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Speaker 1: Hey, this Sanny and Samantha, and welcome to stuff I've

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Speaker 1: never told you production of iHeart Radio. Did you get

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Speaker 1: excited about going back to school, Samantha, I think it

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Speaker 1: was according to what year it was, So when I

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Speaker 1: about you? No, I totally agree. I think I really

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Speaker 1: I also dreaded it. I was a very nervous person

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Speaker 1: if it's year? Is the year that I can't? I

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Speaker 1: I think my bigger fears were more so of having

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Speaker 1: So we would go on vacation every four years, and

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Speaker 1: it would always be the Smoky Mountains. That was it.

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Speaker 1: my parents couldn't afford. So I'm like, I stayed at

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Speaker 1: that was a source of tension for me too. We

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Speaker 1: I had some stuff going on. I was an outdoorsy kid. Yeah. Well,

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Speaker 1: I wanted to start with that because today we're gonna

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Speaker 1: to talk about that and what it looks like for

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Speaker 1: Samantha and I have said more than once, sometimes more

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Speaker 1: fear and that stress. Definitely something that I've asked my

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Speaker 1: that's a concern. First, I want them to be okay, Uh,

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Speaker 1: my sister is actually a teacher as well, and so

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Speaker 1: these are kind of big questions like what are you,

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Speaker 1: And the fact that that um, Bessie Davos as well

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Speaker 1: which could be matched with why don't we actually take

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Speaker 1: issue overall because I'm always going to go home. So

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Speaker 1: why are you changing all of this all of a

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Speaker 1: it's very disheartening to see, and um, it just blows

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Speaker 1: The Florida Teachers Union, one of the bigger ones, is

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Speaker 1: actually suing the government state government about reopening. They asked

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Speaker 1: it's kind of interesting to see how quickly people are like, wait, wait, wait,

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Speaker 1: we need to have this conversation what's happening, especially because

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Speaker 1: They're trying to find out, you know, if they could

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Speaker 1: well as that they all are getting adequate protective gear,

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Speaker 1: I mean that's the thing. There's no plan in place

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Speaker 1: overall dismissiveness that they have for our teachers at the

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Speaker 1: same time calling them heroes. This is such an absurd, absurd,

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Speaker 1: And further concern is one third of teachers are at

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Speaker 1: higher risk. Over fifty seventy six of teachers are women.

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Speaker 1: So this is impacting women more exactly, and as well. Again,

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Speaker 1: some of these wives are not agreeing. No no, no,

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Speaker 1: frustrates me when people frame that says, don't you want

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Speaker 1: kids to go back? Tool? Yes, everybody wants that to happen,

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Speaker 1: but it's not safe and there's no plan. Um, there

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Speaker 1: There's already been research that shows that American children have

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Speaker 1: We also know that i p s or individual education

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Speaker 1: So we know all of that, but that's also just

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Speaker 1: with teachers. I love you teachers, please understand um. Because

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Speaker 1: And then when you put that into the scope of

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Speaker 1: up to fail the end. That's exactly what has happened.

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Speaker 1: So yes, we are behind because they're at home, but

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Speaker 1: I think that's a great point. And kind of going

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Speaker 1: back to what you said in the beginning, like there

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Speaker 1: It points to these bigger problems that you are talking about.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we can talk about standardized testing. But another thing,

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Speaker 1: the Monday Marathon, Monday's Slamantha Ran, Sorry, I love it.

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Speaker 1: We should rebrand to rant. Agree. Well, I mean that

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