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Speaker 5: doing that, it's gonna be my man stretching eye taking

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Speaker 5: you guys the next two hours. A lot of things

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Speaker 5: to get you. Benny Hardaway had some interesting things to

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Speaker 5: at the college level.

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Speaker 2: Boise State, some.

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Speaker 5: Other names, and that hat of teams isn't good for

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Speaker 5: the playoff. We'll get to that. There's a lot of

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Speaker 5: that to get to. That'll be in about twenty to

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Speaker 5: we're going to touch on this Detroit Lions football team

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Speaker 5: and Dan Campbell's very, very gutsy fourth down call at

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Speaker 5: the end of the game. But first, Plexico Burths, how

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Speaker 5: you feeling mad?

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Speaker 2: Was a big week for you this year? Man? And

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Speaker 2: you know what you feel like a new man, I'm

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 4: You know it's been a great week man for you. Know,

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Speaker 4: myself and my son and the whole entire family to

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Speaker 4: really you know, just we're just all taking it in

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Speaker 4: and digesting. You know, a little man was just not

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Speaker 4: turn the page and move on in life and attend

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Speaker 4: you know, the Dame. And he'll be even to go

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Speaker 4: January eleventh. So everything is, you know, happening really fast,

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Speaker 4: and he's just trying to take it all in celebrate

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Speaker 5: You know, that's an awesome deal to see him from

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Speaker 5: a baby all the way up until now. Congratulations to

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Speaker 5: Elijah Burris for his his big major accomplishment heading to

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Speaker 5: South Bend Notre Dame. They're in a great situation set

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Speaker 5: up this year as well, going from you know, heartbreaking

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Speaker 4: That was just brought to my attention. I was unaware

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Speaker 2: Now he is now a fighting irishman.

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Speaker 4: He is not did not I did not know that.

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Speaker 4: That's crazy how the rules and the times have changed. Hey, bro,

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Speaker 2: Can practice practice can practice? Yes, he can practice with

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Speaker 2: And be in the mix of it. So I got

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Speaker 5: I know he committed to this all American game for

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Speaker 5: Man, It's just just what we really in some way,

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Speaker 5: Ball, we talked about Dan Campbell and this Detroit Lions team.

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Speaker 5: They go for it on fourth down and short plex

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Speaker 5: Going for it all fourth down seals up the victory

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Speaker 5: he's basically telling everybody, hey, listen, as long as us

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Speaker 5: Continue to play Detroit Lions football. That's how we're going

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Speaker 5: What do you agree with it? And what do you

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Speaker 4: And if you're Dan Campbell, You're going to have to

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Speaker 4: They need to secure home full advantage because I don't

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Speaker 5: We got a resident mark for the Detroit Lions and

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Speaker 5: Chris Purfet, he does a podcast on the team.

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Speaker 2: He has an opinion on on this topic. What say

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Speaker 7: Well, first off, on the outside thing, like they do

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Speaker 7: This week's been a lot about you know, the gamble

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Speaker 7: like that Dan Campbell's gambling out there. But you mentioned

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Speaker 7: You look at where they are on that field that

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Speaker 7: I think it was the nineteen yard line, forty seconds left,

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Speaker 7: and they decide to go for it. You've got Jordan

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Speaker 7: I don't see it as risky as people said. I

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Speaker 7: think to your point, when you talk about situational, they're

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Speaker 7: very aware of the situations they're in at that yardage

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Speaker 7: think it was extremely calculated what they did in that moment,

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Speaker 7: But that's Dan's you know, Dan Campbell's m O. He

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Speaker 7: knows this team extremely well and knows what they're capable of,

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Speaker 7: and they have plenty of calls for a fourth and

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Speaker 5: Jared Goff fell on the ground. If that was college football,

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Speaker 8: I'm happy these young men are getting money, but it's

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Speaker 5: good enough. And while they're maybe pieces and parts of

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Speaker 5: that that are agreeable, the bottom line is the amount

438
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Speaker 5: of money that's being generated by these TV stations and

439
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Speaker 5: all the money that's being paid by advertisers that are

440
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Speaker 5: going out and coming into these conferences and into the

441
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Speaker 5: NCAA and into the schools. It just to me it

442
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Speaker 5: would serve a purpose to figure out how to compensate

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Speaker 5: the kids that are coming in who are working.

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Speaker 2: They're working to.

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Speaker 5: Not only get an education, but to put the time

446
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Speaker 5: in to generate the type of dollars that are going

447
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Speaker 5: into the athletics that are taking place from these major

448
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Speaker 5: colleges and the sports that take place with them. So

449
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Speaker 5: when I heard this, it was like, are we looking

450
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Speaker 5: at this through the wrong lens? If I'm penny hard away.

451
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Speaker 5: I look at it as this is more of an

452
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Speaker 5: opportunity than it is a drawback. Okay, I can't get

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Speaker 5: the kids to practice as hard as I need to.

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Speaker 2: Why.

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Speaker 5: Oh, because they can leave if they want to leave,

456
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Speaker 5: adapt and adjust. That means there now has to start

457
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Speaker 5: to be the conversation amongst the colleges. So that hold,

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Speaker 5: let me finish, let me finish, let me finish it,

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Speaker 5: let me finish. There has to be an adjustment amongst

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Speaker 5: the colleges and amongst the schools to figure out a

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Speaker 5: more professional structure and infrastructure that will allow for contracts

462
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Speaker 5: to be given to these young men that are going

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Speaker 5: to play for these schools.

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Speaker 2: So you're not.

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Speaker 5: Doing a one year and done contract with these kids.

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Speaker 5: Maybe now you're doing a three year contract with these

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Speaker 5: kids that are coming in so that you don't have

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Speaker 5: to deal with those situations.

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Speaker 2: Oh, you got to keep recruiting them.

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Speaker 5: It's because they can leave and go somewhere else, right, Okay, Now,

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Speaker 5: now let's look at the fact that if I'm a

472
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Speaker 5: coach and I have to be a part of that, well,

473
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Speaker 5: now I can start to command more dollars too, because

474
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Speaker 5: my job description is now changing and the pros the

475
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Speaker 5: pros you do. You handle free agency a certain way,

476
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Speaker 5: but in college it's all about recruitment. So if now

477
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Speaker 5: I have to start acting in the way that I

478
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Speaker 5: would in some regards as a professional coach, then you're

479
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Speaker 5: going to have to start compensating me for being that

480
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Speaker 5: type of coach and having to do these extra duties

481
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Speaker 5: that I did not have to do before.

482
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Speaker 2: We had to evolve and adjust and for what it's worth.

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Speaker 2: I think that that's what's going to happen with the

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Speaker 2: players as well.

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Speaker 5: The players have to look at the fact that now

486
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Speaker 5: we have to handle business. I got to do a

487
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Speaker 5: contract and I have to decide am I going to

488
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Speaker 5: Am I going to make a commitment to this school?

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Speaker 5: And is that commitment going to be a reciprocated commitment?

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Speaker 5: Am I getting what the school is offering to me?

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Speaker 5: And am I giving to the school what it is

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Speaker 5: that I'm accepting that the school offered to me. I

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Speaker 5: think this should be looked at more as a positive

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Speaker 5: plex not more of a negative.

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Speaker 4: I understand everything that you're saying, but what is the

496
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Speaker 4: adjustment or a Penny hall Away and a Tony Bennett,

497
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Speaker 4: these coaches who who are discussing the NIL when they're

498
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Speaker 4: saying that I have to re recruit my own player, Yes,

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Speaker 4: after the season is over, So what.

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Speaker 2: Is the adjustment for that?

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Speaker 5: Again, I think that that adjustment has to be the people.

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Speaker 4: So you're saying the guys need to sign two and

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Speaker 4: three year contracts to basically say that I'm going to

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Speaker 4: play basketball at.

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Speaker 2: Memphis for the next two or three seasons, and I yes,

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Speaker 2: it's going to end up having to be.

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Speaker 5: And the reason why I say that is is if

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Speaker 5: you're only doing one year contracts with these kids and

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Speaker 5: they can just go into the transfer portal because they

510
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Speaker 5: can get more money out of the scenario, then you

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Speaker 5: want to give them more of.

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Speaker 2: A reason to stay at the school.

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Speaker 5: And that gives the coach more of a foot to

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Speaker 5: stand on to be able to coach them because he's right.

515
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Speaker 5: Agents are calling coaches and saying, yeah, we might not

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Speaker 5: play in this game, we might opt out of the season.

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Speaker 2: You saw what happened with the quarterback at UNLV.

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Speaker 5: I mean there are there are these agents, and these

519
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Speaker 5: kids are leveraging the NIL and the portal to be

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Speaker 5: able to say I don't feel like the practice in today,

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Speaker 5: I don't feel like doing what you're telling me to do.

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Speaker 5: I don't feel like coming to meetings. You got to

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Speaker 5: put more of a structure in place now where you

524
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Speaker 5: can't loophole the system the way that the athletes are

525
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Speaker 5: doing now, the loophole in the loophole in the system,

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Speaker 5: and how the current players who are on these rosters

527
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Speaker 5: are leveraging in the system. They're looking at a situation

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Speaker 5: to be like, you know.

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Speaker 4: What, I can't have a guy, a guy that's coming

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Speaker 4: out of high school coming to play college basketball with me,

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Speaker 4: and I'm here averaging twenty five points and this young

532
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Speaker 4: man that's coming in is making more money than me.

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Speaker 4: So what is the guy going to do on the

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Speaker 4: team that's averaging on those twenty points?

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Speaker 2: You see?

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Speaker 4: You know what, I can't have this or this freshman

537
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Speaker 4: coming and making more money than me. I'm putting myself

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Speaker 4: on the market to go somewhere else to make more

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Speaker 4: money because I'm not I'm not going to stand for

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Speaker 4: a guy that's younger than me coming into the program

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Speaker 4: that's making money to me. So what am I going

542
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Speaker 4: to do? I'm leverage myself and put myself in a

543
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Speaker 4: situation to make more.

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Speaker 5: Money it's a workplace. Now you're creating a competitive workplace

545
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Speaker 5: and that exists in the real world. And like with

546
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Speaker 5: his point too, I can I can stack me a

547
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Speaker 5: couple million, and whether I make it to the NBA

548
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Speaker 5: or the NFL or not, I stacked me a couple

549
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Speaker 5: million while I'm in school, and I'm good.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 5: You know what, plex I tell Mike, I have preached

552
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Speaker 5: to my kids and the kids that I mentor that

553
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Speaker 5: that's exactly how you should be thinking. You should be

554
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Speaker 5: working to build yourself up and build your brand so

555
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 5: strong that you don't need to actually only have one

556
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 5: job opportunity when you're leaving school. You should have multiple options,

557
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Speaker 5: multiple ways of being able to generate income by the

558
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 5: time you're leaving school, and it should not have to

559
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Speaker 5: necessarily be you making it to the pros. You and

560
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Speaker 5: I both know how small that percentage is. So for

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Speaker 5: the most part, if one of those kids, if we

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Speaker 5: even looked at the amount of five stars or four

563
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Speaker 5: stars or three stars that go to the pros after

564
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Speaker 5: coming in from high school, it's still a very minute number.

565
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Speaker 5: It's still a very minute percentage in comparison to't who

566
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Speaker 5: do not make it. In so why would you not

567
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Speaker 5: motivate and inspire these young athletes to see themselves as

568
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Speaker 5: more than just athletes. So to me, I feel like

569
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Speaker 5: in a lot of ways we get lazy in our

570
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Speaker 5: approach as to how we look at what's going on

571
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Speaker 5: with these young athletes, and we make it a point

572
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Speaker 5: to say, oh, they are student athletes, Oh they are students,

573
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Speaker 5: students student student athletes. Well what exactly does that mean?

574
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Speaker 5: And now you're starting to see if the educational process

575
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Speaker 5: is what it's supposed to be, because now the educational

576
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 5: system has to take a look at this, and curriculum

577
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 5: has to adapt into just to it as well. Even

578
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Speaker 5: in high school, right start teaching these kids how to

579
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Speaker 5: understand what their brands are, how to build a brand,

580
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Speaker 5: what does.

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Speaker 2: That look like? The College LeVar doesn't have a brand,

582
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Speaker 2: most of them don't. And that's the reason why.

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Speaker 4: And and so that's the Evigids won't see the NFL.

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Speaker 2: We know that, and I wouldn't say that we.

585
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Speaker 4: Are we are getting lazy in our approach. What Penny

586
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Speaker 4: is saying is making the kids lazy in their approach.

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Speaker 5: That's making that's making some of them, it's making some

588
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Speaker 5: of them entitled it's making some of them lazy in

589
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Speaker 5: their approach. But let's be real, plex them type of

590
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 5: dudes have always been around them. Type of dudes have

591
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Speaker 5: always guys that don't want to practice and practice when

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Speaker 5: they want to practice. They've always been around they have

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Speaker 5: all It's just that the circumstances have changed. The circumstances

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Speaker 5: have changed, and now the rabbid has the gun. I mean,

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Speaker 5: that's just the reality of it. So now there has

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Speaker 5: to be a forced way in my estimation, of really

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Speaker 5: adapting and adjusting to the changing times. And that's ultimately

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Speaker 5: what it comes down to, because they're generating way too

599
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Speaker 5: much money and at this point, now that the money

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Speaker 5: is becoming a thing that is connected to the athletes,

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Speaker 5: you got to figure out how it works for the

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Speaker 5: athletes as well as the coach, as well as the universities.

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Speaker 5: That's ultimately what it's going to come down to, because

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Speaker 5: it's not going anywhere. All right, we've run out of time.

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Speaker 5: Will This is obviously a conversation on the topic that

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Speaker 5: will continue to persist and continue on, so we'll get

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Speaker 5: back to it at some point. But let's get to

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Speaker 5: our guy, Isaac long Kron. It what you got in

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Speaker 5: the updates, I love.

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Speaker 6: Well, Levari got the bay. How's it going black? So

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Speaker 6: we got the Big Twelve Championship game underway from AT

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Speaker 6: and T Stadium in Arlington. Number fifteen Arizona State leading

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Speaker 6: sixteenth lanth Iowa State ten to seven with two forty

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Speaker 6: six left in the first quarter. Arizona State got on

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Speaker 6: the board first with a field goal. Iowa State answered

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Speaker 6: with a three yard touchdown pass from Rocco Beck to

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Speaker 6: Carson Hanson. A short time ago. Arizona State went forward

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Speaker 6: on fourth and one from its own thirty four yard line,

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Speaker 6: State leading sixteenth ranked Iowa State ten to seven with

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Speaker 6: two forty six left in the first quarter of the

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Speaker 6: Big Twelve Championship game. Off the field, multiple outlets have

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Speaker 6: reported within the last hour that Oklahoma State and Mike

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Speaker 6: Gundy have an agreement in place for Gundy to continue

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Speaker 6: as head coach on a restructured contract and Finally, NFL

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Speaker 6: Media reports that the Philadelphia Eagles are placing tight end

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Speaker 6: Dallas Goddard on injured reserve because if a knee injury

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Speaker 6: got it will be eligible to return for the final

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Speaker 6: week of the regular season. Lauren Plax back to.

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Speaker 2: You guys, appreciated eye Low.

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Speaker 5: I wanted to get to the Steelers Pickens Brown's new

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Speaker 5: sum deal, but we got to take a break because

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Speaker 5: I want to have our full time on this last

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Speaker 5: segment to be able to talk about the Boise State

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Speaker 5: and Ashton gent situation. And I want you guys to

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Speaker 5: hear sound from Cam Newton from ESPN and what he

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Speaker 5: Boise State and what they represent to the college playoffs.

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Speaker 5: So we're not gonna talk Pickens and Newsome. Sorry, can't

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Speaker 5: pay off the tea's that way, but I just paid

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Speaker 5: it off by letting you know we're not gonna talk

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Speaker 5: about it. We're gonna take a quick break. This is

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Speaker 2: Post it right after we get off the air.

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Speaker 5: Plex before we get to the end of this hour,

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Speaker 5: I wanted you to be able to comment on and

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Speaker 5: react to what Cam Newton had to say. He goes

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Speaker 5: on as an analyst with ESPN. He had some strong

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Speaker 5: opinions on the college playoffs and some of the teams

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Speaker 5: that are in it.

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Speaker 2: We talked about.

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Speaker 5: Ashton Genty and what he represents in the Mountain West

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Speaker 5: Conference title game and if they were to win and

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Speaker 5: gent's up for the Heisman, he's a favorite to possibly

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Speaker 5: win it. Here's what Cam Newton had to say about

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Speaker 5: these teams like Indiana and Boisean SMU.

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Speaker 9: Nobody wants to see SMU. Nobody wants to see Arizona State.

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Speaker 9: Nobody wants to see Indiana. Nobody wants to see Boys

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Speaker 9: and State straight up. Like, when I'm seeing this, I'm saying,

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Speaker 9: how do you play before a team who's lost or

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Speaker 9: Ole Miss has lost the University of Florida, Kentucky and UGA,

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Speaker 9: even Miami for that matter. You lost to a Georgia

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Speaker 9: Tech team that went to eight overtimes with UGA, Right,

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Speaker 9: that's a considering factor.

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Speaker 2: I just think we need to really consider team strength

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Speaker 2: of schedule.

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Speaker 9: Or you're talking about the national championship, do you or

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Speaker 9: have you really earned the right to say that playing

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Speaker 9: the top the tier talent that you've played and no

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Speaker 9: Boise Like without it being gent, I'm like, I don't

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Speaker 9: want to see Boise State. And if Boise State where

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Speaker 9: to play Georgia, would Gent really get off?

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Speaker 2: See?

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Speaker 5: I want to hear your your your take on it,

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Speaker 5: plex but I got a quick one. But what's your take?

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Speaker 5: It's some validity and truth behind it. I understand what

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Speaker 5: he's saying. You know, Indiana, it has on one hundred

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Speaker 5: and second strength of schedule, SMU has the easiest schedule

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Speaker 5: and all of college football.

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean? We're looking at Arizona. They're

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Speaker 4: just schedule the sixty six Arizona State and it is

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Speaker 4: some valiity behind it, but it's I think it's better

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Speaker 4: for college football because we get an opportunity to see

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Speaker 4: an Ashon Genty.

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Speaker 2: Listen a lot of on the East Coast.

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Speaker 4: If it wasn't for yesterday or the last couple of weeks,

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Speaker 4: we wouldn't even know who ashing Genty is because you

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Speaker 4: don't get to see a using.

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Speaker 2: Genty in a Boise State football team.

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Speaker 4: So now you look, we're looking at this situation to

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Speaker 4: where man everybody was saying that we know that Travis

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Speaker 4: Hunter is the best playing college football. What if he

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Speaker 4: does go out he eclipses Therm in the Thomas' record

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Speaker 4: or what are the voters over here going to decide?

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Speaker 4: So there are some pros and obviously there's going to

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Speaker 4: be some cons with this moving forward, but I think

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Speaker 4: that's the best best thing for college football. And just

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Speaker 4: like you said, I do, I do believe that it

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Speaker 4: does come down to a you know, a strength of schedule.

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Speaker 4: When you have an Alabama team who is nine and three,

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Speaker 4: people want to see Alabama, you know, And he does

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Speaker 4: have a point with some of the points that he's making.

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Speaker 4: But I think it's the best thing of college football.

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Speaker 4: I think it's going to only continue to get better,

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Speaker 4: and obviously you know it's going to have some scrutinies

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Speaker 4: of moving forward.

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Speaker 7: I got to ask this to Cam, Like Auburn is

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Speaker 7: basically the Indiana of the SEC. I know people gass

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Speaker 7: up Auburn all the time, but like we're talking about

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Speaker 7: knocking out a Big ten team now, like from a

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Speaker 7: guy who you know played at all, we're knocking out

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Speaker 7: like power for schools already just because you don't like

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Speaker 7: them enough. I don't like this president being.

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Speaker 4: Said as a fan, it's the same thing that happened

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Speaker 4: with Florida State last year.

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Speaker 2: It's the same exact thing. And Florida State is a

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Speaker 2: known brand.

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Speaker 5: They're a known commodity, like a much more established and

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Speaker 5: known commodity in football than what Indiana is. I just

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Speaker 5: think as a fan, the whole idea of this is

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Speaker 5: why you lace it up, you put the pads on,

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Speaker 5: and you play the game. That should mean something. That

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Speaker 5: should mean something. If you prepare, you go to a school,

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Speaker 5: you prepare for the season as a player. Those those

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Speaker 5: players don't decide and choose what their record or what

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Speaker 5: their school you know, schedule is. You prepare, you line

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Speaker 5: it up, you get ready, you play the season. If

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Speaker 5: you win, there should be some type of reward if

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Speaker 5: you win. And if you're at a certain level and

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Speaker 5: you're winning all your games or you win your conference,

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Speaker 5: you should have the opportunity to strap it up and

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Speaker 5: compete and see how you compare. Sometimes it's not about

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Speaker 5: what people want the matchup to be. Sometimes it's about

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Speaker 5: who earnt the matchup. Your schedule is your schedule. You

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Speaker 5: took that schedule knowing that you could possibly lose some

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Speaker 5: of these games. Okay, that's what it is.

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Speaker 2: That's what you did.

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Speaker 5: Your school chowse that it's part of your com friends. SEC,

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Speaker 5: they don't want all that smoke. They don't play as

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Speaker 5: many conference games right as the Big Ten. They don't

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Speaker 5: want that smoke. They want cupcake games at the end

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Speaker 5: of the year where they play Troy State or or

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Speaker 5: a pine you know, Pine Bluff or whatever it is

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Speaker 5: that they play at the end of the year. They

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Speaker 5: don't want all that until they get into the championship round,

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Speaker 5: the SEC championship.

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Speaker 2: I just think as a fan, yes and on one part.

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Speaker 5: One side, I would love to see a Notre Dame

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Speaker 5: versus Alabama versus Notre Dame versus Boyse.

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Speaker 2: I would love that.

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Speaker 5: But on the other side of it, it's like, why

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Speaker 5: is Boyse here? Show me why they're here? My daughter

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Speaker 5: plays for LMU. If there wasn't underdogs and underdogs having

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Speaker 5: the opportunity to show what it is. We never have

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Speaker 5: Cinderella stories. We never have underdog stories. We never have

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Speaker 5: a Hank Gathers, We never have guys that come from

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Speaker 5: Gonzaga that were the reason why a team won in

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Speaker 5: the tournament. Stuff like that. I think there are positive

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Speaker 5: and I think there are negatives to it. I don't

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Speaker 5: necessarily all the way agree with Cam, but with that

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Speaker 5: being said, he does make some valid points on what

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Speaker 5: it is that he's saying. All right, listen up, y'all,

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Speaker 5: take a deep breath, think about what we just talked about,

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Speaker 5: because well we're going to take a quick break as well.

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Speaker 5: Our two of up on game is coming at you

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Speaker 5: in just a matter of seconds. At the top of

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Speaker 5: the hour. We will be talking a little football, but

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Speaker 5: we do have cuffs the legend coming on as well.

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