1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:06,479 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: What's up, everybody? Welcome to move the sticks, DJ, Buck 3 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: with you buck uh Man, I've been gone. I was 4 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: in Alaska for a week, had a nice little get 5 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,119 Speaker 1: away there. Do this every year, and I got to 6 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:19,639 Speaker 1: tell you, man, I can tell you about the trip 7 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 1: in a minute. And I appreciate you soldiering on here 8 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: on the show. But I left. Gosh, it was a 9 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: week vacation, and then I got home on a start 10 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: that's like, gosh, ten days or something like that. But 11 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: this baseball team never won a game the whole time 12 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 1: I was gone. Dodgers, they didn't win the whole time 13 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 1: I was literally I spent a whole vacation in Alaska. 14 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 1: They those guys did win a single game. 15 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 2: This fine, Look it's a marathon, not a sprint. 16 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 3: We know. We just got to get a ticket, got 17 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:46,639 Speaker 3: to get in guests. Some guys not playing well right now. 18 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:49,279 Speaker 3: Some guy's not playing very well right now. 19 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: So I'm such a jinx. Though, I'm such a jinkx. 20 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: They'll win like fifteen games in a row now, I 21 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: just don't get me opportunity to take my shot. So 22 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: I had to take my shot. 23 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 3: I mean, you gotta take a shot when you feel 24 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 3: like you shot it there. But we know what it's 25 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 3: gonna be when it gets to do out. 26 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: No, hey, dude, training camps here man getting excited to 27 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: get out to see some camps. I'll be out this weekend. 28 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: Are you going anywhere this weekend? 29 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 2: What do you get? So I'm down in Florida. 30 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 3: I got Miami and Jacksonville, So I have my Saturday 31 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 3: Jacksonville on Sunday, going down. 32 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 2: Early to check out the Jaguars. 33 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 3: Their first practice is Wednesday, so I may have to 34 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 3: go check that out, see what they're doing, see if 35 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 3: they're gonna get how they're gonna use Travis Hunter. But no, DJ, 36 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 3: it's like I literally have I was going through doing 37 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 3: my calendar like I do on every Sunday, and I 38 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 3: just kind of. 39 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 2: Xed out all the weekends until February. Yeah, unavailable. 40 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: Nothing dude, dude, I've got I've got. You're gonna be 41 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: in the South. I'm gonna be in this. I'm going 42 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: to see the number one overall pick cam Ward on 43 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: Back Together Saturday, So that'll be this this coming Saturday. 44 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: I'll be in Nashville to watch cam Ward the Titans, 45 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: and then I'm gonna be at the Eagles, see all 46 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: my buddies up there on Monday, the following Monday, and 47 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: then after that zip home and I've got Chargers on Tuesday, 48 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: and then I know there's I want to break news here, 49 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: but like I do, believe, move the sticks. We're going 50 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: to take the show to Cowboys Camp sometime or in 51 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: early August, first second week August somewhere on there, so 52 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: we'll get out there, get a chance to visit all 53 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 1: the Cowboys. I'm sure we'll be out to the Rams 54 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: to see those guys as well. So busy time, but 55 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 1: a fun time, no doubt. Let's let's kick things off 56 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: here Buckets time for Hot or Not, brought to you 57 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,839 Speaker 1: by with Sabbi Hot Cloud Storage. A new A couple 58 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 1: of contracts have come down here from recently. This this 59 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,519 Speaker 1: office is in here. Look at what happened with the 60 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs is where I wanted to focus. George 61 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 1: Carloftis gets a new deal. Some people thought kind of 62 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: surprised at the money, got good money. But he gets 63 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:52,519 Speaker 1: a new deal. Tray Smith, they had got him done 64 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: as well. This offseason. So you look at, you know, 65 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,399 Speaker 1: the Chiefs and kind of how they've positioned their resources 66 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: and in terms of what they did in the draft 67 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 1: on the offensive line as well. Bucket feels like Andy 68 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: Reid has always been a line of scrimmage guy and 69 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 1: no surprise here that he continues to develop and to 70 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: pay that position. 71 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're doing. 72 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 3: It's one of the things that the Kansa the Chiefs 73 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 3: have done quietly, but it comes off of what they 74 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 3: did successfull in Philadelphia for years. They are a trenches 75 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 3: team and sometimes when we look at the Kansa the Chiefs, 76 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 3: we see all the flash and dash, the razzle dalls, 77 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 3: love Pat Mahomes and company, and we forget that they 78 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:34,679 Speaker 3: have kind of made their bones by being really good 79 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 3: on the offensive line and fairly dominant on the defense, 80 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 3: particularly when you. 81 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 2: Have Chris Jones. 82 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 3: The thing about it, you like, if you're Kansas City, 83 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 3: you drafted George Cobofts as a first round pick. He 84 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 3: has given you that complimentary playmaker that you wanted opposite 85 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 3: of Chris Jones, and he's continuing to get better. Look 86 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 3: the money, it's kind of crazy when you look at it. 87 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 3: Ninety three million dollars is a significant chuck a change, 88 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 3: but your expectation is he's going to it can continue 89 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 3: to get better and eventually, when Chris Jones phased to black, 90 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 3: George garloftis you're hoping becomes the centerpiece of the defensive lot. 91 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 92 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: I I look, I was with Andy, and I know 93 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 1: in his belief in the line of scrimmage, he's always 94 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: felt that way. I just think this team has morphed 95 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 1: over the years and they've still continued to win at 96 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 1: a very high level. Again, just one one went away 97 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: from one another championship last year. But I have I 98 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: have been kind of stuck on this one little thing, 99 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: and this is just a selfish thing, and I think 100 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 1: it's flies in the face of how we both preach 101 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: about team building in terms of you build it up front, 102 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: all those things. But I wrote down for the for 103 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,359 Speaker 1: the Chiefs m c f AM, we can get some 104 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: hats m c f A hats make the Chiefs fun 105 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 1: again like they just I want, I want, I want 106 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: that to be that even even when look, I worked 107 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 1: with the team in the division right, work with the Chargers, 108 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: call their games, so there's every people will can tell 109 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: me that I'm you know, anti Chief this, that and 110 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 1: the other. I'll admit, like when the Chiefs in the 111 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill early days and Mahomes getting on the field 112 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 1: of the days, like even if you weren't playing them 113 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,119 Speaker 1: or preparing, you know, to call a game with those guys, 114 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: like you couldn't turn away from it. It was so 115 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 1: fun to watch, like what they were doing so soon. 116 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: And you know, I know in some of that changed 117 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 1: the way teams play defense. That brought in too high, 118 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: that brought in shell coverage, that let's put a lid 119 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 1: on everything, limited explosive plays. But man, buck, they have 120 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 1: been such a dink and dunk offense. I hope that offensively, 121 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs can get some vertical aspects back 122 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: in their game. 123 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 3: You want you want some of the vertical, you want 124 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 3: some of the fundays, some of the we the right 125 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 3: on top of the defense. Yes, uh, it's coming back. 126 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 3: Xavier Worthy will give them a chance to be. But 127 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 3: I'm gonna be honest, I think part of the reason 128 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 3: why the Chiefs have not been able to have the 129 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 3: deep ball, they're different in the backfield than the way 130 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 3: that they used to be. I look, I like Isaiah 131 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 3: Pacheco and he solid, but I don't know if he's 132 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 3: the type that you have to drop the extra defendant 133 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 3: in the box to defend him. I've always felt like 134 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 3: if the Chiefs were more special in the backfield, they 135 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 3: will be able to bring back the deep ball, or 136 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 3: they will be able to punish the two deep safety 137 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 3: looks that their face and when people are really trying 138 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 3: to make them play half court basketball. 139 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you bring in, uh this draft clash and 140 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: look at what's going to happen there. Okay, first of all, 141 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: get Rashid Rice back, get him going. I don't know 142 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: that he's really your deep threat, but you bring him 143 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 1: in your first round picks a left tackle and Josh Simmons. 144 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,919 Speaker 1: You sign another tackle, Jalen Moore in free agency. The 145 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 1: hope is that, okay, now you've got you've got a 146 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 1: little more time. You can let those things develop down 147 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: the field. Jalen Royals can really run. They drafted him 148 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: in the fourth round. Worthy will be in the second year. 149 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: We know he's arguably the fastest player in the National 150 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: Football League. He is by time. So they've done things, 151 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: you know, from a protection standpoint and just a development 152 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 1: and their young guys kind of continuing to grow, including 153 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: a new piece there that they should be able to 154 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 1: get a little bit more over the top, and I'm 155 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: looking at the backfield. What they did in the seventh 156 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: round is the phone and brashot Smith who's going to 157 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: give them. He can give them some explosive plays in 158 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: the past game out of the backfield. But yeah, you know, 159 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: maybe that is it's kind of a different way of 160 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: looking at it, right, But in order to be more 161 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: vertical and explosive, we've got to be more dominant in 162 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: the backfield. Like it's kind of seems like that's a dichotomy, 163 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: but it actually makes a lot of sense. 164 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 3: Well when you think about like how the league is going. 165 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 3: Remember we've seen the renaissance of the running back, and 166 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 3: we've seen the running game come back to prominence, and 167 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 3: a lot of that was due to teams playing more 168 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 3: zone coverage and more too deep coverage, trying to take 169 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 3: away the big shots. Everyone is trying to take away 170 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 3: the big play and for his teams to drive it 171 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 3: down the field. The only way you can create those 172 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 3: big plays offensively is when you run the ball and 173 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 3: you can lure that extra defendan into the box. Now 174 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 3: you have one on one coverage and you're hoping a 175 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 3: speech to can win Xavier' worthy. 176 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 2: I know somewhere in that playbook Andy. 177 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 3: Reid wants to use those Dashawn Jackson plays the they 178 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 3: have from Philadelphia Worthy, those deep overs, those deep in 179 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 3: and out corners, those explosive plays. But the only way 180 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 3: that they're going to be able to do it got 181 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 3: to set up the run in some way. You've got 182 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 3: to make them defend the running game so you can 183 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 3: take advantage. 184 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 2: Of the one on one possibilities. 185 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. The other thing that's interesting though, you look at 186 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: the division, the three teams in your division, look at 187 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: the fronts, the pass rushers of the teams in that division. 188 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: That's six of your games right there. You got teams 189 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: with dudes who can really rush. So you know, it's 190 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:32,719 Speaker 1: it's a little bit of a challenge and being able 191 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: to protect to be able to get those shots off. 192 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: So we'll see how this this offensive line comes together. 193 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: A couple of new pieces there that'll be interesting. All right. 194 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: That was this week's Hot or Not segment, brought to 195 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: you by with Sabi Hot Cloud Storage, store more and 196 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: do more with your data. Try them for free. At 197 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: Wassabi dot com. I'm gonna split this up because there's 198 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,199 Speaker 1: a couple more football things I want to get to here, 199 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: but i've been I'm moving this up on the rundown 200 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 1: because i want to get your take on it. So 201 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: we had we just had the open, right and Scotty 202 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: Scheffer just won the open over there in Ireland believes 203 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: where they played it, and there's a lot of There 204 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: was a lot of buzz about the interviews that he 205 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: gave and about how he talked about perspective and life 206 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:15,839 Speaker 1: and how winning or losing doesn't really make him as 207 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: a person, talked about his faith, talked about his family, 208 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: very low heartbeat. There was an interview I saw with 209 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: Jordan Speif, another golfer on the tour, who talked about 210 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: how you know Scotty when he's done playing, you'll never 211 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: see him again. And he said he's unlike he made 212 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 1: the phrase, he's unlike any other superstar that we've seen, 213 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: and that he doesn't want anything to do with cashing 214 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 1: in on his celebrity, you know, being an endorsement things, 215 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: you know, being out there out front, he said, going 216 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 1: out and speaking and doing the business things. There's all 217 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 1: this free money that's waiting out there for you if 218 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: you want it. And the only player he could think 219 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,599 Speaker 1: of in professional sports that would compare to that was 220 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: Nikola Jokic. And we thought, was you know a superstar 221 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 1: player who does not give two flips like he just 222 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 1: very humble, doesn't want all that comes with that. And 223 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: I started thinking about and I'm like, yeah, I'm gonna 224 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: hit Bucky on this, like do we have anybody because 225 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 1: Tom Brady cashed in like he you know he's and 226 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: Tom Brady is emotional like you saw his emotions go 227 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:12,439 Speaker 1: up and come down. Scotty Scheffler's just like this. So 228 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, who in the football world is like that? 229 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: And who doesn't really embrace the spot like my Initially 230 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: I thought, oh, maybe like a Joe bro Joe Burrow 231 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,719 Speaker 1: wears the loud clothes like he you know, why is 232 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: the Batman suit like he that is not Scotty Scheffler. 233 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 2: I would say, Jalen Hurts. 234 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 3: I'll say, Jalen Hurs is kind of like yeah, steady, 235 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 3: yet he doesn't give you a lot make It's kind 236 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 3: of mysterious in terms of what he's doing, how he operates. 237 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:40,319 Speaker 3: You've told me the stories about how he came in 238 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:43,319 Speaker 3: very early in his career with a briefcase when to 239 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,079 Speaker 3: work every day, got the big contract, and it doesn't 240 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 3: appear to have changed his approach or outlook. Is not 241 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,559 Speaker 3: like we see him all over the screen on a 242 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 3: bunch of different commercials whatever. He kind of just goes 243 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 3: about doing his business. And then when you dig into 244 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 3: his background a lot of philanthropic things is that he's 245 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:04,199 Speaker 3: kind of into. To me, he might be that undercover 246 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:08,559 Speaker 3: superstar who was okay letting his on field accolades and 247 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 3: achievements kind of speak for themselves. 248 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: I think you nailed it. I didn't even I didn't 249 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 1: even think of that one because I was thinking of 250 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: and it's not a perfect match. But Justin Herbert's like that. 251 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert does not want anything to do with the spotlight. 252 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert, you know, was very very to him in. 253 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:25,199 Speaker 2: LA, but never see him in LA. 254 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: I mean, he's not a couple like random like beef 255 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,839 Speaker 1: jerky ads or something like something like off off brand 256 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 1: a little bit, but you don't see him doing that stuff. 257 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: He's a good looking guy. He plays in the number 258 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 1: two media market. You would think he would just be 259 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: cashing those in. I don't think he really has an 260 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 1: interest in doing that, and I think once he's done, 261 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: he'll be fishing somewhere. You won't service anywhere. Gone to November, 262 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: it is like not to struggle to come up with names. 263 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: You came up with a good one shows you just 264 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: how rare it is for a guy to be wired. 265 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 2: That way it is. 266 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 3: And you know, we're in such a different time where 267 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 3: it's hard for people to keep the main thing the 268 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 3: main thing, and their condition from a very early age, 269 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 3: like young athletes are conditioned. It's about the brand, and 270 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 3: the brand is all the things that they talk about, 271 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 3: But in reality, the brand should be your performance and 272 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 3: your production, because the better you perform and produce, the 273 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 3: more likely you're gonna have opportunities because everyone loves a 274 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 3: winner and everyone is chasing excellence greatness, and so if 275 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 3: you become a great player and you win on top 276 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 3: of that, all those things kind of take care of themselves. 277 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 3: And so if you focus on the things that are 278 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 3: really important when it comes to your sport, more than 279 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 3: likely you'll be paid back tenfold. 280 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: I just I'm mad at myself for not coming up 281 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: with Jalen Hurts because it's not only okay, so it's great, 282 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 1: a great one. 283 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you this. 284 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 3: And it comes on the heels of like the people 285 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 3: know you and I are both Nike guys, right, no 286 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,439 Speaker 3: offense to other brands, but you and are now we 287 00:12:58,000 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 3: live in the brand, we talk, we have friends that 288 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 3: were for the brand in those things, and so it 289 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 3: comes on the heels of seeing the Jordan brands god 290 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 3: what they call it Board of Greatness where they had. 291 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 2: A trip to Greece where Jordan took all of his. 292 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 3: Oh he took all of his indoor seas they were there, 293 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 3: they're talking about it and Jalen Hurst was one and 294 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 3: you see him on the thing, and so it was 295 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 3: just front of mine being like, wow, how about them 296 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 3: being on the front end of investing in him early 297 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 3: and he paid him back to standout performances in Super Bowl, 298 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 3: Super Bowl Champion. He leads a team that is dynamic 299 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 3: and really fun to watch, allbeing in a different way. 300 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 3: And he is catalyst, but not the traditional quarterback catalyst 301 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 3: because people will say like, yeah, but they have all 302 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,959 Speaker 3: these weapons in the running game, but post a seasons 303 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 3: with ten rushing touchdowns and a lot of what you 304 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 3: have to do when defending him and Barkley is the 305 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 3: run game as opposed to the passing game. It's just 306 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 3: a counter culture approach, which is why he kind of 307 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 3: came to my thought process. 308 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was kind of running through like maybe if 309 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 1: you went in the previous era of the NBA, and 310 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: I couldn't even I can't even come up with one. 311 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 1: You know, Bird was in commercials with him. He was 312 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: all over commercials him and Magic. 313 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 3: Like it's funny in a weird way. Shay yoges Alexander 314 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 3: a little bit of that. 315 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 2: SGA is a. 316 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 3: Little under the radar now. He's flamboyant and flashy with 317 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 3: his clothes and they'll seem but his game is not. 318 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 3: I mean, he's a mid range assassin. Like it's not 319 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 3: a lot of flash to it. He kind of focuses 320 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 3: on it. He won the MVP, wins all these other 321 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 3: stuff and just kind of like Cohm onto. 322 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: The thing with Chef. I watched the end of the turn. 323 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: It seemed hurting the turn, but I watched the end 324 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: of it, and the thing that struck me was the walk, 325 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: Like when you're walking up eighteen and you've got this 326 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: thing wrapped up normally you'll see the guys, they'll just 327 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: be looking up. You can just see him just soaking 328 00:14:57,880 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: it all in. Maybe it's like you said, maybe some 329 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: fist pond like kind of just just drinking it all in. 330 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: He was like, I put this thing. 331 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 2: What am I gonna do? 332 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: All right? So I'll go where do I need to go? 333 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 2: Stand? 334 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 3: Get the check trophy, Like, just just let me know 335 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 3: so I can do this and we can get off. 336 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 2: Of the court. 337 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: Speaking speaking of like marketing though, like for him not 338 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: being you know, Nike put out the their their a 339 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: little quick ad on social media, which was great. But yeah, 340 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: like his kid had like this cute little Nike sweatsuit 341 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: and I was like, that was now he got their 342 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: money's where it's just on the kid. Like they're gonna 343 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: sell somebody those little kid mini kids sweatshirts and sweatpants. Man, 344 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: the sun was rocking. That was the best advertarse. That 345 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: was like the best thing you've seen since the Tiger's 346 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: putt with the logo just drop. 347 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 2: Into the cup. Yeah, not design or anything like. 348 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, but but I think that's a good lesson too, 349 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: like a scouting lesson where you can't you can't just 350 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: be narrow. In other words, you can't say I need 351 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: somebody who's not emotional. I need somebody who's got a 352 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: passion and fire. And I'm like, we can find great 353 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: players in every sport with all different types of personality. 354 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: I think that the one thing that that like with 355 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: Scheffler compared to you know, with all these other guys, 356 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: that they do have in common, even though he doesn't 357 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: necessarily outwardly show it. It's the drive and the competitiveness. 358 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: He really wants to win him. It doesn't make or 359 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: break him, but he's putting in the work and the drive, 360 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: and you know, there's there's that part of the wiring. 361 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: I think it's wiring versus personality. I think sometimes we 362 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: put lump those things together. I think those are two 363 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: different things. 364 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny yet because there are two different things. 365 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 3: It is about the wiring and one thing is you 366 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 3: try and find enough on the player to dig inside 367 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 3: to get that part of it, and then we talk 368 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 3: about the personality. I think DJ I think it's hard, 369 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 3: and I think it's hard, like early because so much 370 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 3: a playing we use quarterbacks so much A playing quarterback 371 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 3: is about the leadership and the showcase position, like, it's 372 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 3: the most market position in sports. They get the most money. 373 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 3: I'llowed to accolades and the attention, and so to have 374 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 3: someone who knows I'm stepping into this role that brings 375 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 3: all of. 376 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:10,719 Speaker 2: This, but I don't want that, ye wins. 377 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 3: I think that's a rare fine because from the time, 378 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:17,120 Speaker 3: I mean, you see it, you've been around football, youth sports. 379 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 3: You see the dads and the quarterback dads and coming 380 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 3: and oh we can go from this school to dad 381 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 3: school to this school, and hey, what about me? Me? 382 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:28,199 Speaker 2: Me it. I mean, their conditioned from an early age 383 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 2: to be very me centric. That's hard to then say, oh, 384 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna worry about me. 385 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 3: I'm just gonna focus on the product and make sure 386 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 3: that everyone around me is better and I'm not worried 387 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 3: about the attention. 388 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's rare. It is very rare. Man, It's very interesting. 389 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: All right, I say, quick break a couple more football 390 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: things want to get too, right after this? All right? Buck, 391 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw this. There was a 392 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: article it was on ESPN the other day about JJ 393 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:04,880 Speaker 1: McCarthy in about how coach Kevin O'Connell was dedicating an 394 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: hour to him every week to meet in his office, 395 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: even though he was on Jerser wasn't going to play 396 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: his entire rookie season, and they were in a you know, look, 397 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: they were chasing a super Bowl last year with the 398 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: year they had in Minnesota, but koc still carved out 399 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: an hour where he would meet with him and just 400 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 1: invest in him and help him to learn and grow. 401 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 1: And he said he thought that really helped them get 402 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 1: up to speed now that he is the starter going 403 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 1: into a second year without any playing time, and so 404 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: one of the things then the article that stood out 405 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:35,199 Speaker 1: to me was they asked him, you know, how did 406 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: you know you were comfortable with him being the guy 407 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 1: you let Sam Donald leave. They remember they had Daniel 408 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 1: Jones in their building last year. Let him walk away. 409 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:44,479 Speaker 1: They don't out, They don't go out and get Aaron Rodgers, 410 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 1: who would have been familiar with the system. They put 411 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: all the riggs in the JJ McCarthy basket, and the 412 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: one thing in there I took that I thought was fascinating. 413 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: He said, I felt comfortable with JJ because of the 414 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 1: questions he was asking. 415 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 3: Hmm, that is so there's so many layers to the 416 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 3: right to be able to ask good questions. You have 417 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 3: to know what you're looking at and want to have 418 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 3: the solutions to the problems that come up. It's not 419 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 3: just the random surface questions that are generic, but it's 420 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 3: questions that are due to the work that you're doing 421 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 3: that you want to crack the code. I'll say this 422 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 3: about JJ McCarthy, and look, it goes to the coach 423 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 3: that you work with very closely in Jim Arbough. I've 424 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 3: never heard someone rave and give so much a fusion 425 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 3: praise to a player who helped him win a national 426 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:38,679 Speaker 3: title but didn't appear to play the leading role in that. 427 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 3: But every time you hear Jim Hobart talk about JJ McCarthy, 428 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 3: he talks about man. He reminds me of myself, ultra 429 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 3: competitive has it. And then you also we talk about 430 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 3: Alex Smith and I find JJ McCarthy fascinating because of 431 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 3: I would say he has an old soul in terms 432 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 3: of the way that he approaches it. Seeing him meditate 433 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 3: before game under the goal post being on the cutting 434 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 3: edge of like the meditation, the breathing, exercises, all of 435 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:10,400 Speaker 3: those things. Knowing depression being what I would say, very 436 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 3: open and honest about like being able to control the mind. 437 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 3: To me, he has a level of maturity that is 438 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 3: beyond his years. 439 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 2: And I think the. 440 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 3: Other part that you talked about with KOC, because Kevin 441 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 3: O'Connor was a quarterback in a backup quarterback, I think 442 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,679 Speaker 3: that has really helped him be really, really good with quarterbacks. 443 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,400 Speaker 3: I think being aware enough that I got a young 444 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 3: quarterback that they need to develop and even though he's injured, 445 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 3: I need to continue to developmental process. People talked about 446 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 3: how Belichick would always meet with Tom Brady, that hour 447 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 3: long meeting hover multiple times a week and they would 448 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:51,360 Speaker 3: go back and forth. Man, everybody wants a franchise quarterback, 449 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 3: but few people invest in the quarterback in terms of 450 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 3: holistically making sure that they're better. To me, this is 451 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 3: the right player and the right coach the plan that 452 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 3: is going to allow him to succeed very early in 453 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 3: his career. 454 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 1: All right, So this is the other place in my 455 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: mind went. As he brought up great points there, my 456 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 1: thought was, you have your quarterback coach, you have your 457 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, but let's just say, you know, and I know, 458 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: you can have an assistant quarterbacks coach. You know you 459 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: can have you put thro as many coaches on your 460 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: staff as you want, but wouldn't it almost make sense 461 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: to dedicate one like you think about having a personal trainer, Right, 462 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: he's just just for me. If you have a former 463 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: quarterback who's played in your system, the retired quarterback, I 464 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 1: mean it maybe doesn't have a whole pack of a 465 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 1: lot going on and doesn't want to doesn't want to 466 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 1: be the full time, you know coach, But you can say, hey, look, 467 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: your former quarterback, you played, you know, eight years in 468 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 1: this league. You've been in my system. We drafted a 469 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: quarterback in the second round, and he's not gonna get 470 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 1: on the field this year. I want you to be 471 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: his personal basically, his personal trainer. Like you're gonna come in, 472 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 1: We're gonna he's gonna he's gonna sit in all our 473 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: regular quarterback meetings, he's gonna go through all of our aways, 474 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 1: going to go through all the stuff that all the 475 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 1: other quarterbacks go. But I'm going to cart out. Instead 476 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 1: of an hour a week, we're going to have an 477 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: hour a day where you're just going to come in 478 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 1: here an hour a day and he can fire any 479 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,239 Speaker 1: questions he has at you, and you can help him 480 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 1: understand and learn this offense. You know that we're running. 481 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: It seems to me, like gosh, that the money would 482 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 1: be well invested if you did that. 483 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 2: There's money well invested in. There's ways you can do 484 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 2: it without putting them on the coaching staff. 485 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 3: Practice squad is a way to do that, right, if 486 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 3: someone who's able to do it, Hey, man, we're gonna 487 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 3: pay you X amount of dollars to be on the 488 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 3: private squad and your job is to help my young 489 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 3: guy get better. So the question is that he may 490 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 3: want to ask the starter, he'll go to you. The 491 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 3: trick is the guy has to have enough, gotta have humility, 492 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:43,679 Speaker 3: and he's had to play enough where there's a respect 493 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,479 Speaker 3: factor that is there, you know what I mean, Like 494 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 3: play just enough where you've seen him play, you can 495 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 3: respect the fact that he's had some success in this league. 496 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 3: He's been around a long time in this league. A 497 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 3: let's go and see you have a perfect example would 498 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:00,439 Speaker 3: be like a Chase Daniel type right played has them 499 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 3: said that they. 500 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 2: Chase teach my guy the program. 501 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 3: I've heard so many people talk about the program that 502 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 3: they all learned from Drew Brees. Right, Chase was there 503 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 3: back up then they said that maybe Chase took it 504 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 3: somewhere else and gave it to somebody else. 505 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 2: Everyone is from the Chiefs. 506 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: Give it to Alex Smith, and then Alex Smith gave Holmes. 507 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 2: That's what I would want. 508 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 3: I want someone who has the program showed me how 509 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 3: to layout my week was my Monday, my Tuesday, my 510 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 3: Wednesday looked like what should I be doing on the 511 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 3: field and off the field. 512 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 2: How do we get ready for it? 513 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 3: At a time where the league is becoming increasingly younger. 514 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 3: The practice wid has helped us have some older guys, 515 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 3: but having a true mentor that is just the mentor 516 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 3: that he gets it. He gets his jollys off of 517 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,159 Speaker 3: watching his young pupils succeed. I would like that, But 518 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,679 Speaker 3: you're right, not a lot of guys like that. It 519 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:59,360 Speaker 3: takes a very selfless person to be able. 520 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: To value uh invaluable. 521 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:05,400 Speaker 3: Like you're overpaid for someone like that, like a quality 522 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 3: mentor quarterback. 523 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: You're overpaid for that. Yeah, I agree with you. So 524 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 1: it's interesting to see how teams continue to approach developing 525 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: these players. But I thought that was a fascinating article. 526 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: If you haven't ready to go check it out. It's 527 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 1: on ESPN dot Com just about how they handled JJ 528 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: McCarthy's rookie season, a year in which he, you know, 529 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 1: was unable to play due to injury. So I thought, 530 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:28,199 Speaker 1: fascinating stuff. There. Last topic for you, Buck before we 531 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 1: get out of here, the UH the fact that all 532 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,919 Speaker 1: these training camps are opening up. I started thinking about this. 533 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, we're gonna be on TV a bunch, 534 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:36,919 Speaker 1: We're gonna be doing all, you know, talking about all 535 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 1: these camps. And I know the Cowboys always gonna be 536 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: the Cowboys, that we're always gonna talk about them. It's 537 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: just is what it is. Get used to it. But 538 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:44,919 Speaker 1: I was trying to think of what is the team 539 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,199 Speaker 1: outside of the Dallas Cowboys that is going to be 540 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 1: the team that we're checking in on every single day 541 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: Because I've got too in mind. I was gonna. I 542 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 1: was curious if you're going to see it the same 543 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: way or if you had another team that you think 544 00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 1: will be the UH. Will be the most discussed team 545 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 1: of the preseason and training camp before we get to 546 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: the regular season. 547 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:05,120 Speaker 2: Easy one is Pittsburgh. 548 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 1: That was one of my two. 549 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 3: After Pittsburgh most discussed. Geez, that's tough for me after that. 550 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 3: I just think they're obvious. Not Atlanta, not tam Maybe 551 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 3: the Giants in a weird way only because of the 552 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,439 Speaker 3: silliness that may take place with Jamis and Brussell and 553 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 3: Jackson are only because. 554 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 1: That's a good one that's in the market. That's a 555 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 1: big market all stuff. I'm gonna tell you right now, 556 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a Cleveland Browns. 557 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 2: Oh miss, that's obvious. I messed that one up. I 558 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 2: messed that one up. 559 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean not just I mean you've got you 560 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 1: got Chad and Gabriel as the two rookies, and you've 561 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,199 Speaker 1: got Flacco as the vet. Then you've got Kenny Pickett 562 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 1: you trade for. Like, just the quarterback room alone is 563 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: going to be I mean, that is going to be 564 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: every single day is going to be a recap of 565 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 1: what happened to practice, what happened in this preseason game, 566 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: over analyzing at its absolute finest, not to mention, oh yeah, 567 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 1: who's the guy? So as Deshaun Watson standing over there, 568 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 1: forgot he's you know, he's heard, but he's he's out there. 569 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just that position. I think that the 570 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns quarterback position and the Pittsburgh Steelers team, So 571 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 1: the quarterback for one team, and then the Aaron Rodgers 572 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,959 Speaker 1: the whole, you know, the whole shooting match with Pittsburgh, 573 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 1: with all that they've done. I think those are gonna 574 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: be the two most discussed stories. And we'll put the 575 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: Cowboys in their own category because we know we're talking 576 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: about them. 577 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 578 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,679 Speaker 3: No, the the s Sanders thing is fascinating. I've just 579 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 3: never seen a situation where you have four quarterbacks that 580 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 3: are vying for one spot. And I don't even know 581 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,400 Speaker 3: how you break this up with three preseason games. I've 582 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 3: never I've never seen this, and I don't know how 583 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,439 Speaker 3: you ready to team. At some point you have to 584 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 3: get the team ready to go with the starter in mind. DJ, 585 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 3: I don't know how you do this. I don't know 586 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 3: how you split the baby. I don't know how you 587 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 3: We've never seen this. We've never seen this four for one. 588 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 3: I've never I've never seen this happen. 589 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 1: It feels to me like maybe the and we were 590 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,679 Speaker 1: talking about how this shakes out, but it almost feels 591 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: like between Flacco and pick it, I feel like the 592 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,400 Speaker 1: two rookies, I just be shocked if they don't both 593 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 1: make the. 594 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 2: Team, Oh lose a Leetown match. 595 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:30,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, I almost I almost think you're saying, like, whoever 596 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: the first starter to get hurt around the league is like, uh, Cleveland, 597 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 1: just you pick up the phone Andrewberry picking the phones? Hey, 598 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: so your starter got hurt. Yep, Yep, that's that's tough. 599 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 1: What do you have in mind? Well, we've got Flacco 600 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 1: and Kenny Pickett, dealer's choice dealers. Just send me something. 601 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:48,919 Speaker 1: Just send me something. One of them has got to go. 602 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 1: So you just send me something and we'll uh and 603 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: we'll work something out. 604 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,679 Speaker 2: Did you pick your pick like windows? 605 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:54,919 Speaker 3: Uh? 606 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 2: Okay, you remember playing basketball the. 607 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 3: Players shoot the free throws, but he gets hurt, So 608 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,199 Speaker 3: then the coach can come down to the other end 609 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 3: and pick who he wants. 610 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 1: To want to Yeah, Pigure got Pigure guy. 611 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what that's what we're asking. That's what we're asking, 612 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:12,360 Speaker 2: whoever you want. 613 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:17,879 Speaker 3: They still do that, by the way, that's the whole thing. 614 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 1: Because it was the opposing the opposing. 615 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 2: Coach to pick it. 616 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 1: And the funny thing is like you're you're in high school, 617 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 1: like he doesn't know like the eighth guy on your bench, 618 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,719 Speaker 1: he didn't know who can't shoot. So it's literally the 619 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 1: most like I would say, it's the most what are 620 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: you profiling? It's the most profiling you're ever going to see. 621 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: Is the opposing basketball coach picking who shoots the free 622 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 1: throws for the hurt player. You like, see this like 623 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 1: nerdy white guy on the bench, Like he's only on 624 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: this team for one reason. It was really nervous, man, 625 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: really nervous. 626 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 3: We're going yeah, see, I'd be looking. 627 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 1: I'd be looking at the most athletic guy and be like, man, 628 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 1: you're the most athletic looking guy in the bench. You're 629 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 1: not playing. The only reason possible that you could not 630 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: be out on the court is because you can't not shoot. 631 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 1: That's got to be That's who I'm picking to shoot 632 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 1: the free throws. I'm trying to I'm trying to find 633 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: the most athletic person and I'm saying, okay him, because 634 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 1: I don't understand why you wouldn't be playing. It's a 635 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 1: lot of strategy in that move, man. 636 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 2: A lot of a lot of strategy, a lot of 637 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 2: so funny. 638 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 1: Uh look, look we touched we touched football, we touched baseball, 639 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 1: we touched basketball, baseball, yeah you baseball. We touched it 640 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 1: all all right, buddy, excited. We're gonna be out on 641 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 1: the road so, uh you know, we'll have another pod 642 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,959 Speaker 1: I think come on Thursday. So we'll we'll keep you guys. 643 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 1: We'll keep you guys in the mix here as we're 644 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: traveling around. We're gonna make this thing work. Keep the 645 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 1: pots coming your way. 646 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 2: Uh. 647 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 1: We appreciate all your feedback and uh we will see 648 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 1: you next time right here on, Move to sticks.