WEBVTT - Notre Dame Joins the ACC?!

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<v Speaker 1>Could we do this? Could we figure out a place

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<v Speaker 1>They might.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, Yeah, actually I'll go. I'll go to a little

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<v Speaker 2>can find about a nice little midway point.

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<v Speaker 1>What's up, San Dusky.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we'll figure something out on the on the Google Maps. Hello,

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<v Speaker 2>off season for as long as that lasts. A little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of news on that front, which I'm excited to

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<v Speaker 2>discuss here on the program because as you know, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I am a newly minted fan of the ACC. Now

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<v Speaker 2>it's the best conference college football, in my honest opinion.

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<v Speaker 1>The true conference of champions the athletics. Wow, Atlantic Coast Conference.

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<v Speaker 2>You're right, not sure how all y'all feel, but I'm

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<v Speaker 2>very excited to be here to talk to you today

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<v Speaker 2>about all things ACC football. When we get into our

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<v Speaker 2>you know, on today's show, Dan, there there was a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of news that's been breaking over the last couple

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<v Speaker 2>of weeks, but we got a pretty big one, I

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<v Speaker 2>would say, yesterday. As it does relate to the ACC

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<v Speaker 2>and what their model looks like. It was pretty detailed.

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<v Speaker 2>They trotted that out there. So we're going to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about that, I think, for a period of time here

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<v Speaker 2>in addition to some of the other news in and

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<v Speaker 2>around the world of college football. We're getting to the

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<v Speaker 2>point now when folks listen to this, you know, it

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<v Speaker 2>may be the last day of July. For many others

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<v Speaker 2>it'll be the first day of August. The season in

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<v Speaker 2>whatever format that takes on, is getting awfully big in

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<v Speaker 2>the window. We're coming to the point now where you

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<v Speaker 2>and I have to hunker down. We have to start

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<v Speaker 2>thinking about, like, all right, how are we going to

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<v Speaker 2>preview this now that we have schedules, Now that we're

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<v Speaker 2>starting to see something of a trend line as it

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<v Speaker 2>relates to college football and scheduling in formats and just

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<v Speaker 2>what this whole dang thing looks like if and when

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<v Speaker 2>they decide to kick it off. So I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>how we're going to spend our time here this evening.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're cool with that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And if you're wondering, we wanted to start conference

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<v Speaker 1>and division previews in early July. We that is on

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<v Speaker 1>our schedule to do, and we really don't have clarity yet.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the ACC has helped a good amount, but

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<v Speaker 1>we're waiting on the SEC. Even though things tend to

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<v Speaker 1>be trending. It's according to what it was SI's Ross

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<v Speaker 1>Ellinger who I saw the report from that the SEC

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<v Speaker 1>is leading to either a ten game or a ten

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<v Speaker 1>plus one like the ACC conference schedule for the fall

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<v Speaker 1>of twenty twenty. Obviously, we've heard from the PAC twelve

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<v Speaker 1>and the Big Ten. It seems like the Big twelve

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<v Speaker 1>is full speed ahead in some fashion to try to

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<v Speaker 1>get to twelve. We'll see about that. Bob Bowlsby and

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<v Speaker 1>that conference. They're sort of waiting to see what they

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<v Speaker 1>can do. I've seen places like Texas originally said fifty

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<v Speaker 1>percent now it's down to twenty five percent capacity, So

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<v Speaker 1>that conference seems to be adjusting on the fly as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I would love to be doing I'd

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<v Speaker 1>love to be talking about Utah State, Boise State, I'd

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<v Speaker 1>love to be talking about cal And Minnesota and FIU,

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<v Speaker 1>But we don't know what any of these teams schedules

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<v Speaker 1>are looking like, so it's hard to preview them. So

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<v Speaker 1>when we have more clarity, please rest assured that the

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<v Speaker 1>content will become an atcha fast and I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 1>of angrily. Maybe furious. Does that work for you? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>to the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Shall we dive into news?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so ready.

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<v Speaker 2>Before we get to the breaking ACC Notre Dame news.

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<v Speaker 2>You love this.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the second at least chunky Notre Dame episode

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<v Speaker 1>in what a week? Week and a half.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, this is Campbell's chunky Notre Dame right here.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'm right.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's get to some of the other stuff and let's

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<v Speaker 2>circle back on the ACCA bit since that is the biggest,

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<v Speaker 2>So we talk about the ACC unveiling its model. The

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<v Speaker 2>sec per Ross Dellinger is reportedly moving closer to their

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<v Speaker 2>own version of a conference only model. The model was

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<v Speaker 2>supposedly agreed to in part by a majority of athletic

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<v Speaker 2>directors on a Wednesday virtual meeting. It looks like it's

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<v Speaker 2>an SEC only ten game schedule. Whatever it is has

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<v Speaker 2>to eventually be ratified by the league presidents. But Ross

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<v Speaker 2>was quick to point out that it's a fluid situation.

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<v Speaker 2>It's changing very quickly. My guess is that we know

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<v Speaker 2>where it's headed. It is certainly not official at this juncture.

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<v Speaker 2>It definitely could impact things like non conference schedules, especially

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<v Speaker 2>when we get to our acc bit and talk about

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<v Speaker 2>their model. So a very fluid situation, a lotch changing,

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<v Speaker 2>but it does sound like the SEC is moving in

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<v Speaker 2>a direction somewhat soon to rubber stamp what their model

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<v Speaker 2>looks like. Now that is significant because that would make

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<v Speaker 2>the Big twelve the loan holdout. As you said, Daniel,

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<v Speaker 2>we're hearing some news on the Big twelve front. The

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<v Speaker 2>latest thing that I heard was that news tidbit that

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<v Speaker 2>you mentioned about Texas looking at twenty five percent attendance

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<v Speaker 2>capacity for home football games in the fall, that is

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<v Speaker 2>per their interim university president. I quote to you an

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<v Speaker 2>article here from CBS Sports in a campus wide email,

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<v Speaker 2>Interim university President Jay Hartzel wrote that the university is

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<v Speaker 2>examining a twenty five percent capacity limit at Daryl K.

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<v Speaker 2>Royal Memorial Stadium for football games. Given that the capacity

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<v Speaker 2>is more than ninety five thousand seats, that would cap

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<v Speaker 2>capacity at just under what is this twenty four thousand fans.

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<v Speaker 2>You may recall back in June, the governor of Texas

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<v Speaker 2>issued a statewide mandate limiting capacity for all stadiums that

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<v Speaker 2>are hosting pro and collegiate games at fifty percent. So

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<v Speaker 2>Texas right now dealing with a lot of stuff as

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<v Speaker 2>it relates to COVID nineteen. They've been hit really hard.

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<v Speaker 2>Out of an abundance of caution. They're trying to take

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<v Speaker 2>extra measures here by cutting that fifty percent down to

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five percent. Again, a lot of this very fluid.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't even know what the Big twelve is going

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<v Speaker 2>to do at this point. Bob Bolsman might just play

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<v Speaker 2>all the games on his own right like he is.

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<v Speaker 2>He is the most determined man in the room to

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<v Speaker 2>get twelve games in. If there are fans and DKR,

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<v Speaker 2>it looks like it's going to be of the twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five percent variety.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Texas's negotiations with a global health crisis appear to

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<v Speaker 1>be ongoing. Fifty percent down to twenty five percent. Feel

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<v Speaker 1>like we're not going to get a news report that

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<v Speaker 1>Texas is up to seventy percent now in what they're

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<v Speaker 1>thinking for the DKR capacity. So negotiations are ongoing between

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<v Speaker 1>the forty acres and a deadly virus.

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<v Speaker 2>The other bit of Big twelve news. It sort of

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<v Speaker 2>took a back seat to all the COVID nineteen stuff

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<v Speaker 2>going around, but Bruce Felman reports that Lincoln Riley and

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<v Speaker 2>Oklahoma have a new six year contract that will run

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<v Speaker 2>through twenty twenty five. Obviously a good move for Oklahoma.

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<v Speaker 2>For as much as we have talked on this program

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<v Speaker 2>about new co which is especially ones that take over

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<v Speaker 2>for legends like Bob Stoops being basically a coin flip,

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<v Speaker 2>Lincoln Riley has not been a coin flip. I think

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's apparent he's gonna work out just fine.

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<v Speaker 2>Multiple Heisman Trophy winners, multiple Playoff appearances, clearly a move

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<v Speaker 2>that worked out for the better for Oklahoma. They were

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<v Speaker 2>wise to lock them up. Who knows how long that's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna last, right, there's always like NFL scuttle butt around

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<v Speaker 2>Lincoln Riley's name, but for the time being, they got

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<v Speaker 2>their man. They locked him down for a new six

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<v Speaker 2>year deal.

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<v Speaker 1>Buddy, you can be an air raid coach that gets

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<v Speaker 1>fired and still get an NFL job. That's how it works,

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<v Speaker 1>So you might as well sign an extension because if

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<v Speaker 1>you're good, great, If you're bad, still pretty good, still

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good to be Lincoln Riley. And I believe I

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<v Speaker 1>saw Alex Grinch, his defensive coordinator hired last year, he

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<v Speaker 1>got extended and he got a new deal. And I

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<v Speaker 1>know everybody's lasting memory of Oklahoma's defense was what happened

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<v Speaker 1>against LSU, especially in that first half. But if you

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<v Speaker 1>watched Oklahoma last year, there were definite steps in the

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<v Speaker 1>right direction. They happened to play maybe the greatest offense

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<v Speaker 1>of all time in a playoff game. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>it's fully fair, although we all saw it with our eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's not fully fair to judge the Alex Grinch

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<v Speaker 1>experience in Norman after a year, and not fully fair

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<v Speaker 1>to look at what Lincoln Riley has done in Norman

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<v Speaker 1>as a reflection of just that specific game. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>what we all saw last so I think it's a

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<v Speaker 1>no brainer decision to extend and give Lincoln Riley a raise,

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<v Speaker 1>and hopefully they can become a more complete team because

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<v Speaker 1>that would make Oklahoma more fun on the national level.

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<v Speaker 1>Looking forward to it for.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure as we shift gears now and steer into the

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<v Speaker 2>ACC news. One other tidbit that I am very curious

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<v Speaker 2>to see if it sets any kind of precedent. Virginia

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<v Speaker 2>Tech cornerback. You may have seen this, Caleb Farley. He

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<v Speaker 2>is opting out playing the season. He's going to prepare

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<v Speaker 2>for the NFL Draft. It's significant not just for Virginia Tech,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think as precedents go for college football. This

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<v Speaker 2>is a guy who's a projected first round pick. The

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<v Speaker 2>backstory here is that his mom died a breast cancer

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<v Speaker 2>two years ago. The quote from him is, I cannot

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<v Speaker 2>afford to lose another parent or loved one. Though the

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<v Speaker 2>competitor in me wants badly to play this season, I

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<v Speaker 2>cannot ignore what's going on in my heart. I must

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<v Speaker 2>make the decision that brings me the most piece. So look,

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<v Speaker 2>it's you can't fault the kid for making that decision.

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<v Speaker 2>He's got a bright future in front of him. Certainly

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<v Speaker 2>as it relates to that Virginia Tech secondary, it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be a bit of a hit. He's a premier,

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<v Speaker 2>elite caliber talent. But you know, not just in face

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<v Speaker 2>of this pandemic, but certainly with regard to college athletes

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<v Speaker 2>who don't get paid and have a lot on the line,

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<v Speaker 2>you got to make the decision that's best for you.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's clearly doing that here, so you wish him well.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And there are certain guys around the country who

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<v Speaker 1>it feels like they're pretty cemented into their draft stock,

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<v Speaker 1>especially at the top of the first round, be it

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Justin Fields or Trevor Lawrence or Pinay Seul,

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<v Speaker 1>guys like that. Travis etn should be a pretty high pick.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's you know, everybody else is a borderline guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody else basically is looking at the draft outside of

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<v Speaker 1>you know, your consensus eight twelve and even that. It's however,

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<v Speaker 1>long months and months ahead of the NFL Draft, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot can happen in terms of perception, but everybody else

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<v Speaker 1>is borderline. Everybody else needs to improve their stock. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's a tough decision because from as you said, at

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<v Speaker 1>human angle, these guys are thinking about family members and

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about possibly immunal compromise family members, and also considering

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps And I don't know if this is true or

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<v Speaker 1>not about Virginia Tech, but it's is the school I'm

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to return to handling everything? Well? Do I have

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<v Speaker 1>a good relationship with coaches? Do I believe that they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to continue handling everything? Well? How do I feel

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<v Speaker 1>about the locker room and culture there? So there's a

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<v Speaker 1>ton of factors. He will not be the last one

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<v Speaker 1>to make this decision. We've seen some NFL players do it.

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<v Speaker 1>And NFL players are getting paid even not playing, so

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<v Speaker 1>it is it is a consideration. Obviously, there have been

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<v Speaker 1>players in years past, and I'm sure it'll move forward

0:14:16.520 --> 0:14:19.440
<v Speaker 1>the same way that take out pretty hefty insurance policies

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<v Speaker 1>against their their draft situation and you know, injury and

0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:26.880
<v Speaker 1>or sickness whatever things out of their hands. So it'll

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<v Speaker 1>be fascinating to watch. But I think I am echoing

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<v Speaker 1>what you're thinking and saying that it's really difficult on

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<v Speaker 1>a on a human angle to blame any of these

0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:38.760
<v Speaker 1>guys if that's the consideration they're making about the others

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<v Speaker 1>in their lives.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, No, it's trust me it when it happens, it

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<v Speaker 2>shades your perspective on life. And for sure you know so.

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<v Speaker 2>I wish them well, I wish them well. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>blow for Virginia Tech, but I wish Caleb fairly well. Yeah, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>all that out of the way.

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<v Speaker 1>Long time ACC super fan Ty hilden Brand, let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>in about the best conference in college foot.

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<v Speaker 2>The Atlantic Coast Conference DAN. They are a set now

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<v Speaker 2>with their eleven game slate. It includes Notre Dame. The

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<v Speaker 2>board of directors voted on Wednesday to proceed with an

0:15:17.760 --> 0:15:22.800
<v Speaker 2>eleven game football season. It begins the weekend of September twelfth.

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<v Speaker 2>It includes FBS independent Notre Dame playing a full league schedule.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, this is all contingent on public health guidance

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<v Speaker 2>allowing it. But here's what we're looking at. All ACC

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<v Speaker 2>schools and Notre Dame are going to play ten conference

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<v Speaker 2>games plus one non conference game of their choosing. Notre

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<v Speaker 2>Dame will be eligible for the ACC championship game. There

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<v Speaker 2>will be no divisions.

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<v Speaker 1>Do we know who Notre Dame will choose?

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<v Speaker 2>Per what I'm seeing here from the ACC's guidance, it

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<v Speaker 2>has to be an in state school, so I guess

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<v Speaker 2>they've got some options in that regard, but it would

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<v Speaker 2>have to be a school in state in Indiana.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's not going to be Indiana Purdue. So what's

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<v Speaker 1>up ball State? How's life ball State?

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<v Speaker 2>We know from our previous show is looking for company.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I guess it could be an FCS school something

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<v Speaker 1>like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Notre Dame. And we're not going to harp too

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<v Speaker 2>much of Notre Dame, but Notre Dame really is the

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<v Speaker 2>interesting tidbit here. It does make the conference a fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>team conference for this season. This season only, they would

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<v Speaker 2>be eligible for the ACC slot in the Orange Bowl

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<v Speaker 2>if they're not selected as a playoff semi finalist, and

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<v Speaker 2>all television revenue for the twenty twenty season, including those

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<v Speaker 2>NBC broadcasts for Notre Dame home games, will be shared

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<v Speaker 2>equally by all fifteen institutions. I saw out on the

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<v Speaker 2>Athletic Pete Sampson did a really good job writing this

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<v Speaker 2>thing up talking about the predicament that Jack Swarbrick was in. Basically,

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<v Speaker 2>Swarbricks saw the writing on the wall and he knew

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<v Speaker 2>that you need to try and latch on here with

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<v Speaker 2>the ACC if you want to guarantee that you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to have something of a schedule by the time the

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<v Speaker 2>wheel stops spinning. Otherwise, if everyone goes conference only and

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<v Speaker 2>Notre Dame's left out in the cold, like, that's just

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<v Speaker 2>not that's not feasible for them. So he knew going

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<v Speaker 2>into these negotiations that he was going to have to

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<v Speaker 2>give up that NBC money, and I give him credit

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<v Speaker 2>for doing so, for pulling the trigger. Now, Notre Dame

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<v Speaker 2>already had six ACC League games as part of their

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty schedule, including Clemson. That game that we've talked

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<v Speaker 2>about throughout the course of the preseason.

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<v Speaker 1>Still happening still in South Bend, South.

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<v Speaker 2>Bend, YEP. They are now adding Florida State, Boston College, Pittsburgh,

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<v Speaker 2>and North Carolina to their schedule.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let's start with Notre Dame first and foremost. Getting

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<v Speaker 1>Notre Dame Florida State is fantastic because you're getting what

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<v Speaker 1>a redo of the pick play game from I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even know when that was, twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen, fifteen,

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere in there. You're getting a redo of that. A

0:18:07.240 --> 0:18:11.080
<v Speaker 1>nice rematch, just two traditional I guess in the modern sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Powers I like the fact that Notre Dame's playing PITT.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that matchup. I like that that's a matchup

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<v Speaker 1>that exists. It just feels like they are college football cousins, right, yeah, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>it like. I don't think that game needs to be

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<v Speaker 1>played every year, but I like that kind of matchup.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that Clemson Notre Dame is staying in South

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<v Speaker 1>Bend because that was a game I think everybody had

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<v Speaker 1>circled as one of the big big games coming into

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<v Speaker 1>the season, no matter what the season looks like. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's a relief. How does it make you feel, as

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<v Speaker 1>somebody used to, I guess this hybrid schedule of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>keeping Michigan and USC or Stanford, but also playing ACC

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<v Speaker 1>games and sort of having the Notre Dame hand and

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<v Speaker 1>two different cookie jars.

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<v Speaker 2>I like things that are different, and this is very

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<v Speaker 2>different for Notre game.

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<v Speaker 1>You've been talking about a quirk for a while.

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<v Speaker 2>This is not quite the flex scheduling that I think

0:19:01.520 --> 0:19:04.680
<v Speaker 2>we discussed on one of our previous episodes, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>close enough. They're changing this on the fly weeks before

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<v Speaker 2>the season is set to begin, and I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>feasible provided that health guidance will allow it. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it makes sense. It definitely keeps teams a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>more self contained within these conferences, and I like it.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I am curious to see if this

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<v Speaker 2>pushes Notre Dame in more of a conference direction after

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty. I think that's my biggest curiosity. I'm curious

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<v Speaker 2>to see what kind of doors it opens for them.

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<v Speaker 2>They may find that being in a conference gets them

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<v Speaker 2>things that they couldn't get from the outside. They're like

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<v Speaker 2>the second best team in the conference now behind Clemson, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably, Yeah, there's no obvious choice. North Carolina's interesting. North

0:19:52.920 --> 0:19:56.080
<v Speaker 1>Carolina has the second or I guess depending because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just such a disgusting Michael Cunningham fan at this point,

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<v Speaker 1>But on how you feel about Michael Coneyham. To have

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<v Speaker 1>Sam Howell at UNC, that's an interesting case, especially with

0:20:04.800 --> 0:20:06.639
<v Speaker 1>how they finished last year. But yeah, I think in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of a complete team, Notre Dame is closer than

0:20:09.160 --> 0:20:12.199
<v Speaker 1>North Carolina at this point. The thing that's interesting to me,

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<v Speaker 1>and not just about the ACC and not just about

0:20:14.119 --> 0:20:17.240
<v Speaker 1>Notre Dame. But I guess, especially with Notre Dame, is

0:20:17.280 --> 0:20:21.720
<v Speaker 1>we're always in search of rivalries. We've been denied rivalries.

0:20:21.720 --> 0:20:25.040
<v Speaker 1>You know, the backyard brawl disappears, the border war disappears.

0:20:25.080 --> 0:20:27.760
<v Speaker 1>With all these things that made you know, Texas, Texas

0:20:27.760 --> 0:20:30.880
<v Speaker 1>A and M that disappears. So the fact is, if

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<v Speaker 1>we get more conference games in the PAC twelve, the SEC,

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<v Speaker 1>the ACC, whatever, the Big Ten. If we get more

0:20:38.720 --> 0:20:42.280
<v Speaker 1>conference games, that ups the percentage the likelihood of all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden Notre Dame and Pit. That's the example

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<v Speaker 1>I used earlier. What if that game's super weird. What

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<v Speaker 1>if that's a fifty two to fifty one shootout and

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<v Speaker 1>there's bad blood. It's like in Texas A and m

0:20:51.760 --> 0:20:53.679
<v Speaker 1>LSU from a couple of years ago, that goes you know,

0:20:54.000 --> 0:20:56.240
<v Speaker 1>it has a weird ending and there's emotions all of

0:20:56.280 --> 0:20:58.240
<v Speaker 1>a sudden. We want to see more Notre Dame Pit.

0:20:58.480 --> 0:20:59.960
<v Speaker 1>All of a sudden, we want to see more Notre

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<v Speaker 1>Dame North Carolina. If there's you know something, you know,

0:21:02.840 --> 0:21:05.480
<v Speaker 1>Brian Kelly and Mac Brown fight at midfield, like Jim

0:21:05.520 --> 0:21:09.000
<v Speaker 1>Harbaugh and Pete Carroll all those years back, it ups

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<v Speaker 1>the potential, especially with having a big program like Notre

0:21:11.800 --> 0:21:16.000
<v Speaker 1>Dame involved, that we're creating new memories tie and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>for that that's always it's interesting to me new tradition

0:21:19.800 --> 0:21:24.200
<v Speaker 1>Bill Hancock style, Yeah, but on the field and actually

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<v Speaker 1>real to me. So I'm totally you know, we had

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<v Speaker 1>that close nail bier last year with what it was

0:21:30.480 --> 0:21:32.639
<v Speaker 1>A and M. Georgia to get more of A and M.

0:21:32.680 --> 0:21:36.400
<v Speaker 1>Georgia with you know, big personalities at head coach and recruiting,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, both teams recruiting in top five ish ways.

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<v Speaker 1>I think those kinds of new annual rivalries, annual matchups,

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<v Speaker 1>I think is nothing but great, especially in the region

0:21:48.160 --> 0:21:51.359
<v Speaker 1>for the sport, because absolutely there are you know, if

0:21:51.400 --> 0:21:53.760
<v Speaker 1>Notre Dame's playing Boston College every year, absolutely there are

0:21:53.800 --> 0:21:57.000
<v Speaker 1>families with Notre Dame in Boston College, brothers and sisters

0:21:57.080 --> 0:22:00.520
<v Speaker 1>or Pitt brothers. You know that exists in specific regions.

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<v Speaker 1>So more of that is a win. And we already

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<v Speaker 1>see it with the SEC and ACC. Be it with Clemson,

0:22:05.840 --> 0:22:08.840
<v Speaker 1>South Carolina, Georgia, Georgia Tech. Where you can still have

0:22:08.920 --> 0:22:13.080
<v Speaker 1>Notre Dame scheduling say USC or Michigan in the four

0:22:13.320 --> 0:22:15.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, in a couple of the four non conference

0:22:15.320 --> 0:22:18.439
<v Speaker 1>parts of their schedule. But do we really need to

0:22:18.480 --> 0:22:22.159
<v Speaker 1>see more of Notre Dame against American Conference teams or

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<v Speaker 1>MAC teams or you know, does Notre Dame Stanford have

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<v Speaker 1>to be something that carries on forever and ever and ever.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I'm good with the Irish evolving.

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<v Speaker 2>That's may though, Well, this is definitely different. The other

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<v Speaker 2>thing that's different from an ACC standpoint is there's no division.

0:22:37.720 --> 0:22:41.200
<v Speaker 2>The way that they're gonna determine who wins the conference.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to be based on the conference game winning percentage.

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<v Speaker 1>The top two the marriage.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, top two teams are going to play in Charlotte

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<v Speaker 2>either December the twelfth or nineteenth, depending on again how

0:22:53.080 --> 0:22:57.359
<v Speaker 2>things go, and that will be your your conference championship game.

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<v Speaker 2>The thing that comes to mind from me about all

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<v Speaker 2>this this I don't know momentum we're seeing around conference

0:23:04.640 --> 0:23:09.000
<v Speaker 2>only games. There's no connective tissue. You don't have these

0:23:09.040 --> 0:23:11.919
<v Speaker 2>non conference games, these similarities that you can use as

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<v Speaker 2>a frame of reference.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you mean though, what do you mean by that?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, if the SEC plays ten conference only games and

0:23:21.040 --> 0:23:24.399
<v Speaker 2>the Big ten plays ten conference only games, the ACC

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<v Speaker 2>pretty much plays ten conference only games. Yeah, throw in

0:23:28.720 --> 0:23:31.240
<v Speaker 2>that one odd ball. I'm assuming the Big twelve is

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<v Speaker 2>going to have to follow suit. The PAC twelves already announced, Well.

0:23:34.440 --> 0:23:37.040
<v Speaker 1>The ACC I don't think is going to go plus one.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they'll erase that plus one if the SEC

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<v Speaker 1>saying we're going ten only, I don't. I think a

0:23:42.600 --> 0:23:45.160
<v Speaker 1>lot of that was to keep some of those ACC

0:23:45.280 --> 0:23:46.280
<v Speaker 1>SEC rivalries.

0:23:46.840 --> 0:23:50.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that's that's my hunch. But the SEC per

0:23:50.520 --> 0:23:54.880
<v Speaker 2>reports is leaning towards ten games right conference only. So

0:23:55.320 --> 0:23:57.680
<v Speaker 2>my point is, if you don't have that non conference

0:23:57.720 --> 0:24:01.040
<v Speaker 2>connective tissue, those frames of reference, you really have no

0:24:01.160 --> 0:24:05.040
<v Speaker 2>mathematical way to compare teams against one another. And that

0:24:05.160 --> 0:24:10.040
<v Speaker 2>really really steers into what I think makes college football

0:24:10.640 --> 0:24:14.000
<v Speaker 2>our favorite sport. We're gonna have so much argument over

0:24:14.040 --> 0:24:16.520
<v Speaker 2>who the best teams are. We're gonna have no real

0:24:16.640 --> 0:24:21.359
<v Speaker 2>means of comparison other than the eye test, and at

0:24:21.440 --> 0:24:25.240
<v Speaker 2>least for one season, that makes what we do very interesting.

0:24:25.640 --> 0:24:29.080
<v Speaker 2>Hopefully that piques interest for the full ten games slate

0:24:29.160 --> 0:24:32.360
<v Speaker 2>the full way through, there will be so much argument

0:24:32.480 --> 0:24:35.119
<v Speaker 2>over which teams are the best, which team should go

0:24:35.160 --> 0:24:38.600
<v Speaker 2>to a playoff, assuming we can even conduct one, that

0:24:39.200 --> 0:24:41.760
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't even matter who's playing whom. Here in the ACC,

0:24:42.440 --> 0:24:45.640
<v Speaker 2>these little pods that we are forming now to try

0:24:45.680 --> 0:24:49.919
<v Speaker 2>and stage a season. That might be the quirk that

0:24:50.080 --> 0:24:53.600
<v Speaker 2>I think I've been referencing this whole long off season

0:24:53.600 --> 0:24:54.320
<v Speaker 2>of uncertainty.

0:24:54.800 --> 0:24:57.119
<v Speaker 1>I kind of go the other way. I kind of

0:24:57.119 --> 0:25:00.480
<v Speaker 1>go the fact that this is trending more towards bangers

0:25:00.520 --> 0:25:04.919
<v Speaker 1>only that will actually know more about teams. So okay,

0:25:04.960 --> 0:25:08.440
<v Speaker 1>So if Sam Howell lights up Auburn in this now

0:25:08.480 --> 0:25:11.800
<v Speaker 1>alternate universe early on in the season for North Carolina

0:25:12.400 --> 0:25:16.000
<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean Auburn's bad. It doesn't mean Auburn's bad. It

0:25:16.000 --> 0:25:19.160
<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean whatever Auburn showed itself to be against North

0:25:19.160 --> 0:25:21.600
<v Speaker 1>Carolina is who Auburn would end up week eight nine

0:25:21.600 --> 0:25:25.840
<v Speaker 1>when we're comparing Auburn to everybody else. But we don't

0:25:25.880 --> 0:25:28.960
<v Speaker 1>have schedules that are inflated by lower opponents, by some

0:25:29.000 --> 0:25:31.399
<v Speaker 1>teams playing crazy tough road games as part of their

0:25:31.440 --> 0:25:33.719
<v Speaker 1>non conference, some teams playing neutral site games in an

0:25:33.800 --> 0:25:38.720
<v Speaker 1>NFL stadium, some teams playing three lower you know, if

0:25:38.760 --> 0:25:41.760
<v Speaker 1>it's FCS or G five whatever, and not really scheduling

0:25:41.800 --> 0:25:46.000
<v Speaker 1>a Power five opponent. The fact is, while it definitely

0:25:46.000 --> 0:25:48.719
<v Speaker 1>sucks for the sport that G five teams are not

0:25:48.840 --> 0:25:52.840
<v Speaker 1>receiving payouts to help fund other athletics. I feel like

0:25:53.240 --> 0:25:58.359
<v Speaker 1>the fact is Florida State's playing ten ACC teams that

0:25:59.040 --> 0:26:03.640
<v Speaker 1>are likely within a similar space in terms of recruiting

0:26:03.680 --> 0:26:06.560
<v Speaker 1>and spending money. And you know, obviously teams recruit differently,

0:26:06.600 --> 0:26:09.880
<v Speaker 1>but how seriously they take football. So what we can

0:26:09.920 --> 0:26:13.800
<v Speaker 1>know about Georgia Tech after five weeks or NC State

0:26:13.840 --> 0:26:17.080
<v Speaker 1>after five weeks? I think it gives us better data

0:26:17.640 --> 0:26:20.680
<v Speaker 1>than having And I know Georgia Tech act was scheduled

0:26:20.680 --> 0:26:24.040
<v Speaker 1>to play Clemson early on, but if they're playing William

0:26:24.080 --> 0:26:27.359
<v Speaker 1>and Mary, if they're playing Bowling Green, I think that

0:26:27.560 --> 0:26:30.320
<v Speaker 1>skews things a little bit. Whereas now we know, okay,

0:26:30.359 --> 0:26:34.399
<v Speaker 1>we know what Miami looks like against similar competition, and

0:26:34.440 --> 0:26:38.240
<v Speaker 1>we can compare that against cal or TCU.

0:26:38.680 --> 0:26:41.240
<v Speaker 2>But there's no mathematical way to do it. What does

0:26:41.280 --> 0:26:44.320
<v Speaker 2>this do to poor Jerry Palm or our friend Bill Connolly,

0:26:44.680 --> 0:26:47.240
<v Speaker 2>right like, yeah, so much of the way that these

0:26:47.280 --> 0:26:50.280
<v Speaker 2>metrics work, things that we rely upon to give us

0:26:50.320 --> 0:26:53.120
<v Speaker 2>some sense of who's good and who isn't, that kind

0:26:53.119 --> 0:26:54.919
<v Speaker 2>of goes out the window because you won't have that

0:26:54.960 --> 0:26:58.520
<v Speaker 2>connective tissue. And by the way, just through the course

0:26:58.560 --> 0:27:01.000
<v Speaker 2>of this very discussion, not going to play the Sound

0:27:02.000 --> 0:27:05.800
<v Speaker 2>sources have confirmed to ESPN the SEC is going to

0:27:05.880 --> 0:27:10.800
<v Speaker 2>start its season on September the twenty sixth, conference only games,

0:27:10.840 --> 0:27:13.920
<v Speaker 2>ten of them. Okay, they're going to run through December

0:27:13.960 --> 0:27:18.080
<v Speaker 2>the nineteenth, So again, playing within themselves. It'll make things

0:27:18.160 --> 0:27:20.280
<v Speaker 2>very interesting in the SEC.

0:27:20.480 --> 0:27:25.480
<v Speaker 1>You said conference only confirming okay, six conference only Okay.

0:27:25.200 --> 0:27:28.240
<v Speaker 2>There's not going to be that crossover component here to

0:27:28.280 --> 0:27:31.480
<v Speaker 2>the schedule, and it really is a bunch of little

0:27:31.520 --> 0:27:34.880
<v Speaker 2>fiefdoms playing within themselves. Poor old Barry Alvarez or someone

0:27:34.920 --> 0:27:36.359
<v Speaker 2>like Barry Alvarez is going to have to sit in

0:27:36.400 --> 0:27:38.240
<v Speaker 2>a room with twelve other people and figure it out.

0:27:39.280 --> 0:27:42.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't think we're getting a playoff, don't I don't

0:27:42.640 --> 0:27:44.200
<v Speaker 1>think we're going to get a playoff. I think we're

0:27:44.200 --> 0:27:48.280
<v Speaker 1>going to have champions themselves champions. Well, I think maybe

0:27:48.280 --> 0:27:50.600
<v Speaker 1>we'll have conference champions and then we'll have arguments. And

0:27:50.600 --> 0:27:54.000
<v Speaker 1>that's fine because and we've talked about this before, and

0:27:54.040 --> 0:27:55.840
<v Speaker 1>this was the point I like to make about the

0:27:55.880 --> 0:28:00.400
<v Speaker 1>playoff that this year, especially college football is a TV show.

0:28:01.280 --> 0:28:02.919
<v Speaker 1>You're looking at it through a lens of how do

0:28:02.960 --> 0:28:05.119
<v Speaker 1>you compare teams when deciding who gets to go to

0:28:05.119 --> 0:28:06.560
<v Speaker 1>the Rose Bawl, Who gets a New Year six game?

0:28:06.560 --> 0:28:09.159
<v Speaker 1>Who gets a college football playoff? Berth, This is a

0:28:09.200 --> 0:28:12.240
<v Speaker 1>TV show this year. College football is existing merely to

0:28:12.359 --> 0:28:13.560
<v Speaker 1>exist this fall.

0:28:13.800 --> 0:28:17.639
<v Speaker 2>It is so European soccer without the Champions League, right.

0:28:17.600 --> 0:28:20.639
<v Speaker 1>Exactly we can come up with we can You know,

0:28:20.720 --> 0:28:23.840
<v Speaker 1>everybody's going to be simming all sorts of playoffs at

0:28:23.840 --> 0:28:25.119
<v Speaker 1>the end of the year if we don't have an

0:28:25.160 --> 0:28:29.760
<v Speaker 1>actual postseason, which is fine because I while I don't

0:28:29.760 --> 0:28:32.640
<v Speaker 1>love discussion for the sake of discussion, I'd rather see

0:28:32.680 --> 0:28:36.440
<v Speaker 1>things settled on the field in some fashion. I don't

0:28:36.440 --> 0:28:38.400
<v Speaker 1>think that's the point of this season. I don't think

0:28:38.520 --> 0:28:41.400
<v Speaker 1>if if we're pushing back to September twenty sixth, if

0:28:41.400 --> 0:28:45.160
<v Speaker 1>we're saying conference only schedule, you know, teams going from

0:28:45.160 --> 0:28:48.400
<v Speaker 1>eight conference games and some conferences to ten, nine to

0:28:48.480 --> 0:28:53.600
<v Speaker 1>ten whatever, the competitive reasons for the twenty twenty season

0:28:53.760 --> 0:28:58.640
<v Speaker 1>exists less the just put and pen to paper existing

0:28:59.120 --> 0:29:02.000
<v Speaker 1>exists a whole lot more So, I don't I don't

0:29:02.040 --> 0:29:04.240
<v Speaker 1>shed too many tiers for Bill c and Jerry Palm,

0:29:04.240 --> 0:29:06.400
<v Speaker 1>who I both. I love both of them dearly, but

0:29:07.320 --> 0:29:10.200
<v Speaker 1>I think the point is just simply they're just it's

0:29:10.240 --> 0:29:13.320
<v Speaker 1>sort of corralled exhibitions at this point, which is fine

0:29:13.320 --> 0:29:15.680
<v Speaker 1>because I'm going to watch all of them enthusiastically and

0:29:15.720 --> 0:29:17.360
<v Speaker 1>hope that everybody's happy and healthy.

0:29:18.680 --> 0:29:21.840
<v Speaker 2>Who are your winners and losers here? I think I

0:29:21.840 --> 0:29:24.240
<v Speaker 2>think big winner has to be ACC network. Yeah.

0:29:24.240 --> 0:29:28.360
<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen the TV schedule, but in terms of ratings, yeah,

0:29:28.800 --> 0:29:30.520
<v Speaker 1>they're going to do. Everybody's going to be at home

0:29:30.640 --> 0:29:33.760
<v Speaker 1>pretty much. You know, we'll have some stadiums with limited capacity.

0:29:33.800 --> 0:29:36.560
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, TV is a huge winner here. TV is

0:29:36.600 --> 0:29:41.320
<v Speaker 1>a huge winner because of that quirk in ESPN plus. Yeah,

0:29:41.360 --> 0:29:44.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, any station that can carry a game I

0:29:44.080 --> 0:29:47.280
<v Speaker 1>think is a winner. I think, you know, I don't

0:29:47.280 --> 0:29:47.920
<v Speaker 1>have to tell you.

0:29:47.960 --> 0:29:49.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't have to tell the people that listen to

0:29:49.480 --> 0:29:51.760
<v Speaker 2>this show, most of whom have been cooped up for

0:29:51.840 --> 0:29:55.680
<v Speaker 2>many months now, that sports on TV is a big deal.

0:29:56.040 --> 0:29:59.360
<v Speaker 2>It's we're not getting back to normal maybe anytime soon,

0:29:59.360 --> 0:30:02.040
<v Speaker 2>but it'll at least give us that sense of normalcy

0:30:02.240 --> 0:30:03.800
<v Speaker 2>to see some of the sports that we love on

0:30:03.880 --> 0:30:07.720
<v Speaker 2>TV again. Caveat if they can pull it all off

0:30:07.760 --> 0:30:09.320
<v Speaker 2>and if health allows for it.

0:30:09.360 --> 0:30:14.560
<v Speaker 1>Every local mattress company advertising during the games, big winner.

0:30:14.480 --> 0:30:17.840
<v Speaker 2>Huge winner. Yeah, in terms of winners and losers. I'll

0:30:17.840 --> 0:30:21.680
<v Speaker 2>stay with Notre Dame for just one second. Okay, I

0:30:21.680 --> 0:30:23.479
<v Speaker 2>think this is a win for them. I think it

0:30:23.520 --> 0:30:25.840
<v Speaker 2>was a way for them to lock up at least

0:30:26.000 --> 0:30:29.760
<v Speaker 2>ten games. I think Jack Swarbrick had to make the move.

0:30:29.800 --> 0:30:32.160
<v Speaker 2>I think he did the right thing. I don't think

0:30:32.240 --> 0:30:34.240
<v Speaker 2>there will be much of a much of a negative,

0:30:34.360 --> 0:30:35.720
<v Speaker 2>much of a drawback for them.

0:30:35.960 --> 0:30:38.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean, they're doing it with their other sports already.

0:30:38.280 --> 0:30:40.160
<v Speaker 1>Notre Dame is an ACC team. It makes a ton

0:30:40.200 --> 0:30:43.040
<v Speaker 1>of sense. Yeah, it makes it. What's a basketball coach's name,

0:30:43.200 --> 0:30:46.360
<v Speaker 1>Big Slick, tair Bray, Mike Bray. He's been doing it forever.

0:30:46.800 --> 0:30:48.800
<v Speaker 2>He's been doing it forever. So they, like I told

0:30:48.800 --> 0:30:51.360
<v Speaker 2>you earlier, they got the friends referral code here to

0:30:51.400 --> 0:30:54.960
<v Speaker 2>get in for one year only to the ACC, now

0:30:54.960 --> 0:30:58.000
<v Speaker 2>a fifteen team super conference. We'll see where it goes.

0:30:58.160 --> 0:30:59.400
<v Speaker 1>So are you good with it? Do you want it

0:30:59.400 --> 0:31:01.720
<v Speaker 1>to be long term? As a Notre Dame person.

0:31:02.560 --> 0:31:04.840
<v Speaker 2>I have always wanted them to join a conference.

0:31:05.360 --> 0:31:09.720
<v Speaker 1>Okay, you've been skeptical of them actually making that decision,

0:31:10.160 --> 0:31:12.800
<v Speaker 1>but you've been pro be it Big ten, ACC, Big

0:31:12.840 --> 0:31:13.200
<v Speaker 1>twelve one.

0:31:13.280 --> 0:31:15.880
<v Speaker 2>I've been pro Big ten for a long time, okay,

0:31:16.240 --> 0:31:17.920
<v Speaker 2>and I would be pro ACC if it was a

0:31:17.920 --> 0:31:18.920
<v Speaker 2>move they decided to make.

0:31:19.040 --> 0:31:23.040
<v Speaker 1>What's interesting about this, though, tie is whenever it is,

0:31:23.200 --> 0:31:26.080
<v Speaker 1>we push forward to a new normal, because we're not

0:31:26.120 --> 0:31:28.320
<v Speaker 1>going back. We're never going back. Life moves forward. There's

0:31:28.320 --> 0:31:30.440
<v Speaker 1>going to be some sort of new normal once things

0:31:30.520 --> 0:31:35.600
<v Speaker 1>are hopefully better. What's interesting is there seems to have

0:31:35.640 --> 0:31:39.720
<v Speaker 1>been conversations about what are conferences really doing for these

0:31:39.720 --> 0:31:45.360
<v Speaker 1>major major programs beyond limiting their television earning potential. So

0:31:46.640 --> 0:31:50.000
<v Speaker 1>if it's USC or Oregon, if it's Texas or Oklahoma,

0:31:50.040 --> 0:31:53.840
<v Speaker 1>if it's Miami, Florida, state, whatever, in the ACC, a

0:31:53.840 --> 0:31:56.840
<v Speaker 1>lot of these programs could probably earn more money at

0:31:56.840 --> 0:32:00.400
<v Speaker 1>this point signing TV deals a la Notre Dame signing

0:32:00.440 --> 0:32:03.080
<v Speaker 1>a deal with ESPN. Obviously, we have conference networks already,

0:32:03.600 --> 0:32:08.840
<v Speaker 1>but as the NCAA and these conferences aren't needed as

0:32:08.920 --> 0:32:11.040
<v Speaker 1>much as they used to be, they're bow tie ins,

0:32:11.040 --> 0:32:14.040
<v Speaker 1>they're TV deals. It's interesting that we're having this conversation

0:32:14.040 --> 0:32:17.480
<v Speaker 1>about Notre Dame going a conference route when we could

0:32:17.480 --> 0:32:21.680
<v Speaker 1>be seeing more Notre Dames as TV deals expire and

0:32:22.080 --> 0:32:24.560
<v Speaker 1>places are saying, well, I mean we could, we could

0:32:24.600 --> 0:32:26.880
<v Speaker 1>do this all a cart and make some more cash,

0:32:27.000 --> 0:32:29.840
<v Speaker 1>just saying yep, Alabama football just signed a deal with

0:32:29.920 --> 0:32:32.080
<v Speaker 1>CBS and they're going to make one hundred million dollars

0:32:32.120 --> 0:32:35.120
<v Speaker 1>a year. It's wild. It's wild to think about the

0:32:35.160 --> 0:32:38.120
<v Speaker 1>next five to seven years, however long it's going to

0:32:38.200 --> 0:32:42.120
<v Speaker 1>take for for everything to return or to progress to

0:32:42.200 --> 0:32:42.880
<v Speaker 1>that new normal.

0:32:43.440 --> 0:32:47.160
<v Speaker 2>I think Notre Dame. I think conference networks. I think

0:32:47.200 --> 0:32:49.560
<v Speaker 2>any TV network that can carry football is a big

0:32:49.600 --> 0:32:52.840
<v Speaker 2>winner because there will be quirks here. There will be

0:32:53.440 --> 0:32:56.840
<v Speaker 2>some asymmetry to when seasons start and when they finish,

0:32:56.920 --> 0:33:00.560
<v Speaker 2>and who's playing who's not playing. I think, I think

0:33:00.600 --> 0:33:04.040
<v Speaker 2>from a fans perspective, it will stay interesting much much

0:33:04.080 --> 0:33:06.200
<v Speaker 2>deeper into the season than we are accustomed to.

0:33:07.040 --> 0:33:09.320
<v Speaker 1>Not a sponsor, but I'm I've been very happy with

0:33:09.360 --> 0:33:12.440
<v Speaker 1>my Roku. So if you are suddenly meeting some sort

0:33:12.480 --> 0:33:15.920
<v Speaker 1>of OTT device to watch more of your team's games

0:33:16.000 --> 0:33:19.840
<v Speaker 1>because everything is conference only all of the sudden, I've

0:33:19.880 --> 0:33:21.960
<v Speaker 1>been happy with the Roku. Do you use anything to

0:33:22.040 --> 0:33:23.560
<v Speaker 1>stream PlayStation.

0:33:23.240 --> 0:33:26.040
<v Speaker 2>Or I use the Roku? Yeah? The KU's great.

0:33:26.280 --> 0:33:29.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Okay, send us some stuff Roku. How about that?

0:33:29.720 --> 0:33:32.920
<v Speaker 2>The big loser here? It may only be one. It's

0:33:32.920 --> 0:33:35.160
<v Speaker 2>got to be Syracuse in their way schedule, right.

0:33:35.680 --> 0:33:38.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Oh, Bunny.

0:33:38.600 --> 0:33:42.760
<v Speaker 2>Have you seen this thing? Yeah, I don't know. I

0:33:42.800 --> 0:33:45.320
<v Speaker 2>haven't seen dates on this yet. I don't think they've

0:33:45.960 --> 0:33:51.280
<v Speaker 2>they've given us that yet. But in this new format,

0:33:51.720 --> 0:33:56.600
<v Speaker 2>Syracuse has away games against Clemson, Louisville, North Carolina, Notre

0:33:56.680 --> 0:33:57.360
<v Speaker 2>Dame in Pitt.

0:33:57.840 --> 0:33:58.640
<v Speaker 1>It's tough sliding.

0:33:58.800 --> 0:34:00.200
<v Speaker 2>That's pretty tough right there.

0:34:00.280 --> 0:34:03.440
<v Speaker 1>And home games are fine. It's such a crazy home

0:34:03.520 --> 0:34:06.120
<v Speaker 1>road split. And I don't know if it's because they

0:34:06.280 --> 0:34:08.319
<v Speaker 1>just value because the part of the thinking with the

0:34:08.320 --> 0:34:10.759
<v Speaker 1>scheduling is we want to make this more regional. We

0:34:10.800 --> 0:34:13.200
<v Speaker 1>want to cut down on travel time and expenses whatever,

0:34:13.719 --> 0:34:16.719
<v Speaker 1>and do everything to sort of minimize whatever it is

0:34:16.719 --> 0:34:19.479
<v Speaker 1>that travel is going to look like this fall. And

0:34:20.160 --> 0:34:23.400
<v Speaker 1>the fact is, not only does Syracuse get all of

0:34:23.440 --> 0:34:26.760
<v Speaker 1>their tough games basically on the road. They're going to Louisville,

0:34:26.760 --> 0:34:29.000
<v Speaker 1>they're going to North Carolina, they're going down to Clemson.

0:34:29.120 --> 0:34:31.319
<v Speaker 1>Is there not? I mean Syracuse was never close to

0:34:31.400 --> 0:34:33.879
<v Speaker 1>a lot of plays outside of Pitt Boston College, I guess,

0:34:33.920 --> 0:34:37.720
<v Speaker 1>relatively speaking. But they're not only traveling far and wide,

0:34:38.400 --> 0:34:41.320
<v Speaker 1>they're playing outside of I guess Florida State and Miami

0:34:41.920 --> 0:34:44.320
<v Speaker 1>heavy hitters within the conference, big loss.

0:34:44.680 --> 0:34:51.240
<v Speaker 2>I feel pretty much the same about Virginia's road schedule.

0:34:51.880 --> 0:34:52.640
<v Speaker 1>Yes, so do I.

0:34:54.080 --> 0:35:00.480
<v Speaker 2>Clemson, Florida State, Miami, Virginia Tech and then Wake. Those

0:35:00.520 --> 0:35:04.879
<v Speaker 2>are four pretty tough places to play, right there. Sure.

0:35:05.200 --> 0:35:08.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean when we say tough places, we mean in

0:35:08.640 --> 0:35:10.759
<v Speaker 1>a normal year, like Lane Stadium is not going to

0:35:10.800 --> 0:35:14.640
<v Speaker 1>be tough this year. True, Virginia Tech could be, but

0:35:14.760 --> 0:35:18.080
<v Speaker 1>Lane Stadium's knocking, it's going to be very echo we

0:35:18.280 --> 0:35:20.400
<v Speaker 1>enter sam Man if that is still a thing in

0:35:20.480 --> 0:35:24.800
<v Speaker 1>Lane Stadium. So you're right. And I actually think Syracuse's

0:35:25.560 --> 0:35:29.040
<v Speaker 1>home field advantage in some ways could be more pronounced

0:35:29.040 --> 0:35:32.360
<v Speaker 1>in the Carrier Dome like a big, hollow, haunted arena.

0:35:33.239 --> 0:35:36.160
<v Speaker 1>But they don't. They don't have any of those real

0:35:36.200 --> 0:35:37.080
<v Speaker 1>tough games at home.

0:35:39.040 --> 0:35:40.279
<v Speaker 2>Who else jumps out at you here?

0:35:41.400 --> 0:35:48.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? You mentioned Virginia North Carolina In terms of ideal situations,

0:35:49.200 --> 0:35:51.120
<v Speaker 1>Louisville and Duke are also in a good place. So

0:35:51.200 --> 0:35:53.480
<v Speaker 1>let's start. I guess North Carolina does go on the

0:35:53.520 --> 0:35:56.480
<v Speaker 1>road and they take on Florida State, Miami and Division

0:35:56.520 --> 0:36:00.880
<v Speaker 1>champ in Virginia from last year a very new look Virginia,

0:36:00.880 --> 0:36:03.000
<v Speaker 1>I would say so. And it's not like going to

0:36:03.080 --> 0:36:06.640
<v Speaker 1>Charlottesville is the craziest, toughest thing to do in normal years, right,

0:36:06.840 --> 0:36:10.400
<v Speaker 1>But North Carolina with a nice home road split, Louisville

0:36:10.480 --> 0:36:13.120
<v Speaker 1>getting Boston College, Georgia Tech, Notre Dame's will be very

0:36:13.200 --> 0:36:15.600
<v Speaker 1>tough on the road. But then Pitton Virginia. I think

0:36:15.600 --> 0:36:19.080
<v Speaker 1>Pitt's going to be interesting on defense, but it's manageable.

0:36:19.200 --> 0:36:21.839
<v Speaker 1>And where if our concerned with Louisville, and we'll talk

0:36:21.920 --> 0:36:24.120
<v Speaker 1>more about this on our eventual ACC preview, if the

0:36:24.120 --> 0:36:26.720
<v Speaker 1>concern about Louisville is how much better can that defense get?

0:36:27.640 --> 0:36:30.360
<v Speaker 1>We're talking a new look Florida State offense, a Miami

0:36:30.400 --> 0:36:32.600
<v Speaker 1>offense that should be better with Derek King but still

0:36:32.640 --> 0:36:35.040
<v Speaker 1>had a ton of trouble protecting the quarterback last year.

0:36:35.360 --> 0:36:39.360
<v Speaker 1>Syracuse would struggle on offense. Virginia Tech, which has been inconsistent,

0:36:39.360 --> 0:36:41.600
<v Speaker 1>but I guess was more promising with Hendon Hooker and

0:36:41.680 --> 0:36:45.480
<v Speaker 1>a Wake team that lost their quarterback. So in terms

0:36:45.520 --> 0:36:50.920
<v Speaker 1>of Louisville's growth, that's pretty great. That seems pretty fricking

0:36:51.000 --> 0:36:54.160
<v Speaker 1>amazing for the Cardinals, and Clemson's in a good spot.

0:36:55.080 --> 0:36:58.120
<v Speaker 2>Clemson's in a really good spot. Definitely tougher on the road.

0:36:58.480 --> 0:37:03.719
<v Speaker 2>Florida State, Virginia Tech included on that away slate, But

0:37:05.000 --> 0:37:08.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, clearly the conference leader going into the season.

0:37:08.560 --> 0:37:11.279
<v Speaker 2>I don't think there's there's any doubt about that. There's

0:37:11.320 --> 0:37:14.000
<v Speaker 2>probably a pretty big gap between them and I guess

0:37:14.040 --> 0:37:16.520
<v Speaker 2>Notre Dame by the time you get down to number two,

0:37:16.600 --> 0:37:18.520
<v Speaker 2>and then I don't know who we would consider three.

0:37:18.640 --> 0:37:20.800
<v Speaker 2>Maybe we can talk about that when we get the previews.

0:37:21.000 --> 0:37:24.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, have the Miami defense, Litleville offense, North Carolina offense. Yeah,

0:37:24.280 --> 0:37:25.160
<v Speaker 1>there's contenders there.

0:37:25.320 --> 0:37:26.960
<v Speaker 2>You know. I think a lot of this for Clemson

0:37:27.080 --> 0:37:30.839
<v Speaker 2>depends on how they decide to slot these games. Are

0:37:30.840 --> 0:37:33.319
<v Speaker 2>they going to be doing alternating home away? Are they

0:37:33.320 --> 0:37:35.799
<v Speaker 2>going to be doing? Like what is that schedule from

0:37:35.880 --> 0:37:39.200
<v Speaker 2>a date perspective going to look like? But I think

0:37:39.200 --> 0:37:41.760
<v Speaker 2>they're in a pretty good spot here, provided these games

0:37:41.920 --> 0:37:43.640
<v Speaker 2>on the road aren't all back to back to back,

0:37:44.520 --> 0:37:47.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, they stand obviously be the front runner.

0:37:48.800 --> 0:37:52.479
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, of course, And I kind of think it's going

0:37:52.520 --> 0:37:54.600
<v Speaker 1>to be such a different season in terms of how

0:37:54.640 --> 0:37:57.759
<v Speaker 1>we evaluate back to back road games because there's just

0:37:58.320 --> 0:38:02.640
<v Speaker 1>there's so much more calculus involved with how players are

0:38:02.680 --> 0:38:05.040
<v Speaker 1>leading their lives, who is and isn't playing, what's going

0:38:05.040 --> 0:38:07.600
<v Speaker 1>on with coaches, what's going on with travel, you know,

0:38:08.120 --> 0:38:11.360
<v Speaker 1>lessened precautions in some states, you know, increased precautions and

0:38:11.800 --> 0:38:14.560
<v Speaker 1>quarantines in some states if you're coming from other states.

0:38:14.560 --> 0:38:16.799
<v Speaker 1>That the idea of and we've talked about this with

0:38:16.880 --> 0:38:18.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, the back to back road and you having

0:38:18.840 --> 0:38:20.680
<v Speaker 1>our three road games and row two road games in

0:38:20.680 --> 0:38:23.719
<v Speaker 1>a row or sandwich games, all of that becomes more

0:38:23.719 --> 0:38:27.160
<v Speaker 1>pronounced because it's all under an umbrella of uncertainty. By

0:38:27.160 --> 0:38:29.640
<v Speaker 1>the way, you should watch Umbrella of Uncertainty on Netflix,

0:38:29.680 --> 0:38:34.360
<v Speaker 1>premiering this Friday. But it's true, it's there. There's so

0:38:34.600 --> 0:38:38.840
<v Speaker 1>much more like the trickiness to this season because of

0:38:38.880 --> 0:38:41.880
<v Speaker 1>everything happening outside of it just come and this is

0:38:41.920 --> 0:38:44.319
<v Speaker 1>not a take at all, but it exacerbates everything. So

0:38:44.800 --> 0:38:47.080
<v Speaker 1>it'll be fascinating to see all of these schedules and

0:38:47.120 --> 0:38:50.279
<v Speaker 1>bye weeks laid out because everything, I mean, this is

0:38:50.280 --> 0:38:53.120
<v Speaker 1>the wrong conference to make this statement with. It just

0:38:53.200 --> 0:38:53.839
<v Speaker 1>matters more.

0:38:55.080 --> 0:38:57.560
<v Speaker 2>The big loser I think in all this, as we

0:38:58.560 --> 0:39:02.640
<v Speaker 2>I guess bring this episode to its conclusion. Yeah, group

0:39:02.640 --> 0:39:04.920
<v Speaker 2>of five teams, man, they.

0:39:04.800 --> 0:39:06.160
<v Speaker 1>Are it's terrible.

0:39:06.200 --> 0:39:08.960
<v Speaker 2>It's shitty as you look around college football, as you

0:39:09.000 --> 0:39:12.200
<v Speaker 2>look at how some of these programs rely on the

0:39:12.200 --> 0:39:14.080
<v Speaker 2>money that they would get from a school like in

0:39:14.239 --> 0:39:17.560
<v Speaker 2>Ohio State or a Clemson to play these big non

0:39:17.600 --> 0:39:21.000
<v Speaker 2>conference matchups. If that dries up, that's a huge deal,

0:39:21.480 --> 0:39:23.880
<v Speaker 2>a huge deal for a lot of these programs. I

0:39:23.920 --> 0:39:27.760
<v Speaker 2>hope we're not talking six twelve months from now about

0:39:27.840 --> 0:39:31.080
<v Speaker 2>programs that had to fold for a year or permanently

0:39:31.160 --> 0:39:35.040
<v Speaker 2>because of financial fallout for the twenty twenty season. I

0:39:35.080 --> 0:39:36.359
<v Speaker 2>do think it's on the table though.

0:39:36.680 --> 0:39:39.560
<v Speaker 1>The other thing thing about the G five conferences, a

0:39:39.600 --> 0:39:42.680
<v Speaker 1>lot of them have consolidated. Obviously, the American was a

0:39:42.719 --> 0:39:45.960
<v Speaker 1>patchwork of a couple different conferences. Conference USA has grown

0:39:46.000 --> 0:39:49.080
<v Speaker 1>in size, the Mountain West has grown in size, and

0:39:49.160 --> 0:39:52.160
<v Speaker 1>with that growth, they're trying to add interesting teams, add

0:39:52.239 --> 0:39:57.560
<v Speaker 1>higher level teams, and that means a more pronounced geographic footprint.

0:39:57.960 --> 0:40:00.440
<v Speaker 1>And if we're saying yeah, we should stay region regional

0:40:00.440 --> 0:40:04.080
<v Speaker 1>and minimize travel time and travel cost these conferences, I mean,

0:40:04.239 --> 0:40:06.279
<v Speaker 1>look at the American alone. Okay, so this is the

0:40:07.000 --> 0:40:08.839
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's fair to say they're that's sixth best

0:40:08.840 --> 0:40:11.960
<v Speaker 1>conference in football. If not higher, I suppose, But the

0:40:12.040 --> 0:40:14.440
<v Speaker 1>fact is they have a team in the Dallas area,

0:40:14.480 --> 0:40:17.680
<v Speaker 1>and SMU, a team in Philly, a team in Cincinnati,

0:40:17.760 --> 0:40:22.279
<v Speaker 1>East Carolina a team, they have South Florida and Tampa.

0:40:22.360 --> 0:40:27.359
<v Speaker 1>They're all over the place tie And so I don't

0:40:27.360 --> 0:40:30.960
<v Speaker 1>know if these conferences in the way that the ACC

0:40:31.080 --> 0:40:33.120
<v Speaker 1>are the way that we talked about a driveable conference

0:40:33.160 --> 0:40:35.520
<v Speaker 1>where they just sort of turn into a pop up

0:40:35.600 --> 0:40:38.719
<v Speaker 1>micro conference for the year, and we just have a

0:40:38.800 --> 0:40:43.520
<v Speaker 1>sort of Northeast Dish division with like Temple and Cincinnati

0:40:43.600 --> 0:40:48.120
<v Speaker 1>and Yukon, I maybe Memphis something like that, where we're

0:40:48.120 --> 0:40:49.759
<v Speaker 1>just like, what do we what are we doing? Are

0:40:49.760 --> 0:40:54.239
<v Speaker 1>we getting a five game G five situation? You have

0:40:54.280 --> 0:40:56.440
<v Speaker 1>the Mountain West, you have Hawaii. Are team's gonna you know?

0:40:56.480 --> 0:40:57.640
<v Speaker 2>Could they move it to spring?

0:40:58.920 --> 0:41:01.680
<v Speaker 1>I think that becomes more possible. I think that because

0:41:01.880 --> 0:41:04.200
<v Speaker 1>the resources are so much more limited at some of

0:41:04.239 --> 0:41:06.560
<v Speaker 1>these places. That was the concern over spring, right, that

0:41:06.680 --> 0:41:08.640
<v Speaker 1>like all hands are on deck. That this is what

0:41:08.719 --> 0:41:11.160
<v Speaker 1>Richard Johnson was talking about on earlier in the week

0:41:11.160 --> 0:41:13.479
<v Speaker 1>on our Wednesday show, where it's just like all hands

0:41:13.480 --> 0:41:16.160
<v Speaker 1>are on deck for football, and if things are better

0:41:16.200 --> 0:41:18.040
<v Speaker 1>for the spring to the point where like, let's roll

0:41:18.080 --> 0:41:21.960
<v Speaker 1>out more sports, Let's run cross country and swim and whatever. Fence.

0:41:22.160 --> 0:41:25.839
<v Speaker 1>I think certain teams have fencing teams that it's going

0:41:25.880 --> 0:41:31.200
<v Speaker 1>to be too difficult in terms of logistics and employees

0:41:31.280 --> 0:41:34.520
<v Speaker 1>with an athletic within an athletic department to run so

0:41:34.640 --> 0:41:38.440
<v Speaker 1>many sports at once. So I don't know, I don't know.

0:41:38.480 --> 0:41:41.960
<v Speaker 1>Maybe you hope for just like a manic October in

0:41:42.160 --> 0:41:47.239
<v Speaker 1>the G five part of the FBS, it's there, they're

0:41:47.239 --> 0:41:50.880
<v Speaker 1>in such a bad financial and logistical bind at this point.

0:41:51.840 --> 0:41:54.000
<v Speaker 1>Or do they just reorganize like the ACC where there's

0:41:54.000 --> 0:41:57.840
<v Speaker 1>no more conferences, where it's just like all right, it's fiefdoms.

0:41:57.880 --> 0:42:00.600
<v Speaker 1>It's once again we have fiefdoms where it's just like

0:42:00.680 --> 0:42:08.080
<v Speaker 1>this crazy Sun Belt Conference USA, AAC MAC Mountain West,

0:42:08.120 --> 0:42:10.440
<v Speaker 1>like they just all of a sudden, just like, all right,

0:42:10.760 --> 0:42:13.160
<v Speaker 1>play somebody within four hours. Let's try to get in

0:42:13.200 --> 0:42:15.520
<v Speaker 1>as many as we possibly can before it gets dark.

0:42:16.200 --> 0:42:20.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean it does call into question a little

0:42:20.520 --> 0:42:24.640
<v Speaker 2>bit about what Richard mentioned on the Wednesday show, this

0:42:25.160 --> 0:42:28.960
<v Speaker 2>notion that maybe this could accelerate be some sort of

0:42:29.040 --> 0:42:33.120
<v Speaker 2>catalyst for the Power five breaking away and starting its

0:42:33.160 --> 0:42:36.279
<v Speaker 2>own deal. Now, I don't think that will happen, but

0:42:37.080 --> 0:42:40.120
<v Speaker 2>I think maybe just for the course of one season,

0:42:40.120 --> 0:42:43.560
<v Speaker 2>it kind of could, and we might bear witness to

0:42:43.680 --> 0:42:44.640
<v Speaker 2>what that looks like.

0:42:44.800 --> 0:42:48.160
<v Speaker 1>Catastrophic, Absolutely catastrophic, I can tell you right now.

0:42:48.680 --> 0:42:52.280
<v Speaker 2>We shall see. Okay, well, interesting show here. My guess

0:42:52.320 --> 0:42:56.759
<v Speaker 2>is that now with the SEC announcement, it sounds like

0:42:57.680 --> 0:43:00.560
<v Speaker 2>rather imminent, we will have a lot to discuss on

0:43:00.600 --> 0:43:06.520
<v Speaker 2>our show on Wednesday. But keep your eyes trained in

0:43:06.680 --> 0:43:12.200
<v Speaker 2>on this movement around college football. It is a fluid situation. Again,

0:43:12.239 --> 0:43:14.960
<v Speaker 2>A lot depends on where we're at as a country

0:43:15.440 --> 0:43:19.919
<v Speaker 2>in terms of fighting this stupid virus two three, four

0:43:19.960 --> 0:43:22.800
<v Speaker 2>weeks from now. Whether or not we could even attempt

0:43:23.000 --> 0:43:25.800
<v Speaker 2>to do this season does sound like everyone's just about

0:43:26.000 --> 0:43:28.879
<v Speaker 2>everyone outside Oklahoma in the Big twelve, I guess are

0:43:29.000 --> 0:43:32.040
<v Speaker 2>looking to start a little bit later than initially planned,

0:43:32.040 --> 0:43:35.640
<v Speaker 2>but certainly a lot more to come here as we

0:43:35.719 --> 0:43:40.080
<v Speaker 2>plot ahead into what looks like a conference only fall season.

0:43:40.640 --> 0:43:43.360
<v Speaker 1>Maybe everybody should start calling Lincoln Riley in the Oklahoma

0:43:43.400 --> 0:43:46.920
<v Speaker 1>program and say, hey, so just saw you at one

0:43:47.000 --> 0:43:52.600
<v Speaker 1>hundred tests with zero positives, Shoot me some tips and tricks?

0:43:52.840 --> 0:43:53.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:43:53.239 --> 0:43:56.440
<v Speaker 1>Got some? Yeah? Got any cheat codes? You got any

0:43:56.640 --> 0:44:00.600
<v Speaker 1>COVID game genies on hand that we can we can wrestle. Yeah,

0:44:00.640 --> 0:44:02.440
<v Speaker 1>that'd be really nice. So good for Oklahoma for that.

0:44:02.480 --> 0:44:05.720
<v Speaker 1>By the way, we keep seeing these pretty awful stories

0:44:05.760 --> 0:44:08.759
<v Speaker 1>about positive tests and spreads and I something. You know,

0:44:08.760 --> 0:44:13.120
<v Speaker 1>the Rutgers players. It's a it's a success and hopefully

0:44:13.160 --> 0:44:14.520
<v Speaker 1>that's able to sustain A Norman.

0:44:15.560 --> 0:44:17.719
<v Speaker 2>All right, well, Daniel, this has been fun. Please do

0:44:17.760 --> 0:44:21.799
<v Speaker 2>write in soliverbo at gmail dot com let us know

0:44:21.880 --> 0:44:24.160
<v Speaker 2>what's on your mind, how you feel about this. I

0:44:24.280 --> 0:44:29.240
<v Speaker 2>know I had a couple verballers right in already voice

0:44:29.280 --> 0:44:33.040
<v Speaker 2>some concern but mostly some support about this model.

0:44:33.440 --> 0:44:34.919
<v Speaker 1>By the way, do you see the doctor who wrote

0:44:34.960 --> 0:44:36.560
<v Speaker 1>in with concern about my hips?

0:44:36.760 --> 0:44:39.560
<v Speaker 2>I do our watch. I was gonna mention that, yeah,

0:44:39.600 --> 0:44:40.200
<v Speaker 2>oh my god.

0:44:40.280 --> 0:44:43.040
<v Speaker 1>And I want to be clear. The doctor seemed very nice.

0:44:43.440 --> 0:44:45.880
<v Speaker 1>Doctor in Seattle said, Okay, so when you wake up

0:44:45.880 --> 0:44:48.759
<v Speaker 1>with sore hips, that means you probably weren't doing as

0:44:48.840 --> 0:44:51.359
<v Speaker 1>much physical activity as you should, because as you get older,

0:44:51.360 --> 0:44:53.839
<v Speaker 1>physical activity is really good for your joints and keeping

0:44:53.880 --> 0:44:57.879
<v Speaker 1>things loose and healthy. And while he's absolutely right, and

0:44:58.000 --> 0:45:01.680
<v Speaker 1>I definitely didn't do physical activity the day be four man,

0:45:01.760 --> 0:45:03.920
<v Speaker 1>was it a bummer to be included in the category

0:45:04.000 --> 0:45:07.400
<v Speaker 1>of consider physical activity to keep your hips loose. Category

0:45:07.719 --> 0:45:10.160
<v Speaker 1>that was that was very real tie.

0:45:09.920 --> 0:45:13.480
<v Speaker 2>Other than the concern for player safety and Dan safety.

0:45:13.520 --> 0:45:14.959
<v Speaker 1>Frankly, yes, thank you.

0:45:15.480 --> 0:45:18.480
<v Speaker 2>Most folks chimeing in in support of what will be

0:45:18.560 --> 0:45:21.359
<v Speaker 2>a quirky fall. Let's hope we can have football. Let's

0:45:21.360 --> 0:45:24.719
<v Speaker 2>hope everyone can stay safe while playing those games, and

0:45:24.800 --> 0:45:26.680
<v Speaker 2>certainly a lot more to come. That's why we would

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<v Speaker 1>You ever get weird stuff on your Instagram, explore or

0:46:05.120 --> 0:46:08.480
<v Speaker 1>discover whatever it's like. Hey, here's some pictures we think

0:46:08.480 --> 0:46:11.279
<v Speaker 1>you're interested. In Now what I'm about to tell you, Ty,

0:46:11.600 --> 0:46:13.920
<v Speaker 1>I understand it's my fault. I understand the algorithm is

0:46:13.960 --> 0:46:17.160
<v Speaker 1>designed around things I'm already clicking on and saying, oh,

0:46:17.480 --> 0:46:20.759
<v Speaker 1>Danny wants more of that, and so yes, sometimes there

0:46:20.800 --> 0:46:24.720
<v Speaker 1>will be an attractive human smut turn here on the podcast. No, no,

0:46:24.640 --> 0:46:26.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm not making a smut turn. But what I'm saying is,

0:46:26.840 --> 0:46:31.600
<v Speaker 1>sometimes there will be an attractive person hitting a golf ball,

0:46:31.880 --> 0:46:35.439
<v Speaker 1>or an attractive person dunking a basketball something like that,

0:46:36.239 --> 0:46:38.640
<v Speaker 1>and I will say to myself, Yeah, that seems like

0:46:38.640 --> 0:46:41.960
<v Speaker 1>that's something I'd like to spend eleven seconds watching, and

0:46:42.000 --> 0:46:44.640
<v Speaker 1>then all of a sudden, all over my whatever. It's

0:46:44.640 --> 0:46:48.359
<v Speaker 1>called explore discover. It's just like you like busty chicks fishing. Yeah,

0:46:48.560 --> 0:46:53.400
<v Speaker 1>come on, Instagram be cool and Instagram has zero chill,

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<v Speaker 1>So follow our Instagram feed, which is now dedicated to

0:46:57.520 --> 0:47:02.400
<v Speaker 1>busty chicks fishing. Higher Instagram feed is golf trick shots

0:47:02.440 --> 0:47:07.480
<v Speaker 1>and Samoya puppies. That's where, Yeah, I know it really is.

0:47:07.960 --> 0:47:12.200
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's scary how well the Instagram algorithm knows you,

0:47:12.280 --> 0:47:17.040
<v Speaker 1>because obviously, aside from busty chicks fishing, it's tacos it's

0:47:17.440 --> 0:47:21.839
<v Speaker 1>weird office memes like the TV show The Office. There's

0:47:21.960 --> 0:47:25.160
<v Speaker 1>a ton of tennis trick shots and weird tennis moments.

0:47:25.280 --> 0:47:30.640
<v Speaker 1>Sure they know me, I guess they got cool. I'm

0:47:30.680 --> 0:47:32.960
<v Speaker 1>a very one dimensional character that got me figured out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah all right, So well that's your update on my

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<v Speaker 2>Look, everybody, enjoy your Friday, have a good weekend, stay

0:47:43.560 --> 0:47:47.040
<v Speaker 2>safe out there. Come on back next Wednesday. We will

0:47:47.080 --> 0:47:49.560
<v Speaker 2>catch you all up on where things are at with

0:47:49.640 --> 0:47:53.040
<v Speaker 2>regard to college football in the twenty twenty season. We're

0:47:53.080 --> 0:47:55.759
<v Speaker 2>hoping against hope there is a season. At least we've

0:47:55.760 --> 0:47:58.120
<v Speaker 2>got some forward movement on what those models and plans

0:47:58.120 --> 0:48:00.000
<v Speaker 2>are going to look like. But you just got to

0:48:00.080 --> 0:48:02.600
<v Speaker 2>stay tuned as we all ride this roller coaster together.

0:48:04.120 --> 0:48:06.080
<v Speaker 2>Couldn't have sent it better for that guy over there,

0:48:06.200 --> 0:48:09.120
<v Speaker 2>my good friend Dan Rubinstein, for myself, Tie Hildebrand, thanks

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<v Speaker 2>so much for downloading, for listening, enjoy your weekend, and

0:48:13.200 --> 0:48:15.200
<v Speaker 2>stay safe while staying solid.

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<v Speaker 1>Peace.