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Speaker 1: an incredible guest here, the Big Cat, Leonard Williams. How

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Speaker 2: I'm feeling great great.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate that defense has been rolling lately since the

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Speaker 3: bye week. Team has been on a good high. We

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Speaker 3: but you know, I feel like the team in general

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Speaker 3: still got everything ahead of us.

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Speaker 2: No question, you got everything ahead of you.

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Speaker 1: I mean, because that was a weird game, and it

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Speaker 1: seemed like y'all had answers for everything, and you personally,

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Speaker 1: every god damn third and fourth down when they trying

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Speaker 2: One time, it looked like they just parted for you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Block him, Yeah. I mean, obviously I'm gonna take

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Speaker 1: that lay up. But I also think Mike just called

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Speaker 3: I got in the backfield. I didn't want to shoot

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Speaker 3: it was it was a great call.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, to talk about that because obviously, you know you've

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Speaker 1: then you get a new coaching staff and it's much different.

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Speaker 2: I think, Well, correct me if I'm wrong.

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Speaker 1: It's it seems like a much different scheme than you've

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Speaker 3: Yeah, my opinion, defensive coordinators that have like utilized me

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Speaker 3: That's like I could just see that hunger and like

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Speaker 1: Last year, you were the first player to play eighteen

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Speaker 2: You got no bye week. Did you feel it?

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Speaker 1: I want no part, but but I finally got a

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Speaker 3: I played it with some really good guys throughout my career.

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Speaker 1: But it's like these kids are sitting there like they transfer.

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Speaker 2: Like sometimes, but.

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Speaker 1: The kid from SC specifically the Bear Alexander kid, Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: You can't state, can't stay still, not loyal, no loyalty

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Speaker 1: and no no ability to overcome and and just like

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Speaker 3: going around, You're not going through the problem exactly.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know how you fix that, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean. The NCAA could have done it when

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Speaker 1: They should have They should have just put a salary

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Speaker 2: But yeah, that's not two cents. Sorry, we digrest.

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Speaker 4: Draftking Sportsbook and the season of giving. We're being gifted

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Speaker 1: So I want to talk about your time in New

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Speaker 3: You know, me and Gino and and all my interviews

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Speaker 2: So you know, it felt good going back playing the.

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Speaker 1: I mean, a ninety two yard pick six, the longest

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess because like my frame looks a little

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Speaker 1: I mean, you've been around football enough, you know what

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Speaker 1: But talk to me about your draft day experience because clearly,

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Speaker 2: You know, you were going top five and I was

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean my draft day was in Chicago, which

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Speaker 3: So obviously, you know, really happy exciting day for me.

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Speaker 3: just say, hey, like we see it as you know,

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Speaker 2: It's such a different city, you know. I can imagine

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Speaker 1: It's such a big city, so much to do, so

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Speaker 3: You know how I was back then. Man, back then,

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Speaker 1: That's crazy. And then you come to Seattle. Seattle is

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Speaker 2: I'm like, this is different. It's totally different. I mean, passionate,

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Speaker 2: and I don't think people understand. So you experience it.

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Speaker 1: But that's a really cool experience and a cool story

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Speaker 1: because we used to have that all the time, especially

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Speaker 1: you playing like an All Pro? How much would it

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Speaker 2: I mean, it would mean the world to me, honestly.

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Speaker 3: You know, I've been in the sleep for ten years,

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Speaker 3: you've been there before where you know, guys start to

436
00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:55,240
Speaker 3: get a little comfortable, you start not doing the little things.

437
00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,879
Speaker 3: Is as fine tuned as you were when you were

438
00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,360
Speaker 3: losing and knew what was on the line and things

439
00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:04,439
Speaker 3: like that. So I think this loss, you know, definitely

440
00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,560
Speaker 3: put a bad taste in my mouth. And we're about

441
00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,879
Speaker 3: to be home again this week, and I think coming

442
00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,879
Speaker 3: off of that loss is definitely gonna make us, you know,

443
00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,679
Speaker 3: locked back in and you know, talal in on the

444
00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:16,359
Speaker 3: details again.

445
00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,520
Speaker 2: So how long do you want to play? Man? I

446
00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:20,520
Speaker 2: think I want to play as.

447
00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,919
Speaker 3: Long as I'm able to keep being a factor in

448
00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,240
Speaker 3: this league, and then I'm gonna try to keep playing.

449
00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,640
Speaker 3: To be honest, I think when I was young, I said, hey,

450
00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,880
Speaker 3: when I get to year ten, I'm gonna retire.

451
00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:34,000
Speaker 2: You know, I was young.

452
00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,359
Speaker 1: I thought, you know, ten years was a great career,

453
00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:37,960
Speaker 1: Like you know, I didn't know how fast it was

454
00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:39,720
Speaker 1: just gonna go like that, you know what I mean.

455
00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,239
Speaker 1: It went by so fast, and I feel like now

456
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Speaker 1: I'm still playing, you know, some of my best ball,

457
00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,280
Speaker 1: to be honest, So I feel like I still got

458
00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:48,639
Speaker 1: a few good years under my belt.

459
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Speaker 2: I think so too. I think so too. I think

460
00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:52,280
Speaker 2: that's gonna be cool.

461
00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,600
Speaker 1: And you say so much when I when I was

462
00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:56,040
Speaker 1: first getting into the league, I was like, man, I

463
00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,040
Speaker 1: just want to get past the three years three games.

464
00:20:58,040 --> 00:20:58,200
Speaker 2: Man.

465
00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,320
Speaker 1: I feel like if I go for I'm pretty I

466
00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:01,680
Speaker 1: feelt pretty good about myself.

467
00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:02,080
Speaker 2: Like I didn't.

468
00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,199
Speaker 1: I went past the average, and then I got to

469
00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,919
Speaker 1: year like nine. It's like in the Super Bowls, like

470
00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,920
Speaker 1: I think I could do a couple of more. I

471
00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:11,800
Speaker 1: think I think I got a couple more in me.

472
00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:13,840
Speaker 1: I think I got this game pretty well figured out.

473
00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:17,560
Speaker 3: You get to that point, yeah, yeah, And it's so

474
00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,160
Speaker 3: hard because you take your point so when you're older

475
00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,000
Speaker 3: where you almost just take it a year by year.

476
00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:23,320
Speaker 3: At this point, you know what I mean, It's just

477
00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,480
Speaker 3: like as long as a year feel feeling good to

478
00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:25,960
Speaker 3: got it.

479
00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:27,480
Speaker 2: You're just all right. Maybe I got a year or

480
00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,720
Speaker 2: two more left than me, you know what I mean. Yeah,

481
00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:30,240
Speaker 2: you take it.

482
00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:33,119
Speaker 1: Year by year, and you're so like you you have

483
00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,240
Speaker 1: such less wasted movement now, you know what I mean,

484
00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,240
Speaker 1: Like you're not wasting I'm not wasting time, I'm not

485
00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:40,800
Speaker 1: wasting steps. I'm not like doing unnecessary stuff. You know,

486
00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:42,080
Speaker 1: I know how to take care of my body. I

487
00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,800
Speaker 1: got my routine together, I got my off season routine together.

488
00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,520
Speaker 1: Like I know what's going on. And sometimes it's hard

489
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,560
Speaker 1: to explain it to a young guy until they experience it.

490
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,480
Speaker 1: You're like, hey, you might not want to do that.

491
00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:52,960
Speaker 1: You might not want to do that, but sometimes you

492
00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:54,520
Speaker 1: got to go out there and bump your head to

493
00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,239
Speaker 1: be like, oh okay, maybe look I told you. I

494
00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,040
Speaker 1: told you you might not want to do that, like

495
00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,119
Speaker 1: I was from experience.

496
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:02,560
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly.

497
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Speaker 3: I mean I remember when I was younger, I was

498
00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,040
Speaker 3: going out all the time, like you said, I was

499
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,800
Speaker 3: in big New York City. I had that, you know,

500
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:10,639
Speaker 3: I wasn't taking care of my body as well and

501
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,240
Speaker 3: things like that, and and you know, like you said,

502
00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,639
Speaker 3: it's like being older now, it's like you understand the

503
00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:17,840
Speaker 3: game a little bit more. You're not out there just

504
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:21,520
Speaker 3: like wasting energy. And I also, I've been talking about

505
00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 3: joking lately that I just have like grown man strength

506
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,200
Speaker 3: too now. So it's like once I reached a certain

507
00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,080
Speaker 3: once I reached a certain age, it's like now I'm like, okay,

508
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,360
Speaker 3: if I'm getting one on one block, I know I'm

509
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:32,240
Speaker 3: locked this guy out.

510
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Speaker 2: You know what I mean? That obviously plays a difference,

511
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:37,440
Speaker 2: no question, no question.

512
00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:39,159
Speaker 1: You I don't know if you got kids yet, but

513
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,040
Speaker 1: when you as soon as you have kids, that that

514
00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:42,760
Speaker 1: comes that day.

515
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:46,240
Speaker 2: Now you got something to play for it. That's what

516
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:46,680
Speaker 2: it is.

517
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 1: I started strong arm long arm, and people at the

518
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:50,960
Speaker 1: course class said, look at this, where.

519
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 2: Did this come from? What you know about the long arm?

520
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:53,199
Speaker 1: Bro?

521
00:22:54,000 --> 00:23:01,360
Speaker 2: I know something? You blister times every down here off

522
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 2: the edge the arm over. It's crazy.

523
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,879
Speaker 1: They never let me pled stop. You got any questions

524
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 1: for me before I let you go? Man, because I

525
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,400
Speaker 1: noticed it your off day and you you, I mean,

526
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 1: you got to go get your time. And I appreciate

527
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,919
Speaker 1: you you sharing some moments with me, but I know

528
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 1: you gotta gotta go take care of yourself.

529
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I appreciate that.

530
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 3: I mean, I didn't expect you to ask me if

531
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,200
Speaker 3: I had any questions, to be honest, but uh, you know,

532
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 3: I definitely hope we can link up sometime and you know,

533
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,879
Speaker 3: chat and just keep talking ball. And I want to

534
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 3: be an all pro one day, and I want to

535
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,920
Speaker 3: continue to be an all pro. So I think just

536
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 3: seeing how you manage being that level this year in

537
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:43,879
Speaker 3: you're out like back to back, you know.

538
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 2: What I mean, we could definitely chat that out, you know.

539
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll pull up to that to the facility

540
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 1: and we can we can have coffee and moel office

541
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 1: and and chop it up and talk to them ball.

542
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,359
Speaker 2: But it's a lot of it is just grind it man. Like,

543
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 2: it's it's staying in your routine.

544
00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:58,879
Speaker 1: It's like like everything you're saying right now and what

545
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,639
Speaker 1: you're talking about like playing free and like letting me

546
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:05,200
Speaker 1: go and trusting, trusting the tape, your study, trusting your teammates.

547
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,640
Speaker 1: Like for us, it was it was like the standard

548
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 1: was so high for us that we'd be practicing so

549
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:16,440
Speaker 1: damn hard every damn day that you go to games

550
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 1: and be like it's like a sigh of relief out here.

551
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 2: Y'all boys, y'all boys don't know the tempo we up

552
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 2: by twenty five. I love I love that. Man.

553
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 3: Jay talks a lot about that too, actually because he

554
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 3: played with y'all, you know what I mean. So he

555
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 3: talked about how different y'all were in practice. That's the

556
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,159
Speaker 3: main thing he talks about. He doesn't talk about game that.

557
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:38,920
Speaker 3: He's just like, man, the way these guys practice was

558
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,920
Speaker 3: like on another level, you know, because.

559
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,920
Speaker 1: We had like, like imagine the annoying guy in practice

560
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,959
Speaker 1: that goes way too hard and walk through we had

561
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 1: like twenty five of them, like about the whole defense.

562
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,880
Speaker 1: So so you're sitting there and you're like, hey, y'all

563
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,199
Speaker 1: you I mean, y'all putting clicks on for walkthroughs.

564
00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,680
Speaker 2: Y'all like rolling all the time.

565
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 1: And it's like at that point, Pete has to just

566
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 1: say like, hey, either you don't want us on the field,

567
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 1: or don't do the walk through because you know what

568
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 1: tempo we're going to be at and you know what

569
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 1: it's going to be asked and what we're going to

570
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 1: be doing. So if you don't want that, don't put

571
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 1: us out there. Put the scout team out there and

572
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,199
Speaker 1: let it go how it's going to go. But if

573
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 1: you put us out there, you getting full speed tempo,

574
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:20,400
Speaker 1: and you're getting aggression.

575
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,679
Speaker 2: All the time, in aggression, in aggression, because somebody might

576
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 2: get hurt.

577
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 1: That's why we kept losing draft picks and stuff because

578
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 1: we'd go to OTA's and you know, they tell us

579
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:31,679
Speaker 1: not to break up passes and stuff.

580
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 2: But Pete, you know, it would show one on ones

581
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:36,160
Speaker 2: every single.

582
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 1: Day, and he'd show one on ones and he showed

583
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:39,920
Speaker 1: the corners losing and it's like, bro, I could have

584
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 1: better that, I could have picked that, But you'll tell

585
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 1: me not to go for the ball. All right, That's

586
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 1: the last we're gonna ever do that. So now we're

587
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,719
Speaker 1: going for the ball every time. Kick me out the practice.

588
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 1: But man, it's until our own hands.

589
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how we was. And then if we lose

590
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:56,360
Speaker 2: draft picks and all this other shit.

591
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 1: But now you know not don't show one on ones

592
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 1: if you don't want us going out there and playing

593
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 1: as hard as we can, because don't try to get

594
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 1: these dudes no fake confidence.

595
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 2: We all we ain't like that.

596
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,399
Speaker 1: I mean, we we all competitive out here. Man, we

597
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 1: are real dogs. But I appreciate you, brother, I'll let

598
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,119
Speaker 1: you go. Let's I'm gonna hit you, give you my

599
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 1: number once we get off the record, and we could

600
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 1: figure out when you free and I can pull up

601
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 1: and and have some coffee and.

602
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:24,639
Speaker 2: Mo's office all right for sure. Thank you man, Appreciate you, sir.

603
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 2: Appreciate you.

604
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 1: The volume