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Speaker 1: That would be me three and Out podcast. That'd be

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Speaker 1: what you're listening to. Uh, the the regular season. The

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Speaker 1: here because I don't plan on watching one minute of

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Speaker 1: any of these preseason games. College football. I can't wait

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Speaker 1: I'm just excited for this show that I actually got

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Speaker 1: a lot to talk about. I'm gonna dive into these

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Speaker 1: next forty hours and just some misconceptions, uh, the good

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Speaker 1: and just how it all works. The Washington Redskins. It's

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Speaker 1: really crazy, what a dumpster fire that franchise is. I

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Speaker 1: did a little research today because I didn't know that

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Speaker 1: much about him. Daniel Snyder was so successful before he

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Speaker 1: And he for being such an the ultimate self made billionaire,

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Speaker 1: And uh, we're gonna dive into this weekend. The pressure

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Speaker 1: trying to beat Auburn and Canmorrio crystal Ball with the

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Speaker 1: I don't think the game could be that much bigger.

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Speaker 1: Tony Romo wants like ten million dollars. I have an

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Speaker 1: him that probably should. I mean, it would be worth

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Speaker 1: no brainer will get into that. I'll do some NFL headlines.

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Speaker 1: I'll do the Middlecoff mail bag which is at John Middlecoff,

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Speaker 1: which is my Instagram handle, my d ms wide open.

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Speaker 1: what the kids call it. And I'll answer your questions here,

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Speaker 1: same as my Twitter account at John Middlecoff. Uh name

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Speaker 1: I went to athletic dinner last night. I write for

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Speaker 1: you know, but you know, it keep keeps you humble,

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Speaker 1: you know, when people can't spell your name. Now. Granted,

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Speaker 1: I was like when that when I woke up this morning,

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Speaker 1: I just I don't get it it. Honestly, doesn't really

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Speaker 1: make sense for how terrible the Redskins consistently are and

428
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Speaker 1: how at one point in time the Golden Child like

429
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Speaker 1: the one of the great up and comers in American

430
00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:39,480
Speaker 1: business history, that they're connected and they're not just connected.

431
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Speaker 1: That guy has run this franchise into the ground, and

432
00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,160
Speaker 1: they're they're a laughing stock, They're a joke, and they're

433
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Speaker 1: a disaster under this guy's watch. It Really they should

434
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Speaker 1: do a thirty for thirty on it, honestly, because I

435
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Speaker 1: I can't figure it out. Okay, let's touch on a

436
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Speaker 1: little college football, because I don't think there's any team

437
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Speaker 1: this week on including last week the first couple of

438
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,639
Speaker 1: games that has more pressure on them to get the

439
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Speaker 1: job done than Oregon. They are carrying the pressure of

440
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Speaker 1: a conference. And I mean there are a lot of

441
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Speaker 1: pressures in life, Like I'm sure many of you have

442
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Speaker 1: children that there's legitimate pressures like feed your children, make

443
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Speaker 1: sure they you know, have health insurance so they can

444
00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:24,200
Speaker 1: grow up healthy. Like you know, do well in your

445
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,359
Speaker 1: job so you can pay for everything in your life,

446
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 1: and you know, pay for roof over your head, Like

447
00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:32,120
Speaker 1: those are legitimate pressures, right. I used to always get

448
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Speaker 1: great joy overseeing. Like when I was a j at

449
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,919
Speaker 1: Fresno State and guys, you know, we recruited a lot

450
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Speaker 1: of players. It didn't come from much, and a lot

451
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Speaker 1: of times they would be the first guy to graduate,

452
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Speaker 1: you know, from a college, from a university in their

453
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Speaker 1: family's history. Like their pressure behind that, But that's more

454
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Speaker 1: of just an accomplishment. And you see a lot of

455
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Speaker 1: times and I still get pretty excited when a guy goes,

456
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Speaker 1: you know, maybe maybe came out of who early goes

457
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:04,160
Speaker 1: to the pros and then ultimately graduates because they knew

458
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 1: it meant a lot to their family like that. They

459
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,440
Speaker 1: felt pressure because it meant a lot to their mom,

460
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 1: but it wasn't gonna change their life by the time

461
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 1: they're in their late thirties or forties or whatever. But

462
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,639
Speaker 1: they knew before you know, maybe their mom or dad died,

463
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:17,679
Speaker 1: it meant a lot to him. They wanted to do it.

464
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Speaker 1: They played in the league for a long time. I

465
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Speaker 1: think that's always cool, and I think there's there's pressure

466
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Speaker 1: involved there, but at the end of the day, it's

467
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Speaker 1: not gonna change anything. We're at the end of the

468
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Speaker 1: day of Oregon wins or lose this game. I don't

469
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Speaker 1: think it necessarily changes anything, but there is tangible pressure

470
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Speaker 1: for a perception of a conference that is viewed right now.

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Speaker 1: They say the Power five. Let's call what it is

472
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Speaker 1: right now. There's a Power four, and then there's the

473
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Speaker 1: Pack twelve. There's the a SEC, which Clemson is carrying.

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Speaker 1: There's the SEC, which is the lead dog. Then there's

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Speaker 1: the Big ten. In the Big twelve that have been

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Speaker 1: pretty damn good with Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas and then

477
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Speaker 1: obviously Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State, Wisconsin. The Pack twelve

478
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Speaker 1: has been terrible these last three or four years, like

479
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Speaker 1: a borderline embarrassment. Here's a big problem I have for

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Speaker 1: the pact. Weal of this season that they're most talented team.

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Speaker 1: The Oregon Ducks have a major question market head coach,

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Speaker 1: because here's what Mario crystal Ball, who has the pressure

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Speaker 1: of the conference riding on his shoulder, is gonna have

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Speaker 1: to do to give this team a decent chance to

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Speaker 1: make the playoffs. One, he's gotta beat the win this game.

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Speaker 1: And Gus takes a lot of crap down in the

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Speaker 1: SEC and down in the South, mainly because their standards

488
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Speaker 1: are astronomically high, but say what you want. Gust has

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Speaker 1: beat some pretty good coaches over the years, so to me,

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Speaker 1: even if he doesn't have the more talented team in

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Speaker 1: this game, he sure as hell could out coach Mario.

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Speaker 1: Let's say Mario upsets the I guess I have to

493
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Speaker 1: look at the line, might not be an upset, but

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Speaker 1: just wins this game. In the Pac twelve, there's cut

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Speaker 1: into two divisions, the North and the South. Well, the

496
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Speaker 1: North is dramatically more difficult than the South, mainly because

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Speaker 1: it's top heavy with coaches. David Shaw talked to and

498
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Speaker 1: coach in this country Chris Peterson I'd put as a

499
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Speaker 1: top five coach in this country. And Mike Leach, I mean,

500
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Speaker 1: one of the better coaches in the country. Definitely one

501
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Speaker 1: of the better coaches at non powerful programs and is

502
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Speaker 1: able to win nine or ten games a year. You're

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Speaker 1: telling me that Mario crustal ball, even though he's got

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Speaker 1: a potential top five quarterback and a loaded roster, he's

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Speaker 1: gonna go because the Pack twelve is not getting a

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Speaker 1: team into the into the Pack into the conference or

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Speaker 1: the playoffs if they have one loss. Because at the

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Speaker 1: end of the day, let's say Alabama's undefeated, Georgia has

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Speaker 1: one loss, and you know Wisconsin or you know Michigan,

510
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Speaker 1: Ohio State has one loss, and Oklahoma texts have one loss.

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Speaker 1: Like the Pact twalves on the outside looking in. We

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Speaker 1: know that for a fact. So you've gotta run the

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Speaker 1: table in the Pact Walve to get in unless it's

514
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Speaker 1: just one of those years where all these teams have

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Speaker 1: two losses, which the last several years has not been

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Speaker 1: the case. So if the Pact Wave is gonna get

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Speaker 1: a team in the playoffs, they're gonna need them to

518
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Speaker 1: go to undefeated. And right now to start to see

519
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,679
Speaker 1: he's an Oregon has all the momentum, but you go, Okay,

520
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 1: he beats Bobber, which would be a big win for him.

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Speaker 1: His biggest problem is he has to beat Mike Leach,

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Speaker 1: Chris Peterson, and David Shaw, And I see, I don't

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Speaker 1: see him having a snowball's chance in hell to beat

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Speaker 1: all four of these coaches. I just don't. I I

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Speaker 1: think he'd be lucky sitting here while I'm sitting watching

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Speaker 1: this conference and watching these coaches my entire life, especially Peterson.

527
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Speaker 1: I've been watching his career closely at Boise State, Obviously

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Speaker 1: we've all been watching Mike Leats since he was lightening

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Speaker 1: people up a Texas tack. And then David Shaw is

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Speaker 1: just big David Shaw guy, and I'm a big Hardbud guy,

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Speaker 1: So I fallow Stanford pretty closely. I just don't see

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Speaker 1: how that's possible. I I really don't. I think that

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Speaker 1: Oregon is like set up and what's kind of unfair.

534
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Speaker 1: And I've heard other people talk about this on other shows.

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Speaker 1: They're like, it's kind of stupid, like the Oregon could

536
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Speaker 1: lose this game and not really be a bad loss.

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Speaker 1: And that is true. Gus Melson beats good coaches, beats

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Speaker 1: good teams. The problem is the Pac twelve is viewed

539
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 1: at like the JV Conference right now, and they deserve

540
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 1: that they have created that there their inability to hire

541
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Speaker 1: the right coaches to make football a priority. There there

542
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Speaker 1: two intouh, I got news for your academia means and

543
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 1: the culture out here on the West Coast is just

544
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 1: different than it is in the South, the Big Ten

545
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Speaker 1: and the Big twelve and at Clemson, it just is

546
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Speaker 1: that there are hoops that you have to run through

547
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Speaker 1: at some of these West Coast institutions that you just don't.

548
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Speaker 1: At Ohio State or Florida or Georgia Alabama. When Nick

549
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 1: says jump, everyone on campus says how high? When you

550
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 1: say jump at Cal, people look at you. They just

551
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 1: keep on walking. No one cares. So I just don't

552
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Speaker 1: know how he does it, And I think I'm already

553
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 1: set up for the letdown, which is sad and the

554
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Speaker 1: Pac twelve. I don't know how they get out of

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Speaker 1: this rut. I really don't. I think their best chance

556
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Speaker 1: in the next several years to eventually make the playoffs

557
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 1: will be Chris Peterson, who did it several years ago

558
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Speaker 1: and then got his asked kicked by Alabama in that

559
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 1: playoff game. But I do not feel good about Mario.

560
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 1: I just I think he's the worst coach of the

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Speaker 1: of the best ones in his own division, let alone

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Speaker 1: his conference, even if you factored in the South. Kyle

563
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Speaker 1: Whittiham's a better coach than Mario crystal Ball. Kevin Sumlan's

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Speaker 1: accomplished more than Mario crystal Ball. Jiff Kelly, who I

565
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Speaker 1: think has kind of lost his fastball as I mean

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Speaker 1: it's forgot probably more football in big games than Mario

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Speaker 1: crystal Ball. So I just I think the conference is

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Speaker 1: kind of set up to be a major, major letdown.

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Speaker 1: And I'm telling you, if Oregon loses this game, which

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Speaker 1: I would love for Oregon to win it, but I

571
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Speaker 1: got news for you. I'm I'm picking Auburn just because

572
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Speaker 1: I'm just I'm going with the SEC in these in

573
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Speaker 1: these tight games. I mean, Washington, who's a better program

574
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Speaker 1: than Oregon, did the same thing last year and didn't

575
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Speaker 1: even play that well and and then flipped it in

576
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Speaker 1: the second half. Actually they played pretty well and they

577
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Speaker 1: still lost. I just I can't see it, and I

578
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 1: think they are gonna get eviscerated. Let's say, especially let's

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Speaker 1: say Oregon loses by I don't know, ten points, people

580
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 1: will not take the Pack twelve seriously at all moving forward,

581
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: which sucks, but it's also earned like that. They they've

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00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: they've created this monster kind of now of everyone viewing

583
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: them as a second rand conference and there's nothing they

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00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: can do to get out of their own way until

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00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 1: they have a team run the table and then probably

586
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 1: win a playoff game, because just making the playoffs right

587
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 1: now isn't good enough. You gotta show out in the

588
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 1: playoffs like Notre Dame last year. I had a really

589
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 1: good season, but then they kind of got their ass

590
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: kicked again in the playoffs. Like I I can't view

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame as Alabama, as Clemson and a host. They're

592
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: not they're equals that They're just they're on a different level.

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00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: Just say with the Pack twelve, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: They might give on on a one off a game,

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00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 1: but I just they're not. They don't belong on the

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Speaker 1: same field right now, and they used to. You know,

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00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll when he had USC humming Chip Kelly, when

598
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 1: he had Oregon humming Stanford and some of those early

599
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 1: David Shay years when he had a Hummond. But right now, man,

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00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 1: the Pack twelve could be in for another long year. Okay,

601
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 1: let's dive into Tony Romo. I saw a headline on

602
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Speaker 1: on Twitter did he wants ten million dollars? And that

603
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 1: would be the highest paid I guess analysts in the

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Speaker 1: history of football. Back way back in the day, John

605
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 1: Madden got eight million dollars. Think about how much of

606
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 1: that wasn't like the early nineties when Fox finally got

607
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 1: the NFL shows you I mean that the money has

608
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 1: been a little cap But I have a pretty easy

609
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 1: solution and a lot of times, you know, people like

610
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 1: middle Coff, you're just complaining. I'm like, well, I'm not

611
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 1: in the solution business. I'm just critical or just give

612
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 1: my opinion on stuff. It's not It's not my job

613
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 1: to figure out a solution. It's the coaches as the

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00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 1: players is whatever. I just observed. But I think this

615
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 1: one's pretty easy because I have been very critical and

616
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Speaker 1: this I'm not on an island on this one of

617
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 1: money at football, because money at football last year was

618
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 1: an utter embarrassment. I mean it was. It was unwatchable.

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Speaker 1: If you watch these preseason broadcasts, a lot of them

620
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: are terrible. It's what it was like. But it's Monday

621
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 1: night football. It was terrible and it hasn't been the

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00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: same since John left. Now you can be critical of

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Speaker 1: Jon Gruden as a broadcaster in terms of well he

624
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: just kind of cookie cutter. He entertained and that's that's

625
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: really what I'm looking for in my analysts. I don't

626
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: care about X's nose breakdown. I I really want to

627
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 1: be entertained. Now. The best of both the worlds is

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Speaker 1: Tony Romo, who gives me the entertainment aspect and then

629
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 1: can call plays early. It's incredible. He's got to be

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00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: as unique of a broadcaster as we've ever heard, at

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Speaker 1: least in my lifetime. Maybe you know Phil Simms or

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00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 1: some of those guys when they first started doing it

633
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 1: had some of that in him. I don't remember. Maybe

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00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 1: older listeners of this could tell me. I to me,

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00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 1: Tony Romo is kind of a one of a kind. Well,

636
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: if I'm ESPN, and clearly they've tried to get their

637
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: business model member for a couple of years, was about politics,

638
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 1: ratings in the tank because I got news for you.

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00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: People want to talk sports, not politics. If I go

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Speaker 1: to ESPN, I want to watch football, I want to

641
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Speaker 1: watch basketball, I want to watch whatever. Not here your

642
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Speaker 1: anchors political opinion, we understand, you know where they fall.

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Speaker 1: We follow their tweets. They're all extremists. I just want

644
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Speaker 1: to watch football. And the ESPN has got it back

645
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Speaker 1: on track. They've become about sports and they've done a

646
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Speaker 1: good job. They got this new president. Ever since they

647
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Speaker 1: got rid of John Skipper for his drug problem, we think,

648
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: or whatever happened, no one really knows, but this this

649
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: new guy has come out swinging. He tried to get

650
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Speaker 1: paid Manning last offseason and came up short. Well, of

651
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Speaker 1: course he came up short because Peyton Manning is not

652
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Speaker 1: gonna do it that He's were hundreds of millions of dollars.

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Speaker 1: Even if you offer him just a stupid amount of money,

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Speaker 1: he doesn't need to do it. Remember we talked about

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Speaker 1: earlier this week about Andrew Luck. The hardest people are

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Speaker 1: to gauge or those not driven by money. Now, Peyton

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Speaker 1: Manning is clearly driven by money, but he has so

658
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Speaker 1: much that he can say no to stuff, So he

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Speaker 1: has the leverage of having so much money that he

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Speaker 1: doesn't need your money. Tony Romol also has a lot

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Speaker 1: of money but clearly likes doing this would be to

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Speaker 1: me a no brainer for ESPN. And I think you

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Speaker 1: could bay sically replace him. You know, he could do

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Speaker 1: the Gruden role. He would be on Monday Night Football.

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Speaker 1: And if he wants ten million, I'd give him twenty

666
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Speaker 1: million dollars because he'd be on Monday Night Football. You

667
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Speaker 1: would get so much credit for hiring him. Monday night

668
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Speaker 1: game is just is bigger than the Sunday night afternoon game. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And I mean it's cool working with Jim Nance or whatever,

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Speaker 1: but I would rather be the Monday night football announcer.

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Speaker 1: You could also do this, can you? I mean one

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Speaker 1: of the things that really put Gruden on the map

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Speaker 1: was his quarterback camp. He worked with all those rookie

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks before they were drafted and did a thirty minute

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Speaker 1: TV show and it was clearly really high highly rated.

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Speaker 1: It was really interesting, it was really cool. It kind

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Speaker 1: of separated Gruden made him pretty special, like Gruden was awesome.

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Speaker 1: And then once he started doing the MMQB, or not

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Speaker 1: the MMQB, but the Fire Coaches of America, you know,

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Speaker 1: at his operation in Florida, it was a hit. I

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Speaker 1: mean it was a major, major hit. Why couldn't you

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Speaker 1: do that with Tony Romo. Set up a little shop

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Speaker 1: in Dallas or wherever you want and have Romo spent

684
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Speaker 1: four hours with all the quarterback prospects, talk football, talk life,

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Speaker 1: do whatever film it cut it up. It would crush Romo,

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Speaker 1: Romo and the quarterback I don't know, like the Romo,

687
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Speaker 1: the Romo Hour, whatever you want to call it. You

688
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Speaker 1: know it'd be awesome. I I think this is such

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Speaker 1: a no brainer that you immediately, if you're ESPN, you

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Speaker 1: let his agent know, you let him know you you

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Speaker 1: tell Tony to tell us his price, He'll be our guy.

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Speaker 1: We will build the network around him. Now it would

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Speaker 1: ruffle feathers with ESPN like because everyone was always piste

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Speaker 1: off that Gruden was making that much money. And I

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Speaker 1: know Collins talked about this many times, that Gruden was

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Speaker 1: worth way more than even ESPN's paying him because of

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Speaker 1: the value. Obviously Monday Night crushed it, but his his

698
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Speaker 1: television shows in the off season with the Quarterbacks were

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Speaker 1: a huge success. The Romo and the Quarterbacks would be

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Speaker 1: a huge success. To me, it's a no brainer us

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Speaker 1: as fans, we no longer have to watch the crap

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Speaker 1: that his money and a football right now, and we

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Speaker 1: get Romo in the booth. He's really entertaining. Put him

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Speaker 1: with I don't know whoever you want to be the

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Speaker 1: play by play guy. I'd probably get test Store out

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Speaker 1: of there too. He's a he's a little over the

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Speaker 1: top for me. Oh, I mean, I Testore Romo whatever.

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Speaker 1: I could live with that, though, I'd want a little

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Speaker 1: better and I think we'd be back on track, and

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Speaker 1: I think it would be a huge win for ESPN

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Speaker 1: and just Monday Night Football overall. To me, it's I

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Speaker 1: don't give you any solutions on this show. But that's

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Speaker 1: a that's a BP fastball in my book. Okay, let's

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Speaker 1: get into the Middlecoff mail bag. But first I want

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Speaker 1: to hit on a couple of things that I've seen,

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Speaker 1: uh just throughout the you know, training camps. Last last

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Speaker 1: week one Hard Knocks. That last episode was a train wreck.

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Speaker 1: It couldn't have been anymore boring. The season had such

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Speaker 1: high hopes with Gruden. We get no mayok we get

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Speaker 1: none of their first round pick Josh Jacobs. They lightly

721
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Speaker 1: touch on Antonio Brown, but it never gets too in depth.

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Speaker 1: For all the hype that the show sucks, I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's had one good episode out of the four been

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Speaker 1: a massive, massive letdown. It's really sad because I was

725
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Speaker 1: really really excited for it. But just watching the All

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Speaker 1: or Nothing with the Panthers, watching the All or Nothing

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Speaker 1: on just other sports Man City, the All Blacks. It's

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Speaker 1: two thousand nineteen, Like we're not Hard Knocks. Isn't my

729
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:27,280
Speaker 1: only option anymore. We've had countless now All or Nothings

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Speaker 1: on Amazon Prime where I get way better access with

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Speaker 1: their coaches, their gms, their players. I don't know, man,

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Speaker 1: I it's hard Knocks run its course that they don't

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Speaker 1: give me anything interesting that I get, no personnel meetings

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Speaker 1: on on players. It just stinks. And I get the

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Speaker 1: Raiders having just knowing the way they operate, just personally,

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Speaker 1: I knew that they would be very hesitant to let

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Speaker 1: any information out. That they're very guarded just to begin with. Uh,

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Speaker 1: then they're very insecure about looking dumb because I think

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Speaker 1: they think that most people think they're dumb, because you know,

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Speaker 1: history would show us they struggled. You know, they go

741
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Speaker 1: to Canada, the field's a joke, and they come out

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Speaker 1: of it like blaming the Packers. Now, Matt Laflour kind

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Speaker 1: of looked like a woofs, you know, Gruden ran all

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00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 1: over him at midfield. But the Packers shouldn't have played

745
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 1: in the end zones that there was like a quarter

746
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 1: inch things sticking up out of a hole. So then

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00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 1: the Raiders did a good job of glossing over that.

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Speaker 1: Of course they did, because they don't want to look

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Speaker 1: like idiots in the show. But that the show is

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Speaker 1: just it's just completely fake. It used to be real

751
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: and now it's just I don't know, I don't know

752
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Speaker 1: if it's gonna be around that much longer. I'm very

753
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: disappointed in this show. Leonard Fournette. I think Leonard Fournette

754
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:47,280
Speaker 1: looks fantastic. He's running with a purpose, aggressive, he looks skinny.

755
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,280
Speaker 1: I know he talked about I think in the media

756
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: this week how he's lost some weight. I'm really impressed

757
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Speaker 1: and I I think that I think that Leonard Fournette.

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Speaker 1: I'll give you a hot take, sleeper mb P pick now,

759
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: It's obviously really hard for running backs to win the MVP,

760
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Speaker 1: but could the guy rush for like fift years m

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Speaker 1: VP might be strong. That's a super hot take. How

762
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Speaker 1: about comeback Player of the Year. Uh, just the preseason

763
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 1: game last week, he was run violent, trucking guys. I

764
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Speaker 1: just like what I'm hearing and what I'm seeing out

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Speaker 1: of Leonard four Nett. And I've been hard on Leonard Fournett.

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Speaker 1: I thought, how do you take a power running back

767
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: that high? Last year he was acting like an idiot,

768
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Speaker 1: fighting with dudes, getting kicked out of games, was chubby

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Speaker 1: and out of shape. Well, he's come back this off

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Speaker 1: this season. Looks like he's on a mission. I'm excited

771
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Speaker 1: to watch him play. And then the other story is

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Speaker 1: Carly Lloyd. Could she kick a football? I can't even

773
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Speaker 1: get into the all the takes on Twitter over it.

774
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Speaker 1: But if I was an NFL team, I'd work her out.

775
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 1: I don't think it's that nuts. I'm always shocked at

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Speaker 1: more soccer players don't go into football and try it

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Speaker 1: out just because we see how shitty kickers are. Now,

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Speaker 1: I also think that tells us how hard it is

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Speaker 1: to kick. It's difficult to find kickers. There are only

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Speaker 1: so many Adam Vinitari's and Justin Tucker's that those guys,

781
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 1: you know, they're just few and far between, and even

782
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 1: good ones can have terrible stretches of their career. Robbie gold,

783
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 1: who the Niners franchised, Now that's more of indictment on

784
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Speaker 1: the level of talent on their team. But still, Robbie

785
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 1: Golds had the two of the best years of his career,

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Speaker 1: had gotten like a three year stretch where he wasn't

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Speaker 1: very good. So kicking is a little like golf. Uh,

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Speaker 1: could she do it? You know? I would give her

789
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Speaker 1: a tryout. I was like the Bears. I don't see why.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it would be as easy as people

791
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 1: like on Twitter assume, But I think she would have

792
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Speaker 1: the lake strength, and I'd be interested if she was

793
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Speaker 1: kicking a game, I'd be I'd love to watch that.

794
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 1: Let's dive into the Middlecoff mail bag at John Middlecoff

795
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 1: is my Instagram handle. You can slide right up in

796
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: those d M s and I'll answer them whenever, so

797
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 1: fire in him. Huge fan of both podcasts from Canada.

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Speaker 1: Hey Buddy, If Jimmy g and Tom Brady have have

799
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Speaker 1: both have down years and the forty Niners and Patriots

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Speaker 1: are both looking to move on, do you think Bill

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00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 1: bella check would make a move for Jimmy to come back? Well,

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Speaker 1: if Tom Brady left and Jimmy was really terrible this

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Speaker 1: year and the Niners got rid of him, I think

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Speaker 1: one million percent Belichick would bring him back. One million

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Speaker 1: percent Belichick would bring him back. I just don't. I

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Speaker 1: think the big wild card is just Tom Brady. When's

807
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Speaker 1: he gonna leave? How's he gonna leave? You know? I

808
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Speaker 1: keep saying I don't. I don't think his arms gonna

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Speaker 1: fall off a cliff like Peyton Mannings did a couple

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Speaker 1: of years ago, or kind of like Eli's has done.

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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be an injury. So when it's

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Speaker 1: something like an injury, it could it could happen at

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Speaker 1: any time. But if Jimmy Garoppolo became available, I him

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Speaker 1: and him and McDaniels would one billion percent bring him back.

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Speaker 1: And I think Jimmy would be nuts for not going

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Speaker 1: back again. They need Brady to be gone. But you

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Speaker 1: know next year Brady is gonna be forty three? Is he?

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Speaker 1: Is he really gonna make into forty five? I think

819
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Speaker 1: we all just kind of assuming at this point. But

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Speaker 1: when you take a step back and you say that

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Speaker 1: out loud, he's gonna play football at forty five years

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Speaker 1: old quarterback, not kicking quarterback, that's nuts. Over under eight

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Speaker 1: and a half wins for the Colts. Question, how much

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Speaker 1: are the Colts to blame for not having a good

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00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: oldline during lux career or his luck just unlucky during

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Speaker 1: his career? Pun intended. I love the show. I think

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Speaker 1: I mean Ryan Grigson's the blame for those first three

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Speaker 1: years when he just got absolutely destroyed, crushed every game,

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Speaker 1: physically beat down eight and a half wins. I'll be honest,

830
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Speaker 1: because when we did the over unders all summer, I

831
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Speaker 1: definitely took them over and I think I picked him

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Speaker 1: to win the division. I don't have a great feel

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Speaker 1: because I still think their team is really good. I

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Speaker 1: believe in their general manager. I think their coach is good.

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Speaker 1: I just don't have a great feel for Jacoby. Ber said.

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Speaker 1: I was talking. We had an athletic dinner for the

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Speaker 1: Bay Area the Athletic and I was talking to Ted

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Speaker 1: to win. He's a He's a good follow on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: I think football analysis is is the Twitter handle. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure many people listening to follow him. He was. He

841
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Speaker 1: was telling me that he went back for an article

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Speaker 1: that he just wrote and watched Jacoby that year the Star.

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Speaker 1: Did you know the year that Ballard traded for him?

844
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Speaker 1: And I just said, how do you look? Because I

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Speaker 1: remember watching briefly, but that team was terrible if you remember,

846
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Speaker 1: because they ended up remember they ended up drafting third

847
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Speaker 1: overall and then they traded with the Jets and that

848
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 1: was the year they took Quenton Nelson. He's like, well, honestly,

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Speaker 1: it was hard to judge because that offensive line was

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Speaker 1: still like Ryan Grigson's offensive line, and it was atrocious.

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Speaker 1: He was getting destroyed. So I think the way people

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Speaker 1: talk about him, it's really high but I think we've

853
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 1: seen that song and dance with backup quarterbacks before. Uh.

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Speaker 1: But I'm not discounting him. Uh. You know he gets better.

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Speaker 1: He got hard working, smart players, improof even when they're

856
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Speaker 1: not playing. So I'm not gonna just write him off

857
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Speaker 1: and say that he hasn't improved from that year and

858
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Speaker 1: just being a backup. I'm looking forward to watching them play,

859
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Speaker 1: but I I would just as a gambler. I just

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Speaker 1: wouldn't touch it because they might be a six and

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Speaker 1: ten team just because Jacoby sucks. What if Jacoby is

862
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 1: like Alex Smith and they win nine or ten games

863
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Speaker 1: just because the coach is good. I think they were

864
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Speaker 1: one of the great wild cards in NFL history. A

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Speaker 1: big fan of Ham and Three and Out podcast. I've

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Speaker 1: been listening for two years now appreciate it. I was

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Speaker 1: talking with a buddy about an interesting prosper prospect for

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Speaker 1: a trade proposal and wanted your thoughts with both Clowney

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00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 1: and Williams. Trent Williams holding out with no one in sight,

870
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Speaker 1: what do you think about a player for player or trade?

871
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 1: Texans obviously have a line issues despite throwing some draft

872
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 1: capital at it, and they don't seem to want to

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00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 1: pay Clowney. The Washington Williams relationship seems broken beyond repair

874
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Speaker 1: and you can never have enough pass. Wresher's true only

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Speaker 1: question would be coup space. I'm a Niner fan, so

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Speaker 1: I have no dog in this fight, but thought it

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Speaker 1: was interesting concept. Would love to hear your thoughts and

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Speaker 1: keep killing it. Thanks hashtag bald brother bald brotherhood baby.

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I mean, if if I was the Texans,

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Speaker 1: I would one million percent do that deal. If I'm

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Speaker 1: the Redskins trading my franchise left tackle, then who's gonna

882
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:57,839
Speaker 1: play left tackle? I'm getting Clowney on an organization that's

883
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 1: pretty crappy where my coaches probably fired and I can't

884
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Speaker 1: sign the guy till the end of the season. If

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Speaker 1: I'm trading Trent Williams, I would rather have multiple picks

886
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Speaker 1: probably than Clowney. Now, in theory, I would want Clowney,

887
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Speaker 1: but I can't sign them, So I think that makes

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Speaker 1: it very, very complicated. It's where I always Bill O'Brien.

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Speaker 1: I'm a Bill O'Brien guy, but man, I think he's

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00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 1: he's just kind of screwed up this situation. He's created

891
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 1: a mess. John, do you think that there is a

892
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:27,800
Speaker 1: plan in place when Andrew comes back in two years

893
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: after destroy and rebuild is put in motion after this season,

894
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:35,320
Speaker 1: and they trade away assets, bringing fresh faces and solidify

895
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Speaker 1: the line around Andrew reemerges at the new, freshly healed

896
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Speaker 1: quarterback and give a second go that he's still young,

897
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Speaker 1: and I say, this is not that far off. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I would say that one. Uh, you can never rule

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Speaker 1: out him coming back right He made a pretty emotional decision.

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Speaker 1: He was pretty beat up. They were gonna put him

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Speaker 1: on injured reserve. But their team was equipped to win

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00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,359
Speaker 1: right now. So I don't think they need to blow

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Speaker 1: this thing up. Like their team is good. I think

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Speaker 1: most people in the NFL, most fans like me and

905
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Speaker 1: you on the outside, viewed the viewed the Colts. If

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Speaker 1: Luck was their starting quarterback, it's probably a eleven to

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Speaker 1: twelve win team. I felt pretty confident that they were

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Speaker 1: at I mean, at minimum a ten win team. So

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Speaker 1: you don't just get that, especially in a division that's

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Speaker 1: really good, without having a really good team. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they got stars at a lot of different positions. T

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Speaker 1: y their offensive line. I like the running backs. Eric

913
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Speaker 1: Ebron is now a star, Darius Leonard. They're good man,

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Speaker 1: they really are. So, I I don't know that's that's

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Speaker 1: a tough question because I again you can never discount

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Speaker 1: them coming back. But I think by no means as

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Speaker 1: a lock, I would say, actually it's a it would

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Speaker 1: be a little shocking. Luck was reportedly a vegan. Do

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Speaker 1: you think there is correlation between vegan vegetarian diets and

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00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 1: increased rates of injury and decreased rates of recovery? I

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Speaker 1: would I just don't think that many professional athletes. Uh,

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Speaker 1: I'm not a dietitian, but I don't think that many

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Speaker 1: professional athletes are vegans. I think it's a very very

924
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Speaker 1: small percentage just because of the importance of protein, how

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Speaker 1: much just naturally these guys have been used to eating

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Speaker 1: this type, you know, meet their entire lives just being

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Speaker 1: an athlete for the protein. Again, not a dietitian, so

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Speaker 1: it's hard for me to speak and have an educated

929
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Speaker 1: take on this, just a gut feel outside or taking

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Speaker 1: as someone that just powdered down a bunch of meat today.

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Speaker 1: I I really do think it's a really really small

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Speaker 1: percentage of people that are that donate meat. So did

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Speaker 1: it lead to like Andrew Luck getting injured a lot.

934
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Speaker 1: I think what led to Andrew Luck getting injured a

935
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Speaker 1: lot was just his offensive line sucked and he was

936
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Speaker 1: getting peppered. I mean absolutely tattooed, absolutely tattooed. And even

937
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 1: if you're six five, two thirty five pounds, a man

938
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Speaker 1: can only be hit so many times before he goes down.

939
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Speaker 1: Tyson says, everyone's got a game plan until they get

940
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Speaker 1: hit in the mouth. Imagine is getting hit over and

941
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Speaker 1: over and over and over again. You just it breaks

942
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Speaker 1: any man. And I think if you watch that Andrew

943
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 1: Luck press conference after the game, he was a broken man.

944
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Speaker 1: Any chance this year's Colts could be like the Rams

945
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Speaker 1: when Trent Green went down and Kurt Warner comes in, Well,

946
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 1: to me, the Kurt Warner's just one of the all

947
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Speaker 1: time outliers, not just in sports, but in world history.

948
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Speaker 1: This guy was discounted multiple times, had to go to

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Speaker 1: the a f L. Then even when he got a

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Speaker 1: shot in the NFL, was like a four stringer when

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Speaker 1: training camp started, and then to go on to become

952
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Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer. Like think about the we talk

953
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Speaker 1: a lot of times just in all aspects of life,

954
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Speaker 1: people overcoming long odds. I would say in the history

955
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Speaker 1: of the Hall of Fame any sports, Warner's odds were

956
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Speaker 1: the longest. The way he started, what he overcame, and

957
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Speaker 1: even once he got to the league, the randomness he

958
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Speaker 1: needed just to get a shot right. He needed the

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Speaker 1: starter to go down with the torn a c L

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Speaker 1: and then he he went on to become multiple time

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Speaker 1: m v P. In a Super Bowl chap in Hall

962
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Speaker 1: of Famer, I don't think we'll ever see that again,

963
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Speaker 1: So I I would say the likelihood of Jacoby were

964
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Speaker 1: sent me in being Kurt Warner is probably already slim

965
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Speaker 1: the nut because we would have probably seen glimpses when

966
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Speaker 1: he was the starter. Huge fan of your podcast. Which

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Speaker 1: website do you recommend for online sports betting? I? I

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Speaker 1: used my bookie. Uh, that's my bookie dot a G

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Speaker 1: And if you follow me on Instagram you'll see the

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Speaker 1: the promo codes and stuff to use that. That's that's

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Speaker 1: where I gamble though. Uh. And I've I've actually given

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Speaker 1: them a lot of money. They paid me for it

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Speaker 1: because they're a sponsored but I've I've lost the majority

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Speaker 1: of it to them. Now as I'm recording this, we're

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Speaker 1: in the second half of Cincinnati and U c l A.

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Speaker 1: It took a little dinner break and uh, Cincinnati is

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Speaker 1: up ten points. Chip Kelly not going well. Okay, Chargers

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Speaker 1: fan from North Dakota three t trade Gordon to Houston,

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Speaker 1: Clowney to Washington, Trent Williams to l A. What do

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Speaker 1: you think Gordon to Houston like it, Clowned to Washington,

981
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Speaker 1: Trent Williams to l A. That'd be sweet, that'd be

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Speaker 1: I'm down for it. I just don't think any of

983
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Speaker 1: the stuff is gonna happen because, as I said, with

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Speaker 1: the Redskins there adamant that Trent Williams is not gonna

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Speaker 1: get traded. So John, quick question. Okay, I accidentally deleted

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Speaker 1: that I've been listening to pot a lot lately. Appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: First time in the d MS. With Lamar Miller's injury

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Speaker 1: here quick Before I finished reading this, Lamar Miller for

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Speaker 1: his people freaked out, like, oh, Lamar went down, and

990
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Speaker 1: it sucks anytime you lose a starter in preseason. But

991
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Speaker 1: Lamar Miller was a pretty average starter, you know. And

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Speaker 1: again I'm not trying to kick him when he's down

993
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Speaker 1: because I root for no player to get injured regular season,

994
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 1: preseason whenever but I think a lot of people have overreacted,

995
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 1: like Lamar Miller's Zeke you know, or se Kwan Barkley.

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00:49:56,120 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 1: He's fine, serviceable. I mean, I got I got running

997
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Speaker 1: backs in the Bay Area, Jalen Richard, and he might

998
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 1: not be better. I mean, he's better at the passing game.

999
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Speaker 1: But like Matt Brady for the forty Night, like you

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Speaker 1: can find undrafted free agents. I just don't think Lamar

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Speaker 1: Miller is that good. Is it realistic to trade between

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Speaker 1: the Chargers in Texas Clowney for Gordon? Would Clowney even

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Speaker 1: be a good fit in the three four? And would

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Speaker 1: O'Brien even be willing to pay for Gordon after that trade?

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Speaker 1: I think there's no chance that the Chargers would trade

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Speaker 1: for Clowney. I I just I can't see that they are.

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Speaker 1: They have two blue Chippers on their defensive line. I

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Speaker 1: think they think Gordon's coming back. It's been reported. I

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Speaker 1: think he plans on coming back week one. So it

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Speaker 1: sounds cool and it's cool to talk about, but I

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Speaker 1: don't think that's I think that's unrealistic to think that's

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Speaker 1: gonna happen. Appreciate everyone listening. I hope you're enjoying college

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Speaker 1: football Thursday night. I know, I am. I you know

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Speaker 1: I can take a little enjoyment and watching Chip get

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Speaker 1: his butt kicked. But have a good week and I

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Speaker 1: will see you next week, which we also known as

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Speaker 1: Week one of the NFL season. Audios, godspeed, peace, see it.