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Speaker 1: Conversations on life, style, beauty and relationships. It's The Velvet's

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Speaker 1: Edge podcast with Kelly Henderson.

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Speaker 2: Master coach and human behavior specialist. Emma Dunwoodie is back.

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Speaker 3: Hi.

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Speaker 2: Emma, Hi, I'm so happy to be back.

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Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to chatting me too.

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Speaker 2: And you're actually an Australian and so last time we

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Speaker 2: were talking about the difference in our time zones, but

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Speaker 2: you're actually here in the States. You're in Texas right now.

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Speaker 2: You said it's hot.

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Speaker 3: It's hot, and I mean, I'm used to the hate.

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Speaker 3: It's great because it's winter back at home, but right, yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's probably hot here in Austin and file.

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Speaker 2: Oh gosh, yeah, it's gotten that way in Nashville too.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 2: We were just talking before the podcast because you have

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Speaker 2: been on the podcast before, like I said, and we

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Speaker 2: really kind of broke down the basics of human design.

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Speaker 2: And for anyone who hasn't listened to that podcast, I

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Speaker 2: highly suggest you listen to that one first because Emma

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Speaker 2: does a really great breakdown of the very basic things

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Speaker 2: of starting human design. But there's so many to this,

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Speaker 2: and we talk about all the different healing modalities or

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Speaker 2: ways to find your purpose, get to know yourself in

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Speaker 2: this world. Human design has become one of my favorites,

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Speaker 2: but it's still kind of hard for me to read

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Speaker 2: my chart or understand. And so you and I are

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Speaker 2: going to dive a little bit deeper into some of

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Speaker 2: those pieces of it. But I was asking you, what

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Speaker 2: is the difference actually between human Design and gene keys,

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Speaker 2: because I know they work together a lot, but I'm

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Speaker 2: not fully understanding what the difference is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's such a great question because I feel

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Speaker 3: like a lot of people are really confused. I was

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Speaker 3: really confused for the longest time because there wasn't really

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Speaker 3: like they seem to be similar, but no one really

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Speaker 3: talked about the fact that, you know, do they plug in?

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Speaker 3: Were they part of the same thing? Were they just happenstance.

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Speaker 3: So the Human Design the guy who channeled the information

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Speaker 3: and then created Human Design. When he was launching Human

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Speaker 3: Design in the UK, he had this guy, Richard Rudd,

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Speaker 3: who was already in the UK, to teach human Design

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Speaker 3: around the gates. So he actually although he and ra

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Speaker 3: got along really well, which by all reports is very odd,

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Speaker 3: and he then kind of went off and did the

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Speaker 3: gene keys. So the gen keys, they are actually representative

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Speaker 3: of what we call the gates in human design, and

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Speaker 3: they're all they all come back to the I ching

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Speaker 3: and the hexagrams of the I ching, So they all

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Speaker 3: have these similar themes. So the numbers that you see

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Speaker 3: in your chart when you look at a human design chart,

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Speaker 3: they are gates. And when you're looking at gen key's profile,

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Speaker 3: then that is called that's the genks, and they're called spheres.

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Speaker 3: Now there are similarities because each whether it's a hexagat hexagram,

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Speaker 3: gene keys, this is all information that over an extended

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Speaker 3: period of time, Richard Rudd has kind of downloaded this information.

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Speaker 3: The gen keys is very poetic. Often when you come

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Speaker 3: But for me, I think that they all work so

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Speaker 3: beautifully together. And I think the best description I've heard

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Speaker 3: They were talking about it and it's like human design

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Speaker 3: then the gene keys when they work beautifully together, they're

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Speaker 3: gen keys they're written by a poet so that there's

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Speaker 3: as a behavioral coach, the reason I love it so

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Speaker 3: So I love the journey of the gene keys. And again,

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Speaker 3: human design is something that people kind of throw themselves

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Speaker 3: I think they're absolutely perfect for each other.

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Speaker 2: So you actually use both in your work, Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 2: and for listeners. I mean we talked about this in

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Speaker 2: the first podcast, but human design really kind of incorporates astrology,

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Speaker 2: my listeners are very familiar with that, and we also

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Speaker 3: It makes so much sense, because I think one of

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Speaker 3: We don't actually know who we are. Ninety five percent

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Speaker 3: new beginnings. This is all about starting afresh. It's kind

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Speaker 3: So it's literally it almost becomes unstoppable and you're no

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Speaker 2: how my life always works. Well, yeah, it's interesting because

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and it really is, like I mean, human

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Speaker 3: to a degree, you're design right. Yes, you've got three

432
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 3: motors defined, and you've got the spleen, but you're undefined

433
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 3: with the will center, the G center, the throat, the head,

434
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:25,119
Speaker 3: and the ashna. So as a generator, you're you're probably

435
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 3: you're told like you're the energizer bunny. You have all

436
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,120
Speaker 3: this energy in the world and you can do all

437
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 3: of this and do all of that and it's consistent

438
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,920
Speaker 3: and it's always there and blah blah blah. Well that's

439
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 3: not actually true.

440
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 2: I never feel like that exactly.

441
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 3: And you don't feel like that because you only have

442
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,719
Speaker 3: four centers defined. Okay, so yes, three of them are motors,

443
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:44,159
Speaker 3: which means you have three so when there is something

444
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 3: for you to respond to, you have the energy to

445
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,440
Speaker 3: back it up. Yeah, But half the time, like half

446
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 3: of your centers are taking in, amplifying and reflecting back

447
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:57,879
Speaker 3: everybody else other people's energy, So you're processing everybody else's

448
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 3: energy through these undefined centers, which is what everyone talks

449
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 3: about is why management, sorry, why projectors are so tired

450
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,120
Speaker 3: or reflectors are so tired because they have to deal

451
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 3: with everybody else's energy. So what happens is that we

452
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 3: think because I'm the same, I'm a manifesting generator, but

453
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 3: I'm literally a human. Like when I'm on, I am

454
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 3: on and I can go for hours, but when I'm not,

455
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 3: I am out, And it's because I don't, like, I

456
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 3: don't have a defined root center. I've only got four

457
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:31,879
Speaker 3: defined centers myself, so that processing everybody else's energy is

458
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 3: really really exhausting. So once we start to understand the centers,

459
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 3: we also understand at the core of what we call

460
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 3: the not self, so where our most significant conditioning will lie.

461
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 3: So for you, it's going to be around your thinking,

462
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 3: your mental capacity, the way you ask questions, the way

463
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 3: you come up with answers. There's going to be this

464
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 3: like this fear that you don't know enough. There's potentially

465
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,359
Speaker 3: this fear that you can't get clarity. There's this sphere

466
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 3: that you can't like I just can't I just can't

467
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,640
Speaker 3: get clear on it, or I don't like people say

468
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 3: ask questions and you're like, I don't know, I don't

469
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 3: know what to ask. Yeah, does that resonate with you.

470
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, especially the clarity, because I wanting to

471
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:17,679
Speaker 2: know more and more and more like learning. I mean,

472
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 2: that's probably why I started this podcast. You know, I'm

473
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,959
Speaker 2: interviewing people like you learning every time I interview somebody

474
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 2: so and I have such a drive for that, Like

475
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 2: people sometimes are like, why are you so obsessed with that?

476
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 2: But you just explained it. Yeah.

477
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 3: Yeah. And the big thing like so for you with

478
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,679
Speaker 3: your energy right and especially having an undefined head and Ashna,

479
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 3: so number one, you can let yourself off the hook

480
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 3: for ever being certain because you're not designed to be certain.

481
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 3: You're not designed to have mental certainty. You're also not

482
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 3: as designed to think with great clarity because the way

483
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 3: you're designed is you literally have access to all the

484
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 3: thinkers in your aura. So when you are with people,

485
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 3: you're literally like they are either dropping off, you're receiving attracting.

486
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 3: You are literally being able to think like everybody else

487
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 3: around you and in the room you can kind of

488
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 3: you're an open channel. And again with the undefined headed Ashna,

489
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,679
Speaker 3: like if anyone asks you to memorize a script or

490
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 3: read off points or whatever, you're like, ah, I can't,

491
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 3: because then I forget what I meant to talk about.

492
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 3: But if someone just puts you in front of a

493
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 3: microphone and says, talk about this thing, you're like, I

494
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 3: can talk about it for days.

495
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 2: If I have like a heart connection to it, Like yeah,

496
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,919
Speaker 2: if I feel connected to it, I could go on

497
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 2: and on and on, and I'm very clear. But you're

498
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 2: so right. When it comes to the mental piece of it,

499
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 2: A lot of times I am blocked.

500
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 3: That is so, and it's not because you're blocked. It's

501
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 3: just not your superpower.

502
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 2: Okay.

503
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 3: So when it comes to your thinking, you think outside

504
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 3: the square. You can think in all sorts of directions,

505
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 3: you know, but you're more of a channel than a thinker.

506
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 3: So whenever you want to get like mental clarity on something,

507
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 3: you need to get it out of your head, you know,

508
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:09,479
Speaker 3: into onto a visa paper, into a journal, into like

509
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 3: a slide deck whatever it is. You know, like you've

510
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 3: got to get it out because that's how you'll find

511
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:15,360
Speaker 3: the clarity.

512
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 2: Because it'll just keep swirling if I keep it in

513
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:17,400
Speaker 2: my head.

514
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's because there's no there's so people who are

515
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 3: defined in the head and the ashna, they literally think

516
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 3: in processes, so they can sit in a room with

517
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 3: a bunch of people talking about moving towards a goal.

518
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 3: They've not only moved towards the goal, but they understand

519
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 3: every step that every single person in the room has

520
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 3: to take to get there. They're all wondering why people

521
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 3: don't understand what, don't see it the way they see it,

522
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 3: And it's because we're all still in the melting pot,

523
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 3: like bringing all these things together, where they're building a

524
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 3: very logical structure in their mind, so they think in

525
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 3: these pathways. So yeah, and nothing is right, wrong, good

526
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 3: or bad. It's just a difference. Yeah.

527
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 2: Well, And a perfect example of that is I really

528
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 2: struggle to I need brainstorm like I thrive off of

529
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 2: getting other people's ideas, but I really struggle in a

530
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 2: brainstorming session like where everyone's sitting at a table doing

531
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 2: it together. I really struggle, and I can never think

532
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 2: clearly or get to what I would want to do.

533
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 2: Like my solution, I have to almost take their thoughts,

534
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 2: go away on my own, sit with it process and

535
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 2: do other things. And I'm sure it's because I'm absorbing

536
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 2: so much of it.

537
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 3: So that's you've nailed it. And there's two reasons to

538
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 3: that number one, you're an emotional authority. Yeah, so emotional

539
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 3: authorities always need time for everything. So emotional authorities always

540
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 3: need time for everything, you know, So even if you

541
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 3: did have mental clarity, you'd still be like, yeah, I

542
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 3: just I still need time. I just need time. But

543
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 3: what you're talking about is you're sitting in a room

544
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 3: with a bunch of people that have lots of ideas

545
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 3: and potentially there's a number of people' mental definition. Of course,

546
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 3: you can't get clarity because it's literally like it's banging

547
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 3: in and out, like in and out.

548
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 2: And it's like I'm not even there, almost like my

549
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 2: body is there, but my brain is so overloaded in

550
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 2: those moments.

551
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's exactly how you're designed.

552
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 2: Well, that makes it, you know. This is what's so

553
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 2: great about things like this is because I always looked

554
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 2: at that as such a failure of mine in a

555
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 2: way of you know, just well, why can't I do that?

556
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 2: I see these other people doing it, and it made

557
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 2: me think maybe I'm not that creative or maybe I'm whatever.

558
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 2: But it's literally my brain would shut down, and you

559
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 2: just this is why, and this is why these kind

560
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 2: of things are great to learn about yourselves. Because there's

561
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 2: no shame in that. It's just through wiring exactly.

562
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 3: I love that, you know, I love that it really

563
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 3: all of this gives you full permission, like full permission

564
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 3: just to be you, you know, like exactly, because there

565
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 3: isn't any there's no perfect design, you know. So I

566
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 3: think when someone says, oh, what's the right relationship for

567
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 3: my design, and I'm always quick to say, there is

568
00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 3: no such thing, you know, Like the perfect design to

569
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 3: your design is the one that your strategy and authority

570
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 3: guides you to, not the one that's some expert tells you,

571
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 3: Oh well that goes well with this, Like that's the

572
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 3: whole point of human design is it's an experiment, it's

573
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 3: a journey. You're being guided, and if you learn to

574
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 3: listen to your strategy and authority, you get to know

575
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 3: how your energetic body works. Then you don't need to

576
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 3: know you don't need to know the design of anyone

577
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 3: else because you're like, I'm just going to be put

578
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 3: in the right place at the right time, with the

579
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 3: right people. So, yeah, your centers are huge, and you know,

580
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 3: like for example, in yours as well, you have an

581
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 3: undefined g center and you also have an undefined will center,

582
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 3: So the G center. Anyone who has an undefined G center, well,

583
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 3: if you do have a defined G center, it's going

584
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 3: to be you know, colored in and you're someone that

585
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 3: literally popped out going having this this inner feeling of direction,

586
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 3: like you just know I'm going in this direction I am.

587
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 3: So there's these two pieces, whereas when you've got an

588
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 3: undefined G center, you feel like you're constantly chasing your

589
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,719
Speaker 3: purpose like is it? This is it? This is it?

590
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 3: This is it? This is it? This is it? This?

591
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 3: Like it's so confusing. And then you also with the

592
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 3: G center and the will center, which is also called

593
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 3: the ego and the heart center, having both of those undefined,

594
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 3: Like one of the challenges for you is because lovability

595
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 3: sits in the G center and self worth sits in

596
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 3: the will center. So there these are two energies that

597
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 3: are not consistent for you. So these can be areas

598
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 3: that you're most susceptible to conditioning, to unresourceful beliefs, to

599
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 3: self judgment and criticism because you pick up everybody else's

600
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 3: loveability and self worth and you think it's yours and

601
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 3: it's not. And so I always say, like anyone who

602
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 3: has these two undefined, because they're also massive players when

603
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 3: we get into relationships. But we have these two undefined,

604
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 3: we really want to have as best we can daily

605
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 3: practices of supporting our loveability and our self worth, because

606
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 3: otherwise we're constantly doing things to get love and we're

607
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 3: constantly trying to prove ourselves and it's just a dead end.

608
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 2: Yes, And you know, it's so funny. I live my

609
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 2: whole life envying those people who knew what they wanted

610
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 2: to do with their life from the age of five.

611
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 2: That I say that to my friend all the time, Like, God,

612
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 2: you know, you see those creatives who just knew and

613
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 2: they always had this passion and there was no question

614
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 2: in their mind they wanted to do this. I have never, ever, ever,

615
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 2: ever had that feeling ever And and I think people

616
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 2: get surprised by that, because there's certain areas where I've

617
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 2: been successful, but I still will question them all the time,

618
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 2: or feel like is this it that thing you said?

619
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 2: Is this it?

620
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: Like?

621
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 2: Is this the right way? All of those feelings so

622
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 2: again makes me feel less crazy.

623
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I love it because I have a completely

624
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 3: undefined gue center. And the one thing that I love

625
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 3: to tell people is that I now know that I'm

626
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 3: on purpose every single day. But if you ask my

627
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 3: what my purpose is, I'm going to give you a

628
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 3: different answer every single problem. But I know the feeling.

629
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 3: That's all that matters.

630
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,439
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, Okay, And now we're getting close to running

631
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 2: out of times. I want to cover gates and channels

632
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 2: as quickly as we can. It's just just still because

633
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,359
Speaker 2: I feel like it's very important to what we've been

634
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 2: talking about.

635
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I feel like with gates and channels. The

636
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 3: thing about that is that when people first come to

637
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 3: their human design, that's probably the first thing, or not

638
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,760
Speaker 3: the first thing, but they want to go to gates

639
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 3: and channels super quickly.

640
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:30,800
Speaker 2: Yeah.

641
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 3: And the thing that I always want to say to

642
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:36,479
Speaker 3: people is just slow down. Because if you can work

643
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 3: out your type, your signature, theme and you're not self theme,

644
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 3: your strategy, your authority, your profile, and you can run

645
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 3: that experiment, then your whole life's moving towards alignment. You're

646
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 3: already doing it. That's all you really need. Then when

647
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 3: you start to understand your centers, this is when you

648
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Speaker 3: get the big mic drop moments of like, oh my god,

649
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 3: I thought I was crazy, it's actually someone else's energy,

650
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Speaker 3: so it's really powerful. Now when you get to gates

651
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 3: and channels, they are your real nuances like superpowers and

652
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 3: biggest challenges. The channels are when you see the line

653
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,760
Speaker 3: in your chart, it's the energy that's moving back and forward,

654
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Speaker 3: so it's always in motion. So these are going to

655
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Speaker 3: be really significant themes that are constantly showing up in

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Speaker 3: your life when you have them lit up. Okay, so

657
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Speaker 3: I'll give you an example with your chart. So you

658
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 3: actually have the channel of ambition. So anyone who has

659
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Speaker 3: the channel of ambition, it means that there is a

660
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Speaker 3: part of you that's constantly feeling this ambitious drive. It's

661
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 3: always happening. The challenge is that if the ego jumps in,

662
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 3: if it comes from fear, the ambition is driving I

663
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 3: need to get money, I need to. I need money,

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Speaker 3: I need to, and it comes into this unresourceful money loop.

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Speaker 3: The moment this channel goes hang on a second, my

666
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 3: ambition is about something greater than me and it attributes meaning.

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Speaker 3: Then all of a sudden, I just become financial magnets

668
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Speaker 3: because they're building something meaningful and their ambition is unstoppable.

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Speaker 3: Does that resonate with you at all?

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Speaker 2: One hundred percent because that's happened to me in fact,

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Speaker 2: in certain situations and out of fear and maybe like

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00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 2: a scarcity mindset back in my younger days, I would

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00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 2: do a lot of things. And also you kind of

674
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 2: have to at some places of your life, you know,

675
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 2: like their survival as well. We need a roof over

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Speaker 2: our head and food on the table. But I would

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00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:37,760
Speaker 2: find myself in certain situations that would end up blowing

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Speaker 2: up in my face in a way because they were

679
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 2: guided from that place of fear. Like it was never

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Speaker 2: it's never fully felt like I've been. I've never been

681
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Speaker 2: a lazy person. I've always been very driven. But I

682
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 2: do find now that I'm observing where it can't just

683
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Speaker 2: be drive to have drive, like it can't be driven

684
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Speaker 2: just to be driven. It has to be very guided

685
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 2: and like heart connected for me if it going to

686
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Speaker 2: have the long standing run in my life.

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Speaker 3: I love that. And that's exactly what this channel is

688
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 3: all about. So this is an energy that's always always

689
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,800
Speaker 3: working in you. You know, you've also got the thirty

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Speaker 3: four to fifty seven, which is all about it's like

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Speaker 3: power to intuition. So it's really like your your intuition

692
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,720
Speaker 3: is plugged into the most powerful gait in the design.

693
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Speaker 3: So your intuition is something that's incredibly powerful within you,

694
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Speaker 3: and it's super important that you know again, it's on

695
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 3: all the time. So learning to listen to the subtle

696
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 3: energy of the spleen of the intuition and the instinct,

697
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 3: because it's going to be a contributor to all the

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00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,240
Speaker 3: other things that are going Because obviously you're an emotional authority,

699
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 3: but you also and you also have a defined sacral

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Speaker 3: and you've got this spleen that's connected to the you know,

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Speaker 3: the thirty four. So there's so much power in your

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Speaker 3: intuition and all your authority. Does that resonate?

703
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:57,800
Speaker 2: It? Does?

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Speaker 1: How do you know?

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Speaker 2: Because you're talking about the undefined pieces earlier, And like

706
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,439
Speaker 2: when I'm around people absorbing so much. So like if

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Speaker 2: I find with my intuition, you know, I do have

708
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Speaker 2: to get quiet with myself and I do kind of

709
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Speaker 2: have to be not around others often to fully tap

710
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,479
Speaker 2: into what is mine? Does that make sense?

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Speaker 3: So?

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Speaker 1: Is that?

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Speaker 3: So? I love this question? Right? So technically, when you

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Speaker 3: build the muscle of knowing what your energy is and

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Speaker 3: what someone else's energy is, you will be able to

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Speaker 3: hear your intuition literally in times square on the busiest day.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that is starting to happen, Like, there's a I

718
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Speaker 2: love that you said when you define your energy versus others.

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Speaker 2: There is something in my body that's starting to recognize that.

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Speaker 3: And that's the noise for you when it comes to intuition.

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Speaker 3: The noise for you is when you think other people's

722
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 3: energy is yours. Yes, then and you're like, oh, it's

723
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Speaker 3: like you're letting it in. You're letting it in your aura.

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Speaker 3: So one of the things that's super cool is once

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00:38:55,880 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 3: you understand your undefined centers and you literally practice bodies,

726
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 3: so you body scan on your own and then just

727
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 3: notice whenever people come in and out of your aura,

728
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 3: how different you feel. And you can experiment with one

729
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 3: center at a time, and all of a sudden, like

730
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Speaker 3: you're let's say you did this with your will center,

731
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Speaker 3: all of a sudden you're feeling low self worth. Wow,

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Speaker 3: this is the person that's with me. This is not me.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I see okay, So all of.

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Speaker 3: A sudden you start to realize, like, I know how

735
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 3: I feel in my aura on my own, yes, and

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Speaker 3: that it changes as soon as someone else comes into

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Speaker 3: my aura. This is not me, this is them. I'm

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Speaker 3: feeling their energy. It's like one of my classics is

739
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 3: because I've got undefined headed and Ashna as well. So

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Speaker 3: I consider on a plane and I'm fine with flying.

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Speaker 3: I have no fear, no nothing, and all of a sudden,

742
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Speaker 3: I'm seeing images of the plane like burst into flames

743
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,439
Speaker 3: or I'm hearing all of this like oh my god.

744
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 3: And I'm like, but you used to freak me.

745
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,839
Speaker 2: Out, well, right, why did it pop in your head?

746
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,240
Speaker 3: Yeah? Right? But then now I know it's just everybody

747
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 3: else's me energy around me. It's not my mental energy.

748
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Speaker 3: So I'll ground into my own energy and my own

749
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Speaker 3: energy like my sacreds, like we're sweet, we are sweet,

750
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Speaker 3: nothing to worry about. So that's the big trick with

751
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Speaker 3: you really amping up your intuition, because it's already super powerful.

752
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 3: It's just going to be discerning your energy to other

753
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 3: people's energy. And once you can let other people's energy

754
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 3: flow through you, you won't even know it's there.

755
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Speaker 2: Okay, so that's the channels. What did you say about

756
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Speaker 2: the gates were.

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Speaker 3: The so the gates, Yeah, the gates are all the

758
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 3: numbers that you're going to see on your chart, and

759
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 3: they're the ones that have all the planets, and depending

760
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,439
Speaker 3: on what planet they fall in, there's a theme. So

761
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:43,240
Speaker 3: if each gate is our teacher, because each gate has

762
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 3: a specific yeah, lesson to teachers, but superpower and shadow,

763
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 3: then depending on what planet it's in on the side

764
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Speaker 3: of your chart, that's the classroom. So you're going into

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Speaker 3: a bunch of different classrooms to learn about this particular energy.

766
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Speaker 3: So what that might look like is, for example, I'll

767
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 3: use my chart because I know it off the top

768
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 3: of my head a large part of what brings me,

769
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Speaker 3: how I shine in the world, My radiance, my health,

770
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 3: my vitality is also one of the great lessons I'm

771
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 3: learning in this lifetime because it turns up in my

772
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 3: personality son, and it turns out in my sorry, my

773
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 3: design son, and my design North note. So it turns

774
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 3: up a couple of times because I've got to learn

775
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 3: it from different directions. So when we start to play

776
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 3: with our gates, then we really start to see our patterns,

777
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 3: the story of our life effectively, our purpose, our superpowers,

778
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 3: our challenges, everything. It's like that this is the micro

779
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 3: of our design.

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Speaker 2: Interesting, I feel like this is one of those things

781
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 2: like you'll never ever learn everything you can learn about

782
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 2: human design. It's a constantly evolving situation, or there's always

783
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 2: somewhere deeper you can go with it. So you do

784
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 2: have a podcast as well, the Human Design Podcast, and

785
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 2: with Emma Dunwoody. I will put the link of that

786
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 2: in the description of this podcast. But you cover all

787
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Speaker 2: the things about human design and any sort of conversation

788
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 2: that could be coming up about that. So if you

789
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 2: guys have more questions about this, that is a great resource.

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Speaker 2: You also now have a book, So can you tell

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Speaker 2: us a little bit about the book.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So the big thing about the book really and

793
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 3: again I followed, just followed my strategy and authority. It

794
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 3: was the most serendipitous experience of my life. It could

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00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 3: not have been easier. And the book itself, you know,

796
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 3: I have this mission. I want to take human design

797
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Speaker 3: mainstream and what that means is it has to be easy.

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Speaker 3: It has to be easy and simple for people to

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00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 3: integrate into their life every day. So again, I'm a

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Speaker 3: three to five profile, so it makes perfect sense that

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00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 3: I've created a book that has simplified down this really

802
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 3: complicated knowledge and modality into a form that you can

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00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 3: just It's like, if you just get the book, you know,

804
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 3: download your design, you can get it on our website.

805
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 3: Then you can run every experiment with all the macro

806
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,280
Speaker 3: of your design and integrate it into your everyday life

807
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 3: and start to watch as your life just becomes more

808
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 3: and more aligned. So yeah, it was my mission that

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00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 3: I wanted something that was accessible not just for those

810
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 3: that are already seeking, but for those that are like

811
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Speaker 3: curious and maybe not on their journey like so many

812
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 3: of us are in our worlds. So yeah, it's this

813
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 3: beautiful little buddy that you can experiment with and integrate

814
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 3: your design.

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Speaker 2: And the book is called Human Design Made Simple, which

816
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 2: is just like, yes, we need that, because, like I said,

817
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Speaker 2: it can look a little bit like a foreign language

818
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 2: when you first start getting into it, So don't be intimidated.

819
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Speaker 2: Get the book, get your chart, and have a little

820
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 2: coffee and sit down and learn about it. Emma, thank

821
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 2: you so much. I love having you on. You're such

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Speaker 2: a fun guess for me, so thank you so much

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00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 2: for being here. I will put all of Emma's contact

824
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,919
Speaker 2: info in the description of the podcast so you guys

825
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 2: can go keep up with her journey. Listen to the

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Speaker 2: podcast and go get the book.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much. I just love it. Thank you

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Speaker 3: so much for having me.

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Speaker 2: Thank you guys for listening.

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