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Speaker 2: you know, on today's show, Dan, there there was a
Speaker 2: lot of news that's been breaking over the last couple
Speaker 2: of weeks, but we got a pretty big one, I
Speaker 2: would say, yesterday. As it does relate to the ACC
Speaker 2: and what their model looks like. It was pretty detailed.
Speaker 2: They trotted that out there. So we're going to talk
Speaker 2: about that, I think, for a period of time here
Speaker 2: in addition to some of the other news in and
Speaker 2: around the world of college football. We're getting to the
Speaker 2: point now when folks listen to this, you know, it
Speaker 2: may be the last day of July. For many others
Speaker 2: it'll be the first day of August. The season in
Speaker 2: whatever format that takes on, is getting awfully big in
Speaker 2: the window. We're coming to the point now where you
Speaker 2: and I have to hunker down. We have to start
Speaker 2: thinking about, like, all right, how are we going to
Speaker 2: preview this now that we have schedules, Now that we're
Speaker 2: starting to see something of a trend line as it
Speaker 2: relates to college football and scheduling in formats and just
Speaker 2: what this whole dang thing looks like if and when
Speaker 2: they decide to kick it off. So I think that's
Speaker 2: how we're going to spend our time here this evening.
Speaker 2: If you're cool with that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And if you're wondering, we wanted to start conference
Speaker 1: and division previews in early July. We that is on
Speaker 1: our schedule to do, and we really don't have clarity yet.
Speaker 1: I mean, the ACC has helped a good amount, but
Speaker 1: we're waiting on the SEC. Even though things tend to
Speaker 1: be trending. It's according to what it was SI's Ross
Speaker 1: Ellinger who I saw the report from that the SEC
Speaker 1: is leading to either a ten game or a ten
Speaker 1: plus one like the ACC conference schedule for the fall
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty. Obviously, we've heard from the PAC twelve
Speaker 1: and the Big Ten. It seems like the Big twelve
Speaker 1: is full speed ahead in some fashion to try to
Speaker 1: get to twelve. We'll see about that. Bob Bowlsby and
Speaker 1: that conference. They're sort of waiting to see what they
Speaker 1: can do. I've seen places like Texas originally said fifty
Speaker 1: percent now it's down to twenty five percent capacity, So
Speaker 1: that conference seems to be adjusting on the fly as well.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I would love to be doing I'd
Speaker 1: love to be talking about Utah State, Boise State, I'd
Speaker 1: love to be talking about cal And Minnesota and FIU,
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Speaker 2: Shall we dive into news?
Speaker 1: I'm so ready.
Speaker 2: Before we get to the breaking ACC Notre Dame news.
Speaker 2: You love this.
Speaker 1: This is the second at least chunky Notre Dame episode
Speaker 1: in what a week? Week and a half.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, this is Campbell's chunky Notre Dame right here.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm right.
Speaker 2: Let's get to some of the other stuff and let's
Speaker 2: circle back on the ACCA bit since that is the biggest,
Speaker 2: So we talk about the ACC unveiling its model. The
Speaker 2: sec per Ross Dellinger is reportedly moving closer to their
Speaker 2: own version of a conference only model. The model was
Speaker 2: supposedly agreed to in part by a majority of athletic
Speaker 2: directors on a Wednesday virtual meeting. It looks like it's
Speaker 2: an SEC only ten game schedule. Whatever it is has
Speaker 2: to eventually be ratified by the league presidents. But Ross
Speaker 2: was quick to point out that it's a fluid situation.
Speaker 2: It's changing very quickly. My guess is that we know
Speaker 2: where it's headed. It is certainly not official at this juncture.
Speaker 2: It definitely could impact things like non conference schedules, especially
Speaker 2: when we get to our acc bit and talk about
Speaker 2: their model. So a very fluid situation, a lotch changing,
Speaker 2: but it does sound like the SEC is moving in
Speaker 2: a direction somewhat soon to rubber stamp what their model
Speaker 2: looks like. Now that is significant because that would make
Speaker 2: the Big twelve the loan holdout. As you said, Daniel,
Speaker 2: we're hearing some news on the Big twelve front. The
Speaker 2: latest thing that I heard was that news tidbit that
Speaker 2: you mentioned about Texas looking at twenty five percent attendance
Speaker 2: capacity for home football games in the fall, that is
Speaker 2: per their interim university president. I quote to you an
Speaker 2: article here from CBS Sports in a campus wide email,
Speaker 2: Interim university President Jay Hartzel wrote that the university is
Speaker 2: examining a twenty five percent capacity limit at Daryl K.
Speaker 2: Royal Memorial Stadium for football games. Given that the capacity
Speaker 2: is more than ninety five thousand seats, that would cap
Speaker 2: capacity at just under what is this twenty four thousand fans.
Speaker 2: You may recall back in June, the governor of Texas
Speaker 2: issued a statewide mandate limiting capacity for all stadiums that
Speaker 2: are hosting pro and collegiate games at fifty percent. So
Speaker 2: Texas right now dealing with a lot of stuff as
Speaker 2: it relates to COVID nineteen. They've been hit really hard.
Speaker 2: Out of an abundance of caution. They're trying to take
Speaker 2: extra measures here by cutting that fifty percent down to
Speaker 2: twenty five percent. Again, a lot of this very fluid.
Speaker 2: We don't even know what the Big twelve is going
Speaker 2: to do at this point. Bob Bolsman might just play
Speaker 2: all the games on his own right like he is.
Speaker 2: He is the most determined man in the room to
Speaker 2: get twelve games in. If there are fans and DKR,
Speaker 2: it looks like it's going to be of the twenty
Speaker 2: five percent variety.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Texas's negotiations with a global health crisis appear to
Speaker 1: be ongoing. Fifty percent down to twenty five percent. Feel
Speaker 1: like we're not going to get a news report that
Speaker 1: Texas is up to seventy percent now in what they're
Speaker 1: thinking for the DKR capacity. So negotiations are ongoing between
Speaker 1: the forty acres and a deadly virus.
Speaker 2: The other bit of Big twelve news. It sort of
Speaker 2: took a back seat to all the COVID nineteen stuff
Speaker 2: going around, but Bruce Felman reports that Lincoln Riley and
Speaker 2: Oklahoma have a new six year contract that will run
Speaker 2: through twenty twenty five. Obviously a good move for Oklahoma.
Speaker 2: For as much as we have talked on this program
Speaker 2: about new co which is especially ones that take over
Speaker 2: for legends like Bob Stoops being basically a coin flip,
Speaker 2: Lincoln Riley has not been a coin flip. I think
Speaker 2: I think it's apparent he's gonna work out just fine.
Speaker 2: Multiple Heisman Trophy winners, multiple Playoff appearances, clearly a move
Speaker 2: that worked out for the better for Oklahoma. They were
Speaker 2: wise to lock them up. Who knows how long that's
Speaker 2: gonna last, right, there's always like NFL scuttle butt around
Speaker 2: Lincoln Riley's name, but for the time being, they got
Speaker 2: their man. They locked him down for a new six
Speaker 2: year deal.
Speaker 1: Buddy, you can be an air raid coach that gets
Speaker 1: fired and still get an NFL job. That's how it works,
Speaker 1: So you might as well sign an extension because if
Speaker 1: you're good, great, If you're bad, still pretty good, still
Speaker 1: pretty good to be Lincoln Riley. And I believe I
Speaker 1: saw Alex Grinch, his defensive coordinator hired last year, he
Speaker 1: got extended and he got a new deal. And I
Speaker 1: know everybody's lasting memory of Oklahoma's defense was what happened
Speaker 1: against LSU, especially in that first half. But if you
Speaker 1: watched Oklahoma last year, there were definite steps in the
Speaker 1: right direction. They happened to play maybe the greatest offense
Speaker 1: of all time in a playoff game. I don't think
Speaker 1: it's fully fair, although we all saw it with our eyes.
Speaker 1: But it's not fully fair to judge the Alex Grinch
Speaker 1: experience in Norman after a year, and not fully fair
Speaker 1: to look at what Lincoln Riley has done in Norman
Speaker 1: as a reflection of just that specific game. But that's
Speaker 1: what we all saw last so I think it's a
Speaker 1: no brainer decision to extend and give Lincoln Riley a raise,
Speaker 1: and hopefully they can become a more complete team because
Speaker 1: that would make Oklahoma more fun on the national level.
Speaker 1: Looking forward to it for.
Speaker 2: Sure as we shift gears now and steer into the
Speaker 2: ACC news. One other tidbit that I am very curious
Speaker 2: to see if it sets any kind of precedent. Virginia
Speaker 2: Tech cornerback. You may have seen this, Caleb Farley. He
Speaker 2: is opting out playing the season. He's going to prepare
Speaker 2: for the NFL Draft. It's significant not just for Virginia Tech,
Speaker 2: but I think as precedents go for college football. This
Speaker 2: is a guy who's a projected first round pick. The
Speaker 2: backstory here is that his mom died a breast cancer
Speaker 2: two years ago. The quote from him is, I cannot
Speaker 2: afford to lose another parent or loved one. Though the
Speaker 2: competitor in me wants badly to play this season, I
Speaker 2: cannot ignore what's going on in my heart. I must
Speaker 2: make the decision that brings me the most piece. So look,
Speaker 2: it's you can't fault the kid for making that decision.
Speaker 2: He's got a bright future in front of him. Certainly
Speaker 2: as it relates to that Virginia Tech secondary, it's going
Speaker 2: to be a bit of a hit. He's a premier,
Speaker 2: elite caliber talent. But you know, not just in face
Speaker 2: of this pandemic, but certainly with regard to college athletes
Speaker 2: who don't get paid and have a lot on the line,
Speaker 2: you got to make the decision that's best for you.
Speaker 2: And he's clearly doing that here, so you wish him well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And there are certain guys around the country who
Speaker 1: it feels like they're pretty cemented into their draft stock,
Speaker 1: especially at the top of the first round, be it
Speaker 1: you know, Justin Fields or Trevor Lawrence or Pinay Seul,
Speaker 1: guys like that. Travis etn should be a pretty high pick.
Speaker 1: But there's you know, everybody else is a borderline guy.
Speaker 1: Everybody else basically is looking at the draft outside of
Speaker 1: you know, your consensus eight twelve and even that. It's however,
Speaker 1: long months and months ahead of the NFL Draft, a
Speaker 1: lot can happen in terms of perception, but everybody else
Speaker 1: is borderline. Everybody else needs to improve their stock. So
Speaker 1: it's a tough decision because from as you said, at
Speaker 1: human angle, these guys are thinking about family members and
Speaker 1: thinking about possibly immunal compromise family members, and also considering
Speaker 1: perhaps And I don't know if this is true or
Speaker 1: not about Virginia Tech, but it's is the school I'm
Speaker 1: supposed to return to handling everything? Well? Do I have
Speaker 1: a good relationship with coaches? Do I believe that they're
Speaker 1: going to continue handling everything? Well? How do I feel
Speaker 1: about the locker room and culture there? So there's a
Speaker 1: ton of factors. He will not be the last one
Speaker 1: to make this decision. We've seen some NFL players do it.
Speaker 1: And NFL players are getting paid even not playing, so
Speaker 1: it is it is a consideration. Obviously, there have been
Speaker 1: players in years past, and I'm sure it'll move forward
Speaker 1: the same way that take out pretty hefty insurance policies
Speaker 1: against their their draft situation and you know, injury and
Speaker 1: or sickness whatever things out of their hands. So it'll
Speaker 1: be fascinating to watch. But I think I am echoing
Speaker 1: what you're thinking and saying that it's really difficult on
Speaker 1: a on a human angle to blame any of these
Speaker 1: guys if that's the consideration they're making about the others
Speaker 1: in their lives.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it's trust me it when it happens, it
Speaker 2: shades your perspective on life. And for sure you know so.
Speaker 2: I wish them well, I wish them well. It's a
Speaker 2: blow for Virginia Tech, but I wish Caleb fairly well. Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 2: all that out of the way.
Speaker 1: Long time ACC super fan Ty hilden Brand, let's talk
Speaker 1: in about the best conference in college foot.
Speaker 2: The Atlantic Coast Conference DAN. They are a set now
Speaker 2: with their eleven game slate. It includes Notre Dame. The
Speaker 2: board of directors voted on Wednesday to proceed with an
Speaker 2: eleven game football season. It begins the weekend of September twelfth.
Speaker 2: It includes FBS independent Notre Dame playing a full league schedule.
Speaker 2: Of course, this is all contingent on public health guidance
Speaker 2: allowing it. But here's what we're looking at. All ACC
Speaker 2: schools and Notre Dame are going to play ten conference
Speaker 2: games plus one non conference game of their choosing. Notre
Speaker 2: Dame will be eligible for the ACC championship game. There
Speaker 2: will be no divisions.
Speaker 1: Do we know who Notre Dame will choose?
Speaker 2: Per what I'm seeing here from the ACC's guidance, it
Speaker 2: has to be an in state school, so I guess
Speaker 2: they've got some options in that regard, but it would
Speaker 2: have to be a school in state in Indiana.
Speaker 1: Well, it's not going to be Indiana Purdue. So what's
Speaker 1: up ball State? How's life ball State?
Speaker 2: We know from our previous show is looking for company.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess it could be an FCS school something
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Notre Dame. And we're not going to harp too
Speaker 2: much of Notre Dame, but Notre Dame really is the
Speaker 2: interesting tidbit here. It does make the conference a fifteen
Speaker 2: team conference for this season. This season only, they would
Speaker 2: be eligible for the ACC slot in the Orange Bowl
Speaker 2: if they're not selected as a playoff semi finalist, and
Speaker 2: all television revenue for the twenty twenty season, including those
Speaker 2: NBC broadcasts for Notre Dame home games, will be shared
Speaker 2: equally by all fifteen institutions. I saw out on the
Speaker 2: Athletic Pete Sampson did a really good job writing this
Speaker 2: thing up talking about the predicament that Jack Swarbrick was in. Basically,
Speaker 2: Swarbricks saw the writing on the wall and he knew
Speaker 2: that you need to try and latch on here with
Speaker 2: the ACC if you want to guarantee that you're going
Speaker 2: to have something of a schedule by the time the
Speaker 2: wheel stops spinning. Otherwise, if everyone goes conference only and
Speaker 2: Notre Dame's left out in the cold, like, that's just
Speaker 2: not that's not feasible for them. So he knew going
Speaker 2: into these negotiations that he was going to have to
Speaker 2: give up that NBC money, and I give him credit
Speaker 2: for doing so, for pulling the trigger. Now, Notre Dame
Speaker 2: already had six ACC League games as part of their
Speaker 2: twenty twenty schedule, including Clemson. That game that we've talked
Speaker 2: about throughout the course of the preseason.
Speaker 1: Still happening still in South Bend, South.
Speaker 2: Bend, YEP. They are now adding Florida State, Boston College, Pittsburgh,
Speaker 2: and North Carolina to their schedule.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's start with Notre Dame first and foremost. Getting
Speaker 1: Notre Dame Florida State is fantastic because you're getting what
Speaker 1: a redo of the pick play game from I don't
Speaker 1: even know when that was, twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen, fifteen,
Speaker 1: somewhere in there. You're getting a redo of that. A
Speaker 1: nice rematch, just two traditional I guess in the modern sense.
Speaker 1: Powers I like the fact that Notre Dame's playing PITT.
Speaker 1: I like that matchup. I like that that's a matchup
Speaker 1: that exists. It just feels like they are college football cousins, right, yeah, sure,
Speaker 1: it like. I don't think that game needs to be
Speaker 1: played every year, but I like that kind of matchup.
Speaker 1: I like that Clemson Notre Dame is staying in South
Speaker 1: Bend because that was a game I think everybody had
Speaker 1: circled as one of the big big games coming into
Speaker 1: the season, no matter what the season looks like. So
Speaker 1: that's a relief. How does it make you feel, as
Speaker 1: somebody used to, I guess this hybrid schedule of you know,
Speaker 1: keeping Michigan and USC or Stanford, but also playing ACC
Speaker 1: games and sort of having the Notre Dame hand and
Speaker 1: two different cookie jars.
Speaker 2: I like things that are different, and this is very
Speaker 2: different for Notre game.
Speaker 1: You've been talking about a quirk for a while.
Speaker 2: This is not quite the flex scheduling that I think
Speaker 2: we discussed on one of our previous episodes, but it's
Speaker 2: close enough. They're changing this on the fly weeks before
Speaker 2: the season is set to begin, and I think it's
Speaker 2: feasible provided that health guidance will allow it. I think
Speaker 2: it makes sense. It definitely keeps teams a little bit
Speaker 2: more self contained within these conferences, and I like it.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I am curious to see if this
Speaker 2: pushes Notre Dame in more of a conference direction after
Speaker 2: twenty twenty. I think that's my biggest curiosity. I'm curious
Speaker 2: to see what kind of doors it opens for them.
Speaker 2: They may find that being in a conference gets them
Speaker 2: things that they couldn't get from the outside. They're like
Speaker 2: the second best team in the conference now behind Clemson, right.
Speaker 1: Probably, Yeah, there's no obvious choice. North Carolina's interesting. North
Speaker 1: Carolina has the second or I guess depending because I'm
Speaker 1: just such a disgusting Michael Cunningham fan at this point,
Speaker 1: But on how you feel about Michael Coneyham. To have
Speaker 1: Sam Howell at UNC, that's an interesting case, especially with
Speaker 1: how they finished last year. But yeah, I think in
Speaker 1: terms of a complete team, Notre Dame is closer than
Speaker 1: North Carolina at this point. The thing that's interesting to me,
Speaker 1: and not just about the ACC and not just about
Speaker 1: Notre Dame. But I guess, especially with Notre Dame, is
Speaker 1: we're always in search of rivalries. We've been denied rivalries.
Speaker 1: You know, the backyard brawl disappears, the border war disappears.
Speaker 1: With all these things that made you know, Texas, Texas
Speaker 1: A and M that disappears. So the fact is, if
Speaker 1: we get more conference games in the PAC twelve, the SEC,
Speaker 1: the ACC, whatever, the Big Ten. If we get more
Speaker 1: conference games, that ups the percentage the likelihood of all
Speaker 1: of a sudden Notre Dame and Pit. That's the example
Speaker 1: I used earlier. What if that game's super weird. What
Speaker 1: if that's a fifty two to fifty one shootout and
Speaker 1: there's bad blood. It's like in Texas A and m
Speaker 1: LSU from a couple of years ago, that goes you know,
Speaker 1: it has a weird ending and there's emotions all of
Speaker 1: a sudden. We want to see more Notre Dame Pit.
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, we want to see more Notre
Speaker 1: Dame North Carolina. If there's you know something, you know,
Speaker 1: Brian Kelly and Mac Brown fight at midfield, like Jim
Speaker 1: Harbaugh and Pete Carroll all those years back, it ups
Speaker 1: the potential, especially with having a big program like Notre
Speaker 1: Dame involved, that we're creating new memories tie and I'm
Speaker 1: for that that's always it's interesting to me new tradition
Speaker 1: Bill Hancock style, Yeah, but on the field and actually
Speaker 1: real to me. So I'm totally you know, we had
Speaker 1: that close nail bier last year with what it was
Speaker 1: A and M. Georgia to get more of A and M.
Speaker 1: Georgia with you know, big personalities at head coach and recruiting,
Speaker 1: you know, both teams recruiting in top five ish ways.
Speaker 1: I think those kinds of new annual rivalries, annual matchups,
Speaker 1: I think is nothing but great, especially in the region
Speaker 1: for the sport, because absolutely there are you know, if
Speaker 1: Notre Dame's playing Boston College every year, absolutely there are
Speaker 1: families with Notre Dame in Boston College, brothers and sisters
Speaker 1: or Pitt brothers. You know that exists in specific regions.
Speaker 1: So more of that is a win. And we already
Speaker 1: see it with the SEC and ACC. Be it with Clemson,
Speaker 1: South Carolina, Georgia, Georgia Tech. Where you can still have
Speaker 1: Notre Dame scheduling say USC or Michigan in the four
Speaker 1: you know, in a couple of the four non conference
Speaker 1: parts of their schedule. But do we really need to
Speaker 1: see more of Notre Dame against American Conference teams or
Speaker 1: MAC teams or you know, does Notre Dame Stanford have
Speaker 1: to be something that carries on forever and ever and ever.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm good with the Irish evolving.
Speaker 2: That's may though, Well, this is definitely different. The other
Speaker 2: thing that's different from an ACC standpoint is there's no division.
Speaker 2: The way that they're gonna determine who wins the conference.
Speaker 2: It's going to be based on the conference game winning percentage.
Speaker 1: The top two the marriage.
Speaker 2: Yeah, top two teams are going to play in Charlotte
Speaker 2: either December the twelfth or nineteenth, depending on again how
Speaker 2: things go, and that will be your your conference championship game.
Speaker 2: The thing that comes to mind from me about all
Speaker 2: this this I don't know momentum we're seeing around conference
Speaker 2: only games. There's no connective tissue. You don't have these
Speaker 2: non conference games, these similarities that you can use as
Speaker 2: a frame of reference.
Speaker 1: What do you mean though, what do you mean by that?
Speaker 2: Well, if the SEC plays ten conference only games and
Speaker 2: the Big ten plays ten conference only games, the ACC
Speaker 2: pretty much plays ten conference only games. Yeah, throw in
Speaker 2: that one odd ball. I'm assuming the Big twelve is
Speaker 2: going to have to follow suit. The PAC twelves already announced, Well.
Speaker 1: The ACC I don't think is going to go plus one.
Speaker 1: I think they'll erase that plus one if the SEC
Speaker 1: saying we're going ten only, I don't. I think a
Speaker 1: lot of that was to keep some of those ACC
Speaker 1: SEC rivalries.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's that's my hunch. But the SEC per
Speaker 2: reports is leaning towards ten games right conference only. So
Speaker 2: my point is, if you don't have that non conference
Speaker 2: connective tissue, those frames of reference, you really have no
Speaker 2: mathematical way to compare teams against one another. And that
Speaker 2: really really steers into what I think makes college football
Speaker 2: our favorite sport. We're gonna have so much argument over
Speaker 2: who the best teams are. We're gonna have no real
Speaker 2: means of comparison other than the eye test, and at
Speaker 2: least for one season, that makes what we do very interesting.
Speaker 2: Hopefully that piques interest for the full ten games slate
Speaker 2: the full way through, there will be so much argument
Speaker 2: over which teams are the best, which team should go
Speaker 2: to a playoff, assuming we can even conduct one, that
Speaker 2: it doesn't even matter who's playing whom. Here in the ACC,
Speaker 2: these little pods that we are forming now to try
Speaker 2: and stage a season. That might be the quirk that
Speaker 2: I think I've been referencing this whole long off season
Speaker 2: of uncertainty.
Speaker 1: I kind of go the other way. I kind of
Speaker 1: go the fact that this is trending more towards bangers
Speaker 1: only that will actually know more about teams. So okay,
Speaker 1: So if Sam Howell lights up Auburn in this now
Speaker 1: alternate universe early on in the season for North Carolina
Speaker 1: doesn't mean Auburn's bad. It doesn't mean Auburn's bad. It
Speaker 1: doesn't mean whatever Auburn showed itself to be against North
Speaker 1: Carolina is who Auburn would end up week eight nine
Speaker 1: when we're comparing Auburn to everybody else. But we don't
Speaker 1: have schedules that are inflated by lower opponents, by some
Speaker 1: teams playing crazy tough road games as part of their
Speaker 1: non conference, some teams playing neutral site games in an
Speaker 1: NFL stadium, some teams playing three lower you know, if
Speaker 1: it's FCS or G five whatever, and not really scheduling
Speaker 1: a Power five opponent. The fact is, while it definitely
Speaker 1: sucks for the sport that G five teams are not
Speaker 1: receiving payouts to help fund other athletics. I feel like
Speaker 1: the fact is Florida State's playing ten ACC teams that
Speaker 1: are likely within a similar space in terms of recruiting
Speaker 1: and spending money. And you know, obviously teams recruit differently,
Speaker 1: but how seriously they take football. So what we can
Speaker 1: know about Georgia Tech after five weeks or NC State
Speaker 1: after five weeks? I think it gives us better data
Speaker 1: than having And I know Georgia Tech act was scheduled
Speaker 1: to play Clemson early on, but if they're playing William
Speaker 1: and Mary, if they're playing Bowling Green, I think that
Speaker 1: skews things a little bit. Whereas now we know, okay,
Speaker 1: we know what Miami looks like against similar competition, and
Speaker 1: we can compare that against cal or TCU.
Speaker 2: But there's no mathematical way to do it. What does
Speaker 2: this do to poor Jerry Palm or our friend Bill Connolly,
Speaker 2: right like, yeah, so much of the way that these
Speaker 2: metrics work, things that we rely upon to give us
Speaker 2: some sense of who's good and who isn't, that kind
Speaker 2: of goes out the window because you won't have that
Speaker 2: connective tissue. And by the way, just through the course
Speaker 2: of this very discussion, not going to play the Sound
Speaker 2: sources have confirmed to ESPN the SEC is going to
Speaker 2: start its season on September the twenty sixth, conference only games,
Speaker 2: ten of them. Okay, they're going to run through December
Speaker 2: the nineteenth, So again, playing within themselves. It'll make things
Speaker 2: very interesting in the SEC.
Speaker 1: You said conference only confirming okay, six conference only Okay.
Speaker 2: There's not going to be that crossover component here to
Speaker 2: the schedule, and it really is a bunch of little
Speaker 2: fiefdoms playing within themselves. Poor old Barry Alvarez or someone
Speaker 2: like Barry Alvarez is going to have to sit in
Speaker 2: a room with twelve other people and figure it out.
Speaker 1: I don't think we're getting a playoff, don't I don't
Speaker 1: think we're going to get a playoff. I think we're
Speaker 1: going to have champions themselves champions. Well, I think maybe
Speaker 1: we'll have conference champions and then we'll have arguments. And
Speaker 1: that's fine because and we've talked about this before, and
Speaker 1: this was the point I like to make about the
Speaker 1: playoff that this year, especially college football is a TV show.
Speaker 1: You're looking at it through a lens of how do
Speaker 1: you compare teams when deciding who gets to go to
Speaker 1: the Rose Bawl, Who gets a New Year six game?
Speaker 1: Who gets a college football playoff? Berth, This is a
Speaker 1: TV show this year. College football is existing merely to
Speaker 1: exist this fall.
Speaker 2: It is so European soccer without the Champions League, right.
Speaker 1: Exactly we can come up with we can You know,
Speaker 1: everybody's going to be simming all sorts of playoffs at
Speaker 1: the end of the year if we don't have an
Speaker 1: actual postseason, which is fine because I while I don't
Speaker 1: love discussion for the sake of discussion, I'd rather see
Speaker 1: things settled on the field in some fashion. I don't
Speaker 1: think that's the point of this season. I don't think
Speaker 1: if if we're pushing back to September twenty sixth, if
Speaker 1: we're saying conference only schedule, you know, teams going from
Speaker 1: eight conference games and some conferences to ten, nine to
Speaker 1: ten whatever, the competitive reasons for the twenty twenty season
Speaker 1: exists less the just put and pen to paper existing
Speaker 1: exists a whole lot more So, I don't I don't
Speaker 1: shed too many tiers for Bill c and Jerry Palm,
Speaker 1: who I both. I love both of them dearly, but
Speaker 1: I think the point is just simply they're just it's
Speaker 1: sort of corralled exhibitions at this point, which is fine
Speaker 1: because I'm going to watch all of them enthusiastically and
Speaker 1: hope that everybody's happy and healthy.
Speaker 2: Who are your winners and losers here? I think I
Speaker 2: think big winner has to be ACC network. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen the TV schedule, but in terms of ratings, yeah,
Speaker 1: they're going to do. Everybody's going to be at home
Speaker 1: pretty much. You know, we'll have some stadiums with limited capacity.
Speaker 1: But yeah, TV is a huge winner here. TV is
Speaker 1: a huge winner because of that quirk in ESPN plus. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, any station that can carry a game I
Speaker 1: think is a winner. I think, you know, I don't
Speaker 1: have to tell you.
Speaker 2: I don't have to tell the people that listen to
Speaker 2: this show, most of whom have been cooped up for
Speaker 2: many months now, that sports on TV is a big deal.
Speaker 2: It's we're not getting back to normal maybe anytime soon,
Speaker 2: but it'll at least give us that sense of normalcy
Speaker 2: to see some of the sports that we love on
Speaker 2: TV again. Caveat if they can pull it all off
Speaker 2: and if health allows for it.
Speaker 1: Every local mattress company advertising during the games, big winner.
Speaker 2: Huge winner. Yeah, in terms of winners and losers. I'll
Speaker 2: stay with Notre Dame for just one second. Okay, I
Speaker 2: think this is a win for them. I think it
Speaker 2: was a way for them to lock up at least
Speaker 2: ten games. I think Jack Swarbrick had to make the move.
Speaker 2: I think he did the right thing. I don't think
Speaker 2: there will be much of a much of a negative,
Speaker 2: much of a drawback for them.
Speaker 1: I mean, they're doing it with their other sports already.
Speaker 1: Notre Dame is an ACC team. It makes a ton
Speaker 1: of sense. Yeah, it makes it. What's a basketball coach's name,
Speaker 1: Big Slick, tair Bray, Mike Bray. He's been doing it forever.
Speaker 2: He's been doing it forever. So they, like I told
Speaker 2: you earlier, they got the friends referral code here to
Speaker 2: get in for one year only to the ACC, now
Speaker 2: a fifteen team super conference. We'll see where it goes.
Speaker 1: So are you good with it? Do you want it
Speaker 1: to be long term? As a Notre Dame person.
Speaker 2: I have always wanted them to join a conference.
Speaker 1: Okay, you've been skeptical of them actually making that decision,
Speaker 1: but you've been pro be it Big ten, ACC, Big
Speaker 1: twelve one.
Speaker 2: I've been pro Big ten for a long time, okay,
Speaker 2: and I would be pro ACC if it was a
Speaker 2: move they decided to make.
Speaker 1: What's interesting about this, though, tie is whenever it is,
Speaker 1: we push forward to a new normal, because we're not
Speaker 1: going back. We're never going back. Life moves forward. There's
Speaker 1: going to be some sort of new normal once things
Speaker 1: are hopefully better. What's interesting is there seems to have
Speaker 1: been conversations about what are conferences really doing for these
Speaker 1: major major programs beyond limiting their television earning potential. So
Speaker 1: if it's USC or Oregon, if it's Texas or Oklahoma,
Speaker 1: if it's Miami, Florida, state, whatever, in the ACC, a
Speaker 1: lot of these programs could probably earn more money at
Speaker 1: this point signing TV deals a la Notre Dame signing
Speaker 1: a deal with ESPN. Obviously, we have conference networks already,
Speaker 1: but as the NCAA and these conferences aren't needed as
Speaker 1: much as they used to be, they're bow tie ins,
Speaker 1: they're TV deals. It's interesting that we're having this conversation
Speaker 1: about Notre Dame going a conference route when we could
Speaker 1: be seeing more Notre Dames as TV deals expire and
Speaker 1: places are saying, well, I mean we could, we could
Speaker 1: do this all a cart and make some more cash,
Speaker 1: just saying yep, Alabama football just signed a deal with
Speaker 1: CBS and they're going to make one hundred million dollars
Speaker 1: a year. It's wild. It's wild to think about the
Speaker 1: next five to seven years, however long it's going to
Speaker 1: take for for everything to return or to progress to
Speaker 1: that new normal.
Speaker 2: I think Notre Dame. I think conference networks. I think
Speaker 2: any TV network that can carry football is a big
Speaker 2: winner because there will be quirks here. There will be
Speaker 2: some asymmetry to when seasons start and when they finish,
Speaker 2: and who's playing who's not playing. I think, I think
Speaker 2: from a fans perspective, it will stay interesting much much
Speaker 2: deeper into the season than we are accustomed to.
Speaker 1: Not a sponsor, but I'm I've been very happy with
Speaker 1: my Roku. So if you are suddenly meeting some sort
Speaker 1: of OTT device to watch more of your team's games
Speaker 1: because everything is conference only all of the sudden, I've
Speaker 1: been happy with the Roku. Do you use anything to
Speaker 1: stream PlayStation.
Speaker 2: Or I use the Roku? Yeah? The KU's great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, send us some stuff Roku. How about that?
Speaker 2: The big loser here? It may only be one. It's
Speaker 2: got to be Syracuse in their way schedule, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh, Bunny.
Speaker 2: Have you seen this thing? Yeah, I don't know. I
Speaker 2: haven't seen dates on this yet. I don't think they've
Speaker 2: they've given us that yet. But in this new format,
Speaker 2: Syracuse has away games against Clemson, Louisville, North Carolina, Notre
Speaker 2: Dame in Pitt.
Speaker 1: It's tough sliding.
Speaker 2: That's pretty tough right there.
Speaker 1: And home games are fine. It's such a crazy home
Speaker 1: road split. And I don't know if it's because they
Speaker 1: just value because the part of the thinking with the
Speaker 1: scheduling is we want to make this more regional. We
Speaker 1: want to cut down on travel time and expenses whatever,
Speaker 1: and do everything to sort of minimize whatever it is
Speaker 1: that travel is going to look like this fall. And
Speaker 1: the fact is, not only does Syracuse get all of
Speaker 1: their tough games basically on the road. They're going to Louisville,
Speaker 1: they're going to North Carolina, they're going down to Clemson.
Speaker 1: Is there not? I mean Syracuse was never close to
Speaker 1: a lot of plays outside of Pitt Boston College, I guess,
Speaker 1: relatively speaking. But they're not only traveling far and wide,
Speaker 1: they're playing outside of I guess Florida State and Miami
Speaker 1: heavy hitters within the conference, big loss.
Speaker 2: I feel pretty much the same about Virginia's road schedule.
Speaker 1: Yes, so do I.
Speaker 2: Clemson, Florida State, Miami, Virginia Tech and then Wake. Those
Speaker 2: are four pretty tough places to play, right there. Sure.
Speaker 1: I mean when we say tough places, we mean in
Speaker 1: a normal year, like Lane Stadium is not going to
Speaker 1: be tough this year. True, Virginia Tech could be, but
Speaker 1: Lane Stadium's knocking, it's going to be very echo we
Speaker 1: enter sam Man if that is still a thing in
Speaker 1: Lane Stadium. So you're right. And I actually think Syracuse's
Speaker 1: home field advantage in some ways could be more pronounced
Speaker 1: in the Carrier Dome like a big, hollow, haunted arena.
Speaker 1: But they don't. They don't have any of those real
Speaker 1: tough games at home.
Speaker 2: Who else jumps out at you here?
Speaker 1: Yeah? You mentioned Virginia North Carolina In terms of ideal situations,
Speaker 1: Louisville and Duke are also in a good place. So
Speaker 1: let's start. I guess North Carolina does go on the
Speaker 1: road and they take on Florida State, Miami and Division
Speaker 1: champ in Virginia from last year a very new look Virginia,
Speaker 1: I would say so. And it's not like going to
Speaker 1: Charlottesville is the craziest, toughest thing to do in normal years, right,
Speaker 1: But North Carolina with a nice home road split, Louisville
Speaker 1: getting Boston College, Georgia Tech, Notre Dame's will be very
Speaker 1: tough on the road. But then Pitton Virginia. I think
Speaker 1: Pitt's going to be interesting on defense, but it's manageable.
Speaker 1: And where if our concerned with Louisville, and we'll talk
Speaker 1: more about this on our eventual ACC preview, if the
Speaker 1: concern about Louisville is how much better can that defense get?
Speaker 1: We're talking a new look Florida State offense, a Miami
Speaker 1: offense that should be better with Derek King but still
Speaker 1: had a ton of trouble protecting the quarterback last year.
Speaker 1: Syracuse would struggle on offense. Virginia Tech, which has been inconsistent,
Speaker 1: but I guess was more promising with Hendon Hooker and
Speaker 1: a Wake team that lost their quarterback. So in terms
Speaker 1: of Louisville's growth, that's pretty great. That seems pretty fricking
Speaker 1: amazing for the Cardinals, and Clemson's in a good spot.
Speaker 2: Clemson's in a really good spot. Definitely tougher on the road.
Speaker 2: Florida State, Virginia Tech included on that away slate, But
Speaker 2: you know, clearly the conference leader going into the season.
Speaker 2: I don't think there's there's any doubt about that. There's
Speaker 2: probably a pretty big gap between them and I guess
Speaker 2: Notre Dame by the time you get down to number two,
Speaker 2: and then I don't know who we would consider three.
Speaker 2: Maybe we can talk about that when we get the previews.
Speaker 1: Yeah, have the Miami defense, Litleville offense, North Carolina offense. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's contenders there.
Speaker 2: You know. I think a lot of this for Clemson
Speaker 2: depends on how they decide to slot these games. Are
Speaker 2: they going to be doing alternating home away? Are they
Speaker 2: going to be doing? Like what is that schedule from
Speaker 2: a date perspective going to look like? But I think
Speaker 2: they're in a pretty good spot here, provided these games
Speaker 2: on the road aren't all back to back to back,
Speaker 2: you know, they stand obviously be the front runner.
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, And I kind of think it's going
Speaker 1: to be such a different season in terms of how
Speaker 1: we evaluate back to back road games because there's just
Speaker 1: there's so much more calculus involved with how players are
Speaker 1: leading their lives, who is and isn't playing, what's going
Speaker 1: on with coaches, what's going on with travel, you know,
Speaker 1: lessened precautions in some states, you know, increased precautions and
Speaker 1: quarantines in some states if you're coming from other states.
Speaker 1: That the idea of and we've talked about this with
Speaker 1: you know, the back to back road and you having
Speaker 1: our three road games and row two road games in
Speaker 1: a row or sandwich games, all of that becomes more
Speaker 1: pronounced because it's all under an umbrella of uncertainty. By
Speaker 1: the way, you should watch Umbrella of Uncertainty on Netflix,
Speaker 1: premiering this Friday. But it's true, it's there. There's so
Speaker 1: much more like the trickiness to this season because of
Speaker 1: everything happening outside of it just come and this is
Speaker 1: not a take at all, but it exacerbates everything. So
Speaker 1: it'll be fascinating to see all of these schedules and
Speaker 1: bye weeks laid out because everything, I mean, this is
Speaker 1: the wrong conference to make this statement with. It just
Speaker 1: matters more.
Speaker 2: The big loser I think in all this, as we
Speaker 2: I guess bring this episode to its conclusion. Yeah, group
Speaker 2: of five teams, man, they.
Speaker 1: Are it's terrible.
Speaker 2: It's shitty as you look around college football, as you
Speaker 2: look at how some of these programs rely on the
Speaker 2: money that they would get from a school like in
Speaker 2: Ohio State or a Clemson to play these big non
Speaker 2: conference matchups. If that dries up, that's a huge deal,
Speaker 2: a huge deal for a lot of these programs. I
Speaker 2: hope we're not talking six twelve months from now about
Speaker 2: programs that had to fold for a year or permanently
Speaker 2: because of financial fallout for the twenty twenty season. I
Speaker 2: do think it's on the table though.
Speaker 1: The other thing thing about the G five conferences, a
Speaker 1: lot of them have consolidated. Obviously, the American was a
Speaker 1: patchwork of a couple different conferences. Conference USA has grown
Speaker 1: in size, the Mountain West has grown in size, and
Speaker 1: with that growth, they're trying to add interesting teams, add
Speaker 1: higher level teams, and that means a more pronounced geographic footprint.
Speaker 1: And if we're saying yeah, we should stay region regional
Speaker 1: and minimize travel time and travel cost these conferences, I mean,
Speaker 1: look at the American alone. Okay, so this is the
Speaker 1: I mean it's fair to say they're that's sixth best
Speaker 1: conference in football. If not higher, I suppose, But the
Speaker 1: fact is they have a team in the Dallas area,
Speaker 1: and SMU, a team in Philly, a team in Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: East Carolina a team, they have South Florida and Tampa.
Speaker 1: They're all over the place tie And so I don't
Speaker 1: know if these conferences in the way that the ACC
Speaker 1: are the way that we talked about a driveable conference
Speaker 1: where they just sort of turn into a pop up
Speaker 1: micro conference for the year, and we just have a
Speaker 1: sort of Northeast Dish division with like Temple and Cincinnati
Speaker 1: and Yukon, I maybe Memphis something like that, where we're
Speaker 1: just like, what do we what are we doing? Are
Speaker 1: we getting a five game G five situation? You have
Speaker 1: the Mountain West, you have Hawaii. Are team's gonna you know?
Speaker 2: Could they move it to spring?
Speaker 1: I think that becomes more possible. I think that because
Speaker 1: the resources are so much more limited at some of
Speaker 1: these places. That was the concern over spring, right, that
Speaker 1: like all hands are on deck. That this is what
Speaker 1: Richard Johnson was talking about on earlier in the week
Speaker 1: on our Wednesday show, where it's just like all hands
Speaker 1: are on deck for football, and if things are better
Speaker 1: for the spring to the point where like, let's roll
Speaker 1: out more sports, Let's run cross country and swim and whatever. Fence.
Speaker 1: I think certain teams have fencing teams that it's going
Speaker 1: to be too difficult in terms of logistics and employees
Speaker 1: with an athletic within an athletic department to run so
Speaker 1: many sports at once. So I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe you hope for just like a manic October in
Speaker 1: the G five part of the FBS, it's there, they're
Speaker 1: in such a bad financial and logistical bind at this point.
Speaker 1: Or do they just reorganize like the ACC where there's
Speaker 1: no more conferences, where it's just like all right, it's fiefdoms.
Speaker 1: It's once again we have fiefdoms where it's just like
Speaker 1: this crazy Sun Belt Conference USA, AAC MAC Mountain West,
Speaker 1: like they just all of a sudden, just like, all right,
Speaker 1: play somebody within four hours. Let's try to get in
Speaker 1: as many as we possibly can before it gets dark.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it does call into question a little
Speaker 2: bit about what Richard mentioned on the Wednesday show, this
Speaker 2: notion that maybe this could accelerate be some sort of
Speaker 2: catalyst for the Power five breaking away and starting its
Speaker 2: own deal. Now, I don't think that will happen, but
Speaker 2: I think maybe just for the course of one season,
Speaker 2: it kind of could, and we might bear witness to
Speaker 2: what that looks like.
Speaker 1: Catastrophic, Absolutely catastrophic, I can tell you right now.
Speaker 2: We shall see. Okay, well, interesting show here. My guess
Speaker 2: is that now with the SEC announcement, it sounds like
Speaker 2: rather imminent, we will have a lot to discuss on
Speaker 2: our show on Wednesday. But keep your eyes trained in
Speaker 2: on this movement around college football. It is a fluid situation. Again,
Speaker 2: A lot depends on where we're at as a country
Speaker 2: in terms of fighting this stupid virus two three, four
Speaker 2: weeks from now. Whether or not we could even attempt
Speaker 2: to do this season does sound like everyone's just about
Speaker 2: everyone outside Oklahoma in the Big twelve, I guess are
Speaker 2: looking to start a little bit later than initially planned,
Speaker 2: but certainly a lot more to come here as we
Speaker 2: plot ahead into what looks like a conference only fall season.
Speaker 1: Maybe everybody should start calling Lincoln Riley in the Oklahoma
Speaker 1: program and say, hey, so just saw you at one
Speaker 1: hundred tests with zero positives, Shoot me some tips and tricks?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Got some? Yeah? Got any cheat codes? You got any
Speaker 1: COVID game genies on hand that we can we can wrestle. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that'd be really nice. So good for Oklahoma for that.
Speaker 1: By the way, we keep seeing these pretty awful stories
Speaker 1: about positive tests and spreads and I something. You know,
Speaker 1: the Rutgers players. It's a it's a success and hopefully
Speaker 1: that's able to sustain A Norman.
Speaker 2: All right, well, Daniel, this has been fun. Please do
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Speaker 2: Other than the concern for player safety and Dan safety.
Speaker 1: Frankly, yes, thank you.
Speaker 2: Most folks chimeing in in support of what will be
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