WEBVTT - Scott Hall/Big E

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition

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<v Speaker 1>of the Wrestling Observer Daily podcast on the eight Side Network.

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<v Speaker 1>Read Let's get it all. How's going to everybody? Brian

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<v Speaker 1>Alvarez here on or Wrestling Observer Live. We are here

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<v Speaker 1>every day Monday through Friday, New Pacific three sturn Sunday

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<v Speaker 1>three Pacific six Eastern Monday here on the show. You

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<v Speaker 1>know that means we'll talk about Ron everything after a while.

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<v Speaker 1>But obviously we've got some very big stories from this

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<v Speaker 1>past weekend and a lot of news that is not

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<v Speaker 1>good news. Scott Hall will be taken off life support

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<v Speaker 1>once his family is in place, Kevin Nash wrote on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>Life support will be removed for Scott Hall, who suffered

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<v Speaker 1>three heart attacks on Saturday following complications from the hip surgery.

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<v Speaker 1>Scott's on life support. Nash wrote, once his family is

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<v Speaker 1>in place, they will discontinue support. I'm gonna lose the

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<v Speaker 1>one person on this planet I've spent more of my

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<v Speaker 1>life with than anybody else. My heart is broken and

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<v Speaker 1>I am so he said. I love Scott with all

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<v Speaker 1>my heart and now I have to prepare my for

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<v Speaker 1>a life without him. In the present. I have been

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<v Speaker 1>blessed to have a friend that took me at face

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<v Speaker 1>value and I him. Hall has been in the hospital

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<v Speaker 1>since March one after suffering a broken hip that required surgery.

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<v Speaker 1>Complications started when a blood clot became loose. Obviously, Hall

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<v Speaker 1>is best known for his running w w E s

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<v Speaker 1>raised Ramon later in w c W as a founding

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<v Speaker 1>member of the n w OH four time w W

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<v Speaker 1>in are Kindell champion, seven time at tag team champion

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<v Speaker 1>in w CW, etcetera, etcetera. So we can talk about

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<v Speaker 1>Scott Hall here on the show today not looking good

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<v Speaker 1>at this moment. Also and what it's bad news. But

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, as far as like bad news goes, it's

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<v Speaker 1>about the best. The outcome is about as best as

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<v Speaker 1>you can hope for such bad news. Biggie was on

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<v Speaker 1>SmackDown Friday. He was given an overhead belly to belly

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<v Speaker 1>and landed on his head and broke his neck. He

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<v Speaker 1>broke his C one and his C six. Anything about

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<v Speaker 1>broken necks, your ce one vertebrae. A lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>that break that one, that's the end of them. They

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<v Speaker 1>either are paralyzes for life or dead. Somehow he broke

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<v Speaker 1>his C one and C six won't even need surgery.

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<v Speaker 1>We can talk about more after the break Wrestling Observer

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<v Speaker 1>Live than thank you back in the show, right, albur

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<v Speaker 1>is here, Wrestling Observer Alive. Mike Simper BV isn't here.

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<v Speaker 1>I just realized he's not here today. I'll find out

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on. You're a moment. In fact, let's do

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<v Speaker 1>it here in the year, because you know that's what

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<v Speaker 1>we do on this show, is find out what's going on.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess is he's asleep? All right, let's get into

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<v Speaker 1>the news here. Obviously we talked about Scott Hall and Biggie.

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<v Speaker 1>Is the two top stories. Scott Hall is on life support, which,

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<v Speaker 1>according to Kevin Nash, will be he will be removed

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<v Speaker 1>from life support when his family is in place. So

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<v Speaker 1>that is the latest on Scott Hall. And as noted,

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<v Speaker 1>Biggie suffered a broken neck on SmackDown and uh yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I said he broke his C one and C six.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's semantics. I guess the C one and C

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<v Speaker 1>six were fractured, but the doctor said his neck was broken,

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<v Speaker 1>so anyway, not good. But what is good is that

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<v Speaker 1>he will not need surgery, and presumably I mean, he's

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<v Speaker 1>got a full use of his arms, legs, fingers, digits,

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<v Speaker 1>and hopefully this means that he will be back in

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<v Speaker 1>action sooner rather than later. He even joked pro tip,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're gonna break your neck, do it in Birmingham,

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<v Speaker 1>because of course that's where all of the major surgeries

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<v Speaker 1>are done if you get yourself injured in w w E.

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<v Speaker 1>So um, so that's that we have a question here,

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<v Speaker 1>Uh thoughts, you know, what do you what do you

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<v Speaker 1>think about the whole idea that even took an overhead

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<v Speaker 1>belly to belly on the mats outside on SmackDown. So

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<v Speaker 1>here's the thing to me regarding this move right here,

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<v Speaker 1>the the listen outside it is it is matted. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>the mats on the outside are are you're one and

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<v Speaker 1>a half inch wrestling mats basically. So you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>you ever watch Olympic wrestling, and if you watch freestyle

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<v Speaker 1>Olympic wrestling, you know there's there's dudes to get picked

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<v Speaker 1>up and thrown hard in in Olympic wrestling competition, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're landing on the same mats as the mats you're

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<v Speaker 1>landing on outside. So it's not like you're landing on cement.

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<v Speaker 1>It's obviously different from you know, taking a bump in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of the ring, which is the bounciest in

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<v Speaker 1>the best place to take a bump, but you are

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<v Speaker 1>you are still landing on a padded area. That's number one.

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<v Speaker 1>Number two when they you know, when when you talk,

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<v Speaker 1>they talk about the hardest part of the ring being

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<v Speaker 1>the the ring, apron, etcetera. Yes, in the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>the ring there's a lot of give. There's less give

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<v Speaker 1>on the ring apron, but the the mat that covers

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<v Speaker 1>the ring itself, that extends the padded area that extends

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<v Speaker 1>all the way to the end and usually curves over.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, you take a bump on the the

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<v Speaker 1>apron and it is there is less give, but it

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<v Speaker 1>is just as padded as as anywhere else. So what's

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<v Speaker 1>the point. The point is, if you take a proper

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<v Speaker 1>overhead belly to belly, what I would I like to

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<v Speaker 1>be taking overhead belly to bellies on the matted area

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<v Speaker 1>in the floor. I wouldn't. But you know, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>taking a vertical suplex, your body's going up and down

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<v Speaker 1>this way. It's roughly the same as taking an overhead

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<v Speaker 1>belly to belly on the floor, unless, of course, you

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<v Speaker 1>land on top of your head like Big E did.

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<v Speaker 1>If you watch the injury too, big E, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>if you would have landed like that in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of the ring, he probably would have suffered the exact

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<v Speaker 1>same injury. I mean, that's a that's a two and

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<v Speaker 1>eighty pound guy or whatever, literally falling straight down on

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<v Speaker 1>his head neck. So I'm not sure it would have

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<v Speaker 1>been any better to take that bump inside the ring.

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of

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<v Speaker 1>overhead belly to belly super lexus and they very, very

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<v Speaker 1>rarely go wrong. So if the question is what I

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<v Speaker 1>ban that move, I would not ban the overhead belly

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<v Speaker 1>to belly suplex. Would I make sure that the person

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<v Speaker 1>delivering the overhead belly to belly suplex knows exactly how

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<v Speaker 1>to do it? Of course, And you know there's also

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<v Speaker 1>you know this this. If you gonna watch Drew McIntyre

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<v Speaker 1>do an overhead belly to belly suplex, he grabs people

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<v Speaker 1>around the waist, but as he throws, he also takes

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<v Speaker 1>one of his hand and he bumps him over, as

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<v Speaker 1>opposed to just doing the curd angle style or the

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<v Speaker 1>brock Lesson. You just grab him and you go and

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<v Speaker 1>and they flip over. I mean, I prefer the way

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<v Speaker 1>that Drew does it in the sense that most people

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<v Speaker 1>may not even notice it, but you're doing essentially the

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<v Speaker 1>same move, but you're also giving them that little bump

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<v Speaker 1>to help turn them over in case something goes wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>I would prefer if it was done that way, but

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<v Speaker 1>this was it was an accident. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>went wrong. You know, it's not that much harder of

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<v Speaker 1>a bump on the outside than a lot of other

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<v Speaker 1>bumps if done correctly, So it was an It was

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<v Speaker 1>an accident that happened. And if it would have happened

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<v Speaker 1>in the ring, on the ramp, pretty much anywhere. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>a two pound guy landing straight up and down on

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<v Speaker 1>his head like that, it's gonna there's gonna be it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be a poor outcome. So I don't think that

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<v Speaker 1>everybody should be getting all over Ridge Holland. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I I watched it. I mean, I don't even really

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<v Speaker 1>know what went wrong. The guy didn't rotate enough. But

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes when you see a botched move, I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>abundantly clear what went wrong with that botched move, and

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<v Speaker 1>obviously something went wrong here, but it wasn't something where

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<v Speaker 1>when I watched it's like, well, of course the guy

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<v Speaker 1>landed on his head. The whole thing got completely screwed up.

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<v Speaker 1>It clearly got screwed up, but it's not like some

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<v Speaker 1>things where you know, it's very obvious what went wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>why it went wrong, etcetera, etcetera. So thankfully Big he

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<v Speaker 1>appears to be on the road to recovery, hopefully quickly,

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully he can get back in the ring. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't that move, but you know, I was way

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<v Speaker 1>more concerned for years about you know, when Biggie did

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<v Speaker 1>that running topay and just crashed so hard on the

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<v Speaker 1>outside over and over. I thought for sure something bad

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna happen there, but it never did. And uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe when he comes back, maybe avoid stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like that. But hopefully he can come back and do

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<v Speaker 1>everything he did before. I'm glad he's all right, And uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad that. I'm glad it didn't turn out worse

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<v Speaker 1>because watching that bump, like times out of a hundred,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it probably would have ended up much much worse.

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<v Speaker 1>Scott Hall, what can you say about Scott Hall. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously the most notable run of Scott Hall's career was

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<v Speaker 1>when they came in as the Outsiders and uh, you

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<v Speaker 1>know it's been talked about nauseum for years, but the

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<v Speaker 1>Outsiders in World Championship Wrestling, and I don't want I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want people to listen to this and Gobry listen.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not I'm not denigrating Kevin Nash or running down

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin Nash, okay, but what I'm saying is if you

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<v Speaker 1>watched the Outsiders when they first came in, before they

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<v Speaker 1>were linked with Whole Cogan. I don't want to say

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<v Speaker 1>that it was like the Scott Hall Show because it

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<v Speaker 1>took both of them, but holy smokes, a Scott Hall.

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<v Speaker 1>This guy had the charisma of like fifty men. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure that if if it would have been

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, Kevin Nash and uh, if they would

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<v Speaker 1>have chosen Kevin Nash and Lex Luger or Kevin Nash

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<v Speaker 1>and um, you know who else might have jumped over

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<v Speaker 1>that time, Ted d Base whatever, I'm not sure any

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<v Speaker 1>other group it would have been as big as it

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<v Speaker 1>was with Kevin Nash and Scott Hall. Because Scott Hall

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<v Speaker 1>had so much charisma and and he, like I felt,

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<v Speaker 1>was the guy that at the very beginning, held this

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing together, is like a mega superstar type group.

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<v Speaker 1>And then of course once he had a whole COVID,

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<v Speaker 1>it was off to the races and everything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know if Hall gets enough credit for,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, doing as much as he did when this

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<v Speaker 1>when this act first came over from from from w WF.

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<v Speaker 1>So obviously, you know, once once he started to have

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<v Speaker 1>his problems, I mean it was it was a rough road.

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<v Speaker 1>Even at his worst, he still had so much charisma.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he could come out and you know, clearly

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<v Speaker 1>he wasn't in the best state of mind, but he

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<v Speaker 1>could get in the ring and do his hey yo,

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<v Speaker 1>and the people would go absolutely crazy and and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>super charismatic guy. I always thought he was a great worker,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, you know, there were some people that I

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<v Speaker 1>thought that he was. He was a little bit overrated

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<v Speaker 1>as worker. Maybe in some ways he was, but I

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<v Speaker 1>thought that he was great. He was he was smooth,

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<v Speaker 1>he could have good matches, he would never hurt you. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>he connected with the fans. He was he was way

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<v Speaker 1>way better as Scott Hall. In uh in w c

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<v Speaker 1>W than he was his Razor Ramone, and he was

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<v Speaker 1>a big star as Razor Ramone. But I felt that

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<v Speaker 1>he was far more charismatic under his real name doing

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<v Speaker 1>that character than he was is you know, the fake

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<v Speaker 1>whatever he was with Razormon. We could have more about

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<v Speaker 1>Scoll Hall Scott Hall after the break, rusting him Server Live.

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<v Speaker 1>I am, in fact here on the show Hustling Observer

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<v Speaker 1>Live right, Alvarez here, Mike semperviv. I do not know

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<v Speaker 1>where he's at. I guess we will. We'll see he

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<v Speaker 1>shows up here today daylight savings time. I guess is

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<v Speaker 1>that he is a He is asleep right now, so

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<v Speaker 1>UM a couple of other things. We'll we'll talk more

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<v Speaker 1>about Hall and Biggie when we get in the feedback here,

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<v Speaker 1>but raw is tonight, and tonight we're gonna find out

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<v Speaker 1>if Cody is signed or not, because if Cody has signed,

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<v Speaker 1>he's gonna be on the show tonight. I guess it's

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<v Speaker 1>also possible he has signed and they've changed plans, but

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<v Speaker 1>the plans even as of this weekend, we're still Cody

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<v Speaker 1>and seth rawlins. If if Cody signs his deal, So

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<v Speaker 1>if he has signed, he is expected to be on

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<v Speaker 1>the show tonight, and if he has not signed the

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<v Speaker 1>obviously he's not gonna be on the show tonight. And

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<v Speaker 1>if he has not signed yet, then I guess we'll

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<v Speaker 1>find out if they're going to hold off and continue

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<v Speaker 1>the presumption that he will face seth Rawlins, or if

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<v Speaker 1>they will move seth Rawlins onto something else. Because they've

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<v Speaker 1>been doing house shows this weekend and seth Rawlins was

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<v Speaker 1>added to the I guess would be Finn Balor and

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<v Speaker 1>Damien East feud. They've been doing three ways this weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>So presumably if they can't figure out, uh, they can't

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<v Speaker 1>get the Cody deal done, then uh, seth Rollings does

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<v Speaker 1>have a clear path to wrestle Menia everybody. He will

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<v Speaker 1>be involved, most likely in a three way, but we'll

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<v Speaker 1>find out tonight. I Uh, I don't know what's gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 1>I have absolutely no idea. It's like one of those uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know when when people go, oh, you think such

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<v Speaker 1>as that, I have no idea what's gonna happen to

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<v Speaker 1>a W And I have no idea what's gonna happen

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<v Speaker 1>with Cody. Do I think he's gonna be there tonight. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I can't even say one way or

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<v Speaker 1>the other. What I could tell you is that this

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<v Speaker 1>was the place that they were expecting him to debut.

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<v Speaker 1>So debuts the debuts, and if he doesn't, and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>see what happens. Also, this weekend of our shows, who

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<v Speaker 1>should return to action but Becky Lynch. So she'd done

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<v Speaker 1>a house show. I guess it would have been a

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<v Speaker 1>week ago, and she suffered a broken voice box, she said,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, she was not at RAW. Actually she wasn't Raw.

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<v Speaker 1>She was backstage, but she was not on TV. But

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<v Speaker 1>she'd been hospitalized over the weekends. Would have been marked

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<v Speaker 1>sixth and all Intown, Pennsylvania. She suffered the broken voice box,

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<v Speaker 1>and she's in the hospital. She's got the gimmick. She

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<v Speaker 1>shows up at RAW the next day she can't talk.

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<v Speaker 1>And the word we were given was they expect that

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<v Speaker 1>she's going to be back in time for WrestleMania. I thought, Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like it's gonna be pretty quick. Well, lo

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<v Speaker 1>and behold, she was back to an house shows this weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>so she's good to go for WrestleMania. So I presume

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<v Speaker 1>that she will be on the show tonight, but I

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<v Speaker 1>guess anything is possible. We also had w W revealing

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<v Speaker 1>the newest member of this year's w w E Hall

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<v Speaker 1>of Fame class. It was announced via Complex whatever that is,

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<v Speaker 1>and that Charmel will be inducted into the w w

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<v Speaker 1>E Hall of Fame over WrestleMania Week this April. Joins

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<v Speaker 1>the Undertaker and Vader in the twenty two Hall of

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<v Speaker 1>Fame class. I was so happy, she told the Complex.

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<v Speaker 1>After learning she was going into the Hall of Fame,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't even know what to say. It was an unexpected,

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<v Speaker 1>great surprise, a welcome surprise. Somebody asked if she was

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<v Speaker 1>the first w w E Hall of Famer that had

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<v Speaker 1>gotten a negative five star rating, and the answer is no,

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<v Speaker 1>That would go to the Bushwhackers who once faced the

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<v Speaker 1>Iron Chic at Nikolai Volkoff and a tag team match

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<v Speaker 1>at the Heroes of Wrestling, which actually I gave significantly

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<v Speaker 1>less than five stars to Minus five stars would have

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<v Speaker 1>been like praising that particular match, it was so bad.

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<v Speaker 1>And then also on the subject of the Huffman's Nearly

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<v Speaker 1>a month after Booker t backtrack after initially breaking the news,

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<v Speaker 1>rock Cy has reportedly signed a w w E contract

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<v Speaker 1>and will start in n x T pple Inside Report

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<v Speaker 1>of the News on Monday during a mid February appearance

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<v Speaker 1>on Ariel Hellwani's MMA Our but Curtisa, the twenty year

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<v Speaker 1>old had signed a deal, but later tweeted that he

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<v Speaker 1>misspoke because this company is weird and uh, they don't

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<v Speaker 1>want you announcing anything until either they have announced it

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<v Speaker 1>or they have given the news to somebody else to announce,

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<v Speaker 1>where they can announce that somebody else announced it, because

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like you're a bigger deal when somebody else

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<v Speaker 1>is breaking your news, except if it's like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Wrestling Observer, p W Inside or something, then that doesn't count.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, she's been signed for a while, so there

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<v Speaker 1>you go, and I hope she does well in n

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<v Speaker 1>x T, and honestly I expect, oh, here, here he goes,

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<v Speaker 1>she's gonna do well in n x T. Roman rains

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<v Speaker 1>Is All have been added to two stops on w

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<v Speaker 1>w e's upcoming European House show tour. Rain's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>wrestling in London on April, Paris on April. They've got

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<v Speaker 1>a tour from April one through May one. Since their

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<v Speaker 1>usual the usually do a post WrestleMania European tour and

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<v Speaker 1>so uh they've added Roman and Rhonda, which to me

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<v Speaker 1>probably means, you know, we gotta sell some tickets, because

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<v Speaker 1>that's what they normally do in they need to sell

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<v Speaker 1>some tickets. So there you go. We're gonna go to

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<v Speaker 1>some feedback and I may open up the phone lines

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<v Speaker 1>in the next segment if you've got memories and things

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<v Speaker 1>you want to talk about regarding Scott Hall, and we

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<v Speaker 1>can also if you want to talk about the Rampage

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<v Speaker 1>show on Friday night and the SmackDown Show on Friday

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<v Speaker 1>Night as well, which had a very good main event.

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<v Speaker 1>It was weird actually was made evented by um Sammy

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<v Speaker 1>Zane and Ricochet. That was a main event of SmackDown

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<v Speaker 1>Sammy Zane and Ricochet. Although they did end with a

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<v Speaker 1>as I attempt to not sneeze here and I have

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<v Speaker 1>no Mike to cover for me. Ah, they did end

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<v Speaker 1>with a brawl Charlotte Flair and uh Rhonda Rousy. Huh.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't look at the light, that's what they say. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>look at the light. All right. Scott Hall was awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>This person said, I never got to see him. Russell

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<v Speaker 1>alive because his peak was before I was born. But

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<v Speaker 1>looking back at his matches with the guys like Brett

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<v Speaker 1>and Sean, they're amazing and his importance to wrestling history

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<v Speaker 1>is undeniable. Yeah, Like I said, I was a way

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<v Speaker 1>bigger fan of him as Scott Hall than Razor Ramone.

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<v Speaker 1>Those Razor Ramon the vignettes were just so wacky, and

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<v Speaker 1>he ended up doing a good job with the character.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean this is like a classic example of

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we've talked about it a million times. No

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<v Speaker 1>matter how good you are at at playing a character,

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<v Speaker 1>you're still better at being yourself. And uh, and he

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<v Speaker 1>was himself when he was Scott Hall and when he

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<v Speaker 1>was raised Ramoney was was it a fake Cuban? Is

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<v Speaker 1>that what it was? So? You know, but it was,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there was um, you know, he used some

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<v Speaker 1>of the the Razor Ramon mannerisms when he went to

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<v Speaker 1>UH to World Champions pressling when him and Kevin Nash

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<v Speaker 1>jumped over. I mean, there was a lawsuit filed by

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<v Speaker 1>w w E that that w w E was using

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<v Speaker 1>their intellectual property because even though they you know, they

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<v Speaker 1>they called him Scott Hall. I mean, he used the

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<v Speaker 1>line about you know who I am. He had the

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the whole gimmick and everything like that, so

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<v Speaker 1>you know that was but he he he changed, he went,

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<v Speaker 1>he went full Scott Hall there after a while, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was a I thought, a big improvement. This person says,

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<v Speaker 1>it's funny growing up as a wrestling fan, my mom

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<v Speaker 1>and my aunt would occasionally watch with me. My mom

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<v Speaker 1>hated Scott Hall, while my aunt loved him and always

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<v Speaker 1>had such a huge crush on him. One time, I

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<v Speaker 1>free uh freeze framed a picture of him in picture

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<v Speaker 1>and picture tease my aunt with and it accidentally burned

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<v Speaker 1>an imprint in the TV heath that lasted a week.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember back in the day when you have like a

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<v Speaker 1>screen saver or you would uh you know, burn an

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<v Speaker 1>imprint into your cathode ray monitor. Some of youngsters are like,

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<v Speaker 1>what is this guy talking about him? Many Christmas? Regardless

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<v Speaker 1>of this, he says, I still do some of his

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<v Speaker 1>mannerisms in the mirror, like slicking the hair, pumping the

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<v Speaker 1>chest while stomping the floor to show off. The man

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<v Speaker 1>at Chrisma said to have a world without him, and

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<v Speaker 1>glad he sobered up to enjoy the world for his

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<v Speaker 1>last few years. He will be missed dearly. This person

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<v Speaker 1>says Scott really got hey yo over as a catchphrase.

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<v Speaker 1>He was that good rest in power man. He would

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<v Speaker 1>stand out there and he would just build it up

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<v Speaker 1>forever and then he'd uh, oh, here's Mike. Yeah, he

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<v Speaker 1>sent me a text that I cannot. I can't. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what he's talking about, but I'll contact him

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<v Speaker 1>during the break. So, oh, you know what. I know

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<v Speaker 1>where he's at and I can now. Yeah, I forgot

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<v Speaker 1>about this. It's actually my fault. He didn't know show.

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<v Speaker 1>He told me last week he's actually going to see

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<v Speaker 1>the Boogie Woogie Man Jimmy Valiant live. I forgot about that.

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<v Speaker 1>My fault. He didn't sleep in there. You go, Brian

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<v Speaker 1>forgot again. Remember he went to see the Boogie Woogie Man. Alright,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll let him know, all right, Well that's where he's at.

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<v Speaker 1>He's out seeing Jimmy Valiant today. Totally forgot about that,

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<v Speaker 1>all right. And actually somebody notes here, you know, with

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<v Speaker 1>that w w E lawsuit where they they claimed that

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<v Speaker 1>Hall was using too many of the Razor Ramon mannerisms

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<v Speaker 1>when he went to Championship Wrestling UM. His w W

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<v Speaker 1>e w W f Razor Ramone mannerisms remarkably similar to

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<v Speaker 1>the Diamond stud I don't think that was mentioned in

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<v Speaker 1>the lawsuit. Also got here four to five seven eight

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<v Speaker 1>zero seven five six six. By the way, as the

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<v Speaker 1>text message line, this person says, that's about the Bullet Club.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get into those later. Let's just largely do uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Scott halland such here today. Josiah says, I met Scott

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<v Speaker 1>Hall when I was eight. He was a replacement for

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin Nash when Kevin Nash had travel issues. He made

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<v Speaker 1>the show but was late. Maybe he was also visiting

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<v Speaker 1>the Boogie Woogie Man Jimmy Valiant. He shook my hand

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<v Speaker 1>with his hand covering half of my arm and spent

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<v Speaker 1>some time talking to me. He took the time to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to everybody, made sure all the kids felt welcome.

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<v Speaker 1>It was my first ever wrestling show live. It was

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<v Speaker 1>so great and it was a huge part of why

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a fan today. Back in the mall, we'll drop

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<v Speaker 1>the phone numb Wrestling Observer Live. Okay, back in the show,

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Elbarez here, Wrestling Observer Alive. If you want to

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<v Speaker 1>contact us here today, let's talk about some Scott Hall

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<v Speaker 1>seven eight zero seven five six six is the text

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<v Speaker 1>message lines and your text messages there and if you'd

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<v Speaker 1>like to give us a call with your thoughts on

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<v Speaker 1>Scott Hall eight four four nine one three seven seven,

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<v Speaker 1>it's eight four seven. Probably wanna talk a lot about

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<v Speaker 1>Rampage and SmackDown today, But yesterday's Brian and Vinny show

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<v Speaker 1>we reviewed Rampage, so if you want to check that

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<v Speaker 1>out as a subscriber, you can do so. And also

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<v Speaker 1>for our subscribers at Wrestling Observer dot com as well

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<v Speaker 1>as our top tier YouTube subscribers video in for w

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<v Speaker 1>online at dot com. Filthy Tom and I will be

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<v Speaker 1>up at two Pacific five Eastern talking SmackDown and New

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<v Speaker 1>Japan Strong, which was also main evented by Swerv Strickland

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<v Speaker 1>as he faced j White. That'll be coming up later

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<v Speaker 1>on today, so we'll talk about these shows there. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>go to ports Mouth. You're on the air. What's going on? Hey?

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<v Speaker 1>What's up Brandon here? Um? Yeah, you know it's playing

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<v Speaker 1>my first Um you are? I guess I ever saw

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<v Speaker 1>Scott Hall was when him in the n w OH

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<v Speaker 1>went to w WF, when Vince had that whole I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna poison the w WF I bringing an n W

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<v Speaker 1>and so like. So like at that time, I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>Scott Hall, he's hole Cooke in you know, cronies or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>But then, like you know, I never watched w c W,

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<v Speaker 1>but I did go back and watch the Scott Hall

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<v Speaker 1>met with Sean Michael's the ladder match they had. It

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<v Speaker 1>was it was so cool to seeing the match like

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<v Speaker 1>that because it's always different from like ladder match. This

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<v Speaker 1>would be today where people are just like killing themselves

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<v Speaker 1>doing all this crazy stuff. So it, um, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>definitely gonna keep looking at more stuff I can when

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<v Speaker 1>I could see a Scott Hall and so sad to

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<v Speaker 1>hear about the news, but it's good that we have

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<v Speaker 1>the great memories of him. Alright, I want to thank

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<v Speaker 1>you so much for the call. Yeah, that that ladder match.

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<v Speaker 1>I've talked about that match a million times, the WrestleMania

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<v Speaker 1>ten ladder match, Scott Hall and and Sean Michaels, which

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<v Speaker 1>was amazing. Like if you've never if you aren't my age,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're if you're you know, thirty five or younger,

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<v Speaker 1>and you grew up in the days of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the Hard Ease and the Dudley's and Edge and Christian

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<v Speaker 1>and then all of the crazy ladder matches that we

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<v Speaker 1>see nowadays. I mean, you'd watch that match and what

0:27:02.000 --> 0:27:05.400
<v Speaker 1>But what it is is it's a it's a wrestling

0:27:05.440 --> 0:27:09.000
<v Speaker 1>match with a ladder, and they had a great wrestling

0:27:09.000 --> 0:27:13.159
<v Speaker 1>match involving a ladder. It was all about it was

0:27:13.200 --> 0:27:16.080
<v Speaker 1>all about the wrestling, it was all about the selling.

0:27:16.200 --> 0:27:19.600
<v Speaker 1>It was all about the the build it to the

0:27:19.640 --> 0:27:21.840
<v Speaker 1>big spots, and they had some creative spots and everything

0:27:21.880 --> 0:27:24.080
<v Speaker 1>like that. But it is a it is a very

0:27:24.280 --> 0:27:27.080
<v Speaker 1>very different kind of match than you know, what ended

0:27:27.119 --> 0:27:30.760
<v Speaker 1>up being just you know, we're gonna build eighty five contraptions,

0:27:30.920 --> 0:27:33.119
<v Speaker 1>and not to denigrate these matches because many of them

0:27:33.160 --> 0:27:36.000
<v Speaker 1>were great matches, but they're different. You know, the stunt

0:27:36.040 --> 0:27:38.840
<v Speaker 1>show where we're just gonna do as many crazy things

0:27:38.880 --> 0:27:41.840
<v Speaker 1>as we can and we will build to one really

0:27:41.880 --> 0:27:44.080
<v Speaker 1>crazy thing at the end that will be the finish.

0:27:44.440 --> 0:27:48.200
<v Speaker 1>But um, it was a very very cleverly done match.

0:27:48.720 --> 0:27:51.280
<v Speaker 1>And uh in the finish where the ladder gets tipped

0:27:51.320 --> 0:27:54.320
<v Speaker 1>over and Sean crotches the top rope and he gets

0:27:54.320 --> 0:27:56.560
<v Speaker 1>his leg cot and he's dangling upside down so we

0:27:56.600 --> 0:27:58.639
<v Speaker 1>can't even get out to climb the ladder to stop

0:27:58.920 --> 0:28:01.520
<v Speaker 1>Scott Hall. I mean that was a that was a

0:28:01.600 --> 0:28:04.560
<v Speaker 1>great match. And they did the other one too, um,

0:28:05.320 --> 0:28:08.000
<v Speaker 1>which is not as famous, and I didn't think it

0:28:08.040 --> 0:28:11.720
<v Speaker 1>was as good, although some people did. But this person

0:28:11.760 --> 0:28:20.320
<v Speaker 1>here says, uh, let's see Scott Hall. Uh, let's see.

0:28:20.520 --> 0:28:23.040
<v Speaker 1>I've been watching w WF since I don't read all

0:28:23.080 --> 0:28:27.680
<v Speaker 1>these sometimes. I didn't watching in w WF since the eighties.

0:28:27.720 --> 0:28:29.840
<v Speaker 1>I knew of w c W in the mid nineties,

0:28:30.160 --> 0:28:32.159
<v Speaker 1>but just thought that it was a place where guys

0:28:32.200 --> 0:28:34.919
<v Speaker 1>went when w w E did not want them, and

0:28:34.960 --> 0:28:38.120
<v Speaker 1>if w w WE didn't care about them, why should I?

0:28:38.280 --> 0:28:42.680
<v Speaker 1>Until Hall and Nash showed up changed the game and

0:28:42.800 --> 0:28:46.760
<v Speaker 1>made me realize there was so much more good wrestling

0:28:46.840 --> 0:28:50.320
<v Speaker 1>out there. You know, even in I feel there are

0:28:50.360 --> 0:28:52.080
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people out there who don't realize there's

0:28:52.080 --> 0:28:53.760
<v Speaker 1>a good wrestling out there outside of w w E.

0:28:54.840 --> 0:28:58.640
<v Speaker 1>But you know what, there's a lot of it. Let's

0:28:58.840 --> 0:29:05.720
<v Speaker 1>go to Canada. You're on the air. What's going on? Hey,

0:29:05.760 --> 0:29:11.520
<v Speaker 1>how's it going? What's up? I'm just calling from candidate here.

0:29:11.640 --> 0:29:15.200
<v Speaker 1>Just wanted to share a Scott Hall moment. You know

0:29:15.840 --> 0:29:18.720
<v Speaker 1>in the nineties that everyone there's that commercial be like Mike,

0:29:18.840 --> 0:29:22.280
<v Speaker 1>but I wanted to be like Razor, And uh, it's

0:29:22.320 --> 0:29:24.960
<v Speaker 1>just a really sad day right now. And like, remember

0:29:25.040 --> 0:29:27.000
<v Speaker 1>he had a huge heart. Remember when he gave those

0:29:27.080 --> 0:29:29.560
<v Speaker 1>kids they the front metal belt. I had aids on

0:29:30.320 --> 0:29:34.959
<v Speaker 1>Jerry Springer. What a guy like. I know he had

0:29:35.000 --> 0:29:37.400
<v Speaker 1>his issues and whatnot. And like a lot of people,

0:29:37.840 --> 0:29:41.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, really really gonna love him, and a lot

0:29:41.200 --> 0:29:43.440
<v Speaker 1>of people are say what you want, you're gonna love

0:29:43.480 --> 0:29:46.120
<v Speaker 1>him or hate him, like it was really bad backstage apparently,

0:29:46.200 --> 0:29:50.920
<v Speaker 1>but I don't know, man, just a sad day. Well,

0:29:50.960 --> 0:29:52.720
<v Speaker 1>I want to thank you very much for the call.

0:29:52.760 --> 0:29:55.440
<v Speaker 1>And I was thinking about this this earlier as well.

0:29:56.080 --> 0:29:58.560
<v Speaker 1>That you know, Scott Hall had a lot of issues,

0:29:59.200 --> 0:30:01.560
<v Speaker 1>and you know, sometimes when you're in the midst of

0:30:01.560 --> 0:30:03.040
<v Speaker 1>a lot of issues, there can be a lot of

0:30:04.320 --> 0:30:06.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe I don't want to hang around with

0:30:06.280 --> 0:30:10.080
<v Speaker 1>the guy so much. But when he wasn't in the

0:30:10.080 --> 0:30:14.000
<v Speaker 1>midst of having serious issues, everyone said such great things

0:30:14.040 --> 0:30:15.560
<v Speaker 1>about what a great guy he was, what a nice

0:30:15.600 --> 0:30:18.000
<v Speaker 1>guy he was. And you know one of the things

0:30:18.200 --> 0:30:22.400
<v Speaker 1>that you know you could see publicly was I can't

0:30:22.400 --> 0:30:25.800
<v Speaker 1>think of any time I ever heard of of Scott

0:30:25.840 --> 0:30:28.760
<v Speaker 1>Hall like not wanting to put someone over, not wanting

0:30:28.800 --> 0:30:31.600
<v Speaker 1>to help somebody out. He was always wanting to help people.

0:30:32.040 --> 0:30:34.160
<v Speaker 1>And in the nineties, I mean, there were a lot

0:30:34.200 --> 0:30:37.160
<v Speaker 1>of guys that they didn't want to do jobs, especially

0:30:37.200 --> 0:30:41.520
<v Speaker 1>if they were a star. Never heard that about Scott Hall.

0:30:41.760 --> 0:30:43.680
<v Speaker 1>And there were times like I think it was with

0:30:45.160 --> 0:30:49.400
<v Speaker 1>um was it Hector Hector Guards that might have been

0:30:49.400 --> 0:30:52.920
<v Speaker 1>where Hector Guards have pinned, uh, Scott Hall on Nitro.

0:30:53.560 --> 0:30:55.920
<v Speaker 1>And the point of this was they they did this

0:30:55.960 --> 0:31:00.160
<v Speaker 1>every now and then, and uh, you know Kevin Nash

0:31:00.320 --> 0:31:03.880
<v Speaker 1>with with Ray Mysterio and Hull Cogan with Kidman and

0:31:03.920 --> 0:31:07.080
<v Speaker 1>they'd you know, they'd they get pinned, but they weren't

0:31:07.120 --> 0:31:11.040
<v Speaker 1>putting anybody over. And you know, there's a difference between

0:31:11.280 --> 0:31:14.240
<v Speaker 1>letting someone pin you and then putting that person over.

0:31:14.880 --> 0:31:17.440
<v Speaker 1>And you know, the thing with with Hector Garza, I

0:31:17.480 --> 0:31:19.120
<v Speaker 1>mean I think it was like the first time that

0:31:19.160 --> 0:31:22.400
<v Speaker 1>they had one of the big stars pinned by by

0:31:22.440 --> 0:31:24.120
<v Speaker 1>one of the ender carters. I could have this wrong,

0:31:24.120 --> 0:31:27.120
<v Speaker 1>but anyway, the point is, you know, he didn't really

0:31:27.160 --> 0:31:31.000
<v Speaker 1>put over Hector Garza, Okay, but the difference is he

0:31:31.040 --> 0:31:34.640
<v Speaker 1>would have put over Hector Garza and everybody everybody said that.

0:31:34.680 --> 0:31:36.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if there was gonna be an issue where

0:31:36.440 --> 0:31:38.040
<v Speaker 1>you had a bunch of egos in the ring and

0:31:38.080 --> 0:31:40.920
<v Speaker 1>they're all arguing and nobody wanted Holly would have just said,

0:31:40.920 --> 0:31:44.320
<v Speaker 1>I'll do the I'll do the the funny silly job.

0:31:44.520 --> 0:31:46.960
<v Speaker 1>He would have just done it because at the end

0:31:47.000 --> 0:31:48.600
<v Speaker 1>of the day, and this goes back to what a

0:31:48.680 --> 0:31:53.080
<v Speaker 1>charismatic guy he was. When you're a guy and you

0:31:53.120 --> 0:31:55.360
<v Speaker 1>have that kind of chrisma and you have that kind

0:31:55.360 --> 0:31:59.360
<v Speaker 1>of self confidence, you're okay putting people over because you

0:31:59.400 --> 0:32:02.200
<v Speaker 1>know that you can get it back. You know that

0:32:02.320 --> 0:32:05.280
<v Speaker 1>you can get yourself over. You know that down the road.

0:32:06.000 --> 0:32:08.720
<v Speaker 1>Uh no, it actually yeah. He put over Chris Jericho

0:32:08.760 --> 0:32:12.560
<v Speaker 1>as well. So anyway, there were many people in wrestling

0:32:12.640 --> 0:32:14.800
<v Speaker 1>that did not have the level of self confidence that

0:32:14.880 --> 0:32:17.360
<v Speaker 1>Scott Hall did, and they didn't like putting guys over.

0:32:17.840 --> 0:32:21.240
<v Speaker 1>And you know, if you ever watched Rick Flair, Rick

0:32:21.320 --> 0:32:23.960
<v Speaker 1>Flair was a guy who you know it is in

0:32:24.080 --> 0:32:29.920
<v Speaker 1>his personal life he had serious issues with self confidence.

0:32:30.520 --> 0:32:33.600
<v Speaker 1>In the ring, he had no issues with self confidence,

0:32:34.000 --> 0:32:37.960
<v Speaker 1>and so that was the difference. If you're a guy

0:32:38.280 --> 0:32:42.800
<v Speaker 1>who you know, you're not really a great worker, and

0:32:43.560 --> 0:32:46.920
<v Speaker 1>you're not you know, you can have issues or you're

0:32:46.960 --> 0:32:49.120
<v Speaker 1>afraid that that your spot will be taken if you

0:32:49.240 --> 0:32:51.520
<v Speaker 1>if you do a job, if you're a guy who's

0:32:51.560 --> 0:32:54.400
<v Speaker 1>not concerned about losing your spot, not concerned that you

0:32:54.440 --> 0:32:58.240
<v Speaker 1>can get over, not concerned you'll you'll put anybody over.

0:32:58.560 --> 0:33:00.760
<v Speaker 1>And and that was Rick Flair. Hit Flair. It was

0:33:00.800 --> 0:33:03.160
<v Speaker 1>even about putting people over. He would go to a

0:33:03.280 --> 0:33:05.840
<v Speaker 1>town and face the local guy that nobody had ever

0:33:05.880 --> 0:33:08.480
<v Speaker 1>heard of, and he would he would, you know, let

0:33:08.520 --> 0:33:10.680
<v Speaker 1>this guy not necessarily put him over. He wasn't like

0:33:10.680 --> 0:33:12.239
<v Speaker 1>the guys would win the title or anything like that,

0:33:12.320 --> 0:33:14.840
<v Speaker 1>but he would give him everything in that match. And

0:33:15.080 --> 0:33:17.480
<v Speaker 1>Hall was one of those guys who, you know, he

0:33:17.520 --> 0:33:19.480
<v Speaker 1>always wanted to help. He always wanted to help the

0:33:19.520 --> 0:33:22.120
<v Speaker 1>young guys. He didn't have that that I'm not putting

0:33:22.160 --> 0:33:24.720
<v Speaker 1>anyone over ego or anything like that. Things might have

0:33:24.720 --> 0:33:27.680
<v Speaker 1>been different if he was really in the middle of something.

0:33:27.720 --> 0:33:29.880
<v Speaker 1>But you know, in general, when he had his head

0:33:29.920 --> 0:33:32.840
<v Speaker 1>on straight, I mean, everyone always had the nicest things

0:33:32.840 --> 0:33:34.680
<v Speaker 1>to say about him and how he wanted to help people.

0:33:34.920 --> 0:33:39.680
<v Speaker 1>Let's go to Philadelphia. You're on the Air's up. Hello,

0:33:40.120 --> 0:33:44.800
<v Speaker 1>this is Brian Fincilly. Um, it's just uh yeah, I

0:33:44.840 --> 0:33:47.600
<v Speaker 1>just wanted to tell a really cool Scott Hall story.

0:33:47.640 --> 0:33:49.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if too many people know this, but

0:33:49.600 --> 0:33:52.520
<v Speaker 1>in two thousand one, he went to New Japan and

0:33:52.560 --> 0:33:55.000
<v Speaker 1>he was wrestling and he was the whole tour. He

0:33:55.040 --> 0:33:58.400
<v Speaker 1>was building up a match against Mudo. So he wrestled

0:33:58.480 --> 0:34:04.200
<v Speaker 1>a young lion by the name him and he gives

0:34:04.280 --> 0:34:06.760
<v Speaker 1>him the Razor's edge and then he grabs the mic

0:34:06.800 --> 0:34:09.719
<v Speaker 1>and starts talking all this crap about Mudo and Taahashi

0:34:09.840 --> 0:34:13.280
<v Speaker 1>pens him, which is like a young lion never pens

0:34:13.360 --> 0:34:16.480
<v Speaker 1>any moment, especially a trout like that. But but but

0:34:16.600 --> 0:34:19.320
<v Speaker 1>Scott Hall said, this kid's money. He was selling everybody

0:34:19.360 --> 0:34:21.759
<v Speaker 1>this kid's money. And Tanahasi became one of the all

0:34:21.800 --> 0:34:25.080
<v Speaker 1>time great so he saw before before anybody. So he

0:34:25.120 --> 0:34:27.520
<v Speaker 1>had definitely had a huge eye for talent. And and

0:34:28.200 --> 0:34:31.080
<v Speaker 1>there's the interview with Tanahashi and he talked about how

0:34:31.120 --> 0:34:33.080
<v Speaker 1>it meant you know, it was such a huge deal

0:34:33.120 --> 0:34:37.360
<v Speaker 1>for him. Well, yeah, yeah, I want to thank you

0:34:37.440 --> 0:34:38.799
<v Speaker 1>very much for the call. One of the first things

0:34:38.800 --> 0:34:41.919
<v Speaker 1>I saw on Twitter today was Tanahashi sending out best

0:34:41.960 --> 0:34:46.480
<v Speaker 1>wishes to Scott Halls. So yeah, he he would help people.

0:34:46.560 --> 0:34:49.760
<v Speaker 1>He had no problem helping people. He didn't have and

0:34:49.760 --> 0:34:52.640
<v Speaker 1>and for a guy that in the nineties, I mean

0:34:52.680 --> 0:34:56.160
<v Speaker 1>he was at the very, very very tippy top in

0:34:56.280 --> 0:34:58.879
<v Speaker 1>terms of like, you know, the biggest superstars and most

0:34:58.880 --> 0:35:02.040
<v Speaker 1>famous people in this business. He had no problem helping people.

0:35:02.440 --> 0:35:06.160
<v Speaker 1>And in the nineties a guy at that level, there

0:35:06.200 --> 0:35:08.319
<v Speaker 1>weren't a lot of them like that. In fact, most

0:35:08.360 --> 0:35:12.760
<v Speaker 1>of the stories were the exact let's go to uh

0:35:12.920 --> 0:35:17.319
<v Speaker 1>a brattel Borow. It could be wrong, but you're on

0:35:17.360 --> 0:35:21.520
<v Speaker 1>the go. All right, what's going on? Brian? It's from

0:35:21.560 --> 0:35:25.080
<v Speaker 1>the old land line today, So shout out to the

0:35:25.120 --> 0:35:28.080
<v Speaker 1>twitch homies. I wanted to quickly share my thoughts on

0:35:28.160 --> 0:35:31.680
<v Speaker 1>Scott Hall. It's just such a bummer to hear the

0:35:31.680 --> 0:35:35.440
<v Speaker 1>news and everything. Um, possibly one of the guys that

0:35:35.560 --> 0:35:39.839
<v Speaker 1>had the greatest impact on the business without ever being

0:35:39.840 --> 0:35:43.280
<v Speaker 1>a world champion, and just a heck of a worker.

0:35:43.640 --> 0:35:45.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna probably have to go through on one of

0:35:45.360 --> 0:35:48.640
<v Speaker 1>those old Michael's versus Razor Ramon ladder matches after this,

0:35:48.680 --> 0:35:52.520
<v Speaker 1>because uh yeah, just an amazing worker, hell of a talent,

0:35:52.680 --> 0:35:55.799
<v Speaker 1>and just a bumber to hear the news today. But yeah,

0:35:55.760 --> 0:35:57.840
<v Speaker 1>I have a go on guys, all right, thanks so

0:35:57.920 --> 0:36:00.880
<v Speaker 1>much for the call there, diggon from the old landline

0:36:02.719 --> 0:36:04.359
<v Speaker 1>day can calling in. What else do we have here?

0:36:04.360 --> 0:36:11.160
<v Speaker 1>In the text message beIN ah. I'm a female fan

0:36:11.239 --> 0:36:15.239
<v Speaker 1>new to wrestling only three years, cultivated by a W.

0:36:15.880 --> 0:36:18.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm sad I barely got to explore matches by Scott

0:36:18.440 --> 0:36:21.040
<v Speaker 1>Hall and just when I discovered his match with Sean

0:36:21.080 --> 0:36:23.000
<v Speaker 1>I find out he's going to pass away a lot

0:36:23.040 --> 0:36:26.120
<v Speaker 1>of great Scott Hall stuff. If you look around, there's

0:36:26.160 --> 0:36:29.160
<v Speaker 1>a lot of a lot of good stuff out there, Brian.

0:36:29.200 --> 0:36:32.680
<v Speaker 1>Anyway to play Scott Hall's rap from the Wrestle Rock

0:36:32.880 --> 0:36:38.000
<v Speaker 1>ad don If you're listening Scott Hall rap from the

0:36:38.080 --> 0:36:42.600
<v Speaker 1>Wressell Rock ad see if you can find it. Well,

0:36:42.640 --> 0:36:49.919
<v Speaker 1>you're busy editing my show for replay, let's see, Yes,

0:36:50.320 --> 0:36:54.000
<v Speaker 1>Josiah telling the same story about Hall and Hiroshi Tanahashi.

0:36:55.600 --> 0:36:58.279
<v Speaker 1>This person here, says Brian, I guess I skew a

0:36:58.360 --> 0:37:00.160
<v Speaker 1>little older than some of the other listeners because my

0:37:00.200 --> 0:37:02.560
<v Speaker 1>first memory of Scott Hall was the a W A.

0:37:02.719 --> 0:37:06.040
<v Speaker 1>I loved his team with Kurt Hennig. I remember hearing

0:37:06.080 --> 0:37:09.440
<v Speaker 1>on John or Resi's show that w c WS Diamond

0:37:09.520 --> 0:37:13.040
<v Speaker 1>stud with Scott Hall. Honestly could not reconcile that it

0:37:13.080 --> 0:37:16.120
<v Speaker 1>was the same baby face with the Tom Selleck mustache

0:37:16.400 --> 0:37:20.160
<v Speaker 1>that I remembered from after school on ESPN. I love

0:37:20.160 --> 0:37:21.920
<v Speaker 1>how much of an outpouring of love there's been for

0:37:21.920 --> 0:37:24.000
<v Speaker 1>Scott Hall in the last few days. One of the

0:37:24.040 --> 0:37:27.880
<v Speaker 1>true greats, and the wrestling world will be worse off

0:37:28.000 --> 0:37:31.600
<v Speaker 1>for losing him. For instance, I saw Scott Hall live

0:37:31.760 --> 0:37:36.240
<v Speaker 1>March of Land Over Maryland, Diesel and Razor versus Double

0:37:36.360 --> 0:37:40.919
<v Speaker 1>j Jeff Jarrett and Sean Michaels. Everyone looked great except Nash.

0:37:40.960 --> 0:37:42.960
<v Speaker 1>He phoned it in, but Razor got the loudest reaction

0:37:42.960 --> 0:37:46.720
<v Speaker 1>of the night thinking of Scott Hall in his family today.

0:37:47.360 --> 0:37:49.320
<v Speaker 1>I remember this person said I had the best of

0:37:49.440 --> 0:38:19.919
<v Speaker 1>Russellmania VHS tape. Oh, here we go, brgging the show.

0:38:19.960 --> 0:38:23.000
<v Speaker 1>Brian Elber is here, rustling observer alive. This person says,

0:38:23.000 --> 0:38:25.440
<v Speaker 1>I remember I had the best of a WrestleMania VHS

0:38:25.480 --> 0:38:27.880
<v Speaker 1>tape that had the Seaun versus Razor ladder match on.

0:38:27.920 --> 0:38:29.879
<v Speaker 1>It was the match I rewatch more than any other,

0:38:30.400 --> 0:38:32.360
<v Speaker 1>served as the template from my brother and I did

0:38:32.440 --> 0:38:35.360
<v Speaker 1>ladder matches in the backyard, Ulucies. Well, you know, I

0:38:35.400 --> 0:38:38.359
<v Speaker 1>have to say here as a public service message, never

0:38:38.440 --> 0:38:41.839
<v Speaker 1>try this at home. But if you happen to try

0:38:41.840 --> 0:38:45.280
<v Speaker 1>it at home and you want to do some ladder matches,

0:38:46.320 --> 0:38:50.000
<v Speaker 1>that's the match to watch because as far as ladder

0:38:50.040 --> 0:38:53.719
<v Speaker 1>matches go, it's safe and it's smart. And uh that's

0:38:53.719 --> 0:38:56.640
<v Speaker 1>actually the best way to describe Scott Hall as he

0:38:56.680 --> 0:39:00.920
<v Speaker 1>was safe and he was smart, very very smart worker,

0:39:01.640 --> 0:39:06.200
<v Speaker 1>very very smart too to uh many aspects of this business,

0:39:06.719 --> 0:39:08.759
<v Speaker 1>not the least of which was you got to know

0:39:08.800 --> 0:39:10.920
<v Speaker 1>how to get yourself over. You gotta know how to

0:39:10.920 --> 0:39:12.879
<v Speaker 1>get the other guy over. You have to know how

0:39:12.880 --> 0:39:15.920
<v Speaker 1>to do a match without killing someone, and uh, and

0:39:15.960 --> 0:39:19.080
<v Speaker 1>you have to entertain the people. What more? What more

0:39:19.120 --> 0:39:21.879
<v Speaker 1>would you want? Next? What Scott Hall was great at? So?

0:39:22.880 --> 0:39:26.120
<v Speaker 1>Um that was from Ulysses right there. So yeah, I

0:39:26.120 --> 0:39:30.200
<v Speaker 1>want to thank everybody who uh sent in messages here today.

0:39:30.280 --> 0:39:35.560
<v Speaker 1>We can talk about this more tomorrow and you know

0:39:35.640 --> 0:39:38.800
<v Speaker 1>we were we got the brilliant V show tomorrow Raw fourteen.

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<v Speaker 1>So uh, these are the old school raws Razor was

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<v Speaker 1>a part of. So we'll talk about him on the

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<v Speaker 1>show's tomorrow as well. And final note, here this person says,

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<v Speaker 1>I beg to differ about the Summer Slim Ladder match.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember hearing Hall and HPK were barred from using the

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<v Speaker 1>Ladder's weapon. They had cleverly work around those limitations. And

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<v Speaker 1>although it's finish isn't as good as Mania ten, it

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<v Speaker 1>speaks of his genius and rings psychology to put a

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<v Speaker 1>match like that together. I enjoyed the match a little

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<v Speaker 1>more appealing back the curtain. Lots of love and respect

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<v Speaker 1>for you, David Scott Hall and his family. Well, let's it, everybody.

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