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Speaker 2: He is The Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 2: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 3: And welcome to another special edition of The Drive here

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Speaker 3: in Palm Beach, Florida. We are in our final day

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Speaker 3: here of coverage from the Breakers, and earlier today we

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Speaker 3: heard from Steelers President Art Rooney the second and talked

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Speaker 3: about a lot of the rule change stuff, but also

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Speaker 3: talked about Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, and was the most optimistic

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Speaker 3: of anybody that we talked. Of course, talked to Mike

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Speaker 3: Tomlan here. We talked to Omar Kahn here. We talked

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Speaker 3: to Mike Toma twice. And I was kind of surprised

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Speaker 3: that Art Rooney the second was as optimistic as he's

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Speaker 3: as he was regarding the potential signing of Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, a little bit different tone, and we're gonna listen

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Speaker 4: to that. We here coming up here. A little bit

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Speaker 4: different tone from the owner as opposed to the GM

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Speaker 4: and head coach who didn't put it to the side

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Speaker 4: or anything. I mean, they acknowledge that it's out there obviously,

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Speaker 4: and wasn't you know how football speaker is and coach

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Speaker 4: speaks a lot of times they'll dnswer around questions.

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Speaker 1: And things, but they didn't do that. But they didn't say, oh,

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Speaker 1: you know, feel good about it? Look right right right?

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Speaker 3: He is Matt Williamson. By the way, I am Dale Lolly.

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Speaker 3: We are the regular crew here on the drive. We'll

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Speaker 3: be joined hopefully later in the show by Max Startsy.

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Speaker 3: Had some other stuff going on here. We're hopefully get

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Speaker 3: Jerry Duleak of the Post. Is that on here as well,

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Speaker 3: But let's hear R Rooney the second had to say

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Speaker 3: today when we had him just a couple of hours ago.

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Speaker 5: Actually, So just to get started, I guess I'll start

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Speaker 5: with the tush push rule but did not pass and

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Speaker 5: got I guess table for further discussion and you know

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Speaker 5: a lot of long discussion about it. I think there's

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Speaker 5: more to come on it, but no no approval of

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Speaker 5: it today and not happy to answer any question. What

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Speaker 5: was the concern about that art? Was it injuries? Was

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Speaker 5: You know, there are other similar kinds of plays where

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Speaker 5: you know, we have these scrumbs downfield where guys are

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Speaker 5: pushing the pile, and why aren't we addressing that while

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Speaker 5: we're addressing this. So it got into you know, a

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Speaker 6: Do you need more data because it's only been a

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think some people want to see

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Speaker 5: more data too. Yeah.

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Speaker 7: As the rule was presented in this form, were you

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Speaker 8: Favor of the rule as proposed?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it. You know, it's it's a fairly

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Speaker 5: narrow proposal in terms of just eliminating the ability to

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Speaker 5: favor of that, and you like the overtime back till

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Speaker 5: you rule change to the Yeah, yeah, we're good with that.

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Speaker 8: We kick off as well, moving it to the thirty five.

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Speaker 5: It's okay, I'm not one hundred percent sure I'm in

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Speaker 5: love with this this rule, but we'll see how it

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Speaker 8: So just one more year.

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Speaker 1: They didn't know it's it's I.

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Speaker 5: Mean, it can be amended obviously, but but no, I

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Speaker 5: think I think we want to it's it's a permanent rule. Now.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we said there were parts that were being tabled

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Speaker 5: The the on side kick portion was tabled for further discussion,

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Speaker 5: and so everything else was passed.

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Speaker 7: Are you satisfied with how replay review has expanded? Were

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Speaker 7: you like to see more?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean we didn't exactly expand replay. It's replay

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Speaker 7: And is it that you can't throw a flag that

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Speaker 5: Flag, right, if you can pick up a flag, but

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Speaker 5: you cannot put a flag on the field to replay? Right?

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Speaker 3: You're proposal on free agent being able to contact free

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Speaker 5: You know, during the negotiating work.

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Speaker 8: How do you think that's going to impact how well

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Speaker 6: Doing free agency?

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Speaker 5: Are we were against the playoff seating? Look, you know,

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Speaker 5: we think the divisional division rivalries are one of the

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Speaker 5: to do anything to upset that got shot down. Yes,

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Speaker 3: You got headed to Ireland.

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Speaker 5: Outside that, we're excited to be going to Ireland. And

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Speaker 5: you know I told the league we need more tickets.

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Speaker 5: That's the demand so far has been great and we're looking.

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Speaker 1: Forward to it.

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Speaker 7: Set behind the green suit jacket today, the celebrating that

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Speaker 5: Wearing my green suit jacket a lot lately.

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Speaker 8: Next week, you know, yeah, what can you tell us

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Speaker 8: all about Aaron Rodgers in the pursuit of.

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Speaker 5: Nothing new on the Aaron Rodgers front. You know, we'll

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Speaker 5: see what happens, and uh, you know, hopefully we'll know

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Speaker 5: something soon, but you contend to wait, well, not forever,

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Speaker 5: but a little while longer.

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Speaker 7: How did you envision it taking this long and playing out.

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Speaker 5: The way that enough did the vision taking this long?

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Speaker 1: Now?

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Speaker 8: How was the meeting?

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Speaker 3: How are you characterized getting the medium and go through

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Speaker 5: It was good to meet him. Yeah, we talked about

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Speaker 7: I guess there now been some photos and videos of

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Speaker 7: him throwing with DK metcalf Omar said yesterday, if it

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Speaker 2: Things like that.

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Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, I would say it was a good,

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Speaker 5: good sign that he wanted to do that. And you know,

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Speaker 5: we keep hearing that. You know, he's I guess headed

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Speaker 5: signs are positive so far, you.

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Speaker 1: Have a good feeling.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean we keep getting you know, positive sort

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Speaker 1: How about in general the way free agency has gone.

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Speaker 6: What are your thoughts on what you've been able to

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Speaker 8: You know, I think overall it's gone well.

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Speaker 5: We've picked up some players that I think can help us,

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Speaker 3: That was Steeler's president Art Ronny the Second earlier today

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Speaker 3: with the assembled media here down in Palm Beach and optimistic,

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Speaker 3: and I get that, And I just want to be

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Speaker 3: because apparently people are looking at this what you said

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Speaker 3: He can't be going to Egypt during Mini camp. He

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Speaker 4: And to that point, like I don't think you had

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Speaker 3: Ben Roethlisberger had his own show on the fan for years. Uh, players,

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Speaker 3: A lot of players do. I've done shows with players

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Speaker 3: You have to be bought into this. You can't be

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Speaker 1: One hundred percent agree.

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Speaker 4: And I think by no means all of a sudden

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Speaker 4: next day, and that right, right right, I thought he

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Speaker 3: Of the situation, and I thought so as well. And

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Speaker 3: I think maybe he learned a little something about the

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Speaker 3: we can't. I can't just have everybody that I want here.

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Speaker 3: make these kind of concessions and do those kind of things, okay, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: If he's all in, no question, Yeah, I mean, I

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Speaker 4: still think there's a lot of talent there. We can

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Speaker 4: discuss the player at a later date of what they bring.

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Speaker 4: But I mean, I think that he gives you a

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Speaker 4: better chance to win from what I saw last year

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Speaker 4: than the other two quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: And certainly, and it could go wrong, a better chance

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Speaker 3: to win than anybody who is currently available, exactly. That's

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Speaker 3: the other big part of this, Like, all right, you

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Speaker 3: all right, justin fields. You know, they they tried to

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Speaker 3: been an, I don't want to say an eventful weekend

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Speaker 8: Didn't surprise me because I knew they were just gonna

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Speaker 8: I was a little surprised. Dart said that, you know what,

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Speaker 3: So we've been talking about this now for weeks, as

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Speaker 8: Fortunately, this time of year, I don't have to do

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Speaker 8: a lot of talking Dan, correct you, Yeah, five days

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Speaker 8: Well, I'll go back to the beginning where I just thought,

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Speaker 4: Let's let's do this, you know, I think there's a

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Speaker 3: he works out. That doesn't preclude you from from drafting

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Speaker 3: one next year in the first round. If there's somebody

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Speaker 3: there that you like and you have all these compics stacked.

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Speaker 8: Up, you know, dal I think the Stealers plan is

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Speaker 8: that they are all in in twenty twenty six for

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Speaker 8: a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I think that's the right.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you have time. It's not just the compis. You know,

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Speaker 8: there's a possibility it's they could trade, you know, pick

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Speaker 8: your guy, maybe the wide receiver. Some point by November,

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Speaker 8: they could trade and maybe get a second round pick,

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Speaker 8: an additional one. And now you take that additional second

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Speaker 8: round pick, you take one of those compics and you

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Speaker 8: move up in the first round because if they're drafting eighteen, nineteen,

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Speaker 8: twenty twenty one, which has been the spot typically for

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Speaker 8: the most part, you have to move up to go

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Speaker 8: get that guy. And so I think their plan is

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Speaker 8: they are all in because they know they can't continue

455
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Speaker 8: this musical chairs revolving or at quarterback, and it's time.

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Speaker 8: They tried it with Ny Pickett. Obviously it didn't work.

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Speaker 8: That doesn't mean you don't go try it again. Absolutely,

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Speaker 8: you have to keep trying until you get that guy right.

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Speaker 8: You know, it took them twenty years between Bradshaw and

460
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Speaker 8: Ben to find the next guy. It's not that you know,

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Speaker 8: they drafted Cordell Stewart in the second round. You know

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Speaker 8: before that, you know Mark Malone in the first round.

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Speaker 8: But in between that, it was a lot of you know,

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Speaker 8: Neil O'Donnell was a third round pick, trading for David Woodley.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's where you're at. When you don't have a quarterback,

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Speaker 3: doesn't mean you're the Browns. The Browns have tried numerous times.

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Speaker 3: You're drafting first round quarterbacks and trading for quarterbacks and

468
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Speaker 3: doing all that stuff, and none of them have worked

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Speaker 3: because they haven't built around those guys.

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Speaker 8: I was reminded today, believe it or not, from a

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Speaker 8: person in the in the weekly chat that I do,

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Speaker 8: of a conversation that I had with Bill Kower a

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Speaker 8: couple of years ago, and this person said, do you

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Speaker 8: think Mason Rudolph can be a Neil Old type? And

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Speaker 8: I thought, yeah, I do? You can win? Yes, exactly, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 8: And I definitely think. I know the Steelers field they

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Speaker 8: could probably win ten games with Mason. Now, are they

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Speaker 8: going to be a super Bowl contender? No?

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Speaker 3: Probably doesn't win you a playoff game. That's the you

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Speaker 3: know you're not going to be a contender in the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: You saw that a couple of years ago. Yes, could

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Speaker 3: he conceivably start and you could you could be successful, yes,

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Speaker 3: but not to the level of success that everybody seems

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Speaker 3: to want, including the Steelers, which is to advance past

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Speaker 3: the first round and see where you go in the

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Speaker 3: second round or you know, get to the AFC Championship

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Speaker 3: or get to the super Bowl. That's not going to

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Speaker 3: happen with that situation, Fellas.

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Speaker 8: The the the idea is that this guy should have

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Speaker 8: been a tackle big enough. Max Starks is walking in

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Speaker 8: there cookies. And you know, the consensus is is next

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Speaker 8: year's quarterback class is better than this one because it

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Speaker 8: appears at base there's two guys in the first round,

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Speaker 8: and then there's a bit of region and then a

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Speaker 8: bit right, a bit of a drop off. I don't

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Speaker 8: know where Jackson Dart fits in there. I know a

497
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Speaker 8: lot of people want the Steelers to take him at

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Speaker 8: twenty one. That ain't happening. But whereas next year it

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Speaker 8: appears the class is a little is a little better.

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Speaker 1: It appears.

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Speaker 3: I mean you still you don't know. Guys could stay

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Speaker 3: in school. I mean Christian Christian Hackenberg.

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Speaker 8: Yeah that guy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Drew's the same guy, not the same dude. But

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Speaker 3: everybody said, well he's coming out this year, and he

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Speaker 3: decided to stay in school.

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Speaker 8: Carson Beck was because he would have had to take

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Speaker 8: a pay cut.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, Carson Beck was supposed to be the number

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Speaker 3: one guy available this year. He's not even at the

511
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Speaker 3: same school. He got to pay he got to pay

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Speaker 3: raise to go somewhere else. So you don't know, in

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Speaker 3: the in the age of n I l whether a

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Speaker 3: guy's going to come out or not. You know, we'll see, uh.

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Speaker 3: But again, Joe Burrow wasn't considered the top quarterback prospect,

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Speaker 3: you know, before his final year at LSU or LSU.

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Speaker 8: So transferred from guys.

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Speaker 3: Guys will emerge, guys will drop off. But you know

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Speaker 3: you have that ability next year. And if it's not

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Speaker 3: next year, let's say you there's nobody there that we

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Speaker 3: got to move up to go get this guy. Okay,

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Speaker 3: you can still move some of those picks into the

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Speaker 3: following season and try again, right, because you're gonna keep

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Speaker 3: trying until you get that guy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And as much as who the quarterbacks are in

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Speaker 4: this class versus unknowns the next class, I just think

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Speaker 4: the organization could be in a lot better spot, a

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Speaker 4: lot better landing spot for the new quarterback. I'd love

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Speaker 4: that Rudolph's on a two year deal. I mean everyone's

530
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Speaker 4: signing one year deals. Now he's gonna be here and

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Speaker 4: he's probably gonna be the same guy Rogers may or

532
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Speaker 4: may not. But you might be coming off a year where, Wow,

533
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Speaker 4: we ran the ball really well on this second year

534
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Speaker 4: Arthur Smiths. You know, offense, and we're taking the top

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Speaker 4: off with these two behemoths downfield.

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Speaker 3: The offensive line is ready to do. Yeah, the offense

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Speaker 3: is in.

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Speaker 4: A lot more stable situation, you know, to land that guy.

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Speaker 8: I think the other thing too in play here is

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Speaker 8: if Rogers doesn't sign, there's no question the Steelers have

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Speaker 8: to go sign a betteran quarter because they always believe

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Speaker 8: in having two guys with starting you know, past starting experience.

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Speaker 8: So one way or the other, they're going to acquire

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Speaker 8: another veteran quarterback. But if it's not Rogers, then the

545
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Speaker 8: guy they bring in will be brought in to be

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Speaker 8: Mason's backup is basically the way it will work. But

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Speaker 8: when you give Mason runoff two years eight million dollars,

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Speaker 8: that's not even great backup money. It's just backup money.

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Speaker 8: And that's what he was brought in to be. Yeah, right, right, well.

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Speaker 3: Jared will let you go. I know that's a busy

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Speaker 3: day here.

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Speaker 8: You're probably not going to make it to the golf

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Speaker 8: course now late for that team. Let's run right back

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Speaker 8: out here. I need a belt though I can't go

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Speaker 8: out untucked. You can go play this little part three

556
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Speaker 8: right now, like to it's a long part three. You

557
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Speaker 8: know the course itself, and I've played it before. It's

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Speaker 8: like an executive course. There's short, short, short, short par

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Speaker 8: fours and a bunch of part threes. But it's really,

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Speaker 8: it's really uh uh. It's a tidy little golf course

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Speaker 8: because the greens are angled and they have a lot

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Speaker 8: of bunkers.

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Speaker 3: And it's very tight.

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Speaker 8: Yes, it's extremely a lot of fun to play, and

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Speaker 8: it's not easy. It's it's not long, but it's not easy.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely. But our guests, this has been Jerry Duleka, the

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Speaker 3: Post Gazette and the Steelers Audio Network. Get to hear

568
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Speaker 3: Jerry here at the end of the month with us

569
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Speaker 3: again on all the draft coverage. Can't wait for that.

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Speaker 3: We're just around the corner on that Jerry Long.

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Speaker 8: Twenty and I see him. I got I open up

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Speaker 8: the first two nights, Thursday and Friday.

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Speaker 1: You're the opener.

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Speaker 8: I'm the closer. There you go, You're always the closer.

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Speaker 3: He's Matt Williamson. I am Dale, Lollie. You're listening to

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Speaker 3: the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. We are

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Speaker 3: here in Palm Beach where the league meetings are taking

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Speaker 3: place at the Breakers. Jerry's gonna jump out, Max Starks

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Speaker 3: is gonna hop in and we'll continue with the show

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Speaker 3: right after this.

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Speaker 2: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 2: your twenty four to seven Home of the Black and

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Speaker 2: Gold Steelers Nation.

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Speaker 3: Radio, and we are back. I'm Dale Lolly here with

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Speaker 3: Matt Williamson and now Max Starks hopping in here in

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Speaker 3: this seat of Jerry Dulut. Jerry warmed that up for

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Speaker 3: you because it really needed to be warmed up today

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Speaker 3: exactly in this weather.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I love this humidity. Yeah, no, it's great.

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Speaker 3: The memes or the the thing that was out there

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Speaker 3: this morning and all the TV shows was Mike Tomlin's

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Speaker 3: sweating yesterday in the in the breakfast. Is that when

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Speaker 3: the AC was kicked out, I assume Yeah, people need

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Speaker 3: to understand the little the little tent or whatever you

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Speaker 3: want to call these things, a little box container. Yeah yeah,

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Speaker 3: Basically there was no air conditioning in that thing and

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Speaker 3: there were about, oh, I don't know, two hundred and

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Speaker 3: fifty people in that tiny room.

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Speaker 1: Yes, everybody was sweat.

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Speaker 3: It was not built for two hundred and fifty people.

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Speaker 3: We probably broke some fire codes yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Definitely. We're glad the fire Marshal did not walk in

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Speaker 1: during that moment.

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Speaker 6: And then we also had you know what, people don't

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Speaker 6: realize there's others behind us with other personnel.

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Speaker 3: And there were lights and there's lights in there and everything.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it was hot. It was hot. We

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Speaker 1: only went when it broke out.

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Speaker 6: When we sat in there for like ten minutes, it

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Speaker 6: was like, nah, we can't, we can't be in here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know, I get it. But you know,

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Speaker 3: as they say, never let him see a sweat. Well

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Speaker 3: to everybody, everybody's sweating here now. It's just the way

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Speaker 3: it is here. It is hot. But things are also

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Speaker 3: heating up max with the on the Aaron Rodgers front.

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Speaker 3: You heard Art Rooney the second earlier today and he

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Speaker 3: was as optimistic as I and as effusive as I've

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Speaker 3: heard any of the Steelers brass talk about Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, he was.

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Speaker 6: He was very adamant. You know, the question was pointed

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Speaker 6: to him. He didn't run away from it. He was like, hey,

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Speaker 6: you know, I'm expecting this, and you know, I'm gonna

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Speaker 6: be patient for a little while longer in this process,

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Speaker 6: but for a little while. Yeah, but you know, he

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Speaker 6: he but he was like, yeah, you know, things went well.

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Speaker 6: You know, they asked about the visit as well, and uh,

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Speaker 6: you know, so it just it seems like that, and

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Speaker 6: then of course we get the videos yesterday that come

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Speaker 6: in and you're just like.

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Speaker 1: Well that sort of adds up. Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 4: So would you think the draft is the cut off though,

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Speaker 4: I would have to think.

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Speaker 1: You need to know that.

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Speaker 3: I don't even think it goes that long.

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Speaker 6: I don't either, honestly. If it does, if it goes

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Speaker 6: past the next ten to fourteen days, I would be

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Speaker 6: highly surprised.

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Speaker 4: It wouldn't shock me if we got off the plane

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Speaker 4: tomorrow and the Mooner's meeting, stuff's done, and sign me up, you.

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Speaker 6: Know, exactly, like somebody was even kidding like, hey, guys,

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Speaker 6: or do you know this restaurant is there additional seat

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Speaker 6: for somebody?

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Speaker 1: Is he's just going to show up like that?

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Speaker 6: That's a little too Optimistice, But I mean, but I

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Speaker 6: don't see it lasting that long.

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Speaker 8: So Max.

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Speaker 3: One of my issues at the beginning of this process

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Speaker 3: with Aaron Rodgers was that if Aaron Rodgers is going

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Speaker 3: to be a part of this, he has to be

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Speaker 3: a part of it. He can't be skipping OTAs. He

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Speaker 3: can't be in Egypt during mini camp. He can't be

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Speaker 3: telling them, hey, you need to bring in Randall Cobb

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Speaker 3: and Alan Lazard and it has to be no, this

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Speaker 3: is what we've got. These are the guys you're working with,

655
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 3: and you're going to be here and be a part

656
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 3: of this or okay, we're you know, you've been in

657
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 3: the locker room before. You've been a part of this

658
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 3: for a long time. You've seen situations. I mean, I

659
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 3: can Ben wasn't at every ota, but he didn't need

660
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 3: to be at every ota by the time he's a

661
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 3: ten year veteran guy. It wasn't a new guy. The

662
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 3: offense wasn't. But when when you bring in, say, for example,

663
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 3: Todd Haley comes in as the offensive coordinator, you got

664
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 3: a new offense to learn. Well, then he needs to

665
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 3: be there because he's the team leader exactly.

666
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 6: And that's the same thing I think for him. And

667
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 6: you can't acquiesce. It's like, this is what we have

668
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 6: to offer, similar to Russell Wilson, right, this is what

669
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 6: we have to offer. We're not we're not doing all

670
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 6: of the extra stuff for this. This is what we're

671
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 6: working with. This is what we're planning towards. Now, we'll

672
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 6: let you you know, behind the curtain a little bit

673
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 6: of the draft process once you agree to be on

674
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 6: the team.

675
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 1: But you are here.

676
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 9: If you are QB one, you are here and you

677
00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 9: have to be actively engaged. Yeah, and wah Russ did

678
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 9: an amazing job that, even when injured, super engaged.

679
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 1: Yeah.

680
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 6: Absolutely, you know, And I think that's something that people

681
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 6: kind of gloss over as far as Russell Wilson's time.

682
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 6: They want to look at on the field back set,

683
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 6: but what he did behind closed doors set a different

684
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 6: philosophy and a different culture that wasn't here before for

685
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 6: a while.

686
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 8: You know that.

687
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 6: I'd always talk about this the time during training camp.

688
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 6: Dude is injured, and every day in the evening he

689
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,719
Speaker 6: was down on the field a different position group, working

690
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 6: with those guys, talking to those guys, trying to get

691
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 6: to know those guys because he knew eventually he would

692
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 6: be in and he didn't want to miss that time.

693
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 6: If he's not getting the physical reps, he was getting

694
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 6: all the mental and emotional reps necessary. So you want

695
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 6: that same approach to kind of carry over if you're

696
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 6: going to be a new guy joining this team.

697
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 3: And I just wonder, having gone down the other route

698
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 3: with the Jets, if Aaron Rodgers didn't look at that

699
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 3: and go, yeah, I probably screwed that up. Maybe I

700
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 3: do need to do these things.

701
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:03,959
Speaker 4: And oh, by the way, can you think of two

702
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,479
Speaker 4: different organizations than the Green Bay, Wisconsin Packers and the

703
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 4: New York Jets, just in terms of history where they

704
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 4: are in the world ownership, I mean night and.

705
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 1: Day, yeah, nine day, and you're kind of coming back.

706
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 6: You're coming back to its almost like the boomerang that

707
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 6: went out right right right, swinging back. Like when you

708
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 6: think of what the Packers organization is, Steelers organization is

709
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 6: very similar older traditional successful franchises.

710
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 1: A lot of rings, Yeah, a lot of ring family owned.

711
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 4: I know they don't have an owner, but you know,

712
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 4: smaller town you know, right.

713
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 1: Well, I mean it's family owned, a lot of families own.

714
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 3: It exactly family's own.

715
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 6: But but there's also there's a certain sense because of

716
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 6: the market size, right, like, we don't put up with

717
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 6: that type of stuff. This is a very blue collar,

718
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 6: very very hard working, and very passionate fan base. So

719
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 6: your dedication the way that you this is not the

720
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 6: lights in the glamour of New York City across the

721
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 6: river or whatever, however, particularly it's a New Jersey but

722
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,320
Speaker 6: that it's not that safety. Yeah, it's a different world,

723
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 6: and so you have to act a.

724
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 4: Core different distractions off the field and different media and

725
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 4: different everything.

726
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly not. We're not looking.

727
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 6: And also the media here is not looking to punch

728
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 6: holes through everything, whereas New York they're looking for the shock,

729
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 6: they're looking for the all, they're looking for the headline

730
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 6: because there's like twenty thousand of those guys trying to

731
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 6: get that one little nugget that clicked.

732
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 1: Like we're homogeneous here.

733
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 6: It's like, hey, you do right, we acknowledge right, but

734
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:33,800
Speaker 6: when you do wrong, we will slap you on the

735
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 6: wrist immediately.

736
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 3: I think part of it too to your point, like,

737
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 3: and we've talked about this both on and off the air,

738
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 3: the way that you guys, because you're in a smaller

739
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 3: city in Pittsburgh, can hang out with each other, whereas

740
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 3: if you're in New Jersey slash New York all that stuff,

741
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:58,839
Speaker 3: Like one guy may live as the crow flies, it's

742
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 3: only six miles, but it's gonna take me two hours

743
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 3: to get those six miles, So we can't hang out.

744
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 1: Meet you in fifteen minutes for a pizza, you know.

745
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,800
Speaker 6: That's what doesn't happen, can't be on the south side, like,

746
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 6: hey man, just let's go, let's go down here.

747
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 3: If come in the North Hills, getting to the south side,

748
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 3: I can do I can do it in twenty minutes

749
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 3: or fifteen minutes.

750
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, yeah, you look at there gifsnia right,

751
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 6: I mean if you're a ross park, I mean even

752
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 6: you know, guys can get everywhere, and there's also places

753
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 6: where guys can't be together and be private, you know

754
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 6: what I'm saying, Whereas in New York there's no privacy

755
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 6: and you're competing with all the other distractions, celebrity and

756
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 6: everything else in the microscope, Like you can go.

757
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 3: Hang poparazzi everywhere, Yeah, waiting to just waiting to get waiting.

758
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 6: For that one illicit moment. That's not that's not here.

759
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:41,359
Speaker 6: We don't have people hanging out at.

760
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:42,720
Speaker 3: Every restaurant wait to take a picture.

761
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 4: So Dale and I've talked somewhat of this, but really

762
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 4: haven't gone deep into the deep end because.

763
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: He's not a Steeler yet.

764
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 4: But yeah, I'm talking about his schematic fit, what he

765
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 4: brings as a player. I don't know how much you've

766
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 4: watched of him in the last two years or so,

767
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 4: But like, what are some scheme things, some offensive things.

768
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: That you would expect the change if he becomes a guy.

769
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,399
Speaker 6: You know, well based off of what I saw from

770
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 6: Arthur Smith oftense, I just I just think, you know,

771
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 6: he's a guy, He's gonna fit Smith's system because you're

772
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 6: not asking the quarterback to be that mobile threat option.

773
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 6: You love some RPO stuff off the edges as change ups,

774
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 6: but it wasn't a huge part of the game plan, no,

775
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 6: So you know, the biggest thing is going to be

776
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 6: running the ball effectively, utilizing your play action, utilizing your

777
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,760
Speaker 6: screen game. I think Aaron Rodgers fits the screen game.

778
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 3: Very well with one of the best to do it.

779
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:34,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, I say he has one of the best hides

780
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 6: outside of Peyton Manning. You know, when it comes to

781
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 6: the play action fakes and then the toss backs, and if.

782
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 3: You think about some of the stuff that Arthur Smith

783
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 3: did with Ryan Tanneyhill in when he was in tennessee

784
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 3: some of that stuff where you know, play action boom

785
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 3: right over the middle, the guy running, you know, guy

786
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 3: running that quick slant or a little skinny post and

787
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 3: boom there, you know, and you've Gallows, You've now had

788
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,240
Speaker 3: a DK Metcalf to the equation.

789
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 4: I know, but you're gonna see more quick game, You're

790
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 4: gonna see more intermediate game.

791
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 6: I mean especially I would say quick quick slant.

792
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: Metcalf runs a great quick slant. I mean, it's his

793
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: is tremendous him.

794
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 6: Once he makes that decision, it's over with. It's just

795
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 6: hit him in the chest.

796
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 1: And then he boxes everybody out to get him on

797
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: the ground, right, Yeah, exactly.

798
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 6: And so I think when you're talking about some of

799
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 6: that short that that second and third and medium situations,

800
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 6: that's where he's a great he's a great option as well.

801
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 6: And then I think that brings along George Pickens. So

802
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 6: now if you've got two of those guys, and guys

803
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 6: are scared to crowd the boxes wide open on those edges,

804
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 6: especially if you're teams running that traditional three three down

805
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 6: type of look where you got the edges coming boom,

806
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 6: there's a spot right there in that curl flat zone

807
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 6: that's gonna be vacated immediately because the linebacker can't come

808
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 6: across fast enough to cut underneath it.

809
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 1: I'd expect more in breakers in general, too, you know.

810
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, And I think because we didn't do as much

811
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 6: middle of the field. It's wide open, you know. And

812
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 6: whether that was Russ's headsitation whatever, justin's a.

813
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 3: Lot of times there was there was an extra safety

814
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:06,720
Speaker 3: down in that box.

815
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 6: There was there was, but I mean but but because

816
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:10,280
Speaker 6: also the guys.

817
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 1: Didn't throw him out of that.

818
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 6: They didn't throw it out of it, right, and they're like, well,

819
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 6: this is nazy, but you.

820
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 3: Had one guy who could get deep. So the safety

821
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,320
Speaker 3: is going to shade towards George Pickens every time that

822
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,280
Speaker 3: other safety is going to be in the box. And

823
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 3: how you know, you're throwing at the Van Jefferson down

824
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 3: the they bring in Mike Williams and you tried to

825
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,720
Speaker 3: do some of that stuff. But he just wasn't Mike Williams.

826
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 1: He wasn't the reason why he wasn't with Aaron Rodgers.

827
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 3: He wasn't. Maybe maybe he'll be better this year, a

828
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 3: year removed, another year removed from the knee injury. But

829
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 3: he wasn't that guy that he had been with the Chargers.

830
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 1: No, he definitely wasn't.

831
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 4: And while I think Pickens is very capable, I'm not

832
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 4: saying he's a j Brown. With Tannehill, he was a

833
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 4: little less than enthusiastic on some of the over middle

834
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 4: of stuff too.

835
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 1: I mean that needs a change. And yeah, well I

836
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 1: think discouraged too. Yeah, he can get get the ball

837
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,879
Speaker 1: fight over there and he's not looking there. So why

838
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: why why should I care?

839
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 6: Now if you see the other guy getting ten twelve

840
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 6: extra balls, well maybe I need to do this.

841
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 8: You don't care.

842
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: You're gonna care a lot, like you said, he was

843
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:11,240
Speaker 1: getting success.

844
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 6: And also there's no press, and I can kind of

845
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 6: cut up the middle, like because here's the thing. He

846
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 6: catched the ball in bounds, he cut to the middle.

847
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 6: That's where he knew the extra yards was going to be.

848
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 6: He didn't like being on the side.

849
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 4: I don't know if Rust did this as much, but

850
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 4: Bradshaw certainly did.

851
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: I think Ben did.

852
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 4: Brady certainly did, but Rogers through his career. I'm not

853
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 4: throwing it to you. I mean, you'll get rewarded with

854
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 4: the football or you'll get punished without it, you know,

855
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 4: Like I mean, you're gonna earn getting the ball, you know.

856
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: Davante Adams shows.

857
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 4: Up, target, target, target, target, Yeah, you're running the wrong routes.

858
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 1: Sorry, I'm not throwing you the football. And he tried

859
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 1: with Mike Williams.

860
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 6: You remember he tried and there was a critical situation.

861
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 6: I can't remember who they were playing late in the

862
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:52,879
Speaker 6: game there, yeah, down the right sideline and and he

863
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 6: messed it up and didn't run the right route, and

864
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 6: he tried to come right back to him like, hey,

865
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 6: let's get you back in this. He missed that one

866
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 6: up and he was like, nope, we're done.

867
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 4: I'm thinking more about like Picking's future motivation though. Yeah,

868
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 4: he's out there running wind sprints and not doing he's

869
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 4: supposed to do. Aaron's gonna throwing football.

870
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 6: Well if he's not blocking on the edge right what

871
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 6: it requires it. He's also he's not gonna forget that

872
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 6: now he is. I will say this King Petty in

873
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:18,839
Speaker 6: a good way. Like he he does not forget those

874
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 6: type of things. He wants everybody doing exactly what they're

875
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 6: supposed to do. Gay, real attention to detail.

876
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 4: I mean even like his presaf stuff, and I mean

877
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 4: you're a little a little bit slow on your defensive substitutions.

878
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 1: He's snapping it and get twelve guys. I mean he's

879
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 1: does all those little things so.

880
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 6: Well, yeah, he wants he wants the untimed down, he

881
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,399
Speaker 6: wants the extra play, the free ball he.

882
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 3: Loves, and then you're gonna go. And then he's shucking

883
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 3: it every time, the best that I've seen it.

884
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 1: That kind of stuff. Yeah, ask the Lions. They hated it.

885
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 3: Happy. So last night we get back. We were at

886
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 3: the league party last night to pull back the curtain. Yeah,

887
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 3: we all rode the uber back over. I get into

888
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 3: the room, I get the NFL network on and they're

889
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 3: playing back a bunch of Steeler games. And then the

890
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 3: one that was on when I got back was twenty

891
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 3: sixteen and he was twenty sixteen against the Lions when

892
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 3: Ben did the fake spike at the AB against Cowboys

893
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 3: late Yeah, against the Cowboys. I'm sorry, against the Cowboys, Lions,

894
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 3: and then you're no, it's Cowboys. Then later in the night,

895
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 3: I woke up. I left the chance thing on I'm

896
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 3: gonna wake up, and it was, uh, I see Max

897
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 3: starks Is on TV. Uh and there it was a

898
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 3: game against the Patriots and O four the four game

899
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 3: and against the Patriots.

900
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 1: I still Willie McGinnis like, is this is this just uh?

901
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 3: You know Steeler Knight on NFL the homage Knight.

902
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, God, I.

903
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 4: Got the end of that Cowboys game, or you know,

904
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 4: at least like at least the fourth quarter. And I

905
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 4: urged people just to remember to think Tomlin's so conservative.

906
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 3: They're throwing the ball all over the damn place, like

907
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,800
Speaker 3: eight two point tries in that game.

908
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 4: I mean, they're throwing the fake spike. I'm like, don't

909
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:53,760
Speaker 4: forget this version of the head coach.

910
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,280
Speaker 1: I mean, and that's the thing. And I'm like, quarterbacks matter.

911
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, quarterbacks matter.

912
00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 1: That was my biggest guy.

913
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, you want to know that that guy can accomplish

914
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 6: what you want, what you intend to and I think

915
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 6: people kind of forget that.

916
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, like Bins last year was not like he.

917
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:11,359
Speaker 3: Wasn't was it wasn't twenty sixteen.

918
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 6: And also the guys you had after you had a rookie,

919
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 6: you had mister Bisky, right, you had Mason there.

920
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 3: Now you're gonna have a little bit more restrictions on there.

921
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 3: You're gonna put the restrictor plate on those guys because

922
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 3: you know, I don't want that. I don't want my

923
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 3: my I worked for a go kart track when I

924
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 3: was in high school, and we had restrictor plates on

925
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 3: the on the go karts because we didn't want people

926
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 3: out there going the carts would go sixty. Yeah, well

927
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 3: we didn't want them going sixty, you know, so because

928
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 3: somebody they don't they're not experienced enough to drive those

929
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 3: things at sixty around that cart, around that track. So

930
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 3: but if somebody was screwing up out there, I'd take

931
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,359
Speaker 3: the restrict Okay, I'm taking it out, and I would

932
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 3: have go out and just get in front of them,

933
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:49,760
Speaker 3: slow them down.

934
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 8: All right.

935
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 3: You're not gonna bump into everybody. That's what you do.

936
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 3: You can't if you're not. If you're not experienced enough

937
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 3: to handle sixty, then I'm gonna make sure you drive

938
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,240
Speaker 3: thirty five exactly. We can still get around the track.

939
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 6: It was just like when you play a video game, right,

940
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,839
Speaker 6: you have to unlock rewards as you progress through the game, right,

941
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:08,839
Speaker 6: earn them. Yeah, I'm just not gonna give you all

942
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 6: of all of the goodies that you have to earn

943
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 6: those things. Yeah, you got to hit the little question

944
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 6: mark every once in a while, you know, and get

945
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 6: the mushroom. I mean that's and you earn that respect.

946
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 6: I mean, just like it was in any job. Right,

947
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,399
Speaker 6: You're not gonna get a promotion just because you're there.

948
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 6: It's like, let your merit earn more opportunities, more responsibility,

949
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 6: and the same thing goes. I mean early on, like

950
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 6: Russ earned that and then he showed it and then

951
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 6: you had to.

952
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:32,280
Speaker 1: Dial it back.

953
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 6: And then for Justin is Justin unlocked a little bit

954
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:36,919
Speaker 6: more came open to him, and of course he didn't

955
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 6: unlock everything, and then you know, so it's just it's

956
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 6: a comfortability. And at that point, like you said in

957
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 6: twenty sixteen, people.

958
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 1: Have been for ten years.

959
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, right, Like, yeah, there was a lot

960
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 3: of trust built up there.

961
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 1: We're good.

962
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was a lot of trust.

963
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm probably up against it.

964
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Speaker 4: But but big thing I took away from that game obviously,

965
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 4: oh how good Ben is and how different they coached

966
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 4: with him in the game, and Bell and Brown and

967
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:01,839
Speaker 4: all those things. But then I looked at the other

968
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 4: side too, and I'm like, Dak Prescott was a fourth

969
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 4: round rookie in that game, and I kind of forgot

970
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 4: how good his nest and supporting cast was.

971
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 3: Zekiel Elliott was awesome.

972
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 4: Elliot was like on pace to win the MVP at

973
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 4: that point. Ryan'son his pro ye was awesome. It does

974
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,839
Speaker 4: they had Witten. They were both really really good at

975
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,320
Speaker 4: that point, and they had Fredericson who was a great center,

976
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 4: Martin's going to the Hall of Fame, and Tyron Smith

977
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 4: before back injuries. I'm like, Dak deserves all the cred

978
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 4: in the world, but if you can drop next year's

979
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 4: quarterback into a similar situation here, you kind of might

980
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 4: see what you.

981
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Speaker 1: Saw that year.

982
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 3: It was also interesting watching stuff on it and Ryan Shazi.

983
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 1: I wish they were still rout. They're not here counting

984
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 1: on those two.

985
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of those dudes are still playing this game.

986
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 3: Those guys were young guys playing in that game and

987
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 3: they're no longer here.

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00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought.

989
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 3: Unfortunately. Anyways, let's get to a break. He is Max Starks,

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Speaker 3: that's Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to

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Speaker 3: this special edition of The Drive. We are live here

992
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Speaker 3: in Palm Beach, Florida, where the league meetings are taking place.

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Speaker 3: That's going to do it for our number one. We'll

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Speaker 3: be back with our number two right after this