1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal. 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 2: Hell that for me, I'm a man, I'm forty. I've 3 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 2: heard so many players say, well, I want to be happy. 4 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: You want to be happy for a day? 5 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 2: Ato Steak is that woo woof? And them and tie 6 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:23,959 Speaker 2: welcome back to the solid verbal boys and girls, Happy Friday. 7 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 2: I am Ty hilde Brand joining me as always over 8 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 2: there in Chicago Land the one and only Dan Rubinstein, Sir, 9 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 2: how you doing? 10 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: I'm pretty good. I am in my brother in law's 11 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: childhood bedroom as we podcast this. As we've become very 12 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: mobile before ultimately finding a place. We found a place 13 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: to be in the medium term, at least for now. 14 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: For some circumstances, everything's cool. But I'm in one of those. 15 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: I'm in like your first office chair where it's a 16 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: foot wide. Maybe it's squeaky, I like standing up when 17 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: I broadcast this fine program. So I'm all off my game. 18 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: But Ty, I show up, I clock in, I clock out. 19 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: We're here in the college football podcast bubble. I'm ready to. 20 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 2: Roll the college football podcast bubble. 21 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: Could we do this? Could we figure out a place 22 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:18,839 Speaker 1: somewhere between us and just like hunker down for the fall, 23 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: whether or not there's a season we're just roommates and 24 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: we're making content. How about that we would happen? This 25 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 1: whole thing is over, mean you, why don't we get 26 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 1: an apartment? 27 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 2: Yeah? No, let's do it. I'm sure the wives would 28 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 2: love it. 29 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 1: They might. 30 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:34,479 Speaker 2: Actually, Yeah, actually I'll go. I'll go to a little 31 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 2: website we know as Google Maps and see what I 32 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 2: can find about a nice little midway point. 33 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 1: What's up, San Dusky. 34 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll figure something out on the on the Google Maps. Hello, 35 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 2: welcome back. Don't forget to subscribe to the show if 36 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 2: you like the show. We are podcasting all throughout the 37 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 2: off season for as long as that lasts. A little 38 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 2: bit of news on that front, which I'm excited to 39 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 2: discuss here on the program because as you know, oh, 40 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 2: I am a newly minted fan of the ACC. 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Yeah, so, 71 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 2: you know, on today's show, Dan, there there was a 72 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 2: lot of news that's been breaking over the last couple 73 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 2: of weeks, but we got a pretty big one, I 74 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 2: would say, yesterday. As it does relate to the ACC 75 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 2: and what their model looks like. It was pretty detailed. 76 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 2: They trotted that out there. So we're going to talk 77 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 2: about that, I think, for a period of time here 78 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 2: in addition to some of the other news in and 79 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 2: around the world of college football. We're getting to the 80 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 2: point now when folks listen to this, you know, it 81 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 2: may be the last day of July. For many others 82 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 2: it'll be the first day of August. The season in 83 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 2: whatever format that takes on, is getting awfully big in 84 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 2: the window. We're coming to the point now where you 85 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 2: and I have to hunker down. We have to start 86 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 2: thinking about, like, all right, how are we going to 87 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 2: preview this now that we have schedules, Now that we're 88 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 2: starting to see something of a trend line as it 89 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 2: relates to college football and scheduling in formats and just 90 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 2: what this whole dang thing looks like if and when 91 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 2: they decide to kick it off. So I think that's 92 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 2: how we're going to spend our time here this evening. 93 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 2: If you're cool with that. 94 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, And if you're wondering, we wanted to start conference 95 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: and division previews in early July. We that is on 96 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 1: our schedule to do, and we really don't have clarity yet. 97 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:50,919 Speaker 1: I mean, the ACC has helped a good amount, but 98 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: we're waiting on the SEC. Even though things tend to 99 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: be trending. It's according to what it was SI's Ross 100 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 1: Ellinger who I saw the report from that the SEC 101 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 1: is leading to either a ten game or a ten 102 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:04,039 Speaker 1: plus one like the ACC conference schedule for the fall 103 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty. Obviously, we've heard from the PAC twelve 104 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 1: and the Big Ten. It seems like the Big twelve 105 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: is full speed ahead in some fashion to try to 106 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 1: get to twelve. We'll see about that. Bob Bowlsby and 107 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 1: that conference. They're sort of waiting to see what they 108 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 1: can do. I've seen places like Texas originally said fifty 109 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 1: percent now it's down to twenty five percent capacity, So 110 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 1: that conference seems to be adjusting on the fly as well. 111 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: I don't know. I would love to be doing I'd 112 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: love to be talking about Utah State, Boise State, I'd 113 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: love to be talking about cal And Minnesota and FIU, 114 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: But we don't know what any of these teams schedules 115 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: are looking like, so it's hard to preview them. So 116 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: when we have more clarity, please rest assured that the 117 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: content will become an atcha fast and I'm trying to 118 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: think of a word that goes with fast and sort 119 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: of angrily. Maybe furious. Does that work for you? Yeah? 120 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,919 Speaker 1: You could, That's how it's going to arrive to you 121 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 1: or I don't know, hopefully good headphones when you listen 122 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 1: to the show. 123 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 2: Shall we dive into news? 124 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 1: I'm so ready. 125 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 2: Before we get to the breaking ACC Notre Dame news. 126 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 2: You love this. 127 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: This is the second at least chunky Notre Dame episode 128 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 1: in what a week? Week and a half. 129 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, this is Campbell's chunky Notre Dame right here. 130 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm right. 131 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 2: Let's get to some of the other stuff and let's 132 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:34,239 Speaker 2: circle back on the ACCA bit since that is the biggest, 133 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 2: So we talk about the ACC unveiling its model. The 134 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 2: sec per Ross Dellinger is reportedly moving closer to their 135 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 2: own version of a conference only model. The model was 136 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 2: supposedly agreed to in part by a majority of athletic 137 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 2: directors on a Wednesday virtual meeting. It looks like it's 138 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 2: an SEC only ten game schedule. Whatever it is has 139 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 2: to eventually be ratified by the league presidents. But Ross 140 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 2: was quick to point out that it's a fluid situation. 141 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 2: It's changing very quickly. My guess is that we know 142 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 2: where it's headed. It is certainly not official at this juncture. 143 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 2: It definitely could impact things like non conference schedules, especially 144 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 2: when we get to our acc bit and talk about 145 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 2: their model. So a very fluid situation, a lotch changing, 146 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 2: but it does sound like the SEC is moving in 147 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 2: a direction somewhat soon to rubber stamp what their model 148 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 2: looks like. Now that is significant because that would make 149 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 2: the Big twelve the loan holdout. As you said, Daniel, 150 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 2: we're hearing some news on the Big twelve front. The 151 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 2: latest thing that I heard was that news tidbit that 152 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 2: you mentioned about Texas looking at twenty five percent attendance 153 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 2: capacity for home football games in the fall, that is 154 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 2: per their interim university president. I quote to you an 155 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 2: article here from CBS Sports in a campus wide email, 156 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 2: Interim university President Jay Hartzel wrote that the university is 157 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 2: examining a twenty five percent capacity limit at Daryl K. 158 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 2: Royal Memorial Stadium for football games. Given that the capacity 159 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 2: is more than ninety five thousand seats, that would cap 160 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 2: capacity at just under what is this twenty four thousand fans. 161 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 2: You may recall back in June, the governor of Texas 162 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 2: issued a statewide mandate limiting capacity for all stadiums that 163 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 2: are hosting pro and collegiate games at fifty percent. So 164 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 2: Texas right now dealing with a lot of stuff as 165 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 2: it relates to COVID nineteen. They've been hit really hard. 166 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 2: Out of an abundance of caution. They're trying to take 167 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 2: extra measures here by cutting that fifty percent down to 168 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 2: twenty five percent. Again, a lot of this very fluid. 169 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 2: We don't even know what the Big twelve is going 170 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 2: to do at this point. Bob Bolsman might just play 171 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 2: all the games on his own right like he is. 172 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 2: He is the most determined man in the room to 173 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 2: get twelve games in. If there are fans and DKR, 174 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 2: it looks like it's going to be of the twenty 175 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 2: five percent variety. 176 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:19,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, Texas's negotiations with a global health crisis appear to 177 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: be ongoing. Fifty percent down to twenty five percent. Feel 178 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 1: like we're not going to get a news report that 179 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 1: Texas is up to seventy percent now in what they're 180 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 1: thinking for the DKR capacity. So negotiations are ongoing between 181 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: the forty acres and a deadly virus. 182 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 2: The other bit of Big twelve news. It sort of 183 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 2: took a back seat to all the COVID nineteen stuff 184 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 2: going around, but Bruce Felman reports that Lincoln Riley and 185 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 2: Oklahoma have a new six year contract that will run 186 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 2: through twenty twenty five. Obviously a good move for Oklahoma. 187 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 2: For as much as we have talked on this program 188 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 2: about new co which is especially ones that take over 189 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 2: for legends like Bob Stoops being basically a coin flip, 190 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 2: Lincoln Riley has not been a coin flip. I think 191 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 2: I think it's apparent he's gonna work out just fine. 192 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:16,719 Speaker 2: Multiple Heisman Trophy winners, multiple Playoff appearances, clearly a move 193 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 2: that worked out for the better for Oklahoma. They were 194 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 2: wise to lock them up. Who knows how long that's 195 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 2: gonna last, right, there's always like NFL scuttle butt around 196 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 2: Lincoln Riley's name, but for the time being, they got 197 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 2: their man. They locked him down for a new six 198 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 2: year deal. 199 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: Buddy, you can be an air raid coach that gets 200 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 1: fired and still get an NFL job. That's how it works, 201 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: So you might as well sign an extension because if 202 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: you're good, great, If you're bad, still pretty good, still 203 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: pretty good to be Lincoln Riley. And I believe I 204 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: saw Alex Grinch, his defensive coordinator hired last year, he 205 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: got extended and he got a new deal. And I 206 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: know everybody's lasting memory of Oklahoma's defense was what happened 207 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: against LSU, especially in that first half. But if you 208 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: watched Oklahoma last year, there were definite steps in the 209 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: right direction. They happened to play maybe the greatest offense 210 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:08,559 Speaker 1: of all time in a playoff game. I don't think 211 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: it's fully fair, although we all saw it with our eyes. 212 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: But it's not fully fair to judge the Alex Grinch 213 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: experience in Norman after a year, and not fully fair 214 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 1: to look at what Lincoln Riley has done in Norman 215 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: as a reflection of just that specific game. But that's 216 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 1: what we all saw last so I think it's a 217 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:31,959 Speaker 1: no brainer decision to extend and give Lincoln Riley a raise, 218 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 1: and hopefully they can become a more complete team because 219 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 1: that would make Oklahoma more fun on the national level. 220 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: Looking forward to it for. 221 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 2: Sure as we shift gears now and steer into the 222 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 2: ACC news. One other tidbit that I am very curious 223 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 2: to see if it sets any kind of precedent. Virginia 224 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 2: Tech cornerback. You may have seen this, Caleb Farley. He 225 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 2: is opting out playing the season. He's going to prepare 226 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 2: for the NFL Draft. It's significant not just for Virginia Tech, 227 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 2: but I think as precedents go for college football. This 228 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 2: is a guy who's a projected first round pick. The 229 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 2: backstory here is that his mom died a breast cancer 230 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 2: two years ago. The quote from him is, I cannot 231 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 2: afford to lose another parent or loved one. Though the 232 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 2: competitor in me wants badly to play this season, I 233 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 2: cannot ignore what's going on in my heart. I must 234 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:32,439 Speaker 2: make the decision that brings me the most piece. So look, 235 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 2: it's you can't fault the kid for making that decision. 236 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 2: He's got a bright future in front of him. Certainly 237 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 2: as it relates to that Virginia Tech secondary, it's going 238 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 2: to be a bit of a hit. He's a premier, 239 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 2: elite caliber talent. But you know, not just in face 240 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 2: of this pandemic, but certainly with regard to college athletes 241 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 2: who don't get paid and have a lot on the line, 242 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 2: you got to make the decision that's best for you. 243 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 2: And he's clearly doing that here, so you wish him well. 244 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, And there are certain guys around the country who 245 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: it feels like they're pretty cemented into their draft stock, 246 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 1: especially at the top of the first round, be it 247 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: you know, Justin Fields or Trevor Lawrence or Pinay Seul, 248 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: guys like that. Travis etn should be a pretty high pick. 249 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: But there's you know, everybody else is a borderline guy. 250 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: Everybody else basically is looking at the draft outside of 251 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: you know, your consensus eight twelve and even that. It's however, 252 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: long months and months ahead of the NFL Draft, a 253 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: lot can happen in terms of perception, but everybody else 254 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: is borderline. Everybody else needs to improve their stock. So 255 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: it's a tough decision because from as you said, at 256 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 1: human angle, these guys are thinking about family members and 257 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: thinking about possibly immunal compromise family members, and also considering 258 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 1: perhaps And I don't know if this is true or 259 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 1: not about Virginia Tech, but it's is the school I'm 260 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 1: supposed to return to handling everything? Well? Do I have 261 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: a good relationship with coaches? Do I believe that they're 262 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: going to continue handling everything? Well? How do I feel 263 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: about the locker room and culture there? So there's a 264 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: ton of factors. He will not be the last one 265 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:07,839 Speaker 1: to make this decision. We've seen some NFL players do it. 266 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 1: And NFL players are getting paid even not playing, so 267 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 1: it is it is a consideration. Obviously, there have been 268 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: players in years past, and I'm sure it'll move forward 269 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: the same way that take out pretty hefty insurance policies 270 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: against their their draft situation and you know, injury and 271 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: or sickness whatever things out of their hands. So it'll 272 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: be fascinating to watch. But I think I am echoing 273 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: what you're thinking and saying that it's really difficult on 274 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: a on a human angle to blame any of these 275 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: guys if that's the consideration they're making about the others 276 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: in their lives. 277 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it's trust me it when it happens, it 278 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 2: shades your perspective on life. And for sure you know so. 279 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 2: I wish them well, I wish them well. It's a 280 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 2: blow for Virginia Tech, but I wish Caleb fairly well. Yeah, Okay, 281 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 2: all that out of the way. 282 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: Long time ACC super fan Ty hilden Brand, let's talk 283 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: in about the best conference in college foot. 284 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 2: The Atlantic Coast Conference DAN. They are a set now 285 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 2: with their eleven game slate. It includes Notre Dame. The 286 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 2: board of directors voted on Wednesday to proceed with an 287 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 2: eleven game football season. It begins the weekend of September twelfth. 288 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 2: It includes FBS independent Notre Dame playing a full league schedule. 289 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 2: Of course, this is all contingent on public health guidance 290 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 2: allowing it. But here's what we're looking at. All ACC 291 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 2: schools and Notre Dame are going to play ten conference 292 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 2: games plus one non conference game of their choosing. Notre 293 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 2: Dame will be eligible for the ACC championship game. There 294 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 2: will be no divisions. 295 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: Do we know who Notre Dame will choose? 296 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 2: Per what I'm seeing here from the ACC's guidance, it 297 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 2: has to be an in state school, so I guess 298 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 2: they've got some options in that regard, but it would 299 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 2: have to be a school in state in Indiana. 300 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: Well, it's not going to be Indiana Purdue. So what's 301 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 1: up ball State? How's life ball State? 302 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 2: We know from our previous show is looking for company. 303 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess it could be an FCS school something 304 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: like that. 305 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, Notre Dame. And we're not going to harp too 306 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 2: much of Notre Dame, but Notre Dame really is the 307 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 2: interesting tidbit here. It does make the conference a fifteen 308 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 2: team conference for this season. This season only, they would 309 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 2: be eligible for the ACC slot in the Orange Bowl 310 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 2: if they're not selected as a playoff semi finalist, and 311 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 2: all television revenue for the twenty twenty season, including those 312 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 2: NBC broadcasts for Notre Dame home games, will be shared 313 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 2: equally by all fifteen institutions. I saw out on the 314 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 2: Athletic Pete Sampson did a really good job writing this 315 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 2: thing up talking about the predicament that Jack Swarbrick was in. Basically, 316 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 2: Swarbricks saw the writing on the wall and he knew 317 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 2: that you need to try and latch on here with 318 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 2: the ACC if you want to guarantee that you're going 319 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 2: to have something of a schedule by the time the 320 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 2: wheel stops spinning. Otherwise, if everyone goes conference only and 321 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 2: Notre Dame's left out in the cold, like, that's just 322 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 2: not that's not feasible for them. So he knew going 323 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 2: into these negotiations that he was going to have to 324 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 2: give up that NBC money, and I give him credit 325 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 2: for doing so, for pulling the trigger. Now, Notre Dame 326 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:33,199 Speaker 2: already had six ACC League games as part of their 327 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 2: twenty twenty schedule, including Clemson. That game that we've talked 328 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 2: about throughout the course of the preseason. 329 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: Still happening still in South Bend, South. 330 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:46,439 Speaker 2: Bend, YEP. They are now adding Florida State, Boston College, Pittsburgh, 331 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 2: and North Carolina to their schedule. 332 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's start with Notre Dame first and foremost. Getting 333 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: Notre Dame Florida State is fantastic because you're getting what 334 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: a redo of the pick play game from I don't 335 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: even know when that was, twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen, fifteen, 336 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 1: somewhere in there. You're getting a redo of that. A 337 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: nice rematch, just two traditional I guess in the modern sense. 338 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: Powers I like the fact that Notre Dame's playing PITT. 339 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 1: I like that matchup. I like that that's a matchup 340 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: that exists. It just feels like they are college football cousins, right, yeah, sure, 341 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 1: it like. I don't think that game needs to be 342 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:25,880 Speaker 1: played every year, but I like that kind of matchup. 343 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: I like that Clemson Notre Dame is staying in South 344 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:30,719 Speaker 1: Bend because that was a game I think everybody had 345 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 1: circled as one of the big big games coming into 346 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 1: the season, no matter what the season looks like. So 347 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 1: that's a relief. How does it make you feel, as 348 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:42,479 Speaker 1: somebody used to, I guess this hybrid schedule of you know, 349 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 1: keeping Michigan and USC or Stanford, but also playing ACC 350 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: games and sort of having the Notre Dame hand and 351 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: two different cookie jars. 352 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,360 Speaker 2: I like things that are different, and this is very 353 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,120 Speaker 2: different for Notre game. 354 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: You've been talking about a quirk for a while. 355 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 2: This is not quite the flex scheduling that I think 356 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 2: we discussed on one of our previous episodes, but it's 357 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 2: close enough. They're changing this on the fly weeks before 358 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 2: the season is set to begin, and I think it's 359 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 2: feasible provided that health guidance will allow it. I think 360 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:19,239 Speaker 2: it makes sense. It definitely keeps teams a little bit 361 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 2: more self contained within these conferences, and I like it. 362 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 2: I don't know. I am curious to see if this 363 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 2: pushes Notre Dame in more of a conference direction after 364 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 2: twenty twenty. I think that's my biggest curiosity. I'm curious 365 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 2: to see what kind of doors it opens for them. 366 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 2: They may find that being in a conference gets them 367 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 2: things that they couldn't get from the outside. They're like 368 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 2: the second best team in the conference now behind Clemson, right. 369 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 1: Probably, Yeah, there's no obvious choice. North Carolina's interesting. North 370 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 1: Carolina has the second or I guess depending because I'm 371 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 1: just such a disgusting Michael Cunningham fan at this point, 372 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 1: But on how you feel about Michael Coneyham. To have 373 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: Sam Howell at UNC, that's an interesting case, especially with 374 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 1: how they finished last year. But yeah, I think in 375 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,159 Speaker 1: terms of a complete team, Notre Dame is closer than 376 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,199 Speaker 1: North Carolina at this point. The thing that's interesting to me, 377 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: and not just about the ACC and not just about 378 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 1: Notre Dame. But I guess, especially with Notre Dame, is 379 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 1: we're always in search of rivalries. We've been denied rivalries. 380 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: You know, the backyard brawl disappears, the border war disappears. 381 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: With all these things that made you know, Texas, Texas 382 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 1: A and M that disappears. So the fact is, if 383 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 1: we get more conference games in the PAC twelve, the SEC, 384 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,719 Speaker 1: the ACC, whatever, the Big Ten. If we get more 385 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: conference games, that ups the percentage the likelihood of all 386 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 1: of a sudden Notre Dame and Pit. That's the example 387 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: I used earlier. What if that game's super weird. What 388 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 1: if that's a fifty two to fifty one shootout and 389 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 1: there's bad blood. It's like in Texas A and m 390 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 1: LSU from a couple of years ago, that goes you know, 391 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: it has a weird ending and there's emotions all of 392 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: a sudden. We want to see more Notre Dame Pit. 393 00:20:58,480 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: All of a sudden, we want to see more Notre 394 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: Dame North Carolina. If there's you know something, you know, 395 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 1: Brian Kelly and Mac Brown fight at midfield, like Jim 396 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: Harbaugh and Pete Carroll all those years back, it ups 397 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 1: the potential, especially with having a big program like Notre 398 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: Dame involved, that we're creating new memories tie and I'm 399 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 1: for that that's always it's interesting to me new tradition 400 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 1: Bill Hancock style, Yeah, but on the field and actually 401 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: real to me. So I'm totally you know, we had 402 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 1: that close nail bier last year with what it was 403 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 1: A and M. Georgia to get more of A and M. 404 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:36,400 Speaker 1: Georgia with you know, big personalities at head coach and recruiting, 405 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: you know, both teams recruiting in top five ish ways. 406 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 1: I think those kinds of new annual rivalries, annual matchups, 407 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 1: I think is nothing but great, especially in the region 408 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 1: for the sport, because absolutely there are you know, if 409 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: Notre Dame's playing Boston College every year, absolutely there are 410 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: families with Notre Dame in Boston College, brothers and sisters 411 00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: or Pitt brothers. You know that exists in specific regions. 412 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: So more of that is a win. And we already 413 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: see it with the SEC and ACC. Be it with Clemson, 414 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: South Carolina, Georgia, Georgia Tech. Where you can still have 415 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: Notre Dame scheduling say USC or Michigan in the four 416 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 1: you know, in a couple of the four non conference 417 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,439 Speaker 1: parts of their schedule. But do we really need to 418 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:22,159 Speaker 1: see more of Notre Dame against American Conference teams or 419 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:25,439 Speaker 1: MAC teams or you know, does Notre Dame Stanford have 420 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: to be something that carries on forever and ever and ever. 421 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm good with the Irish evolving. 422 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 2: That's may though, Well, this is definitely different. The other 423 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 2: thing that's different from an ACC standpoint is there's no division. 424 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 2: The way that they're gonna determine who wins the conference. 425 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 2: It's going to be based on the conference game winning percentage. 426 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 1: The top two the marriage. 427 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, top two teams are going to play in Charlotte 428 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 2: either December the twelfth or nineteenth, depending on again how 429 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 2: things go, and that will be your your conference championship game. 430 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 2: The thing that comes to mind from me about all 431 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 2: this this I don't know momentum we're seeing around conference 432 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 2: only games. There's no connective tissue. You don't have these 433 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,919 Speaker 2: non conference games, these similarities that you can use as 434 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 2: a frame of reference. 435 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: What do you mean though, what do you mean by that? 436 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 2: Well, if the SEC plays ten conference only games and 437 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 2: the Big ten plays ten conference only games, the ACC 438 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 2: pretty much plays ten conference only games. Yeah, throw in 439 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 2: that one odd ball. I'm assuming the Big twelve is 440 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,640 Speaker 2: going to have to follow suit. The PAC twelves already announced, Well. 441 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 1: The ACC I don't think is going to go plus one. 442 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,120 Speaker 1: I think they'll erase that plus one if the SEC 443 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: saying we're going ten only, I don't. I think a 444 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,160 Speaker 1: lot of that was to keep some of those ACC 445 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: SEC rivalries. 446 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's that's my hunch. But the SEC per 447 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:54,880 Speaker 2: reports is leaning towards ten games right conference only. So 448 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 2: my point is, if you don't have that non conference 449 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 2: connective tissue, those frames of reference, you really have no 450 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 2: mathematical way to compare teams against one another. And that 451 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 2: really really steers into what I think makes college football 452 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 2: our favorite sport. We're gonna have so much argument over 453 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 2: who the best teams are. We're gonna have no real 454 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 2: means of comparison other than the eye test, and at 455 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 2: least for one season, that makes what we do very interesting. 456 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 2: Hopefully that piques interest for the full ten games slate 457 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,360 Speaker 2: the full way through, there will be so much argument 458 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 2: over which teams are the best, which team should go 459 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 2: to a playoff, assuming we can even conduct one, that 460 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 2: it doesn't even matter who's playing whom. Here in the ACC, 461 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,640 Speaker 2: these little pods that we are forming now to try 462 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:49,919 Speaker 2: and stage a season. That might be the quirk that 463 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 2: I think I've been referencing this whole long off season 464 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 2: of uncertainty. 465 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 1: I kind of go the other way. I kind of 466 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: go the fact that this is trending more towards bangers 467 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:04,919 Speaker 1: only that will actually know more about teams. So okay, 468 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 1: So if Sam Howell lights up Auburn in this now 469 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: alternate universe early on in the season for North Carolina 470 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: doesn't mean Auburn's bad. It doesn't mean Auburn's bad. It 471 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,160 Speaker 1: doesn't mean whatever Auburn showed itself to be against North 472 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: Carolina is who Auburn would end up week eight nine 473 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: when we're comparing Auburn to everybody else. But we don't 474 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: have schedules that are inflated by lower opponents, by some 475 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 1: teams playing crazy tough road games as part of their 476 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,719 Speaker 1: non conference, some teams playing neutral site games in an 477 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 1: NFL stadium, some teams playing three lower you know, if 478 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: it's FCS or G five whatever, and not really scheduling 479 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: a Power five opponent. The fact is, while it definitely 480 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,719 Speaker 1: sucks for the sport that G five teams are not 481 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 1: receiving payouts to help fund other athletics. I feel like 482 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 1: the fact is Florida State's playing ten ACC teams that 483 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:03,640 Speaker 1: are likely within a similar space in terms of recruiting 484 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 1: and spending money. And you know, obviously teams recruit differently, 485 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,880 Speaker 1: but how seriously they take football. So what we can 486 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 1: know about Georgia Tech after five weeks or NC State 487 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: after five weeks? I think it gives us better data 488 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 1: than having And I know Georgia Tech act was scheduled 489 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: to play Clemson early on, but if they're playing William 490 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 1: and Mary, if they're playing Bowling Green, I think that 491 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: skews things a little bit. Whereas now we know, okay, 492 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 1: we know what Miami looks like against similar competition, and 493 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 1: we can compare that against cal or TCU. 494 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 2: But there's no mathematical way to do it. What does 495 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 2: this do to poor Jerry Palm or our friend Bill Connolly, 496 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 2: right like, yeah, so much of the way that these 497 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 2: metrics work, things that we rely upon to give us 498 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,120 Speaker 2: some sense of who's good and who isn't, that kind 499 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:54,919 Speaker 2: of goes out the window because you won't have that 500 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 2: connective tissue. And by the way, just through the course 501 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 2: of this very discussion, not going to play the Sound 502 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 2: sources have confirmed to ESPN the SEC is going to 503 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 2: start its season on September the twenty sixth, conference only games, 504 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 2: ten of them. Okay, they're going to run through December 505 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 2: the nineteenth, So again, playing within themselves. It'll make things 506 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 2: very interesting in the SEC. 507 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 1: You said conference only confirming okay, six conference only Okay. 508 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 2: There's not going to be that crossover component here to 509 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 2: the schedule, and it really is a bunch of little 510 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 2: fiefdoms playing within themselves. Poor old Barry Alvarez or someone 511 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 2: like Barry Alvarez is going to have to sit in 512 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 2: a room with twelve other people and figure it out. 513 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 1: I don't think we're getting a playoff, don't I don't 514 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 1: think we're going to get a playoff. I think we're 515 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 1: going to have champions themselves champions. Well, I think maybe 516 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: we'll have conference champions and then we'll have arguments. And 517 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 1: that's fine because and we've talked about this before, and 518 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 1: this was the point I like to make about the 519 00:27:55,880 --> 00:28:00,400 Speaker 1: playoff that this year, especially college football is a TV show. 520 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:02,919 Speaker 1: You're looking at it through a lens of how do 521 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 1: you compare teams when deciding who gets to go to 522 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: the Rose Bawl, Who gets a New Year six game? 523 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,159 Speaker 1: Who gets a college football playoff? Berth, This is a 524 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: TV show this year. College football is existing merely to 525 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 1: exist this fall. 526 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 2: It is so European soccer without the Champions League, right. 527 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 1: Exactly we can come up with we can You know, 528 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 1: everybody's going to be simming all sorts of playoffs at 529 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 1: the end of the year if we don't have an 530 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: actual postseason, which is fine because I while I don't 531 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,640 Speaker 1: love discussion for the sake of discussion, I'd rather see 532 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 1: things settled on the field in some fashion. I don't 533 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: think that's the point of this season. I don't think 534 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 1: if if we're pushing back to September twenty sixth, if 535 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 1: we're saying conference only schedule, you know, teams going from 536 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: eight conference games and some conferences to ten, nine to 537 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: ten whatever, the competitive reasons for the twenty twenty season 538 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: exists less the just put and pen to paper existing 539 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 1: exists a whole lot more So, I don't I don't 540 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 1: shed too many tiers for Bill c and Jerry Palm, 541 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: who I both. I love both of them dearly, but 542 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 1: I think the point is just simply they're just it's 543 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 1: sort of corralled exhibitions at this point, which is fine 544 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 1: because I'm going to watch all of them enthusiastically and 545 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 1: hope that everybody's happy and healthy. 546 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 2: Who are your winners and losers here? I think I 547 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 2: think big winner has to be ACC network. Yeah. 548 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 1: I haven't seen the TV schedule, but in terms of ratings, yeah, 549 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 1: they're going to do. Everybody's going to be at home 550 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: pretty much. You know, we'll have some stadiums with limited capacity. 551 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 1: But yeah, TV is a huge winner here. TV is 552 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: a huge winner because of that quirk in ESPN plus. Yeah, 553 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 1: you know, any station that can carry a game I 554 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: think is a winner. I think, you know, I don't 555 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: have to tell you. 556 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 2: I don't have to tell the people that listen to 557 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 2: this show, most of whom have been cooped up for 558 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 2: many months now, that sports on TV is a big deal. 559 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 2: It's we're not getting back to normal maybe anytime soon, 560 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 2: but it'll at least give us that sense of normalcy 561 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 2: to see some of the sports that we love on 562 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 2: TV again. Caveat if they can pull it all off 563 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 2: and if health allows for it. 564 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 1: Every local mattress company advertising during the games, big winner. 565 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 2: Huge winner. Yeah, in terms of winners and losers. I'll 566 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 2: stay with Notre Dame for just one second. Okay, I 567 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,479 Speaker 2: think this is a win for them. I think it 568 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 2: was a way for them to lock up at least 569 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 2: ten games. I think Jack Swarbrick had to make the move. 570 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 2: I think he did the right thing. I don't think 571 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 2: there will be much of a much of a negative, 572 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 2: much of a drawback for them. 573 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 1: I mean, they're doing it with their other sports already. 574 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 1: Notre Dame is an ACC team. It makes a ton 575 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: of sense. Yeah, it makes it. What's a basketball coach's name, 576 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 1: Big Slick, tair Bray, Mike Bray. He's been doing it forever. 577 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 2: He's been doing it forever. So they, like I told 578 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 2: you earlier, they got the friends referral code here to 579 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 2: get in for one year only to the ACC, now 580 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 2: a fifteen team super conference. We'll see where it goes. 581 00:30:58,160 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: So are you good with it? Do you want it 582 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: to be long term? As a Notre Dame person. 583 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 2: I have always wanted them to join a conference. 584 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 1: Okay, you've been skeptical of them actually making that decision, 585 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: but you've been pro be it Big ten, ACC, Big 586 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: twelve one. 587 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 2: I've been pro Big ten for a long time, okay, 588 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 2: and I would be pro ACC if it was a 589 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 2: move they decided to make. 590 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 1: What's interesting about this, though, tie is whenever it is, 591 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: we push forward to a new normal, because we're not 592 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 1: going back. We're never going back. Life moves forward. There's 593 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 1: going to be some sort of new normal once things 594 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 1: are hopefully better. What's interesting is there seems to have 595 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 1: been conversations about what are conferences really doing for these 596 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 1: major major programs beyond limiting their television earning potential. So 597 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: if it's USC or Oregon, if it's Texas or Oklahoma, 598 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 1: if it's Miami, Florida, state, whatever, in the ACC, a 599 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 1: lot of these programs could probably earn more money at 600 00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 1: this point signing TV deals a la Notre Dame signing 601 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 1: a deal with ESPN. Obviously, we have conference networks already, 602 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 1: but as the NCAA and these conferences aren't needed as 603 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 1: much as they used to be, they're bow tie ins, 604 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 1: they're TV deals. It's interesting that we're having this conversation 605 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 1: about Notre Dame going a conference route when we could 606 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 1: be seeing more Notre Dames as TV deals expire and 607 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 1: places are saying, well, I mean we could, we could 608 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 1: do this all a cart and make some more cash, 609 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 1: just saying yep, Alabama football just signed a deal with 610 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 1: CBS and they're going to make one hundred million dollars 611 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 1: a year. It's wild. It's wild to think about the 612 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 1: next five to seven years, however long it's going to 613 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: take for for everything to return or to progress to 614 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 1: that new normal. 615 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 2: I think Notre Dame. I think conference networks. I think 616 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 2: any TV network that can carry football is a big 617 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 2: winner because there will be quirks here. There will be 618 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 2: some asymmetry to when seasons start and when they finish, 619 00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 2: and who's playing who's not playing. I think, I think 620 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 2: from a fans perspective, it will stay interesting much much 621 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 2: deeper into the season than we are accustomed to. 622 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: Not a sponsor, but I'm I've been very happy with 623 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 1: my Roku. So if you are suddenly meeting some sort 624 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 1: of OTT device to watch more of your team's games 625 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 1: because everything is conference only all of the sudden, I've 626 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 1: been happy with the Roku. Do you use anything to 627 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: stream PlayStation. 628 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 2: Or I use the Roku? Yeah? The KU's great. 629 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, send us some stuff Roku. How about that? 630 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 2: The big loser here? It may only be one. It's 631 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 2: got to be Syracuse in their way schedule, right. 632 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh, Bunny. 633 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 2: Have you seen this thing? Yeah, I don't know. I 634 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 2: haven't seen dates on this yet. I don't think they've 635 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 2: they've given us that yet. But in this new format, 636 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 2: Syracuse has away games against Clemson, Louisville, North Carolina, Notre 637 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 2: Dame in Pitt. 638 00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 1: It's tough sliding. 639 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 2: That's pretty tough right there. 640 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 1: And home games are fine. It's such a crazy home 641 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 1: road split. And I don't know if it's because they 642 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,319 Speaker 1: just value because the part of the thinking with the 643 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 1: scheduling is we want to make this more regional. We 644 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 1: want to cut down on travel time and expenses whatever, 645 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,719 Speaker 1: and do everything to sort of minimize whatever it is 646 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,479 Speaker 1: that travel is going to look like this fall. And 647 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,400 Speaker 1: the fact is, not only does Syracuse get all of 648 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,760 Speaker 1: their tough games basically on the road. They're going to Louisville, 649 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 1: they're going to North Carolina, they're going down to Clemson. 650 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,319 Speaker 1: Is there not? I mean Syracuse was never close to 651 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,879 Speaker 1: a lot of plays outside of Pitt Boston College, I guess, 652 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:37,720 Speaker 1: relatively speaking. But they're not only traveling far and wide, 653 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,320 Speaker 1: they're playing outside of I guess Florida State and Miami 654 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,320 Speaker 1: heavy hitters within the conference, big loss. 655 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:51,240 Speaker 2: I feel pretty much the same about Virginia's road schedule. 656 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 1: Yes, so do I. 657 00:34:54,080 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 2: Clemson, Florida State, Miami, Virginia Tech and then Wake. Those 658 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:04,879 Speaker 2: are four pretty tough places to play, right there. Sure. 659 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 1: I mean when we say tough places, we mean in 660 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 1: a normal year, like Lane Stadium is not going to 661 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 1: be tough this year. True, Virginia Tech could be, but 662 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 1: Lane Stadium's knocking, it's going to be very echo we 663 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 1: enter sam Man if that is still a thing in 664 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:24,800 Speaker 1: Lane Stadium. So you're right. And I actually think Syracuse's 665 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 1: home field advantage in some ways could be more pronounced 666 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:32,360 Speaker 1: in the Carrier Dome like a big, hollow, haunted arena. 667 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 1: But they don't. They don't have any of those real 668 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 1: tough games at home. 669 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 2: Who else jumps out at you here? 670 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 1: Yeah? You mentioned Virginia North Carolina In terms of ideal situations, 671 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 1: Louisville and Duke are also in a good place. So 672 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 1: let's start. I guess North Carolina does go on the 673 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 1: road and they take on Florida State, Miami and Division 674 00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:00,880 Speaker 1: champ in Virginia from last year a very new look Virginia, 675 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 1: I would say so. And it's not like going to 676 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 1: Charlottesville is the craziest, toughest thing to do in normal years, right, 677 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,400 Speaker 1: But North Carolina with a nice home road split, Louisville 678 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 1: getting Boston College, Georgia Tech, Notre Dame's will be very 679 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 1: tough on the road. But then Pitton Virginia. I think 680 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 1: Pitt's going to be interesting on defense, but it's manageable. 681 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,839 Speaker 1: And where if our concerned with Louisville, and we'll talk 682 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 1: more about this on our eventual ACC preview, if the 683 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,720 Speaker 1: concern about Louisville is how much better can that defense get? 684 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,360 Speaker 1: We're talking a new look Florida State offense, a Miami 685 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 1: offense that should be better with Derek King but still 686 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 1: had a ton of trouble protecting the quarterback last year. 687 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:39,360 Speaker 1: Syracuse would struggle on offense. Virginia Tech, which has been inconsistent, 688 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 1: but I guess was more promising with Hendon Hooker and 689 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 1: a Wake team that lost their quarterback. So in terms 690 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 1: of Louisville's growth, that's pretty great. That seems pretty fricking 691 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 1: amazing for the Cardinals, and Clemson's in a good spot. 692 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 2: Clemson's in a really good spot. Definitely tougher on the road. 693 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:03,719 Speaker 2: Florida State, Virginia Tech included on that away slate, But 694 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 2: you know, clearly the conference leader going into the season. 695 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,279 Speaker 2: I don't think there's there's any doubt about that. There's 696 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 2: probably a pretty big gap between them and I guess 697 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,520 Speaker 2: Notre Dame by the time you get down to number two, 698 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 2: and then I don't know who we would consider three. 699 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,800 Speaker 2: Maybe we can talk about that when we get the previews. 700 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, have the Miami defense, Litleville offense, North Carolina offense. Yeah, 701 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 1: there's contenders there. 702 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:26,960 Speaker 2: You know. I think a lot of this for Clemson 703 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,839 Speaker 2: depends on how they decide to slot these games. Are 704 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,319 Speaker 2: they going to be doing alternating home away? Are they 705 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,799 Speaker 2: going to be doing? Like what is that schedule from 706 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 2: a date perspective going to look like? But I think 707 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,760 Speaker 2: they're in a pretty good spot here, provided these games 708 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 2: on the road aren't all back to back to back, 709 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 2: you know, they stand obviously be the front runner. 710 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:52,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, And I kind of think it's going 711 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 1: to be such a different season in terms of how 712 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,759 Speaker 1: we evaluate back to back road games because there's just 713 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 1: there's so much more calculus involved with how players are 714 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 1: leading their lives, who is and isn't playing, what's going 715 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 1: on with coaches, what's going on with travel, you know, 716 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,360 Speaker 1: lessened precautions in some states, you know, increased precautions and 717 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 1: quarantines in some states if you're coming from other states. 718 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,799 Speaker 1: That the idea of and we've talked about this with 719 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 1: you know, the back to back road and you having 720 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 1: our three road games and row two road games in 721 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,719 Speaker 1: a row or sandwich games, all of that becomes more 722 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 1: pronounced because it's all under an umbrella of uncertainty. By 723 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 1: the way, you should watch Umbrella of Uncertainty on Netflix, 724 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:34,360 Speaker 1: premiering this Friday. But it's true, it's there. There's so 725 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:38,840 Speaker 1: much more like the trickiness to this season because of 726 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,880 Speaker 1: everything happening outside of it just come and this is 727 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,319 Speaker 1: not a take at all, but it exacerbates everything. So 728 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 1: it'll be fascinating to see all of these schedules and 729 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,279 Speaker 1: bye weeks laid out because everything, I mean, this is 730 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 1: the wrong conference to make this statement with. It just 731 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:53,839 Speaker 1: matters more. 732 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 2: The big loser I think in all this, as we 733 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 2: I guess bring this episode to its conclusion. Yeah, group 734 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,920 Speaker 2: of five teams, man, they. 735 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:06,160 Speaker 1: Are it's terrible. 736 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,960 Speaker 2: It's shitty as you look around college football, as you 737 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 2: look at how some of these programs rely on the 738 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,080 Speaker 2: money that they would get from a school like in 739 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,560 Speaker 2: Ohio State or a Clemson to play these big non 740 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 2: conference matchups. If that dries up, that's a huge deal, 741 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,880 Speaker 2: a huge deal for a lot of these programs. I 742 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:27,760 Speaker 2: hope we're not talking six twelve months from now about 743 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 2: programs that had to fold for a year or permanently 744 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:35,040 Speaker 2: because of financial fallout for the twenty twenty season. I 745 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:36,359 Speaker 2: do think it's on the table though. 746 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 1: The other thing thing about the G five conferences, a 747 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 1: lot of them have consolidated. Obviously, the American was a 748 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 1: patchwork of a couple different conferences. Conference USA has grown 749 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 1: in size, the Mountain West has grown in size, and 750 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:52,160 Speaker 1: with that growth, they're trying to add interesting teams, add 751 00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 1: higher level teams, and that means a more pronounced geographic footprint. 752 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 1: And if we're saying yeah, we should stay region regional 753 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 1: and minimize travel time and travel cost these conferences, I mean, 754 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,279 Speaker 1: look at the American alone. Okay, so this is the 755 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:08,839 Speaker 1: I mean it's fair to say they're that's sixth best 756 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,960 Speaker 1: conference in football. If not higher, I suppose, But the 757 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,440 Speaker 1: fact is they have a team in the Dallas area, 758 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 1: and SMU, a team in Philly, a team in Cincinnati, 759 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:22,279 Speaker 1: East Carolina a team, they have South Florida and Tampa. 760 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:27,359 Speaker 1: They're all over the place tie And so I don't 761 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,960 Speaker 1: know if these conferences in the way that the ACC 762 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 1: are the way that we talked about a driveable conference 763 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,520 Speaker 1: where they just sort of turn into a pop up 764 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,719 Speaker 1: micro conference for the year, and we just have a 765 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:43,520 Speaker 1: sort of Northeast Dish division with like Temple and Cincinnati 766 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:48,120 Speaker 1: and Yukon, I maybe Memphis something like that, where we're 767 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:49,759 Speaker 1: just like, what do we what are we doing? Are 768 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:54,239 Speaker 1: we getting a five game G five situation? You have 769 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,440 Speaker 1: the Mountain West, you have Hawaii. Are team's gonna you know? 770 00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:57,640 Speaker 2: Could they move it to spring? 771 00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,680 Speaker 1: I think that becomes more possible. I think that because 772 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,200 Speaker 1: the resources are so much more limited at some of 773 00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 1: these places. That was the concern over spring, right, that 774 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:08,640 Speaker 1: like all hands are on deck. That this is what 775 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,160 Speaker 1: Richard Johnson was talking about on earlier in the week 776 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,479 Speaker 1: on our Wednesday show, where it's just like all hands 777 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,160 Speaker 1: are on deck for football, and if things are better 778 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,040 Speaker 1: for the spring to the point where like, let's roll 779 00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,960 Speaker 1: out more sports, Let's run cross country and swim and whatever. Fence. 780 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,839 Speaker 1: I think certain teams have fencing teams that it's going 781 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:31,200 Speaker 1: to be too difficult in terms of logistics and employees 782 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 1: with an athletic within an athletic department to run so 783 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:38,440 Speaker 1: many sports at once. So I don't know, I don't know. 784 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,960 Speaker 1: Maybe you hope for just like a manic October in 785 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:47,239 Speaker 1: the G five part of the FBS, it's there, they're 786 00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,880 Speaker 1: in such a bad financial and logistical bind at this point. 787 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,000 Speaker 1: Or do they just reorganize like the ACC where there's 788 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:57,840 Speaker 1: no more conferences, where it's just like all right, it's fiefdoms. 789 00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,600 Speaker 1: It's once again we have fiefdoms where it's just like 790 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:08,080 Speaker 1: this crazy Sun Belt Conference USA, AAC MAC Mountain West, 791 00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,440 Speaker 1: like they just all of a sudden, just like, all right, 792 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,160 Speaker 1: play somebody within four hours. Let's try to get in 793 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,520 Speaker 1: as many as we possibly can before it gets dark. 794 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:20,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it does call into question a little 795 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:24,640 Speaker 2: bit about what Richard mentioned on the Wednesday show, this 796 00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:28,960 Speaker 2: notion that maybe this could accelerate be some sort of 797 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:33,120 Speaker 2: catalyst for the Power five breaking away and starting its 798 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:36,279 Speaker 2: own deal. Now, I don't think that will happen, but 799 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:40,120 Speaker 2: I think maybe just for the course of one season, 800 00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:43,560 Speaker 2: it kind of could, and we might bear witness to 801 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 2: what that looks like. 802 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:48,160 Speaker 1: Catastrophic, Absolutely catastrophic, I can tell you right now. 803 00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:52,280 Speaker 2: We shall see. Okay, well, interesting show here. My guess 804 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:56,759 Speaker 2: is that now with the SEC announcement, it sounds like 805 00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,560 Speaker 2: rather imminent, we will have a lot to discuss on 806 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:06,520 Speaker 2: our show on Wednesday. But keep your eyes trained in 807 00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:12,200 Speaker 2: on this movement around college football. It is a fluid situation. Again, 808 00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:14,960 Speaker 2: A lot depends on where we're at as a country 809 00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:19,919 Speaker 2: in terms of fighting this stupid virus two three, four 810 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,800 Speaker 2: weeks from now. Whether or not we could even attempt 811 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,800 Speaker 2: to do this season does sound like everyone's just about 812 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,879 Speaker 2: everyone outside Oklahoma in the Big twelve, I guess are 813 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:32,040 Speaker 2: looking to start a little bit later than initially planned, 814 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:35,640 Speaker 2: but certainly a lot more to come here as we 815 00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:40,080 Speaker 2: plot ahead into what looks like a conference only fall season. 816 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,360 Speaker 1: Maybe everybody should start calling Lincoln Riley in the Oklahoma 817 00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,920 Speaker 1: program and say, hey, so just saw you at one 818 00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:52,600 Speaker 1: hundred tests with zero positives, Shoot me some tips and tricks? 819 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:53,080 Speaker 2: Yeah? 820 00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:56,440 Speaker 1: Got some? Yeah? Got any cheat codes? You got any 821 00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:00,600 Speaker 1: COVID game genies on hand that we can we can wrestle. Yeah, 822 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,440 Speaker 1: that'd be really nice. So good for Oklahoma for that. 823 00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,720 Speaker 1: By the way, we keep seeing these pretty awful stories 824 00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,759 Speaker 1: about positive tests and spreads and I something. You know, 825 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:13,120 Speaker 1: the Rutgers players. It's a it's a success and hopefully 826 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:14,520 Speaker 1: that's able to sustain A Norman. 827 00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:17,719 Speaker 2: All right, well, Daniel, this has been fun. Please do 828 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:21,799 Speaker 2: write in soliverbo at gmail dot com let us know 829 00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,160 Speaker 2: what's on your mind, how you feel about this. I 830 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:29,240 Speaker 2: know I had a couple verballers right in already voice 831 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:33,040 Speaker 2: some concern but mostly some support about this model. 832 00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:34,919 Speaker 1: By the way, do you see the doctor who wrote 833 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:36,560 Speaker 1: in with concern about my hips? 834 00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,560 Speaker 2: I do our watch. I was gonna mention that, yeah, 835 00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:40,200 Speaker 2: oh my god. 836 00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:43,040 Speaker 1: And I want to be clear. The doctor seemed very nice. 837 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,880 Speaker 1: Doctor in Seattle said, Okay, so when you wake up 838 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,759 Speaker 1: with sore hips, that means you probably weren't doing as 839 00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,359 Speaker 1: much physical activity as you should, because as you get older, 840 00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,839 Speaker 1: physical activity is really good for your joints and keeping 841 00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:57,879 Speaker 1: things loose and healthy. And while he's absolutely right, and 842 00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,680 Speaker 1: I definitely didn't do physical activity the day be four man, 843 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:03,920 Speaker 1: was it a bummer to be included in the category 844 00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:07,400 Speaker 1: of consider physical activity to keep your hips loose. Category 845 00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,160 Speaker 1: that was that was very real tie. 846 00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:13,480 Speaker 2: Other than the concern for player safety and Dan safety. 847 00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:14,959 Speaker 1: Frankly, yes, thank you. 848 00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,480 Speaker 2: Most folks chimeing in in support of what will be 849 00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,359 Speaker 2: a quirky fall. Let's hope we can have football. Let's 850 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,719 Speaker 2: hope everyone can stay safe while playing those games, and 851 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:26,680 Speaker 2: certainly a lot more to come. That's why we would 852 00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:30,600 Speaker 2: encourage you. If you haven't already subscribed to the podcast. 853 00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,120 Speaker 2: Anywhere you get your podcasts, you can find the solid Verbal. 854 00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:35,520 Speaker 2: Soliverbal dot COM's where you can find all of our 855 00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,560 Speaker 2: old stuff. And if you like the show, those five 856 00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:42,400 Speaker 2: star reviews they help others find us as well. As 857 00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:46,200 Speaker 2: Dan said at the topsoliverbal dot com slash store is 858 00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:49,400 Speaker 2: where you can buy the new T shirt Tech Mobile themed. 859 00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,400 Speaker 2: I'm very excited about this. I'm going to buy one 860 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:56,239 Speaker 2: as soon as we get done. Yes, Instagram, follow the 861 00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,719 Speaker 2: Instagram posts every day on there, We're facebook all sorts 862 00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:00,839 Speaker 2: of fun steps going down. 863 00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:05,080 Speaker 1: You ever get weird stuff on your Instagram, explore or 864 00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:08,480 Speaker 1: discover whatever it's like. Hey, here's some pictures we think 865 00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,279 Speaker 1: you're interested. In Now what I'm about to tell you, Ty, 866 00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:13,920 Speaker 1: I understand it's my fault. I understand the algorithm is 867 00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:17,160 Speaker 1: designed around things I'm already clicking on and saying, oh, 868 00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,759 Speaker 1: Danny wants more of that, and so yes, sometimes there 869 00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:24,720 Speaker 1: will be an attractive human smut turn here on the podcast. No, no, 870 00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:26,520 Speaker 1: I'm not making a smut turn. But what I'm saying is, 871 00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:31,600 Speaker 1: sometimes there will be an attractive person hitting a golf ball, 872 00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:35,439 Speaker 1: or an attractive person dunking a basketball something like that, 873 00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,640 Speaker 1: and I will say to myself, Yeah, that seems like 874 00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,960 Speaker 1: that's something I'd like to spend eleven seconds watching, and 875 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,640 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, all over my whatever. It's 876 00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:48,359 Speaker 1: called explore discover. It's just like you like busty chicks fishing. Yeah, 877 00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:53,400 Speaker 1: come on, Instagram be cool and Instagram has zero chill, 878 00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:57,400 Speaker 1: So follow our Instagram feed, which is now dedicated to 879 00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:02,400 Speaker 1: busty chicks fishing. Higher Instagram feed is golf trick shots 880 00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:07,480 Speaker 1: and Samoya puppies. That's where, Yeah, I know it really is. 881 00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:12,200 Speaker 1: Maybe it's scary how well the Instagram algorithm knows you, 882 00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:17,040 Speaker 1: because obviously, aside from busty chicks fishing, it's tacos it's 883 00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:21,839 Speaker 1: weird office memes like the TV show The Office. There's 884 00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:25,160 Speaker 1: a ton of tennis trick shots and weird tennis moments. 885 00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:30,640 Speaker 1: Sure they know me, I guess they got cool. I'm 886 00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:32,960 Speaker 1: a very one dimensional character that got me figured out. 887 00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:37,319 Speaker 1: Yeah all right, So well that's your update on my 888 00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,440 Speaker 1: instagram and the solverbal Instagram. 889 00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:43,520 Speaker 2: Look, everybody, enjoy your Friday, have a good weekend, stay 890 00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:47,040 Speaker 2: safe out there. Come on back next Wednesday. We will 891 00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,560 Speaker 2: catch you all up on where things are at with 892 00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:53,040 Speaker 2: regard to college football in the twenty twenty season. We're 893 00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,759 Speaker 2: hoping against hope there is a season. At least we've 894 00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,120 Speaker 2: got some forward movement on what those models and plans 895 00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,000 Speaker 2: are going to look like. But you just got to 896 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,600 Speaker 2: stay tuned as we all ride this roller coaster together. 897 00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,080 Speaker 2: Couldn't have sent it better for that guy over there, 898 00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:09,120 Speaker 2: my good friend Dan Rubinstein, for myself, Tie Hildebrand, thanks 899 00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:13,120 Speaker 2: so much for downloading, for listening, enjoy your weekend, and 900 00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,200 Speaker 2: stay safe while staying solid. 901 00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:16,200 Speaker 1: Peace.