1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stupidity, home of the greatest media mind ever 2 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: to walk the planet. 3 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 2: Okay, sure, here's a deal. 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 3: He's a true icon in every sense of the word. 5 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: He's loved and feared more than any being to Grace's planet. 6 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: There got a bed with a voice that sounds like 7 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 1: very white and be got to say, Hey, let's do it, baby. 8 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: You God himself would pay thirty nine ninety nine for 9 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: a cameo. Fact of the matter is you are about 10 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: to embark on a transcendent experience that can only be 11 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 1: described as psychological nudity. 12 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 3: This is stu Goox and this is Stupidity. 13 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 2: Here we go, jump toting. 14 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 4: Welcome in to another episode of Stupotoity, the biggest podcast 15 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 4: in the world. Thanks to you, Please subscribe, rate and 16 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 4: review unsubscribed, resubscribe. 17 00:00:57,680 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 2: Re rate, re review. 18 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 4: By doing that, you have made us the biggest podcast 19 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 4: on the planet. 20 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 3: We appreciate it. 21 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:08,479 Speaker 4: Big of the Oprah. How about that we are going 22 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 4: to have Mike toll It on. He is the founder 23 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 4: of slam ball, a sport that me and mikey a love. 24 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 4: But he is not just the founder of slamball. He 25 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 4: is the man who saved all of us, this entire country. 26 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 3: A true patriot. He is the man. 27 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 4: Who rushed, who rushed production on the Last Dance during 28 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 4: the pandemic and got it out five to six weeks 29 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 4: earlier that it should have been released. He saved the pandemic, 30 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 4: He saved me, he saved Mikeya, he saved the entire country. 31 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 4: This is a true patriot and we are thrilled to 32 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 4: be having him on Mike Eya. 33 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:52,279 Speaker 5: I wonder how much the fact that it was released 34 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 5: during the pandemic just upped his viewership and uped the criticism. 35 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 5: I wonder if you just released it like he was 36 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 5: supposed to, if it would have been as big and 37 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 5: as criticized as it was. 38 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 3: It was gonna be big regardless. 39 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 4: It's the documentary on Jordan, on those Bulls teams, so 40 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 4: it was gonna get big numbers regardless, because people are 41 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 4: interested in all things Michael Jordan. 42 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:14,799 Speaker 3: But to your point, you do it at. 43 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 4: A time where no one can go outside, nobody's allowed 44 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 4: to go to work. 45 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 3: Everyone is home, and they're gonna be home for a while. 46 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 3: They knew it. He knew it, and he sees the opportunity, 47 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:28,679 Speaker 3: which is exactly what he should have done. It was 48 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 3: that in Tiger King. 49 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 4: I mean, those two things were the big things during 50 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 4: the pandemic. You couldn't buy free weights, but man, you 51 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 4: can get a great story on Michael Jordan or a 52 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 4: crazy guy you owned tigers. 53 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 3: It was nuts. 54 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 5: The only thing we could do during especially the beginning 55 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 5: part of the pandemic, was watch TV and complain about 56 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 5: it online. 57 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 3: It's the only things we could do. 58 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 4: And then he gave us this wonderful documentary. Wonderful documentary, 59 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 4: but he's also given us this wonderful sport that had 60 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 4: And they just launched a two year deal with ESPN, 61 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 4: a partnership because play by play is all that matters. 62 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 4: It doesn't matter what the sport is. Just live sporting 63 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 4: events is what matters now. And I'm not certain the 64 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 4: ESPN is doing this incorrectly. In fact, I would guess 65 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 4: they're doing this exactly the way they should be doing it. 66 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 4: Just airing play by play, just grabbing all the rights 67 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 4: to every single sport eric live. 68 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 3: Let people gamble. 69 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:29,239 Speaker 4: On it, especially if Yeah, yeah, exactly, but I love 70 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 4: slam ball. It got over two hundred million views on 71 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 4: social media. 72 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 3: I've talked about it on the show with jesz. It 73 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 3: is a mic. 74 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 4: It's a fun sport, it's a fun viewing sport. It's 75 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 4: fun to watch, and like any sport, it's great to 76 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 4: gamble on. 77 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 5: How much would you pay to watch me play slamball? 78 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 3: A lot? 79 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 4: In fact, who's the person you would most want to 80 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 4: see play slam ball? Can you describe slamball to the 81 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 4: audience and they understand what it is we're talking about here? 82 00:03:55,160 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 5: It's it's essentially rough basketball trampolines, Like that's the only 83 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 5: way I can sort of describe it. Like you're going 84 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 5: to jump very high and very hard and people are 85 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 5: going to get in your way. So there's like this 86 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 5: mix of hockey and basketball and even probably a little 87 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 5: football in there. But I'm just wondering if I could 88 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 5: actually bounce on a trampoline at this point or do 89 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 5: I just sink to the bottom and I'm standing on 90 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 5: the floor with the trampoline just sort. 91 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 4: Of So it's a smaller it's not your standard size trampoline, right, 92 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 4: It's a small. 93 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 5: Court actually has trampolines. I think there's like four or 94 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 5: five rounds. 95 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 4: So you were asking the question about yourself that you 96 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 4: want me to answer, Hey, if I jumped on a trampoline. 97 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 3: When I go up and with a trampoline go down 98 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 3: pretty much? Well, what do you think I don't want 99 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 3: to find out? 100 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 2: I do. 101 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 5: Amy. 102 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 3: I'll bet you it. I'll bet you you're not going up. 103 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 3: If you can make yourself go up, then you'll win 104 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 3: some money. You pay me enough, I'll get up. What 105 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 3: goes down stays down? Does that make sense? Sure, you 106 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 3: jump up and then you go down, and then you 107 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 3: stay down. That's what you know, what I'm saying? What 108 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 3: else would you like to see? 109 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 5: Who else would you like to see play slam ball? 110 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 5: That's fun? 111 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 3: Oh man. It's a great question, whether it be for 112 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 3: comedic purposes or for actual like, you know, watching some 113 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 3: of the best athletes play. I would like see. 114 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 4: I'll go that LeVar oh Lebotard has no shot, I mean, 115 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 4: and that trampolin in me. 116 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 5: Lebtard and Chris Cody on a team. 117 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 3: Chris Cody would be good at it. He's a good athlete. 118 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 4: I'm sure athlete, Yes, sure, yeah, trampling down for you, 119 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 4: trampling down for Lebotard. 120 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 3: Cody's not there yet. I think he still goes out. 121 00:05:58,240 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 3: You just see the top of our heads. 122 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd like to play slam ball with Leviatard's head 123 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 4: of the ball. 124 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 3: I could say, yeah, that's personal. I loved it. Oh 125 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 3: my god. 126 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 4: The problem is, I don't know. I'm not certain if 127 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 4: he loves me. Uh So, here is the here's the deal. 128 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 4: Mike Tolon's going to join us. We'll talk slamball. That 129 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 4: just announced an exciting new partnership, and also we'll talk 130 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 4: the last dance, because this guy did save us during 131 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 4: the pandemic. He has quite the impressive movie resume, producer, director, 132 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 4: He's done a lot of big sports stocks, he's done 133 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 4: a lot of big movies. And he is also the 134 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 4: co founder of a sport that mikey A and I love. 135 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 4: It is called slam ball. Let's get to the owner, 136 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 4: Mike Tolan right now. Mike Tolan's going to join us. 137 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 4: He was the savior of the pandemic. We will get 138 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 4: to that in just a second. That's what me and 139 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 4: mikey A if been calling you, Mike, when are you comfortable? 140 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 2: No, man, No, that's way too heavy a burden to 141 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 2: carry her out. Sorry, takes some village. Man, you gotta 142 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 2: count a couple dozen other names. If you're gonna put 143 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 2: the last Dances saving the pandemic. 144 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 3: But well it's you and Tiger King and that's about it. 145 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 3: It's okay. 146 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no. 147 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 4: Mike Toldan wants nothing to do with that. Slamball the 148 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 4: fast based, gravity defining sport that combines elements of basketball, football, hockey, 149 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 4: and trampoline annow. It's an exclusive two year national broadcast 150 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 4: partnership with ESPN for twenty three and twenty to twenty 151 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 4: four two seasons. Very exciting. We have talked about it 152 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 4: on our show. Mikey A and I are both fans 153 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 4: of it. Mike, how'd you get involved with slamball? Congratulations 154 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 4: of the partnership. 155 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 2: Thank you, It's only been since the previous century. Talk 156 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 2: about like, you know, the patron saint of second chances. 157 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 2: So Mason Gordon, a very talented producer and a very 158 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 2: good basketball player who you know. Secretly, I tell him 159 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 2: that I only hired him because he elevated in our 160 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 2: backyard four and for basketball game. So he comes in 161 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 2: with a napkin one day with this crazy, weird primitive 162 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 2: drawing on it, Like, dude, I had this fever dream 163 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 2: and I'm imagining trampoliness. Embttered than a basketball court and 164 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, dude, I'm gonna go make a 165 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 2: movie now in Caroline. 166 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 6: I'll be back in three months. 167 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 2: I come back from I think it was summer catch 168 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 2: and that's how long ago it was. And he's still 169 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 2: there with the napkin. So we said, all right, let's 170 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 2: do a demo. We put it on his feet. We 171 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 2: had a little tape. We went to the new Spike 172 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:36,079 Speaker 2: Network and they were looking for a signature sport and 173 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 2: they bought it, and we did two years and it 174 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 2: was cool and people loved it. It was kind of 175 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 2: like a late night stoner show that people would watch, right, 176 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 2: I see Mikey and so ye all cool. 177 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 3: But so the dream was a football I mean. 178 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 6: Right, but now you can bet on it, so it's 179 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 6: a whole other level. 180 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 2: But so now you know, we were lucky enough to 181 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:03,959 Speaker 2: create a lot of shows and movies and docs and all. 182 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 2: Like the dream was to create a sport, and that 183 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 2: was not really a sport. It was a TV show 184 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 2: in which it felt like sort of a package for it. 185 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 2: But like we're waiting, waiting, waiting. 186 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 6: We've been at the China. 187 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 2: We wandered in the wilderness and like during the pandemic. Well, 188 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 2: I guess we were saving the day for you guys. Meanwhile, 189 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 2: a lot of people were going on social media and 190 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 2: trading these highlights of this crazy game that was now 191 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 2: basically dormant, and all of a sudden, there's a hashtag 192 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 2: bring back Slam. Well that's got half a billion views 193 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 2: or something, So here we go. We just sort of said, 194 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 2: maybe it's time. Maybe the universe was speaking loud and clear, 195 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 2: and you know, we went out to the investment community, 196 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 2: and we went out to the media community and like 197 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 2: got a really resounding response and two nights away, Man, 198 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 2: you could see it behind me. 199 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 6: We're looking live Friday night from. 200 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 2: The Cox Pavilion in Las Vegas, Nevada, where it'll be 201 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:00,080 Speaker 2: one hundred and fifteen degrees outside. 202 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 3: So you might as well be inside, right right exactly, Mike. 203 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 5: I'm looking at that set up behind you, and I'm 204 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 5: just wondering how much of this was born from a 205 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 5: bunch of white guys that wanted to dunk. 206 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 2: Good question, really great question, really from one white white 207 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 2: guy who could dunk and all do with all due respect, 208 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 2: Mason was a dunker and like he's got the video 209 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 2: key cued up for Friday Night when we talk about 210 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 2: the founder and people assume that he's like, look, check 211 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:29,439 Speaker 2: me out, man, I could dunk. He's a he's a 212 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 2: pretty good basketball player. The thing, though, Mike, is that 213 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 2: the guys who are playing it have all been like, 214 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 2: you know, D one players. 215 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 6: They're playing overseas, like they just missed. 216 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 2: You know, they're they're kind of tweeters, right, but they 217 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 2: have they have the attitude, they have the desire, the hunger. 218 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 2: It's like, you know, the guys who just missed and 219 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 2: have been out there doing their thing but not really 220 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 2: you know. It's kind of like a Pat Bev, Right, 221 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 2: how long was he, you know, banished to overseas and 222 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 2: he comes back with that ferocity. I look at I 223 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,599 Speaker 2: look at the NBA, and I go the guys that 224 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:05,599 Speaker 2: would kill and SLAMBA are guys like Pat bed and Westbrook. 225 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:07,839 Speaker 2: When when Russell's done with his forty three million in 226 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 2: a year, he's coming right to slamball. 227 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 3: But he's making forty three million a year. He doesn't 228 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 3: need slam ball. 229 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,959 Speaker 2: No, but he does for his competitive desires. Like AI 230 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 2: twenty years ago, when AI stood for Allen Iverson and 231 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 2: not artificial intelligence don't you feel bad for the answer, 232 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 2: Like he's been obliterated when you go Google. 233 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 6: AI now it's not him anymore. 234 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 2: But those are the guys. So so Wressell by a 235 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 2: team and he don't want to be a player owner. 236 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 6: It's gonna be awesome. 237 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 3: So Mike, like, what sold you on it? What was 238 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 3: the final thing? 239 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 4: Because originally you said your friend came in, you had 240 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 4: a movie to go make, you left them alone. He 241 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:50,199 Speaker 4: sat there with a piece of paper. What ultimately sold 242 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 4: Mike Tollin on, Hey, this is a good idea. 243 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 2: We did a demo, it looked cool, and ultimately, you know, 244 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 2: I buy into passion because that's the only way I 245 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 2: can I can get excited about this show. 246 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 6: It's so damn hard. 247 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 2: You guys know that the arena, the sports media landscape, 248 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 2: it's so competitive and it's so hard to actually get traction. 249 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:15,719 Speaker 2: So you basically have to love something enough to be 250 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 2: willing to get your head bashed in repeatedly. And I 251 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:22,599 Speaker 2: saw Mason's passion and I, you know, dream and a 252 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:24,839 Speaker 2: dream like we could actually create a sport and it 253 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 2: wasn't you know, it's not like it didn't work. The 254 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 2: ratings were good, Spike wanted it. They wanted to renew 255 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 2: it and worked in China, the greatest out of town. 256 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 2: Try it all the time. 257 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 6: Let's just go to the other side of the world. 258 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:41,319 Speaker 2: So you know, I look, we sometimes take ten fifteen 259 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 2: years to get a movie off the ground, from the 260 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 2: time we buy the rights to a riteful script. 261 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 6: I love Mason, I believe in his passion. I ultimately 262 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 6: shared it. And when I saw that, we're in a 263 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 6: world where live sports is like. 264 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 2: The only thing getting ratings right, you know, except in 265 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 2: time shifted universe that I always say, I get tired 266 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 2: of say, but it's true, Like it's the only water 267 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:05,359 Speaker 2: cooler culchure left. Is live sports that you can't. 268 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 6: You can't talk about. 269 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 2: I love the Bear right, but like I've seen three 270 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 2: episodes and my daughter has only seen the first one, 271 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 2: so I can't talk to about it. But if you 272 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 2: in sports, you've got to watch the game the night 273 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 2: before you're all talking about it the next day. So 274 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 2: when I saw that, you know, ESPN was kind of 275 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 2: present this thing as a live sports with with standings, 276 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 2: with stats, you know, people choosing their favorite teams, Like 277 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 2: we're actually inventing stats. I mean, that's the thing too, 278 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:35,839 Speaker 2: Like this is a talk about a dream come too. 279 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 2: It's like instead of rebounds, we have LBRs, which stands 280 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:42,839 Speaker 2: for a loose balls retrieved right because the ball's kind 281 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 2: of bounce crazy off the tramp. So like we're gonna 282 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 2: have live box scores as the games are going, as 283 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 2: you're betting on it. 284 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 6: Hopefully people are buying this. 285 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 2: Wag one of the investors and slabballs Michael Rubin who 286 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:58,079 Speaker 2: runs fanatics. So you know, we just we just kept going, going, going, 287 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 2: and you know, the people people started giving us the 288 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 2: responses and. 289 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 6: We're ready to bring it. 290 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 5: Mike, you mentioned how it was this stoner mentality. I 291 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:12,559 Speaker 5: remember watching it, you know, back in two thousand and 292 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 5: two thousand and two, two thousand and three around that time, 293 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 5: and what what's different this time? What why is it 294 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 5: going to work this time more than it did then? 295 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 2: Well for all the reasons I just said, Mike that 296 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 2: it's you know, a you can bet on it, be 297 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 2: it's real, and like you can hopefully fall in love 298 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 2: with this guy Bryce and fall in love with you know, 299 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 2: Coach Carter, the original Ken Carter, who was played by 300 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 2: Sam Jackson in the movie Back then is back to 301 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 2: coach the Rumble and early season favorite. I just saw 302 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 2: the posted lines. The Rumble is a three to one 303 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 2: favorite to win it all. 304 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 6: So the games are short, they're half hour games. 305 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 2: So if you've teen in ESPN on at seven o'clock 306 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 2: on Friday night, you will see a two hour block 307 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 2: in which team the Rumbo plays them Bob, and then 308 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 2: two other teams play, and then the two winners play 309 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 2: and sort of like a little mini tournament. 310 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 6: Right. 311 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 2: So, I think it's just gonna feel more authentic. We're 312 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 2: gonna have great broadcasters, We're gonna have guys you know 313 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 2: from football and basketball, x NBA Slam Dunk Champions, x 314 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 2: x NFL Superstars, so credibility, authenticity. 315 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 6: It's just incredible action that you can't see anywhere else. 316 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 4: I think Mike both Mike's I think Mike Tolan hit 317 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 4: on it from this regard, and he's had a great, 318 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 4: great career and a very impressive resume. 319 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 3: And we'll get to that in just a second. 320 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 4: But ESPN has clearly shifted to play by play, and 321 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 4: you're right, it's the thing that's kind of free you have. 322 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 3: It's appointment. 323 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 4: It's the only thing we have left in America appointment 324 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 4: viewing that in the last dance. 325 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 3: Okay, well we'll get to it in a second. Right, 326 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 3: it's it's appointment viewing. 327 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 4: You cannot watch the game the next day otherwise social 328 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 4: media will ruin it. And Mike, my guess is you 329 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 4: saw that opportunity on the worldwide leader in sports and said, yeah. 330 00:15:59,120 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 3: Let's go. 331 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 2: Let's go. Yes, And I give Jimmy Pataro a great 332 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 2: credit for investing in US and believing US. Look, you know, 333 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 2: you see what right how rights are escalating. And obviously 334 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 2: he's in at the highest level. He's got you know, 335 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 2: many of the premiere events. So you know, I think 336 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 2: it's just taking a shot with US investing in US. 337 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 2: I was there way back when in nineteen eighty two 338 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 2: leading to eighty three in this fledgling spring football league 339 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 2: called the USFL, the original USFL. And in retrospect, if 340 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 2: we had hitched our wagons to this fledgling little cable 341 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 2: network called ESPN that was only in its fourth or 342 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 2: fifth year, and if a certain real estate baron from 343 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 2: New York City had gotten in a way and killed 344 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 2: the league might still have been going and they wouldn't 345 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 2: have had to bring it back after a twenty year hiatus. 346 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 4: That's the power. That's the power of that brand, that 347 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 4: network and a ESPN. Could you imagine a couple of 348 00:16:54,920 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 4: idiots leaving that network? I mean, no comment, well, playing 349 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 4: go ahead, like you can't get into that. 350 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 5: I'm gonna do my best stuts question here. So if there, 351 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 5: if every player from every sport became available and you 352 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 5: could draft any four you wanted to come play slam 353 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 5: ball and only slam ball? Which four you take it? 354 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:21,719 Speaker 3: Westbrook? 355 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 2: I already told you, Westbrook, I gotta take I gotta 356 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,479 Speaker 2: take Jailing because I'm a Philly guy and like his 357 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 2: work ethic and his determination and how like he'd be 358 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 2: because does he really have to figure out strategy in 359 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 2: this sport? Bryce Harper? Again Philly, but like who works 360 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 2: harder and he's more intense than Bryce. 361 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 6: I gotta disqualify myself as. 362 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 2: A hockey guy because I'm not there. 363 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 6: So that's my big three. 364 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 4: Okay, Uh the time that Philadelphia Sports made you feel 365 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 4: the worst. 366 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 2: Oh my god? Well okay, okay, gott this is really 367 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 2: aging myself. 368 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 3: I'm a Jet fan, Mike, so I mean, I listen, 369 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:01,959 Speaker 3: I know how it feels. 370 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 2: I got There are so many candidates for that though, 371 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 2: but so like, I'm going to give you one before 372 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 2: you guys were alive. Sorry, I'm going to date myself 373 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 2: whether I was eight years old, the sixty four Phillies 374 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 2: had a six and a half game lead with twelve 375 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 2: to play. 376 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 6: My dad brought home World Series tickets. 377 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 2: We're going to the World Series. Unbelievable. Richie Allen is 378 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 2: Rookie of the Year, my boyhood hero. All we got 379 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 2: to do is just like hanging there. We lose game 380 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:28,640 Speaker 2: after game. 381 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,199 Speaker 6: I'm watching. I'm listening on the transistor radio every night, 382 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:34,439 Speaker 6: ride myself to sleep. As a little kid, we lost ten. 383 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:36,880 Speaker 2: In a row. We finished one game out behind the Cardinals, 384 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 2: and like it took us another two decades to get there. 385 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 4: So that is coming from a man who just watches 386 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:45,640 Speaker 4: Sixers lose to the Celtics. 387 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 2: Watch them, watch them in person at the PD Garden. Yes, 388 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 2: the Sixer disappointments where we're just every year, you know, 389 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,199 Speaker 2: losing for Rustle. Right, but like now I get to 390 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 2: relive that. Watch in the Wilt the Wilt documentary, right, 391 00:18:57,480 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 2: finally we won. That was the only title. I had. 392 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 2: There's so many, I mean, I went to every Super Bowl, 393 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 2: So you know, I had to walk a shame in 394 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 2: Jacksonville after Donovan threw up in the backfield and we 395 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 2: didn't get that last last drive that could have beaten 396 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:14,199 Speaker 2: the Patriots the first time. But you know, to have 397 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 2: an eighteen year old son with me in Minneapolis watching 398 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 2: Nick Foles out due Tom Brady and maybe the greatest 399 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 2: blow ever. Oh man, you know for Philly that night. 400 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 3: That's the guy Brady can't beat Nick Foles. 401 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:31,639 Speaker 2: What a weird nick Foles. You know there's a statue 402 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 2: of Nick Foles in Philly. 403 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:33,959 Speaker 6: How about that there? 404 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 3: Really there shouldn't be, though, and you know that, I mean, 405 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 3: why not? Why not look at one statue and it's 406 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 3: Rocky that's it? 407 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 6: Okay, sure enough, fair. 408 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 3: Enough, he says, you're conceding that easily. 409 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 2: Whatever. I know, I've seen the trophy is sitting there 410 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:52,919 Speaker 2: at the Art Museum. But but so yeah, just in 411 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 2: the last year, I went to all six World Series 412 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 2: games and watched this lose on the Alvarez homer that's 413 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 2: still going I think, and used they went to the 414 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 2: Super Bowl and watched this lose on that ridiculous interference 415 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 2: called in the last minute against the Chiefs, then went 416 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 2: to t D Garden and watched this losing game Segon. 417 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:14,360 Speaker 6: And we just keep coming back for more Glutton for punishing. 418 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 4: Where does Mike Golick fall in terms of your top 419 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 4: one hundred Philadelphia athletes of all time? 420 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 3: Is Golic anywhere on that list? 421 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 2: He's not what sorry, I got nothing. I mean there's 422 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:34,640 Speaker 2: he's uh, he's way behind Bill Bergie, He's way He's 423 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 2: way behind. Uh. 424 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 6: Come on, man, the long long list. 425 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 3: Mike. 426 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 4: Mike tells us stories all the time on God Bless 427 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 4: Football that his job was to not get into Reggie 428 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 4: White's way. 429 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,400 Speaker 6: That was right, I get it. 430 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 3: It's just Mike, stand up, don't move your your career. 431 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 4: It's as I mentioned earlier, uh, super impressive resume. But 432 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 4: it seemed like you started off back in college like 433 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 4: you wanted to be a sports broadcast so you love 434 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:07,120 Speaker 4: sports clearly, and somehow you turned into this guy that's 435 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 4: making messive, big sports documentaries. How did that shift happen? 436 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 3: Like, when did you realize broadcasting is not the thing, 437 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:14,919 Speaker 3: this is what I want to do. 438 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 2: I'm guessing your listeners have been realizing it for the 439 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 2: last twenty minutes that maybe it was a good idea 440 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,919 Speaker 2: to stick out of broadcasting. No, I mean like that 441 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 2: was just a lark. I mean, you guys are so 442 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 2: damn lucky. I've never had more fun. And we were 443 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 2: doing the Stamford basketball games, me and my three best 444 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 2: buddies who are still my best buddies, and we'd go 445 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 2: we'd go to Palo out there and we get you know, 446 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 2: the local restaurants and men's stores to give us checks 447 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 2: so that we could fly to LA and fly to Oregon, 448 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 2: fly to Washington, and we did these games. It was 449 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 2: a blast, but it never really seemed like I had 450 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 2: that whatever that is, whatever you guys got. So I 451 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 2: was lucky enough to come back to Philly and intern 452 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 2: for one hundred and forty bucks a week plus as money. 453 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 6: So I think if you do the math, it was 454 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 6: twenty bucks in gas. 455 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 2: I was making one hundred and sixty bucks for an 456 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 2: eighty hour week, easy math, two bucks an hour. I'm 457 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 2: living large. So that was greatest sports legends again before 458 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 2: you guys were born. And we did half hour highlight 459 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 2: shows and Tom Siever was the host and we'd bring 460 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 2: on Ted Williams and bring on will Chairman and greet 461 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:24,400 Speaker 2: rose and again like dream Job, and then I decided 462 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,880 Speaker 2: that I had a problem with authority and I needed 463 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 2: to start my own business. Did a little stint in 464 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 2: Major League Baseball, did the Phillies World Series film in 465 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 2: nineteen eighty, did. 466 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 6: The Baseball Runch at John E. Bench, and then went 467 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 6: out of my own and kind of got the rights to. 468 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,400 Speaker 2: The USFL And that was my first forat into like 469 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 2: you know, think or swim. 470 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 6: You own yourself too, Yeah, to impress. 471 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 2: So it's been a a forty years of what I 472 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 2: like to call gainful unemployment. 473 00:22:55,440 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 4: Slamball is back Michel and the creator of Slamball, with 474 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 4: US two year national broadcast partnership. 475 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 3: With ESPN the next two seasons. It begins opening night. 476 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,360 Speaker 4: As Slamball relaunches live from Vegas, July twenty first, seven 477 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 4: to nine pm on. 478 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 3: ESPN, ESPN two, and ESPN Plus. 479 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 4: For more information, check them out at Slamball League dot com. 480 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 4: What's the thing that you are proudest of on your resume, Mike. 481 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 6: I'll take one from fiction and one from documentary. 482 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 2: Okay, is that fair? 483 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 3: Yeah? 484 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:31,159 Speaker 2: Totally okay. 485 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 6: The movie Radio, I directed it, I produced it. 486 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 2: I spent five years with the writers, It led to 487 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,439 Speaker 2: a foundation being born, It led to a man in 488 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 2: South Carolina living on the margins having a life of dignity, 489 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 2: led to relationships with Debra Winger and Putting and Ed Harrison. 490 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 2: Just a joy from beginning to end, and something I'm 491 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 2: really proud of in terms of the values that it represents. 492 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:00,479 Speaker 2: On the dock side, I would probably to go with 493 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:04,400 Speaker 2: Chasing the Dream, the Hank Aaron film, because similarly, Ted 494 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,919 Speaker 2: Turner came in and launched the foundation with us, and 495 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 2: we've now given away I don't know twenty million dollars 496 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 2: in donations to kids I under the kids who are 497 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 2: chasing their own dreams. And Henry Aaron became like uncle 498 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 2: uncle Hank to me and got now name for an oscar. 499 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,719 Speaker 2: And there's an exhibit now Cooper's down and Chasing the Dream. Exhibit's, 500 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 2: you know, sort of the gifts that keep on giving 501 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 2: in terms of how they're resonating the world and their impact. 502 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 6: So really really lucky to do with them things like that, Mike. 503 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 4: Of all the people you've worked with, Hank Aaron being 504 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 4: one of them, Michael Jordan of course another of all 505 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 4: the people you've worked with, or athletes that you've come across. 506 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 4: Which one did you find to be the most interesting. 507 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 2: Wow, that's a tough one. You should have prepped me 508 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 2: with that one, stude. That's good. 509 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, man, I just figured it was Michael. I 510 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 4: don't know, but maybe there's another annis. 511 00:24:55,680 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, Yes, Michael's the most captivating because as a credit 512 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 2: to his partners SD and Curtis, you know, they have 513 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 2: really protected his ara. They've built this incredible empire. I 514 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 2: mean you could look at the stats. I mean the 515 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 2: shoe sales are like ten x or maybe twenty x 516 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 2: now from what it was during his career. And Michael 517 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 2: has lived his private life. I stayed out of the 518 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 2: public eye by and large, I mean commercials and all, 519 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 2: but not appearances, not interviews. And so when he crazily 520 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:32,880 Speaker 2: said yes to doing this thing, everybody was just you know, 521 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 2: leaning in right, pandemic or not. He just couldn't wait 522 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 2: to hear what he said. And it was so refreshing. 523 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 2: And you know, people say, well, how did you get 524 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 2: him to say yes? Well, you know, right time, right place, 525 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 2: he was just ready. It was twenty years or so 526 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 2: after he played. He had a new wife, he had 527 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 2: new kids, and new family, you know, I said to him, 528 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 2: every day people come into my office wearing your sues 529 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 2: have never seen to play, and it's time. 530 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 7: And I think he got that it was kind of 531 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 7: a legacy. So it just felt so real and authentic 532 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 7: and from the heart. Jason Hare, the director, gets enormous 533 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:13,640 Speaker 7: credit for, you know, engineering this thing through the stick 534 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,679 Speaker 7: of the pandemic. And if there's one moment where we 535 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 7: kind of knew this that we had something, it was 536 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 7: it was in the first oneterview where it's still really early, 537 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,679 Speaker 7: where you know, who knows how this is going to go, 538 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 7: And Jason says, let's talk about the flying cocaine circuits. 539 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,640 Speaker 7: Remember the crazy, the craziness they went on the bulletins 540 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 7: Whippie year. Now, Michael could have gotten up and walked 541 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 7: out at that point, or could have just you know, 542 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 7: said I don't know what you're talking about, or you know, 543 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 7: slept it off, but like he slapped his knee. He 544 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 7: laughed so hard and then he kind of recounted all 545 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 7: of the debauchery in that room, and all of a 546 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 7: sudden we realized he's in you know, so so ten 547 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 7: hours of really feeling like you're getting the authentic Michael Jordan, 548 00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 7: who you know, remains. 549 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 6: The goat of all coach to me, pretty great rides. 550 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 3: Mike. 551 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 5: He kind of said a tongue in cheek about you 552 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 5: being the savior of the pandemic, But I was you 553 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 5: did radio. 554 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, well no, and I wasn't saying a tongue in cheek. 555 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 3: He was the savior of the pandemic. 556 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, I was working in radio, and I remember, you know, 557 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 5: coming in and trying to find something to talk about 558 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 5: when there was nothing going on to talk about. And 559 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 5: then the decision was made to actually move up when 560 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 5: you guys were going to air the Jordan documentary. And 561 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 5: I'm just curious what went into that. What was was 562 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 5: what was your reaction when they told you, Hey, we 563 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 5: don't want to air this. I think it was supposed 564 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 5: to be in the summer. We want to air it now. 565 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 6: Yeah. 566 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 2: Again, you gotta listen to the clamor. I mean, that 567 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 2: was a much bigger clamor than the Slambull clamber. With 568 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 2: all due respects Lebron James is posting to his eighty 569 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 2: five or however, followers like, we need the last dance 570 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,159 Speaker 2: to be moved up, so they canceled the They canceled 571 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 2: March Madness. Adam Post owns the NBA season. It's Marks. 572 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,880 Speaker 2: It's Friday, the thirteenth in the world is closing down, 573 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 2: and we're looking at a first week of June premiere. 574 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 2: There was an emergency call put together for that Monday, 575 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 2: which I guess would be Mark sixteenth. And so we 576 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 2: have Netflix, we have ESPN, we have the Jordan Group, 577 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 2: and we have the NBA, and we have Mandally Sports 578 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 2: Media for the five separate constituencies, all rushing just to 579 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 2: make the June date, and all of a sudden, we're 580 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 2: moving it up to six weeks. Because you know, it's 581 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 2: like you get in the huddle and you plan the strategy, 582 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 2: then you walk to the line of screaming do you see, Oh, 583 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 2: I didn't expect that defense to be in place, So 584 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 2: you call an audible. 585 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 6: This is the greatest audible you could have ever imagined. 586 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 2: So we basically just looked at where we are, which 587 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 2: was honestly, like, out of ten episodes, we were only 588 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 2: close to done with five, and the other five were 589 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 2: in various stages of you know, color correction. There still 590 00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 2: some offline editing. Line offline editing still to come. Sound 591 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 2: mixing effects, you know, all the all the finishing touches 592 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 2: months and months ahead of us. So we said, when 593 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 2: could we get episodes nine and ten done. We sort 594 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 2: of back timed it to what would be five weeks out, 595 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 2: and so then we moved it forward to when we 596 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 2: would be the first you know, so we ended up 597 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 2: moving it up six weeks or something. And again to 598 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 2: Jason's credit, we had five editors and they each took 599 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 2: their drives home to their respective outposts and the five 600 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 2: boroughs of New York and they're all cutting and we're 601 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 2: just like, you know, hoping this crazy jigsaw puzzle is 602 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 2: going to come together with ten different episodes. And it 603 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 2: sort of worked. And again it was a great team. 604 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 2: It was pulled together amazingly. We got huge support. Michael, 605 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 2: despite what you may hear, gave us total freedom. There 606 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 2: was no Michael telling us to edit things out. I mean, 607 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 2: you know, once people study again usefully, so you know, 608 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 2: we didn't get to have that ride. 609 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 3: And he gave you guys, final Say Hi Mike. 610 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 2: Really yeah, yeah, we were all I mean, Final Say 611 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 2: was a collective of all those entries. 612 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 6: But yeah, it wasn't coming from him. 613 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 3: You know. 614 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 2: The only suggestion Tom late, I don't forgiven were things 615 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 2: that we left out that he suggested, Hey, maybe you 616 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 2: missed the Indiana game after I came back, which which 617 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 2: was right before the Double Nickel game in the Guarden, 618 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 2: because the first game he came back, we showed he 619 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 2: was just clanking right. And then the next thing he 620 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 2: shows the double Nickel game, and he said, there's a 621 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 2: game in Indiana where I found my stroke, where I 622 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 2: got my confidence back. 623 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 6: And so Jason and the team went and found it. 624 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 6: We put it in and like great idea. 625 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 4: So Mikey basically he called it audible, like he came 626 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 4: out Friday the thirteenth was like every other day that 627 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 4: we've ever had in our entire lives. And then you know, 628 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 4: it was a four to three defense, and then Friday, 629 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 4: Saturday the fourteenth, a wacky defense. 630 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 3: Called the pandemic, and they were like everyone's home and 631 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 3: they ain't going anywhere. Let's release the movies. 632 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 2: Is that fair? 633 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 6: You got it? 634 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 2: It's become my prevailing philosophy of life. Just like look 635 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 2: at the defense man, make sure you know you may 636 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 2: be calling Omaha. 637 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 6: You gotta assess the situation. 638 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 4: Is there a criticism that you've heard or read about 639 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 4: the last Dance that you would consider to be fair. 640 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 2: I've heard the criticism from you know, people like Scottie 641 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 2: and and Taris and all. 642 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 6: Like that I consider to be fair. Some people think 643 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 6: it's to be longer. People talk about what we left out. 644 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 2: Okay. You know Luke Longley's you know, writing from Australia 645 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 2: and he's got his narrative. Look, Jason and I remember 646 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 2: the day we were talking about episode ten. You know, 647 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 2: we had we had blueprints right, and we figured out 648 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 2: what was going to be there. And he called me 649 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 2: and said, there's no way we're getting the all faith 650 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 2: faint speaking, there's no way we're getting the Washington Wizards. 651 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 2: Gam like we're gonna barely get the celebration after the 652 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 2: sixth title. 653 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 3: No one needs the Wizards, by the way, possess. 654 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 6: So if there was something, I forgot it and happy 655 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 6: to be moving on. 656 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 3: We'll get back to Slamball in a second. 657 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 4: But I'm wondering the project that you said no to 658 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 4: that you now regret because it became a huge success. 659 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 2: I have to think about that too. 660 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 6: See, these are all questions you've given in advance, man, because. 661 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 3: That's not how. 662 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 2: No, I'm kidding. There are a lot of projects that 663 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 2: I didn't get that went elsewhere, projects that I said 664 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 2: no to. I don't know, man, Because we generate. It's 665 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 2: not like people are coming to us with projects. For 666 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 2: the most part, we're generating in ourselves. So it's really 667 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 2: more for me to think about the project that I 668 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 2: said yes to, but the world had said no to me. 669 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 2: Like you know, I told you about my great hurt 670 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 2: in nineteen sixty four. Well, I'm now in the year 671 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 2: twenty five on the Richie Allen project. The world hasn't 672 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 2: said yes. Well, Paramount actually said yes to a script 673 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 2: deal and so we were actually particulating pretty well on that, 674 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 2: and then the strike happened. But we do have a 675 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 2: script popping, and we do hope to get Richie and 676 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 2: in the Hall of Fame and happy have a happy ending, 677 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 2: and hopefully that'll be the ultimate yes for me is 678 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 2: to get that script made. 679 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 4: That Phillies team that you love so much, with Mitch 680 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 4: Williams and Morndini and Kruck. 681 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 3: I believe like there's a movie right there with those guys. 682 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 6: I think, I don't know, Yes, Yes, ninety three Phillies. 683 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 2: They were picked to finish lasted when the Pennant I 684 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 2: was in Toronto when Joe Carter hit the home I 685 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 2: might have cried some tears there. 686 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 6: To be honest with you, I take my take my 687 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 6: teams very seriously. 688 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 2: As you can tell. I have heard that Bill Giles, 689 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 2: who was the owner of the team, pits me that 690 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 2: idea ste guts for many many years. He finally gave up. 691 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 2: So if he asked him, I guess the pet that 692 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 2: somebody said no to. We're actually working on We're trying 693 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 2: to put a baseball you know, there are all these 694 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 2: projects now where they're multi team universes, right like starting 695 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 2: with Drive to Survive. You know, there's a tennis one 696 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 2: and a golf one, in a surfing one and the 697 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 2: and a Tour de Fronts one. So we're working on 698 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 2: a baseball one, which of course would shills where we 699 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 2: can you know, be focusing on six or thirteens during 700 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 2: the playoffs. It's a good year for baseball, right Tennis 701 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 2: is up, Ratings are up, the games are so much quicker, 702 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,440 Speaker 2: you know, in my heart, really I'm a baseball guy, 703 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,360 Speaker 2: I guess really from the Jumpers, because that was the 704 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 2: family I grew up in and my kid is working 705 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 2: for a minor league baseball team in Colorade. 706 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 3: Either that team or the Philly Fanatic. I'm serious. 707 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 4: I'm being dead serious, like I would be glued to 708 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 4: a documentary about that mascot in particular. 709 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,360 Speaker 2: Really, Okay, man, let's put it in development. 710 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 6: You'll be an executive producer. 711 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,279 Speaker 3: Yes, that's what Listen. I just throw out ideas, Mikey, Yeah, 712 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 3: get that together for him. Okay, Yeah, you got it. 713 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 3: Oh God, sam Ball is back. 714 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,799 Speaker 2: Come to slam Boss, didn't he That's what we should do, right, Yeah? 715 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 3: Well, I was wondering. I was gonna ask you before 716 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 3: I promoted again, do you need announcers? Because if you do, 717 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 3: I'm there. 718 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 2: I mean really yeah. A little late for this year, 719 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 2: but you know, hopefully we're gonna have a lot of 720 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 2: seasons upcoming. Man. Yes, I got your number. 721 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 3: Kay I listen, I'm in Vegas, Slamball me and you. 722 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 2: I'm in Okay, Okay, man, Okay, it's a date. I'll 723 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:27,359 Speaker 2: tell Skipper. We'll make the deal. 724 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 3: Okay, thank you. Two year partnership with ESPN. 725 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 4: Slamball is back this season and the twenty twenty four 726 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 4: season opening night relaunches Live in Vegas on July twenty first, 727 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:43,360 Speaker 4: from seven to nine Eastern ESPN, ESPN two, ESPN plus. 728 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 3: You went over I think two hundred million views, million 729 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:47,760 Speaker 3: on social media. 730 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 4: Unbelievable, unbelievable how popular this thing has become. Slamball League 731 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 4: dot com is the website. Who is the greatest slam 732 00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 4: ball player of all time? 733 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 2: Is there one nickname? Yes, his nickname is Sheiks. His 734 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 2: name is Stanley Fletcher. He is the unrivaled goat of 735 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 2: slam ball. We used to say Stanley grew up on 736 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:12,960 Speaker 2: a planet where slam ball was the national sport, so 737 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:14,759 Speaker 2: he was playing it from the time he was three, 738 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,320 Speaker 2: and that's why he has these ridiculous moves that nobody 739 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 2: else has been able to do. 740 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 6: And the goodness is Stanley is back coaching the Slasher. 741 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,319 Speaker 6: So let's see. You know that old thing, the great 742 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,839 Speaker 6: players don't make great coaches. Let's see if he can 743 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 6: be an exception. You're right. 744 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:32,959 Speaker 3: Billy Cunningham, though, was a pretty good goat shot. 745 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, not as good as a player. But here's a 746 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 2: little trivia question. The sixty seven six ers, the a 747 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,360 Speaker 2: forremened my only championship team as a kid, had what 748 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 2: Hall of Famer who didn't make the starting lineup. Billy 749 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 2: Cunningham sat on the bench behind Luke Jackson and Chet Walker. 750 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 6: In the front. 751 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 2: God's right, I know, crazy, Yeah, you. 752 00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,920 Speaker 3: Really are a Philly dork. You know that's can I 753 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:00,279 Speaker 3: say that in the most loving way. 754 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 2: I've been called worse to that. 755 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:04,799 Speaker 3: Mike. 756 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:08,759 Speaker 4: We appreciate you saving the pandemic. We appreciate everything you 757 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:12,400 Speaker 4: have done. You are true paid an American, that's what 758 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,840 Speaker 4: you are. You saved us, man, we needed something. You 759 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 4: gave us something. 760 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,719 Speaker 2: Man, it was great. I'm giving you something else. There 761 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 2: it is behind us. 762 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 6: It's coming live. 763 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 3: Promote it, Mike, go ahead and promote the hell out 764 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 3: of it. You saved America. Go ahead, you deserve it. 765 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 2: Our seven seconds are better than anybody else's. Tune in live, 766 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:30,719 Speaker 2: then watch the highlights. 767 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:31,800 Speaker 6: Go slamball. 768 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 3: All right, thanks, Hey, this was a lot of fun. 769 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 4: We appreciate it. Your work is fantastics. Lamball is a 770 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 4: lot of fun. And we'll be checking it out and 771 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,720 Speaker 4: you're on the right path. People will watch anything that's live, 772 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 4: that's play by play, and then they could bet on Okay. 773 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 3: That is it. 774 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:48,240 Speaker 2: He love it, man, Let's keep rolling. 775 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,240 Speaker 3: Thanks you guys, and we appreciate it. I look forward 776 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,279 Speaker 3: to being the voice of Slamball next year too, by 777 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 3: the way, just a matter of time, all right, Mike, 778 00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 3: thank you so much, good luck this year, and congrat 779 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,400 Speaker 3: relations again on the new partnership with ESPN. That's awesome. 780 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,239 Speaker 6: Thanks guys, appreciate it. Good to be with you. 781 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:06,319 Speaker 3: Okay, Thanks Mike.