1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:08,560 Speaker 2: Welcome in our number three Clay Travis buck Sexton Show 4 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:12,560 Speaker 2: Monday edition. Encourage you to go download the iHeartRadio app 5 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 2: make sure that you don't miss a moment of this 6 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 2: show anywhere in the country. When welcome again our new 7 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 2: affiliate in Washington, d C one oh four point seven 8 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 2: Freedom one oh four point seven. That is a fantastic, 9 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 2: absolutely fantastic addition to this show, and we're joined now. 10 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 2: It's a great movie that's out. It's having a tremendous 11 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 2: amount of success. Some of you may have already seen it. 12 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 2: If not, you may have well heard about it. If 13 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 2: you have not, you're going to hear this discussion about 14 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 2: it here. Jim Cavizl who was the star in Passion 15 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 2: of the Christ. He is also a star in Sound 16 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 2: of Freedom, and Jim, we appreciate you taking the time 17 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 2: to hang out with us. I know you were on 18 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 2: with Rush years ago when the Passion of the Christ 19 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 2: came out, and many of our listeners may well remember 20 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 2: hearing you twenty some odd years ago with Rush as 21 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 2: you discussed the success of that movie. And now you're 22 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 2: back with us again. You got another movie that's dominating. 23 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 2: Tell us what it's about, why you think it's having success, 24 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 2: and why you'd encourage people listening to go check it out. 25 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 3: I play a man named Tim Ballard, a former Homeland 26 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 3: security man that goes down to the border of Collexico, 27 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 3: California and takes down one of the worst pedophiles traffickers 28 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 3: they've ever seen. He rescues this little boy, a little 29 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 3: boy says, where you find my sister, and he essentially 30 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 3: sells everything to go and look for this little girl. 31 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 4: Jim, it's Buck. Thanks so much for being with us 32 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 4: this movie. I mean, we see this where something that 33 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 4: has a theme, a traditional theme of just good versus 34 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 4: in this case, pure evil, does so well at the 35 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 4: box office, and. 36 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 5: There are all these reviews and. 37 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 4: People writing about it saying, oh, well, this is a 38 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 4: surprise that this kind of independent film. Why do you 39 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 4: think this is resonating so much with people? 40 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 3: Has a lot to do with in a nutshell, with 41 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 3: our republic that's collapsing right now, if we can hurt 42 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 3: little children and let them die and be slaughtered, and 43 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 3: I mean there's plenty of facts here too, and the 44 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 3: you know, these media that claimed fact checkers who the 45 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 3: public is waking up, they're now asking who are your 46 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 3: fact checkers? Because I love for them to cross examine 47 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,959 Speaker 3: with Tim Ballard and many of these agents. They don't 48 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 3: know who they're talking about, and they won't even go 49 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 3: to the border. And when you look at a country 50 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 3: that's losing doesn't have a south border. Are we a 51 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 3: country we're celebrating the fourth of July. We don't have 52 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 3: a south border. We are not a sovereign nation. What 53 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 3: is going on? That's what the American public is looking at. 54 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 3: And the facts are there. They have done plenty, plenty 55 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 3: of stuff research, but you never see these people that 56 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 3: read from their papers. They're probably getting from the Pentagon 57 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 3: to actually go down there and do their own research, 58 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 3: like people like Lara Logan that actually go into war zones. 59 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 2: Jim, what do you attribute the overall success of this movie? 60 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 2: Because I know you're probably, like Buck and myself an 61 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 2: old school movie buff, and you remember when Indiana Jones 62 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 2: was out in the Temple of Doom and Raiders of 63 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 2: the Lost Ark and everything else. Your movie is going 64 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 2: head to head now and winning in many markets against 65 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 2: the fifth Indiana Jones movie. With all of the marketing power, 66 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 2: all of the dollars that Disney can pour into a 67 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 2: franchise of that magnitude, What does the success of your 68 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 2: movie say about the desperate demand for stories such as 69 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 2: these to be told. 70 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 3: You know, last year they did a movie on the 71 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 3: Top Gun and Tom Cruise didn't go into all of 72 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 3: the bus that they wanted to make his film, uh 73 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 3: in the and taken away from the original Top Gun. 74 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 3: People went there and they watched, They had an experience. 75 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 3: They they loved the flight, areos and stuff. They loved 76 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 3: that it was Americans, and they loved their country. And 77 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 3: we have a we have a republic, life, liberty and 78 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 3: the pursuit of happiness. And and so we have gone 79 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 3: so far left and had people shove their you know, 80 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 3: LGBTQ flag up into our face. We've millions of Christians 81 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 3: they are saying, this is sick, this is not what 82 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 3: we want. So I made a movie. It's the truth 83 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 3: about what's going on. It's current. You know, if if 84 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 3: they had have made Schindler's List during the time of 85 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:52,919 Speaker 3: when it was happening, think about that, it would have 86 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 3: been what what that had had would have been. It'd 87 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 3: saved millions of lives. And so this is poking right 88 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 3: out the dragon, the al, the three letter agencies, all 89 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 3: of them, because you can't tell me that eighty five 90 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 3: thousand children can come across the border and disappear like 91 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 3: Miss Rhodeoff's April twenty sixth testimony told us that eighty 92 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 3: five thousand children have vanished. And then you have all 93 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 3: these articles coming out and ripping the film. Why what's 94 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 3: wrong with being an anti trafficking film and an anti 95 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 3: pedal film. Brother, look at the laws that they're trying 96 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 3: to pass now. And so Americans are fed up. They're 97 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 3: sick and tired of you taking our beer. It's not 98 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 3: our beer anymore. We're not drinking buddy light. We're not 99 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 3: going to target anymore, and we're not going to ped 100 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 3: pedal land anymore. And all of these other conglomerates that 101 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 3: want to get involved in this, Americans have drawn drawn 102 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 3: the line, and the line is our children, and you 103 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 3: can't f with our children. Trying to be polite here, 104 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 3: but you cannot mess with our children because God's children 105 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 3: are not for sale. And Americans still appreciate one nation 106 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 3: under God. 107 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 4: You know, Jim, I know you're playing in this film 108 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 4: The Sound of Freedom, which we recommend everybody see out there, 109 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 4: and it's doing very well, which is encouraging on a 110 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 4: number of levels that a film like this would have 111 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 4: the reception that it has had. You play Tim Ballard 112 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 4: or your character Jim is based on Tim Ballard. I'm 113 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 4: sure you've had lots of conversations with him about what 114 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 4: could we begin to do here to confront the scale 115 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 4: of this problem. I mean, as I said in the beginning, 116 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 4: I don't know if there's anything that could be considered 117 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 4: a more absolute evil than the trafficking of children. And 118 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 4: you're putting numbers out there, you're raising awareness about this 119 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 4: with the movie. What would be some of the steps? 120 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 4: I mean, a lot of people out there are thinking, 121 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 4: how do we start to I know, so it's a 122 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 4: massive problem, it's a global problem. 123 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 5: Well what does it look like to try to. 124 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 4: Begin to fight back against this effectively and save these kids? 125 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 3: Well, right now, there's a message that I give at 126 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 3: the end of the film. It's a powerful message. But 127 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 3: right now what's happening is is that when we first 128 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 3: went to sell this film, we had to go through 129 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 3: social media. Nobody would listen to us and we were 130 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 3: a voice in the desert crying out and eventually the 131 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 3: public started coming. And now they're starting to come. I mean, 132 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 3: this is just starting. What they're doing is Angel has this. 133 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 3: They're the ones that promote the film and Angel has 134 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 3: this pay it Forward program, curiously enough a film I did, 135 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 3: but it's a pay it forward program that help people 136 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 3: they're economically stuck right now to see this film. And 137 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 3: they go to the movie, they get free tickets, and 138 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 3: so the word is spreading because people are able to 139 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 3: see the film because a lot of people under this 140 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 3: crazy administration, they can't afford it. So they've made it affordable. 141 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 3: Nobody's ever done this before. Angel did this the Harmon Brothers, 142 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 3: and so the first thing is getting people to see 143 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 3: it so that individual can afford a ticket buyers it. 144 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 3: Maybe he goes in and he has ten tickets that 145 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 3: he you know, for his friends, and him may go 146 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 3: and watch it, and then they go tell ten twenty 147 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 3: thirty people. And that's what's happening. Now. We had gone 148 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:33,839 Speaker 3: to Congress and ask them, hey, we got to get 149 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 3: this stuff going on with the border here, and they've 150 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 3: kind of have done. Had I thought they were going 151 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 3: to do something they didn't. You know what, nothing is 152 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 3: going to happen unless the people unite and say enough, 153 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 3: and this is by the people for the people. This 154 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 3: is not a government. The government doesn't run us, and 155 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 3: that's what they've been doing. And now we're all pulling 156 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 3: together right now. We're all dangerous to them. But we 157 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 3: know we're public. We know we're not a democracy. We 158 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 3: know we are a republic because you can't vote somebody's 159 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 3: inalienable rights away under a republic. Life comes before liberty, 160 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 3: life comes before happiness because without you your life, you 161 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 3: have no liberty, you have no happiness. And so by 162 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 3: the People for the people is happening right now. And 163 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 3: we're going to constitutional full across the board and we're 164 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 3: going to become a sovereign nation again very soon. And 165 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 3: we're uniting around this because you can't because again my 166 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 3: character says over and over again, God's children are not 167 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 3: for sale. And when God tells you to do something, 168 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 3: you don't hesitate. That's the American way. 169 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 2: Jim, you're obviously very passionate. That's fueled so much of 170 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 2: your success as an actor. We're talking to Jim Caviezel. 171 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 2: I know there's a talk, and I'm curious what the 172 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 2: update is on this. A lot of our listeners watch 173 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 2: The Passion of the Christ, the movie that you started 174 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 2: that Mel Gibson produced. I know that there's talk of 175 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 2: the Passion of the Christ or resurrection, and so I 176 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 2: got a couple of things here. 177 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: What can you tell us about that movie? 178 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 2: And when you make a movie like Sound of Freedom, 179 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 2: how much of the Hollywood audience actually does respond to 180 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 2: the movie like this, even if they don't don't do 181 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 2: so publicly. In other words, how much of an underground 182 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 2: is there in Hollywood where people who work on the 183 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 2: movies both actors, but you know, behind the scenes people 184 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 2: actually are big proponents of their faith and supportive of 185 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 2: what's going on. 186 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 3: Well, they're there, they're underground, and they're there in the 187 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 3: agencies as well. They're good, good, good Americans are fighting, 188 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:43,959 Speaker 3: but the guys that are in charge are the ones 189 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:49,719 Speaker 3: that are destroying our republic. We did The Passion of 190 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 3: the Christ twenty years ago, came out in two thousand 191 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 3: and four. We filmed it in two thousand and two, 192 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 3: and I got to go through a huge experience on 193 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 3: that movie. When the moment I took that movie I 194 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 3: was told by many not to do this film, and 195 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 3: I said, why, It's in the Gospels. It's in the Bible. 196 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,199 Speaker 3: You know, we put our hand on the Bible one 197 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 3: week swear. You know, you go into court here and 198 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:22,079 Speaker 3: you put your hand on the Bible. And this version 199 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 3: of it is the one we did right from that, 200 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 3: and I was incredibly attacked by the media. So that 201 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 3: was before fake news. Okay, when Trump came in and 202 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 3: started talking about fake news, nobody knew it was fake news. 203 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,599 Speaker 3: Now we all know it's fake news. And they're struggling 204 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 3: with the narrative. And the narrative back then was to 205 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 3: take away our foundation of one nation under God. That's 206 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 3: what they chipped away. And when we came in with 207 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 3: that film, you know, this film did remarkably well. But 208 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 3: the Passion came in five days. This was six almost 209 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 3: seven days. That was five days at one hundred and 210 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 3: thirty nine million dollars at seven dollars a ticket back then, 211 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 3: you know, and the public spoke out and said this 212 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 3: is our film. After that happened, I couldn't get a job. 213 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 3: Why the film did over a billion dollars worth of business, 214 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 3: and they were like, no, no, not unless you work 215 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 3: on our terms. I was given a gift. It came 216 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 3: from God Almighty, and it's not my gift, it's his. 217 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,319 Speaker 3: That's the difference between me and other artists. I didn't 218 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 3: give myself a gift, but I'll put my gift up 219 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 3: against anybody in the world because it's his. And so 220 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 3: I had a responsibility to do my job and and 221 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 3: fight for Americans in films. You know, I was inspired 222 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 3: by Jimmy Stewart when I was around Jimmy Stewart and 223 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 3: he told me, jim make good movies. 224 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 5: So I did. 225 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 3: I made the thin red line, and I was moving 226 00:12:56,120 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 3: up the rocket chain right here in this industry. But 227 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 3: always the intention to inspire people to find moral redemption 228 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 3: in stories, and the industry has been hijacked from us, 229 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:13,439 Speaker 3: the people, American people. And so they're crying out in 230 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 3: this film right now. They're watching because this is current. 231 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 3: As I said it, Schindler's List had been made during 232 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 3: the time of Auschwitz, it could have prevented a lot 233 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 3: of wickedness that would happened under the Nazis and also 234 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 3: what happened under the Soviet Union. Their crimes to date 235 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 3: are just unprecedented, but we have a lot of these 236 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:38,839 Speaker 3: things going around right now, and that children. There are 237 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 3: more slaves right now of children right now in this 238 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 3: world than all slavery when it was legal in history. 239 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 3: That's what you find out in this film. 240 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:51,959 Speaker 4: The film is the sound of freedom. I know a 241 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 4: lot of you have seen it, a lot more of 242 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 4: you will see it. Jim, thank you so much for 243 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 4: being with us here sharing your story, and we wish 244 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:01,319 Speaker 4: you continue. You'd luck both in this film and on 245 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 4: future films. 246 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 3: I would like to thank all Americans, all Americans out there. 247 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 3: And I've said this before when Ronald Reagan said it 248 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 3: many years from his a time for choosing that you 249 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 3: and I have a rendezvous with destiny. We'll preserve for 250 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 3: our children this the last best hope of men on earth, 251 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 3: will sentence them to take the last step in two 252 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 3: one thousand years of darkness. My brothers and sisters, and 253 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 3: the words of Reagan, remember, evil is powerless if the 254 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 3: good or unafraid God bless you. 255 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 5: Thank you, jem Man. 256 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 2: Fantastic interview there will react to it. Also, we're going 257 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 2: to talk with Riley Gain's. Third hour of the program underway, 258 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 2: and I want to tell you millions of driver's license 259 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 2: were exposed in a massive data breach after bad actors 260 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 2: hacked a popular file transfer service. 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On a very different topic here, Clay, 279 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 4: your buddy's at it again. I Gavin Newsome. Now here's 280 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 4: the thing. He's out there everybody he watches Fox a lot. 281 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 4: I'm just gonna put this out there. Who is Gavin's 282 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 4: favorite Fox News talking ahead? Maybe somebody who I don't 283 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 4: know also covers a wide variety of things like sports. 284 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 4: Perhaps somebody who thinks that Gavin might even run as 285 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 4: the Democrat nominee. 286 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 5: I'm just throwing it out there here. 287 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 4: He is telling everybody he obsessively watches Fox News play eleven. 288 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 3: Do you occasionally turn on Fox at the time and 289 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 3: see what happens? 290 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 2: Just to see not occasionally every night every night? 291 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 6: And do you think Democrats should still be appearing on 292 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 6: Fox or should they not be? 293 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 5: A parent? 294 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 3: It contributes to the mental health crisis in the state. 295 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 3: So on the basis of one's own personal conditions. 296 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 5: I would not recommend it. 297 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 3: My staff is quite literally tried to. 298 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 5: Have interventions with me about it. They say, I'm too 299 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 5: obsessed with it, but I need to understand it. 300 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 7: You want to know what the other side thinks. 301 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 5: I don't want to know what they think. 302 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 4: I want to see the patterns, and what you see 303 00:16:58,400 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 4: are patterns that emerged. 304 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 5: I don't know, man, I think. 305 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 4: I think he finishes up every night with a glass 306 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 4: of pino noir watching Fox. He's probably watching Hannity. He 307 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 4: sees Clay Travis go on there, and he's just like 308 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 4: that guy. Clay makes a lot of sense, you gotta say. 309 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:16,919 Speaker 2: I initially he was making jokes about the fact that, 310 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 2: you know, Gavin and I were gonna have a nice 311 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 2: pino noir and have a nice chat looking out over 312 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 2: the son Noma Valley somewhere. 313 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: I actually think we might end up doing it. Well, 314 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: take a picture. 315 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 2: It's gonna it's gonna break your it's gonna break your 316 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 2: Twitter feedbuck when Gavin and I are having a glass 317 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 2: of wine discussing all the issues going on the country. 318 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 2: In all honesty, though he's going to be the nominee 319 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 2: in twenty four, I really do think that he's going 320 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 2: to be the Democrat that they put forward in twenty 321 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:44,400 Speaker 2: twenty four. 322 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 4: Bold talk, mister Clay Travis, the kind of talk that 323 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 4: gets Gavin Newsom glued to the TV screen when he's 324 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 4: watching it night. 325 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 2: I think he's also gonna be way tougher to beat 326 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 2: than Joe Biden, honestly, which is scary. 327 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 4: Innovation refunds my friends. 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I am excited to announce that OutKick 353 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:20,439 Speaker 2: has hired her to be doing a podcast all about 354 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 2: defending women's sports, and Riley, We're excited to have you, 355 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 2: and I've got a quote for you. The timing is unbelievable. 356 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 2: On this Meghan Rapino is announced that she is retiring. 357 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 2: The US Women's World Cup is just about to start 358 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:40,439 Speaker 2: in Australia and New Zealand, and in an interview in 359 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 2: Time magazine, Riley, I don't even know if you've seen 360 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 2: these quotes yet. I'm going to read them for you. 361 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 2: She was asked Meghan Rapino was would you welcome a 362 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 2: trans athlete? Rapino said, absolutely, You're taking a real woman's place. 363 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 2: That's the part of the argument that's still extremely transphobic. 364 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 2: I see trans women as real women. What you're saying 365 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 2: automatically in the argument you're sort of telling on yourself 366 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 2: already is you don't believe these people are women, therefore 367 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 2: they're taking the other spot. I don't feel that way, 368 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 2: and she said later, oh, now we care about fairness, 369 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:26,199 Speaker 2: Now we care about women's sports. That's total bull. You 370 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 2: know what comes after and show me all the trans 371 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 2: people who are nefariously taking advantage of being trans in sports. 372 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 2: It's just not happening. Repino said, what would you say 373 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 2: in response? 374 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 6: Riley, Look, I mean this is the most I mean, 375 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 6: this is predictable. To be honest, we could have imagined 376 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:49,400 Speaker 6: that she would have said absolutely, of course she did 377 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 6: when she just announced her career was over. Had Megan 378 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 6: Rappino been asked this question in the height of her 379 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 6: career try and actually trying to advance to the height 380 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:01,400 Speaker 6: of her career, she would not have have the same opinions. 381 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 6: And it's easy to understand why. Is because a man 382 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 6: could easily take her place easily. And in regards to 383 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 6: how this is telling on yourselves, that goes, I mean 384 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 6: that goes more our way than anything. Because at our 385 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 6: national championships they had to change the rules to the 386 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 6: locker room to allow a man into our locker room. 387 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 6: They had to say, oh, well, we got around this 388 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 6: by making the locker room's unisex. That right there is 389 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 6: admitting that it's not a woman. It's a full admittance. 390 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 6: These organizations who are buying into this, they know what's wrong. 391 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 6: They know it's unfair, and Megan Rappino is virtue signaling, 392 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 6: which is not a surprise to anyone. 393 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,120 Speaker 4: You know, what do you think in Riley it's buck 394 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 4: What do you think the response should be to this, 395 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 4: because we know it's only a matter. 396 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 5: Of time before you do have a. 397 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 4: Male to female transition who is trying to play at 398 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 4: a high level of women's soccer. You came up against 399 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 4: this in swimming, It's happened elsewhere. Do you think that 400 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 4: the female players should just refuse to play? I mean, 401 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 4: this is often something that comes up. What's the proper 402 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 4: response given that this is just going to continue? 403 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 6: You know, for the longest time, I rejected the notion 404 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 6: of boycott. I thought women shouldn't have to compromise anything. 405 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:26,120 Speaker 6: There's no sacrifice that we should make. But now let 406 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 6: me tell you, as I see more and more girls 407 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 6: get injured, I see more and more girls lose out 408 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 6: on opportunities, more and more girls exploited in a locker room. 409 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 6: Boycotting is the answer. That's how this is going, that's 410 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,400 Speaker 6: how we're effectively going to make change. I thought legislation 411 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 6: would be the way forward, but really the turning point 412 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 6: for me and embracing a boycott is when this got 413 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 6: introduced on the House at the federal level. By it 414 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 6: wrote Representative Greg's duby, the Protection of Women and Girls 415 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 6: in Sports Act, and all Democrats, every single one of them, 416 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 6: all two hundred and three, voted in opposition. 417 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 7: Of protecting Women and Girls in Sports. 418 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:04,159 Speaker 6: And that's when I realized, if we wait for legislation 419 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 6: to make changes, it's too far gone. Too many women 420 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,159 Speaker 6: will have lost out. Too many women again will be 421 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 6: have their rights to privacy entirely violated and be potentially 422 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:19,199 Speaker 6: injured in their sports. So I most certainly am advocating 423 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 6: and calling for a boycott, not just from women. 424 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 7: I think men could boycott too. Men need to make 425 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 7: a statement. 426 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 6: I think that's a powerful way to show that this 427 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 6: is something that affects everyone and that everyone has had enough. 428 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:35,439 Speaker 1: You shared a story over the weekend. 429 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 2: I think it was that I couldn't believe it was real, 430 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 2: and I want you to fill in for people out 431 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 2: there who may not have heard about it. There was 432 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 2: a sixteen year old girl who objected to a biological 433 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 2: man pretending to be a woman using a YMCA. I 434 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 2: believe I've got this correct locker room. What happened to her? 435 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 2: What is this story for people who. 436 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 5: Have not heard it? 437 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 7: So I've talked to this family. 438 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 6: The story is every single day after their practice, at 439 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 6: the same time, a man would be undressing in their 440 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 6: locker room. And these girls, of course, they felt uncomfortable 441 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 6: by this, and so they went to their coach immediately 442 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 6: and said, hey, you know, there's a man in our 443 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 6: locker room every single day. Can you do something about it? 444 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 6: And he assured them, you know, of course I'll do something. 445 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,679 Speaker 6: But it continued to happen every single day, and so 446 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 6: these girls they met together, they took it upon themselves 447 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 6: to do something, and so they got together they wrote 448 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 6: little posters and on these posters, which were eventually deemed 449 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 6: as hate speech, they wrote, protect women's sports. 450 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 7: They wrote, you know, women's space. 451 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 6: Only certain things like that, nothing even about trans individuals. 452 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 7: Just so it was a pro woman message. 453 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 6: And they put these posters up in the locker room, 454 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 6: and that next day of practice, their coach pulls them 455 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 6: together and says who did this? And the one girl 456 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 6: steps forward and she said, well, I was a part 457 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 6: in it. And he said, you're off the team immediately, 458 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 6: and you're kicked off out of the YMCA. 459 00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 7: And so she was banned from. 460 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:05,640 Speaker 6: The one for opposing a male who is undressing to be. 461 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 7: In their locker room. 462 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 2: I want to emphasize this again because am I correct Riley. 463 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 2: This is a sixteen year old girl, a minor, and 464 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 2: her teammates are also miners, and she this girl bore 465 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 2: the consequences for saying, hey, there shouldn't be a man 466 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 2: changing in our locker room. Who's arguing that he's a woman. 467 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 2: She was the one who had to bear the consequences. 468 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 6: You're right, that's exactly right, and it's crazy, and I 469 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,640 Speaker 6: think to make matters even worse, Not only did these 470 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,360 Speaker 6: parents have to deal with this with this daughter, their 471 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:41,199 Speaker 6: older daughter. 472 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 7: Her name is Caitlin Wheeler. 473 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 6: She was on my team at University of Kentucky and 474 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 6: we were training partners and she's one of my best friends, 475 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,439 Speaker 6: and she dealt with this when competing and changing in 476 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 6: a locker room with Leah Thomas. And so now these 477 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 6: poor parents have dealt with this from two of their daughters. 478 00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 6: Yet it people continually push the argument, it's not really happening. 479 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 6: You know, it's not really a big deal. It's not happening. 480 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 6: It is happening. It happened to this family twice. One 481 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,160 Speaker 6: of the young track and field girls out in California 482 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,679 Speaker 6: who competed against the boy. Her older sister competed against 483 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 6: Leah Thomas as well. These are two families who have 484 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,439 Speaker 6: been impacted in two entirely different situations, but in the 485 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 6: same way. 486 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 5: Riley, you may have seen this. 487 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:27,439 Speaker 4: It's not quite sports, but it is a competition that 488 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 4: the Miss Netherlands competition was, which is a feeder to 489 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 4: the Miss Universe competition was one. This is a female 490 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 4: beauty pageant. It was one by a transgender man or 491 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 4: transgender woman. Is this the next thing we should expect 492 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 4: where trans like women's pageants and other things also are 493 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:55,640 Speaker 4: now going to be one by men. 494 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 6: Look, there's a realm of things we can expect this, 495 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 6: not just beauty pageants, but prisons in women's shelters and sororities. 496 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,879 Speaker 7: And notice this is only going one way. 497 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 6: It is always narcissistic, entitled men entering in the women's division. 498 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 6: We don't see women going in men's bathrooms, we don't 499 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 6: see women going into men's prisons. And it's because these 500 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 6: men are on power trips. And look, I have no 501 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 6: animosity towards let's say Leah Thomas for example. Look, La 502 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 6: Thomas was following the rules. It's the rules that need 503 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 6: to change that allowed this, because what message are these 504 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 6: rules sending? And I can tell you from my experience 505 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 6: the message I got, and it's that I don't matter 506 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 6: that we as women, as girls, as female athletes. We 507 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 6: didn't matter our privacy, our safety, our fairness, our self, 508 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,680 Speaker 6: perception of ourselves, our mental health, our dignity. 509 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 7: I mean, the list goes on. None of that matters. 510 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 6: What matters to these, to corporate America, to academia, to 511 00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:00,679 Speaker 6: the media, to actually the Biden administration who was leading 512 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 6: this country. 513 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 7: What matters to them is catering to the radical. 514 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 6: Minority, with us as women being collateral damage. 515 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 2: I think the answer is Riley, that as part of 516 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,479 Speaker 2: your OutKick podcast, you'd be very happy to talk to 517 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:17,360 Speaker 2: somebody like Megan Rapino. So when Meghan Rapino says it's 518 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,880 Speaker 2: total bs, show me all the trans people who are 519 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,919 Speaker 2: nefariously taking advantage of being trans in sports. It's just 520 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 2: not happening for people out there who may not have 521 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,679 Speaker 2: heard your story. Riley can tell us about what the 522 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 2: podcast is going to do, but legitimately the reason that 523 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 2: you are talking to us is because a man ended 524 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 2: up winning a women's in Cuba championship and you competed 525 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 2: against that man identifying as a woman, and so you 526 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 2: were planning on being I believe a vet like you 527 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 2: would be in veterinary school right now, but for the 528 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 2: fact that this competitive situation directly happened in in Cuba 529 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 2: women's championship sports. 530 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 6: You're exactly right. And this is never something I wanted 531 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 6: for myself. This is never something I felt equipped for. 532 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 6: I mean, heck, I still don't feel equipped for what 533 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 6: I'm doing, but I know what's at stake if I 534 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 6: don't do it. And to answer your question, I would 535 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 6: love to have Megan Repino on your podcast. Actually consider 536 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 6: this an official invite, Meghan Rapino. I would love it 537 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 6: if you joined the New Games for Girls podcasts where 538 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 6: we can have an open dialogue about the issue of 539 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 6: men competing in women's sports, and Nancy Armor, consider this 540 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 6: your open invitation as well. This is the woman who 541 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 6: deemed Sam Ponder as a bigot for believing in biology, 542 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 6: and she claims that I am some right wing grifter 543 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 6: who's just trying to climb the ladder off of tyme 544 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 6: against Leah Thomas. No, Nancy, I would love to have 545 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 6: a conversation with you. This is definitely a space where 546 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 6: I hope to spread awareness and ultimately, more than anything, 547 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 6: spread the truth. 548 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 4: Well, congratulations on OutKick. I hear the guy who found 549 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 4: that he's pretty cool. 550 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 5: He's okay, Yeah, And you're launching a podcast. When does 551 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 5: that start? 552 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 6: I actually just film my first episode. I think the 553 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 6: plan is for it to come out on Wednesday, so we'll. 554 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 5: See Riley gains. Everybody go find her. 555 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 2: I would kill it, buck, and I bet you're gonna 556 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 2: find out that all the people who disagree with her, 557 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 2: when offered an open form to come and explain their 558 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 2: audience and their opinion, they'll run and hide. 559 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:20,239 Speaker 1: They won't do it. 560 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 4: I've never seen somebody thank you, Riley, thanks so much 561 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 4: for being with us. 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Sarah is a VIP, she said today 607 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 4: in the radio, Buck made the comment that Trump supplied 608 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 4: she wrote, bayonets to Ukraine. How is that possible? Russia's 609 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 4: invasion of Ukraine did not happen until twenty twenty two. 610 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 4: I said that Trump supplied dragon Off sniper rifles and 611 00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 4: Javelin anti tank missiles to you. And that is because 612 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 4: the Russian forces invaded in small scale a part of Ukraine, 613 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 4: stretching back into the Obama administration going on now eight 614 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 4: years ago. So the full scale invasion did not happen 615 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 4: until Biden. But there were effectively a paramilitary incursion you 616 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 4: could call it, that went on for about seven years 617 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 4: before the including the Crimean referendum that resulted in Crimea 618 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 4: joining the Russian Federation, although people say that was held 619 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 4: you know, at gunpoint in essence. So anyway, VIPs, you 620 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 4: get your you have a question, you get an answered 621 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 4: right away. Clay, do you have something else? I was 622 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 4: gonna talk Ben and Jerry's here before we do this. 623 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 4: Let's let's do it. Your favorite I may judge you 624 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 4: as a communist based on this answer. Your favorite flavor 625 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 4: of ice cream period, not even Ben and Jerry's, just 626 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 4: in general, what's your so first place? 627 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 2: I haven't been eating Ben and Jerry's ice cream ever 628 00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 2: because this was not a thing in the South, at 629 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 2: least I remember as a even before I knew that 630 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 2: they were super woke. But I made the decision years 631 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 2: ago when they did the Colin Kaepernick flavor, I was like, 632 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:09,760 Speaker 2: these guys are chumps. 633 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 4: Like, did you grow up calling soda pop? Is that 634 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 4: a Nashville so. 635 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 2: We called everything coke pop is a bad West? Crazy 636 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,800 Speaker 2: pop is the Midwest. If you were my age growing 637 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 2: up in the South, you would say, they would like, hey, 638 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 2: if you they walked up to you at a restaurant and 639 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,319 Speaker 2: be like, hey, what do you want to drink? You 640 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 2: would say maybe a coke and they'd say, okay, what 641 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,319 Speaker 2: type of coke? So you might be like, I order 642 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,800 Speaker 2: a coke and then I would like a blowing people's 643 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 2: minds here or not from the South mellow yallow, which 644 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 2: was the competitor of Mountain dew from the coke perspective, 645 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,240 Speaker 2: but yeah, everything was a coke because Coke was founded 646 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 2: in Atlanta. Coke owned the South back in the day. 647 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 2: So if you were ordering SODA's. East Coast pop was 648 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,319 Speaker 2: Midwest everything's a coke in the South. I don't know 649 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 2: if that's still the case, but that was the air 650 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 2: in which I grew up. I am now and this, 651 00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 2: this flavor did not exist when I was a kid. 652 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 2: I order one of two things. One is the chocolate 653 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 2: chip cookie dough. I think cookie dough ice cream is 654 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 2: a home run or this flavor did exist. I go 655 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:15,439 Speaker 2: mint chocolate chip probably most frequently. My selected ice cream 656 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:16,799 Speaker 2: choice is mint chocolate chip. 657 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,799 Speaker 5: You what about you. I'm a pistachio guy. I like it. 658 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,239 Speaker 4: I really had diva taste and ice cream. I like 659 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 4: a pistachio. You know, it's just that green. That green 660 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,759 Speaker 4: color gets me excited. I do like mint chocolate chip 661 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:30,799 Speaker 4: very much, though I'm not gonna. 662 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 5: I can't. I cannot tell a lie. 663 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 4: My parents love strawberry ice cream, which I still can't. 664 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 4: I'm not a strawberry ice cream person. I don't know 665 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 4: why that's considered a top three ice cream flavor, but 666 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,840 Speaker 4: it is chocolate, vanilla strawberry. My friend I was always 667 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 4: also a Sherbert guy, which is how we pronounced sorbet. 668 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,239 Speaker 4: In the South, you would get I would get an 669 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,279 Speaker 4: orange Sherbert. Back when I was a kid, learned a 670 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 4: lot about the South. Well, Ben and Jerry's why we 671 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,920 Speaker 4: bring it up? They said that Independence Day we should 672 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 4: think about all the stolen in indigenous land. Turns out 673 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 4: Clay that a Indigenous chief in Vermont has come out 674 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 4: to say that Ben and Jerry's headquarters is specifically on 675 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 4: land stolen. 676 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 3: From the. 677 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 5: Kusuk Abenaki Nation. 678 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 4: Will Ben and Jerry's give back the land their headquarters 679 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 4: is on, I'm gonna guess probably not. 680 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 2: One of our writers at out Kickbuck has requested official 681 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 2: comment from Ben and Jerry's on when they will be 682 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 2: removing themselves from their corporate headquarters and returning the land 683 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 2: to the Native American population in Vermont. So far, shocker, 684 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,279 Speaker 2: they have not yet responded on when they are going 685 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,399 Speaker 2: to give up their land that they stole awfully from 686 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 2: the Native America. 687 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,760 Speaker 4: Wopness is like socialism. It's about giving away other people's stuff.