as a halftime snack, pregame, post game in 264 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 2: your car, picking up car pool at work, during a podcast. 265 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 2: And so the challenge with creating a healthy food product 266 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 2: that's high in protein is getting it to taste good. 267 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 2: We all know that we've all bitten into a protein 268 00:12:56,280 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 2: bar that tastes medicine or shocky or bitter, and so 269 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 2: for three years, we really couldn't come up with something 270 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,839 Speaker 2: that I would put our name on. And finally we 271 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 2: found an incredible manufacturer who could create a food product 272 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 2: that I thought tasted great. And I haven't met anyone 273 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 2: that doesn't think it tastes great. Everyone seems to really 274 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 2: love it. So we have flavor profiles that I think 275 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 2: people like chocolate chip, cookie, dough, fudge, brownie, birthday cake. 276 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 2: We're going to expand into some other lines that we 277 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 2: have conn of wan Anounce until they're out, but it's 278 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 2: really been a fast growing category for us. And look, 279 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 2: everybody eat, so instead of you know, making good food 280 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 2: taste better, is make healthy food taste great. So that's 281 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 2: our goal with our healthy snack line, make healthy food 282 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 2: taste great, and it's hard to do. It's harder to 283 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 2: do than you think, but we think we have a winner. 284 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: So add in the final question here, obviously an accomplished athlete, 285 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: what lessons did you learn playing football that you now 286 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 1: apply to your business. 287 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great question. I think you know, when 288 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 2: you're a little kid, you play just because you want 289 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 2: to have fun. I still think you want to have 290 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 2: fun running a business. But you learn things playing the 291 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 2: sport of football that you're not thinking about when you're younger. 292 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 2: You're learning about teamwork and hard work and communication and 293 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 2: really working together with people from all walks of life 294 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 2: to be part of something bigger than yourself. And that's 295 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 2: what running the business is, right. You know, I can't 296 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 2: do this by myself. I work with fifty to sixty 297 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 2: different people, probably fifteen to twenty on our team, and 298 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 2: then other partners that we work with in the industry. 299 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 2: And so to the extent that I can fulfill my 300 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 2: duties as you know, founder and CEO or head coach, 301 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 2: I have to surround myself with really talented, hard working 302 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 2: people with integrity, help get them on the bus, put 303 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 2: them in the right seats, and then keep them on 304 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 2: the bus as long as possible, working towards our goals 305 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 2: of making good food taste great and good food taste better, 306 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 2: and healthy food tastes great, and so it's really just 307 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 2: like football, your ability to communicate, inspire and work with 308 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 2: other people and find a way to put them in 309 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 2: a position to utilize their skill sets to the best 310 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:12,359 Speaker 2: of their abilities. 311 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: Ed, we appreciate a couple of minutes joining us here 312 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: on Papa's Perspective. Thank you so much for sharing your time, 313 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: and we wish you the best of luck with the product. 314 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 2: Thank you, Bob. 315 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: That's this edition of Papa's Perspective, brought to you by 316 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: Bob's Discount Furniture, the official furniture store and a Mattress 317 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 1: partner of the New York Giants.