1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: Get up, getto boys. It's back and reoaded all in 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: your mind. Yeah, not deep throating. This is for the streets, 3 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 1: the reel, the railroaded, the distant franchise, the truth, the scapegoating, 4 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: and they ain't knowing we speak the truth, so they 5 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: ain't quoted because we wrote it. The North South East 6 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 1: coat is the gv MY for keeping your head bobbing. 7 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: It ain't no stopping and wants to be trying to 8 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: head by then the system is so corrupt they throw 9 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: the rock out their heads and then blame it on us. 10 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: Don't get it twisted on code and me and danceing 11 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:47,480 Speaker 1: for no buttament biscuits. It's Willie d y'all, scarfaces and recovery. Collectively, 12 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: we are the ghetto boys, reloaded with another episode of 13 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: information and instructions to help you navigate through this wild, crazy, 14 00:00:54,000 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: beautiful world. In the studio, I guess the great then conquerable. 15 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: Tamika Foster Raymond, thank you for having me. How are 16 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: you hey? I'm trying to be expended issue you are 17 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: or a quite interesting person? Uh, you got your hands full. 18 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: Every time I look up, You've got something else going on, 19 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: and it's not just anything it's big stuff you've got 20 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: going on. Um, I noticed, uh that you have a 21 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: somewhat of a connection with a good friend of mine, 22 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: Houston's own, Eric Carr. How did you? And Eric caught me? 23 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: Eric was actually, um gonna be my father in law 24 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: for a while. Yeah, he was dating my ex husband's mom. 25 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: It's a funny way that we met. He's now my 26 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: ex husband. At the time, he looked, yeah, yeah, so 27 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: Eric is a m Really he was a really great supporter. Um. 28 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: He just always kind of had my back. I think 29 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: we you know, real recognized as real, and he kind 30 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 1: of saw my spirit and you know, and I saw 31 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: his I thought he was very cool, so funny. He's 32 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 1: a hilarious any funny. So I took to him. He's 33 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: his big brother. He's definitely a big brother. He always 34 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: looked out right right right. You grew up in Oakland. 35 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: I love Oakland. I love the people. It's something about 36 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: the people in Oakland. It's a certain sense of pride 37 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 1: that comes with that. You know that that whole Bay 38 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: area really you know, too short, it's a cool real 39 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: super cool dude. You know, uh e forty did you 40 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 1: know those guys personally? Well, let me tell you, too Short, 41 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: we used to write the same bus to school. I 42 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:49,839 Speaker 1: mean he went to a different school, but it would 43 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: stopped at his stop and he would be on the 44 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: back of the bus and when people would come on, 45 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: he's the guy that would join on everybody. Everybody on 46 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 1: the bus. He had jokes, you know, he'd rap a bottom, 47 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 1: he free style talk about him. Yeah, he would talk 48 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: about girls on the bus city bus to school. Bus 49 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,239 Speaker 1: city bus. We used to be on the bust seven. 50 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: We get fifty seven and I used to take it 51 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: nice to remember, don't when he be on there talking 52 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: loud or rapping. I would just hide because I said, 53 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: don't get on me. I was skinny, you talk about me. 54 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: So yeah, if too Short is definitely that's my buddy. 55 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 1: We're cool. Still, Yeah, that's that's kind of odd to 56 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: me to think of Short like that, because Short is 57 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 1: kind of reserved duty. Anytime you see him out, he's reserved. 58 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: But he's a rapper that talks mad shit right right right? 59 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: Did you know mac jac mcdrey. I did not know him. 60 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: I didn't know. I feel like I feel like he 61 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: must have been younger. Yeah, I didn't know. I know 62 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: of him, but I don't know. Yeah, he's Valeto though 63 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: I think I think he's from Yeah, he's not open Yeah, okay, 64 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: right right. I'm Oakland through and through town business, town, business, period. 65 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: And Oakland has a history of rod It's like like activists, 66 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: that's you know, very very strong activists, and which brings 67 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: me to something that I that's really dear to my heart, philanthropy, 68 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: you know, and that's something that you're involved with heavily. 69 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: You are a co founder of Oakland Oakland Natives Gives Yes, 70 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 1: Oakland Natives Gives back. Um, my partners and I thought 71 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 1: it was a huge problem. Truancy is a big problem 72 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: in the city of Oakland. Um, the graduation rates and 73 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 1: you know, keeping butts in in there in classrooms instead 74 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: of on the street, big, big important thing for us. 75 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: And um every year we do like giveaways. We give 76 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 1: away thousands, I mean like ten thousand backpacks and school supplies, 77 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: bus passes, choose everything, everything to get them prepared for 78 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:53,359 Speaker 1: the first week, first days of school, no excuses. And 79 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: how long have you been doing that? This is our 80 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: fourteenth year. Four year. Yeah, we we've missed a year 81 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: of the giveaway because of the pandemic but um, Oakland 82 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: Natives is an important cause. Usually this is something that 83 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 1: I would do towards the end of the show, but 84 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: I want to do that right now. How do people 85 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 1: get involved with your foundation, especially people that want to contribute, Actually, 86 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: that would be great. Um Oakland Natives is um, like 87 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: I says, if I one C three based out of 88 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 1: Oakland and they just can go to Oakland Natives Gifts 89 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 1: back and they can definitely make donations that way, right, 90 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 1: So tell me to Maka, how was it growing up 91 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: in Oakland? Who is to make a growing up? And 92 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 1: and how do you dream? How do you aspire to 93 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: become who you are today? What? What? What put you 94 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 1: on that path? You know? I always liken myself to 95 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: a concrete rose, and that means that the environment around me, 96 00:05:55,520 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: while it wasn't ideal, Um, I saw more for myself always. 97 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:05,919 Speaker 1: I had my father's family. Um they were I guess 98 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: I would say they were very classy. They are very classy. Um. 99 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 1: I have a aunt who's almost ninety eight who got 100 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: me into fashion at an early age. She owned a 101 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 1: boutique near the lake, and UM I worked in her boutique. UM, 102 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 1: my mother's side, they're classy as well, but they were 103 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 1: more southern. You know, that's your your grassroots, your you know, 104 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 1: your your your Baptist background and all that stuff. That's 105 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: where that comes from my mother's side. Um, so I 106 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: had I think I was very grounded, um just from 107 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:39,479 Speaker 1: a goud perspective that was first and then just kind 108 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: of refined part. I think came more from my I'd say, 109 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 1: from my father's side. And that's where my fashion background 110 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: comes from. Right now, you attended the Fashion Institute of 111 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: Design and Merchandise. You're not just a stylist. You are 112 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: a technician, Like this is what you do for real. 113 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 1: You know, like there's a lot of people that are 114 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: stylis and they're like, man, I got styled, you know, uh, 115 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: oh con dress, you let me dress you what? But 116 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: they don't really have the And I'm not saying it's 117 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: a requirement, right, but to actually go to school for it, 118 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: to study it, you know, it puts you on a 119 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: different kind of level in my opinion. You know, like 120 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: it's it's kind of like somebody that go to that 121 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: that learns music, uh naturally versus someone who actually goes 122 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: to school and studies the art of music, right, it's 123 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: a little different, and you know, today, God is hard. 124 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 1: I don't like to call myself a stylist anymore because 125 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: it's it's a term that has been just kind of 126 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: they've kind of used it and kind of ruined it. Yeah, 127 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: so everybody, you know, everybody that worked in the mall 128 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: for three days will come out like I'm a stylist. 129 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: Just like it's a little harder than that. You have 130 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: to kind of get into the psychology of the artists, 131 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: you know who, who are their demographic who are they 132 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: trying to you know, what are they trying to portray? 133 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: You know, what don't they like? You know, there's a 134 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: lot of questions I asked. Before I shop for a 135 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: person or before I design something for a person, I 136 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: look at their body language, because you don't want clothes 137 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: on a person that's wearing them. You want a person 138 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: to wear the clothes and you don't want to close 139 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: the overpower their personality. Yeah, there's more to it than 140 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: just buying clothes and look good. And I noticed that's 141 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: what everyone's doing. Okay, okay, okay. Uh client list very impressive. 142 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:41,559 Speaker 1: Petdal Libel nas jay Z, Lauren Hill, who you eventually married, 143 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 1: How did that come to be? How do you how 144 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 1: do you go from styling for somebody, dressing somebody to 145 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: actually forging a romantic relationship because you know, as a stylist, 146 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: you're a bit of a psychologist, you kind of because 147 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: you're getting into the heads of your client and your 148 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 1: Sometimes they talk to you about stuff that's going on 149 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: in their life. You know, you become a friend. You 150 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: really my clients, most of them will tell you, I'm 151 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: very opinionated. Um, I'm pretty wise, I'd say I think. 152 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: They'd say um, and they would run. They bounced different 153 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 1: things off of me that's going on in their life 154 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: or in their business. They talked to me about it. Um. 155 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: So in addition to styling, they start to talk to me, 156 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: you know, and say, you know, I'm going through this, 157 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: or like you know, in our case, we talked about 158 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: our friendship, you know, just different people were dating, or 159 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: my marriage when I was married at the time. So yeah, 160 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: we became friends best friends, right, and then at one 161 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 1: point it moves from a working relationship to a intimate 162 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 1: and intimate relations romantic, well romantic and then at some 163 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: point intimate. But that ain't that that goes what I say. 164 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: We got to talk about all. But but at what point, 165 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: who says, hey, I want more? Who does that? First? 166 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: You know, I was, I was UM in a shaky 167 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,199 Speaker 1: marital situation. I was about to break up my husband 168 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: and I was talking to him about it, and he 169 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: was like, you gotta get counseling. He was encouraging me 170 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:19,839 Speaker 1: not to break up. And once it was really finally over, 171 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: he was like, if you're serious and you really and 172 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: you're not living with him anymore, and you're gonna go 173 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 1: on about your way, we're gonna go out. And actually, 174 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: like really, you know, I thought he was a little 175 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: young and he had, you know, obviously some growing to do. 176 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: He was a little annoying as a client at times, UM, 177 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:37,959 Speaker 1: and I took him up on you know, I took 178 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: him up on offer, and we went out. We went 179 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 1: on a vacation and then it just turned into first 180 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: date was a vacation kind of Look, our first real 181 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: date was a vacation. I mean we traveled. I mean 182 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 1: obviously we were on tour and stuff, so we were 183 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: together a little bit more than vacation. But our first official, 184 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 1: like we're gonna try to do this kind of date 185 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: was a vacation, went to ask him, So, let's back 186 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:04,719 Speaker 1: up a little bit, how do you enter into the 187 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: fashion world like and start I know you went to 188 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 1: school and everything, but how do you transition and start 189 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: getting paid to stop? Um? I was on I was young, 190 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: I was living in l A. And I was kind 191 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: of on the club scene, just kind of hanging out, 192 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: you know, doing a normal Saturday night, Friday night parties 193 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 1: at the Palladium and wherever, and um, you know you 194 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:28,719 Speaker 1: always see the same group of guys and girls when 195 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: you go out. And there was a guy named Todd 196 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: Russo he Um, I was working for Michael Bivins. And 197 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: when you when you say palladium, which l L because 198 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 1: you know we have a palladium in Houston, wasn't you know? 199 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: I asked, was better? But go ahead? You know, got 200 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:51,319 Speaker 1: l A l A palladium. Um. So we would go 201 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: out to the clubs in l A and be able 202 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:55,559 Speaker 1: to that's when stuff was open late, and go to 203 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: Larry Parker's hanging out on Beverly Drive. Larry Parkers was 204 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: spot and so anyway he would say, man, I love 205 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 1: your style, like just my regular party style like this 206 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 1: was Todd. So Todd worked for Michael Bivns, which he 207 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 1: had a label called bif ten Records, in a group 208 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: called Subways seven oh two. He hired me to style them, 209 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 1: and so he said, we have a video coming up, 210 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: a new new group, and I want you to put 211 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: your whole style on these girls. And I was like, 212 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 1: how do I do that? How does one going about that? 213 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: So I, um, I just went shopping and I met 214 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: I met with the girls. They drove from Vegas. They 215 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 1: were called seven o two. They came to l A 216 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: and I met with them. And I didn't know the 217 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: first thing about styling per se, but I knew how 218 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: to dress someone like myself. And I met with the 219 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: girls and they had me. They flew me to New 220 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: York and I just thought, you guys are gonna pay 221 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: me to do something I would do for free. And 222 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: I always say when you, when I speak to children 223 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: and young people, I say, always choose a career you 224 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: do for free, and then you never work a day 225 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 1: in your life. So um, they flew me to New York. 226 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 1: That was my first time in New York. And I 227 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: did a video called This Little Game We Play that 228 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 1: was Subway in seven o two. His first video and um. 229 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: I ended up doing their clothing in their makeup because 230 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 1: they had a makeup artist and the girls came in. 231 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: It was like, we hate our makeup. Oh this is horrible. 232 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 1: Was their first video, and it was my first video, 233 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,199 Speaker 1: and I was like, don't worry, don't cry. I got 234 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: you and I fixed their little makeup and they were 235 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: happy and we shot the video and it came out 236 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 1: and word of mouth. It was word of mouth through motown. 237 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: I started doing like Eric read em c Brains. I 238 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: styled a lot of their artists, and then it went 239 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: over to Warner Brothers and I started doing something for 240 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: the people and Eric Bonet and all those new artists 241 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 1: back then, and just word of mouth. It was like 242 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 1: a snowball effect. Then I took me over the m 243 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:47,439 Speaker 1: c A. Then Little Silas hired me to do Jesse Powell, 244 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 1: and then I started doing Patti LaBelle and then my 245 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:52,679 Speaker 1: clients just went up and up and up, and then 246 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: Lauren Hill, you know, and it went on and it 247 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:57,959 Speaker 1: was a snowball. I started working with everybody shock a 248 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: con and at what point you get to to to 249 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: where you say, I'm not even oppressed with this anymore, 250 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: you know. I can style anybody, you know, because in 251 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: the beginning, I'm sure like you, all of these people 252 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: that you normally see on television, you know, you're right 253 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 1: there having conversations with them, and you're shopping for them, 254 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: you're talking to them, you're you're styling them, and you know, 255 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: you you know, you're right there, you know, on their level. 256 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: And at some point, you know, you become to Meka Foster, 257 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: you become your everybody's looking at Tamika right at what 258 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: point did you ever get to that point where you saying, 259 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: you know, hey, uh, I need to you know, push 260 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: my brand more now, you know, because it's you know, 261 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: I mean, it's still a struggle. Um. Now, I'm very 262 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: personal in an intimate setting or like a dinner with 263 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: my friends, but I never wanted to be in front 264 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: of the camera. Um, this is a nervous even now, 265 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: Like I'm I'm a little nervous, like like I'm just 266 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: nervous in front of the camera. I don't think this 267 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: is really where I'm supposed to be in front of 268 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: the camera. But um, I always said I need to 269 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: do my own clothing line. I felt like I was, 270 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: um kind of wasting so many designs you know, people say, hey, 271 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: design me a look for my video or or like 272 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: you know, and Lauren and the Fuji's, Hey do our 273 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: tour designed the looks for that. And I would make 274 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: all these nice outfits for an award show, and I 275 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: was like, God, I could have produced, mass produced these 276 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: and made a million of these and made millions of dollars. 277 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: But that's I never thought pushed myself as far as 278 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: being in front of the scene. I always wanted to 279 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: be behind the scenes. But you have your own line now. 280 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: I have Eli Kish and I have Eli Kish is 281 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: my son that passed away. His name is Kyle Ishmael, 282 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: so Eli Kish is a play on his name, on 283 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 1: the words and the letters of his name and some 284 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: loungewere when we all got stuck in the house during 285 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: the pandemic, I said, I need to make clothes at 286 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: are transitional, Like you can just be at home doing 287 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: zoom calls and then if someone wants to go to 288 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: dinner or you need to run and go get some 289 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: toilet paper during the shortage, you have on a cute 290 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: dress or something you can just kind of run out. 291 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: So I made a lady's um kind of Loungewere Um 292 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: collection and then UM I have UM Cult de Jore, 293 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: which are these military inspired jackets, their vintage and they're 294 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: all adorned with patches and everything, and so um I 295 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: kind of have two small boutique lines that I'm I'm 296 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: happy doing that. How do you want to take that? 297 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: You know, I don't really wish to be in boutiques 298 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: or like major department stores. I kind of like it 299 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: being um a small line. I like. I like exclusivity, 300 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 1: so I like things that are not easy to obtain. 301 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: I don't want to see every girl walking down the 302 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: street and what I have, so um Eli Kish I 303 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: like for it to be small, but I'd like for 304 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: it to grow, go into more collections, more seasons. Yeah, 305 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: you have this uh animation series that was also named 306 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: after Kyle. You're determined to keep his name alive, aren't you. Yeah, 307 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 1: You're you're determined. You know, it's it's beautiful to see 308 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 1: that type of love coming from a mother, you know. Um, 309 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 1: you know it's one thing too to have that his 310 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 1: memories to yourself, and you said, no, I'm gonna share 311 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 1: with the world. You know, I'm gonna make sure that 312 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: the world no who this boy was, you know, like 313 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 1: he was special. And I saw an interview where you 314 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: he was talking about him, and I think it was 315 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: on the on Tamras show Tamra Hall, and you said 316 00:17:56,600 --> 00:18:01,719 Speaker 1: that he had fulfilled this kind track. So to speak 317 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 1: with the world, can you explaind on that. I believe 318 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: that from the time we're born, from a time we're born, 319 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 1: God already hasn't written what's going to happen in our lives. 320 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,959 Speaker 1: I think you know, from the time I came from 321 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: my mother's womb, I was gonna eventually do all the 322 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: things I did. I was gonna work in fashion, I 323 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: was gonna love style. I was gonna be probably the 324 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 1: spirit animal of my aunt Sadie, which I think I am. 325 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: She's ve um. And God knows what I'm gonna die. 326 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: He already knows. I don't know. We don't know. So 327 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:44,879 Speaker 1: I feel that our lives are predestined. And I think 328 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: because I believe that, I believe that about everybody. The 329 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 1: same goals. From my son Kyle his time, he had 330 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: eleven years on this planet, um and something you know, 331 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: of course, I vacillate with my ideas about that. UM. 332 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 1: Sometimes I say, if just this hadn't happened differently, This 333 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 1: hadn't happened differently, he'd still be here. But my faith 334 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 1: tells me no. Had he been with me, we could 335 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: have been at home, but ceiling could have fallen in. 336 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 1: If it was his time to go, I think he 337 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 1: was gonna go. So when I say he filled a contract, 338 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 1: I hate. I hate that it happened at age eleven. 339 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: I hate it. I cried. I cried on the plane 340 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 1: on the way here, listening to a song Beyonce. I 341 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 1: was here. I listened to that song and I'll break down. Um, 342 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:33,120 Speaker 1: but I believe that to be true. So that has 343 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 1: given me comfort that he's made an impact. But I 344 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:39,199 Speaker 1: just feel that there was things he wanted to do. 345 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: He said it very distinctly to me. I want to 346 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 1: be an actor. I want to be on Nickelodeon. I 347 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: want to be on Disney. I want to be on TV. Mom. 348 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 1: He said that to me before he passed. So it's 349 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 1: my honor, it's my duty to see it come to fruition. Um. 350 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: I think that he wanted he wanted an animal, he 351 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 1: wanted to be in animation. You wanted to be on cartoons, 352 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 1: or you wanted to be on a television show. So 353 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: I'm going to create one, right, right, our lives are predestined, 354 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 1: our fate has already been decided. Well, we're gonna be 355 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:17,919 Speaker 1: what we're gonna do. It's already in God's hands. Your words, 356 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 1: that's exactly right. I heard that. I was like, this 357 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: woman is something else. Man. I like her. I like 358 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 1: your spirit. You got a good spirit. Thank you. That's good. 359 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 1: That's good. And at you. But if I had a 360 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: mama like that, I ain't gonna ain't gonna do that. 361 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 1: I do don't do that, an don't do it. But 362 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: but you know, it took time for me to learn 363 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 1: to be this person. Yeah, that's that's something else to 364 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: see that, see that type of Twenty years ago, I 365 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,239 Speaker 1: would have not said this. I would have been mad 366 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 1: at the world. Um. When I started writing, I was mad. 367 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 1: I was so angry. Um. I started writing my book 368 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 1: of Somewhat as a diary, just kind of journaling with 369 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: how I was feeling about different stuff and the space 370 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,199 Speaker 1: I was in when I started writing it. Oh, I 371 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,439 Speaker 1: was mad at the world. I was blaming everybody in 372 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: the book. My words were just mad and it was 373 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 1: ship and damn and I was cursing, and I was 374 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: amiss and I put it down. And and also being 375 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,679 Speaker 1: from Oakland, you know we lived by a kind of 376 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 1: a street code, right, So street code until you shot 377 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: somebody before you started writing. I had the potential. I 378 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: definitely had it in me to do so, No, I 379 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: did not, right, that's my boy, Swayze is my homie. 380 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: But um, no, street code is we don't tell. I 381 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 1: don't care what happens around us, what we see. We 382 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: keep our mouths closed. So it's kind of a really 383 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,679 Speaker 1: dumb and backwards mentality because you victims just don't. They 384 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,439 Speaker 1: just stay victims. They don't get to talk about it. 385 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: They don't tell. So I wrote things down and I 386 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 1: was like, nope, nope, no, we're not gonna do that. 387 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,719 Speaker 1: So I stopped writing. And then when my unpassed two 388 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: years later, after my divorce and everything, I started writing again, 389 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: just my feelings about what happened to him and just 390 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,880 Speaker 1: mad at God. So the book originally was called Mad 391 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: at God. That's how mad it was. Now it's a 392 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 1: chapter in my book. We got a chapter when I 393 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: realized I wasn't mad enough for a whole book. I 394 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 1: wasn't mad. How can you write twenty chapter mad at God, 395 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: mess around, lightning strikes, like you give me that thing? 396 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: Mad God is still good all the time. So no, 397 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 1: So um, I do have a chapter called mad at God, 398 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: and I think a lot of people will relate to 399 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: it because we've all been mad at him about different 400 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: things that happened in our lives, and we asked God 401 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: like why you know, why? Why the kids over there? 402 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 1: Why did he allow this to happen to kids? Why 403 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 1: do you let my nights aunt get cancer? Why do 404 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 1: you know? Things like that? So, um, it's interesting. I 405 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,439 Speaker 1: go through a lot of ebbs and flows different. Life is, 406 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 1: life is. Life is a beautiful thing though. All in all, 407 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 1: I lost my mother. I lost my son. That's the 408 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: worst thing I think any mother or any parents could 409 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: ever do, is bury their child. Because it's not supposed 410 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 1: to happen in that order, right, Yeah, it's out of 411 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: order for sure. Yeah. I can definitely relate to that 412 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 1: chapter mad at God, because I questioned God, I mean 413 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: heavily when my godfather died. My godfather was a Baptist 414 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 1: preacher and he and his wife died in a fire 415 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:35,640 Speaker 1: house fire. My grandmother died like that, My grandmother died 416 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 1: like that, and she was the most god fearing. Yeah. Yeah, 417 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: when that happened, that was so horrific. It threw me off. 418 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 1: It threw all everything. It just questioned everything that I 419 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: thought I knew about, you know, God and my my 420 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: spirit and everything. It just it shook me to my 421 00:23:56,200 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 1: core to see such great people died like in such 422 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 1: a tragic way. I mean, these are people who the 423 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 1: community was taken care of by. These are people who 424 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 1: never knew no. They couldn't say no to anybody. Everybody 425 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:22,159 Speaker 1: came to them for assistance. Uh, and you know, to 426 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 1: see them die like that, I was like, man, hey, man, 427 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 1: So I understand mad at God. Absolutely absolutely. Listen. My grandmother, 428 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 1: my father's mother, my father's mother and sister died in 429 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: a house fire. I lived with my grandmother when I 430 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: was young, and she was a Jehoah's witness and she 431 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 1: was very if you know anything about Jehoa's witnesses. Besides 432 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 1: for the fact that we used to get avoided, people 433 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,959 Speaker 1: hide under the couches when we knocked on the door. 434 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 1: But aside from that, it's a very um it's very 435 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: disciplined related. So you have to be very convicted to 436 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: be a Jehoa's witness. You don't celebrate all these pagan holidays, 437 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: and you don't go and buy a bunch of stuff 438 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 1: for Christmas, and you don't buy a tree in YadA, YadA, YadA. 439 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: So my grandmother was a devout Jehoa's witness and she 440 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 1: died in the fire. I couldn't believe it. In my aunt. 441 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,159 Speaker 1: She died trying to save my aunt in the in 442 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: the house fire. I thought there couldn't be a god. 443 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 1: Somebody worshiped God as much. I was like, how is 444 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: that possible. That's how my godfather died. He died trying 445 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 1: to save his wife. They died that way, both of them. 446 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: I didn't know that. Yeah, they were in the house 447 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: and you know that was a space heater and it 448 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 1: was it was a gas space heater and it caught 449 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: on fire, and you know, it took her out first, 450 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 1: and you know, it started burning in her room first, 451 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,120 Speaker 1: and then he went in and try to save her, 452 00:25:55,520 --> 00:26:02,360 Speaker 1: and you know he got him. You know. So yeah, man, 453 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: you were done. You were like this, it's no God, 454 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 1: there's no way. I know. Absolutely it was their time. Yeah, 455 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: well they had fulfilled it was their time, see and 456 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: see and see. And I hear people say that a lot, 457 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: and it's just for me, like, I just feel like 458 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 1: that perhaps if you die of old age, maybe it 459 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: was your time. This is my thinking. And I know 460 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: everybody got their thing. And because I hear people all 461 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,400 Speaker 1: the time say, well, you know, man, you know it's 462 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: gonna happen. It's gonna happen. You know, we already got 463 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 1: our moment. We are we already, all of us already 464 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: got a time. I feel like, yeah, we're all gonna 465 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 1: die and we got a time. But I do believe 466 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: that there are some things you can do. The Russian frenchness. 467 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: If a train is coming on the track and that 468 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 1: train is going and the arms are coming down, the 469 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 1: guard arms are coming down, and you still decide that 470 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: you're going to try to beat that train and that 471 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 1: train smash your ass to smoother rings. You know, wasn't 472 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: your time to die? Or did you rush it? You know? 473 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: If you if you had a corner store and you 474 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: see the you know, the local mafia, your boss's mother 475 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: inside of the store, and your cuss out. You know 476 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, wasn't your time? You know? Or did you? Yeah? 477 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 1: Did you expedity? You know, did you rush it? So 478 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 1: I just believe that there are some things that we 479 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 1: can do to rush death. Uh, But you know, overall, 480 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 1: I guess you know that is a There is a time, 481 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 1: and you know for all of us, and we all 482 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: got an expiration, and it's important to know that we're 483 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,479 Speaker 1: here temporarily, you know. I'll tell you what though, as 484 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 1: a mother who lost a child, it's kind of what 485 00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: gets me through, you know what I mean. If I 486 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: were to just think about it, I'd be mad again. 487 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: It would be another book I would write cussing out 488 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 1: the guy that ran into my son. But if I 489 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 1: don't live in the spirit of forgiveness, I'd be angry 490 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 1: about so much. So in order to remain in a 491 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 1: beautiful state, which my book is called, here I stand 492 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 1: in a beautiful state, I have to kind of release 493 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 1: things and I have to Yeah, I have to just 494 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,199 Speaker 1: go back because you have two states of being. You 495 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: can you can be in a suffering state or a 496 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 1: beautiful state. There's only two states. There's no third state. 497 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 1: You can suffer and that means be mad, hold resentment, anger, 498 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 1: dada da da da, or you can go back to 499 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: a beautiful state. So when things go wrong in your life, 500 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: you have to you can take a moment to process. 501 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 1: I ain't say it, don't get mad, cuss the folks out, 502 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: whatever you're gonna do, let it go, release it, say 503 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: what you have to say, Release it and go back 504 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: to a beautiful state, because you don't want the rest 505 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 1: of your day, or your weak or your life to 506 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: be ruined by that thing over there. There's nothing that 507 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 1: being angry at the guy who hurt my son. Trust me, 508 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 1: I'm mad as the dickens, and everybody in my family 509 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 1: is like, we're gonna take him out. You know what 510 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 1: was that was that gonna bring my son back? So 511 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 1: I have to release it. And I forgave him. I 512 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 1: knew it was an accident. He didn't mean to run 513 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: into my son. I can't remain mad. He went to jail. Um, 514 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 1: and your son died. Just for the record, he died 515 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 1: into some type of water accident. Right. He was with 516 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 1: his father and um some of his dad's friends, and 517 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 1: they went to the lake and his dad was driving 518 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 1: a pontoon boat and it had an enter tube connected 519 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: to the boat and he pulled it through the lake 520 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: and the kids get on. They have fun. They had 521 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 1: a joyous day at the lake, and they had jet 522 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 1: skis and people zipping around. You know jet skis, people 523 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 1: get crazy on them, not realizing there's no breaks on water. 524 00:29:56,440 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 1: And so the guy basically ran. He did some kind 525 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: of bee line towards whatever boat or to My son 526 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 1: and another little girl were on and he ran and 527 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 1: he basically landed on the children. And there was another 528 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 1: little girl on there who survived. My son basically saved 529 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: her life. And um, he had a traumatic head and 530 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 1: brain injury called a t p I. And UM he 531 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 1: was in the hospital for two weeks. And I had 532 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 1: to make peace. What what was going to happen? You 533 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 1: know the way that the outcome was gonna go? Trust me? 534 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 1: Oh man, please. I was in there throwing stuff. I 535 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 1: acted a food Let's be clear. I was very angry, 536 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 1: mad at God. Like all the kids in the world there, 537 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 1: you know, he got some bad kids. I hear robbing 538 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: people at gunpoint and doing all kinds of things. He's 539 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 1: talking about Kyle. This was a kid that sat on 540 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 1: his computer all day, computer genius. He was artist. He painted, 541 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 1: he sang. His voice was like an angel. I mean 542 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 1: could sing he's posted on my page. You can see him. 543 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: Could sing um and a mama's boy, like help me 544 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 1: cook for Thanksgiving, cut up all He's my Sioux chef. 545 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 1: He would cut up all the all the tomatoes and 546 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 1: all the onions and everything for the dressing. Like he 547 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,239 Speaker 1: was the guy to stand with me rapping gifts at 548 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 1: four in the morning. This is my guy. I could 549 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 1: not believe he was even on the tube because this 550 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 1: is why I say it had to be his time. 551 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 1: He wasn't athletic, now that he wasn't. He hated sports, 552 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 1: but he loved everything creative and artistic and writing and 553 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 1: singing and all that. Anyway, that said, he volunteered to 554 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 1: get on this tube. The guy ran into him on 555 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 1: a jet ski and that's what happened. Did you blame 556 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 1: his dad? Um? No, I think his father probably you know, 557 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 1: suffers and has enough you know that he's dealing with, 558 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 1: So it would be it would be kind kind of 559 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 1: make no sense to blame him and put extra No. Yeah, 560 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 1: I felt bad for Yeah, I feel bad for his father. Still. Yeah, 561 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 1: here I stand and a beautiful state. How'd you come 562 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 1: up with the title, Well, well, my ex husband wrote 563 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: an album called here I stand. Um, he put on 564 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: that I'm called Here I stand, and the title track 565 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 1: is that, and each of the songs on the album. 566 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 1: I think there's probably I don't want to lie, but 567 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 1: I think there's like twelve songs on the album that 568 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 1: would dedicated to me. All twelve songs, every single one album. 569 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 1: So you added in a beautiful stage. Yes, here I stand. Well, 570 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: it was about the album, but more importantly, here I 571 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 1: stand mean me as a person that's been through I 572 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 1: was three months pregnant when my first son's father was 573 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: killed in Oakland, so I have yeah, my son, I 574 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 1: was nineteen and Um, I was having a baby by 575 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 1: a guy who was a street guy and he was killed. 576 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 1: And I had a child by myself, single mom, and 577 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 1: I did very well with him. He's a very independent, 578 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 1: sweet loving person, no trouble, just good kids. So here 579 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: I stand. I've been through a lot. I've been through 580 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 1: just some egregious stuff. Um, losing my grandmother, losing my mother, 581 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 1: losing my sister. I mean, I have a lot of 582 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 1: people have died in my family. How old were you 583 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 1: when your mom and grandmother died? Um, my grandmother, I 584 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: would say I was about two. My grandmother in the fire. 585 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 1: My grandmother and aunt in the fire. Um. I was 586 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 1: about twenty two. My son was a little boy. My 587 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 1: mom passed, so that was not long ago. Yeah, she 588 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,719 Speaker 1: she had died. She was home her heart she had 589 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,479 Speaker 1: a heart attack and we didn't even know for like 590 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 1: three days. She lived, you know, by herself in Oakland. 591 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 1: And you know, I was actually on a beach and 592 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 1: my sister was like, I'm trying to reach mine. You 593 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 1: talked to my mom? I was like, no, that's weird. 594 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 1: She didn't, cause she said she hadn't called anybody in 595 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,359 Speaker 1: a couple of days. I'm like, no, telling my mom 596 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,799 Speaker 1: was doing? You know, I don't know. And turns out 597 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 1: my mother was there dead for days. So UM, that 598 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:28,399 Speaker 1: was in my son. That happened in UM. I went 599 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 1: through two divorces, So heartbreak, heartbreak. I'm no stranger to 600 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,759 Speaker 1: heartbreak and shock. And so it's here I stand, like, 601 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:37,760 Speaker 1: how do you still stand? How do you still get dressed? 602 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: How do you still um take care of your other children? 603 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 1: How do you still take care of your business? How 604 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 1: do you start a new business? How do you keep 605 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 1: flourishing despite of all the things that have happened When 606 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 1: your mom died and you were on a beach. Where 607 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 1: were you? I was named Willa, same place I was 608 00:34:54,800 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 1: with my son. You you try. She has struck oftentimes 609 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 1: when you were in a state, in a beautiful state 610 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 1: of celebration, where you were having fun. Uh, the same 611 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 1: thing happened to you. You came you had a near 612 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:17,840 Speaker 1: death experience yourself in Brazil. Explain what happened there. Oh, man, 613 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:22,840 Speaker 1: I forgot about that. Man, you're right, like today, I 614 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 1: didn't forget about it, but until you said it, I'm like, 615 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 1: you're right. That's another thing that happened. I was in Brazil, 616 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 1: Um when I was married. It was hard being married 617 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 1: to a celebrity, you know. Like I said, I was 618 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,959 Speaker 1: not meant for being in front of the camera. So 619 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 1: being put in front of the camera, in front of everybody, 620 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 1: UM put me on a lot of pressure, a lot 621 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 1: of scrutiny, a lot of negative stuff was said about me. 622 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 1: And and then also this was a sex symbol, you know, 623 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,479 Speaker 1: so there was a lot of women that came along 624 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,959 Speaker 1: with that package that I didn't like that. I didn't 625 00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 1: quite sign up for that part of the deal. And 626 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:02,840 Speaker 1: so I went to Brazil. I was mad one time. 627 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,280 Speaker 1: It was my sister, my nanny my name was from Brazil, 628 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 1: and my assistant and he was in Vegas, you know, 629 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 1: having a good time, and I said, you know what, 630 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,359 Speaker 1: let's go to Let's go to Brazil. We're gonna take 631 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 1: Jenny to see her kids and we're gonna go kick it. 632 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,359 Speaker 1: We're gonna lay out on the beach and just do us. 633 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 1: And that was my nanny. That was my nanny, and 634 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,880 Speaker 1: it was her. She was sad. It was her son's 635 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 1: birthday and she was always helping me take care of 636 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 1: my kids. I said, let's go, let's go, We're out, 637 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 1: and so we packed up and went went down in Brazil. 638 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:37,799 Speaker 1: And while I was there, I start seeing those people 639 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 1: walk by, the little bathe and suits. I said, well, 640 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 1: let me need some of this body's situation. So I 641 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 1: was like, I'm gonna have lapel suction while I'm here. 642 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,239 Speaker 1: IM gonna give my stomach all flat. I'm gonna come 643 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 1: back cute. I'm gonna be ready. I'm gonna show him. 644 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 1: And why did I do that? He had to come 645 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:59,440 Speaker 1: to Brazil. I um. I went under anesthesia with anesthesiologists, 646 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 1: and when the cardiac arrest, my heart went crazy. I 647 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 1: don't know if they gave me something that I wasn't 648 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:10,840 Speaker 1: supposed to have. Um, but um, I followed all the instructions. 649 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,720 Speaker 1: I didn't eat after midnight, and my blood work was fine. 650 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:18,320 Speaker 1: They still don't exactly know what happened, but yeah, I 651 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 1: want the cardiac arrest. And the doctor hadn't even entered 652 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,920 Speaker 1: the room yet. It was me and the anesthesiologist. Does 653 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,279 Speaker 1: it scare you that they never found out what the 654 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,360 Speaker 1: source was? Well, you know, I went I went to 655 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 1: other cardiologists in the States and they just said, you know, 656 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:36,440 Speaker 1: they thought it was probably some bad uh whatever the 657 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 1: anesthesia was. Yeah, it probably wasn't the right whatever. I 658 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 1: probably had allergic reaction. So I won't be doing anything 659 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 1: like that again. Yeah, I'm good on that. No more 660 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,840 Speaker 1: going to sleep, I'll say that right right. Do you 661 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 1: have a warning for the other young ladies out there 662 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:56,240 Speaker 1: who have anse surgeries? I see them all the time. 663 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 1: I just saw something where all these ladies were getting 664 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,880 Speaker 1: like these butt lifts and going on the wheelchairs in 665 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:06,080 Speaker 1: the airport. But I'm like, okay, ladies, you'd be dead 666 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,759 Speaker 1: to the bed like I was. I was. I'm telling you, 667 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 1: I'm lucky to be here dead bid over beauty. Yeah. 668 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 1: The thing is is that, like I think with a 669 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,840 Speaker 1: lot of men, you know, we have an issue with business. 670 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 1: The reason but it is by the way, see, and 671 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 1: that's what I was about to say. I'm glad you 672 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:32,560 Speaker 1: said it, so I don't have to say, y'all blame 673 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:39,240 Speaker 1: us for we gotta have these issues with these these 674 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 1: these surgeries or whatever. If something happens or whatever, come 675 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,919 Speaker 1: out the form, that's something we get the blame right 676 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:51,719 Speaker 1: the form. You know. I'm saying like that as some 677 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:53,919 Speaker 1: women that have some women that go out and get 678 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 1: the b B L. It's called b bl B. What 679 00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:01,000 Speaker 1: do they call it, Brazilian butler and button left right, 680 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 1: So the women that go out and get that lift 681 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,360 Speaker 1: and then they get the trip. Yeah, me too, because 682 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:15,759 Speaker 1: it often doesn't lift it. But yeah, so when it 683 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:20,080 Speaker 1: goes bad, it really goes bad. Right Oftentimes I've seen 684 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 1: a woman who had like a half a button. You know, 685 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,440 Speaker 1: it's just it's just everything just kind of like it 686 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 1: went away. The round part just went away, and it 687 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,279 Speaker 1: was like he could take it off and you know, 688 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:39,239 Speaker 1: and people were like, uh, people were like you know, hey, 689 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,920 Speaker 1: you know, just go natural. Like a lot of guys. 690 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:48,239 Speaker 1: What I want women to understand is that guys, many 691 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 1: guys do like the big butt or whatever, but they 692 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 1: want it natural. They wanted to be natural, not stuff. Well, 693 00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 1: so I wasn't getting that, by the way, let me 694 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 1: just for the record, I was not getting any additional 695 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 1: but there, That's never been a problem. What I was 696 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:08,880 Speaker 1: concerned about. I had just had two children. I did 697 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:12,480 Speaker 1: them back to back. Yeah, I know I wanted to 698 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,279 Speaker 1: I wanted light bulb. I was just getting because I 699 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,759 Speaker 1: was still slim. I've gained like twenty pounds since those 700 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,719 Speaker 1: days because I was, you know, ten twelve years ago 701 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,840 Speaker 1: when this happened. Um, I just wanted to be skinny 702 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:24,800 Speaker 1: as I used to be. I wanted my waist smart 703 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,279 Speaker 1: on that I wanted to snatch a little waist. So 704 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,359 Speaker 1: I was like, take all this little food pop off 705 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,520 Speaker 1: and take the waist in and let me have the flat, 706 00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:37,000 Speaker 1: little tiny waist. I'm more obsessed with that than anything else. 707 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 1: I've always had boobs and all that kind of stuff, like, well, 708 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:46,480 Speaker 1: why why do women check this out to me? Because 709 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:53,840 Speaker 1: why do women uh get the surgery or whatever, and 710 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 1: and then they say, well, I'm doing this for me 711 00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:57,680 Speaker 1: I'm working out for me. They say, I'm doing this 712 00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,440 Speaker 1: for me. But then when something goes wrong, they say, well, 713 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,800 Speaker 1: if guys wouldn't be doing it, and if they didn't 714 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 1: like it, then you know, we wouldn't be doing this stuff, 715 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,880 Speaker 1: and we wouldn't have girls out here objectifying themselves and stuff. 716 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:13,560 Speaker 1: It's like, how do you blame a man for hold on, 717 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:17,080 Speaker 1: how do you blame a man for like objectifying you 718 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:21,320 Speaker 1: when you objectify yourself. I'm not saying you personally, but 719 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,200 Speaker 1: I'm just saying in general, Like I keep I hear 720 00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:28,160 Speaker 1: these stories, it's like men have no problem owning their ship. 721 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,560 Speaker 1: I do believe. I think it's I think it's common 722 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:35,279 Speaker 1: knowledge that men would just be like, okay, uh yeah, 723 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:40,720 Speaker 1: I'm a dog mental sage. What I'm saying in general 724 00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:44,960 Speaker 1: in general, For years, women have called men dogs, and 725 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:46,920 Speaker 1: men don't put up too much of a fight trying 726 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:51,000 Speaker 1: to uh, you know, protested. They don't put too much 727 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:56,000 Speaker 1: a fight up trying to protested it. But you know, 728 00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,919 Speaker 1: if a woman is out being loose, you know, act 729 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,600 Speaker 1: like a slut or whatever, you know, she don't she 730 00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,359 Speaker 1: don't own it. She'll say that, well, men do it, 731 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:10,520 Speaker 1: and and but men. Men. I think. I think men 732 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:16,360 Speaker 1: oftentimes will more often than not own their ship. And 733 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,480 Speaker 1: you know, and I know I'm getting in trouble right now. 734 00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,680 Speaker 1: I know I'm getting in trouble right No, no, no, 735 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,839 Speaker 1: but let me say this. Men don't own it because 736 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:30,520 Speaker 1: you see, the biggest problem with all men, I'll get 737 00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,319 Speaker 1: myself in trouble. The biggest problem with all men or 738 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 1: for me, it is just the honesty factor. There is 739 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:42,600 Speaker 1: nothing more attractive. I don't care how dirty, dirty, damn 740 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:46,920 Speaker 1: dog you are. Tell the truth. There's something just sexy 741 00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:50,600 Speaker 1: about a man saying, look, you ain't the only one. 742 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:57,080 Speaker 1: And I love Genie over here because whatever reason. So 743 00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,239 Speaker 1: then you can make an informed decision like okay, he 744 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,759 Speaker 1: told me about her, so I can accept it or not. 745 00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:06,400 Speaker 1: So we have a problem when they lie when you 746 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:11,160 Speaker 1: because I love you. That lie is horrid. The lie 747 00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:14,200 Speaker 1: is so it's so weak. It's so I'm from Oakland. 748 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,120 Speaker 1: That's the other thing. I'm from Oakland. So we like 749 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,720 Speaker 1: men that are gs in that sense, like you own 750 00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,080 Speaker 1: your stuff. It's boss to tell the truth. I don't 751 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,400 Speaker 1: know it's sexy. You'd be looking at him like do 752 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,319 Speaker 1: I stay with him or not? Damn he told me. 753 00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,319 Speaker 1: But I like him. That makes you like but that 754 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:35,080 Speaker 1: lion make him a little weasel, just lying ass, hate 755 00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:48,040 Speaker 1: a liar. I think that oftentimes I'm gonna get in 756 00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,360 Speaker 1: trouble again, but I gotta say it's it's important that 757 00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,360 Speaker 1: I say this. I do believe tell the truth and 758 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:57,280 Speaker 1: shame the devil. I do believe that women will say 759 00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,439 Speaker 1: most women will say that they want. Oh, I ain't 760 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,279 Speaker 1: gonna say most, because I don't know most. Onom I 761 00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:05,399 Speaker 1: was just saying, I've heard a lot of women say 762 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,840 Speaker 1: that they want to hear the truth. But when a 763 00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:12,480 Speaker 1: man tells the truth, he seems to not get as 764 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,640 Speaker 1: much out of a woman. And I'm not one of 765 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:18,040 Speaker 1: those guys that I'm talking about right now. I'm I'm 766 00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,680 Speaker 1: more honest because I believe like it's less of a headache, 767 00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,680 Speaker 1: you know. So I believe in just being transparent with 768 00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,359 Speaker 1: a woman. And that's why I told you that way. 769 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,040 Speaker 1: When you start getting your feelings about something whatever, you 770 00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,120 Speaker 1: can't be started thinking like, Okay, I'm gonna get his 771 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,480 Speaker 1: ass back, you know, you know, like, no, he was 772 00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:35,600 Speaker 1: up he was up front, and most guys are not 773 00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:40,040 Speaker 1: that way. But when a guy lies he seems to 774 00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:43,520 Speaker 1: get a lot further. Oftentimes if he's trying to like 775 00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,879 Speaker 1: just have sex with a woman or whatever, and he said, yeah, 776 00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,000 Speaker 1: I want to be with you exclusively what or whatever, 777 00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:52,080 Speaker 1: and then you know, he might get some action out 778 00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,239 Speaker 1: of that if he tells the truth and say no, 779 00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:56,799 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to kno, get back out for the night, 780 00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:00,239 Speaker 1: and I'm out of this bitch, you know, su away 781 00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:05,120 Speaker 1: from me younger. It depends also, let me say this, 782 00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:10,440 Speaker 1: it depends on the age of the girl. Okay, age does. 783 00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:12,600 Speaker 1: Age does have a lot to do with Heck yeah, 784 00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,160 Speaker 1: because when I was younger, my tolerance and what I 785 00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,239 Speaker 1: wanted to hear was different than what I want to hear, 786 00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:21,160 Speaker 1: you know now, So I don't understand. And also I 787 00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:25,920 Speaker 1: do not understand the generation behind me. I'm worried about 788 00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:29,440 Speaker 1: the generation behind me because they're having children, and I'm 789 00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,279 Speaker 1: worried about these kids. I'm worried about just everything. I'm 790 00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,799 Speaker 1: worried about our whole. So the generation behind me, the 791 00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:38,040 Speaker 1: girls that are younger in the thirties and late twenties 792 00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:43,680 Speaker 1: and all that, that's a real lost generation. But if 793 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:47,760 Speaker 1: they're lost, in order for something had to be lost, 794 00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,759 Speaker 1: somebody has to misplace it. Who miss who? Who's so? 795 00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:54,240 Speaker 1: Who misplaced it? Who misplaced the generation? If they're lost 796 00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,680 Speaker 1: my generation, whose fault is that? So? So it's so, 797 00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,160 Speaker 1: it's incombindent on us to get it back. If we 798 00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:01,680 Speaker 1: lost them, we got to go back and find them. 799 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:07,280 Speaker 1: You exactly right, that's funny, that's interesting. Um, that's exactly 800 00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:11,719 Speaker 1: and it is. It's my generation. Because I'm fifty, all right, 801 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:16,000 Speaker 1: so my son is thirty. I can only speak for 802 00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:19,279 Speaker 1: the sons I've had. You know, my my boys are. 803 00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,600 Speaker 1: They're great. I'm not worried about them in terms of 804 00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,319 Speaker 1: the way that I reared them. Um, the things that 805 00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,280 Speaker 1: I instill in them. I always tell my friends, I'm 806 00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:31,719 Speaker 1: a real fussy mom. I'm in they're like, man, they 807 00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,120 Speaker 1: can't hear, like this little gnat in their ear because 808 00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,720 Speaker 1: I'm always worried that if something happens, if something should 809 00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:39,479 Speaker 1: happen to me. Can they make it on their own? 810 00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,080 Speaker 1: Would they be all right? Do they understand how to 811 00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:43,960 Speaker 1: make money? Do they know how to save money? Do 812 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,120 Speaker 1: they not to clean their kitchen? Do they not to 813 00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,560 Speaker 1: make a bed properly? Can they do laundry? Do they 814 00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:50,200 Speaker 1: not a talk? To people do they're not an enter 815 00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,000 Speaker 1: a room, take their shoes off at the door, like, 816 00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:56,000 Speaker 1: but that's me. But I'm only one, so I don't 817 00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,640 Speaker 1: know what's happening with the rest. I'm worried about the 818 00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:02,400 Speaker 1: ones that had these girls. I think girls need so 819 00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,719 Speaker 1: much help because the girl men follow the women. Men 820 00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:07,879 Speaker 1: do what they do for the women. So we could 821 00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:11,000 Speaker 1: fix the girl. I had a foundation called Lost Ones, 822 00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,080 Speaker 1: the Lost Ones Found. I had it until my son 823 00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:16,200 Speaker 1: passed away, Kyle. Um. Now I have Kyle's world, which 824 00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:19,439 Speaker 1: is for him. But Lost Ones. I mentored girls because 825 00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:21,719 Speaker 1: I feel like if we can get the girls in 826 00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:23,719 Speaker 1: order and slow them down and get them to stop 827 00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,080 Speaker 1: working so much and had them put a little bit 828 00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,880 Speaker 1: more clothes on and take the purple hair off, I 829 00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:32,839 Speaker 1: think we can get the girls in order. The men 830 00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:36,640 Speaker 1: will follow. Oh absolutely, the men are gonna are gonna follow. 831 00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:40,160 Speaker 1: They will follow. The men will follow. And I'm a 832 00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,000 Speaker 1: backtrack a little bit. You know when I was talking 833 00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:47,640 Speaker 1: about how women will, women will make certain mistakes or whatever, 834 00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,160 Speaker 1: do certain stupid stuff, and then they always say, well 835 00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:51,840 Speaker 1: if the men, you try to put it on the 836 00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:57,920 Speaker 1: man right, Well, men? Uh, men does a lot of 837 00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:01,200 Speaker 1: stupid stuff. They even risk their lives to impress women 838 00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,640 Speaker 1: to try to get to that money and stuff, all 839 00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:09,480 Speaker 1: to impress women. Even sometimes uh, fighting in clubs or whatever, 840 00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:14,399 Speaker 1: trying to impress a woman, getting caught up in their 841 00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,959 Speaker 1: feelings again, trying to impress women. They end up taking 842 00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:23,200 Speaker 1: penitentiary chance, it's going to pin forty years, Uh, getting 843 00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:27,520 Speaker 1: caught up, getting killed, all kinds of things, and all 844 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:31,200 Speaker 1: of this is to impress women. And that is why 845 00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:35,440 Speaker 1: when men walk around with their pants hanging off their 846 00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:40,680 Speaker 1: asks and he draws sean booty kracko. Uh, if women 847 00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:43,160 Speaker 1: would check them, they I'm talking about the men who 848 00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:47,080 Speaker 1: are interested in women. If women would check them, that 849 00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,560 Speaker 1: ship would be over like this. Let me tell you 850 00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:54,479 Speaker 1: the greatest wars of our time, all the way back 851 00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,359 Speaker 1: to the Romans. Every war you've seen have been over 852 00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:01,480 Speaker 1: two things, one of two things. Back then they called 853 00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:05,759 Speaker 1: it land, which is money or oil whatever, or a 854 00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:09,080 Speaker 1: woman your money is sex. That's it. That's it. If 855 00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:12,759 Speaker 1: you look at every war, everything from you know, and 856 00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:17,200 Speaker 1: if you look at everything historically from the hundred's the 857 00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:22,160 Speaker 1: first fights in the world has been over love or money. 858 00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:25,080 Speaker 1: That's it. That's it. That's why. I know the women 859 00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:28,640 Speaker 1: can fix this. So so how do we resolve that conflict? 860 00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:34,000 Speaker 1: The girls gotta the girls gotta tighten up. The girls 861 00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:39,800 Speaker 1: have to look at um, what type of what type 862 00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:45,359 Speaker 1: of woman? You've gotta become a little more virtuous. That's 863 00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:47,200 Speaker 1: what the women have to do. They have to get 864 00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:49,560 Speaker 1: it together. They got to cover up a little bit 865 00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,920 Speaker 1: and you know, look at themselves more as a prize 866 00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:57,160 Speaker 1: and and and make it a little bit leave some 867 00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:00,640 Speaker 1: mystique to it instead of putting everything out there. Here's 868 00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:02,480 Speaker 1: the thing, I'm just one person. I'm old though I 869 00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:04,359 Speaker 1: don't care. Don'tbody listening to me. And that's what they're 870 00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:07,839 Speaker 1: gonna hit you with the online that's what they're gonna 871 00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:09,560 Speaker 1: come at you with. But y'all want what I got, 872 00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:14,960 Speaker 1: So go there, listen. Do you want what I gotta want? 873 00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:18,160 Speaker 1: What I had? You want something I've been there, done that. 874 00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:20,799 Speaker 1: You guys are trying to get here. So I want 875 00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,839 Speaker 1: the young girls to listen because I'm not even trying 876 00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:26,080 Speaker 1: to catch them anymore. I'm telling you, I let the 877 00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,160 Speaker 1: young girls do what they do. I just I try 878 00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:31,360 Speaker 1: to stay at their business. Stuff happens on social media. 879 00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:33,799 Speaker 1: I just be at home, Like, God, I want to 880 00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:37,759 Speaker 1: comment so bad my kids be like, get off of 881 00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,920 Speaker 1: social media, quick talking, getting people grown, folks business. I 882 00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:42,800 Speaker 1: look at all these little people running out here with 883 00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,880 Speaker 1: all this stuff on and strings covering up and the 884 00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:49,960 Speaker 1: privates out and on red carpet showing half that. I'm like, God, 885 00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:53,759 Speaker 1: I think that it's going to take I don't know. 886 00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:56,440 Speaker 1: I think it's going to take the bravery. It's going 887 00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:59,239 Speaker 1: to take the bravery of more women like you who 888 00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:01,279 Speaker 1: have been that, done that, who they look up to, 889 00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:05,040 Speaker 1: who they aspired to be. But it's also gonna take 890 00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,800 Speaker 1: their peers. It's gonna take some some of the peers 891 00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:10,799 Speaker 1: gonna have to be brave enough to say this ain't cool, 892 00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:12,800 Speaker 1: that ain't cool. They got to be brave enough to 893 00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:16,520 Speaker 1: speak out. Because when I was growing up, it always 894 00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:20,080 Speaker 1: had like one thing that I know about human beings 895 00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:24,480 Speaker 1: is that two damn foods ain't gonna make it. Somebody 896 00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:29,160 Speaker 1: got to have some sense. Somebody got to have some sense, 897 00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:33,840 Speaker 1: you know. And and growing up early on, I was 898 00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:37,200 Speaker 1: the damn food. So my buddy was my want, my 899 00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,719 Speaker 1: my homeboy. He had a little bit more sense, Ron 900 00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:41,320 Speaker 1: had a little bit more sense than I did. He 901 00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:43,320 Speaker 1: could talk to me off the ledge, but I was on, 902 00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:48,640 Speaker 1: go go go go. Yeah, well it's gonna always be 903 00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:50,279 Speaker 1: in me now because I and I and I, And 904 00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,680 Speaker 1: I'm okay with that, you know, because I think that 905 00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,239 Speaker 1: you gotta have that in you to survive in this 906 00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:59,120 Speaker 1: type of world we're living in, because people, people will 907 00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,799 Speaker 1: take your kind this for weakness, and so they that 908 00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:09,120 Speaker 1: threat must always exist otherwise they will walk over you. People. 909 00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:12,000 Speaker 1: Some people sit back and just wait for you to 910 00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:15,880 Speaker 1: start reclining, like yeah, I'm done, I'm retired, and and 911 00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:20,799 Speaker 1: now okay, yeah, I mean I remember early on when 912 00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:22,719 Speaker 1: I started making money, I was like, man, you know, 913 00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,040 Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta I got chilled. I gotta fall back, 914 00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:30,120 Speaker 1: you know. And uh, I realized that, Okay, they think 915 00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:36,040 Speaker 1: he's on tour, he's making records, living up, living fancy. 916 00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,000 Speaker 1: He ain't worried about what's going on right here in 917 00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:41,520 Speaker 1: the water, what's going on and on the north side 918 00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:43,759 Speaker 1: or the south side or whatever. He ain't worried about 919 00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,439 Speaker 1: what we do to this people or whatever. And then 920 00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:49,400 Speaker 1: you know, I had to you know, slide back in, 921 00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:51,919 Speaker 1: spankle the last and get back right and say hey, 922 00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,920 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, you know, it's it's gonna and I 923 00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,479 Speaker 1: had I had to realize that, you know what, these 924 00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:00,359 Speaker 1: foods ain't gonna let you retire. They're not gonna let 925 00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:03,400 Speaker 1: me retire you because the moment I do, they're going 926 00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:05,600 Speaker 1: to take that kindness for weakness. They're gonna think that 927 00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:09,400 Speaker 1: it's sweet. So I realized that, Okay, I gotta stay active, 928 00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:12,719 Speaker 1: but I had to change my method. You understand what 929 00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:18,440 Speaker 1: I'm saying, you know, like anyway, let's move all. Yeah. 930 00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:26,439 Speaker 1: So I want to know how has your rearing of 931 00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:33,600 Speaker 1: your kids that you have remaining, uh changed? Are you 932 00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:37,399 Speaker 1: stricter stricter now that you know since Kyle's passing? Are 933 00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:41,240 Speaker 1: you hard on them? Do you think they probably think so? Um, 934 00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:44,759 Speaker 1: I'm not harder. I'm not harder. I'm probably softer. But 935 00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:50,520 Speaker 1: I am a bit of a helicopter mom, you know. Um, 936 00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:53,799 Speaker 1: I am a little more intuitive, and I also am 937 00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:56,759 Speaker 1: more intentional with the time I spend with them. I 938 00:53:56,840 --> 00:54:00,160 Speaker 1: make sure none of them ever leave my president. It's 939 00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:03,239 Speaker 1: without knowing that I loved them, and I probably am 940 00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:06,359 Speaker 1: a little more um chatty you know what I mean? 941 00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:09,160 Speaker 1: I mean there. I remember on Thursday, I was driving 942 00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:12,279 Speaker 1: my son to school and um little ushers. He looked 943 00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:15,480 Speaker 1: at me. He was like, I'm telling dad that we 944 00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:18,400 Speaker 1: gotta get um, we gotta ride the bus. We cannot 945 00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,680 Speaker 1: do this every day with you. We cannot. You know, 946 00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:24,879 Speaker 1: I can't do this no more my sons and eighth 947 00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:28,000 Speaker 1: grade because I'm like in his ear, like when you 948 00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:29,920 Speaker 1: want these teachers to think about you, I got a 949 00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:31,960 Speaker 1: note from your cheacher. I'm just fussing, fussing, fussing all 950 00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:33,880 Speaker 1: the way to school with and put some motion on 951 00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,120 Speaker 1: your face. And why would you set up when you're 952 00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:37,640 Speaker 1: in class? Do you slump like that that? He was 953 00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:39,920 Speaker 1: just looking at me, like you can't be fussed as 954 00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:44,080 Speaker 1: much at seven morton. Um, I think I'm just always 955 00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:47,320 Speaker 1: I'm teaching, teaching, teaching. I don't know why I feel 956 00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:49,960 Speaker 1: because I think I am a little anxious about time, 957 00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:52,560 Speaker 1: Like I don't know how much time I have. I 958 00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:57,560 Speaker 1: think one thing about losing Kyle. Um. I just feel 959 00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:59,440 Speaker 1: like I don't know. I feel like I'm running out 960 00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:01,480 Speaker 1: of time, don't That's the only thing I do have 961 00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:05,520 Speaker 1: to um, kind of relax a little bit about I 962 00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:07,600 Speaker 1: feel like there's not time. I just think that you 963 00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:10,080 Speaker 1: got to do it. So when I have the urge 964 00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:13,279 Speaker 1: to travel. I travel when I have the urge to, 965 00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:16,440 Speaker 1: um love on my kids. I'll say, hey, we're not 966 00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:19,000 Speaker 1: going to school today, We're going to Disneyland. Like I'll 967 00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:21,560 Speaker 1: make a decision, like we out or you know what, 968 00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:24,279 Speaker 1: it's a beautiful day, Let's get on a jet and 969 00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,239 Speaker 1: go to such as if I can afford it, you know, 970 00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:30,239 Speaker 1: at the time. But I try to do as much. Um. 971 00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:34,000 Speaker 1: I'm more spontaneous than I was and and I'm very 972 00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:37,960 Speaker 1: intentional with my kids. Yeah, for sure, is your household 973 00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:40,439 Speaker 1: of the household that all the kids want to come over? 974 00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:45,320 Speaker 1: They hated No, not fun. I don't have no pets. 975 00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:49,400 Speaker 1: It's just too clean. I'm a little O. C D. 976 00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:53,480 Speaker 1: My house is like clean clean. But you seem like 977 00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:58,440 Speaker 1: the you. You seem like the you know, the the 978 00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:05,400 Speaker 1: the carrying type, but kind of fun. Fun. First of all, 979 00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:07,680 Speaker 1: I love music. So any household that has a lot 980 00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:11,400 Speaker 1: of music, it's always more fun. So music is in 981 00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:13,799 Speaker 1: my house. You're gonna have music. And in fact, when 982 00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:16,279 Speaker 1: you ordered my book, I have a playlist that comes 983 00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:18,040 Speaker 1: with the book. That's how much I mean. I'm so 984 00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:20,840 Speaker 1: in the music. My father was a musician. Yeah, my 985 00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:23,480 Speaker 1: father was in a group, an old group called the Ballots, 986 00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:26,120 Speaker 1: and used to perform everywhere. They opened for all the 987 00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:28,439 Speaker 1: you know, the Whispers and all of them. They kind 988 00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:31,480 Speaker 1: of put the Whispers on. Yes in Oakland when the 989 00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:36,160 Speaker 1: Whispers came to the it is John Foster, and there's 990 00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:39,239 Speaker 1: a group called the Ballots. In fact, guess what Wu 991 00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:42,440 Speaker 1: Tang sample my dad's song. One of his songs on 992 00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:47,080 Speaker 1: the Wu Tang album, a song called Conditioner with Snoop Dogg. 993 00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:51,000 Speaker 1: That's my dad's song, Dizzy World. My dad was in 994 00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:52,680 Speaker 1: a group called the Ballots. He was in a movie 995 00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:54,919 Speaker 1: called The Mac. You've heard of the Mac, of course, 996 00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:58,000 Speaker 1: my dad, that's what that was shot in No, Oakland, 997 00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:04,840 Speaker 1: for sure. I hate to see for sure. Eighteen siblings, 998 00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:10,759 Speaker 1: so do you? John Earl Foster's my daddy. How many 999 00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:19,280 Speaker 1: baby moms did your dad have? Eighteen? No, he had fourteen, fifteen. 1000 00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:21,560 Speaker 1: I mean, there's a couple of questionable kids that I'm 1001 00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:24,720 Speaker 1: kind of like, we need some DNA, we need to 1002 00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:27,160 Speaker 1: do a little swab. He like they're too old. It 1003 00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:33,520 Speaker 1: don't matter. It's like, so I'm looking John Foster, John Foster, 1004 00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:39,360 Speaker 1: and I got an Italian singer. Um look at the 1005 00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:43,120 Speaker 1: ballots to this group called the ballots LLL A d S. 1006 00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:47,800 Speaker 1: The ballots. Picture of them in my book. There's a 1007 00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:50,960 Speaker 1: picture in my book. Did they Did they do a 1008 00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:56,360 Speaker 1: lot of rehearsing at your house? Um? You know growing up. 1009 00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:00,880 Speaker 1: Let's see dope, man, please, I used to go to 1010 00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:06,800 Speaker 1: all the rehearsals. Yeah. Well I'll check it out later. 1011 00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:12,680 Speaker 1: But anyway, who out of all of these people that 1012 00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:17,600 Speaker 1: you have styled for, he's back with you. He's back 1013 00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:20,600 Speaker 1: with the things. Okay, they'll bring it in, he said, 1014 00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:23,120 Speaker 1: he's out there. You don't know which one to come into. Okay, 1015 00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:26,600 Speaker 1: hazard him till we can stop for a second. Oh okay, 1016 00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:29,200 Speaker 1: you have two things going on. Can we cut for 1017 00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:33,360 Speaker 1: a second. Okay, sorry, cut, Okay, you gotta go get that. 1018 00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:38,040 Speaker 1: Grabbed the book from the guy he has him? Oh 1019 00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:44,160 Speaker 1: there he Hasn't you have the book? Oh you want 1020 00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:46,960 Speaker 1: to grab them? Okay? So one second, So you said 1021 00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:55,560 Speaker 1: b A L l A d S. Yeah, what how 1022 00:58:55,640 --> 00:59:00,360 Speaker 1: is that possible? Did you put the balance at least 1023 00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:05,960 Speaker 1: you don't see the group? That's it, right, that is right. 1024 00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:08,000 Speaker 1: Just put in the ballots and then you'll see. I'll 1025 00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:15,280 Speaker 1: show you a picture him. My daddy, my papa. They 1026 00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:21,160 Speaker 1: sampled a song named pam Ooh daddy. He's the picture 1027 00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:24,240 Speaker 1: of his group. And my dad is a light skinning, 1028 00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:29,680 Speaker 1: real handsome guy. You like my first son's father. You 1029 00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:38,520 Speaker 1: look like him. Yes, it's very weird. Actually, do you 1030 00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:42,360 Speaker 1: like it? I shot that it was funny. I took 1031 00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:46,920 Speaker 1: that picture in BALI no intentions on it, uh, becoming 1032 00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:50,120 Speaker 1: a book, had no idea that, And I didn't have 1033 00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:54,120 Speaker 1: a stylist or makeup artist nothing. I did that myself. 1034 00:59:56,960 --> 01:00:01,680 Speaker 1: So which one of these guys? Let me see? How 1035 01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:06,600 Speaker 1: do you know? The mess? He's a mess, that's why. Yeah, 1036 01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:11,160 Speaker 1: my dad is my favorite guy. There's nobody dopers and 1037 01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:14,200 Speaker 1: this guy. That guy is and he's still alive. Wait, no, 1038 01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:18,400 Speaker 1: this gets worse. Look at him there on the corner. 1039 01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:26,400 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Yeah, here's what you call a hot mess. Okay, Uh, 1040 01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:36,000 Speaker 1: do you all remember when we stopped that? Yes, we're 1041 01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:41,360 Speaker 1: talking about my dad. I'm talking about where we stopped. 1042 01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:43,000 Speaker 1: I know we was talking about him, but I'm saying, 1043 01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:48,520 Speaker 1: you know what we say? What a stop? Was that one? 1044 01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:51,959 Speaker 1: You know? I'm talking like what we were talking about? 1045 01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:54,240 Speaker 1: What was the subject? No, we know what the subject? 1046 01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:56,960 Speaker 1: What I'm saying, like, what what do we What did 1047 01:00:56,960 --> 01:01:00,880 Speaker 1: I say last? You said? Kids? Him being in the Mac? 1048 01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:12,120 Speaker 1: I think I said, you know what the Mac is? Uma? Kids? Yeah, 1049 01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:15,760 Speaker 1: roll back because I don't want to miss this up. 1050 01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:17,760 Speaker 1: I don't want to make the Hattittes jumping and stuff. 1051 01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:20,480 Speaker 1: So roll back to the end, like like maybe fifteen 1052 01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:33,479 Speaker 1: seconds before it ended. Okay, yeah, so let's just let's 1053 01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:45,120 Speaker 1: just start start what the audience all right, let's go. 1054 01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:53,160 Speaker 1: So we're gonna jump back in to your father piece. 1055 01:01:53,640 --> 01:02:01,320 Speaker 1: Um so see you said, um, actually, what's your father Mac? 1056 01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:08,320 Speaker 1: My father was definitely a Mac. Are we ready? Okay? 1057 01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:12,920 Speaker 1: Here we go? Okay, okay, where's your father Mac? I 1058 01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:14,840 Speaker 1: think you know, he was in the movie The Mac, 1059 01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:18,480 Speaker 1: and uh, I think he really took this thing literally. 1060 01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:22,520 Speaker 1: So I think i'd like to say, yes, you a 1061 01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:25,080 Speaker 1: lot of children, a lot of a lot of women. 1062 01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:28,480 Speaker 1: But you know one thing I'll say about my father, Um, 1063 01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:31,320 Speaker 1: he's eighty years old now, so maybe he hung up 1064 01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:36,120 Speaker 1: his he retired his pimp cup, But but every woman 1065 01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:40,080 Speaker 1: in his life still loves him, the ones that are alive, 1066 01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:45,160 Speaker 1: you know, Um, I don't think he mistreated anyone truthfully, 1067 01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:48,800 Speaker 1: They really love him. And they have adoration for him, 1068 01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:54,000 Speaker 1: every woman, including you. I adore your dad, please. Yeah, 1069 01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:56,680 Speaker 1: but I noticed I gravitate to the same types of 1070 01:02:56,760 --> 01:03:03,080 Speaker 1: guys in terms of woman visors and men with many women. 1071 01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:07,760 Speaker 1: I don't go for the cornballs. I can't. My cornball 1072 01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:10,880 Speaker 1: meter is like so high. I don't think I'm gonna 1073 01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:17,920 Speaker 1: track this. And the reason being the reason being three, 1074 01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:20,840 Speaker 1: I don't know, because of my father treated me really well. 1075 01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:22,680 Speaker 1: He was he was a good dad. I had a 1076 01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:26,760 Speaker 1: good dad. Despite his I would he probably wasn't a 1077 01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:30,600 Speaker 1: good husband or a good boyfriend to those ladies, but 1078 01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:34,360 Speaker 1: he was a good dad to me. Right. Yeah, But 1079 01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:40,760 Speaker 1: we find a lot in society that women will whatever 1080 01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:44,160 Speaker 1: the dad is, they will gravitate towards that same kind 1081 01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:49,680 Speaker 1: of guy. And when when dad is a bad guy, 1082 01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:54,120 Speaker 1: he has certain flaws or whatever, if he treats you well, 1083 01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:57,760 Speaker 1: if it however he treats you, especially if that's love. 1084 01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:01,280 Speaker 1: Like in your situation, you felt loved, but you you 1085 01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:04,880 Speaker 1: you find out dad was Papa was rolling stone. So 1086 01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:09,640 Speaker 1: it's like even though you hated that part of him, 1087 01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:16,200 Speaker 1: you still gravitated towards him because you saw that that 1088 01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:21,439 Speaker 1: part came with the love. So when you're dating these 1089 01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:24,320 Speaker 1: type of guys and then they showed that same type 1090 01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:29,760 Speaker 1: of energy or whatever you equate that with the full 1091 01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:34,000 Speaker 1: package of being loved. I think you're right. You know. 1092 01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:36,520 Speaker 1: I've never thought of it that way, and I've always 1093 01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:39,400 Speaker 1: wondered why I kind of like the cool guy and 1094 01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:43,720 Speaker 1: the popular guys. And I think I think you're probably right. 1095 01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:46,280 Speaker 1: Because at the same time that my father was rolling stone, 1096 01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:50,320 Speaker 1: he also made a mean pot of chili cook He 1097 01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:54,760 Speaker 1: taught me how to make shrimp fried rice. He's not Asian. 1098 01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:59,520 Speaker 1: Um Um. He made the swords from my school play. 1099 01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:01,800 Speaker 1: He took me to school. He you know, he was 1100 01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:05,320 Speaker 1: very very was a doting father, but he was all 1101 01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:06,920 Speaker 1: over the place. He also took me to meet all 1102 01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:09,080 Speaker 1: my siblings, and my mother didn't know about it. I 1103 01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:10,880 Speaker 1: talked about all this in my book. I can't wait, 1104 01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:19,000 Speaker 1: And here I stand in a beautiful state, a beautiful state. 1105 01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:26,280 Speaker 1: That's it. How can they go by your your your book? 1106 01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:29,520 Speaker 1: How can they get it? Um? It's available on Tamika 1107 01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:34,400 Speaker 1: Raymond dot com. That's my personal website. It is going 1108 01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:36,840 Speaker 1: to be added to Amazon like in the next couple 1109 01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:40,080 Speaker 1: of days. I was hesitant about ever putting it on Amazon, 1110 01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:43,200 Speaker 1: but I realized I'm like being antiquated by not having 1111 01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:46,440 Speaker 1: it on there. So did you do an audio version? 1112 01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:50,280 Speaker 1: I've started. I have five chapters done. Oh it's so 1113 01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:53,720 Speaker 1: hard doing an audio book. It's hard anything because you 1114 01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:56,000 Speaker 1: gotta make it not sound. I didn't want to sound 1115 01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:59,120 Speaker 1: monotone has to have you know, different levels and all 1116 01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:04,280 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. Yeah, yeah, this is this is 1117 01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:07,479 Speaker 1: uh and a great cover. I hadn't had a chance 1118 01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:10,440 Speaker 1: to read it yet, but great cover. And you were 1119 01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:14,600 Speaker 1: saying something about the cover about how it came to be. Yeah, 1120 01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:18,760 Speaker 1: that I went to Bali. I travel. Travel has helped 1121 01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:21,840 Speaker 1: me with my recovery over just all the different things, 1122 01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:24,800 Speaker 1: like you know, the losses and divorced to this, to that. 1123 01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:28,040 Speaker 1: Um so I traveled. I went to Bali actually for 1124 01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:31,680 Speaker 1: Kyle what would have been Kyle's eighteenth birthday. I went 1125 01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:34,720 Speaker 1: to Bali and I decided to hire a photographer. And 1126 01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:40,160 Speaker 1: that picture was just in my hotel suite, um and 1127 01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:44,400 Speaker 1: uboo Bali. Yeah, I didn't have a makeup partners. I 1128 01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:47,480 Speaker 1: did it myself and did my hair. That was me lounging. 1129 01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:49,520 Speaker 1: And you said you had to find a picture of 1130 01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:51,920 Speaker 1: your standing. Yeah, because all the pictures I was sitting 1131 01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:54,680 Speaker 1: down and lounging in the room, and then I've had 1132 01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:56,640 Speaker 1: to find one that was a decent one that that's 1133 01:06:56,680 --> 01:07:01,560 Speaker 1: just a good cover picture. Yeah, yeah, it's beautiful, hundred 1134 01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:05,960 Speaker 1: dollar photo shoot right there. But you're a beautiful person 1135 01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:08,760 Speaker 1: with a more beautiful spirit. Thank you. I appreciate that. 1136 01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:19,240 Speaker 1: Final question, with all of the lost pain, the divorce, 1137 01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:28,240 Speaker 1: if there's a civil lining in your life, where do 1138 01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:37,920 Speaker 1: you think it is? Mm hmm A good question. I 1139 01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:41,000 Speaker 1: think you know. I have a lot more to do. 1140 01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:44,680 Speaker 1: I think that there's a reason why God spared me 1141 01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:47,840 Speaker 1: when I almost died in Brazil. I think there's a 1142 01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:51,240 Speaker 1: reason why he as much as I've tried to go 1143 01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:54,600 Speaker 1: crazy and been accused of being crazy, that my brain 1144 01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:58,160 Speaker 1: won't even let me go crazy. My brain unscrambles, I 1145 01:07:58,160 --> 01:07:59,720 Speaker 1: don't have time to go crazy. As soon as I 1146 01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:01,760 Speaker 1: try later and say I'm going crazy today, is it 1147 01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:05,680 Speaker 1: checking out? Get to check figure it out, my brain says, girl, 1148 01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:07,919 Speaker 1: get up, you gotta take those kids. What You've got 1149 01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:10,680 Speaker 1: things to do. So I think the silver lining is 1150 01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:13,680 Speaker 1: that God has kept me sane, He's kept me healthy 1151 01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:18,760 Speaker 1: at COVID. I mean I'm fine. I you know, I 1152 01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:21,160 Speaker 1: just think I'm very blessed. There's a lot of bad 1153 01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:24,920 Speaker 1: things that have happened in my life, but overall, I 1154 01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:28,439 Speaker 1: wouldn't want a different life, you know. Overall I love 1155 01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:31,479 Speaker 1: my life. I love I love myself. I love my life, 1156 01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:34,240 Speaker 1: I love my children. I still have my Kyle in 1157 01:08:34,280 --> 01:08:38,120 Speaker 1: my spirit of my heart. Um, I love him. So 1158 01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:43,240 Speaker 1: I think life is good despite the bad things. Yes, 1159 01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:47,160 Speaker 1: there's in gentleman to make a foster. Raymond, thank you 1160 01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:50,759 Speaker 1: so much for having them. So awesome. What a good interview. 1161 01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:59,320 Speaker 1: Beautiful a thank you. 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