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Speaker 1: Welcome back, if Dale Lai.

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Speaker 2: He is Matt Williams, and this is the Drive off

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Speaker 2: steel at Nation Radio and ESPN nine seventy.

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Speaker 1: We are live from.

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Speaker 2: Steelers training camp practice year at Saint Vincent College and

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Speaker 2: well practiced. Number two has wrapped up a lot of

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Speaker 2: players still out there in the field, getting a lot

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Speaker 2: of players additional work in.

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Speaker 1: Uh, you were right, Matt.

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Speaker 2: The Jalen Ramsey senior report here had a full moniscus

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Speaker 2: repair and is likely out until December.

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Speaker 1: December. That hurts sound. Now.

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Speaker 2: They did draft Cam Smith and they took camp skip

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Speaker 2: point draft, which was prudent by them.

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Speaker 1: I know some people, well you know, I didn't see

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Speaker 1: that coming on draft.

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Speaker 2: They've got Zavian Howard and they've got Jalen Ramsey. What

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Speaker 2: do they nave with Cam Smith as well? Cam Smith's

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Speaker 2: end up playing a.

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Speaker 1: Lot and oh goodbye Jennie. I was killed the name

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Speaker 1: former first one. He hasn't worked out, but he's in

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Speaker 1: the mix at least. When they made that Cam Smith pick,

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Speaker 1: my immediate thought was Ramsey is not gonna lie up

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Speaker 1: on the outside. I mean with the Rams he was

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Speaker 1: that star position, big slot, some safety stuff kind of

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Speaker 1: like were talking about Patrick Peterson earlier. I think they

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Speaker 1: had big plans for him. But I mean, as star

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Speaker 1: injuries go, maybe they can withstand it because I mean,

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Speaker 1: they didn't have the guy last year and didn't pay

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Speaker 1: a lot to get him, but other than contract. But

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Speaker 1: it's unfortunate, you know, you hate to see it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they gave up draft picks and you know,

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Speaker 2: all kinds of stuff to get him, and well, now

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Speaker 2: you don't have him, and that's the danger of giving

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Speaker 2: up multiple draft picks. No, and then to get a

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Speaker 2: player in the money that they're paying him, that's a

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Speaker 2: big blow to the Dolphins.

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Speaker 1: It is. He's a really good player. A couple of

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Speaker 1: defensive editions in the next couple last year or so long, Chubb,

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Speaker 1: you know, the Cam Smith who you mentioned, looked like

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Speaker 1: you was set up to be a really good defense

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Speaker 1: in my opinion, and now Fangio's there. But Ramsey's just

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Speaker 1: different than all those guys. I mean, he's almost like

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Speaker 1: a Derwin James where he could just do so much

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Speaker 1: with him and I'm sure they had a plan for

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Speaker 1: it and now all that's out the window. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: How about this news, guard Trey Turner who signed with

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Speaker 2: the Saints earlier this week.

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Speaker 1: He toured squadriceps today. Yeah, I said that's out for

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Speaker 1: the year, right, Yeah, out for the year. That might

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Speaker 1: be about it for him.

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Speaker 2: You would think, Yeah, he's kind of been towards the

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Speaker 2: end of his career and again just signed this week

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Speaker 2: and already out for the for the year.

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Speaker 1: I mean, who knows. I mean I immediately think, which

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Speaker 1: isn't fair? What kind of shape was he in? Was

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Speaker 1: there something loose there to begin with? Maybe that's why

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Speaker 1: I didn't signed to begin with. Maybe none, that's true,

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Speaker 1: but man, I mean you got to think if he

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Speaker 1: was out on the open market this long, after being

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Speaker 1: basically an average starting guard on his best day, he

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Speaker 1: might be done. Yeah yeah.

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Speaker 2: D George McDaniel said that Ramsey could return this season.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's more of a playoff situation or where they're

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Speaker 1: at in their season.

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Speaker 2: Maybe maybe, I mean it's so early in the process something.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's a knee. He's a cornerback, right, you know,

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Speaker 2: he's cornerbacks. They don't come off the field typically.

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Speaker 1: Sure he wouldn't ever, right, Yeah, So that's.

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Speaker 2: Tough to come back from that, you know, even if

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Speaker 2: it would be let's say nine or ten weeks into

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Speaker 2: the season, it's two or three weeks before he's back

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Speaker 2: up to speed.

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Speaker 1: Oh right, right right, you know no, I would think you.

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Speaker 1: I mean, best case scenario is you bring him along

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Speaker 1: slowly and round one of the playoffs he's hopefully back

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Speaker 1: to ninety percent. You know, if it even get to

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Speaker 1: that point. Yeah, you know, the season goes. But that's brutal,

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Speaker 1: That is brutal. I haven't seen any Borough news no,

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Speaker 1: well yeah, nothing nothing updated on that, so maybe good

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Speaker 1: news maybe maybe I mean a little I've heard were

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Speaker 1: calf strain, which doesn't say a lot, but right, I

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Speaker 1: mean it's not oh seasons over, you know we we

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Speaker 1: haven't heard that yet.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what you don't want to hear, just like

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Speaker 2: a as a football fan.

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Speaker 1: Sure, you know you want to see the best player

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Speaker 2: I was, uh, looking at at the some of those

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Speaker 1: Earlier this week. Yeah, we didn't go through a lot.

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Speaker 2: Justin Herbert Trayvon Dicks. Did you see the deal Trayvon Digs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the one I had the problem with, to

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Speaker 1: be honest with you, Yeah, I mean he's up and

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Speaker 1: down in his game, to begin with, corners are sort

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Speaker 1: the last ten years or so, they're very they want

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Speaker 1: to keep their own, but they overpay their own, which

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Speaker 1: most teams don't. You know, usually you can not get

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Speaker 1: a hometown discount. But these guys aren't on the open

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Speaker 1: market competing for contracts. I mean they did it with Zeke,

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Speaker 1: They've done it with Tyron Smith. I mean with a

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Speaker 1: lot of these guys. They give questionable contracts to their

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Speaker 1: own guys. I mean that's that's a little rough.

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Speaker 2: Meanwhile, Zach Martin, Zack Martin's out there going, hey, I'm

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Speaker 2: the best guard in the league. Yeah, And Zach Martin's

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Speaker 2: holding out because he's like, you know, one of the

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Speaker 2: chomp liver here.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, and I assume he'll get paid. I mean, they

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Speaker 1: need him bad. But that's the next news out of Dallas.

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Speaker 1: But they have a history of overpaying their own. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: We also saw a couple of offensive tackles get paid.

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Speaker 2: Titus Howard got three years, fifty six million dollars, thirty

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Speaker 2: six and a half million dollars guaranteed. Yeah, from the

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Speaker 2: Houston Texans. He was kind of if you remember back

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Speaker 1: No doubt, no doubt, and I forget I think it

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Speaker 1: was Dillard from the Eagles went to pick. The Eagles

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Speaker 1: traded ahead of the Texans and grabbed him, who's now

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Speaker 1: with the Titans, and he didn't work out, and the

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Speaker 1: big news was Houston was going to take Dillard Andre Dillard,

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Speaker 1: and they settled for Howard, who struggled a little early

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Speaker 1: but has really got settled in pretty well right tackle.

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Speaker 1: Tunsel's a star at left tackle. They obviously are very

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Speaker 1: He kind of almost reminds you like a Heismith signing,

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Speaker 1: really like him. Developed an important position. Their center play

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Speaker 1: that might be one of the first true building blocks

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Speaker 2: I just noticed something here as we sit here and

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Speaker 2: you look on the far sideline, just around the twenty,

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Speaker 2: there you see Making Fitzpatrick working ball skills with Joey

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Speaker 2: Porter Jr. No, okay, yeah, you're right. With the tennis balls. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: with the tennis balls he's getting. So the drill is,

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Speaker 2: there's two tennis balls. The defensive back in this case,

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Speaker 2: Porter has his back turn to Fitzpatrick who's tossing the balls,

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Speaker 2: and you turn one way and catch one ball in

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Speaker 2: one hand. You turn the other way and catch the

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Speaker 2: other ball in your other hand, So you.

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Speaker 1: Have to you have to turn. But that shows to

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Speaker 1: me hunches again. This is just being around the game.

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Speaker 1: Is it's all about hip turn and finding the football.

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Speaker 1: I mean everyone talks about loose hips or a corner.

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Speaker 1: Like think if you're screaming down the sideline in a

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Speaker 1: to the end zone he's defending. You know, he's running

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Speaker 1: and you know, I think it's more of a hip

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Speaker 1: I you know, getting those guys married and quick. You know,

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Speaker 1: it would be my hunches why they're doing this. And

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Speaker 1: it's not like he catches everyone. This drill is not easy.

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Speaker 1: It was easy, they wouldn't be doing it right right.

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Speaker 2: Right right, And he drops one out of five or

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Speaker 2: so or doesn't quite find it right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you want and we make those turns. Think

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Speaker 1: he's going to show him how to do I bet

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Speaker 1: you make it. Doesn't miss anyth Look how quick he is,

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Speaker 1: he's the head just comes right around and they don't

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Speaker 1: move their feet. I mean they're just swiveling from the

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Speaker 1: hips up and finding the ball. And he dropped that too.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's hard. Yeah, that's that's that's interesting. That's

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Speaker 2: That you see here in practice type settings. You know,

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Speaker 2: young guys working with old guys. Who's that running out

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Speaker 1: I can't tell the player, but cute at situation you've

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she's running with the football and he's following her

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Speaker 2: up up the field here it comes up about his knee.

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Speaker 2: But she's taking at the distance of She's going all

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Speaker 1: She's not even slowed down when she got to the end.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna be worn out when she gets the Yeah,

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Speaker 2: she's going right through the Enzo and she's monte perfecting

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Speaker 2: that thing. She's interested in the miles killer brew is it?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, now she's gonna run back away from him.

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Speaker 1: She's she's elusive. That might be the best drill out

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Speaker 1: there is chase the chase the two year old around.

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Speaker 1: That's a tackling drill. Trying to do a full practice

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Speaker 1: in the middle of July and then chase a two

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I can remember last year watching Mason Cole out

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Speaker 2: here following his little one. It was about that and

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Speaker 2: he was just run and then just dive onto the ground.

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Speaker 1: So one thing we used to do. You do it

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Speaker 1: to go five yards or whatever? It's kind of hers

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Speaker 1: to six or it took ten, Yeah, ten little strides

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Speaker 1: It's odd out there. Yeah, she's into it. Yeah, that's cool.

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Speaker 1: That is absolutely cool. It's one of the cool things.

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Speaker 1: I know. A lot of people come and leave or

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Speaker 1: some people. A lot of people hang around to try

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Speaker 1: to get autographs or whatever. But some of this stuff

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Speaker 1: post practice is really entertaining. Yes, from a football perspective,

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Speaker 1: like we did with the porter, make your conversation, but

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Speaker 1: also wives, girlfriends, daughters, sons, things like that. I mean

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Speaker 1: just from a personal level. You'll see a lot of

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Speaker 1: guys out there having fun after practice. In this setting,

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Speaker 1: it's pretty co Another guy with a real little bugger

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Speaker 1: even Mitch Truisky. Yeah, it looks like Mitch. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And if you remember his bet, his one, yeah, his way,

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Speaker 1: Welcome back.

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Speaker 2: nine seventy. We are live at the Saint Vincent College

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Speaker 2: here where practice just wrapped up a little bit ago.

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Speaker 2: That would be practice number two for the Steelers in

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Speaker 1: Full pads, full pads. Yeah, right of rock. So let

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Speaker 1: But the teams can choose to start this whole process

437
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Speaker 1: when they want, I mean to some degree. And the

438
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Speaker 1: Steelers were last. Do you think they just wanted to

439
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Speaker 1: knock all that stuff off, give them a nice break,

440
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Speaker 1: come back strong? Is there a reason you think that

441
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Speaker 1: they were the last one to get started?

442
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Speaker 2: Okay, so you can start training camp essentially fourteen days

443
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Speaker 2: before your first.

444
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Speaker 1: Game, yes, right, right, Okay.

445
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Speaker 2: So the way that Mike Tomlin did this this year

446
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Speaker 2: is that he didn't give them any days off this week.

447
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Speaker 1: You're supposed to have one day off each week, okay,

448
00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:23,760
Speaker 1: but they got one on the day started later that.

449
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Speaker 2: The day off was basically Wednesday, It was really day

450
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Speaker 2: one day, I should say, and Wednesday was reporting day.

451
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Speaker 2: So instead of instead of showing up on Tuesday, working

452
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Speaker 2: for three or four days, yes to giving them a

453
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Speaker 2: day off, coming back and practicing, and then giving them

454
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Speaker 2: another day off before going into pads, he decided, let's

455
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Speaker 2: just roll four practices, give them a day off, and

456
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Speaker 2: then go into pads.

457
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Speaker 1: That's the way I understood it too. I was wondering

458
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Speaker 1: if there's more to it than that. But then my

459
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Speaker 1: second thought is why wouldn't every team do that? Because

460
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Speaker 1: if I'm a player, I want that extra day of

461
00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,160
Speaker 1: summer before I report to school, you know what I mean,

462
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Speaker 1: Like I want to be with my family that time,

463
00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,879
Speaker 1: as opposed to getting one halfway through where I might

464
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Speaker 1: not even be able to sneak home. Well, you know

465
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Speaker 1: what I mean.

466
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Speaker 2: Think some of it is because the Steelers are one

467
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Speaker 2: of the few teams that still go away for camp. True,

468
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Speaker 2: I believe there's only maybe seven teams at this point

469
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Speaker 2: that still that still go away somewhere.

470
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Speaker 1: I know it's dwindling. I didn't know if that was

471
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Speaker 1: that low.

472
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Speaker 2: Some say they go like the Green Bay Packers say

473
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Speaker 2: they go away for camp, but they really don't. They're

474
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Speaker 2: still in Green Bay. The campus right right, right, The

475
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Speaker 2: campus is a mile from their team facility, right. You know, Yes,

476
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Speaker 2: they're staying in dorms there, but it's no different than

477
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Speaker 2: if they stayed at a hotel and practiced at lambeau Field.

478
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right. What's funny is, I'm sure most of them,

479
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Speaker 1: in ninety nine percent of our listeners realized that Latrobe

480
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Speaker 1: and Pittsburgh are not suburbs of each other. But I

481
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Speaker 1: have been asked that before, Like they go away to

482
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Speaker 1: you know, oh, I know your Steelers go to Saint Vincent.

483
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Speaker 1: Is that just right there in Pittsburgh? No, but yeah,

484
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Speaker 1: I mean it's where you're saying Green Bay's basically it's

485
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Speaker 1: just right. They ride bikes to practice, yeah, yah, right

486
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Speaker 1: right right right right? That?

487
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Speaker 2: No, I mean, and they you can do that easily.

488
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Speaker 2: It's you're riding through residential neighborhoods. Yeah, yeah, to get

489
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Speaker 2: to the practice facility. So yeah, I mean that that's

490
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Speaker 2: part of it. I think, you know, because those other teams,

491
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Speaker 2: those guys didn't have to leave home, right, you can

492
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Speaker 2: go ahead and do that.

493
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Speaker 1: Yeah, But as a player, I would have been appreciative

494
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Speaker 1: of how the Steelers handled it. It is ye four

495
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Speaker 1: in a row.

496
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Speaker 2: Well, and I know, Mike Tom, you know, at times

497
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Speaker 2: we'll talk to the leaders on a team.

498
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Speaker 1: And when I say leaders on the team, I mean

499
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Speaker 1: Cam Hayward, O, Cam, what do you think of that? Yeah?

500
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Speaker 1: What do you want to do?

501
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,320
Speaker 2: Here Now, I think T. J. Watt is getting to

502
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Speaker 2: that point in his career.

503
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Speaker 1: Sure where you know, I'm sure they used to run

504
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Speaker 1: it by Ben or Yeah right, all right, yeah, you know,

505
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Speaker 1: there's usually two or three guys in the locker room.

506
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Speaker 1: He'll run things by. It's cool with them, It's cool

507
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Speaker 1: with everybody.

508
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Speaker 2: And he's their player rep as well, so everybody talks

509
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Speaker 2: to him.

510
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you run it by those guys. Hey, what

511
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Speaker 1: do you think of this? Hey, how about we just

512
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Speaker 1: show up a day later.

513
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Speaker 2: A day later and we don't have a day off.

514
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Speaker 2: We'll just work straight through the weekend and then take

515
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Speaker 2: our day off mind, and.

516
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Speaker 1: Then have a nice break and then pat you know. Right,

517
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Speaker 1: So yeah, no, I like the way they set it up.

518
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Speaker 1: I'm scarce there's more to it than that. My body

519
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Speaker 1: likes the way they said it. Yeah, I mean, I'll

520
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 1: be nice to go home and you know, it's great

521
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:07,639
Speaker 1: to get this sample here and kind of tease things.

522
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Speaker 1: I mean, Tuesday, it's going to be a lot different

523
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Speaker 1: than today and yesterday. Tuesday will be night and day

524
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Speaker 1: and they'll be fresh.

525
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and they set the schedule off basically,

526
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Speaker 2: so it's basically for the first few weeks here. So

527
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Speaker 2: when they come back Tuesday, they're going to practice Tuesday

528
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Speaker 2: through Saturday or through Sunday and have Monday off, right,

529
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Speaker 2: because you've got your you got Monday's your.

530
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Speaker 1: Day off for the week.

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Speaker 2: So you go straight through and then get another day

532
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Speaker 2: off and then go straight through to the first preseason game.

533
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Speaker 1: I like, like you said, I like it for my

534
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Speaker 1: personal reasons too, because when we're done with the drive Sunday,

535
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Speaker 1: I'm going to drive home and then I can come

536
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Speaker 1: back up, you know, Tuesday morning or whatever. You know,

537
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Speaker 1: that's a nice little stint at home too. Let's not

538
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Speaker 1: pretend that you've been here well, no, I'm just talking

539
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Speaker 1: about as as the future goes. Tuesday go home for

540
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Speaker 1: a day or so. This would be my first night

541
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Speaker 1: here actually sleeping here. Not that you've been home. You

542
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Speaker 1: were off. No, I was back and forth and right,

543
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Speaker 1: but I've been home for a while.

544
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, your home no longer recognizes you, that's true.

545
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Speaker 1: They're just getting home right now, my fam There you go.

546
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Speaker 1: So hopefully were they listening in the car. Probably not,

547
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Speaker 1: Oh I'm sure not. I'm certain not. Maybe my son,

548
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 1: but I do.

549
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Speaker 2: Well, he might learn something here and we might do

550
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:22,200
Speaker 2: a little fantasy football update here in a little bit. Okay, yeah,

551
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Speaker 2: I mean practice today. So what I took out of

552
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Speaker 2: practice today a couple of things. The Patrick Peterson stuff

553
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Speaker 2: at that's big free safety, her big, playing both sides

554
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Speaker 2: of the defense, one linebacker and the.

555
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Speaker 1: First one off. I'm not saying he's a head of Golden,

556
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Speaker 1: but I found it interesting that when high Smith got

557
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Speaker 1: stepped on, he was the first one that ran out there,

558
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Speaker 1: you know, and that could.

559
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Speaker 2: Be a situation like, hey, let's get the kids some

560
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Speaker 2: extra reps. So anything like Marcus Golden doesn't need a

561
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Speaker 2: couple extra reps here.

562
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Speaker 1: Position coach might get in there.

563
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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, And that's the beauty of having a guy

564
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Speaker 2: like Marcus Golden, Oh, no question.

565
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Speaker 1: He doesn't need a lot of reps, doesn't need a

566
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Speaker 1: ton He's a perfect guy to not be a caretaker

567
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,639
Speaker 1: is the wrong word, but to be there for a

568
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Speaker 1: rookie because those top three don't need a lot of reps, herbig,

569
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Speaker 1: just give him everything he can handle. Yeah, and that's

570
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Speaker 1: the you know, that's one thing that Mike Toman does do.

571
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Speaker 1: He likes to test his rookies.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, I'm just wondering. So when they put the

573
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Speaker 2: pads on Tuesday, what like I expect to even though

574
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Speaker 2: Keanu bent is an interior defensive lineman, do you think

575
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Speaker 2: we see some Keanu Benton against Broderick Jones.

576
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Speaker 1: No, no, no, I just don't think you line him

577
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Speaker 1: up out there. I think you're asking him to do

578
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Speaker 1: something something.

579
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Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe someone on them just one straight one on

580
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 2: one drills where you would okay, we're gonna line up.

581
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Speaker 2: They don't really do that, so yeah, that's probably a

582
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Speaker 2: bad example.

583
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Speaker 1: But on Broderick Jones, maybe that would be one. I

584
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Speaker 1: would one. That was something I took away from yesterday's practice.

585
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Speaker 1: I mean, le Al you mentioned had left because of

586
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Speaker 1: the heat stuff, so we didn't see a lot of

587
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Speaker 1: him today. But I was shocked that he had a

588
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Speaker 1: rep or two, not most of his time stand up

589
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 1: as quote an outside linebacker, So maybe that's still in

590
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 1: the cards. I thought he'd be strictly between the tackles player.

591
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Speaker 2: I think you know at times they've used that in

592
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,439
Speaker 2: the past where they just kind of did a muddle

593
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Speaker 2: huddle and only one defender when they break the huddle puts.

594
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Speaker 1: His hand in the ground.

595
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Speaker 2: That yeah, yeah, And everybody else just kind of walks

596
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Speaker 2: mills about and then goes So maybe they're looking a

597
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:24,680
Speaker 2: little bit doing something like that with him.

598
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Speaker 1: Possibly, Yeah, possibly, you mentioned just impressions from practice today though.

599
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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not concerned, but I want to hear

600
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Speaker 1: about Deante, you know what I mean, he related, that's

601
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Speaker 1: what they's what they said. Yeah, okay, I mean, just

602
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 1: make sure none of those guys have anything to worry about.

603
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Speaker 1: But I'm not super concerned about that. The quarterbacks do

604
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,920
Speaker 1: the ball well all in all. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so.

605
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,399
Speaker 2: And again more play action, more motion with the with

606
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 2: the backs, things of that nature that we weren't on.

607
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,120
Speaker 1: The air, but the seven shots stuff was enjoyable to him. Yeah,

608
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 1: and more usage in the middle of the field. Yeah. Absolutely,

609
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Speaker 1: that's something I'm absolutely taking a close notice of two

610
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 1: running backs on the field together. I mean, that's something

611
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,919
Speaker 1: that's happened a few times, you know, so, I mean

612
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 1: it's something they've obviously kicked around. You don't. These reps

613
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 1: are super valuable, folks, so you don't just let's just

614
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 1: do this, you know, let's really nearly roll the dice

615
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 1: and figure out what this play call is going to

616
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 1: be or what this personnel grouping is going to be

617
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: They value it and they spend a lot of time

618
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 1: scripting and figuring out things to do here. Even if

619
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Speaker 1: it's with the threes and fours, I mean, they're still

620
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 1: going to run the plays you see in preseason. Like.

621
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Speaker 1: That's a big thing I keep talking about with this

622
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Speaker 1: year is I don't care which players are on the

623
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Speaker 1: field for those three preseason games, but I am really interested.

624
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Speaker 1: Are they going to have a third tight end on

625
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 1: the field. Are they going to have a sixth offensive lineman?

626
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,679
Speaker 1: They have two running backs together. It doesn't matter who

627
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,159
Speaker 1: the players are, because if you're repping it in the preseason,

628
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 1: I mean those reps are really valuable.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would caution, like, I'm just tooling around Twitter

630
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 2: here right now, I'm seeing some things, Well, Dan Morgut

631
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:01,640
Speaker 2: be off the edge by this, or that.

632
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 1: They're not in pads yet. No, right, right, We're not

633
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 1: getting super fired up about anything. I'm not getting fired

634
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 1: up of any D line O line matchup because frankly,

635
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 1: when we were raving about her Big earlier, one or

636
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 1: two of them was against more you know, you know,

637
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 1: and yeah, her Big beat them. I Mean, you don't

638
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: win every rep. But it's a little bit different beast too.

639
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't want to call Herbig a finesse

640
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 1: pass rusher, but he's not too seventy, you know what

641
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 1: I mean. It's almost like the version of nine on seven.

642
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 1: You know, I mean, the smaller, quicker guys are going

643
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 1: to excel until Tuesday.

644
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, because the offense I mean, and they don't want

645
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 2: their offensive lineman walking onto these guys and thumping them

646
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 2: right driving out and hit, you know, hit this guy.

647
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 2: So it's it is more of a finesse type game

648
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 2: right now.

649
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 1: It is. It is, so that does again, that's great

650
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 1: for her Big. Now he is to take the next

651
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 1: step to Tuesday. Then you just to take the next

652
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Speaker 1: step to game one and those type of things where

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Speaker 1: and hey, we'll get an eye on dam more too.

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Speaker 1: If he keeps getting beat then then we'll tell you

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Speaker 1: about it. Yeah, yeah, right, r Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But I don't read too much into these again, these

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Speaker 2: are these are ota.

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Speaker 1: Practices right right right right, slightly back, slightly advanced, but

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Speaker 1: not much. Yeah, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna you know,

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Speaker 1: oh wow, look at that.

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Speaker 2: You know, great path receivers are going to catch a

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Speaker 2: football in this situation because they know they're not going.

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Speaker 1: To get hit, absolutely, absolutely, and quarterbacks go hold the

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Speaker 1: ball a little longer and you know the pass rush

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Speaker 1: isn't gonna matter. And so just realize what you're reading

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Speaker 1: around the internet, folks, and you have some context with it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing. Keep it in context. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: take another break. He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lawlly.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio

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Speaker 2: and ESPN nine seventy. We are live from training camp

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Speaker 2: here at Saint Vincent College or the Steelers just wrapped

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Speaker 2: up day number two on the field. All the players,

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Speaker 2: well not all the players. There are still some guys

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Speaker 2: out there. Yeah, they are a little work in uh,

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Speaker 2: but they've been done for about forty minutes now, So

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Speaker 2: we're gonna take a break. We'll be back with the

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Speaker 2: end of our two right after this.

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Speaker 3: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 3: on your twenty four to seven Home of the Black

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Speaker 3: and GOLDNR Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, I william seven.

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Speaker 2: This is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio and ESPN

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Speaker 2: nine seventy.

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Speaker 1: We are live from.

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Speaker 2: Steelers training camp here at Saint Vincent College of Steelers,

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Speaker 2: wrapping up their second practice here of training camp just

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Speaker 2: a little under an hour ago. And well we're giving

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Speaker 2: you all the updates and everything from training camp here.

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Speaker 1: Still a few players out there working. Yeah, there are

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Speaker 1: story here.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to look at Matt This from the thirty

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Speaker 2: third team six trade candidates in the preseason.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I think there will be some deals couple of

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Speaker 1: years and think.

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Speaker 2: There'll be some things. There's some movement here at some point.

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Speaker 1: I also think Dalvin Cook will be signing here soon,

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Speaker 1: things like that, you know, So there'll be some name

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Speaker 1: brand people on the move.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So looking here. This was done by Jeff Diamond,

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Speaker 2: an award winning NFL executive.

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Speaker 1: I don't know who he was, to be honest, but

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Speaker 1: good for him. Yeah, his first guy, Tray Cannon.

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Speaker 2: This is on the offensive side of the ball, Trey

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Speaker 2: Lance with the forty nine ers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and this obviously effects of Steilers and you know,

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Speaker 1: week one, more and more. I don't know what Purdy's

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Speaker 1: situation is injury wise, but I think their plan is

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Speaker 1: for him to be the starter, Darnold to be the

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Speaker 1: backup and to move Lance and which.

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Speaker 2: Is crazy because they traded up just two years ago

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Speaker 2: to this guy.

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Speaker 1: And he's hardly played and I don't know what they've

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Speaker 1: soured on him, but I just think that they want

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Speaker 1: a quick processor, get it out hit these guys in

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Speaker 1: Stride accurate that they don't want the great runner.

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Speaker 2: Him and they should have thought of that before they drafted.

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Speaker 1: Him, I know. And because what happened, I mean for

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Speaker 1: people don't realize is they kind of felt like they

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Speaker 1: hit their ceiling with that type of player in Jimmy

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Speaker 1: and you know, playing against the mahomess of the world,

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Speaker 1: saying I want one of those. And I actually believe

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Speaker 1: the rumors now that Shanahan won in mac Jones that

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Speaker 1: he didn't want Lance and because that is who mac

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Speaker 1: Jones was in Bama and is at his best day now.

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Speaker 1: Is that prety type, that Jimmy type. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: think we differ on Lance. I don't feel strong about

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Speaker 1: it because there's nothing to see from the guys prob

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Speaker 1: him that there's just nothing there. Yeah, But if I

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Speaker 1: was like the Bucks or Minnesota. Why I have mentioned

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Speaker 1: Minnesota is because Cousins is up after this year and

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Speaker 1: he's super expensive. If I was a team like that.

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Speaker 1: I would love to have Lance sitting on my bench

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Speaker 1: for now or competing or something like that, because I

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Speaker 1: bet you could get him second round pick, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean. He's contrasts almost. It's almost like Jordan Love.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you don't trade for him now, they have

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Speaker 2: to see him in training camp. You're not going to

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Speaker 2: get that opportunity.

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Speaker 1: No, you should trade it for a month ago before

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Speaker 1: you picked it, right, I have to pick up his

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Speaker 1: fifty year options. Yeah, exactly exactly. I mean that was

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Speaker 1: like again, it's kind of like Jordan Love, like the

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Speaker 1: team that owns them has them, knows them, but the

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Speaker 1: other people don't know any different than when he was

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Speaker 1: in college, didn't play it last year either.

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Speaker 2: We're talking about a guy who since he went to college,

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Speaker 2: which you know, you're talking like twenty sixteen or twenty eighteen,

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Speaker 2: twenty seventeen, whatever the year that was, he's still like

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Speaker 2: less than five hundred passes.

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Speaker 1: Right, right, I would still think there's interest. But you're right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, because he's the what second pick in the draft? Uh? Three? Three?

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Speaker 1: I mean as rookies go, his contract's expensive. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's not like he's nothing cheapy and he probably can't

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Speaker 1: start him this year. Maybe the Bucks would, I mean,

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Speaker 1: maybe you know someone like that, But there aren't many

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Speaker 1: starting spots for him. And again, he should have done

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Speaker 1: it a month ago if you wanted them, so, I

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Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah, he would.

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Speaker 2: Almost have to go somewhere where you already have a

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Speaker 2: mobile quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I was thinking that too. Place. It was a red

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Speaker 1: flag to me when Tennessee, who's GM came from the Niners,

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Speaker 1: didn't make a instead went for Levis, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean, like, maybe there's more wrong with him than

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Speaker 1: we know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, yeah, I don't know that, but that's

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Speaker 2: interesting again the fact that situation handed the job to

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Speaker 2: brock Purty, who right, really hasn't played all that much more.

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Speaker 1: No, right, I mean, Lance was a weird draft prospect

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Speaker 1: because of the COVID year and they didn't play that

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Speaker 1: last round like two hundred and sixty college passes, right, right,

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Speaker 1: and now his career is really weird. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Next up on the list, and the potential trade partners

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Speaker 2: are Tampa Bay.

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Speaker 1: I didn't think that, Okay, Atlanta and Lanta, I'd be interested, Washington,

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Speaker 1: I'd be interested. Those are good ones.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, those are the ones that they list, but all

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Speaker 2: NFC teams are the forty nine ers gonna want to

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Speaker 2: trade him in the NFC?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, good question. I mean I wouldn't be too afraid

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Speaker 1: of those teams if I were them in terms of

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Speaker 1: their wins. Yeah right. How about this one, Chase Claypool,

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Speaker 1: his contracts up after the year.

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Speaker 2: His contract is up after the year. They just gave

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Speaker 2: up a second round pick to the Steelers for him.

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Speaker 1: In a way, it's similar like you can't look at

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Speaker 1: what you paid for him. You overpaid, You didn't get

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Speaker 1: what you got back. You know what you wanted back. Now.

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Speaker 2: When they made the trade for Chase Claypool, they had

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Speaker 2: a better record than the Green Bay Packers, who were

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Speaker 2: also offering right deal for Chase Claypool. The Steelers and

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Speaker 2: Omar Kahan decided to take the Bears offer, looking ahead

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Speaker 2: and saying we think the Bears are going to be worse,

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Speaker 2: and they were right because being the number one pick

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Speaker 2: of the second round, which he then flipped into Joey Porter, h.

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Speaker 1: Base pick would have been mid second right, fifteen picks later,

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Speaker 1: and you probably don't get Joey Port. Oh, I'm sure

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Speaker 1: you don't. Yeah, so lucky you give them thirty two. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, but it would shock me if they actually

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Speaker 1: shopped him.

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Speaker 2: They had Darnell Mooney, they traded for DJ Moore, right,

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Speaker 2: which means Claypool is probably your number three.

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Speaker 1: They just paid Comet. Yeah, I mean, I know they're

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Speaker 1: different positions, but you know, a big slot. Comet do

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Speaker 1: some of that too, And Claypool.

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Speaker 2: Opened up the practices on the pup list, which doesn't

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Speaker 2: help his cause.

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Speaker 1: No, but man, I mean again, it doesn't matter what

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Speaker 1: you paid for him, but you're not gonna get anything

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Speaker 1: close to a second no. Yeah, I mean, and that's

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Speaker 1: only what six games later? Boy? Yeah, your your GM

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Speaker 1: is going to eat that. Yeah, I think you get

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Speaker 1: a fifth forum or something. I don't even if you

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Speaker 1: get that. I don't know if you get that right. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's not super expensive, but you only get him for

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Speaker 1: these sixteen games. I don't know. I mean, if you

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Speaker 1: were the Bills, would you be interested or something like that?

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Speaker 1: I don't think. Yeah, I need a receiver injury to

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Speaker 1: make that call. Now. The salary is only three million

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Speaker 1: dollars this year, but yeah, I mean I think he's

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Speaker 1: keep them.

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Speaker 2: Options for trade partners include Atlanta where he could They.

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Speaker 1: Like big receivers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Another possibility would be the Patriots. Okay, they missed

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Speaker 2: out on DeAndre Hopkins.

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Speaker 1: That would make sense. The Colts, I mean they want

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Speaker 1: The thing is like all those teams. People made fun

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Speaker 1: of me when the Steelers drafted him. He's just Sklaypool

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Speaker 1: plays special teams. He blocks, so like, we don't care

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Speaker 1: about that from the receiver, right, but he hasn't done

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Speaker 1: those since in the pros, right, Like, I mean, if

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Speaker 1: you're all those teams are run first, physical teams. He

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Speaker 1: needs a block on the outside. He can't be dancing

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Speaker 1: around playing patty Cake, I mean just because he's big.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know who the fit is.

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Speaker 2: And the final one is the Saints. Is Michael Thomas insurance?

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, maybe he's sort of a jack of all trades,

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Speaker 1: master of none. Now yeah, yeah, you don't want them

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Speaker 1: to be in the pickings outside the number gope and

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Speaker 1: get a guy. He hasn't successfully switched the slot. He's

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Speaker 1: been hurt a lot. He doesn't block enough, but he's

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Speaker 1: not terrible. I'm not bashing the guy because he's gone.

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Speaker 1: I mean he had some value. Yeah, there's value there

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Speaker 1: it's just what's the value going to be? Right? The

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Speaker 1: other guy here offensive least Cordery Patterson. Hmmm, he's kind

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Speaker 1: of stuck. Now. I've heard some things that he might

847
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Speaker 1: run more routes than he used to. He never play

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Speaker 1: running back. He never did it. Well, yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean he was always we get the ball in

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Speaker 1: his hand type guy. I think he's like thirty three,

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Speaker 1: he's thirty two.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, are you get to trade for a

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Speaker 2: guy who's basically at this point in his career going

854
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Speaker 2: to be your kick returner when sure the league is

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Speaker 2: the emphasized kicks.

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Speaker 1: Maybe nothing right, yea, yeah, there's very little value anymore.

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Speaker 1: Would you rather sign for Nette than give up a

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Speaker 1: draft pick for him? I'm not even talking about Dalwvin Cook.

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Speaker 1: Of course you're out of Dalwin Cook on your team,

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Speaker 1: But I mean, like for Net or a Hunter or

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Speaker 1: an Elliott or somebody like that. Probably probably, yeah, right,

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Speaker 1: there's a third instead of a thirty three year old

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Speaker 1: guy that but he's not going to do anything for Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: The Seattle Seahawks are one potential trade partner. They just

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Speaker 1: drafted a running back the last two years in the

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Speaker 1: second round.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, how you looking at him? Is he a

868
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 2: running back? Is he a return guy? The Denver Broncos

869
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 2: best as.

870
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Speaker 1: A running back? Yeah, maybe Denver if Dravante.

871
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:57,280
Speaker 2: Is not well in Denver average a league worse seventeen

872
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,240
Speaker 2: point five yards per kick return last.

873
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 1: Year and realize that. But just another thing. They were

874
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 1: really bad at.

875
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 2: Lest or the Dolphins who averaged eighteen point nine yards

876
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 2: per kick return last year.

877
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,320
Speaker 1: So if you're they're just looking after a kick return line, yeah,

878
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 1: I mean it played some running back from Miami.

879
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:16,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, Trey Cannon is on the defensive side of things.

880
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,879
Speaker 1: Chase Young, Yes, I think that's real, but I don't

881
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 1: think he'd be cheap.

882
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 2: And no, folks, he's not coming out. He's not coming

883
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 2: to Pittsburgh, right. We just I keep seeing that floated

884
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 2: out there that the Steelers are interested, and it all

885
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 2: stems from the sideline conversation that Mike Tomlin had with

886
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 2: him right right, three years ago. Oh, we don't draft

887
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 2: high enough to get you. They're paying their two outside

888
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 2: linebackers they kind of combined, I don't know, thirty two

889
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 2: million dollars or even more than that this year on

890
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 2: the cap. You're not trading for another.

891
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: One of those guys. No, I mean, especially especially after

892
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 1: the Golden signing and the drafting of her Big as well.

893
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 1: I mean, we kind of knew the Heigtsmith signing was

894
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: going to happen no matter.

895
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 2: Anybody who writes that now, anybody who wrote it before

896
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:03,399
Speaker 2: was just making stuff up.

897
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: Making stuff up. I mean, yeah, every team would like

898
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 1: to have him, but at a minimum, I think he

899
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 1: costs you a second round pick, and he's making big

900
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 1: money as rookie contracts go, and he's up after the year,

901
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 1: so he's gonna want He's gonna cost you a second

902
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 1: rounder and a contract extension, you know, like it's not

903
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 1: gonna be cheap. It's not gonna be cheap. Like I'm

904
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 1: sure coach Tomlin, like Nick Bosa coming out of school too, right,

905
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 1: you know, like Watt, Yeah, next up on here. It

906
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 1: was the candidates for him. I'm just curious, like I

907
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 1: would be interested.

908
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 2: Chicago's the one that they have money and they have

909
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:40,800
Speaker 2: no pass, right, Yeah, because.

910
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 1: It's eleven million dollar cap hit, I'll take him. Then

911
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 1: you probably have to extent and then you get yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.

912
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 2: You're gonna have I mean, the Steelers really gonna have

913
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,240
Speaker 2: fifty million dollars wrapped up in three edge rushers.

914
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 1: The only thing about Chase Young that's worth noting is

915
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 1: he was not good before his injury last year, you know, right,

916
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:00,720
Speaker 1: m The next guy to here is Buddha Baker.

917
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 2: I thought they extended They did extend him, but that

918
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 2: doesn't mean that they don't want to Okay, I thought

919
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:08,439
Speaker 2: I thought that was that's probably less likely.

920
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

921
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 2: They list the Eagles the Giants as potential trade partners there.

922
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 2: Uh And the final one on here is uh Patrick Queen.

923
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 1: Oh, I could see that. Yeah. I mean he's a

924
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 1: free agent after the year, didn't pick up his option.

925
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 1: They're not going to pay him. They drafted, drafted Trent

926
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: and Simpson. Yeah, I mean they have a lot of

927
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 1: money invested in Rokuan. You do not want too expensive linebackers.

928
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 1: I mean there's a question if you want one at

929
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 1: in today's day and age, unless they're great, which I

930
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 1: think Roquan is. I didn't like Queen coming out of LSU,

931
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: and I haven't been impressed with them With the Ravens.

932
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 2: No, nor have I you know, undersized and yeah, it

933
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 2: doesn't make a real impact.

934
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 1: I don't know that every team but even look at

935
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:51,240
Speaker 1: him as a starter.

936
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 2: There'd be some tame teams here, and yeah, teams listed

937
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 2: as potential trade partners.

938
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:01,439
Speaker 1: The Minnesota Vikings, Okay, that would make some sense, sure

939
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 1: their defense needs an overhaul. The other one is the Steelers,

940
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 1: and I don't know. I'm sure the Ravens and Steelers

941
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: are going to make a deal. Yeah, I don't know.

942
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: I don't see that happening for right. I know they

943
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 1: traded for Chris Warmley folks the way back when, but

944
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: they're not gonna make it.

945
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 2: They're not going to hand the Steelers Patrick Queen. As

946
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 2: much as we don't like him. No, he's still a

947
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 2: starter in Baltimore. They're't going to hand the Steelers a

948
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 2: starting linebacker, right right right?

949
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 1: No, that that's a foolish wonder For that, I'm sure

950
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 1: you could come up with some some teams in need linebackers.

951
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 1: I would. I'll throw you a fourth or fifth round

952
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: pick for him. Yeah, see how it goes. But Pittsford

953
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 1: is all one.

954
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,479
Speaker 2: That being said, I wouldn't mind seeing the Steelers add

955
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 2: if they're If they're going to add something somewhere, that

956
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 2: would be the spot where I could see it happening.

957
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I added Kiwakowski, you know, and but

958
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: he's he's closer to uh uh he is Jack Lambert,

959
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 1: you know.

960
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 2: And there's some value to that because the Steelers linebackers

961
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 2: played fewer different special team snaps than any other team

962
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 2: in the league.

963
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, you mentioned that off the air. I hadn't realized that.

964
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 1: But it is a big deal. I mean, it is

965
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 1: a big deal.

966
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 2: But those backup linebackers also better be able to play

967
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 2: a little bit.

968
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

969
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I don't know if Kwai Kowsky is that

970
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 2: guy or yeah, we'll see, you know, tannerm muses that guy.

971
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Speaker 1: I don't believe. So I don't know ione's excited about it.

972
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 2: I was excited about Mark Robinson, but as Taroll Austin said,

973
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 2: he's still a year away at this point. The guy's

974
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 2: played inside linebacker now for two seasons. When they drafted him,

975
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 2: he was a year away from being a year away, right,

976
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 2: and he's a seventh round draft. Let's not get carried

977
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 2: away with you.

978
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 1: I know he can run and he has some splash plays,

979
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 1: but there's a lot of negatives and there's reasons he's

980
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: not out there now.

981
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 2: That being said, I want to see what he does

982
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 2: with the when the pads come on next week. I expect,

983
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 2: I fully expect him to lead the Steelers and tackles

984
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 2: this preseason. Good call, because he's going to be on

985
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 2: the field a lot.

986
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 1: He's be on the field a lot, but I want

987
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 1: to I want to see what he looks like in

988
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 1: some of these passing drills. Yeah, one on one, it'd

989
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 1: be fun for us. I'm I'm not trying to pick

990
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 1: on the guy, but I bet it just because he's

991
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 1: a year away from me in your way when we

992
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 1: start watching Live eleven on eleven's right in front of

993
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 1: us here, I bet he's not always where he's supposed

994
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 1: to be. Probably what I.

995
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,879
Speaker 2: Mean, probably right, But yeah, we're gonna take a break.

996
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:09,839
Speaker 2: He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale, Lolly.

997
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 1: You wouldn't consider giving up a third round pick for

998
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 1: a legit linebacker? I mean, like a good pick for

999
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 1: I don't have a name off the top of my head,

1000
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 1: but it would.

1001
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 2: Depend on where they're at in their career, A contract

1002
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 2: and that kind of stuff.

1003
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 1: Right, I mean, not a Minka type deal, but like

1004
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 1: not a throwaway deal either. I don't know. I'd need

1005
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: to have a name. Yeah, yeah before I don't have

1006
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 1: one off the top of my head.

1007
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna take a break. He is Matt Williamson.

1008
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 2: I am Dale Lolly. We are live from training camp

1009
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 2: here at Saint Fencent College of Steelers. Finished up day

1010
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 2: number two here on the field a little bit ago.

1011
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 1: We're going to be back.

1012
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 2: We still have an hour left to go here, so

1013
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 2: don't you go anywhere. We'll be back with more right

1014
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 2: after this.