1 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 1: To the OTP. It's the free Philadelphia pre season edition 2 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: of the OTP. My name is Mike. Keith amy Wells 3 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: is here as always, Hello Mike, and it is another 4 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: rendition of the Mac and three OTP, the best kind 5 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: of OTP. The Great Jim White from Titans Online dot 6 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: Com is here. Happy to be here with his Pro 7 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: Bowl visor. Yeah, Jim Watt's really showing us all up 8 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: with the visor game today. It's a different look I 9 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: usually were. I usually were a white visor, and I've 10 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: had to do a double tech a couple of times 11 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 1: when I've looked in the mirror and seen a red visor. 12 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:46,160 Speaker 1: And this is actually a gift from our Pro Bowl 13 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: punter Brett Kern, who was my long term neighbor and 14 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: moved out within the last couple of years, and he 15 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: did give me a visor as as a parting gift. 16 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: That's nice. You don't usually get gifts when people move away. 17 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: That's kind of nice. Yeah, and he had moved out 18 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: by the time he had gone to this Pro Bowl. 19 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 1: I guess glad to know he's still Thank you. Dave 20 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 1: McGinnis from Titans Radio is here. Welcome coach Mac. So 21 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: good to be back. Mac and three is such huge ratings. 22 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: It is. It's because of the three, not Mac. It's 23 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: because of the three. It is. It is so massive, 24 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 1: all right. So what we're gonna do is we're going 25 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 1: to preview the first preseason game and it is at Philadelphia. 26 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: It is Thursday night, Titans and the Eagles. Doing it 27 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: a little differently and preparing for the first preseason game 28 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: on the OTP. I have selected thirteen names of players 29 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: who we think will play. And they're not starters. They're 30 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: just names we think you need to know. And I 31 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: want thoughts from the group, all of whom have watched 32 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: virtually all of the practices so far. Let's start with 33 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: Logan Woodside, the quarterback the first year May and out 34 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: of Toledo. A lot of discussion about him recently with 35 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: people having seen him in the public practices, the scrimmage, 36 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: and they're saying, is this guy a little better than 37 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: what we thought? Jim White, he was better than he 38 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 1: was when he was here last time, and then he 39 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: got some experience obviously playing the American Football League this 40 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 1: offseason and decided to bring him back. He's fun to 41 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: watch me run round there and makes plays. Ask mikel 42 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: Rabel about him after practice today, and he raved about him. 43 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: I mean, he's the guy that this team genuinely likes. 44 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 1: He's got a strong arm, you know, he's he can scramble, 45 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: run a little bit. You know. Always wonder, especially end 46 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 1: today's NFL, how a team can keep a third quarterback 47 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: just because you need guys on the back end the 48 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: roster that can play. But I think the way he's 49 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: played so far, and the fact that this team doesn't 50 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: have a quarterback under contract for two twenty kind of 51 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: will give you some reason to think, hey, we need 52 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: to hold onto this guy and let him further develop. 53 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: You like him, yeah, I like him. I mean he 54 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 1: played for the San Antonio Commanders, you know, in the 55 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: in the Alliance League that that's what he played with, 56 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: and and that was a good league, you know, for 57 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: just those guys to get reps, to get live reps, 58 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: you know, against people they had some restrictions on the rush. Anyway, 59 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: just watching him out here, the thing that I see 60 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,519 Speaker 1: that that that he needs to improve on. He does 61 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 1: have a strong arm. He's got a strong arm, and 62 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 1: he looks like he's got command of the huddle and 63 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: those types of things. But he needs better anticipation because 64 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: you see him hanging onto the ball a little bit 65 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: some and I think that comes just working against and 66 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: I agree with you, he's better than he was and 67 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: because he had live action to throw against. But to me, 68 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: the biggest thing that he needs to do is anticipation. 69 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: Trigger the thing quicker, because he's got enough arm to 70 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: fit it into tight windows. Have you seen anybody's mock 71 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: fifty three that had the Titans keeping three quarterbacks? Amy, 72 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: not a single one. I haven't seen one either. One. 73 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: I can't say that. I think it would be hard 74 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: to you do. Yes, all right, So Jim gave a 75 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: practical reason because the thought is if you keep him, 76 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: he could end up being your backup quarterback next year. 77 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: That's a that's a thought. But from a football standpoint, 78 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 1: if you decide to keep three, what does Logan Woodside 79 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: have to show starting in Philadelphia and in the other 80 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 1: three preseason games to just force John Robinson to say, 81 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 1: you know what, we've got to hang onto this guy? Well, 82 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 1: what what do he has to do? As he has 83 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: to have enough production that you think that if you 84 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 1: release him that somebody will put him on their active roster. 85 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: That's what he has to do. I mean that's the 86 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: way you look at it. If you look at it 87 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: as to you know, how proficient has he been, and 88 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: then how proficient has he been in the other thirty 89 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,679 Speaker 1: one eyes that are out there looking at him. Would 90 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 1: somebody claim him and put him on their fifty three? 91 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: But holy smokes, he I mean he would have to 92 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: turn water into wine basically, because you have to think 93 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 1: of all of the different things. He's not going to 94 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: be active at any point during a game, you wouldn't 95 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: think barring some sort of trauma. Plus, we have a 96 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: spot that we need to keep someone to be an 97 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: offensive lineman for the fresh fourth. But the thing that 98 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 1: you say, though, is if Jeffrey Simmons stays on NFI, 99 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 1: then you've got you don't have to do anything with 100 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: him right away. He doesn't count against the fifty three. 101 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: And if Taylor Lawance suspension holds up, then he doesn't 102 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 1: count against the fifty three. So in essence, you might 103 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: have a spot to carry him for a little while, 104 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 1: to the point that even when those guys came back, 105 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 1: if you had to move him back to practice squad, 106 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: you might be able to get him back more easily. 107 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: The Titans maybe have fifty five roster spots to work 108 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: with instead of fifty three coming from the ninety right. 109 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: And you can't help but wonder if what happened last 110 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: season maybe gives them reason to paulse when considering what 111 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: to do with him, because this team want to keep 112 00:05:56,279 --> 00:06:00,159 Speaker 1: Luke Falk and develop him, and he gets released and 113 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: then they never did end up getting him back, and 114 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: now they've kind of moved on. So I would think 115 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 1: you might think longer. And that's a good point about 116 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: just the flexibility that you might have early on in 117 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 1: the scenario that it might be easier to get him 118 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 1: through waivers if you'll wait until the season's going all right. 119 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 1: So number five Logan Woodsite third quarterback, A guy to watch. 120 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 1: Jim wrote about this guy this week fourteen calif Raymond 121 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: wide receiver, knocking on the door. He's been cut eight 122 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,359 Speaker 1: times in his Career's played for Denvers, played for the Jets, 123 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: He's played for the Giants. He's actually been here before 124 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: this offseason, and today again he's running with the once. 125 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: I mean, Corey Davis had his work scaled back, you know, 126 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 1: during the midway portion of practice, but you looked out 127 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 1: there again and it was it was Taja Sharp and 128 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 1: it was Adam Humphries and it was Calif Raymond out 129 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: there as the three receivers on the field. And he 130 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: has been good catching the football. He's been good getting 131 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: open in tight spaces. He's been good. There was a 132 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 1: play today where he put a move on Logan Ryan 133 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: and ran right past him and it was five yards 134 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: past him. So he has been really scrappy, and he talks. 135 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: He's talked about how much he has followed Steve Smith's 136 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: career and all the little guys who have had success 137 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: and knows that he's going to have to keep going 138 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: to have a chance to stick. And is he a 139 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: long shot, Yes, But the more I'll watch him, the 140 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: more I think it's gonna be tough with him to 141 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: cut him. You still think he's a long shot. I 142 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: still think he's the sixth if they're six. So, I mean, 143 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: and this is just me doing the math. I mean, 144 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: I think it's between him and Dar's Raymond at this point. 145 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, there's Jennings at this point. And with what 146 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: Jenny's can do in the return game, I mean, it 147 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: makes some valuable So I mean, I say, if the 148 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: team keeps seven. He's on it six. Big question more, 149 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: Amy Wells, do you believe I think that if I'm 150 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: a guy like Darius Jennings or Taywan Taylor, I'm feeling 151 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: him breathing down my neck a little bit, you know. 152 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: I think that if Calif Raymond has a strong showing 153 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: in the first couple preseason games, when we know he's 154 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: going to get a lot of reps, I think that 155 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: there is a spot that maybe up for grabs, and 156 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: I think that he could do some good for himself 157 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: and maybe knock some of these guys who we right 158 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: now think might be a shoe in for those spots. 159 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: I think there's a chance that he could be the 160 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 1: upset guy. Calif Raymond has got respect of his team 161 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: and you can see that and you can see that 162 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: in practice, and that's big. Now. Calif Raymond, he's not 163 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 1: brand new in this league. He's been around and he 164 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: understands and he's got just enough gidget gadget to him 165 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: that I mean he can get open. And Jim's right 166 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: and Amy said it too. He can run. I mean 167 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 1: he can run, and he's been through enough NFL that 168 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: he's not going to be wiled by it, but he's 169 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: he's gotten the respect of this football team. I mean, 170 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: this guy, this guy's in the mix. This guy's in 171 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: the mix, and if he does anything return wise in 172 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: these preseason games, that's gonna up his annie, all right. 173 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: And before we moved from him, I mean, you can't 174 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: help but think that Cameron. What happened to Cameron bats 175 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: and obviously opened the door for him, because I think 176 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: if Cameron Batson is still healthy and running around out there, 177 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 1: I think Calif Rayman's a definite long shot. But now 178 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: the door is cracked just a little bit, and you know, 179 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: one injury away from probably being on the roster. Let 180 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: me just say something else about these guys that go 181 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: through the car washars a few times in this league, 182 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: because I've been around a bunch of them. They know, 183 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,839 Speaker 1: and so it once they get to a place where 184 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:45,559 Speaker 1: they feel like they've got their foot in the door 185 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 1: a little bit, it's hard to dislodge him because he's 186 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: you know, and Mike Keiths been on this guy from 187 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: the from the start, and I mean it just you know, 188 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: for the honest truths, just when us were talking looking 189 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:57,719 Speaker 1: and if you spend time watching this guy, he's got 190 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: something to him. All right, let's talk running back, because 191 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: that's gonna be one of the most interesting spots to 192 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: watch Thursday night in Philly. Derrick Henry not gonna go. 193 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 1: We know that he's been out. How much they do 194 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 1: with Dion Lewis. He's in his eighth year, twenty nine 195 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: years old, probably not gonna do a lot. So it's 196 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: gonna be David Fluellen, Jeremy McNichols, Daylon Dawkins, and Alex Barns. 197 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 1: Before we talk about Barnes at a certain point, everybody, 198 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: I want everybody to see him before we do it. 199 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 1: Dave McGinnis, give me your thoughts on where you think 200 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: Dylan Dawkins and Jeremy McNichols are entering Philadelphia and what 201 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: you need to see. I think they're neck and neck. 202 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: And if you're asking me for the guy that has 203 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: stood out to me watching these guys, it's McNichols. I mean, 204 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: because this guy, this guy is really good. He's got 205 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 1: a nice stem to his routes when he runs it, 206 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 1: he knows how to set up linebackers. He does a 207 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: nice job of creating space for himself. He can catch 208 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 1: the football, I mean you go back to Boise State 209 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 1: and you watch and see what he did at Boise 210 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,199 Speaker 1: I mean, he caught a lot of balls at Boise State. 211 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: And really the times that he has moved down, he's 212 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: moved around the league something too, but it has not 213 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:10,319 Speaker 1: been because of physical ability, all right, and guys grow up, 214 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: guys mature. But both these guys are very similar to me. 215 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: But if you were to tell me right now, Mac, 216 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: you've got to pick one to go with. I like McNichols. 217 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: I like mc nichols because I think he's a little 218 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 1: bit more fluid in the pass game. I agree with 219 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: that he's fast. We know he's fast. We've seen him 220 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: out there switching into what looks like another gear. But 221 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: Coach Mack hit the nail on the head with what 222 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 1: I was going to say. His hands are very very good. 223 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: You see him pass, catch a lot of passes and 224 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: also hang on to them. There aren't a lot of 225 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: balls dropped when it comes to Jeremy McNichols, and I 226 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 1: think that that's going to be a huge asset for 227 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 1: him as we continue through camp. Yeah, and I thought, 228 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 1: I think Dawkins is going to have a hard time 229 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: just because of McNichols, and I think something else I'm 230 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:58,079 Speaker 1: going to keep in mind because I was talking to 231 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: I guess James Palmer, that's here from an fil network 232 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: today and he's been in a lot of different NFL 233 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: training camps. He most recently was in Philadelphia. He talked 234 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: about all the depth they have and he mentions mentioned 235 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: to me how they've got so many running backs on 236 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: their roster, and I'm looking at their depth chart and 237 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 1: guys who will likely stay. I see somebody doing a 238 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: projected depth chart that has Jordan Howard, Miles Sanders, a rookie, 239 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 1: Darren Sproles, and Corey Clement said they're probably choosing between 240 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: Josh Adams or Wendell's Smallwood for a fifth spot if 241 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: they keep five. So if somebody, and this is going 242 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: to happen throughout the preseason, but you potentially could see 243 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 1: some guys you're playing against here in Philadelphia who could 244 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 1: become available when the fifty three, when the cuts are 245 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 1: down to fifty three. Same thing when the Patriots come 246 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:43,679 Speaker 1: next week. Same thing when you go throughout the preseason. 247 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: So while we're talking and analyzing between McNichols and Dawkins, 248 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: there could be some other guys on the equation that 249 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: could jump on the radar by what we see in 250 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 1: the preseason. Great point, they're competing against the rest of 251 00:12:56,679 --> 00:13:00,319 Speaker 1: the market, not just guys on their own ross. True, 252 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: and it's one of the problems with being a running 253 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:05,839 Speaker 1: back in this league that Ezekiel Elliott and Melvin Gordon 254 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: are finding out right now. Teams don't want to pay 255 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: the big dollar because running backs are plentiful. No, and really, 256 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I'll expand on that just a minute. We'll 257 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: get to your Baker's doesn't here, which I think is 258 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 1: a great idea. But Todd Gurley and Levon Baill they 259 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: blew the top off the market. They blew the top 260 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: off the market, and you've got a lot of clubs going, huh, 261 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: that's not our market. And then you see what's happening 262 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 1: to Gurley, you see what's going on with Bill. I mean, 263 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: it's the whole running back thing still, all right. Kareem 264 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: or number thirty two, one of number thirty two flew 265 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 1: Ellen obviously on offense. Kareem more on defense from Chattanooga, 266 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:48,839 Speaker 1: made the team as a tryout player in camp, and 267 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:52,319 Speaker 1: he's kind of an Amy Wells favorite. Amy Wells likes 268 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: those stories and those guys who just keep showing up. 269 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: What is it about Kareem war and why should we 270 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 1: watch him? Thursday night, Kareem Moore was a guy who 271 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: really caught my attention. I mean, he's always he's been 272 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:06,559 Speaker 1: around through camp and he keeps showing up and showing 273 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 1: up and showing up. And then if the scrimmage, he 274 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: made play after play after play. We were sitting in 275 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 1: the booth and we probably said his name, what six 276 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: or seven times, Kareem Moore, Kareem Moore. So he's a 277 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: guy who when Coach Vrabel talks about making improvement and 278 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: continuing to see guys show up and show up, that's 279 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: what we've seen out of Kareem Ore. And so for me, 280 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: I'm excited to watch if he continues to on bigger 281 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: and bigger stages and bigger and bigger moments, continue to 282 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: show up, continue to make those plays because we know 283 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: that Mike Vrabel is going to keep putting him in 284 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: situations to make more plays. So if he can capitalize 285 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: on that, I think that he's going to be one 286 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: of those guys to watch. The kids got a little 287 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: bit of a GPS to the ball. I mean, he 288 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: really does. But the thing, the thing, Kareem Moore, that 289 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: position group is the hardest to crack. Yeah, that's a 290 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: hard one to crack on this team. And to you 291 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: guys points about across around the league. Look, you bring 292 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: fifteen or sixteen dbs to camp, everybody does, okay, and 293 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: so that it's not only a hard nut to crack 294 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: on this team, it's a hard nut to crack in 295 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: the league. But for that reason, I ask you this question. 296 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: If Kareem More is so impressive that John Robinson just 297 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: says I can't part with him even if I've got 298 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: five corners, I gotta keep a sixth because that's such 299 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: a hard valuable position to keep depth. Does he win 300 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: a spot over one of the running backs knowing I 301 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: can go get another running back when I need one 302 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: from a numbers game, I just think it's hard him. 303 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: If if you if you like him, if you like 304 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 1: him by what you've seen so far, and think he 305 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: could be on the fifty three, I think I'd start 306 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: trying to hide him and not play him a lot 307 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: in the presea because because there's he's not I mean 308 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: looking at the cornerback spot Logan, Ryan Doory, Jackson, you know, 309 00:15:56,240 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: and obviously Malcolm Butler or your top three. But Smith, 310 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: I think is having a really good camp. Sims making 311 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: two great plays today and it continues to play well. 312 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: Kenneth Durden as a solid player who's been around here 313 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: for a while even and Joshua Kalu can play safety 314 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: in corner. So I just have a hard time seeing 315 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: where or could make the roster. So if you think 316 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: he could potentially be a practice squad guy, I wouldn't 317 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: put him out there a lot, all right, one guy 318 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: who's not going to be a practice squad guy as 319 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: a money hooker. My question about him, as Titans fans 320 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: have heard us all hype him, how will we see 321 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: him used in the preseason towards how he will help 322 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: this team in the regular season. I think he plays 323 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: a ton, I mean, and I think he's gonna be 324 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: played at a couple of different spots. And we've seen 325 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: him running with the first group, and they've had extra 326 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: you know, situational packages where they've had you know, three 327 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: safeties on the field, and we're not going to see 328 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: you know, Vacara and Bard out there much. But I 329 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: think you're gonna see him. I'm running the show a 330 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: lot of times on Thursday night in Philadelphia, and we 331 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: talk about or having instincts. I mean, any Hooker seems 332 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: like he's always around the ball. He's a tough kid. Uh. 333 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:16,120 Speaker 1: He's impressed me more than any of the rookie so far. 334 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: And that's kind of easy to say because Nate Davis 335 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 1: hasn't been out there last several days. You know, A. J. 336 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: Brown's not practicing. But Hooker has been the best rookies 337 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 1: to date. Good Hooker has really been the best rookie 338 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: since they showed up, if you want to go through it. 339 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: Just as far as consistency with what goes on, Jim, 340 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back to one of your comments. You know, 341 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 1: you can't hide anybody that sleeping. He's going out, David. 342 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: You are going out Davis on us, and you can't 343 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 1: hide anybody anymore. And the fact that you just said 344 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: it on the MAC and three now he's not hitting 345 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: it all anyway. A mighty hooker And and and I'm gonna, 346 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 1: you know, break all of our arms patting our own 347 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 1: backs because when we had the OTP in here prior 348 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: to the draft, he was a big discussion for us 349 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: because when you watch him on tape and you knew 350 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 1: what was out there, and plus you knew the history 351 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 1: of John Robinson. Elect way he found Kevin Byard, it's 352 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:09,199 Speaker 1: the same way with this kid. This kid has an 353 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 1: ease about him back there that was evident from day one. 354 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: We had We had Kirk ferens On talking about him 355 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 1: when we drafted him, after we did the post draft show, 356 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:20,959 Speaker 1: and this guy is a football player, pure and simple. 357 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: He's a football player. He's going to be a big 358 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:26,880 Speaker 1: part of this defense. I love the player. I love 359 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:30,199 Speaker 1: the player because I like the way he handles it. 360 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: I like the way he approaches it, and I just 361 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 1: like like I like his bannerisms on the field. Look, 362 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 1: there's a difference between being fast and in a hurry. 363 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 1: If you're in a hurry, you're Frannic, all right. This 364 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 1: kid plays fast, he sees things. I love this player. 365 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 1: I think that coach Matt gave him the best compliment 366 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,120 Speaker 1: I've ever heard you give a rookie when he said, 367 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: this guy looks like he knows what he's doing. And 368 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 1: this was pretty early in camp. He said, most times 369 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: rookies look like puppies in traffic, and he did not 370 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 1: look like that. That's why Bayard was I never want 371 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 1: to look like a puppy in traffic, So that seems 372 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: like a good compliment. Yeah, it is. Else doesn't want 373 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,400 Speaker 1: to look like one. Jordan Williams, one of the newest 374 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: Titans picked up last week outside linebacker, five years removed 375 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:22,199 Speaker 1: from the University of Tennessee. Has played in NFL games 376 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: on active rosters, but still trying to find a home 377 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:31,160 Speaker 1: in the outside linebacker group. And they're still sort of 378 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: shuffling it. I mean, Cameron Wakes there, and Kreya is there, 379 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: Landry's there and Finches there, but after that, nothing is 380 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: really set. LaTroy Lewis has had some moments in camp. 381 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 1: DeAndre Walker banged up right now but was playing well. 382 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: Derek Roberson, the rookie undrafted from sam Houston, shows flashes 383 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: big time. But is there a spot for somebody to 384 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: emerge out of nowhere? And could it be Jordan Williams. 385 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 1: He's an intriguing guy. I mean, we talked about him 386 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: a little bit earlier just to his path and he 387 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: last played in college in twenty fourteen. So certainly not 388 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: a puppy in traffic because he's been around for a while. 389 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: I mean he's been with the Jets, he's been with 390 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 1: the Giants, he's been with the Dolphins. Now he's here. 391 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:23,959 Speaker 1: He's still hanging around. I do wonder if there is 392 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: a fifth outside linebacker to keep whether he's competing against 393 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: another Tennessee vall in LaTroy Lewis, because I noticed I 394 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: noticed Lewis a lot out here on the practice field. 395 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: All right, So that's Jordan Williams, the outside linebacker on 396 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 1: the other side, a former defensive end, Parker has He 397 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:47,439 Speaker 1: from Iowa getting a chance to play tight end for 398 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 1: the Titans. Many people are saying, hey, they're getting Parker 399 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 1: has he in there quite a bit? How about his progress? 400 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 1: Dave mckinn athlete. He's an athlete, And look, this kid 401 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,199 Speaker 1: could not have come to a better place with a 402 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: head coach that did this for a career. Okay, made 403 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: you know switch and you know we all know what 404 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: Rabel did playing tight end in those goal line situations 405 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 1: for Belichick. This guy's an athlete. If you just focus 406 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: in on him and watch him do drills, You watch 407 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 1: him do individual drills, you watch him do feet drills, 408 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,479 Speaker 1: you watch him do you know this this. I like 409 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: this kid. Now, this kid, it's going to take some 410 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: development for him to do it, because I mean he's 411 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 1: doing a complete total, you know, flip around around the 412 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 1: globe with what he's having to do. But this guy's 413 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: an athlete. Now this is this is this to me, 414 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 1: was really smart bringing an athlete in here. He If 415 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 1: you go back and check his history, he was a 416 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 1: multi sport athlete in high school. And when he went 417 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: to Iowa, he was not he was didn't sign a 418 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: scholarship as any positional player at Iowa. He signed a 419 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: scholarship there as an athlete. That's what he is. I 420 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 1: like him. I would like to sneak him on Jim 421 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 1: Wyatt's sneaky list if we're putting together a list of 422 00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: people that we want to sneak onto the practice, because 423 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,360 Speaker 1: this is a guy that I think with a year 424 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: under his belt to kind of a red shirt. Yeah, 425 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 1: basically exactly, get a year to kind of get himself oriented, 426 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: really understand the finer points of playing the tight end position. 427 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 1: He's got the athleticism to do it, he needs the knowledge, 428 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 1: he needs the skill set. So if we could sneak 429 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: him on, put him on the list, and part of 430 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: it too. That's an interesting point is there's some guys 431 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 1: who are playing for the active roster and then there 432 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 1: are some guys who are playing for the practice squad. 433 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 1: And that's not a bad thing, especially if you're a 434 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,919 Speaker 1: guy you've changed side to the ball, you're learning a 435 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: new position. Job doesn't pay bad. I think it pays 436 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: seventy six hundred dollars a week or I don't worry. Yeah, 437 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,919 Speaker 1: I mean, it's not bad. It's not big money, but 438 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: it's a real chance to get in this league and 439 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,959 Speaker 1: it is. I mean coach macmission about him being an athlete. 440 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 1: I'll look back at his career and he played in 441 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: high school quarterback, running back, wide receiver, defensive end, punter 442 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,640 Speaker 1: to playing baseball and basketball. Uh you know, played defense. 443 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:08,120 Speaker 1: Take a break kid, converted defensive player. So, uh well, 444 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: I look at him and I knew he was gonna 445 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 1: be probably the discussion immediately look at the tight ends, 446 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: and what do we think three four tight ends gonaill 447 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,880 Speaker 1: this roster? So you figured, Delaney Walker, we haven't seen 448 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 1: John hu Smith out there, and closer we get to 449 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,239 Speaker 1: the start of the season anymore, you'll wonder if he's 450 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: gonna be available. But Michael Pruett as a player this 451 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:29,919 Speaker 1: coach coaching staff really likes. Ferkster has had his moments. 452 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 1: I think Wick, Hewitt and Hessi are probably battling for 453 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: another spot at the start. And you know we've seen Hugh. 454 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 1: I think Hewitt show up a little bit in the 455 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,439 Speaker 1: running game as a blocker. Wicks made some plays out there. Now, 456 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 1: Hessey scored a he caught a touchdown pass today, So 457 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 1: I think there potentially is a battle for a fourth 458 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: spot to sneak in. If we're gonna assume John hu 459 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: Smith's back, we know Delaney Walker's there. I'm with you 460 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: on Pruett. I think they they like where Prue it fits. 461 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,160 Speaker 1: So let's go to Ferkser for just a second. He's 462 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 1: one of the thirteen players that I have listed. Since 463 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: we're staying there, What does Ferkser have to do to 464 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: make sure that he's one of the four if they 465 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 1: do keep Ferser's here for one reason. He caught everything 466 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 1: they threw him last year except one that was a 467 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: hard get too. He can't drop him. He can't drop 468 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,120 Speaker 1: him like he did in the scrimmage. I mean, I'm 469 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: just being you know, I'm just being straight blunt. You know, 470 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 1: he can't drop him because he's here because he's he's 471 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: dependable to catch the football. That's that's his niche. And 472 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 1: so if he continues to catch it, he'll probably be 473 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 1: here because Arthur Smith developed him, they know it. But 474 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: if he starts to drop him, I mean I can 475 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 1: go find a lot of people to drop him. Well. 476 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: And you've got Colewick, who's big and pretty. He's six six, 477 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: two sixty's he's that really good looking te prototype. And 478 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: then you've got Hewitt who's played in the league and 479 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 1: has done good things in the league. And he also 480 00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 1: is a natural h that you're able to show if 481 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 1: a round in that way. So I mean Ferkser can't 482 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: get lost. You just gotta catch him, yeah, and just 483 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 1: catch it if he catches it, if he catches it 484 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 1: when they throw it to him, because he does a 485 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,120 Speaker 1: nice job of getting open him because he's hard to cover. 486 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 1: He's hard to cover. I mean, he's just he's he's 487 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: like that point guard that comes down there that I 488 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 1: mean sometimes he outslows you with his moves. I mean, 489 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 1: you know, and he I mean you just really, I mean, 490 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: he knows how to uncover himself. He really does. But 491 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 1: if some of the other guys in this tight end 492 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,880 Speaker 1: room right now are better blockers, and especially a guy 493 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: like Parker Hessey who might have more of that skill set, 494 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 1: Anthony Ferkser really can't afford to be dropping balls when 495 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 1: that's his skill set, that's his contribution. So I think, 496 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 1: if I'm John Robinson, you've got away some of the 497 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 1: skill sets of some of these different guys and what 498 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 1: they're contributing to the bigger picture of the offense. And 499 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: he has been pretty consistent in catching the ball. That's 500 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 1: why I've I've been mentioning him in all my practice 501 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,439 Speaker 1: reports and observations. Then he goes out there on Saturday night, 502 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 1: as coach Mick mentioned, and he dropped one end zone, 503 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 1: should have had another one went across the middle they dropped. 504 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 1: It was something we had not really not really seen 505 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 1: around here during the course of training camp. And he 506 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 1: was back catching the ball again today. He's had a 507 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 1: good camp, but he had a bad night on Saturday night. 508 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 1: And I'm sure he's one of these guys is looking 509 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,719 Speaker 1: to kind of get back onto the lights and make 510 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: some plays. I have a feeling he's going to be 511 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 1: one of the stars of the preseason. All right, we've 512 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,400 Speaker 1: got four more to cover, and this is the one 513 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 1: fifty six outside linebacker Sharif Finch. Did Coach Rabel get 514 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: on you for asking about Sharif? It was Kayla Anderson 515 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 1: from Okay Channel Channel two, because he's gotten to the 516 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: point where he's getting tired of being asked about him. 517 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: You know how Mike Vrabel doesn't like to single out players, 518 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 1: and I think early on he was asked about Sharif 519 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: Finch And excuse me, I can't wait for our Friday 520 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: meetings again. I mean, I just live for it. You're 521 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,159 Speaker 1: not supposed to tell those are supposed to be private. 522 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: But don't tell everybody. How he rips me when I 523 00:26:56,600 --> 00:27:00,119 Speaker 1: ask him questions. It's very entertaining. It's not entertaining. If 524 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: it's me, well, that might make it entertaining. But you 525 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 1: have to ask him questions in production beatings. He just 526 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 1: doesn't like it. I'm sorry. He just doesn't like to 527 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 1: talk about players. He doesn't And early on he was 528 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: willing to discuss Reefinch because he was asked about him 529 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: a lot during the early course of training camp. Because 530 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,640 Speaker 1: he's been getting a lot of work with the one 531 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 1: just looked good. He's gotten after quarterback. He had a 532 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: couple of plays on Saturday night where probably would have 533 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 1: been sacks because he was in the vicina of the quarterback. 534 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,439 Speaker 1: But after the practice on Saturday he was asked by 535 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,120 Speaker 1: about him and he just pretty much shut it down. 536 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: So he was tired of talk about it pretty much. Yes, So, 537 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 1: I mean the thing about Finch, I mean, not only 538 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 1: has he improved and gotten better during the course of 539 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 1: the offseason learning last season with Cameron Wake having his 540 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 1: reps limited, the guy who bumps up and gets to 541 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,640 Speaker 1: lie of that work in his place has been to Refinch. 542 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 1: I mean he's been working against h you know, the 543 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: top players, and when he's been running with the twos, 544 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: he's been working against the Taylor of one, which is 545 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: gonna make him better. So I mean, I think Harol 546 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 1: Lander is gonna make a big jump this year. I 547 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: expects your Refench to do the same. I rubber stamped 548 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 1: that he plays heavy. No, because he is heavy. O's thick. 549 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 1: He's got thickness to him and the thing that he's 550 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,400 Speaker 1: gotten better at and and that comes. I mean, guys 551 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 1: have to learn when they get into this league and 552 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: we'll move on. But how to how to use their 553 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 1: arms and how to use their hands and how to 554 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: because it's a hands game on defense. It's a hands 555 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 1: game on defense, and he's learned how to do that. 556 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: But he is he's got a good power base to him. 557 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 1: I like the player gosh one on one. He uses 558 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 1: his hands like he's gonna kill a man, and I 559 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: like it. He is tough and he's gonna be fired 560 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,239 Speaker 1: up on Thursday night because this is home for him. 561 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 1: Playing in Philadelphia, He's gonna have a ton of family. 562 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: There's one of twenty one kids. So if you if 563 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 1: the kids show up, he's got a big crowd. But 564 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: he's uh, he's gonna have a big section. He's already 565 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: been overwhelmed with ticket request. It's really nice kid too. 566 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 1: He's he's a good story, all right. Focal point guy 567 00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 1: going back to Philadelphia was traded to the items from Philadelphia. 568 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: Dennis Kelly playing left tackle. Everybody going to be watching 569 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: what goes on there, based on the fact that Taylor 570 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 1: Lawan has a four game suspension pending. Absolutely, and so 571 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 1: I think that everyone's watching to see I think the 572 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: assumption is that he's the natural fit for Taylor Lawan's 573 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: role for those first four games that he suspended. But 574 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 1: we've seen so many switcherous in practice, and we've seen 575 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: them tinkering with the offensive line so much. I think 576 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 1: it's going to be interesting to see how they end up, 577 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 1: what configuration we end up getting against Philadelphia and in 578 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: all of these different places. I'm excited to see that. 579 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: I'm excited to see him really play at left tackle 580 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: and get a lot of reps there. But then also 581 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 1: where they end up shifting some of this offensive line 582 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 1: as that game goes on, how much of it is 583 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 1: or how much is a help in this situation for 584 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: Dennis Kelly that he's going to go against Jim Schwartz defense, 585 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 1: knowing that while Schwartz won't show everything, he'll probably show 586 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: Dennis Kelly some things that are gonna make him work. 587 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: Here's here's what is so good. That's a great point, Mike, 588 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 1: But Schwartz, you know, I was with Schwartz for six 589 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 1: years here, now I know what his approach to a 590 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: preseason is as a coordinator. But Schwartz, you know that 591 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 1: they are as good, They are as good a four 592 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: man rush team as there is in this league right now, 593 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 1: and I'm too deep, talking too deep. They ran five 594 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: or more blitz blessing people less than anybody in the 595 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 1: league last year. So he's gonna get some one on 596 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: one work with people bringing it because Schwartz is gonna 597 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,719 Speaker 1: play coverage and he's gonna he's gonna fog it up 598 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 1: front with those four. So this is a great game, 599 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: to your point, for Kelly to get that, and he's 600 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: gonna get plenty of work one on one, and that's 601 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: what these coaches want to see. How much work do 602 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 1: you give him, knowing that he needs to work at 603 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:54,959 Speaker 1: left tackle, but that he's your most obvious left tackle 604 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 1: candidate and you don't need to get him hurt. Well, 605 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 1: you can't. You can't go into a game scared. That's 606 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 1: number one. You know. You never you never coach or 607 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 1: play scared you get You don't do that. You just 608 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 1: go in and I'm sure that Mike Vrabell, you know, 609 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: I haven't talked to him or know what they do, 610 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: but I'm sure they've got a set number of plays 611 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 1: that they want to do. And then you let him 612 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: go all right, end with two defensive linemen Matt Dickerson 613 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: who figures to start. I would think on Thursday night 614 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: he'll certainly be in there quite a bit with the 615 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: first end of the second unit. And then a rookie 616 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 1: out of Chattanooga by the name of Isaiah Mack who 617 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 1: wears seventy nine. Matt Dickerson is ninety two. Defensive line 618 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 1: figures to be down three because they have three guys 619 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 1: who have not been practicing, so only eight defensive linemen. 620 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 1: Do you think those guys are going to get a 621 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 1: ton of work. Let's start with Mac and Dickerson. Well, Dickerson, 622 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: I mean does a standout just because of what he 623 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 1: did this offseason and earning offseason Performer of the Year, 624 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 1: which is quite a compliment from those who kind of 625 00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: watched him work. I mean, he's gotten stronger, who's put 626 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 1: the time I'm in. I think the experience of last 627 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 1: season helped him. Being a practice, He's added some weight 628 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 1: and you know he's a strong player and nice it 629 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 1: to matter him going out and making some place. Dickerson 630 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 1: is the type of guy you need on a team 631 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 1: in the National Football League. Rotational interior people. I mean 632 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 1: this has become a rotational interior people league just because 633 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: of what you're what you're seeing. Offensively, You've got to 634 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 1: rotate those big dudes. I mean, you have to do it. 635 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 1: And what he did, he took a step up in 636 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 1: this offseason. This is a big year for him. I 637 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 1: like what I've seen of him in training camp. I mean, 638 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 1: this guy, this guy got ready to play professional football 639 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 1: in the off season. You can see it. Such a 640 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: good story. I'm such a sucker for a good story. 641 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: But the amount that he has worked in, the amount 642 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 1: that he has said that he's learned from the people 643 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 1: around him, and to see him have that success and 644 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 1: to catch some of the coach's attention is very exciting 645 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 1: for me. And then Isaiah Mack, You're trying to figure 646 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 1: out what you've got there. He keeps showing up and 647 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 1: you're like, well, what is he? Is he a nose tackle? 648 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 1: Is he? You know? Is he a guy who could 649 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 1: use a red shirt? Is? What? Is? What? Is Isaiah back? 650 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: And this type of defense? This guy though, I mean, 651 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 1: he's got a low center of gravity. He's a low 652 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 1: center of gravity. I mean he's one of those groundhog dudes. 653 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 1: You know, that's thick. I mean, and he can get 654 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 1: under you, he can go at you. And he also 655 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 1: can punch. That's one thing that he's got. He's got 656 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 1: a really good, short, six inch punch to him. And 657 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 1: so he might be a guy that that that that 658 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 1: would deserve a little more time. But the reason he 659 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 1: keeps showing up is because he plays. He really plays frantically. 660 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 1: I mean when he goes, he goes, you know. So 661 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 1: it's interesting, no problem with the motor. It's funny his 662 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 1: body type too. I don't know if we've talked about 663 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 1: this out there, but I've noticed several times just his 664 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 1: built he looks from behind like Darrell Casey. He just 665 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 1: kind of thick in the middle, kind of smaller legs 666 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, just the way his body type is. 667 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 1: And Darrell six one three h five he's listed, Michael 668 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 1: listed at six one two ninety nine. So but he 669 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: needs to step up and make some plays. I mean, 670 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 1: I think there's a potentially a spot to be had 671 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 1: for somebody to come out of the group. So I 672 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 1: want to ask you this, coach Mac as we wind up, 673 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 1: you think about Isaiah Mack doesn't have the quote unquote 674 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 1: measurables Parker Hess, he doesn't have the quote unquote measurables 675 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 1: Kareem or I mean it's it's sort of the same 676 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 1: thing when you're when you're doing an evaluation, when you 677 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:38,839 Speaker 1: sit in the room and you make these decisions, how 678 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 1: hard is it to ignore a guy who just keeps 679 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 1: making tackles or making catchers or bad You're sitting here going, 680 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:50,360 Speaker 1: this shouldn't be happening according to the stop watching everything 681 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,840 Speaker 1: that goes with it. But this dude can just play. 682 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:59,319 Speaker 1: Where does having a guy who can just play rank 683 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 1: on the list? And you have to take all that 684 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 1: into account. Well, I can answer that real easy. Okay, 685 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 1: If you're sitting in the room and you ignore people 686 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 1: that make plays on the football field, pretty soon you'll 687 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 1: be trying to find another room to sit in because 688 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,240 Speaker 1: you'll be out of a job. You we're playing football, 689 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,760 Speaker 1: and once you geta ball players come in all shape 690 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 1: sizes from everywhere, all different kind of backgrounds, all different 691 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 1: kinds of temperaments. We've seen them all. You judge people 692 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:29,240 Speaker 1: on the production they do consistently on the football field, 693 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,840 Speaker 1: in practice, in the in the rooms. What you do, 694 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 1: you don't ignore anything. The rest of that stuff. You 695 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 1: turn a blind eye too, because I mean, I know 696 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 1: everybody likes to have the real good coming off the 697 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 1: bus team how they look. I would rather have the 698 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,840 Speaker 1: team that gets on the bus after the game with wins. 699 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:49,399 Speaker 1: I don't care what they look like. But they can't 700 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 1: all be like that? Can They know when they're not 701 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,360 Speaker 1: going to be okay? But you don't ignore it. You 702 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 1: don't ignore it. You look for production. Production is you know? 703 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,400 Speaker 1: I mean, you're a University of Tennessee guy. I was 704 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 1: talking with Doug Matthews the other day and then we'll quit, 705 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,919 Speaker 1: uh quit. Here's here's here's a guy that you would 706 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 1: never look at and think this guy can't play ball. 707 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,920 Speaker 1: He's too j J. McCleskey, you remember that name. We 708 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 1: were in school together, j J mcs JJ McCleskey could 709 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,320 Speaker 1: walk under this table, you know, And he played. He 710 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 1: played nickel back for me and won a playoff game 711 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,320 Speaker 1: against the Dallas Cowboys because nobody could block him. So 712 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,800 Speaker 1: he's a walk on at Tennessee. From Carnes, it doesn't 713 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 1: matter if they play ball. They play ball, because that's 714 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,360 Speaker 1: what we're doing for a living, is playing ball. So 715 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 1: I would hate to be in that room. Would I 716 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 1: might absolutely hate to having to make these kinds of decisions. 717 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,719 Speaker 1: That we're talking about. I couldn't do it. I would 718 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,360 Speaker 1: just get the shake so bad. I want to be 719 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,360 Speaker 1: in that room so bad, I can't stand it. I 720 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 1: mean that I would you know it, and I love 721 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 1: and you know how to do it, and I mean 722 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 1: I think you would love it. Let me just let 723 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,320 Speaker 1: me just correct you. You would love it. I promise you. 724 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:59,439 Speaker 1: You have to be so pragmatic and so unemotional. Though, 725 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 1: Oh there's a lot of emotion in there. You think 726 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,360 Speaker 1: Jim Washburn was on emotional Well, that's a different story. 727 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 1: But he was emotional about He was emotional about what 728 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,840 Speaker 1: he saw in football players, and he had such a 729 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,319 Speaker 1: belief in it. I don't know, but he's also one 730 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,720 Speaker 1: of the best position coaches in the in the NFL 731 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 1: in recent years. I just don't know that I could 732 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 1: have that kind of belief about I mean, how do 733 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 1: you know that this player is necessarily that much better 734 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,880 Speaker 1: or the second guy? The guy the second guy has upside? 735 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 1: How do you look beyond that? I loved it. And 736 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:37,759 Speaker 1: let me tell you something. This this coaching staff and 737 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,239 Speaker 1: this personnel staff, they got a lot of guys that 738 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,719 Speaker 1: know what they're doing. Because I promise you they that 739 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,440 Speaker 1: just I love watching their draft. I love watching them out. 740 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,919 Speaker 1: These guys know what they're doing. I would I would 741 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 1: love to be in that room again. It's fun. The 742 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,359 Speaker 1: big thing about John Robinson is he ain't sentimental when 743 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 1: it comes to this. He might be about his family 744 00:37:56,320 --> 00:38:00,400 Speaker 1: or his dog, but he's not about this. You're right, 745 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,000 Speaker 1: I mean you're glad. I think you're glad to have 746 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:05,799 Speaker 1: a gem like that, right, no question, You're thrilled, no question. Yeah. 747 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,200 Speaker 1: I mean it's a production business. I mean you've got 748 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,080 Speaker 1: to produce, and uh, you've got to You've got to 749 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,719 Speaker 1: be right too. I mean, that's that's that's the main thing. 750 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:15,440 Speaker 1: That's why you got to take the motion out of it, 751 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 1: because your job's at stake in the future of the 752 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 1: franchise at stake. Well, not only your job, everybody else's. Yeah, 753 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:22,839 Speaker 1: the head coaches like that too. This is a great 754 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:24,680 Speaker 1: group here. I'd love to be in the room with 755 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:28,080 Speaker 1: this group. Well, they know it, especially because they i mean, 756 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,920 Speaker 1: they have a philosophy and they stick with it no 757 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:35,839 Speaker 1: matter what. They're sticking with their philosophy, which I think 758 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 1: allows them to be right a lot more than they're wrong. Absolutely. 759 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,799 Speaker 1: I think it's very black and white, and there are 760 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:46,800 Speaker 1: very clear standards of what a Tennessee Titans football player 761 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,799 Speaker 1: looks like. And if someone checks the boxes, they move 762 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,280 Speaker 1: on to the next round. If they don't check the boxes, 763 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 1: they're done. It doesn't matter how lovely their story is, 764 00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 1: how like nice they are as a human being. If 765 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 1: you don't eat the criteria, you're not gonna make it. 766 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 1: Being that cut and dry, I think is really helped. 767 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 1: One more thing about this. We've already seen the general manager. 768 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,719 Speaker 1: He's willing to admit if he was wrong. Yeah, I'll 769 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,279 Speaker 1: admit it and move past it. That's a huge part too. Well, 770 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,440 Speaker 1: that's and that's BILLICHICKI in. Well, that's the way you 771 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,799 Speaker 1: do it. That's why you start stacking trophies, right, yeah, 772 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:26,440 Speaker 1: all right. Jim Whitt Titans Online dot Com. Thank you're 773 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 1: looking forward to seeing some uh some preseason games, Chief Steak. 774 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 1: I think I will get a Chief Steak out here 775 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:39,080 Speaker 1: the place to go, as Jims so aybe wells. You've 776 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,880 Speaker 1: got a big special coming up that you worked very 777 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,120 Speaker 1: hard on with Marcus Mariot. To tell everybody about it. 778 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,399 Speaker 1: In thirty seconds or less, we do. We go back 779 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,800 Speaker 1: to the homeland. We head to Hawaii and kind of 780 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:55,320 Speaker 1: get a look into the place that made Marcus Mariota 781 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,320 Speaker 1: what he is and kind of go through all of 782 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:02,040 Speaker 1: his success and take a little journey with him. It's, uh, 783 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,480 Speaker 1: it wasn't bad going to Hawaii, but I'm really excited 784 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 1: that everyone gets to see why we were there instead 785 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,359 Speaker 1: of just blindly believing that we were on a quote 786 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 1: unquote work trip. Um It's it looks beautiful, It's I'm 787 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 1: really excited for everyone to be able to see what 788 00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,000 Speaker 1: where will they be able to see it? It's going 789 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 1: to be oh gosh, it'll be everywhere. It airs originally 790 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:27,600 Speaker 1: on the Titans Facebook page, So Facebook dot com slash Titans. 791 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,640 Speaker 1: At seven o'clock PM on Wednesday night, we're dropping all 792 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,720 Speaker 1: three episodes, so you can just binge your Marcus Mariota. 793 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,439 Speaker 1: But it'll also be on Titans online and you won't 794 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:38,759 Speaker 1: be able to get away from it. You will be 795 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,080 Speaker 1: able to find it, but definitely go check it out 796 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:45,960 Speaker 1: because it's a lot of Marcus Mariota. Next year we're 797 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,839 Speaker 1: going to Hawaii. Coach Well, we can go whenever we want. 798 00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,840 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm I'm just glad. I'm just glad. Amy 799 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,400 Speaker 1: got to go down another award, a winning Mac and 800 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:58,160 Speaker 1: three tremendous tremendous for Dave McGinnis, A B. Wells in 801 00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,600 Speaker 1: the Great Jim White. Mike Key says they were joining 802 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 1: us for the O. T.