Speaker 1: Welcome into the Official Jets Podcast. I'm Erica on here
Speaker 1: at one Jets Drive, joined by former Jets running back
Speaker 1: Blah Paul BP. How are you.
Speaker 2: I'm doing well. What's going on? Eric?
Speaker 1: Well, you know what, let's start right there. What's going on?
Speaker 1: Next week? We're going to Indianapolis for the NFL Scouting Combine.
Speaker 1: So the NFL offseason really heads into another gear. So
Speaker 1: you were a fourth round pick out of Louisville way
Speaker 1: back in twenty eleven. What are your combine experiences?
Speaker 3: What were your So my combined experience, I went in,
Speaker 3: I was injured. I had a hamstring injury, and you know,
Speaker 3: by my agent, I was told to kind of shut
Speaker 3: it down. And during that time, you know, you, I
Speaker 3: was a guy that I was late brown, mid round
Speaker 3: type of guy, and I was just trying to get
Speaker 3: my draft right up. So he was like, listen, don't
Speaker 3: don't let any of the scouts kind of push you
Speaker 3: into doing something that's gonna, you know, jeopardize you, you know,
Speaker 3: getting hurt worse than what you are or or affected
Speaker 3: anything that you have going going into the draft. Were
Speaker 3: sitting down, So the only thing that I did was
Speaker 3: the bench. But it was it was. It was a
Speaker 3: good experience for me. Uh, it was dreaming. I would
Speaker 3: say that it was very draining, but a very good
Speaker 3: experience to see guys, you know, from around the country
Speaker 3: to come participate in something that they've been dreaming, you
Speaker 3: know about, all their lives and just compete and build
Speaker 3: relationships going on into our careers.
Speaker 1: So you did the bench how many times? With two
Speaker 1: twenty five?
Speaker 3: For two twenty five, I did eighteen. I was like,
Speaker 3: I was like in the middle of the pack, you know,
Speaker 3: I wasn't.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: I think Shane Veren, who was one of the smallest
Speaker 3: backs at the time, had the highest number. I think
Speaker 3: he hit like twenty five, and I think everybody was shocked.
Speaker 3: But I was like in the middle of pack with
Speaker 3: my repetition.
Speaker 1: So was that an all pr for you?
Speaker 3: I was expecting to get twenty plus, But you know,
Speaker 3: when I got injured with the hamstring, it kind of
Speaker 3: set me back with my training because I was more
Speaker 3: focused on like just rehabbing it and trying to get
Speaker 3: back healthy. So it kind of took away from everything
Speaker 3: else like preparing for the draft.
Speaker 2: You know, like my speed, my strength.
Speaker 3: I was just mainly trying to hill up, and you know,
Speaker 3: I was kind of upset that I was shooting for
Speaker 3: twenty twenty plus, but you know, I was okay with
Speaker 3: eighteen obviously now nine years and with the New York Jets,
Speaker 3: I was still pleased with eighteen reps.
Speaker 1: What's it like when everybody's around and watching you. You
Speaker 1: were only able to participate in the bench, but just
Speaker 1: that moment where all eyes are on you and there's
Speaker 1: a lot of noise. As far as just that performance.
Speaker 3: Honestly, it was very encouraging because everyone in the group,
Speaker 3: in the running back group, we had about third the
Speaker 3: eight guys for the guys, and everyone was cheering for
Speaker 3: each other. So it was it gave you an extra
Speaker 3: juice to you, that extra energy to go out and
Speaker 3: just compete.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: The high level energy that not only do the players
Speaker 3: were given, but the coaches were encouraging players. They do
Speaker 3: a good job of encouraging players, giving good instructions on
Speaker 3: what to do at the combine. So you know, going
Speaker 3: through that whole process, man, it was really no pressure
Speaker 3: on you as far as worrying about criticism or anything,
Speaker 3: but it was more so just going against yourself and
Speaker 3: just being the best that you could be in your results.
Speaker 1: I was talking to somebody the personnel department yesterday Blau,
Speaker 1: and he said that NFL teams now are allowed to
Speaker 1: have forty five formal interviews. I think back in twenty
Speaker 1: eleven was probably thirty. Were the Jets one of your
Speaker 1: formal interviews in Indianapolis or was it an informal interview?
Speaker 3: New York Jets actually interviewed me at the Senior Bowl,
Speaker 3: they interviewed me at the Combine, and they actually flew
Speaker 3: me in for, you know, an interview down the flown Park.
Speaker 3: So they were one of the very few teams that
Speaker 3: interviewed me multiple times. And I kind of had this
Speaker 3: idea that they really liked me and I was going
Speaker 3: to be a New York Jet at the time. I
Speaker 3: was hoping to be a New York Jet, especially when
Speaker 3: Rex Ryan being there and Mike Tanemahm and Anthony Land.
Speaker 3: But you know, it was definitely like I said, man,
Speaker 3: it was draining. It was back to back. But man,
Speaker 3: I really enjoyed all three of my interviews with the
Speaker 3: New York Jets because of the energy that Rex Ryan
Speaker 3: brought in everyone. I mean, every interview with him was
Speaker 3: it was same energy but just different questions and it
Speaker 3: just kept you on age. And you know, I was
Speaker 3: excited to be a Jet. Honestly, I was hoping to
Speaker 3: be a Jet at the time.
Speaker 1: We all know he's got such a larger than life personality.
Speaker 1: But what made you gravitate towards.
Speaker 3: Him, It was just him him saying, Hey, listen, I
Speaker 3: don't want you to come be anyone else that that
Speaker 3: ever came through this, this National Football League. I want
Speaker 3: you to come be you. We're drafting you because of you.
Speaker 3: And uh, you know that's that's that very well with me.
Speaker 3: And I was able to relax in most of my
Speaker 3: interviews with the New York Jets, you know, having everybody
Speaker 3: and you know, I don't I don't know if people
Speaker 3: realize you have the GM in there, you have position coaches,
Speaker 3: you have all these different people in the department and
Speaker 3: the organization sitting in these in these interviews. But in
Speaker 3: the New York Jets interview, I felt the most comfortable.
Speaker 2: I don't know why.
Speaker 3: I don't know, you know, I don't know if it
Speaker 3: was Rex just you know, he don't he doesn't give
Speaker 3: you a.
Speaker 2: Chance when you walk through the door. He's Rex Ryan.
Speaker 3: As soon as you walk through the door, and uh,
Speaker 3: you know, even if you're a quiet guy like myself,
Speaker 3: he brings that out of you. And you know, but
Speaker 3: it made it made me comfortable with you know, just
Speaker 3: relaxing and.
Speaker 2: Talking about football and just talking about life.
Speaker 3: And what I really liked is how they they focus
Speaker 3: more so on the on the personal side than they
Speaker 3: did football. Like you know, the other ones were, Hey,
Speaker 3: as soon as you get in there, you're drawing up
Speaker 3: plays and you talk on football. Where you know, Rex
Speaker 3: was like, hey, you know what's going on? Relax, you know,
Speaker 3: water and all these I was like, wow, is this
Speaker 3: you know what's going on? Because all these other ones
Speaker 3: you know, being full but man, like I said, Rex,
Speaker 3: Ryan did a good job of guiding those interviews.
Speaker 1: What would what kind of advice would you give the
Speaker 1: guys or heading to Indianapolis next week who are about
Speaker 1: to embark on their NFL careers.
Speaker 2: My biggest advice is just go in being yourself.
Speaker 3: No one else can't be you, no matter how much
Speaker 3: preparation you do from you know, boardwork or uh, you know,
Speaker 3: from a performance standpoint on the field or anything like that.
Speaker 3: You know, obviously your medical records they handle themselves, because
Speaker 3: that's a big part of the combine them making a
Speaker 3: big investment on you. So obviously the medical side, but
Speaker 3: the biggest advice is go be, Go be you. You know,
Speaker 3: that's the easiest person that you can be in this
Speaker 3: world is yourself. And uh, you know, eventually the team
Speaker 3: that really likes you. You know, all thirty two teams
Speaker 3: do not have to like you. All it takes is
Speaker 3: one team to like you, and that right team in drafts.
Speaker 1: If somebody would have caught you in the hallway in
Speaker 1: Indianapolis back in eleven, in the spring of eleven that
Speaker 1: said you were gonna have a nine year career in
Speaker 1: the National Football League and all those years were gonna
Speaker 1: be with the New York Jets. What wood you had said.
Speaker 3: I probably would have had to pinch myself. I'm like,
Speaker 3: nine years one team. I don't know who is this
Speaker 3: guy telling me this? But you know, obviously listen, it
Speaker 3: was it was very hard. You know, one thing that
Speaker 3: I tell tell my young players that are coached Harrol is,
Speaker 3: you know the thing about being a good player a
Speaker 3: great player is the consistency. And I think that's the
Speaker 3: that's the hardest part of being a professional is just
Speaker 3: maintaining consistency throughout your career. You know, you can't look
Speaker 3: too far ahead, and when you get to a certain point,
Speaker 3: you can't look too far back. You have to just
Speaker 3: be president in the moment every day. It's a very
Speaker 3: brutal business and competitive business. You have to you have
Speaker 3: to be in that moment, man, and just cherish that moment.
Speaker 1: So you join an organization where the Jets were coached
Speaker 1: by Rex Ryan Data appeared in the AFC Championship game
Speaker 1: in both nine and ten. Were you thinking that, Hey, listen,
Speaker 1: I'm not only going to a place that I wanted
Speaker 1: to go to, but this is a team that is
Speaker 1: going to be in the playoff mix every year.
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
Speaker 3: So when I sat down and Rex's office in Fluent
Speaker 3: Park and he put on his highlight tape of Play
Speaker 3: like a Jet, and he's highlighting all these players at
Speaker 3: the time that we were on the roster, and I'm
Speaker 3: seeing AFC Championships. I'm seeing you know, bar Scott's interview
Speaker 3: of Can't Wait, and I'm seeing Jericho Crotri Cartrie, you know,
Speaker 3: diving football after a growing injury, and I'm like, that's
Speaker 3: what i want to do, And that's that's that's what
Speaker 3: I want to walk to. I want to help this
Speaker 3: organization continue that that that mindset. And you know, unfortunately,
Speaker 3: you know, I never I never got to the playoffs.
Speaker 3: But you know, at a certain point in time in
Speaker 3: my career, I knew that I wanted to stay a
Speaker 3: jat no matter what.
Speaker 1: All Right, So twenty eleven, if social media platforms were
Speaker 1: to the height they are right now, how much more
Speaker 1: difficult would that have been for you? As far as Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm a rookie. I was just drafted in the fourth round.
Speaker 1: I only play in two games.
Speaker 3: Honestly, I didn't even have social media at the time, Eric, Right,
Speaker 3: I was so focused that I was kind of like, listen,
Speaker 3: I got to get away from this. I was locked
Speaker 3: in every day, just a pressure of not knowing the
Speaker 3: you know, the security of your job and a guy
Speaker 3: that didn't play. I didn't play but a couple of games,
Speaker 3: and you know, I was seeing guys get cut left
Speaker 3: and right. So my main focus was not entertain anybody
Speaker 3: else outside of what I was handling. Uh, in the
Speaker 3: in the business, in the in the building.
Speaker 1: With Danny and Tomlinson. You latched on to him right away.
Speaker 1: Didn't you I did.
Speaker 3: He was he was. He was definitely a guy that
Speaker 3: just naturally had that leadership about him. Didn't have to
Speaker 3: speak much.
Speaker 2: He was.
Speaker 3: He was not a big talker. I think his actions,
Speaker 3: uh said more than his words. And when he spoke,
Speaker 3: he was the guy very few words, but when he spoke,
Speaker 3: he said.
Speaker 2: He said a lot. And uh, you know a lot
Speaker 2: of guys listen.
Speaker 3: So the biggest thing that I admire about l T
Speaker 3: is the fact that he didn't he didn't hate me.
Speaker 3: I didn't have to go through any rookie hazing. So uh,
Speaker 3: you know, I vouched to myself that day, that or
Speaker 3: that year that I would never do it to any
Speaker 3: rookie or you know, give a rookie of our time.
Speaker 3: He made me feel comfortable coming into the National Football League,
Speaker 3: and you know, I got an I got the privilege
Speaker 3: that a lot of guys didn't get. They they didn't
Speaker 3: come into the business with a future Hall of Famer
Speaker 3: in front of them showing them how this thing is
Speaker 3: supposed to work out and how it works out if
Speaker 3: you do certain things. And you know, I take my
Speaker 3: hat off to Ludanian for that being the leader that
Speaker 3: he's been the consistency of not not only what he
Speaker 3: was doing on the field, but off the field as well.
Speaker 1: So you experienced a career breakthrough. And we're going to
Speaker 1: around a little bit here on the pod. But twenty fifteen,
Speaker 1: when you guys are ten and five heading the Buffalo,
Speaker 1: you had an incredible game against the Patriots at home
Speaker 1: in overtime victory the week prior. Can you talk about
Speaker 1: your recollections of those final two weeks and also how
Speaker 1: much you actually think about fifteen.
Speaker 3: I think about it a lot, honestly, And that I
Speaker 3: always mentioned is I think we were that team that
Speaker 3: if we got into the playoffs, no one wanted to play.
Speaker 3: I mean, we just had everything going in the right direction.
Speaker 3: Uh We we finally figured out our pieces on the
Speaker 3: offensive side of the ball, the defense was playing well.
Speaker 3: We had Eric Derker, Brandon Marshall on the outside, Chris
Speaker 3: Ivory and myself in the backfield. I mean we just
Speaker 3: we just was that team that you you had to
Speaker 3: you had to always be ready to play football. I
Speaker 3: think we were the team that you just couldn't narrow
Speaker 3: in on one.
Speaker 2: Or two guys.
Speaker 3: It was just explosive from all different angles, and you know,
Speaker 3: to watch us put on that five game run, leading
Speaker 3: into you know, New England and beating them in the overtime. Unfortunately,
Speaker 3: I got injured in that game, high ankle, spring, couldn't
Speaker 3: play in Buffalo.
Speaker 2: Wanted to play in Buffalo. Eric I actually asked, I
Speaker 2: wanted to play.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wanted to play in the game because I knew, Man,
Speaker 3: if we got in I knew what we could have done,
Speaker 3: because we were that team that was just late in
Speaker 3: the season that just became special. And you know, some
Speaker 3: teams they get into the playoffs and November some teams
Speaker 3: November guys getting put out of the playoffs, and you know,
Speaker 3: just the energy that the fans were bringing later in
Speaker 3: the season, not not just the home games, but the
Speaker 3: way I mean things were traveling, and you know, obviously
Speaker 3: the love that you get around the city. You know,
Speaker 3: it was unmatched at the time.
Speaker 1: Speaking of the special Blah, What are your thoughts on
Speaker 1: Breas Hall and what he was able to accomplish in
Speaker 1: year two after coming off in ACL and what's ahead
Speaker 1: for him.
Speaker 2: I like I like Greece. I like his game. He
Speaker 2: could do everything.
Speaker 3: I think he's a three down bag, a true three
Speaker 3: down back, a guy you can line up outside, you
Speaker 3: can hand to hand them off. He can run inside
Speaker 3: and outside, he can block, he can catch the ball.
Speaker 3: But what's the most impressive thing with me is the
Speaker 3: fact that Briese can create so many yards after contact,
Speaker 3: and that's what you need at a national football league
Speaker 3: because there's not gonna be many times where he's just
Speaker 3: running through an open hole. And I think he's one
Speaker 3: of the most explosive running backs. When you get him
Speaker 3: to the second level. We can see this guy go
Speaker 3: to distance at any time, especially at his size twenty five.
Speaker 3: That's a big back that can you get up to
Speaker 3: twenty miles an hour, especially coming off in ACL. You know,
Speaker 3: just to see what he did, not many bats are
Speaker 3: able to bounce back like that off an ACL, but
Speaker 3: to see what he did coming off of ACL is
Speaker 3: very impressive and I'm excited to see.
Speaker 2: What he has moving forward in his career.
Speaker 1: What is his potential because you're talking about a guy
Speaker 1: who finished second in the AFC in terms of yards
Speaker 1: from yards from scrimmage, only behind Tyreek Hill. On the
Speaker 1: opposite conference, you're talking about Christian mccaff free, who a
Speaker 1: lot of people think is the best back in the
Speaker 1: league right now. But what is Bree's potential?
Speaker 2: Honestly, you just named it.
Speaker 3: You put him in the category with guys that have
Speaker 3: been consistent throughout their career and guys that are always
Speaker 3: mentioned at the top tier in their position. So you
Speaker 3: know when you mentioned bris Hall, I think he has
Speaker 3: that potential to go on and have a great career.
Speaker 3: And you know, if he stays healthy enough, I think
Speaker 3: he could be a guy that could get into the
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame, you know, because he's able to now
Speaker 3: touch the ball, especially with the way the game has
Speaker 3: evolved more going.
Speaker 2: Sixty to forty pass now.
Speaker 3: Back in the day, running backs were getting you know,
Speaker 3: four three hundred carries a year, where now guys are
Speaker 3: getting the worried more so about touches, and I think
Speaker 3: if you give bres Hall enough touches, he could be
Speaker 3: a future Hall of Famer.
Speaker 1: Wow, you didn't retire that long ago. What do you
Speaker 1: think about the evolutional of the way backs are used,
Speaker 1: even compared to just a couple of years ago when
Speaker 1: you hung up the cleats.
Speaker 2: I think the game has evolved.
Speaker 3: I mean it's almost like black and white now, because
Speaker 3: when I first came to the league, it was power football,
Speaker 3: it was downhill football.
Speaker 2: Linebackers were bigger.
Speaker 3: Now you're starting to see smaller linebackers because they had
Speaker 3: their force to they're forced to cover backs out of
Speaker 3: the backfield. Now I think, I think running backs now
Speaker 3: need to eliminate carries and they need to think about touches.
Speaker 3: And I was told that years ago by Anthony Lamb,
Speaker 3: my running back coaches. He was like, hey, listen, don't
Speaker 3: worry so much about the carries. Worry about touches. Worry
Speaker 3: about touches. You know, your yards per touch, not your
Speaker 3: yards per carry, and that will eventually come with success.
Speaker 2: And now you're starting to see that.
Speaker 3: Now you're starting to see more so the running back
Speaker 3: committee where you know, you kind of get away from
Speaker 3: the work courses because you rarely find a guy that
Speaker 3: has to come that can't, that can on the field
Speaker 3: for three downs, So you're forced to go out and
Speaker 3: get a guy that compliments him. So when you mentioned
Speaker 3: Bridge Hall, when you mentioned Christian McCaffery.
Speaker 2: Those guys are rare.
Speaker 3: The Saquon Barkley guys that can catch the ball, block
Speaker 3: through all these things, those are the rare guys.
Speaker 2: Those are the guys that I.
Speaker 3: Look at that position that need that need to be
Speaker 3: paid honestly and valued when you're talking about the running
Speaker 3: back position, because right now, you know the big thing
Speaker 3: is them undervaluing the running back position. Those are the
Speaker 3: type of special guys that you have to pay based
Speaker 3: on them, not just coming off the field.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, you're coaching at the high
Speaker 1: school level now, and I'm going to get to that
Speaker 1: in a second. But where are we going in the
Speaker 1: NFL game? Offensively? What do the playoffs tell you as
Speaker 1: far as like you're talking about space and touches regarding
Speaker 1: specifically the running backs, but there are ibs and flows
Speaker 1: right in the league that okay, we go from a
Speaker 1: power game through a space game. When you watch Kansas
Speaker 1: City and San Francisco in the Super Bowl, or even
Speaker 1: Kansas City make the run, what do you think about
Speaker 1: the changes that are taking place right now?
Speaker 3: Honestly, just from an offensive standpoint, the creativity that these
Speaker 3: offenser coordinators or are just calling and creating. They're just
Speaker 3: putting defenses and minds, and you know they have to
Speaker 3: account for so much. From a from a defensive standpoint,
Speaker 3: it's not just line up playing football anymore. It's so
Speaker 3: many different things that offensive coaches are starting to do
Speaker 3: is find ways to get creative, to get the guys
Speaker 3: that are going to help you win the ball. And
Speaker 3: that's causing, uh, that's causing stress for defenses that we saw.
Speaker 3: And you know, obviously that Super Bowl, that Super Bowl game,
Speaker 3: if you look at the total yardist sometimes the points
Speaker 3: don't add up to it. I think Kansas City still
Speaker 3: had four hundred and fifty yards of total offense in
Speaker 3: that game, and you know, obviously San Francisco had around
Speaker 3: three eighty. You know, even with the low scoring game
Speaker 3: that it was going into, you know, over time, it
Speaker 3: still was a good game plan from defensively. So now
Speaker 3: I think the defenses are starting to adjust to the
Speaker 3: creativity that these offenses are thrown out. And then I
Speaker 3: kind of see in a couple of years that the
Speaker 3: offensive side of the ball start reverting back to the
Speaker 3: old school mentality, bringing in the fullbacks and you know,
Speaker 3: getting down here running the ball more and causing those
Speaker 3: smaller linebackers to now run field on a fullback that's
Speaker 3: you know two point fifty. And now you're talking about
Speaker 3: smaller linebackers versus fullbacks, and I kind of see a
Speaker 3: shift of it probably reverting back to the old school
Speaker 3: way here and here in a few years.
Speaker 1: I love the game within the game thirty thousand foot view.
Speaker 1: Where are the Jets as a team heading into the
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four offseason.
Speaker 3: I think the New York Jets are a few players
Speaker 3: away from being mentioned in the Super Bowl contending for
Speaker 3: twenty twenty four. I think there are a few players away.
Speaker 3: I think last year we all were excited about having
Speaker 3: Aaron come in. I think everybody was excited about that,
Speaker 3: and we all know when you're talking about mentioning a
Speaker 3: Super Bowl continuing team, you have to have a quarterback
Speaker 3: where you bought that in. And then obviously the injury
Speaker 3: started to happen, which everyone deals with. I think the
Speaker 3: biggest thing for the New York Jets is now to
Speaker 3: just make sure that the pieces on the offensive side
Speaker 3: of the ball will help complement the defense, because those
Speaker 3: guys are playing so well. You're talking about a defense
Speaker 3: that now finished again in the top five, you know,
Speaker 3: throughout the year, so you know, I would love to
Speaker 3: just see on the offensive side of the ball that
Speaker 3: unit helped complement the defense, and then you could just
Speaker 3: talk about Super Bowl contending for the New York Jets
Speaker 3: next year.
Speaker 1: Pieces offensively, what do you want to see.
Speaker 3: I think, just on the offensive side of the ball,
Speaker 3: I think you have to go young at the offensive
Speaker 3: tackle spot. I think you bring in another receiver that
Speaker 3: can help Garrett Wilson take some attention off of him,
Speaker 3: so now you know he can go out and you
Speaker 3: can get that one on one match versus you know,
Speaker 3: him having to deal with double coverage and you know, obviously,
Speaker 3: I think the backup quarterback position is very important, especially
Speaker 3: when you're talking about an older quarterback coming off of
Speaker 3: an injury. That usually says guys down longer than it.
Speaker 3: You know, he was trying to come back. I know
Speaker 3: the rumors that were going on, but you still need
Speaker 3: to have that talent margin when the guy goes down
Speaker 3: that the drop off isn't so steep. I think when
Speaker 3: you look at the paper from last year, the New
Speaker 3: York Jets had a roster that I think player for
Speaker 3: player we were one of the best teams. Obviously the injuries,
Speaker 3: but just from having a quarterback, I think it's the
Speaker 3: biggest piece. All Right, he's the commander, he's the chief.
Speaker 3: He has to be the commander. In chief on the
Speaker 3: offensive side of the ball, just like an inside linebacker
Speaker 3: on the defensive side of the ball. And we saw
Speaker 3: the leadership that CJ. Moseley had and then kind of
Speaker 3: ripple around him as to why our defense was so good,
Speaker 3: because you have to have a guy that's a commander
Speaker 3: in the middle leading on each side of the unit.
Speaker 3: So just honestly, those three pieces that I like to
Speaker 3: see moving forward, and I think the New York Jets
Speaker 3: continue to go into the right direction.
Speaker 1: You didn't have any quarter quarterback stability when you played.
Speaker 1: When you look at Rogers and you wonder about the
Speaker 1: potential of him guiding this offense with those young stars,
Speaker 1: the breist Halls of the world, the Garrett Wilson's at
Speaker 1: the tight end position. I really like what Tyler Konflan
Speaker 1: gave you. From a production standpoint. The Jets are really
Speaker 1: high on Jeremy Rutgert as well. You mentioned addressing the
Speaker 1: offensive line, But did you ever think during your career, like, man,
Speaker 1: what would it be like playing with a guy like Rogers?
Speaker 3: You know, I asked myself that, and you know, that
Speaker 3: was one of the biggest things that I wanted to
Speaker 3: do in my career, has played with a guy that
Speaker 3: was considered a franchise quarterback, the guy that was consistent
Speaker 3: throughout his career, guy that you know when you stepped
Speaker 3: on the field, he gave you a chance to win
Speaker 3: every week.
Speaker 2: And you know, obviously I didn't have that.
Speaker 3: You know, we had a bunch of moving pieces at
Speaker 3: that position unfortunately. But you know, that's definitely something that
Speaker 3: I think that a lot of players take for granted.
Speaker 3: It's having a quarterback like that, that home name that
Speaker 3: is you know, it's going to be secure every year
Speaker 3: and you're not looking for the next guy.
Speaker 2: Every year and trying to bring the guy in like that.
Speaker 3: And I think if we had a guy like that
Speaker 3: in New York, I think we would have won a
Speaker 3: lot more games than we did throughout my career.
Speaker 1: Everybody's driven by different things. You were intrinsically motivated. What
Speaker 1: do you think about Rogers specifically next year, because there's
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of people counting him out bottom line,
Speaker 1: because he's forty, he's going to turn forty one in December,
Speaker 1: he's coming off an achilles injury, and he's starting a
Speaker 1: new with the Jets. Yes, he was here last year,
Speaker 1: but he played four snaps before going down.
Speaker 3: Honestly, I think he lives for this type of you know,
Speaker 3: doubt and everyone counting him out. And you know, honestly,
Speaker 3: if he looks at it that way, then there's no pressure.
Speaker 3: And you're talking about a quarterback like Aaron Rodgers with
Speaker 3: no pressure him just going to play football.
Speaker 2: That could be scary for a lot of people going forward.
Speaker 3: I think when you talking about a healthy Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 3: moving forward with good defense, that could get scared for
Speaker 3: the National Football League. And I think those people are
Speaker 3: trying to put that out on him because they are
Speaker 3: afraid that the New York Jets will be in a
Speaker 3: positive topic next year of winning, because everybody wants to
Speaker 3: label the New York just in the negative, in a
Speaker 3: negative bracket every time, every year that I dealt with
Speaker 3: it in my in my nine years that I was there,
Speaker 3: and now being a fan, been coming up on four
Speaker 3: years been retired, I'm still hearing the same old Jets.
Speaker 3: Whereas that Aaron Rodgers story, if he stays healthy, he
Speaker 3: is just scary. And now you're going to have to
Speaker 3: start mentioning the New York Jets on you know, the
Speaker 3: winning side of the bracket.
Speaker 1: Why is that? Do you think that people label the
Speaker 1: Jets something or maybe for a team that hasn't been
Speaker 1: in it since ten as far as the postseason is concerned,
Speaker 1: like a lot of people are looking at the Jets
Speaker 1: and saying, hey, that's a team that I want to fail,
Speaker 1: even though the team has not been in the postseason
Speaker 1: in twenty three. As a guy, I mean since twenty ten,
Speaker 1: obviously just finished in the twenty twenty three campaign. As
Speaker 1: a guy who's now living down south in Kentucky, why
Speaker 1: do you think the Jets always carry that target on them?
Speaker 3: I think because you've seen the patterns that we had
Speaker 3: over the time. You know, even when we were in good,
Speaker 3: good position to pull out some games and climb.
Speaker 2: Into the playoffs, we found a way to lose.
Speaker 3: And that was a consistent pattern over my nine year
Speaker 3: career and still is a pattern that we're seeing. Last year,
Speaker 3: even with the injury of Ann Rogers, the New York
Speaker 3: Jets were still in position to run off games and
Speaker 3: sneak into the playoffs, and they found each week to lose,
Speaker 3: found a way to lose instead of finding a way
Speaker 3: to win.
Speaker 2: And I talked about.
Speaker 3: That with Patrick Mahomes and everybody was like, who do
Speaker 3: you have winning the Super Bowl? I said, well, you
Speaker 3: can't go against a guy that's a winner, you know.
Speaker 3: I know Cam Newton talked about he's a game manager,
Speaker 3: game changer. I said, well, Patrick Mahomes is game He's
Speaker 3: a winner at the end of the day. And that's
Speaker 3: what you want, and that's what that's the mentality that
Speaker 3: has to come through. And I think you have a
Speaker 3: few guys on that team that has that have that mentality.
Speaker 3: Now you just have to continue to build the pieces
Speaker 3: around them that you know, those guys that come into
Speaker 3: those free agents, that you get, those draft picks that
Speaker 3: you get when they walk through the door, that they're following,
Speaker 3: those guys who are considered leaders and winners in the building,
Speaker 3: in the organization.
Speaker 1: So getting back to Rogers, how does he change the
Speaker 1: dynamic because I know a lot of people will debate
Speaker 1: about his postseason success, but he does have one ring
Speaker 1: and he is a four time NFL MVP. So when
Speaker 1: times get tight, I mean, isn't that a guy who
Speaker 1: can get you past that next turtle, get you to
Speaker 1: the finish line?
Speaker 3: Yes? Absolutely, And you're talking about a guy that's been
Speaker 3: consistent for the amount of years he's been in the league,
Speaker 3: always being at that top tier. And like I said,
Speaker 3: the hardest thing that you can do with this league
Speaker 3: is be consistent. That what makes you good, great a professional.
Speaker 3: The longevity of your career is all about consistency. And
Speaker 3: I think when you talk about Aaron Rodgers, when you
Speaker 3: mentioned Aaron Rodgers in his position at an all time,
Speaker 3: you have to put him with some of the best
Speaker 3: quarterbacks to ever play this game. And a lot of
Speaker 3: guys don't have that opportunity. And for the New York Jets,
Speaker 3: guys that are in that organization aren't used to that.
Speaker 2: They weren't used to that.
Speaker 3: And so now hopefully when you can have a full
Speaker 3: season with Aaron Rodgers, those guys can kind of see,
Speaker 3: even when tight games get tight, that you can see
Speaker 3: the competitiveness and the winner in him, and it kinds
Speaker 3: of shifts the attitude of some of those guys in
Speaker 3: that locker room.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I was just going to ask you,
Speaker 1: is somebody who was here, who is a member of
Speaker 1: this organization playing inside the white lines. It's got to
Speaker 1: change everything. If you do have this guy, if you
Speaker 1: are in a third quarter or the fourth quarter, and
Speaker 1: you are in a tight game knowing that he's done
Speaker 1: it before, because maybe when you played, are you thinking
Speaker 1: that you're trying to think positive thoughts, but at the
Speaker 1: same time, you've seen this story before.
Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, And you know you've been I've been in
Speaker 3: situations where we get down to a certain point there's
Speaker 3: almost a high doubt that we come back because we
Speaker 3: just didn't have that right guy in position to lead
Speaker 3: us back. That we know even if we're in this position,
Speaker 3: we believe in that guy. Aaron Rodgers is that guy.
Speaker 3: We know that even with him being down, that he
Speaker 3: can rally a team, and the consistency and respect that
Speaker 3: he has throughout the league from his performance that he
Speaker 3: had over his career, I think you can, especially with
Speaker 3: a young team, you can get him to pull those
Speaker 3: young guys in the right direction. And now, weekend and
Speaker 3: week out, you can go into a game knowing that
Speaker 3: you have a chance, even all the way down to
Speaker 3: the last play of the game, that you have a
Speaker 3: chance to win a football game.
Speaker 1: All right, let me throw a couple things at you.
Speaker 1: How would you rate the Jets offseason needs? You talked offensively,
Speaker 1: you said tackle, you want to get another playmaker with
Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson receiver. Defensive side of the ball, just some tinkering,
Speaker 1: I think I think everybody would agree with. But defensive
Speaker 1: tackle because you got a number of guys who were
Speaker 1: up next to Quinn Williams and then the safety position.
Speaker 1: Amongst those with inspiring contracts, you're talking Jordan white Hat,
Speaker 1: Ashton Davis, Chuck Clark, and then you also mentioned backup quarterback.
Speaker 1: How do you rank those needs? Tackle, receiver, backup quarterback,
Speaker 1: defensive tackle, safety.
Speaker 3: I think you have to go with finding an offensive
Speaker 3: tackle first, first and foremost. First and foremost, finding an
Speaker 3: offensive tackle. We know what the defense is handled over
Speaker 3: the last two years. Know they have their leaders set
Speaker 3: in place on that side of the ball. I think
Speaker 3: it's time to now set the pieces on the offensive
Speaker 3: side of the ball.
Speaker 2: So I think you.
Speaker 3: Need to go out and find your tackle. You need
Speaker 3: to go out and find your receiver, a veteran receiver
Speaker 3: that's still consistent, that's able to run every route on
Speaker 3: the on the route tree and be a leader, and
Speaker 3: you have a relationship with Aaron Rodgers and also lead
Speaker 3: a unit. You need to also go out and get
Speaker 3: that backup quarterback, that a guy that who can come
Speaker 3: in be a backup quarterback. Something happens. We know that
Speaker 3: this is the National Football League is one hundred percent
Speaker 3: injury rate. That this guy can step right in and
Speaker 3: pick up where Aaron Blue Rodgers left off, even if
Speaker 3: it's not as good as it was, but it gives
Speaker 3: you a chance each week to go in and compete
Speaker 3: on a Sunday or a game day. And also a
Speaker 3: guy that you can probably put the future in his hands.
Speaker 3: Knowing that Aaron Rodgers only has a couple more years.
Speaker 3: You can get this guy to kind of sit behind
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers, learning from Aaron Rodgers, and you know when
Speaker 3: it's time to pass the tours that he's ready to
Speaker 3: step in to be your franchise quarterback in the future.
Speaker 1: Would you draft one. I'm not saying a ton overall,
Speaker 1: but you have five draft picks. Would you draft one
Speaker 1: in terms of just trying to develop down the line
Speaker 1: with one of your later picks?
Speaker 2: Now, I wouldn't draft the quarterback.
Speaker 3: I think the New York Jets have been doing that
Speaker 3: for a very long time now and it hasn't been
Speaker 3: a successful pick that we've seen, even even with early picks.
Speaker 3: We're seeing them move on from those guys after you know,
Speaker 3: the rookie contract or even before before that. So I
Speaker 3: think you need to go out and find you a guy,
Speaker 3: a solid guy and free agency, a guy you know,
Speaker 3: a younger guy kind of going into that year three,
Speaker 3: year four, or maybe a guy that you know.
Speaker 2: Has has has a little respect around the league.
Speaker 3: A guy that can step in and help you win
Speaker 3: that isn't going to you know, pretty much hit the
Speaker 3: cap space or take up too much money from that
Speaker 3: come in that accepts the role of being coming in
Speaker 3: knowing that it's not his team just yet, but coming
Speaker 3: in learning under Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1: Do you envision a scenario where they sign a tackle
Speaker 1: on free agency and then perhaps even draft won ten
Speaker 1: overall because you're talking about a young tackle and maybe
Speaker 1: one of those guys are there at ten. I know
Speaker 1: most people think the point it's anyway. The consensus is
Speaker 1: Joe alt out of Notre Dames, he's probably the cleanest prospect.
Speaker 1: But Fishano from Penn State, he's getting a lot of love.
Speaker 1: I know Fuaga from Oregon State was not just down
Speaker 1: there at the senior ball and he performed well. Would
Speaker 1: you like to see a scenario where hey, you address
Speaker 1: tackle on free agency, but you also come back in
Speaker 1: the draft.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, I think you have to go get a
Speaker 2: guy that you know.
Speaker 3: Obviously you want to have a solid veteran and then
Speaker 3: you want to go get a young guy for the future.
Speaker 2: You absolutely do.
Speaker 3: I think when you look at the way to gain
Speaker 3: from the way I broke it down, the way I
Speaker 3: analyzed it from, you know, just my perspective, that was
Speaker 3: the biggest struggle was the tackle spot. You know, you know,
Speaker 3: moving guys from the left side to the right side,
Speaker 3: So just the consistent piece of just finding a tackle.
Speaker 3: We know how important that is, especially with these premier
Speaker 3: rushers and you know, we know Aaron Rodgers want to
Speaker 3: sit back and throw the ball. We need to protect
Speaker 3: them as much as possible. So you need to go
Speaker 3: out and get some solid guys that can protect those
Speaker 3: premiere areas rushers.
Speaker 2: Each week, you.
Speaker 1: Envision a scenario where you're getting a receiver in free
Speaker 1: agency prior to the draft. I know a lot of
Speaker 1: people are looking at guys like t Higgins, who me,
Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to be available because I
Speaker 1: think you're talking about sixty million in cab space Cincinnati has.
Speaker 1: I can't envision a scenario where he's out there. I
Speaker 1: know a lot of people also have dream scenarios about
Speaker 1: Mike Evans, but there are a lot of receivers that
Speaker 1: are going to be on the market, including Calvin Ridley,
Speaker 1: and the list goes on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, honestly, my pick would be Mike Evans. And the
Speaker 3: reason I like Mike Evans is because how consistent he's
Speaker 3: been with the number of quarterbacks throughout his career. He
Speaker 3: wasn't in a system where he was with one quarterback
Speaker 3: and then we see him go somewhere else and not
Speaker 3: be the same guy like he's been that same piece
Speaker 3: in Tampa, even with the moving pieces at quarterback. So
Speaker 3: I think you bring a guy in like Mike Evans
Speaker 3: to play with Aaron Rodgers and be able to compliment
Speaker 3: a young Garret Wilson.
Speaker 1: Do you like the spot the Jets are in because
Speaker 1: right now people are going to write them off as
Speaker 1: opposed to last year where the Jets and I just
Speaker 1: wrote about this belile that the Jets headed to Indy
Speaker 1: and the quarterback hunt was on. In fact, I think
Speaker 1: the Jets had just met with Derek Carr because he
Speaker 1: was already a street free agent before going to Andy,
Speaker 1: and then Aaron Rodgers was under contract with Green Bay.
Speaker 1: But that was the point where Green Bay had said, hey,
Speaker 1: we hadn't been in communication with him. They've been talking
Speaker 1: about Jimmy Garoppolo as well. Well, we know who's going
Speaker 1: to be the starting quarterback this year. But since the
Speaker 1: Jets finished seven to ten for a second consecutive season,
Speaker 1: I think we're sitting here in February and everybody's already
Speaker 1: written them off. I feel like they will be a
Speaker 1: little bit under the radar this year, as opposed to
Speaker 1: last year, where it was constant barrage of the media spotlight.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I agree with you.
Speaker 3: I think you know you're talking about a forty ohod
Speaker 3: quarterback coming off in an achilles injury.
Speaker 2: That talk is. I think everybody last year was like, oh,
Speaker 2: they'll go the.
Speaker 3: Same old Jets again that we talked about, and now
Speaker 3: that's rolling over into next season. I think now, like
Speaker 3: I told you, I think Aaron Rodgers likes that position,
Speaker 3: and that's scary because he's a competitor and he doesn't
Speaker 3: have this pressure anymore. It's not that hot talk or
Speaker 3: Super Bowl contending and you know, they were the talk
Speaker 3: of the offseason, and I came up there for training
Speaker 3: camp and I saw the energy and you know, hard
Speaker 3: knocks being there and all this attention that was going on.
Speaker 3: And I don't think you get that same thing with
Speaker 3: the New York Jets, which is a good thing, I
Speaker 3: think for New York because now they can really lock
Speaker 3: in on what they really want to do with all
Speaker 3: the outsiders or whatever, you know, the people talking from
Speaker 3: the outside looking in, I think it's a good time
Speaker 3: for you to focus on get those couple pieces that
Speaker 3: you need and then you know, let your play do
Speaker 3: the talking.
Speaker 1: Hey, how much love did you have for the Jets
Speaker 1: internal documentary crew because one of their first long form
Speaker 1: documentaries was on twenty nine was on Blile Pole and
Speaker 1: look at where it's become where taken off to over
Speaker 1: the years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I appreciate you guys for doing that.
Speaker 3: And you know, obviously I wasn't a guy that talked
Speaker 3: to to a team you guys much, but you know,
Speaker 3: I appreciate, you know, everything that you guys have done
Speaker 3: over years. And you know, obviously that documentary people still
Speaker 3: talk about it to this day, so I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Seth Bradley and crew. I mean doing a
Speaker 1: fantastic job with one Jets Drive and Flight in the past,
Speaker 1: and there's gonna be new offerings here this season. So
Speaker 1: it's very cool. And that was memorable for all of
Speaker 1: us down there on that shoot. Yeah, it's It's interesting,
Speaker 1: isn't it that Blau was so beloved inside the locker
Speaker 1: room and all the guys used to talk about you
Speaker 1: and you be around them, But when the media came
Speaker 1: by open media sessions, Blaugh wasn't frequently found in there.
Speaker 3: And now and now I do it for a living.
Speaker 3: I'm talking to the camera and you know, I'm doing
Speaker 3: interviews that you know. I had a chance to go out,
Speaker 3: uh to Las Vegas and I was on radio row,
Speaker 3: so you know, it's almost like I came full circle.
Speaker 3: Everybody's like, man, I remember when you didn't even talk
Speaker 3: to the media. Now you do it for a living.
Speaker 3: And I said, well, I guess it was just a
Speaker 3: hidden talent that you know, I didn't tap into until
Speaker 3: I retired.
Speaker 1: Uh, nothing you do surprises me. Legacy uniforms. Woody Johnson
Speaker 1: announced that Super Bowl Sunday night. What did you think
Speaker 1: about the white and how excited are you to see
Speaker 1: what the green and the black looked like.
Speaker 3: I'm excited about him and it's just like I said,
Speaker 3: it's evolving and I like what, you know, what he's doing,
Speaker 3: and I like to see what he you know, be
Speaker 3: involved with social media. He's come out of his show
Speaker 3: too over the years, because I don't remember him being
Speaker 3: like that when I was there. But I like the uniforms.
Speaker 3: I actually liked the white ones last year that you
Speaker 3: guys opened up with versus Buffalo, and uh, you know,
Speaker 3: I wish I would have played in those. I had
Speaker 3: a chance to play in the black ones for you know,
Speaker 3: my last year of retiring, but I want to see
Speaker 3: what the black ones look like.
Speaker 2: Obviously, moving forward, all.
Speaker 1: Right, your family's skipping your busy, you got three kids,
Speaker 1: but you also have a new appointment here as far
Speaker 1: as professionally is concerned, blob Pal is going to be
Speaker 1: an offensive coordinator. Is that correct? You need to tell
Speaker 1: us the school and how that all came together.
Speaker 3: Well, I've been coaching them for about head coach at
Speaker 3: the youth level, philp ands his grade with my son
Speaker 3: mainly and you know, we went to the championship a
Speaker 3: couple of times actually, you know, lost some tough ones.
Speaker 3: But you know, I think it got to a point
Speaker 3: to where parents were coming up saying, hey, listen, you
Speaker 3: have these kids running all these concepts and schemes, and
Speaker 3: you know, when are you going to taket, you know,
Speaker 3: your talent to the next level. And you know, my
Speaker 3: wife is talking like she was tired of hearing about football,
Speaker 3: and you know, I'm coaching her and I'm coming up
Speaker 3: with these different things. My son, he's tired of me
Speaker 3: grabbing him saying, hey, what do you think about this?
Speaker 2: And they was like, you need to take this somewhere else.
Speaker 3: And you know, the opportunity came when, you know office
Speaker 3: according to the step down at this high school here Saint Xavier,
Speaker 3: which is a preparatory school, all boys school, tremendous school,
Speaker 3: one of the top schools academically in the nation. It's
Speaker 3: a blue ribbon school. You know, the opportunity just fell
Speaker 3: into my lap. And you know, I was one of
Speaker 3: the two guys that were interviewed and the coach looked
Speaker 3: at me from the philosophy and just the experience and said, hey, listen,
Speaker 3: you are what we need here for the future of
Speaker 3: this this high school. And you know, I've been here,
Speaker 3: been there now about a month, and I'm getting to
Speaker 3: know all the boys. Eric, you talk about three hundred
Speaker 3: boys man from varsity, JV and freshman football.
Speaker 2: So I got to get to know all these these guys' names.
Speaker 3: And and uh, you know, kind of no personalities and
Speaker 3: stuff and put all the pieces together. But man, the
Speaker 3: kids have it's yes, sir and o sirs. Respect, art working.
Speaker 3: Uh you know, some of the things that you deal
Speaker 3: with with teenage boys you don't get from this school
Speaker 3: because these are the good group of kids, hard workers.
Speaker 3: They love football. Multi sports is insane, you know. So, uh,
Speaker 3: the opportunity was just a no brainer for me. And
Speaker 3: uh you know, obviously my son he'll actually go into
Speaker 3: that school.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: I actually moved them into the it's a Catholic school,
Speaker 3: so I moved them into the Catholic community, and he'll
Speaker 3: come up and get a chance to play with me
Speaker 3: in high school.
Speaker 1: All right, what's the offensive philosophy.
Speaker 3: Of I want to I want to spread out the defense,
Speaker 3: actually spread out the defense, and I want to give
Speaker 3: my playmakers the ball in space. I want to force
Speaker 3: the defense to defend the entire field.
Speaker 2: I want to try to attack leverage.
Speaker 3: When I talk about leverage, I want to try to
Speaker 3: find grass and I want to try to create numbers,
Speaker 3: whether if it's one, you know, two on one, three
Speaker 3: on four, whatever it is. Is my philosophy is to
Speaker 3: to find the mismatches. Is not mainly to go down.
Speaker 3: He'll let you.
Speaker 2: Like I said, I love Kyle Shanahan.
Speaker 3: I love Andy Reeve's offense, and so I like the
Speaker 3: creativity of moving grinds around with motions and shifts and
Speaker 3: you know, different formations and you know, trying to get
Speaker 3: different guys the ball. And you know, my biggest thing
Speaker 3: is not having a team locking on one guy, but
Speaker 3: finding a way to get multiple guys to ball. That way,
Speaker 3: you can't narrow down on any tendencies that we have.
Speaker 3: And that's it.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: They're smart kids. So you know, I'm able to do more.
Speaker 3: You know, you're talking about almost one hundred and something plays,
Speaker 3: you know, alignements, signmon and all that stuff. So, uh,
Speaker 3: to me, I think that's the biggest calling in my
Speaker 3: life right now, Eric is you know, teaching football to
Speaker 3: these young guys, and not only that, but just getting
Speaker 3: them ready for the future in their lives. Some guys
Speaker 3: going to play at the next level, someonet, but they'll
Speaker 3: be prepared to go on for life. So that's my
Speaker 3: biggest thing, is just to give back the game of football.
Speaker 1: This is awesome, Kyle. The way he approaches offense you
Speaker 1: mentioned him before, Do you like that, like the positionless offense,
Speaker 1: meaning that, Okay, we can have Debo lineup in the slot,
Speaker 1: we can have a lineup outside, we can have him
Speaker 1: lineup as running back where you don't have to put
Speaker 1: a position on a player. That they're all chess pieces.
Speaker 1: We're gonna move guys about around the formation and you
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have a counter for whatever you try to
Speaker 1: throw at me defensively, because I always have an answer.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, I think it's about those moving pieces. I like
Speaker 3: to call that eye candy when you moving guys one
Speaker 3: way and going the other way. You know, like I said,
Speaker 3: it's just about finding finding every every play call is
Speaker 3: a prediction. I can only call the play based on
Speaker 3: what I saw on film, what you showed me, based
Speaker 3: on formations. So when I make a call, it's a
Speaker 3: prediction that you're going to line up in this and
Speaker 3: you're going to allow us to do this, and this.
Speaker 3: My biggest thing is having a smart quarterback. And my
Speaker 3: quarterback is very smart, so he can go to the
Speaker 3: line of scrimmage with multiple players and he can get
Speaker 3: to if you come out and we're prepared for two
Speaker 3: high safety and you come out with a one high safety,
Speaker 3: he automatically knows that's either a Cover one or Cover three.
Speaker 3: We get to our beaters and now we can make
Speaker 3: our articles. So we're You know, my my job as
Speaker 3: a play caller is to I can only predict eric,
Speaker 3: I can only put them in an alignment, and then
Speaker 3: the players have to go out and know what's going on.
Speaker 3: They have to know the assignment and the adjustments, and
Speaker 3: then they have to ultimately execute. No matter you can
Speaker 3: call it a perfect play. They don't execute, then you know,
Speaker 3: we all look bad. So you knowlayers can only do
Speaker 3: so much and coaches can only.
Speaker 2: Do so much.
Speaker 1: You look really happy. We're very happy for you. Can
Speaker 1: you can you talk finally as far as a message
Speaker 1: for Jets fans, as far as where they can find you,
Speaker 1: because you are in the podcast world. You just were
Speaker 1: in Vegas at the Super Bowl doing radio role. Now
Speaker 1: you're in oc down there in Louisville and a proud
Speaker 1: dad of three.
Speaker 3: Kids honestly, and I'll be at I'll be at the
Speaker 3: combine as well. So actually, yeah, so i'll be that
Speaker 3: Monday through Wednesday. I don't know when you get there,
Speaker 3: but i'll be that Monday through Wednesday. I actually sit
Speaker 3: on the NFL Youth Advisory Committee down there, so it's
Speaker 3: mainly targeted high school and youth sports around the nation.
Speaker 3: So you know, we have our national meeting down there.
Speaker 3: So I'll see you down there. But right now I'm
Speaker 3: doing my podcast, so you can catch me on the
Speaker 3: Believe network in the UH it suggests based pot podcast
Speaker 3: and it's called in Flight Snack and it was pretty
Speaker 3: much inspired by Rex Ryan, you know, on the Hard
Speaker 3: Knocks episode and it was like, let's get a snack.
Speaker 3: So in Flight Snack is the podcast on the Bleed platform.
Speaker 3: And if you're in the Louisville area, I don't know
Speaker 3: at Kentucky area. I'm also on Sports Talk seven ninety
Speaker 3: radio station with Jerry Eve's talking sports early.
Speaker 2: In the morning.
Speaker 1: That's awesome, Hey man, great, catch it up. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: text you next week in Indy because I'm getting there
Speaker 1: on Tuesday.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll see you man. I look forward to it.
Speaker 1: Thanks buddy,