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Get started now sign up. 10 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: Please use the promo code Colin so they know we 11 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: sent you. Please use the promo code Colins c O 12 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: l I N FanDuel Sports Book App sign up. This 13 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: is Prime Cuts. The best of the Colin Coward Podcast. 14 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: Marcus Thompson shared his amazing insight and how much blamed 15 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 1: Steve Nash deserved for the next Game one loss and 16 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 1: the difficulty of the Warriors. Moving on from Clay Thompson 17 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 1: to Jordan Pool. Former NBA forward Chandler Parsons was great 18 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: reacting to Kyrie flipping off Boston fans and discuss what 19 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: separates KD from the rest of the NBA elite and 20 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: Michigan State head coach Mel Tucker smart transfer portal nil. 21 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: How do you balance college football? In twenty twenty two, 22 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: the ratings for the first round were an eleven year 23 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: ratings high. Oh my, oh my, arch conservatives, All right, conservatives, 24 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: what are they to do? The narrative has been punctured. 25 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: I would argue the NBA actually succeeds sometimes despite itself. 26 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: I want to give an example. In hockey, you get 27 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: a lot of upsets for the playoffs because eight seeds 28 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: can beat a one seed, right, because it's all about 29 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: the hot goalie. In college basketball, the number one seeds 30 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: only win sixty three percent of the time. Did you 31 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: know that since they expanded to sixty eight teams In 32 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: the NFL, number one Tennessee Titans, Number one Packers couldn't 33 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: win a single game this year. But in the NBA, 34 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: in league history, the top four seeds, the one and 35 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 1: the two in the East and the West, win eighty 36 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 1: nine percent of the time, and yet ratings continue to 37 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: be strong. There's no upsets. There's virtually no upsets, the 38 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: opposite of every other sport. Think about that. College football's 39 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: ratings have been down in recent years. Because it's two 40 00:02:55,320 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: dominated by the SEC. NBA's ratings up eleven percent, we 41 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: know Milwaukee and Phoenix probably get there. In fact, the 42 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 1: lowest seeded NBA team to ever win the finals, this 43 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: is kind of funny, was the ninety four ninety five 44 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: Houston Rockets. They were a sixth seed. They had Drexler 45 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 1: and Alajuan, not exactly a Cinderella story, and there were 46 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: champs the year before. So despite the fact the NBA 47 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: and I've been banging on this for years, they need 48 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: to make first round series three games at most five, 49 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: their ratings are up incredibly dynamic, and unlike every other 50 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: professional and college league in America, there are no upsets. 51 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: The favorites overwhelmingly dominate eighty nine percent of the time 52 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: number one and two seeds win. That tells me the 53 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: NBA would be even more successful with just a couple 54 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: of playoff tweaks. Tweaks, not massive changes. I want to 55 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: talk about a team that didn't make the playoffs that 56 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: I had high hopes for. So when Steve Ballmer bought 57 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: the LA Clippers, he's a basketball addict, the Seattle guy 58 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: that was kind of legendary around the Pacific Northwest, for 59 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: just dropping in when he was one of the three 60 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 1: richest people in the world, just dropping in on high 61 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: school basketball tournaments for the weekend. So he buys the Clippers, 62 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: and you know they're they're the number two. They're the 63 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: Mets to the Yankees, a disproportionate second to the number 64 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 1: one brand. So he buys it, and he gets a break. 65 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: The Lakers are sort of a mess, and so here's 66 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 1: this golden opportunity for him to take over the city 67 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: of La Kawhi. Leonard can't stay healthy and has no 68 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: leadership ability. He's nonverbal. Paul George can't stay healthy. Paul 69 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 1: George in the second place, games not available. He got COVID, 70 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: not timeout. Paul George, what are you doing? How do 71 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 1: you get COVID. I'm not a believer that it can 72 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: happen to anybody. I do believe if you're smart, if 73 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: you are a mask, especially for a pro athlete, you 74 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 1: could have food delivered. You don't have to go out. 75 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 1: I gotta believe Steve Ballmer is absolutely beside himself. He's 76 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 1: got the right coach, he's got a really nice roster. 77 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 1: But I wonder if he regrets Paul George and Kawhi Leonard. 78 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: Now he's going to have to probably run it back, 79 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:38,479 Speaker 1: you know what's out there on the market. But I 80 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: mean between Kawai's inability to stay healthy and his nonverbal 81 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 1: personality and Paul George, I mean, if you're Paul George, 82 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 1: you've been hurt all year, you come back, You've been 83 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: erratic historically in the playoffs, I would lock myself in 84 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: a room for a month to ensure I was there 85 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: for my team. Just really truly irresponsible. Don't tell me 86 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: it's just random. No, it's not. It's not. Now. Some 87 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: people have jobs, you know, they work in hospitals. Some 88 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:16,359 Speaker 1: people have jobs there, they put themselves at risk of 89 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: attaining it. Paul George is got one hundred million dollars 90 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 1: in the bank. He can have everything delivered. He doesn't 91 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: have to go out in public. Highly discouraging. Marcus Thompson, 92 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 1: Bay Area columnist for The Athletic, author of three great books, 93 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 1: one called k D and then there's Golden about Steph 94 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: curry recent book Dynasty, The Ten Goat Teams that Change 95 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: the NBA Forever. Always a great listen and a great column. 96 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: So I want to start with Brooklyn Boston, God there 97 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: was a Kyrie possession at the end of that game 98 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: that was atrocious. There was a kd possession at the 99 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: end game that was atrocious. So when you go around 100 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 1: the league, when you go around the league, is what's 101 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:04,359 Speaker 1: the what's the book on Steve Nash? Because it looked 102 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: like it was just guys. There was just no design 103 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: to either play. What's the book on Nash? The book 104 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: called Nashes He has two of the greatest offensive weapons 105 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: of all time. And it's like, YEO, clear out. It 106 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: was it was kind of obvious there is there is 107 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: a much of a book though, right, Like that was 108 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: I mean, it's not a bad book. Right, if you 109 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: got Kadie and Kyrie, right, I'd probably do the same thing. 110 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: But I'm not the head coach of the Nets, right, 111 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: so I do think the way, especially on that last 112 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: possession right where they were playing Kyrie so soft and 113 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: then on a last possession, you know, Marcus smartest in 114 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: them and then Hoford comes to help and they kick 115 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: it to Kadi and everybody's up in you. Like that 116 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: was kind of a sign where it's like, yo, you 117 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: probably should run something. Maybe you should have a set 118 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: or two or or or an offensive philosophy, you could 119 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: tell you don't have that, So I would say the 120 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: book is there isn't much of a book yet, and 121 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: that's kind of been covered up by the fact that 122 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: you have Kdkadi makes you not need books as much 123 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: as those most coaches, right, you don't need that much 124 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: of a book, but to win a championship you probably 125 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: need a book. Holla. Well, it's interesting, and we'll pivot 126 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: to this The Warriors in a second, because Jordan Poole, 127 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: we've talked about it on this podcast. A bunch creates 128 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: an interesting, like a really good dilemma. I'll get that 129 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: out in a second. But when Kad left the Warriors, 130 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:33,319 Speaker 1: did Ker implement more structure To your point that k 131 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 1: D sort of let you free free will it on 132 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: offense more, I think the problem was there was so 133 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 1: much structure on the Warriors. I don't think Kadi liked 134 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:46,959 Speaker 1: that very much. Like Katie's mindset, which makes a lot 135 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: of sense of few as great as him is, well, 136 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: why don't I need fifteen passes to get me to 137 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: a spot to take a shot where I could just 138 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: take that shot, like, just let me do me? But 139 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:59,839 Speaker 1: you know, Ker implements a philosophy like everybody needs to 140 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: be moving and pass it because over time that just 141 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: wears the undefense. So I think the structure has always 142 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 1: been the same it even it even caused a little 143 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: bit of issue right us and Katie wasn't shoy about it. 144 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, why aren't we doing all this? What's 145 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: all that's moving for? Right? Even now, you get to 146 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,559 Speaker 1: a point where teams know the Warriors are going to 147 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 1: do a lot of passing, a lot of moving, so 148 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: they kind of prepare for that. And the Warrior's bed 149 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: is always just give it to time. It's like novocaine. 150 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 1: It works every time. But there is some kind of 151 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: conflict with that where it's like yo, just isolated guy, like, well, 152 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: I make it harder than what it has to be. 153 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: But that's the Word's book, that's his philosophy, right. He 154 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: lives it dies with it, and you get it. Even 155 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: when you don't like it, you still get it. It 156 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: makes sense even when it's like, Okay, this is too much. 157 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 1: Stop passing so much. I thought the Warriors were the 158 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: most imp oppressive team over the weekend, And there's there's 159 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:56,199 Speaker 1: a little bit of a dilemma. Although it's not a 160 00:09:56,200 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 1: crisis now is that Jordan Pool is emerging as an 161 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: all star level player. And we've talked about this. When 162 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: they brought in Andrew Wiggins, he was seen as a 163 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: trade piece, but the culture so strong he's now a 164 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: valuable player. And Jordan Pool has developed into an eighteen 165 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: point a game next year it could be twenty twenty one. 166 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 1: Clay Thompson's not quite there. He's very expensive, and they've 167 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 1: always been a team that plays small ball for a 168 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: big chunk. Wiseman's not really working. Cavon Looney, you know 169 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: they're going to be times facing eighton could be be honest, 170 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 1: it could be embiid that they need some size the 171 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 1: whole Jordan Pool Clay Thompson dynamic where Pools often better 172 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: when he doesn't have to share shots with Clay. How 173 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: does that when you you watch every practice, every game, 174 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: How does it feel there? It's definitely something that's coming 175 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: to a head, right because, and like you said, it 176 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 1: is a great problem. George Pool is forcing hands here right. 177 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 1: There's no there's no question like take out history, take 178 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:05,319 Speaker 1: out all the history, take out what you know about 179 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:08,839 Speaker 1: what players can do, and just analyze in two Thousan 180 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: twenty two says January. First, you could make a strong 181 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: case that George who's their best player, and that's tough 182 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: to do to know that and then be like, yeah, 183 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: you're coming off the bitch right, like that's that's a 184 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: tough one. And he won't he won't like stop playing 185 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: well like, he won't not he won't give him a 186 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:32,319 Speaker 1: reason to not do it. So it's coming to a head. 187 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:34,679 Speaker 1: And I do think Wiggins will end up being well, 188 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:36,719 Speaker 1: obviously kamal lud He's gonna be the odd man out. 189 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 1: They'll play Steph Clay, Draymond, you know, and George Pool 190 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: and they'll go Wiggins. The problem with that is is 191 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: yr Kich. So now you're saying, yo, Draymond, that's that's 192 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: forty minutes or thirty five minutes against your kis. So 193 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: at some point you do have to get like an 194 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 1: actual big man in there. You gotta you gotta get 195 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: up minutes either, like like in baseball you need the 196 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: innings eater, they need a minute. It's eater. That's why 197 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: he starts loony Marcus. I said this the other week. 198 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 1: I said Wiseman's a weird fit, can't stay healthy, and 199 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: they feel because of Draymond and Steph's age, they're in 200 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: a championship window here for the next two to three years. 201 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:18,959 Speaker 1: And I said, is it crazy if you called the 202 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:21,719 Speaker 1: Lakers and said, we'll take Anthony Davis, We'll give you 203 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: Wiseman a pick and Clay Thompson. Now the pushback is 204 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 1: Steph would never allow it. But if you went to 205 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: Steph and said, Steph, we got to have a big here. 206 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: Wiseman's not ready to finish this product. He's not. The Lakers. Meanwhile, 207 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: they need shooters big time, so they'll take a Clay, 208 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: they'll go draft one, they'll take Wiseman as a project. 209 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: I just threw it out there and people said that's crazy, 210 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 1: and I'm like it would Steph go to management and 211 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:54,199 Speaker 1: say you can't trade Clay. I mean, you're asking Steph 212 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: to like cut off his dart because he needs a 213 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 1: new pair of shoes, like that's part of who he is. 214 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 1: I don't think they would do it because you literally 215 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: lose a huge shooting dynamic right in order to get 216 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 1: some size and their bank They think the entire time 217 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: was like, man, you could make do with somebody who's big, Like, 218 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 1: let's go get somebody who's big. If you got name 219 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: a guy Robin Lopez on this roster, right, you got something, right, 220 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 1: you got a big and you have what nobody else 221 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: has you had Stepha Clay. I don't know that they 222 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: would give that up to get a little bit more size, 223 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: like and also, you know what the tough sale is 224 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: gonna be. How do you go, how do you go 225 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: get rid of Wiseman because he can't stay healthy and 226 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,959 Speaker 1: get another big man who can't say healthy? Right? Like, No, 227 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know if you win that. Now, 228 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: if you were to say Lebron, you guys had you 229 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: got Wiseman with a number two pick, right, yep? Number 230 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: was number one, am Anthony yep. And then so I 231 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: mean you weren't gonna draft Yeah no, that was a 232 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,559 Speaker 1: kind of a three or four player draft. Why not? 233 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: I mean if you look at what George Pool has done, 234 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 1: and he's obviously not the passer LaMelo is. But it's 235 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: the same concept of well, you don't want to draft 236 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 1: LaMelo because you've got a third guard. Well, now you 237 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: got a third guard, right, and now he has to 238 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: be on the court, and you're not taking Stephan playoff 239 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 1: so it's kind of the same scenario, except Jorge Pool 240 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 1: is a lot cheaper than LaMelo right now, right, and 241 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: that's a whole different story. Who can, like Willie accept 242 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: the row. But in hindsight, LaMelo makes sense because you 243 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: got three guards now anyway, No, the issue with I 244 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: think to your point, they're gonna move Wiggins and get 245 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: some size. You can't give up Jordan Poole. And then 246 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: there's Jonathan kuminga six seven. You know it could be 247 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: a really plus defender. You like, Well, I just think 248 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: he's so twitchy. I think he just I just don't 249 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 1: know if I trust him in these big spots. You 250 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: tell me if you Yokis look gassed, I find Yoki's fascinating. 251 00:14:56,840 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: So he just looked gassed. Denver's a team that, again, 252 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: like the Clippers, they just can't stay healthy. It feels 253 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: like the last two years they're constantly beat up. Do 254 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: you think they're a threat at all to the Warriors? No? 255 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, who are you banking on? Who's 256 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: number two? Like, what's their counter? I don't know what 257 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: they're counting. You got you want to beat the Warrior? 258 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: The Warriors have a counter. They have answers. Right, it's 259 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: what are the reasons they start convoluti Because if things 260 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: don't go well, you can come with a better alignment. Right, 261 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: you have that ace of the whole. That's why they 262 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: were fine bringing stuff off the bitch. It's like, you 263 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 1: know what, if you can't beat us with step off 264 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: the court, you're done. But if you do beat this, 265 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: we can bring it step. They like this stuff. They 266 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: like hold the last line up to the end, so 267 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: you know they have the counters. And that's a byproduct 268 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: of when you win three championships to go to five 269 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: straight finals, like you kind of understand that you got 270 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: to be able to answer some pauls, right, And I don't. 271 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: I just don't think Denver doesn't have an answer. I 272 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: just don't know what else they do? What else do 273 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: you do? Yogas is gonna be tired that what is 274 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: he gonna get shaped by game three? Like not like 275 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: he lives shape. I don't know what. I don't know 276 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: how fast that diet I have to work. The Warriors, 277 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: behind their raucous home crowd, took a two oh series 278 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: lead over the Nuggets. No team feeds off their fans 279 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: like Golden State. Why The Warriors have a younger, energetic 280 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: fan base sitting courtside, fueled by that big tech money. 281 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 1: Most organizations, those front row seats are fifty year old, 282 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: but in San Francisco they're loud, young, passionate and love 283 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: their squad. Denver might have the MVP, but the Warriors 284 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: have the star power and the loudest support group pushing 285 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: them in the league over the top. The uncertainty in 286 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: the world is leading to market volatility. 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He was great, and so he said, 296 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 1: you know, let's go, let's go to the podcast space 297 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,120 Speaker 1: because then you can just swear and stuff and it's 298 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: way way better. You can be really authentic. So, by 299 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: the way, you're retired. Don't you live in Malibu? You 300 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:40,880 Speaker 1: told me I do. Yeah, I'm out here full time 301 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 1: pretty much. So what did you do today? Your life today? 302 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 1: I played a quick eighteen at eight am this morning 303 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 1: and at Sherwood, which is a club that I yeah, 304 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: came back, came back to the house, took took a 305 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: little walk on the beach with the dogs, and uh, 306 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 1: you know what, the big the big man, Actually, Dirk 307 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: is coming over tomorrow night. So I got a I 308 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 1: got a whole little pickleball, a little chef night tomorrow 309 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 1: night with Dirk and his wife coming over. Okay, so 310 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 1: you have to give me insight. I'm not bothered that 311 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 1: Kyrie fliped fans off. I mean, I wouldn't do it. 312 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 1: I wouldn't give I get people to give me some crap, 313 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:19,439 Speaker 1: but he just I don't give them fuel. I smile. 314 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: Is and there is racist stuff. I've heard bad stuff 315 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: about Utah Boston where it's really crosses the line. But 316 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: in your years of getting it, was there ever a 317 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 1: moment Chandler where it's just like, oh, I'm just not 318 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: in the mood. I am having an off night. I 319 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:38,120 Speaker 1: mean yeah, and it is. It's funny you say, Utah 320 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 1: and Boston, those are two like the legendary shit talking 321 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: inappropriate fans where they just they take it a little 322 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: bit too far. The Portland's Oklahoma City the same way, 323 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 1: like those guys. But you know what, I love it. 324 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: I think the banter between the fans and the players 325 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:55,159 Speaker 1: is really fun. Obviously every player has the line. And 326 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 1: then if you're struggling in this situation, Kyrie obviously played there. 327 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:02,120 Speaker 1: It didn't work out. But and that, you know, it's 328 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: I understand where he's coming from, Like what would that 329 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 1: that stuff is for social media almost to talk like that, 330 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,120 Speaker 1: like you would never talk to you would never tell 331 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 1: Marcus Marty sucks like at a bar, right because he'll 332 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 1: beat you up. He'll beat you up. So it's it's 333 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: the fact that they think they can buy a ticket 334 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: and they just have a free for all to say 335 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 1: whatever they want to players. Isn't exactly fair. But at 336 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 1: the same time, you know, Kyrie, you gotta rise up, 337 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta not react to that because big picture, 338 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 1: there was no solution. You lost fifty grand and it's 339 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 1: only going to get worse next game. Yeah, I think 340 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: he's the best finisher under sixth four I've ever seen 341 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 1: in my life, and I've been watching the NBA since 342 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: seventy two. I remember watching sadly Jerry West, Gale Goodrich 343 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 1: and an old Wilt Chamberlain. That was my first game, 344 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 1: and Wilt had the headband. He wasn't very fast, he 345 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: didn't jump as much in all my in The first 346 00:19:56,320 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: great point guard I saw was Tiny Archibald. I won't 347 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: remember him, but he played for the Celtics. I think 348 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:05,360 Speaker 1: he was number seven. Calvin Murphy wasn't long after that. 349 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 1: I've never seen a player like Kyrie like. I don't 350 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 1: know if it's quickness. I mean he's obviously got a 351 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: really pure shot. If I'd never seen Kyrie play, you're 352 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: a scout. I'm the GM describe him to me. I mean, 353 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 1: the guy is just he's poetry emotion. The guy can shoot, 354 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 1: he's slippery, he's smooth with the ball. What makes him 355 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: his layup package, like you said, it's it's unbelievable. He 356 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 1: can go right, he can go left, he can reverse, 357 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: he has the spin off the glass. He's got a 358 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 1: float game to him. He's got a step back. He'll 359 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: post you up. There's nothing really he can't do with 360 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 1: the ball. I think he's you know, I think he's 361 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: an unbelievable player and finisher, an ISO player. And that 362 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: series also, everyone's really talking about Minnesota Memphis. I think 363 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: that series is the series to watch, and that feels 364 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: like that feels like it should be like the Finals. 365 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: Like it is. It's physical, they're getting chippy with the 366 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:02,640 Speaker 1: whole ship with Kyrie and the fans, and it's destined 367 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: for a seven game series. And that's the series that 368 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: I think is the one that you know it's going 369 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 1: to be awesome. Mark Mark Few at Gonzaga was on 370 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,640 Speaker 1: that USA Basketball team and he I asked him once 371 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 1: about Kevin Durant and he said, Okay, he goes. Just 372 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 1: think of how great the talent is on USA Basketball, 373 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:29,439 Speaker 1: and then offensively Durant is significantly better than every other player. Offensively, 374 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 1: he's the guy on the team with all the guys. Yeah. Yeah, 375 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 1: it's nuts. It's pretty crazy. Yeah, Mark said, he said, 376 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 1: you really couldn't defend him. Is that if he wanted 377 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 1: a shot? You know, I always channel I always said 378 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 1: that in the NBA, we all think everybody can get 379 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 1: their shot, but there's probably twenty guys in the league 380 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: that can really truly get their shot. It's not as 381 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:58,640 Speaker 1: many as you think. Oh no, there's I mean, there's 382 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 1: the elite shot creator. But it's funny because like my 383 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 1: boys back home, they'll they'll make fun of a player, 384 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:08,719 Speaker 1: right They'll be like, oh, Brian Scalabrini, he's trash, or like, 385 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: oh I would have been I'm like, do you know 386 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 1: what this man would do to you if you try 387 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,679 Speaker 1: to guard him? Like you know how bad? You know 388 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:16,400 Speaker 1: how good you have to be to be the worst 389 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: player on an NBA team. So it's funny like when 390 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: like my normal friends, like they'll they'll swatch an NBA 391 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 1: game and it looks like they're horrible because guys like 392 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: Cephalosh or Tony Allen or Patrick Beverley are guarding you, 393 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,439 Speaker 1: but like they think they'd like to compare it to 394 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 1: their LA Fitness Rec League game. A couple of years ago, 395 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 1: I was watching Colorado football. They had made a change 396 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: at head coach, and I didn't know who mel Tucker was, 397 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: but I was sitting watching them with a buddy on 398 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,439 Speaker 1: a Saturday night, knocking down a beer or two, and 399 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: I said, man, that dude's got a presence, like, look 400 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 1: at that guy. That guys play well. He did play 401 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: at Wisconsin, but I started noticing Colorado football that they 402 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: were getting much more fical and that's not really Colorado 403 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: Football's brand pre Mail Tucker. So when he after multiple 404 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 1: pursuits by multiple schools, Michigan State was able to pull 405 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 1: him away. And I said on the air at the time, 406 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: I said, oh yeah, this is gonna work fast, This 407 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: isn't gonna take a long time. And then COVID hit 408 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 1: So Mail Tucker did what's virtually impossible. Two and five 409 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: first year, eleven and two last year, really still dealing 410 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:34,679 Speaker 1: with a pandemic. So you coached under Saban in twenty fifteen, 411 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: and there's so many parts of being a coach. There 412 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: is the development, the recruiting, the administrative, the operational, the 413 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 1: practice coach, the in game strategy. If I said to 414 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 1: you take something you took from Saban that you you 415 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: literally believe he is the gold standard of blank what 416 00:23:56,040 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 1: would it be he is a goals standard for That's 417 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 1: a tough question, because he's excellent across the board. That's 418 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:07,640 Speaker 1: the one thing that one of the things I love 419 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 1: so much about him is that he's Uh, he's a 420 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:20,120 Speaker 1: to z. But his his attention to detail is extraordinary. 421 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's uh, it's extremely important because you know, 422 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: there's a saying how you do some things, that's how 423 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 1: you do everything. Everything that he does is detailed into 424 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 1: the letter. He's crossing every team, he's diting every eye 425 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:45,719 Speaker 1: m and that's his personal standard and that's also the 426 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: standard of his entire organization and everyone in it. It's 427 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: very It would be very easy in the SEC to 428 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 1: have a random rogue booster pay a player at yet 429 00:24:56,200 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 1: at Alabama, they beyond reproach. We don't hear about that. 430 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: And that's a rabid part of the country. You've been 431 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: there where you know a car dealer, he just he 432 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: just wants to be part of the whole operation. And 433 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:10,919 Speaker 1: you know, it just takes one hundred dollar bill in 434 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 1: a hand. Now these days you won't get in trouble 435 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 1: for it currently. But what did he tell kids to 436 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: listen to these kids, it's not like they have Sometimes 437 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 1: it's a Friday night and they want a piece of pizza. 438 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 1: They got a girlfriend, they don't have the money. How 439 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: did he preach to kids about don't ruin this puppy 440 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:32,120 Speaker 1: don't bring the program down because I know in college 441 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: I could have used a Hundy so many times. Yeah. Well, 442 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: I mean he preaches you know, being responsible for your 443 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,880 Speaker 1: own self determination, um, you know, and and doing things 444 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 1: the right way, um, and you know, controlling what you 445 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 1: can control and making and making good decisions you know. 446 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,679 Speaker 1: And so it's all about the choices and decisions that 447 00:25:55,720 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: you make. Um. They create the outcomes and ultimately, um, 448 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 1: you know, that's that determines whether you're going to be 449 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 1: successful or not just not only on the field, but 450 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 1: off the field, and not just here while you're in 451 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 1: while you're in school, but you know, beyond, beyond school 452 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: and while in the real world. And so you know, 453 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: there's no shortcuts to success and no magic pill. And 454 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: you know. The good thing now, and it's been it's 455 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 1: been like this for a number of years, is that 456 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: as you know, when we're at school, we didn't we 457 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 1: didn't you know, if you don't fall a while, you 458 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 1: didn't have it, you didn't have money, you didn't have 459 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 1: pizza money. You there. There there's costs of attendance now 460 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 1: and you know the Austin uh uh deal is is 461 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 1: fifteen nine eighty or whatever that's you know, that's that's 462 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: here or on the horizon, there's some schools um the 463 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: very near future future and so um, you know there's 464 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 1: a you know room board to wish your feesbook costs, attendants. 465 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: You know. UM sometimes you know maybe elible for pel 466 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: granted is like that and then go ast of money 467 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 1: in the now with the name, name, image and likeness 468 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: and things like that. UM, you know, uh, you know, 469 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,880 Speaker 1: kids do you know, do have the opportunity to have 470 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 1: some some some money in their pocket? Um, which I think, um, 471 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: you know, ultimately and in theory should um you know, 472 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: really um take the focus away somewhat from from that 473 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 1: part of it and where they can just keep the 474 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 1: ninth thing the ninth thing. It's focused on school and 475 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: getting and being a basketball player you can be. Do 476 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,880 Speaker 1: you worry email because of the transfer portal, you got 477 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 1: to rerecruit some of your own kids. UM. I've heard 478 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 1: this from a couple of college basketball coaches that they 479 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: just they don't want to be salesman twenty four to seven. 480 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 1: They like coaching, They like developing. Are you worried with 481 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 1: all these current changes that you'll literally just be recruiting 482 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: eighty percent of your life. Now you know it's part 483 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 1: of it, But are you worried about the balance between 484 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 1: Hey man, I got into this thing to coache, not 485 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 1: to sell all day. Well, coaching is a lifestyle, there's 486 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,640 Speaker 1: no doubt about. It's not a it's not a job. 487 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 1: It's not it's in interrown and everything that you do, um, 488 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 1: family and otherwise. And Jim Trussell taught me a long 489 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 1: time ago. I was on it. I was. I was 490 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: at ohouse stay with him its first four years and 491 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,400 Speaker 1: he told me you have to recruit your own players 492 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: every day. That was then, that was like two thousand 493 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: and one. Um, you're always selling your program. You're always 494 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 1: looking to get more and more buying. Every opportunity you 495 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 1: have to interact with your with your player, with one 496 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: of the players as an opportunity to sell your program 497 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 1: and sell division. You know, sell the culture. It's cemented culture, 498 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 1: hammling a culture and you know, and and influence the 499 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 1: players in a positive way and get them to buy 500 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: into something it's bigger than themselves. And the buying too 501 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 1: the team, UM knowing that if they they helped the team, 502 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 1: um ye what they want, then ultimately they'll yet what 503 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: they want individually and so, UM, you know, I've always 504 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 1: been about recruiting players that are that are currently on 505 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 1: the team. UM, I think I just think you have 506 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 1: to do that. And so now there's there's there's no 507 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: difference just if you have if you want a specific answer, 508 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 1: you have to ask a specific question. Like right now, 509 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 1: I'm towards the end of the kind of these end 510 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: of spring meetings with the players. We just finished spring ball. 511 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,479 Speaker 1: It's past Saturday, and so I've got guys in here 512 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: from every fifteen minutes, from from eight to five, and uh, 513 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 1: you asked them, how are you happy here? You know 514 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,959 Speaker 1: you're straight up are you happy here? And how how 515 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 1: are things going? Um, it's just a place where you 516 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 1: see where you're going to be able to be successful 517 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 1: in the feeling off the field. Are there any issues 518 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 1: anything I need to know about anything I can do 519 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 1: to anything I can do to help? Um? And and 520 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: then there are issues, you know, let's let's talk about them. 521 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:07,239 Speaker 1: And that's that's legitimate, those legitimate questions to ask. I 522 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 1: mean and and uh, I mean, ultimately we're responsible for 523 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 1: for these for these young men and their well being, 524 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 1: and we promised them that we're going to help them 525 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 1: successful on and off the field. And if they're not happy, um, 526 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 1: you know here, then you know, is it something that 527 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 1: we can fix? Is it something there's some adjustments to 528 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 1: be to be made, and know what is the cause? 529 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 1: And we got guys, you know, they're eighteen, seventeen years old, 530 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 1: they're twenty two years old here, um, and so they're 531 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 1: all different status of development. I talked to a young 532 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 1: man earlier today and I said, hey, there was this, 533 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 1: you know, after the season, there was all these rumors 534 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 1: about you going to the portal and I talked to 535 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 1: you about it and and uh and and then I said, 536 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: you know what, let's revisit that, like what the heck 537 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 1: was going on? You know, you were a freshman, you 538 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 1: had a good year and and I know you were injured, 539 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 1: but you know, ultimately he was a little homesick. You know, 540 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 1: he was a little homesick, and he got injured and 541 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: he was he felt a little detached from the team 542 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 1: a little bit, and uh, you know, but he worked 543 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 1: through it and he's got he got his teammates, you know, 544 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: helping through it, and the coaches, and he worked through 545 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 1: it and now he's getting Now he doesn't get shaped. 546 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: You know, he's he's fine. But you know, if I 547 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 1: think he would be, quite a few of us that 548 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 1: have said, would have said when we were in college 549 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 1: that we had some might had some some doubts about, 550 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: you know, if we should be there or not, or 551 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 1: maybe some some uh maybe thought about maybe maybe going 552 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 1: home or going somewhere else. Um, it's just it's easily 553 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 1: that it's readily available to him now where back in 554 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 1: the day that wasn't really an option. Hardball in you 555 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: is interesting, big presence played the game. Can you be 556 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 1: friends with the coach at Michigan? You can't be too 557 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 1: closer friends, right, you can't go for the coach at Michigan. 558 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 1: I think it's tough. I think it's tough. I'm not 559 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: saying it's not. I'm not saying it's not possible, because 560 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 1: you know, I just think it depends on your kind 561 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 1: of your background, because you know there, you know, I 562 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 1: was told that Woody Hayes and Bullshit Black a little 563 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 1: good friends. They were. That's why, That's why, That's why 564 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 1: I was told. I think they might have had history together. 565 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 1: And my people hire all credible coaches and and things 566 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 1: like that. But um, you know it's uh, sometimes you 567 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: don't know what's going on behind the scenes, you know 568 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: with coaches in terms of their relationships. But um, with 569 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 1: this the rivalry the way it is, and that's not 570 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 1: really us really not having like coming from the same 571 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 1: tree and we've been on the staff together, you know, 572 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 1: things like that. Not you know, I think it's kind 573 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 1: of hard because, uh, you know, there's no reason to 574 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 1: be friends, right, there's no there's no reason to do that. 575 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 1: There's no what we're deeming the value would there be 576 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 1: to sort afford some type of friendship you know, right 577 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 1: here in the state, you know. Um, so it's kind 578 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 1: of just not there. It's not you know, there's some 579 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 1: guys like uh, you know like Lane Kiff and I 580 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 1: work with and Mario Chris Baul I work with him, 581 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 1: And you know Dan Lanning, I work with Dan, and 582 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 1: Billy nay Per. I work with Billy. You know, Beams Beamer, 583 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 1: you know, work with Beams. Also, you know Sam Pittman 584 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: good you know, great friends with Sam. He's doing a 585 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 1: great job of artist. Also, you know, obviously like if 586 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 1: we were you know, in the same conference or whatever, 587 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 1: we would would there be some type of friendship there 588 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 1: you know, because you know we know each other, we 589 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 1: work together, right, Mel, It's been a pleasure. Um, good 590 00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 1: luck to you Kenneth Walker. By the way, it took 591 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 1: me about three carries to tell Kenneth Walker, who's going 592 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 1: to play in the league. Did you when you spotted him, 593 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:08,919 Speaker 1: did you know instantly he was going to be that 594 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 1: profoundly productive at Michigan State. Well, when you when you 595 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 1: see it, we saw its film. Wait, he's like, man, 596 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 1: this guy can play. This guy's a back like you 597 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 1: can see it. But then when he got here, and 598 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 1: he got here the strength coaches were seeing him and 599 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 1: this guy's coming in the weight room and he's like 600 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 1: he's that guy like in the weight room, like he's 601 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,880 Speaker 1: coming in like working. He's strong, he's explosive, he's like 602 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 1: off the charts like in our weight room like he is. 603 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 1: He's like top of the elite in our weight room. 604 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 1: So then we go in the film, we started doing 605 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 1: drills in the conditioning program and you see, as you 606 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:48,759 Speaker 1: see it now you see him up in person, and um, 607 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 1: you se him in person, you're like, okay, it's it's 608 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 1: it's he is what we thought we were. Then you 609 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 1: start putting you put the ball in his hand and 610 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 1: no one can tackle the guy. We said, okay, we's 611 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,759 Speaker 1: got one. Like he's he he's that guy. You got 612 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 1: to remember like that, that whole class, that guys we 613 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:11,719 Speaker 1: brought in with him, the high school guys in the 614 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 1: in the transfers, all those guys. You know, we were 615 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 1: create those guys offer like this off of Zoom. We 616 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,239 Speaker 1: didn't we couldn't see those guys until they got here. 617 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 1: The first time that we like saw those guys, we're like, 618 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 1: we're checking them in the house. They're shaking her hands, 619 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 1: saying they nice to meet you. Finally in person. A 620 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 1: whole class. The guy we brought like thirty some guys 621 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 1: in what Zoom calls the FaceTime, he's a home run. 622 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 1: He's a home run. Tell me about it. Tell me 623 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 1: the first after the first game in the Northwestern game, 624 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 1: the locker room, I think we gave him the game 625 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,439 Speaker 1: ball and he tells me said, hey, coach, hey, thanks 626 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 1: for taking a chance on me, Like, thank you for 627 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:52,479 Speaker 1: taking a chance on us. Man, you get the best 628 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 1: back in the country, I'm saying, saying, the best running 629 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,319 Speaker 1: back in the country, like period, point blank. You know, 630 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 1: it was like you it was no. It's like a 631 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,760 Speaker 1: no brainer. It's like automatic. I mean like we didn't people. 632 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 1: People didn't know because it was everything was closed, like 633 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 1: I practiced and all that. The media wasn't that practice 634 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 1: and things like that, you know, because of COVID and 635 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:13,759 Speaker 1: some of those things. It was just kind of weld 636 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 1: just come out of COVID. It was well, there's like 637 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 1: no one really knew except us, like we knew. And 638 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 1: so because people were asking like like how's the running 639 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 1: back position? How they said, well, yeah, we got some 640 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:28,920 Speaker 1: you know, the guys looking pretty good. We're gonna be 641 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,320 Speaker 1: Then we go to Northwestern game in the first place, 642 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 1: like seventy five yards the girl and everybody's silid like 643 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 1: he would say that every day, man, like every single day. 644 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 1: Can't talk with a guy. I know he led the 645 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 1: country in yards after contact. Yeah, hips, everything you can 646 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 1: see that's a guy. You can see the weight room 647 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 1: on the field, that's weight rooms. Uh, you know, all 648 00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:01,719 Speaker 1: the NFL guys are calling me and asking me, you know, 649 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 1: as it's getting out to Danny Gritty, is there anything 650 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 1: we don't know about this guy? Like there's got to 651 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 1: be something wrong with this guy, Like what isn't it is, 652 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,920 Speaker 1: he'll some baggage. Is how's he with you know, with 653 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 1: his teammates, how's he with the academical He's clean. I mean, 654 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 1: that's he's that guys. It's him. That's right there, like 655 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,839 Speaker 1: there's no there's nothing else. It's all right there. I mean, 656 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:29,879 Speaker 1: it's rare that you get a guy like that. It's 657 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 1: he's just a clean guy on the field. Off the field, 658 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:36,440 Speaker 1: he's humble, and he and he's a he's a fierce competitor, 659 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:40,359 Speaker 1: and he's a baller. He's a straight baller. Mal. It's 660 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 1: been absolutely great, man, it's been great for me. Thanks 661 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:45,839 Speaker 1: thanks for having me. You're one of my You're one 662 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,440 Speaker 1: of my favorites, man, I mean, like you're you're I'm 663 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:52,920 Speaker 1: pinching myself right now. We no, man, we You're the first. 664 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:54,880 Speaker 1: In fact, we had a list of college coaches and 665 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 1: I said, get me, Mal Tucker, we need to promote 666 00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 1: this guy. I really appreciate it. I appreciate you. Thank 667 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 1: you so much. All right now, good luck to you. Yeah, 668 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 1: thank you so much. Go Green the volume. Make sure 669 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,840 Speaker 1: to check out the Draymon Green Show. 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