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Visit audible dot com, slash I 27 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: heart or text I Heeart to five hundred, five hundred. 28 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 1: My next guest is a farmer Atlanta falcons running back 29 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: and gets what we're talking in Atlanta, George. He's from 30 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 1: Michigan State, one of my favorite schools up there in Michigan. 31 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: I know it's cold. He is now the owner of 32 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: Duckett Brothers Distributing and The Printing King. I'm a printing King. 33 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: And see see if you're gonna name a company, put 34 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: a big name on the printing King. You're like printing 35 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: somebody printing one or one. We are the Printing King. 36 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: Please welcome to money making Conversations. Y'all might know him 37 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: as Todd Jeffrey Duckett. I call him by his playing 38 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 1: name t J. Duckett. How you doing that, J What's 39 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: happening t J. It's really interesting because of the fact 40 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 1: that you know Todd Jeffrey that you know you you go, 41 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: you're born with that name, you go to middle school, 42 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: you go through high school, you get to college, and 43 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: all of a sudden you become that brand. And I 44 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: would saying you have to, but you know that brand 45 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: can also limit opportunities. So tell us about when you 46 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: know it was all great? I think you know, work done, 47 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: Michael Vick y'all over here, just trampling people and Falcon 48 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: Stadium doing your thing. You know, d v D d 49 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 1: v D the big bruiser two in the fifty pound 50 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: buzzing through the line. You need one, y'r a touchdown? 51 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: Give it to Duckete, Give it to Duckette, give it 52 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: to t J. You know what I'm saying, You go, Okay, 53 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: that doesn't work in the real world. T J. Don't 54 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: have that same transition. How did you how did you change? 55 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: How did you how did you make that switch? And 56 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: we go tell you tell a part of your journey now, yeah, well, 57 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 1: let's uh, I mean the the journey he got to 58 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,959 Speaker 1: start in the beginning. Man, So as a kid, as 59 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: a kid having the dream to even just I mean 60 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: a kid, what you want to do when your girl 61 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 1: club everybody raised their hand and half of them want 62 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 1: to sing, they half want to play on the board. 63 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: So I was on the one to play a sports side. 64 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: And and then to to have that that dream, and 65 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: then to see my brother, my old my middle brother 66 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: Tico to eleven years older than me. He actually um 67 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: went to ended up getting a scholarship at Michigan State, 68 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 1: became the second all time leading Russia at the school history, 69 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: and kind of paved the way. So to see that 70 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: dream even closer to home and the potential of it 71 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: being more realistic, I became I created that identity. I mean, 72 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: as an eight nine year old, I'm t J Duck 73 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: at this football start. I'm you know, I'm just pretending this. 74 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: I'm I'm visualizing this as a kid, And throughout the 75 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: years you had checkpoints. You couldn't be an eight year 76 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: old NFL player, but you could be the best kid 77 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: at the park, And as you get older, you could 78 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: be the best kid in high school. And then you know, 79 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: you keep going rising up the ladder, but you always 80 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: have that identity, and that identity is what keeps you there, 81 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: and so t J being the identity. And then as 82 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: an eight year old kid, now you get your name 83 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,359 Speaker 1: calls in the first round of the NFL Draft, you 84 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: walk into the locker room, you see your name on 85 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: the NFL jersey, you got once in a lifetime. Athletes 86 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 1: is like Michael Vick and work done as your teammates. 87 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: I mean these this you're at a different level. You've 88 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 1: ascended through all the clutter from the beginning and the 89 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: trials and tribulations. You figured out how to how to 90 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,679 Speaker 1: take success and manage it and still still be hungry 91 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 1: to excel. And you're here and in that space you 92 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: you're you're playing your idols. You're visiting dream stadiums that 93 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: you've only saw on video games. And you know what 94 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:56,919 Speaker 1: I'm saying, you're using yourself on the video game. You 95 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 1: go to the store and people want your You're the 96 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: bobber Job. You go anywhere, and people just love that 97 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: presence who you are, what you're about. And and they've 98 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: they've they've grown with you. They saw you as a 99 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: college kid or a high school kid, and they've seen 100 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 1: you make mistakes and they've seen you win championships and 101 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: then you get to that pentacle at that pinnacle the top. 102 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: And I mean it's it's a job just like anything else. 103 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: It's a job. You gotta come to work every day. 104 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: And the difference is in this job, this job is 105 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: more passion driven. You gotta love getting hit, you gotta 106 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: love putting in the time, you gotta love everything about it. 107 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 1: And if you love that, then you'll have success. You 108 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 1: can't just show up to your job hated pushing buttons. 109 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 1: You'll get hurt, You'll let your teammates. Now, I mean 110 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: that that's not gonna work. So at the end of 111 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: my my football career, after playing for a few teams, 112 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 1: being traded, getting into the takes up the business and 113 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: and it it just took the love away. That passion 114 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: was gone. And and and that being when that passion left, 115 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: this identity that I created as an eight year old, 116 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: that that just developed into this athlete, I mean, that's 117 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 1: not the same. There's another guy wearing forty five in 118 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: Atlanta now. So that's where it's just you get you 119 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 1: get into that that that I'm this, I'm that you 120 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: go into the world and and then it's well, what 121 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 1: are you? What are you about? What are your rules? 122 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 1: What are your laws? What do you believe in your heart? 123 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: And at the end of my career, man, I was 124 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: questioning all of that. I had no idea and I 125 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: was just going through what normally either made me feel 126 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: good or just going through a a non thinking process 127 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 1: of self identification and nothing that didn't identify with the 128 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: world outside of me. Now the n world and outer world. 129 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 1: There was a conflict. So I had to had to 130 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: do something. Man had to figure out what the next 131 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: step is gonna be, you know. So with that being said, 132 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: what that being said? The next step? First of all, 133 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: you know he was the eighteenth pick in the draft. 134 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: I tell him with him to gloss over like he 135 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: was at the bottom of the first round, eighteenth pick. 136 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: When you anyway, you go top twenty, top ten is 137 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: where you you you you really want to go top fifteen, 138 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: top twenty, you number eighteen pick. Now you went from Michigan, 139 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: Northern Michigan up there. Then you come down to a 140 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: city that's a predominantly strong African American based city, which 141 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: is which is Atlanta. And then but you guys changed 142 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: the African American presence at football games. And why was that? 143 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: You know, the African American community just graphic there. You 144 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: had that done, you have worked down which is stronger community. 145 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: I just brilliantly talented stud Lee eighteenth pick in the draft, 146 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: bruiser coming up. And then you had the fleet of foot, 147 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: the fastest quarterback in the history of the NFL. And 148 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: Michael Vick. Why you guys were like a like a 149 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: like a like rock stars. That's it. I mean I 150 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: think that that's exactly what what it was. And um, 151 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: you know, like you said, being from from up north 152 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: in Michigan and coming down to live in Atlanta, there 153 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: was a culture that I even learned a lot about. Yeah, 154 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: you know, it just it was something that I just 155 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: I didn't have a chance to really experience now one 156 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: was until I started living there. And and the energy, 157 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: the music, the flow's so it's so real and it 158 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: just touches your soul. And I think our game, our 159 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: team emulated the same thing. Whether it was the fast, quick, 160 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: it was the bruising, it was the excitement, it was 161 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: the music, it was the DJs on the sideline. I mean, 162 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: it was everything. And and for for me, that was 163 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: I mean playing in Atlanta that first year, the first 164 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:57,079 Speaker 1: couple of years there, that was the dream as an 165 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: eight year old kid. I mean that we were winning 166 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: game games. I mean it was amazing. And then as 167 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 1: I started to get traded, different cities and different teams 168 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: have different cultures and different makeups and and and that's 169 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 1: where I mean some of the teams you can see 170 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: how there was success, and others you can see how 171 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: there wasn't success. And but being in Atlanta that was. 172 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 1: It was a special time, man of a special place 173 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: in a special time. And the group of guys, the 174 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: team it was, it was awesome. The city was awesome, 175 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: but it still is awesome. They still got major love 176 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: and and the Birds are playing great too. Now. Man, 177 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:39,199 Speaker 1: they know they hurt you. I know they hurt you 178 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, like they heard everybody, man, 179 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: But they got there. You got there. The other thing, 180 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 1: you know, the other things like you you mentioned, you know, 181 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 1: being the eight team pick overall. After after I got 182 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: done playing there, I went through this depression where I 183 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: was questioning even the success I had playing football. And 184 00:09:57,800 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: then you think, like you sit back like you were 185 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: eighteens overall in the whole world, every kid, every person 186 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: in a in a ten or so age range. You 187 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:12,079 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You were eighteen, Like, that's that's 188 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: pretty phenomenal. And and then from there you made a 189 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: team that the thirty thirty two teams in the league 190 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: that everybody wants to play on. And you were able 191 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: to do that for seven years. I mean, those were 192 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: feats that were phenomenal without getting caught up and I 193 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: didn't make a Super Bowl, Um didn't do this where 194 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: you actually had the chance to do what you did 195 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: and you loved for a long time. So that's something 196 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: that that got clouded to during the process. So that 197 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: was that was that was the point where you're trying 198 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: to find your identity when you left. Yeah, and so 199 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: what I do and what you what you do? What 200 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: you did and what you do? Now? Okay, do you 201 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 1: have value or why would anybody want to recognize you 202 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: for anything other than carrying a football? So I know 203 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:55,839 Speaker 1: and the biders say that you wanted to build your 204 00:10:55,880 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: brand under Todd and not t J Why yes? So, um, 205 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: during this during when when football season, when football ended, 206 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: I was doing a lot of questions in life and 207 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: going through in and out of dark spaces, highs, lows, 208 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: and um, I found myself in a very very low 209 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: place that didn't resonate with with who I was raised 210 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: to be in and what it was about. And and 211 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: in that moment, that's when I really jumped into religion, 212 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: really jumped into the church. And that's all I knew 213 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: from from here, my parents, my family. If mom or dad, 214 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: brother and sister can't be there, pray and answers will happen. 215 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: And so doing that, it shook my soul man and 216 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: I ended up leading myself. It led me to a 217 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 1: forty day fast at just water. So I went forty 218 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: days and forty nights, about seventy pounds eighty pounds. So 219 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: we ended up happening. I I the two and fifty 220 00:11:56,760 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: pounds football player Big Beard, ended up it than ninety pounds. 221 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 1: And Beard's gone looks nothing like, nothing like. I couldn't. 222 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: And so I started going into a lot of familiar 223 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: places that I normally would just stroll in and get 224 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: that attention, and people didn't even sliding. You were sliding 225 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: me I was going to and in clubs or something, 226 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 1: I'd get stopped in normal places where I would just 227 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 1: walk right in and hold on, you can't get in here. 228 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:28,439 Speaker 1: And I would be like, hold what They'd be like, Oh, 229 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: I ain't know that was you. I ain't know that 230 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:33,719 Speaker 1: was you. Man, you So you lost the person. You 231 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: lost the person, your lost the identity, you see what 232 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: I'm saying. And so what that made me question things 233 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 1: as far as like, so all my life have my 234 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: friends been hanging out with me just to get in clubs? 235 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: Because they'd be at the front door. I said I'll 236 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: be there in an hour or two hours, and they 237 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 1: say they don't wait. Just started it started just questioning 238 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: every relationship that I ever had, and and and in 239 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: those moments it was like, man, they just loved to 240 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:00,599 Speaker 1: and what t J could provide and TJ this and 241 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: t AT that. They're I'm thinking, Okay, Todd is a 242 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: name I never. I'm still me, but that's the name 243 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: might never you know, lived and learned and not after 244 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 1: this fast my habits changed where I was going change 245 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: the identity change? But I need a name, you see 246 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 1: what I You gotta with a name, you know. And 247 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: so it was a rebirth and it was my new 248 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: it was me. Now let's see who Todd Ducket is 249 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 1: gonna be in this world. So that's where the name started. 250 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: And from there, I mean I I literally had to. 251 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: I zoned out on anything involved in football, anything involved 252 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 1: in the name TJ. Because I'm creating a new idea. 253 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: I'm creating a new space, and in this space, as 254 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: an adult, as a conscious adult, I can determine what 255 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 1: that's going to be. And so doing that, Man, it 256 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 1: was cheap. No, it's Todd. This is who you're talking. 257 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:50,559 Speaker 1: So you're not gonna get the same conversation that you 258 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 1: would have had before. Todd. Hold hold that thought. We're 259 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: gonna be back because of the backside. We're gonna hear 260 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 1: about the business, being in business with your brother and 261 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: the printing team. I'm gonna fall with the printing team, 262 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 1: the Prince and King. Money making conversation coming right back. Hi, 263 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: this ra Sean McDonald. You're listening to money making conversation 264 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: on the phone. One of the eighteen pick in the 265 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: NFL draft running back superstar has made the transition to 266 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 1: be a business man entrepreneur Todd Jeffrey Duckett uh during 267 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: a professional game for the whole first part of our 268 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: interviews about t J. Now, we're gonna do the whole 269 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: part about that transitioning and how he lost seventy pounds 270 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: people don't recognize. And it was a really a really 271 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: a strong uh point of uh you change for him? 272 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: Are they? Who am I? And where do you about 273 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: go forward? And so when we talk about that the 274 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: business aspect, you you know, God played the guard played 275 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: a major role in that transition. Help us with that 276 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: and uh and I know that you know, it's about faith, 277 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: it's about transition, it's about being able to motivate yourself 278 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: and tell us about that. Yeah, yeah, so all that 279 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: uh save motivations. But again back to my brother and 280 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: the people put in your life. My brother he played 281 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: four years in the league as well, but he absolutely 282 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: made that transition. He came back to Lansing and started 283 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: working as a on the on the factory floor, and 284 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: he worked there for a few years and worked his 285 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: way up to become a buyer at the company, worked 286 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: his way all the way out to start his own 287 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: distribution company and selling to that company that started him 288 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 1: and kind of kept it growing. So as I'm playing, 289 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: I'm keeping my eye on this, I'm seeing this um 290 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: and in the meantime, I'm also investing in the company. 291 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. I'm not there physically, I'm just 292 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: there financially. Um. And so when the when the game ended, 293 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: the vision was shoe walk off the ceiling in the 294 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: very next moment, walk into the business world and got 295 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: a company and everything's rolling. So I did that, but 296 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: the depression set in because that was a whole I 297 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: didn't have any skills. I didn't know how to meeting, 298 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: how to conduct myself. As far as the terminology, I 299 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: didn't know what what what they were talking about. And 300 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: so my ego took a shot, started questioning should I 301 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: even have been here? Should still be playing football? Because 302 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: I know that people are and we're selling toilet paper, 303 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: you know, Chanctorial Distributions, Cleanup Facilities management company. So I'm 304 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: going in and I'm gonna ask cold call and asking 305 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: people where they like to buy toilet paper, and they're like, 306 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: ain't you the guy I just got done playing Or 307 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: I'm like yeah, and then and not only that, but 308 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: then they're like, oh that's funny, nice job, and then no, 309 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: we already have a supplier, and I'm like, now, yeah, 310 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: well everything used to be good, but but we started 311 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: talking about the money in the business. Y'all don't want 312 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: to shake my hand now, So that really took I 313 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: took a hit there, and it took me even deeper 314 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: into uh, just that dark space. And so I ended 315 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: up going back to Michigan State and lower and the 316 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: whole class that I took was a class that we 317 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: had to create a business. And I'm big into volunteering, 318 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 1: giving and serving. I'm heavy in the community and UM, 319 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: I also wanted to get into clothing getting fashion. So 320 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: our group we ended up creating a T shirt printing 321 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 1: company that um we had to we uh we were 322 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 1: making shirts for mainly nonprofits at a super discounted rate, 323 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: UM and which. But it gave me a chance to 324 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: start from the beginning of how to create a business plan, 325 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: how to read a resume, write a resume. We had 326 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 1: to do all those things, so I was able to 327 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 1: then at least get some groundworking and have an understanding 328 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: of the fundamentals of the business. So took this other 329 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: business and not as I'm growing this T shirt business. 330 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 1: It was called Simple Team the beginning. As I'm growing 331 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 1: this T shirt business, I'm getting all the initial bumps 332 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 1: and bruises as of a first initial business owner. I'm 333 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 1: hitting them all hitting. I mean, that's just they're hard. 334 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 1: But again, luckily I had this brother who had hit 335 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 1: them before ten years earlier, so he's able to walk 336 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: me through the steps. Now, a lot of people don't 337 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,679 Speaker 1: know or have entrepreneurs and their family are close that 338 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: will really share the deal, just like going to a 339 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 1: football camp or having a coach that will take you 340 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: through a sport. So so having him there guided me 341 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 1: through the these obstacles I could I could actually see 342 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: how you practice, and then it carries over into a 343 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 1: game or a business deal. So I started switching my 344 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,679 Speaker 1: transition from football terminology and just putting it into the 345 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 1: business world. And this became the same competition, became the 346 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 1: same challenges. I just now started to have that passion 347 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 1: and that drive to do something. So from there I 348 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 1: can see that you can grow your business by reaching 349 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:26,919 Speaker 1: out to others and doing certain things. And then you 350 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: have to learn your learn your quick books, and you 351 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 1: have to learn how to financially make money, not just 352 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 1: actually get it, but make it, and then you can 353 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: actually work in the community. So started a nonprofit after that, 354 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 1: and and and the world just opened up. Man just 355 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 1: opened up with potential that we all could do if 356 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: you're willing to focus for your season and fight for 357 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 1: that championship and build a strong team. And the entrepreneurial 358 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 1: world became identical to how it was in the football world. 359 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,479 Speaker 1: You start in your backyard, you're the best kid at 360 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 1: eight years old, and then as you were sinning, you 361 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: might be the best in the city or the neighborhood. 362 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 1: And same thing with business. You might be the best 363 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: in your small little community, and then you reach out 364 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:07,880 Speaker 1: to a couple of other cities, and then you rise 365 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 1: into the into the whole entire state. So the evolution 366 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: of Simple t the printing company ended up becoming the 367 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 1: printing king because now we actually do more than just 368 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 1: shirts and clothing. We do signs, we do mirrors, we 369 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: have expanded stickers. Had had to evolve, had to be 370 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:30,439 Speaker 1: the simple team. Couldn't we ain't simple teas no more, 371 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 1: you don't do that. Yeah, it's something that really dripped 372 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: me out when you said you co found the Black 373 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:44,400 Speaker 1: Success Network. Yes, yes, so, um a group of us 374 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: are myself another another. Just like you said with the 375 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,880 Speaker 1: draft pick, you know, he just kind of glossed over 376 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 1: like it's no big deal because I just see because 377 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: you know, people have asked me to join the Black 378 00:19:56,040 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: success now, ducky, I gotta go. I gotta join that. Yes, 379 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: yes man. So a group of us, we UH started 380 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 1: capturing videos of successful African Americans and they're telling their 381 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 1: stories and we didn't have we didn't have enough of 382 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 1: us our stories being told and documented and saved. And 383 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 1: by telling these stories, these aren't out there. There's some 384 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: athletic stories, but these are careers, different careers, journeys, so 385 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 1: you're able to hear different careers and how they started 386 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: at where they started, in the ride they had to 387 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 1: go through. You've got different time frames, different generations for 388 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 1: the culture tone is different, but there's a lot of 389 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: similar undertones and the conversations. And this has led us 390 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 1: to now creating our career training camp where all the 391 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 1: things I just mentioned that I didn't understand about business, 392 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: I didn't understand about the workplace, where now teaching those 393 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: we're teaching the soft skills. We're teaching how to do resumes, 394 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 1: were teaching how to present yourself not just once you 395 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 1: get to the job, but how do you get through 396 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 1: the job. Can call and say you're gonna be late. 397 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,199 Speaker 1: You have to do these things so uh that the 398 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: goal is to just keep educating, inspiring and telling our 399 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 1: stories to keep influence our people to strive for success. 400 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 1: Uh no, no different than the show. This show you 401 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 1: got us all right now trying to follow your footsteps 402 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 1: and keep keep the path, keep the path hot, because 403 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,880 Speaker 1: it's happening. It's happening, and we just gotta keep doing 404 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 1: it and keep doing it together. I'm just telling you 405 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: can talk now. You're a natural talker and a natural 406 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,360 Speaker 1: motivating I know you. You must be doing a lot 407 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 1: of good speaking opportunities and share wealth out there, tell 408 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: people how they can get in touch with you. Yes, yeah, 409 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: um my straight uh info at Ducket Enterprise dot com. 410 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: Um it's t J. Duckett dot com. Um as well 411 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: and my law on Facebook. I'm on uh Instagram. But yeah, 412 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 1: I do do a lot of traveling and sharing this 413 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 1: story and it resonates well with people who are are 414 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 1: not just athletes, people who have a big goal that 415 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 1: they want to achieve, but also people who have achieved 416 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 1: their big goal, their life goal. What's next? What do 417 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 1: you do next? What's the next step? And and just 418 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 1: like a car, you've got to rechange the oil. We 419 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,640 Speaker 1: got to rechange your oil. We have to figure out 420 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,439 Speaker 1: what we're about and either re add new of the 421 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:23,479 Speaker 1: same same, the same mid grade oil that we live on, 422 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: or before we go I'll be I want to definitely 423 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: get out the New World Flood the mission, community and 424 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: council research campaign that you've got together, because you know, 425 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: we can talk about your football group, we can talk 426 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 1: about you as an entrepreneur, but it was what you're 427 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: doing in the community that's even more uplifting. Expound on 428 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: that and the reason is there, Yes, sir, it's a 429 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: New World flood, flood in the world through given and service, 430 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: a single rang drop at a time. The name comes 431 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 1: from New World that went from Old World Sports Center 432 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 1: ESPN football to New World opening the paper and the 433 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: local section in your in the paper, what's going on locally? 434 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 1: What how can you be involved in the flood? Comes 435 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: back to the forty days forty nights of my own 436 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,439 Speaker 1: fast but also in most cultures there's a flood and 437 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: after the flood came, it washed away the old and 438 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: there was a fresh renew birth. And when our organization 439 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: comes in volunteers with you, comes and inspires comes in 440 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: and does things with you. Whatever is placed you in. 441 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,199 Speaker 1: When we leave you, you will have fresh new growth 442 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 1: if you have a heart that's willing. And right now 443 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 1: we've actually just bought a community center and Landing just 444 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: bought a building in Lanting, Michigan that we're turning into 445 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 1: renovating into a community center to create a home for 446 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 1: all the great programs that we do in a base 447 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 1: to radiate that that energy and lancing. So this is 448 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 1: this is, this is the passion, This is that w 449 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 1: NFL for me. You're preaching that, you're preaching that californzoo, califorzoo. 450 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 1: Love it, love it well, you know thinks the great 451 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: thing about it. That's why you're absolutely right. That's why 452 00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: I created this show, Money Making Conversation so people can 453 00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 1: hear these stories and also hear the background and the 454 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,439 Speaker 1: secrets to success. And you wouldn't tell people. Look, I 455 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 1: went to a place that I wasn't happy, but it 456 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 1: motivated me to change physically, mentally and spiritually. And these 457 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,360 Speaker 1: changes make me who I am today. Not so much 458 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: that I can't forget my past, but also the past 459 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: was just a foundation and your There are people called 460 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: mentors your biggest mentor just happened to be your oldest brother. 461 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,399 Speaker 1: As an entrepreneur, findal relationship that you can believe in. 462 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, find a relationship that that you can 463 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 1: depend on because you cannot be successful by yourself. Mr Duckett, 464 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: I want to thank you for coming on my show. 465 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:42,400 Speaker 1: I hope we're friends. Man, we're friends. DJ come off 466 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 1: that last see Michigan State, Calamazoo. 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