Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.
Speaker 1: What's up, everybody? Welcome to move the sticks, DJ, Buck
Speaker 1: with you buck uh Man, I've been gone. I was
Speaker 1: in Alaska for a week, had a nice little get
Speaker 1: away there. Do this every year, and I got to
Speaker 1: tell you, man, I can tell you about the trip
Speaker 1: in a minute. And I appreciate you soldiering on here
Speaker 1: on the show. But I left. Gosh, it was a
Speaker 1: week vacation, and then I got home on a start
Speaker 1: that's like, gosh, ten days or something like that. But
Speaker 1: this baseball team never won a game the whole time
Speaker 1: I was gone. Dodgers, they didn't win the whole time
Speaker 1: I was literally I spent a whole vacation in Alaska.
Speaker 1: They those guys did win a single game.
Speaker 2: This fine, Look it's a marathon, not a sprint.
Speaker 3: We know. We just got to get a ticket, got
Speaker 3: to get in guests. Some guys not playing well right now.
Speaker 3: Some guy's not playing very well right now.
Speaker 1: So I'm such a jinx. Though, I'm such a jinkx.
Speaker 1: They'll win like fifteen games in a row now, I
Speaker 1: just don't get me opportunity to take my shot. So
Speaker 1: I had to take my shot.
Speaker 3: I mean, you gotta take a shot when you feel
Speaker 3: like you shot it there. But we know what it's
Speaker 3: gonna be when it gets to do out.
Speaker 1: No, hey, dude, training camps here man getting excited to
Speaker 1: get out to see some camps. I'll be out this weekend.
Speaker 1: Are you going anywhere this weekend?
Speaker 2: What do you get? So I'm down in Florida.
Speaker 3: I got Miami and Jacksonville, So I have my Saturday
Speaker 3: Jacksonville on Sunday, going down.
Speaker 2: Early to check out the Jaguars.
Speaker 3: Their first practice is Wednesday, so I may have to
Speaker 3: go check that out, see what they're doing, see if
Speaker 3: they're gonna get how they're gonna use Travis Hunter. But no, DJ,
Speaker 3: it's like I literally have I was going through doing
Speaker 3: my calendar like I do on every Sunday, and I
Speaker 3: just kind of.
Speaker 2: Xed out all the weekends until February. Yeah, unavailable.
Speaker 1: Nothing dude, dude, I've got I've got. You're gonna be
Speaker 1: in the South. I'm gonna be in this. I'm going
Speaker 1: to see the number one overall pick cam Ward on
Speaker 1: Back Together Saturday, So that'll be this this coming Saturday.
Speaker 1: I'll be in Nashville to watch cam Ward the Titans,
Speaker 1: and then I'm gonna be at the Eagles, see all
Speaker 1: my buddies up there on Monday, the following Monday, and
Speaker 1: then after that zip home and I've got Chargers on Tuesday,
Speaker 1: and then I know there's I want to break news here,
Speaker 1: but like I do, believe, move the sticks. We're going
Speaker 1: to take the show to Cowboys Camp sometime or in
Speaker 1: early August, first second week August somewhere on there, so
Speaker 1: we'll get out there, get a chance to visit all
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. I'm sure we'll be out to the Rams
Speaker 1: to see those guys as well. So busy time, but
Speaker 1: a fun time, no doubt. Let's let's kick things off
Speaker 1: here Buckets time for Hot or Not, brought to you
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Speaker 1: of contracts have come down here from recently. This this
Speaker 1: office is in here. Look at what happened with the
Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs is where I wanted to focus. George
Speaker 1: Carloftis gets a new deal. Some people thought kind of
Speaker 1: surprised at the money, got good money. But he gets
Speaker 1: a new deal. Tray Smith, they had got him done
Speaker 1: as well. This offseason. So you look at, you know,
Speaker 1: the Chiefs and kind of how they've positioned their resources
Speaker 1: and in terms of what they did in the draft
Speaker 1: on the offensive line as well. Bucket feels like Andy
Speaker 1: Reid has always been a line of scrimmage guy and
Speaker 1: no surprise here that he continues to develop and to
Speaker 1: pay that position.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're doing.
Speaker 3: It's one of the things that the Kansa the Chiefs
Speaker 3: have done quietly, but it comes off of what they
Speaker 3: did successfull in Philadelphia for years. They are a trenches
Speaker 3: team and sometimes when we look at the Kansa the Chiefs,
Speaker 3: we see all the flash and dash, the razzle dalls,
Speaker 3: love Pat Mahomes and company, and we forget that they
Speaker 3: have kind of made their bones by being really good
Speaker 3: on the offensive line and fairly dominant on the defense,
Speaker 3: particularly when you.
Speaker 2: Have Chris Jones.
Speaker 3: The thing about it, you like, if you're Kansas City,
Speaker 3: you drafted George Cobofts as a first round pick. He
Speaker 3: has given you that complimentary playmaker that you wanted opposite
Speaker 3: of Chris Jones, and he's continuing to get better. Look
Speaker 3: the money, it's kind of crazy when you look at it.
Speaker 3: Ninety three million dollars is a significant chuck a change,
Speaker 3: but your expectation is he's going to it can continue
Speaker 3: to get better and eventually, when Chris Jones phased to black,
Speaker 3: George garloftis you're hoping becomes the centerpiece of the defensive lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I I look, I was with Andy, and I know
Speaker 1: in his belief in the line of scrimmage, he's always
Speaker 1: felt that way. I just think this team has morphed
Speaker 1: over the years and they've still continued to win at
Speaker 1: a very high level. Again, just one one went away
Speaker 1: from one another championship last year. But I have I
Speaker 1: have been kind of stuck on this one little thing,
Speaker 1: and this is just a selfish thing, and I think
Speaker 1: it's flies in the face of how we both preach
Speaker 1: about team building in terms of you build it up front,
Speaker 1: all those things. But I wrote down for the for
Speaker 1: the Chiefs m c f AM, we can get some
Speaker 1: hats m c f A hats make the Chiefs fun
Speaker 1: again like they just I want, I want, I want
Speaker 1: that to be that even even when look, I worked
Speaker 1: with the team in the division right, work with the Chargers,
Speaker 1: call their games, so there's every people will can tell
Speaker 1: me that I'm you know, anti Chief this, that and
Speaker 1: the other. I'll admit, like when the Chiefs in the
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill early days and Mahomes getting on the field
Speaker 1: of the days, like even if you weren't playing them
Speaker 1: or preparing, you know, to call a game with those guys,
Speaker 1: like you couldn't turn away from it. It was so
Speaker 1: fun to watch, like what they were doing so soon.
Speaker 1: And you know, I know in some of that changed
Speaker 1: the way teams play defense. That brought in too high,
Speaker 1: that brought in shell coverage, that let's put a lid
Speaker 1: on everything, limited explosive plays. But man, buck, they have
Speaker 1: been such a dink and dunk offense. I hope that offensively,
Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs can get some vertical aspects back
Speaker 1: in their game.
Speaker 3: You want you want some of the vertical, you want
Speaker 3: some of the fundays, some of the we the right
Speaker 3: on top of the defense. Yes, uh, it's coming back.
Speaker 3: Xavier Worthy will give them a chance to be. But
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be honest, I think part of the reason
Speaker 3: why the Chiefs have not been able to have the
Speaker 3: deep ball, they're different in the backfield than the way
Speaker 3: that they used to be. I look, I like Isaiah
Speaker 3: Pacheco and he solid, but I don't know if he's
Speaker 3: the type that you have to drop the extra defendant
Speaker 3: in the box to defend him. I've always felt like
Speaker 3: if the Chiefs were more special in the backfield, they
Speaker 3: will be able to bring back the deep ball, or
Speaker 3: they will be able to punish the two deep safety
Speaker 3: looks that their face and when people are really trying
Speaker 3: to make them play half court basketball.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you bring in, uh this draft clash and
Speaker 1: look at what's going to happen there. Okay, first of all,
Speaker 1: get Rashid Rice back, get him going. I don't know
Speaker 1: that he's really your deep threat, but you bring him
Speaker 1: in your first round picks a left tackle and Josh Simmons.
Speaker 1: You sign another tackle, Jalen Moore in free agency. The
Speaker 1: hope is that, okay, now you've got you've got a
Speaker 1: little more time. You can let those things develop down
Speaker 1: the field. Jalen Royals can really run. They drafted him
Speaker 1: in the fourth round. Worthy will be in the second year.
Speaker 1: We know he's arguably the fastest player in the National
Speaker 1: Football League. He is by time. So they've done things,
Speaker 1: you know, from a protection standpoint and just a development
Speaker 1: and their young guys kind of continuing to grow, including
Speaker 1: a new piece there that they should be able to
Speaker 1: get a little bit more over the top, and I'm
Speaker 1: looking at the backfield. What they did in the seventh
Speaker 1: round is the phone and brashot Smith who's going to
Speaker 1: give them. He can give them some explosive plays in
Speaker 1: the past game out of the backfield. But yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe that is it's kind of a different way of
Speaker 1: looking at it, right, But in order to be more
Speaker 1: vertical and explosive, we've got to be more dominant in
Speaker 1: the backfield. Like it's kind of seems like that's a dichotomy,
Speaker 1: but it actually makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 3: Well when you think about like how the league is going.
Speaker 3: Remember we've seen the renaissance of the running back, and
Speaker 3: we've seen the running game come back to prominence, and
Speaker 3: a lot of that was due to teams playing more
Speaker 3: zone coverage and more too deep coverage, trying to take
Speaker 3: away the big shots. Everyone is trying to take away
Speaker 3: the big play and for his teams to drive it
Speaker 3: down the field. The only way you can create those
Speaker 3: big plays offensively is when you run the ball and
Speaker 3: you can lure that extra defendan into the box. Now
Speaker 3: you have one on one coverage and you're hoping a
Speaker 3: speech to can win Xavier' worthy.
Speaker 2: I know somewhere in that playbook Andy.
Speaker 3: Reid wants to use those Dashawn Jackson plays the they
Speaker 3: have from Philadelphia Worthy, those deep overs, those deep in
Speaker 3: and out corners, those explosive plays. But the only way
Speaker 3: that they're going to be able to do it got
Speaker 3: to set up the run in some way. You've got
Speaker 3: to make them defend the running game so you can
Speaker 3: take advantage.
Speaker 2: Of the one on one possibilities.
Speaker 1: Yeah. The other thing that's interesting though, you look at
Speaker 1: the division, the three teams in your division, look at
Speaker 1: the fronts, the pass rushers of the teams in that division.
Speaker 1: That's six of your games right there. You got teams
Speaker 1: with dudes who can really rush. So you know, it's
Speaker 1: it's a little bit of a challenge and being able
Speaker 1: to protect to be able to get those shots off.
Speaker 1: So we'll see how this this offensive line comes together.
Speaker 1: A couple of new pieces there that'll be interesting. All right.
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Speaker 1: Wassabi dot com. I'm gonna split this up because there's
Speaker 1: a couple more football things I want to get to here,
Speaker 1: but i've been I'm moving this up on the rundown
Speaker 1: because i want to get your take on it. So
Speaker 1: we had we just had the open, right and Scotty
Speaker 1: Scheffer just won the open over there in Ireland believes
Speaker 1: where they played it, and there's a lot of There
Speaker 1: was a lot of buzz about the interviews that he
Speaker 1: gave and about how he talked about perspective and life
Speaker 1: and how winning or losing doesn't really make him as
Speaker 1: a person, talked about his faith, talked about his family,
Speaker 1: very low heartbeat. There was an interview I saw with
Speaker 1: Jordan Speif, another golfer on the tour, who talked about
Speaker 1: how you know Scotty when he's done playing, you'll never
Speaker 1: see him again. And he said he's unlike he made
Speaker 1: the phrase, he's unlike any other superstar that we've seen,
Speaker 1: and that he doesn't want anything to do with cashing
Speaker 1: in on his celebrity, you know, being an endorsement things,
Speaker 1: you know, being out there out front, he said, going
Speaker 1: out and speaking and doing the business things. There's all
Speaker 1: this free money that's waiting out there for you if
Speaker 1: you want it. And the only player he could think
Speaker 1: of in professional sports that would compare to that was
Speaker 1: Nikola Jokic. And we thought, was you know a superstar
Speaker 1: player who does not give two flips like he just
Speaker 1: very humble, doesn't want all that comes with that. And
Speaker 1: I started thinking about and I'm like, yeah, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: hit Bucky on this, like do we have anybody because
Speaker 1: Tom Brady cashed in like he you know he's and
Speaker 1: Tom Brady is emotional like you saw his emotions go
Speaker 1: up and come down. Scotty Scheffler's just like this. So
Speaker 1: I'm like, who in the football world is like that?
Speaker 1: And who doesn't really embrace the spot like my Initially
Speaker 1: I thought, oh, maybe like a Joe bro Joe Burrow
Speaker 1: wears the loud clothes like he you know, why is
Speaker 1: the Batman suit like he that is not Scotty Scheffler.
Speaker 2: I would say, Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 3: I'll say, Jalen Hurs is kind of like yeah, steady,
Speaker 3: yet he doesn't give you a lot make It's kind
Speaker 3: of mysterious in terms of what he's doing, how he operates.
Speaker 3: You've told me the stories about how he came in
Speaker 3: very early in his career with a briefcase when to
Speaker 3: work every day, got the big contract, and it doesn't
Speaker 3: appear to have changed his approach or outlook. Is not
Speaker 3: like we see him all over the screen on a
Speaker 3: bunch of different commercials whatever. He kind of just goes
Speaker 3: about doing his business. And then when you dig into
Speaker 3: his background a lot of philanthropic things is that he's
Speaker 3: kind of into. To me, he might be that undercover
Speaker 3: superstar who was okay letting his on field accolades and
Speaker 3: achievements kind of speak for themselves.
Speaker 1: I think you nailed it. I didn't even I didn't
Speaker 1: even think of that one because I was thinking of
Speaker 1: and it's not a perfect match. But Justin Herbert's like that.
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert does not want anything to do with the spotlight.
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert, you know, was very very to him in.
Speaker 2: LA, but never see him in LA.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's not a couple like random like beef
Speaker 1: jerky ads or something like something like off off brand
Speaker 1: a little bit, but you don't see him doing that stuff.
Speaker 1: He's a good looking guy. He plays in the number
Speaker 1: two media market. You would think he would just be
Speaker 1: cashing those in. I don't think he really has an
Speaker 1: interest in doing that, and I think once he's done,
Speaker 1: he'll be fishing somewhere. You won't service anywhere. Gone to November,
Speaker 1: it is like not to struggle to come up with names.
Speaker 1: You came up with a good one shows you just
Speaker 1: how rare it is for a guy to be wired.
Speaker 2: That way it is.
Speaker 3: And you know, we're in such a different time where
Speaker 3: it's hard for people to keep the main thing the
Speaker 3: main thing, and their condition from a very early age,
Speaker 3: like young athletes are conditioned. It's about the brand, and
Speaker 3: the brand is all the things that they talk about,
Speaker 3: But in reality, the brand should be your performance and
Speaker 3: your production, because the better you perform and produce, the
Speaker 3: more likely you're gonna have opportunities because everyone loves a
Speaker 3: winner and everyone is chasing excellence greatness, and so if
Speaker 3: you become a great player and you win on top
Speaker 3: of that, all those things kind of take care of themselves.
Speaker 3: And so if you focus on the things that are
Speaker 3: really important when it comes to your sport, more than
Speaker 3: likely you'll be paid back tenfold.
Speaker 1: I just I'm mad at myself for not coming up
Speaker 1: with Jalen Hurts because it's not only okay, so it's great,
Speaker 1: a great one.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you this.
Speaker 3: And it comes on the heels of like the people
Speaker 3: know you and I are both Nike guys, right, no
Speaker 3: offense to other brands, but you and are now we
Speaker 3: live in the brand, we talk, we have friends that
Speaker 3: were for the brand in those things, and so it
Speaker 3: comes on the heels of seeing the Jordan brands god
Speaker 3: what they call it Board of Greatness where they had.
Speaker 2: A trip to Greece where Jordan took all of his.
Speaker 3: Oh he took all of his indoor seas they were there,
Speaker 3: they're talking about it and Jalen Hurst was one and
Speaker 3: you see him on the thing, and so it was
Speaker 3: just front of mine being like, wow, how about them
Speaker 3: being on the front end of investing in him early
Speaker 3: and he paid him back to standout performances in Super Bowl,
Speaker 3: Super Bowl Champion. He leads a team that is dynamic
Speaker 3: and really fun to watch, allbeing in a different way.
Speaker 3: And he is catalyst, but not the traditional quarterback catalyst
Speaker 3: because people will say like, yeah, but they have all
Speaker 3: these weapons in the running game, but post a seasons
Speaker 3: with ten rushing touchdowns and a lot of what you
Speaker 3: have to do when defending him and Barkley is the
Speaker 3: run game as opposed to the passing game. It's just
Speaker 3: a counter culture approach, which is why he kind of
Speaker 3: came to my thought process.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was kind of running through like maybe if
Speaker 1: you went in the previous era of the NBA, and
Speaker 1: I couldn't even I can't even come up with one.
Speaker 1: You know, Bird was in commercials with him. He was
Speaker 1: all over commercials him and Magic.
Speaker 3: Like it's funny in a weird way. Shay yoges Alexander
Speaker 3: a little bit of that.
Speaker 2: SGA is a.
Speaker 3: Little under the radar now. He's flamboyant and flashy with
Speaker 3: his clothes and they'll seem but his game is not.
Speaker 3: I mean, he's a mid range assassin. Like it's not
Speaker 3: a lot of flash to it. He kind of focuses
Speaker 3: on it. He won the MVP, wins all these other
Speaker 3: stuff and just kind of like Cohm onto.
Speaker 1: The thing with Chef. I watched the end of the turn.
Speaker 1: It seemed hurting the turn, but I watched the end
Speaker 1: of it, and the thing that struck me was the walk,
Speaker 1: Like when you're walking up eighteen and you've got this
Speaker 1: thing wrapped up normally you'll see the guys, they'll just
Speaker 1: be looking up. You can just see him just soaking
Speaker 1: it all in. Maybe it's like you said, maybe some
Speaker 1: fist pond like kind of just just drinking it all in.
Speaker 1: He was like, I put this thing.
Speaker 2: What am I gonna do?
Speaker 1: All right? So I'll go where do I need to go?
Speaker 2: Stand?
Speaker 3: Get the check trophy, Like, just just let me know
Speaker 3: so I can do this and we can get off.
Speaker 2: Of the court.
Speaker 1: Speaking speaking of like marketing though, like for him not
Speaker 1: being you know, Nike put out the their their a
Speaker 1: little quick ad on social media, which was great. But yeah,
Speaker 1: like his kid had like this cute little Nike sweatsuit
Speaker 1: and I was like, that was now he got their
Speaker 1: money's where it's just on the kid. Like they're gonna
Speaker 1: sell somebody those little kid mini kids sweatshirts and sweatpants. Man,
Speaker 1: the sun was rocking. That was the best advertarse. That
Speaker 1: was like the best thing you've seen since the Tiger's
Speaker 1: putt with the logo just drop.
Speaker 2: Into the cup. Yeah, not design or anything like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but but I think that's a good lesson too,
Speaker 1: like a scouting lesson where you can't you can't just
Speaker 1: be narrow. In other words, you can't say I need
Speaker 1: somebody who's not emotional. I need somebody who's got a
Speaker 1: passion and fire. And I'm like, we can find great
Speaker 1: players in every sport with all different types of personality.
Speaker 1: I think that the one thing that that like with
Speaker 1: Scheffler compared to you know, with all these other guys,
Speaker 1: that they do have in common, even though he doesn't
Speaker 1: necessarily outwardly show it. It's the drive and the competitiveness.
Speaker 1: He really wants to win him. It doesn't make or
Speaker 1: break him, but he's putting in the work and the drive,
Speaker 1: and you know, there's there's that part of the wiring.
Speaker 1: I think it's wiring versus personality. I think sometimes we
Speaker 1: put lump those things together. I think those are two
Speaker 1: different things.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny yet because there are two different things.
Speaker 3: It is about the wiring and one thing is you
Speaker 3: try and find enough on the player to dig inside
Speaker 3: to get that part of it, and then we talk
Speaker 3: about the personality. I think DJ I think it's hard,
Speaker 3: and I think it's hard, like early because so much
Speaker 3: a playing we use quarterbacks so much A playing quarterback
Speaker 3: is about the leadership and the showcase position, like, it's
Speaker 3: the most market position in sports. They get the most money.
Speaker 3: I'llowed to accolades and the attention, and so to have
Speaker 3: someone who knows I'm stepping into this role that brings
Speaker 3: all of.
Speaker 2: This, but I don't want that, ye wins.
Speaker 3: I think that's a rare fine because from the time,
Speaker 3: I mean, you see it, you've been around football, youth sports.
Speaker 3: You see the dads and the quarterback dads and coming
Speaker 3: and oh we can go from this school to dad
Speaker 3: school to this school, and hey, what about me? Me?
Speaker 2: Me it. I mean, their conditioned from an early age
Speaker 2: to be very me centric. That's hard to then say, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna worry about me.
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna focus on the product and make sure
Speaker 3: that everyone around me is better and I'm not worried
Speaker 3: about the attention.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's rare. It is very rare. Man, It's very interesting.
Speaker 1: All right, I say, quick break a couple more football
Speaker 1: things want to get too, right after this? All right? Buck,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw this. There was a
Speaker 1: article it was on ESPN the other day about JJ
Speaker 1: McCarthy in about how coach Kevin O'Connell was dedicating an
Speaker 1: hour to him every week to meet in his office,
Speaker 1: even though he was on Jerser wasn't going to play
Speaker 1: his entire rookie season, and they were in a you know, look,
Speaker 1: they were chasing a super Bowl last year with the
Speaker 1: year they had in Minnesota, but koc still carved out
Speaker 1: an hour where he would meet with him and just
Speaker 1: invest in him and help him to learn and grow.
Speaker 1: And he said he thought that really helped them get
Speaker 1: up to speed now that he is the starter going
Speaker 1: into a second year without any playing time, and so
Speaker 1: one of the things then the article that stood out
Speaker 1: to me was they asked him, you know, how did
Speaker 1: you know you were comfortable with him being the guy
Speaker 1: you let Sam Donald leave. They remember they had Daniel
Speaker 1: Jones in their building last year. Let him walk away.
Speaker 1: They don't out, They don't go out and get Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 1: who would have been familiar with the system. They put
Speaker 1: all the riggs in the JJ McCarthy basket, and the
Speaker 1: one thing in there I took that I thought was fascinating.
Speaker 1: He said, I felt comfortable with JJ because of the
Speaker 1: questions he was asking.
Speaker 3: Hmm, that is so there's so many layers to the
Speaker 3: right to be able to ask good questions. You have
Speaker 3: to know what you're looking at and want to have
Speaker 3: the solutions to the problems that come up. It's not
Speaker 3: just the random surface questions that are generic, but it's
Speaker 3: questions that are due to the work that you're doing
Speaker 3: that you want to crack the code. I'll say this
Speaker 3: about JJ McCarthy, and look, it goes to the coach
Speaker 3: that you work with very closely in Jim Arbough. I've
Speaker 3: never heard someone rave and give so much a fusion
Speaker 3: praise to a player who helped him win a national
Speaker 3: title but didn't appear to play the leading role in that.
Speaker 3: But every time you hear Jim Hobart talk about JJ McCarthy,
Speaker 3: he talks about man. He reminds me of myself, ultra
Speaker 3: competitive has it. And then you also we talk about
Speaker 3: Alex Smith and I find JJ McCarthy fascinating because of
Speaker 3: I would say he has an old soul in terms
Speaker 3: of the way that he approaches it. Seeing him meditate
Speaker 3: before game under the goal post being on the cutting
Speaker 3: edge of like the meditation, the breathing, exercises, all of
Speaker 3: those things. Knowing depression being what I would say, very
Speaker 3: open and honest about like being able to control the mind.
Speaker 3: To me, he has a level of maturity that is
Speaker 3: beyond his years.
Speaker 2: And I think the.
Speaker 3: Other part that you talked about with KOC, because Kevin
Speaker 3: O'Connor was a quarterback in a backup quarterback, I think
Speaker 3: that has really helped him be really, really good with quarterbacks.
Speaker 3: I think being aware enough that I got a young
Speaker 3: quarterback that they need to develop and even though he's injured,
Speaker 3: I need to continue to developmental process. People talked about
Speaker 3: how Belichick would always meet with Tom Brady, that hour
Speaker 3: long meeting hover multiple times a week and they would
Speaker 3: go back and forth. Man, everybody wants a franchise quarterback,
Speaker 3: but few people invest in the quarterback in terms of
Speaker 3: holistically making sure that they're better. To me, this is
Speaker 3: the right player and the right coach the plan that
Speaker 3: is going to allow him to succeed very early in
Speaker 3: his career.
Speaker 1: All right, So this is the other place in my
Speaker 1: mind went. As he brought up great points there, my
Speaker 1: thought was, you have your quarterback coach, you have your
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, but let's just say, you know, and I know,
Speaker 1: you can have an assistant quarterbacks coach. You know you
Speaker 1: can have you put thro as many coaches on your
Speaker 1: staff as you want, but wouldn't it almost make sense
Speaker 1: to dedicate one like you think about having a personal trainer, Right,
Speaker 1: he's just just for me. If you have a former
Speaker 1: quarterback who's played in your system, the retired quarterback, I
Speaker 1: mean it maybe doesn't have a whole pack of a
Speaker 1: lot going on and doesn't want to doesn't want to
Speaker 1: be the full time, you know coach, But you can say, hey, look,
Speaker 1: your former quarterback, you played, you know, eight years in
Speaker 1: this league. You've been in my system. We drafted a
Speaker 1: quarterback in the second round, and he's not gonna get
Speaker 1: on the field this year. I want you to be
Speaker 1: his personal basically, his personal trainer. Like you're gonna come in,
Speaker 1: We're gonna he's gonna he's gonna sit in all our
Speaker 1: regular quarterback meetings, he's gonna go through all of our aways,
Speaker 1: going to go through all the stuff that all the
Speaker 1: other quarterbacks go. But I'm going to cart out. Instead
Speaker 1: of an hour a week, we're going to have an
Speaker 1: hour a day where you're just going to come in
Speaker 1: here an hour a day and he can fire any
Speaker 1: questions he has at you, and you can help him
Speaker 1: understand and learn this offense. You know that we're running.
Speaker 1: It seems to me, like gosh, that the money would
Speaker 1: be well invested if you did that.
Speaker 2: There's money well invested in. There's ways you can do
Speaker 2: it without putting them on the coaching staff.
Speaker 3: Practice squad is a way to do that, right, if
Speaker 3: someone who's able to do it, Hey, man, we're gonna
Speaker 3: pay you X amount of dollars to be on the
Speaker 3: private squad and your job is to help my young
Speaker 3: guy get better. So the question is that he may
Speaker 3: want to ask the starter, he'll go to you. The
Speaker 3: trick is the guy has to have enough, gotta have humility,
Speaker 3: and he's had to play enough where there's a respect
Speaker 3: factor that is there, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 3: play just enough where you've seen him play, you can
Speaker 3: respect the fact that he's had some success in this league.
Speaker 3: He's been around a long time in this league. A
Speaker 3: let's go and see you have a perfect example would
Speaker 3: be like a Chase Daniel type right played has them
Speaker 3: said that they.
Speaker 2: Chase teach my guy the program.
Speaker 3: I've heard so many people talk about the program that
Speaker 3: they all learned from Drew Brees. Right, Chase was there
Speaker 3: back up then they said that maybe Chase took it
Speaker 3: somewhere else and gave it to somebody else.
Speaker 2: Everyone is from the Chiefs.
Speaker 1: Give it to Alex Smith, and then Alex Smith gave Holmes.
Speaker 2: That's what I would want.
Speaker 3: I want someone who has the program showed me how
Speaker 3: to layout my week was my Monday, my Tuesday, my
Speaker 3: Wednesday looked like what should I be doing on the
Speaker 3: field and off the field.
Speaker 2: How do we get ready for it?
Speaker 3: At a time where the league is becoming increasingly younger.
Speaker 3: The practice wid has helped us have some older guys,
Speaker 3: but having a true mentor that is just the mentor
Speaker 3: that he gets it. He gets his jollys off of
Speaker 3: watching his young pupils succeed. I would like that, But
Speaker 3: you're right, not a lot of guys like that. It
Speaker 3: takes a very selfless person to be able.
Speaker 1: To value uh invaluable.
Speaker 3: Like you're overpaid for someone like that, like a quality
Speaker 3: mentor quarterback.
Speaker 1: You're overpaid for that. Yeah, I agree with you. So
Speaker 1: it's interesting to see how teams continue to approach developing
Speaker 1: these players. But I thought that was a fascinating article.
Speaker 1: If you haven't ready to go check it out. It's
Speaker 1: on ESPN dot Com just about how they handled JJ
Speaker 1: McCarthy's rookie season, a year in which he, you know,
Speaker 1: was unable to play due to injury. So I thought,
Speaker 1: fascinating stuff. There. Last topic for you, Buck before we
Speaker 1: get out of here, the UH the fact that all
Speaker 1: these training camps are opening up. I started thinking about this.
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, we're gonna be on TV a bunch,
Speaker 1: We're gonna be doing all, you know, talking about all
Speaker 1: these camps. And I know the Cowboys always gonna be
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, that we're always gonna talk about them. It's
Speaker 1: just is what it is. Get used to it. But
Speaker 1: I was trying to think of what is the team
Speaker 1: outside of the Dallas Cowboys that is going to be
Speaker 1: the team that we're checking in on every single day
Speaker 1: Because I've got too in mind. I was gonna. I
Speaker 1: was curious if you're going to see it the same
Speaker 1: way or if you had another team that you think
Speaker 1: will be the UH. Will be the most discussed team
Speaker 1: of the preseason and training camp before we get to
Speaker 1: the regular season.
Speaker 2: Easy one is Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1: That was one of my two.
Speaker 3: After Pittsburgh most discussed. Geez, that's tough for me after that.
Speaker 3: I just think they're obvious. Not Atlanta, not tam Maybe
Speaker 3: the Giants in a weird way only because of the
Speaker 3: silliness that may take place with Jamis and Brussell and
Speaker 3: Jackson are only because.
Speaker 1: That's a good one that's in the market. That's a
Speaker 1: big market all stuff. I'm gonna tell you right now,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 2: Oh miss, that's obvious. I messed that one up. I
Speaker 2: messed that one up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean not just I mean you've got you
Speaker 1: got Chad and Gabriel as the two rookies, and you've
Speaker 1: got Flacco as the vet. Then you've got Kenny Pickett
Speaker 1: you trade for. Like, just the quarterback room alone is
Speaker 1: going to be I mean, that is going to be
Speaker 1: every single day is going to be a recap of
Speaker 1: what happened to practice, what happened in this preseason game,
Speaker 1: over analyzing at its absolute finest, not to mention, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: who's the guy? So as Deshaun Watson standing over there,
Speaker 1: forgot he's you know, he's heard, but he's he's out there.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just that position. I think that the
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns quarterback position and the Pittsburgh Steelers team, So
Speaker 1: the quarterback for one team, and then the Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: the whole, you know, the whole shooting match with Pittsburgh,
Speaker 1: with all that they've done. I think those are gonna
Speaker 1: be the two most discussed stories. And we'll put the
Speaker 1: Cowboys in their own category because we know we're talking
Speaker 1: about them.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: No, the the s Sanders thing is fascinating. I've just
Speaker 3: never seen a situation where you have four quarterbacks that
Speaker 3: are vying for one spot. And I don't even know
Speaker 3: how you break this up with three preseason games. I've
Speaker 3: never I've never seen this, and I don't know how
Speaker 3: you ready to team. At some point you have to
Speaker 3: get the team ready to go with the starter in mind. DJ,
Speaker 3: I don't know how you do this. I don't know
Speaker 3: how you split the baby. I don't know how you
Speaker 3: We've never seen this. We've never seen this four for one.
Speaker 3: I've never I've never seen this happen.
Speaker 1: It feels to me like maybe the and we were
Speaker 1: talking about how this shakes out, but it almost feels
Speaker 1: like between Flacco and pick it, I feel like the
Speaker 1: two rookies, I just be shocked if they don't both
Speaker 1: make the.
Speaker 2: Team, Oh lose a Leetown match.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I almost I almost think you're saying, like, whoever
Speaker 1: the first starter to get hurt around the league is like, uh, Cleveland,
Speaker 1: just you pick up the phone Andrewberry picking the phones? Hey,
Speaker 1: so your starter got hurt. Yep, Yep, that's that's tough.
Speaker 1: What do you have in mind? Well, we've got Flacco
Speaker 1: and Kenny Pickett, dealer's choice dealers. Just send me something.
Speaker 1: Just send me something. One of them has got to go.
Speaker 1: So you just send me something and we'll uh and
Speaker 1: we'll work something out.
Speaker 2: Did you pick your pick like windows?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 2: Okay, you remember playing basketball the.
Speaker 3: Players shoot the free throws, but he gets hurt, So
Speaker 3: then the coach can come down to the other end
Speaker 3: and pick who he wants.
Speaker 1: To want to Yeah, Pigure got Pigure guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what that's what we're asking. That's what we're asking,
Speaker 2: whoever you want.
Speaker 3: They still do that, by the way, that's the whole thing.
Speaker 1: Because it was the opposing the opposing.
Speaker 2: Coach to pick it.
Speaker 1: And the funny thing is like you're you're in high school,
Speaker 1: like he doesn't know like the eighth guy on your bench,
Speaker 1: he didn't know who can't shoot. So it's literally the
Speaker 1: most like I would say, it's the most what are
Speaker 1: you profiling? It's the most profiling you're ever going to see.
Speaker 1: Is the opposing basketball coach picking who shoots the free
Speaker 1: throws for the hurt player. You like, see this like
Speaker 1: nerdy white guy on the bench, Like he's only on
Speaker 1: this team for one reason. It was really nervous, man,
Speaker 1: really nervous.
Speaker 3: We're going yeah, see, I'd be looking.
Speaker 1: I'd be looking at the most athletic guy and be like, man,
Speaker 1: you're the most athletic looking guy in the bench. You're
Speaker 1: not playing. The only reason possible that you could not
Speaker 1: be out on the court is because you can't not shoot.
Speaker 1: That's got to be That's who I'm picking to shoot
Speaker 1: the free throws. I'm trying to I'm trying to find
Speaker 1: the most athletic person and I'm saying, okay him, because
Speaker 1: I don't understand why you wouldn't be playing. It's a
Speaker 1: lot of strategy in that move, man.
Speaker 2: A lot of a lot of strategy, a lot of
Speaker 2: so funny.
Speaker 1: Uh look, look we touched we touched football, we touched baseball,
Speaker 1: we touched basketball, baseball, yeah you baseball. We touched it
Speaker 1: all all right, buddy, excited. We're gonna be out on
Speaker 1: the road so, uh you know, we'll have another pod
Speaker 1: I think come on Thursday. So we'll we'll keep you guys.
Speaker 1: We'll keep you guys in the mix here as we're
Speaker 1: traveling around. We're gonna make this thing work. Keep the
Speaker 1: pots coming your way.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: We appreciate all your feedback and uh we will see
Speaker 1: you next time right here on, Move to sticks.