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Speaker 1: Radio Radio Radio coms, a myth and bullshit Radio phonic novella.

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Speaker 1: Local Radio hosted by Mala La Locomotives. Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: local Radio. Welcome back. This is Mala and this is

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Speaker 1: the same and we are last Look Radio Radio phonic novella.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us. Thank you for tuning in

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Speaker 1: once again. Local Radio is a podcast archiving the brilliance

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Speaker 1: and legacies of women and fans of color. Thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for tuning in to We didn't I know

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Speaker 1: it's been it's been a long journey. It's in a world.

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Speaker 1: We are excited, exhausted, relieved, happy, like just everything felted.

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Speaker 1: We are so happy right now. Yes, why are we happy?

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Speaker 1: Because well, a week ago from yesterday, from last Friday,

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Speaker 1: we had our very first love a podcast party and

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Speaker 1: oh my god, if you were there, you know that

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Speaker 1: it was amazing. It was everything it was like exceeded

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Speaker 1: my expectations. It was like everything went so smoothly, like

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Speaker 1: everything was just like on brand, on point. Everything was.

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Speaker 1: My mind was blown. Let's talk about it, like from

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Speaker 1: the beginning, Okay, from the beginning, I want to like

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Speaker 1: shout out ourselves because MoMA and I had put so

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Speaker 1: much work into this, like weeks in advance, and if

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Speaker 1: you know, if you know us, you know that we're

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Speaker 1: always running around were procrastinators, like we're doing things the day, yes, really,

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Speaker 1: but this time around we were like, no, like this

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Speaker 1: needs to be like a one, like an amazing production.

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Speaker 1: So like the day of actually, like Mom and I

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Speaker 1: started the day really early and everything was already done,

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Speaker 1: like we had finished everything. So we got to the

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Speaker 1: venue at five pm and like started set up and

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Speaker 1: everything was just on schedule. And I'm really proud of

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Speaker 1: us for that. I'm really proud of us, and I'm

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Speaker 1: really proud of like our team that worked with us.

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Speaker 1: So we had like our squad of just like home

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Speaker 1: girls are friends that we've known for years that we

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Speaker 1: that knew us before we did anything that we grew

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Speaker 1: up with. So like more specifically, um, like my sister

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Speaker 1: was our stage manager, and she helped to time the

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Speaker 1: live show and make sure that like the DJ and

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Speaker 1: us and the projector the visuals, you know, everything was

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Speaker 1: lined up according to plan. She also like puts Mala

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Speaker 1: in check, which is hilarious for me to see because

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Speaker 1: usually it's me tell them you witness you witnessed my

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Speaker 1: dynamic with my sister. It's so funny because so Ivan

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Speaker 1: is the younger sister eleven months, so not that much younger,

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Speaker 1: but she's still the younger sister, and so to see

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Speaker 1: like Mala just like she kind of like Mala kind

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Speaker 1: of spirals in a way and not in a bad way,

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Speaker 1: but she has like so many ideas that she'll go

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Speaker 1: off on a tangent and we'll have to bring her back.

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Speaker 1: So to see someone else do it and be like, Okay, MoMA,

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Speaker 1: but we need to actually focus on this right now.

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Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, thank you for being our stage manager.

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Speaker 1: This makes my job Alatia, thank you much. I like

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Speaker 1: joke about it to about it, but I do need

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Speaker 1: a handler. I do because I do. I have so

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Speaker 1: many ideas. It's like something oh my god, oh like

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Speaker 1: they tend to like be ideas that work they worked with.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, Mama, we need to finish this first and

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Speaker 1: then we can go there one at a time. So

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Speaker 1: to have someone else see it and be like, okay, girl,

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Speaker 1: bring it back. We gotta keep up going with the rehearsal.

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Speaker 1: We gotta go, go, go go. Yes, So Evan's stage

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Speaker 1: managed and she did, Thank you an amazing job. Thank you,

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Speaker 1: Evan did a great job. My friend Monica that I

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Speaker 1: have known since the eighth grade, she was our mistress

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Speaker 1: of ceremonies and she introduced us. She did an amazing job.

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Speaker 1: And I love that part because what we did for

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Speaker 1: our intro was we rewrote the Powerpuff Girls intro and

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Speaker 1: we're not going to share it because you need to

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Speaker 1: go to the party. The next one there will be more. Yes,

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Speaker 1: if you want to see the live show, you need

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Speaker 1: to come to the live show basically. Basically, So that

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Speaker 1: school well, my best friend from high school, um, and

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Speaker 1: helped with the merchandise, and I was really happy because

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Speaker 1: she's like she actually helped with the merchandise. At our

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Speaker 1: one year anniversary. We had like a tiny, tiny little

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Speaker 1: And everybody loved the DJ so much like our DJs.

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Speaker 1: Fucking killed it that party, like everyone was on their

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Speaker 1: feet dance seeing we were taking shots. We were really partying,

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Speaker 1: like we packed the place too. It was full. We

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Speaker 1: had our specialty cocktails which were delicious and so cute.

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Speaker 1: They were so cute. We had little like glittery pink

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Speaker 1: La Mammy and the drinks were delicious. The bartender was amazing.

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Speaker 1: We had our Step and Repeat. We had photos. Priscilla

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Speaker 1: of La Junta took our photos, so all those nice

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Speaker 1: photos that you saw on the Instagram, that was all Priscilla,

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Speaker 1: So thank you so much. Everything was just like wow.

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Speaker 1: Our guests Curly and Maya. Curly and Maya were amazing.

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Speaker 1: They played with us on stage. It was so funny

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Speaker 1: because we didn't necessarily prep them for what they were doing.

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Speaker 1: When they got there, we told them what they were

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Speaker 1: we were going to be here for an interview. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so for you know, we did tape the entire live show,

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Speaker 1: local Landia on the YouTube, right, But basically so that

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Speaker 1: our iTunes and everything. Our idea was like, let's bring

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Speaker 1: was really fun. It were exactly like a variety show.

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Speaker 1: It was amazing. We had matching dresses essentially with our

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Speaker 1: who else was there, um, Curly Maya, I mean Civic

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Speaker 1: who came through. Oh my god, mom, Luis he was there,

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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. Bou also has a podcast called

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Speaker 1: no Vemos and swap me Um. It was really great

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Speaker 1: to see him and Sizzle and Norms have their own podcasts. Yes,

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Speaker 1: they do what's it called again? And they record here. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Um so yeah, it was a really fun night our

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Speaker 1: I don't think he listens to my budimo might He

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Speaker 1: actually designed our snapchat um filter for us. We had

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Speaker 1: to filter for either like your graduation party, something that

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Speaker 1: know I can put you in contact with him. Yes,

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Speaker 1: all right, good times, good fucking time. I'm happy with

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Speaker 1: we will have had um La Junta l As Memorial

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Speaker 1: Day we hosted. It was a beautiful time. We always

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Speaker 1: the Memorial DA So it's a year later. We've come

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Speaker 1: mentoring for us as far as this whole party world

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Speaker 1: lot of our events. Steph Stephanie, thank you for being there.

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Speaker 1: I also want to plug um. We got our pins.

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Speaker 1: Can you let me try? Okay, well I'll describe them

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Speaker 1: while you do that. Okay, so um, thank you too, Adrianna.

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Speaker 1: Adrianna has designed our logo, she has designed our flyers,

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Speaker 1: and she also designed our pins. And they're super cute

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Speaker 1: The Mala pin is a headphone and it has a

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Speaker 1: and it's super cute. I love the way they came

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Speaker 1: out there an inch. There are twelve dollars each. We

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Speaker 1: have a very limited amount. Um. We're shipping them, not

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Speaker 1: this we're supposed shipping this weekend, but because of the

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Speaker 1: out on Tuesday. So they ordered, um, you'll be getting

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Speaker 1: to find us. We're on Venmo. Go to the instagram

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Speaker 1: I spoke, and I spoken a lot about you know,

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Speaker 1: like the gay media, the U S gay media, how

426
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Speaker 1: it was the l world. Will and Grace great ground

427
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 1: breaking and everything there. Yeah, but we never saw ourselves

428
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Speaker 1: like I. I never you know, I never saw myself yes,

429
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:46,360
Speaker 1: super wide like Ellen exactly. And and so I think

430
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 1: right now there's there's a there's a move in Hollywood

431
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:53,879
Speaker 1: where they're trying to change that, but to me, it doesn't.

432
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Speaker 1: It's again, it's not just about us being like us

433
00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 1: to see us, but like we need to have show creators,

434
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Speaker 1: we need to have you know, writers, we need to

435
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 1: have to know exactly because because then it becomes about

436
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,639
Speaker 1: you know, an ideas, and that's how stereotypes get put

437
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,640
Speaker 1: out there and and yeah, so I think I'm leaning

438
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 1: more towards I love that. And you know what's wild

439
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 1: to me. And we talk about this because just in

440
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 1: this little like Oil Heights east Side downtown, just like

441
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,920
Speaker 1: l a city, like this little hub, we are just

442
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,919
Speaker 1: surrounded by so many like Latin X, just like artists

443
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,440
Speaker 1: and creators that do everything from like the graphic designers,

444
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 1: the artists, the speakers, the podcasters, the DJ's, like there's

445
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,440
Speaker 1: there's a little bit of everything. Like we really could

446
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 1: and build our own and I mean the fact that

447
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,719
Speaker 1: you're doing your podcast on your own. Like we are

448
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 1: very lucky to be living in a time of do

449
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 1: it yourselves, like we why yeah, like you don't need

450
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 1: I mean, it'll be nice to have network money and

451
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,399
Speaker 1: all that stuff, you know, sponsorship, but you know we

452
00:24:55,600 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 1: have um and uh and you know, but but like

453
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 1: we we live in an era where you could do

454
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 1: it yourself. You know, you can you can create media.

455
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 1: I mean the Adventures of a Black Girl, you know,

456
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,639
Speaker 1: it's a ray. It's like it's like one of the

457
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 1: biggest examples. And I mean, of course not everybody's going

458
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 1: to get a show at it, but like you get

459
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 1: to tell those stories, and like Hollywood does not have

460
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 1: an excuse to say, oh but we don't know where

461
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:27,920
Speaker 1: this show. We're right here exactly exactly. And so I

462
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 1: literally in Hollywood, we're right here. And that's what I'm like,

463
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 1: we need to take over. We need to like, you know,

464
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,440
Speaker 1: as people of color. You know, it's it's yaasta, you

465
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:41,679
Speaker 1: know like that that's not And again it's because Hollywood,

466
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 1: my son. You know, it sounds you know, maybe I

467
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 1: don't know, like it's not real whatever, but I'm like,

468
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 1: look the rest of America. That's how that's what they're

469
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 1: going to learn about us. It's so who's the source?

470
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Speaker 1: I know. I was actually going to say, this is

471
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Speaker 1: a good transition to talk about, um, the new show

472
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:08,119
Speaker 1: on it starts oh well actually it was. It was

473
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 1: it was based off a story by the god a

474
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Speaker 1: little him forgetting his name. But but um, you know

475
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 1: she she created the show. And what I love about

476
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 1: this show is the fact that you know, Daniel was

477
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 1: very it was being very intentional about creating a space

478
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:30,360
Speaker 1: with like it's all Latino X writers. And sure it's

479
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 1: not perfect, it's not. It's I mean, no, that's just

480
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:37,399
Speaker 1: another thing because exactly because there's not that many, especially

481
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 1: queer women of color out there creating shows. I think,

482
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 1: you know, if anything like this is a you know,

483
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,479
Speaker 1: like a little girl who's watching this, it's like, oh,

484
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 1: she did it, like I can do it, and so

485
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 1: and so I love the fact that that she's creating

486
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 1: this show, which I I like it. I mean, I'm

487
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 1: being biased because because you got a role, tell us

488
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,159
Speaker 1: it look like if you blake, if you blame you

489
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 1: like you missed me. But so so Thania, Um she

490
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 1: hits me up. And and you know, I guess she

491
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,399
Speaker 1: she'd be following my work and my artwork, and and

492
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 1: so she wanted to have artwork in in the in

493
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 1: the set. And I was like, sure, you know, why not.

494
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 1: And not just that, but she was like, I want

495
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 1: to have you on the show because a lot of

496
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 1: the times, especially right now, on social media, you see

497
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 1: a piece of art and you move on net snacks right,

498
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,160
Speaker 1: and you don't get to see who the person behind

499
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 1: this art show and so or you know, the art

500
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,439
Speaker 1: the art piece, and so she wanted to be very

501
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 1: intentional and and put me in, you know, putting me

502
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 1: in this scene. And so again it's really quick if

503
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 1: you blame. You don't see it, but it's there. And

504
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 1: so you know, I showed my mom almost like oh

505
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 1: my god me. So it was it was really cute.

506
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 1: It was really cute and and you know, this is

507
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 1: this this is not my first time that my art

508
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 1: was not nottonious show it was. Another one was for

509
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Speaker 1: my Dame's secretary, uh Sararmidez with an amazing actress. So

510
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 1: my my artwork. She's so amazing. She's like she's very

511
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,880
Speaker 1: like I've met her, like because she's she's a great activist,

512
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 1: you know, like pushing out for she's actually one of

513
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 1: the faces of the PA. She did a video about it. Yeah,

514
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 1: and so you know, like people, we need more people

515
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, I like. But yeah. So so it's

516
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 1: it's really it's it's really strange and cool and amazing.

517
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 1: Like I'm proud of myself. Like I'm like, I'm proud

518
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 1: of you, you think, because like I feel like you know,

519
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: like I don't know, like drawing was my way of communicating,

520
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 1: you know, like not speaking English was like I was

521
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 1: always a kid in the back of the classroom drawing

522
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 1: the teacher and getting in trouble for it, but making

523
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 1: friends and like so I realized at a really young

524
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 1: age that I could say so much through art. And

525
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 1: so you know the fact that now is like on

526
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 1: shows that you know, like people could see like shot

527
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 1: you know, my protfolio archive at all. Yeah, yeah, so's

528
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: it's it's really and I mean and I really, like,

529
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 1: you know, I'm a ham I mean, uh no, but

530
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 1: like I really you know, but I really I think,

531
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: you know, not only do I want to kind of

532
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 1: make my way through you know, Hollywood, hwever I can

533
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 1: make it. But like I like being in front of

534
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 1: the camera. It's gonna sound very cliche. It's gonna sound cliche,

535
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 1: but like I'm taking like improv classes because I want

536
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 1: to do something like I'm you know, I'm working. I

537
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 1: wanna I want to make sure I don't just do

538
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: it um you know, but like I want to be prepared.

539
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 1: And I think and I think one of the things

540
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 1: that yes, I think one of the things that you know,

541
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 1: the reason why a lot of the times people of

542
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 1: color don't get a lot of these opportunities is because

543
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: people don't invest in us. And I think that and

544
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 1: like you can't just put us in front of a camera.

545
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 1: You can't just throw us in there without being prepared,

546
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 1: training and so training, guiding all this stuff, yes, one

547
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 1: of the things. So I'm also part of Culture Strick,

548
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: which is in UH national organization art organization, and our

549
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 1: biggest thing is about how can we support artists of color,

550
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 1: queerness of color. And this means investing in them, putting,

551
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 1: like giving doing mentorship. Right now, we're working with undocumented

552
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 1: filmmakers and we're connecting them with people like who directed

553
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 1: and like people like shout out, like I always give

554
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 1: a shout out because people again, people like people like Daniel,

555
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 1: people who are already in that world. They are being

556
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 1: really intentional and like, how can we invest in you?

557
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 1: How can I train you? How can I share this?

558
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 1: And that mere Yes, and it's women of color like

559
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 1: Ana Anthony, she's like all the other prepared. Yeah, she's

560
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 1: in the show. We've talked about that specific thing on

561
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 1: our podcast. Is anybody who has ever written about us

562
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 1: offered us jobs, put us on. There have been exceptions,

563
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: all women of color, all all of them across. We

564
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 1: have not gotten any kind of help from any straight men.

565
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: I know until after there was visibly like something already,

566
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 1: can I get out of there? What can I get

567
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 1: out of this kind of thing. In fact, yeah, I

568
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 1: mean yeah, I think all of my my mentors you know,

569
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 1: growing up have been you know, having color. Mean Fabiana

570
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 1: Rodriguez who started Culture Strike, she was like, you need

571
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:34,239
Speaker 1: to move to the because I grew up in Long

572
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 1: Beach and a lot of people know my work for

573
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 1: you know, I was doing a lot of stuff with

574
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: the dream Bag and immigration reform stuff, and you know,

575
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 1: Fabiana saw my work and she was like, how can

576
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 1: I help, Like can you come to the Bay Area,

577
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 1: like I'm starting this organization and like not like I

578
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 1: feel like I mean it was lucky, but also like

579
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 1: she saw talent. She's how potential and so to me, like,

580
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 1: I'm like we need to continue to do that. We

581
00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: need to pay it forward and not just like oh,

582
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put you on the show because you have

583
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: no like how can how can I connect you? How

584
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 1: can I hook you up? Because one of the things

585
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 1: that I tell like, if you're studying art, if you're

586
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 1: doing like take I know it sounds very capitalistic, but

587
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 1: you need to take a business class. You need to

588
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 1: do how to basic invoices, like all those things. Yes,

589
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: that's counting on your own. If you're studying art, take

590
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: a business class, tax learn, learn, yes, like it's it's

591
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: it's really important. And Faya has really taught me a

592
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 1: lot of those things and so like and and this

593
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 1: is something I always tell Fi And I'm like, you

594
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 1: have so much knowledge, like she needs to write a book,

595
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 1: like you know, you know how to do stuff like that. Oh,

596
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 1: there's so much knowledge that we have. There's so much knowledge,

597
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 1: a lot of projects we need to do. It's and

598
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: I was talking to somebody. I was talking to Ruth,

599
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: Ruth and Truth Visuals. I was talking to Ruth and

600
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, honestly, I don't believe that

601
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 1: any of these suckers in Hollywood, these major directors, none

602
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 1: of them are any smarter than us. They're not more talented. Clearly,

603
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: they're not have you smarter, They're not more talented. They're

604
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: not geniuses. They're really not. There are people who with

605
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: an idea who have money and connect connected. The difference

606
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: is the funding and the connections and the investment. Yeah,

607
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 1: and the investment. And I like that you bring up

608
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 1: Ray too, because and we've talked about this also. She

609
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 1: in an interview. She was talking about you know, build horizontally,

610
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: like work with your friends, and that's what she did

611
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 1: and I like that and that's what has been Like

612
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: this morning we had a photo shoot with Adriana and

613
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 1: Adrianna has like designed her logo, she designed her pains

614
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: that have just come to ask me because it's like

615
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: amazing did and graphic designer. She's a graphic designer. Sizzle

616
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 1: has like with obviously she's like that's my husband. You

617
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 1: know that. Well, Sizzle will come back into the hold later.

618
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 1: I think this is a good time to transition. You

619
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 1: were talking about undocumented filmmakers and you know the film medium,

620
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 1: and I know that there's an installation coming up that

621
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 1: has with that. You want to tell you more about that,

622
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: So I'm really excited. So actually the Fault TV as

623
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 1: I saw a couple of like Diane Garrero's coming with Grero.

624
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 1: I think she's like having doing a show that she's

625
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 1: got greenlit. Um. There's other shows that are like you know,

626
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 1: around immigration, um. And I think right now immigration and

627
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: dreamers were like a hot topic because people want to

628
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 1: talk about it. But I'm like we've been creating on

629
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 1: content like we like there's there's this for a long time.

630
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 1: Undocumented people having creating content like video content. UM one

631
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 1: of the one of the first documentaries that I saw

632
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,879
Speaker 1: where I saw what I saw like our actual experience

633
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 1: as some documented youth at the time, I was using

634
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 1: two thousand and seven Tom Trent. It was she was

635
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: a filmmaker. She unfortunately passed away in a car accident,

636
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 1: and she was like a hardcore activist for the dream Act.

637
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 1: And so she made this documentary call Lost and Found,

638
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 1: and it follows the student to some documented students from

639
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: u c l A. And she's the struggles that it

640
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 1: was like, you know, again at the time, we were

641
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 1: trying to pass a dream bag when it was much

642
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 1: about the you know, the what it's like to be

643
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 1: on a documented student. But like she made she she

644
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 1: created this and and to me like the fact that

645
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:11,760
Speaker 1: not a lot of people outside of the un documented

646
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: community know this, I'm like earlier this year, I was like,

647
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: I need to like figure out how can we an archives.

648
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: So I started like looking up and and really like

649
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: hitting up friends that I knew that had created stuff.

650
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: And I was like, I wanna, you know, start doing

651
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: like a like a timeline or an archive. And so

652
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: through Culture Strike, using the hashtag on document Film Thursday,

653
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 1: we've been posting a filmmaker, highlighting a filmmaker and their work,

654
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 1: and that's all going to be put in display. Um

655
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 1: I think I can say it now. Hopeby by the

656
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 1: time this comes out. So LA Leave which stands for

657
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Latino International Film Festival at the Chinese Theater,

658
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 1: which is happening in June. Um. Uh. We're collaborating with

659
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 1: Raphaesparsa and putting this installation where we're gonna show a timeline,

660
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 1: you know, of all this of this videos, and we're

661
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:06,879
Speaker 1: showing fifteen videos and that's only a small timeline. I'm

662
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:13,280
Speaker 1: seeing visions of your own undocumented film festival. Let's plant

663
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: plus yeah, cans cans no, Yeah, Like I I think,

664
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: I think, you know, I'm really I was once when

665
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: we're doing we're doing a walk through the space, and

666
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: I was like, girl, I remember when I was in

667
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,919
Speaker 1: high school, I used to take the bus from Long

668
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 1: Beach the Blue Line to the Red Lights and I

669
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 1: just walk around Hollywood Boulevard being well, just walking around there,

670
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 1: you know, walking around being like apperly, flirting with people

671
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: and like just being a teenager. No. I used to

672
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 1: take the and just like drawing on the train. But

673
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, and now we're here putting this installation together,

674
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: Like I was just like yeah. I was just like yeah,

675
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: like like raped because I never done installation and I

676
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 1: was like I wanted to, you know, hit up somebody

677
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 1: who knew and you know, how to put this together.

678
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: And so Drap I was like I told him about

679
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 1: the concept and he was like yeah, I'm down, Like

680
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 1: what can I do? And so that's in collaboration with

681
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: l Leaf and Culture Strikes. So we're doing that and

682
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: and we're the installation is going to be open. The

683
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,879
Speaker 1: film was going to go from June, but on June

684
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,320
Speaker 1: two is when we're trying to plant something and what

685
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: is the name of the installation for people who want

686
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 1: to look it up and go see it? And that

687
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: and the installation is Concasa is wait, no, hold on,

688
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 1: we just we literally just came up with a name.

689
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you're pretty on the spot, like literally

690
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 1: like yeah, it's like it's literally about having cameras and uh,

691
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 1: you know, because again like I don't need papers to

692
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: create I don't I don't need I always say this

693
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:53,879
Speaker 1: like I'm like, if I get deported all the ship

694
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 1: like I might get physically important, but all the ship

695
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: that I created, all the things that I have in

696
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 1: my mind that it can be deported, and so and

697
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 1: so to me, I'm like I wanted again, you know,

698
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,320
Speaker 1: like I wanted to like, you know, acknowledge all this

699
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 1: amazing folks. Nancy Messa is another one. She's like a

700
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: great she's an activist here from from from boil Hides,

701
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 1: and she was part of this film called Limbo and

702
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: they basically, uh, you know, they took cameras and they

703
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 1: were recording their experiences and they put it together in

704
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 1: this film. And I'm like, how do people don't know

705
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:28,800
Speaker 1: this film? You know, like we need to have And

706
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 1: so to me again like it's it's a it's a

707
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,919
Speaker 1: kind of like a visual timeline of all these things

708
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 1: that have been creating. That's beautiful, so much going on,

709
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 1: so much exciting stuff going on. And there's a party

710
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:43,359
Speaker 1: also that you're because you know, all the for those

711
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 1: of you who don't know anybody who goes to does

712
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: all the beautiful, amazing, fabulous, colorful flyers if you haven't been, uh,

713
00:38:56,400 --> 00:39:00,320
Speaker 1: it's a party that was started by DJ Sisle and

714
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:05,320
Speaker 1: her friend norms and I'm badass, you know, undocumented women

715
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 1: of color, you know, and creating a space for for

716
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 1: for undocumented folks, career people, uh, women to co and

717
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 1: like party without like having to like worry about you know,

718
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 1: assholes and all that stuff and and and and not

719
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 1: being in like toxic spaces. So she's not fun and

720
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,760
Speaker 1: so yeah, like like I just love Si so because

721
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:28,320
Speaker 1: like she's she's just over the place. Yeah and so

722
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 1: um so we're coming. So I you know, actually I was.

723
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 1: I was living in the Bay Area when the party started,

724
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: and I was looking from Afar and I was like

725
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 1: I want to be part of that. Like I'm like,

726
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 1: how can I help? And it was I came to

727
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 1: stel and I was like, girl, like, let me help

728
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 1: you with the flyers, like I wanted. I wanted a

729
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 1: lot of the stuff that I do is like very

730
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:50,720
Speaker 1: heavy political stuff. And what she's doing, you know, creating

731
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: this space and she just having fun and because all

732
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: the ship that we see on the news, like we

733
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 1: need to be able to like go to space. And

734
00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:02,879
Speaker 1: she danced it, danced it up like yes, yeah, yes, yes,

735
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 1: and so I was like I was like, I was like, girl,

736
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 1: how can I help, and so she was like, oh, well,

737
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 1: like you know, so I do the flyers and that's

738
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,320
Speaker 1: a lot of fun. And then also there's another crew

739
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 1: that does uh this space um Scum Scum party um

740
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:21,320
Speaker 1: and it's by Rudy Blue and he used to be

741
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 1: part of the Money Can Collective Shout Out Yes. And

742
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 1: what I love about is that if I grew up

743
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 1: as an alternative rock listening, no doubt that was me.

744
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,800
Speaker 1: That was like all the colors and in the rainbow

745
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: in my hair I have, Yeah, that was me. So

746
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 1: they have this party called scumb there was actually last

747
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 1: night they had one. That's why I'm a little bit

748
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: I'm hungover Chicos. They do this party and so scum

749
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: and is coming together and we're going to have a

750
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 1: party and it's it's it's one of the It was like,

751
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 1: this is one of the parties that we're having because

752
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 1: it's a it's a one year celebration for going it's

753
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 1: gonna turn one year old. And so like why the

754
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 1: first party June fifteen here boil highs at first three buillards. Uh,

755
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 1: It's it's right here on on first on first Street,

756
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 1: right in front of the gym's Burgers. But I'm really excited.

757
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 1: I'm really excited. Um, you know, there's gonna be drag queens.

758
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,800
Speaker 1: Selto who's like an amazing drag queen. My friend, my

759
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 1: friend Laddie's who that does like this great impersonation of

760
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 1: Cruz Like it's gonna be. It's gonna be like sucking

761
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 1: new wave music, Cumbia and new wave music, like it's

762
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 1: gonna be. It's it's like a look at, look out

763
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: for the flyers. It's gonna be coming. So but June fifteen,

764
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 1: June fifteen, are your calendar has come through? Is that

765
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to go. We're gonna have absolutely really

766
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 1: have to I love parties are really good. It's it's

767
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 1: it's such it's such a good time. And yeah, like

768
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 1: I always think about how and again I tellus, I'm like, girl,

769
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 1: you're you're making a space for people to to like

770
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 1: just come and have fun. And like I think those

771
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:04,359
Speaker 1: spaces are sacred, Like those spaces aren't necessary. And people,

772
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: it's just a party. Well, it's more than a party.

773
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 1: It's more than you're not Like if you're not a

774
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 1: queer woman of color, a queer person, like you don't

775
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:15,280
Speaker 1: understand like the party space and how it's a sanctuary

776
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 1: for us in many ways. You know, we talk about

777
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 1: the party is politics, like yes, here on the podcast,

778
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 1: we love the party. We love to dance. And also

779
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 1: like in the context because it's a survivors centered podcast,

780
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 1: taking back the night, taking back the bar, taking back

781
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 1: the club, and I should be able to go out

782
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 1: and have fun and get drunk with my friends and

783
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 1: like not be in dangerous exactly. Yeah. Yeah, and and

784
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 1: and that's that I appreciate you know, a sistele for like,

785
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 1: you know, handling and like fucking doing. I'm just like

786
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 1: and and this is again like I've gotten head up

787
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 1: because people think that I'm behind of course, and also

788
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 1: like I automatically as a male, like you must be

789
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 1: in charge, must be the one who was like no,

790
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 1: first of all, I actually like came Stila Norms started

791
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 1: this and shout out to shout out to their podcast,

792
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 1: new podcast, new podcast, new podcast, live broadcast, live radio,

793
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: what they call jo journalists on Tuesday. Yes, Tuesday's here. Yes,

794
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: And so I'm a girl like I we went we went, Okay,

795
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: so we went to we went to go see doesn't

796
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: Bronco And at the Staples Center and I'm like, sist,

797
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 1: I see you here Staple standard, Like I see it.

798
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, you need to be out there. Yes, because

799
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:44,879
Speaker 1: she curates, She curates. She knows what she's doing, having

800
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 1: work now worked with Sizzle for an actual like to

801
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:51,800
Speaker 1: see everything that she puts into her night unto like

802
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 1: taking care of her DJs, the vendors, her line up,

803
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 1: her schedule, everything, everything, everything. It's really cute. We keep

804
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 1: doing what you're doing, love you, my husband. And speaking

805
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: of having fun, what's the what's dating? Like on TV?

806
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 1: You're working on TV, You're here, You're there, She's she's

807
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 1: like an extra for a little bit. And all of

808
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 1: a sudden, Well we were talking about like do you

809
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 1: because I was so okay, so I as a personal size,

810
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: like I grew up very like kind of shine, like

811
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:31,800
Speaker 1: I'm not like guys didn't really come to me, you know,

812
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: and like what's up Like well, I mean I don't know,

813
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 1: like like whenever. And I'm talking about like you know,

814
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:41,320
Speaker 1: when I go to Gate when I used to go

815
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 1: to Gate clubs when I was like younger and like

816
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:47,280
Speaker 1: weiho right, And there's like there's a specific beauty standard

817
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 1: within the gate community that like, I clearly I'm not

818
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: a muscle guy, and so if you're Latino, you're like

819
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: have to look a certain way or you're not look that.

820
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: And so I like that ship like funk with me.

821
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 1: And so when I started, like, you know, it's so

822
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: weird to call them fans, like, you know, but people

823
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 1: I support my work, you know, start hitting me up.

824
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 1: And then there's like a conversation terms of flirtatious and

825
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, it's like are we flirting? Are we

826
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 1: talking to each other? Like are you talking to me

827
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 1: because you think I'm cute? Are you talking to me

828
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 1: because you admire the work? Like I like, it's weird.

829
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: It's exactly exactly like would you talk to me? We

830
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 1: were at the bar, you know who it was like.

831
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 1: And again it's like a very small like it's not

832
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 1: like I'm like walking down the street and people are

833
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 1: like that like that what happens? Yeah and so and

834
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 1: and also yeah, and also there's that and also like

835
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 1: I also you know, don't want to take advantage of that,

836
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 1: like you know, there's there's you know, there's people who

837
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,280
Speaker 1: take a man. It's like it's like a weird power dynamic.

838
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 1: You know, I've mentioned it before. We're like I'll go

839
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 1: to colleges and you know, like young queer people, like

840
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 1: you know, they see you and they're like, oh my god,

841
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 1: I see there's something about that that you're like, oh

842
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 1: my god, I want to talk to you. But like

843
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 1: you have to be able to like not take advantage

844
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 1: of your power and so so. But then time and

845
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 1: then there's like the weirdos who hit you up. I see,

846
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:11,919
Speaker 1: what is your experience? Like, okay, so so we sort

847
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 1: of have I mean, okay, we have a general rule.

848
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, how we have I think we have a

849
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 1: general rule about like not dating our listeners. It's a

850
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,479
Speaker 1: it's a good rule. And like we were talking about

851
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 1: before we started recording, we've had experiences of like people, Okay,

852
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 1: we we do get recognized when we're out in public.

853
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 1: The women Moohanna's will come up to us and make

854
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 1: it known that they recognize us, and they'll talk to us.

855
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:43,879
Speaker 1: But if I've had the experience of like I come

856
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 1: home from something or a couple there's an event, and

857
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 1: a couple of days later or a couple of weeks later,

858
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 1: I get a random d M from a random ass

859
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 1: dude who's like, oh, I saw you at X, Y

860
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 1: and Z place and you were wearing this, and like

861
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 1: definitely saw me, but I couldn't tell you who homeboy was.

862
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: I have no idea. Don't do that. That type of

863
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 1: stuff freaks me out because I'm like, I don't know

864
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 1: when who's looking at me and who knows too much

865
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 1: about me or what. At any given time. If I'm

866
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 1: downtown and I'm on the east Side, it does happen.

867
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 1: I wasn't the Metro the other day. I wasn't in

868
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 1: the met I was in the Red Line. I was

869
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 1: coming home. And then I get home and I get

870
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 1: a DM and as this guy he sends me a

871
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: picture of me waiting for the trip. He was like,

872
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:26,800
Speaker 1: was like, I didn't want to. I know, this is weird.

873
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, it's kind of weird, but I saw you.

874
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,280
Speaker 1: I saw you at the at the at the seventh

875
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 1: Street Metro station and he sent me a picture, and

876
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 1: I was like, part of me was like that, with

877
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 1: part me is like, oh my god, the stalker stop it.

878
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 1: No that He's like, yeah, I know, it's like everywhere.

879
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 1: So I was like, another thing is you never know

880
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 1: a little bit, I'm not gonna not better, but yeah,

881
00:47:56,320 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 1: it's it's just like it's like, you know, like like

882
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 1: place of work, Like no, I don't want to date

883
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 1: anybody who's like my coworker, Like you know, if it's

884
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 1: like about what you know, You're like, no, it's messy.

885
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 1: I would rather I'm really into like, um only right now,

886
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 1: hooking up with people who are just visiting from out

887
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 1: of town and who are leaving every day, that's a

888
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 1: good one. That's a good one. Okay, So because I

889
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 1: travel because and like you know, she she has grinders

890
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,839
Speaker 1: sometimes and sometimes I hooked up with this guy one

891
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 1: time and grind her came over to my hotel. You

892
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 1: know what happens, you know, it did the dirty Bob

893
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 1: or whatever. He was like, oh, you know, like let's

894
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,800
Speaker 1: keep in touch Facebook whatever. I'm like, okay, sure it

895
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:38,879
Speaker 1: was a white guy. I get the benefit of the doubt,

896
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 1: I know. I was like, you know, cool, gave me

897
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 1: the benefit of the doubt, and then he gave me

898
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 1: his Facebook and then he left, and then I'm like,

899
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 1: let me see what I hooked up with girl. One

900
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 1: of the first things, one of the first posts that

901
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 1: I saw it was like from Blue Lives Matter, and

902
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 1: then like I keep scrolling and it's like he has

903
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 1: like an article pole still, an article from Bravard, you know,

904
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 1: illegal alien criminal, you left. I'm like, you give white

905
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 1: people the benefit of the doubt and the competition deserve

906
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 1: the benefit of at this point, they don't. I was

907
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: I was lonely. I was like in Minnesota or something

908
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:22,399
Speaker 1: like the Yeah. Yeah, it was like, you know, very

909
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 1: limited options. But I was just like low key. I

910
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 1: kind of want to be like you know who you

911
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 1: looked up with, right, but you know I didn't. So

912
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: I was like that's the thing like with with stranger,

913
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,840
Speaker 1: like you know, you know, anonymous or whatever, it's like

914
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 1: you never know. But like the good thing about it's

915
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 1: like I'm never going to see him again because like

916
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 1: you know, I left, So I guess that's like that's

917
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 1: that's kind of like what you kind of put in

918
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 1: like when you're when you're doing that, you kind of

919
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 1: the distance helps, Yeah, because no, I don't want to

920
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 1: run into you. I don't want to run Yeah, girl,

921
00:49:56,840 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 1: Like that's why friends don't give me faces, don't make

922
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 1: faces of me. I know all the secrets. She does

923
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 1: know all the sea I want to say. I want

924
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 1: to let it be known that if you are a

925
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:19,800
Speaker 1: man with a girlfriend or you are DM, I know

926
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 1: about it. I know about it. So I just want

927
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 1: it to be know. I've seen the messages. We're not

928
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 1: naming names today, but there's a number of like Latino

929
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 1: men who are in the industry and in the world

930
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,800
Speaker 1: and who are creators who have their very public girlfriends

931
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 1: all over the pages that be in everybody's d M,

932
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:43,840
Speaker 1: responding to all the i G stories, d ms on Instagram,

933
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 1: d M on Twitter, sending Facebook firm requests. Homeboy, I

934
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 1: know about it, homeboys, and I'm shaming you. Don't do it?

935
00:50:53,600 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 1: You know what the first time? Don't I shouldn't even

936
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:05,280
Speaker 1: say no, Like okay, So that's a young gay man iven.

937
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 1: Um uh. Like back in the day before there was grinder,

938
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 1: before there was all that stuff, Um, there was party lines.

939
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:16,359
Speaker 1: Did you ever called party lines? A little a little

940
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:19,879
Speaker 1: bit at a little a little bit younger? She studied poor,

941
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,800
Speaker 1: but she looks like she's not. Yeah. No. So I

942
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,320
Speaker 1: met this guy on a party line and then we

943
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 1: met up. I was eighteen. We met up at Union

944
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 1: Station and he picked me up from he lived in

945
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:32,919
Speaker 1: the valley and so he picked me up. We don't

946
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 1: do the valley, okay, but anyway, so he picks me up.

947
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 1: He was like, let's go back to my place, and

948
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, let's go. So I go to

949
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 1: his house and I'm like, looking up, there's like pictures

950
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 1: of like him, like a lady and kids, and I'm like,

951
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 1: are you married? He was like, oh, but it's fine,

952
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 1: married man, listen and okay, look and I understand sexuality

953
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 1: and he was left, you know, and like, you know,

954
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 1: being queer, it's like it's like a taboo. Although I'm

955
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 1: hoping that things are changing, and like, you know, the

956
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 1: way that we see, you know, especially if you're queer,

957
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 1: and people in the d L, Like, I'm not shaming

958
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 1: man in the d L. It's it's funked up that

959
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 1: you're like, you know, doing this. But that's why I

960
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 1: feel like open relationships are the way to go. Like

961
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:29,720
Speaker 1: I tried, honestly, open, honest, honestly that somebody had somebody

962
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:35,800
Speaker 1: tell me I'm in a non monogamous exclusive relationship. I'm like,

963
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 1: that sounds of a girlfriend. Monogamous exclusive relationships like that

964
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 1: sounds like a fiance. And he's like, no, mo anogamous

965
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 1: committed not monogamous committed relationship. I'm like, if it was

966
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 1: a truly open relationship, you would have just sent that

967
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 1: yeah words exactly. No, it's it's a true. Look. I

968
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,400
Speaker 1: I was in my last relationship, like you know that

969
00:52:56,760 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 1: I was in amazing good Man and you know, that

970
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 1: was my first time into being an open relationship, and

971
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 1: I part of me was like, oh my god, I'm

972
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 1: gonna be like jealous. I'm gonna be like I met

973
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 1: the guys that he was sleeping with and like it

974
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 1: was cool, like they was honestly, honestly we worked up

975
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 1: because you know, again, like I'm like he he was

976
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 1: a good man, Like I like, I was like that

977
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 1: was my fault. Uh, you know, like I'm a virgol.

978
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:25,320
Speaker 1: I wanted me time all the time, and he was

979
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 1: like that's not fair. But anyways, but I learned so

980
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:30,840
Speaker 1: much about like, you know, being like and that's like

981
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's that that's a very Bay

982
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:35,280
Speaker 1: Area and like, you know, like I feel like I've

983
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 1: been here. When I bring it up with other guys,

984
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 1: they're kind of like, I don't know, but I'm like,

985
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:42,760
Speaker 1: but I know you've been cheating on your men anyway.

986
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 1: So it's like if you're gonna like they want to

987
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 1: be able to do it, but they don't want you

988
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 1: to actually openly, honestly be able to do And I

989
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 1: don't know what it's like to be like in straight

990
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 1: relationships that open people like like the sneaking around, like

991
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:59,800
Speaker 1: that's what TA get off on, the lying, the deleting messages,

992
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:04,799
Speaker 1: sil of it. You know. Okay, I cheated at one time,

993
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 1: and I mean I made I was a guy, like

994
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 1: I made that, like I was in a relationship and

995
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 1: then I went to Chicago and I got drawn something

996
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 1: told me I was pretty and we made it out

997
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 1: whatever um, but I felt really bad, like I was

998
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 1: just like I feel horrible, like you know, like there

999
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:25,479
Speaker 1: was clearly there was issues in that relationship, but I cheated,

1000
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 1: and I felt really bad with being in this relationship

1001
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 1: when the the option the open the option of being open,

1002
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 1: like it's there, but like you don't necessarily have to

1003
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 1: like do it, you know, like you could be in

1004
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 1: openment and the whole thing is like again it comes

1005
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:43,800
Speaker 1: down to communications, you know, like honey, look or whatever,

1006
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 1: and like it comes down to like note, like we

1007
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 1: are you know, especially you know, like when we're talking

1008
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 1: about sex being safe, because those those things are important

1009
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:56,840
Speaker 1: because like you're affecting somebody else and that's you know,

1010
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 1: there's no stigma around like STDs and all that stuff.

1011
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:03,360
Speaker 1: There's stigma, but like you're putting somebody's body like without

1012
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:05,879
Speaker 1: their consent about what they're doing. And so I think

1013
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:09,359
Speaker 1: that's why it's important to you know, if you're going

1014
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:12,439
Speaker 1: to be doing that, like being a getting prepped. Yes,

1015
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 1: take all your precautions. We're talking about it, talk about it,

1016
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 1: talk about it because yeah, it's a lot. Like you're saying,

1017
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 1: what ends up happening more often than not is all

1018
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 1: these married people who are sneaking around not being safe

1019
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 1: and then giving STDs to their partner. That happened to

1020
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 1: somebody that you know recently, Right, It's like it's really

1021
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 1: a thing, So don't do that. I think the wind

1022
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 1: you're coming to somebody else. Same. It's been a really fun, fun,

1023
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 1: so much episode, Julio, Thank you so much for coming,

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