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Speaker 1: The Realship Dave chappelleover. He told me, say, you know,

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Speaker 1: why are you turning out all that money? God sent

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Speaker 1: my belly full. That was the reallyship I've heard from somebody.

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Speaker 1: It turned out fifty million, crazy.

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Speaker 2: All my life, grinding all my life, sacrifice, hustle, petic Price.

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Speaker 2: One slice got the pronuc geist, the swap all my Life,

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Speaker 2: Poppy grinding all my life, all my life, and grinding

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Speaker 2: all my life, sacrifice hustle, patic Price. One Slice got

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Speaker 2: the bronicct Geist, the squat all my Life, Poppy, grinding

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Speaker 3: Hello, Welcome to another episode of Club Sha Shay. I

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Speaker 3: am your host, Shining Sharp. I'm also the propriud of

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Speaker 3: Club Sha Sha stopping by for conversation on the drink

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Speaker 3: today the real talk of New York. He's a street legend,

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Speaker 3: a key figure in the world of hip hop, a

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Speaker 3: certified platinum selling rapper, chart topping artist, a natural entertainer,

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Speaker 3: A member of the Passport Boys, Inc. He defines the

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Speaker 3: word loyalty that from the iconic group.

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Speaker 4: Creator.

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Speaker 3: You can't see me dance wave your hand here. He is,

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Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen, Tody yayo, what's up?

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Speaker 4: Yay yo, what he do? Yo?

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Speaker 1: He made that sound so good. It's about time I

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Speaker 1: get some love. Man, get some problem you de third

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Speaker 1: some love?

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Speaker 4: Bro.

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Speaker 1: So long, it's been a long journey in it's industry, man, Bro.

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Speaker 3: We brought out the best for you. Thank This is

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Speaker 3: my Kangyak Shae by Laportier, a platinum Bso, p let

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Speaker 3: me know what you think. I know you're gonna keep

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Speaker 3: it a buck with me.

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Speaker 4: Mmmm.

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Speaker 1: That tastes good, man, I can't front. Fifty got some

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Speaker 1: coniac too. Branson, y'all got some good ship. Maybe I

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Speaker 1: need to collabor something because this ship is some good

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Speaker 1: ship right there.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate that.

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Speaker 3: And I know, see, I know you know something about

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Speaker 3: Brown too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know about the brown liquor. Fifty got the Branson.

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Speaker 1: You've always been a fan of Hennessy and like right now,

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Speaker 1: I was just telling my friend, I don't know if

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Speaker 1: the liquor is watering down, but it don't taste like that.

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Speaker 1: Like I don't know if these look at brands is

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Speaker 1: getting cheap or something. But everybody was complaining about the

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Speaker 1: Don Julio in the street. He's complaining like something just

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Speaker 1: wasn't right. And when I was overseas, liquor was tasting different.

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Speaker 3: Din well, I mean obviously, and it's native. I mean

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Speaker 3: seemingly things taste better over there, yeah, than it does

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Speaker 3: You think there's something to it. You think the market,

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Speaker 1: I think overseas, like when you go to like a

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Speaker 1: only you know, and the sodas are real small. You

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Everything is like more kind of

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Speaker 1: more healthy. They don't have no Captain crunch, frosted flakes, right,

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Speaker 4: Like added process preserved it.

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Speaker 1: They don't. They don't have it over there. So that's

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Speaker 1: the healthy thing. And then you know there's no gun

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Speaker 1: like sweeten and stuff like that, but that's like in

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Speaker 1: probably the bad neighborhood. But they clean that up, like

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Speaker 1: how Trump trying to clean up America right now? You

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Speaker 1: you know, right, so, and he was saying that he

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Speaker 1: and all that.

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Speaker 4: Damn.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because the streets is crazy right now, especially

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Speaker 1: you know where we're from, New York City.

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Speaker 4: Man, thanks for pulling up the club. Sh how you

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Speaker 4: being man?

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Speaker 1: I'm good man. Just came back from overseas where we

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Speaker 1: went to Estonia. We went strike Estonia, Paris, Poland we

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Speaker 1: came out with Chris Brown in Manchester, which was that's

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Speaker 3: Man I've been seeing. I've been seeing snippets of it

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Speaker 3: on social media.

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Speaker 1: Shelter shelter, Chris Brown. He did a new Michael Jackson.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what he did, that performance he did in

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Speaker 1: Oh man, I was talking to like Curtis Battle because

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Speaker 1: he did production for eminem and fifty and the whole

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Speaker 1: just talking about one Laed screen was like forty million

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Speaker 1: got to understand the money he's spending on production, the

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying absolutely.

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Speaker 1: Millions of dollars, So a lot of the money that

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Speaker 4: Perform, to make sure everybody knows this is a that's

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Speaker 1: Out met Life Stadium. What was that? I think eighty

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Speaker 1: thousand two nights in a row. Never been done by

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Speaker 1: no artists, Ain't it was raining. I was like, man,

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Speaker 1: this guy is the new. So for me to be

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Speaker 1: on stage with him fifty you know, Uncle Murder was there.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean. To come out on stage

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Speaker 1: part of the show. Like that was big. We came

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Speaker 1: to Manchester, he sold that out like three days in

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Speaker 1: a row. So, yeah, he is the new Michael Jackson. Man,

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Speaker 1: I gotta give you to him.

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Speaker 3: Man, I can believe it. You're from south side.

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Speaker 1: You make a queen, Yes, south to south side queen.

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Speaker 4: So is there is there a north side?

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Speaker 1: You make a go there's a north side? So why

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Speaker 1: we only hear about south side because that's where we're from.

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Speaker 4: Ain't nobody north side?

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Speaker 1: No north side is lit? You up side as you

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Speaker 1: could cook, we would considered Jim Master J right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: high running MC so north Side l L. They was,

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Speaker 1: you know, big in the rap game before. Yeah, south

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Speaker 1: Side was even put up right, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Those are the guys we look up to. Obviously fifty

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Speaker 1: he was signing jem Master J rest in peace to him,

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Speaker 1: you know, his mirrors right on Jamaica Avenue. But you know,

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Speaker 1: like we looked at I looked at run DMC to

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Speaker 1: me was my best rap group of all time.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they kind of gotten kicked off and look at Brooklyn.

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Speaker 3: Brooklyn got bigger, Jay Hole, Kine Cam, Queen's got LLL

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Speaker 3: fifty nods, Nikki the Bronx.

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Speaker 4: We know about the Booget down Bronx Cad.

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Speaker 1: Shout the fat Joe Man.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I can't forget about get Crack.

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Speaker 3: So it's Queen's the best borough because I was in

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Speaker 3: queens Bridge with Steve Style and I was with just

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Speaker 3: nod Bro Jungle and got an opportunity to see down there,

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Speaker 3: so I didn't get a chance to go over there.

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Speaker 4: What was that?

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Speaker 1: What was that line? Now said a while go Queen's

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Speaker 1: run y'all niggas, asked Russell Simmons. Was that that was

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Speaker 1: you look at Ren DMC when it's Christmas time, men

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Speaker 1: Hollis Queen's. I remember having a boom box. I had

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Speaker 1: Haitian parents. I had to plug it up. They never

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Speaker 1: box equalized, always that spoiled kid. He had batteries, but

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Speaker 1: we had it plugged up to my mom's porch. We

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Speaker 1: that tape till the tape pop, damn. And you gotta

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Speaker 1: think about it. What was the hit? They was the

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Speaker 1: first rappers to be on MTVP right what they had

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Speaker 1: a song with bon Jovi? What was that?

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Speaker 4: No, that was Aerosmith.

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Speaker 1: That was you know, I don't know too much about

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Speaker 1: the rock and roll. Yeah, yeah, I don't know, but

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Speaker 1: I look at like Queen's. We the pioneers, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean? Even when you look at Marley Ma

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Speaker 1: Marley mal he put out Big Daddy came. So you know,

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Speaker 1: me and my friend we always have this Brooklyn Queen's argument.

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Speaker 1: But Queen's come on, Marley mal put out King and

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Speaker 1: Kane is like when you look at people always say, Yo,

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Speaker 1: what's your top five rappers? Whatever are we talking about?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 1: Because if we're gonna go to eighties, what you're gonna

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Speaker 1: go rock him? Rap We Kane, KRS One, Slick Rick.

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Speaker 3: Damn you win all lyricis, you win all lyricists I'm

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Speaker 3: talking about. I'm talking about the wordplay is exemplary. I

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Speaker 1: Put L in that. Of course l L had hits

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Speaker 1: from the eighties thousand to the two thousands. You know,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's just what was it was? Was he

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Speaker 1: signed to death Jam when Jake took over. I think

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Speaker 1: that's what Connor made it a little funny for him, right,

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Speaker 1: And I love LLL. That's like, hands down one of

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Do you feel L get the credit he deserves? Nah?

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Speaker 4: Hell no, I agree with you.

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Speaker 1: Come on, Carls ride by with the booming system. The

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Speaker 1: Brooklyn Queens do well. Going back to Cali, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: the nineties to the two. Hell no, they don't give

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Speaker 4: Why.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, because I think.

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Speaker 3: Drug rap game is more about image, okay, and he

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Speaker 3: doesn't fit the image of what a rappers should be

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Speaker 3: or look like because he was in Shave, he had.

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Speaker 4: The fat gold Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I just feel like executive wise, okay, Okay, when he

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Speaker 1: DMX on the label at that time too, Them niggas

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Speaker 1: wasn't feeling that because at that time, no disrespect to Jay.

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Speaker 1: He sold a million ten ten records, I think a

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Speaker 1: million apiece, but DMX went diamond, right l L. He

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Speaker 1: toll know, he don't get enough props from the eighties

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Speaker 1: he had hay Lover. Yeah, he was in Shave, he

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Speaker 1: had the image. Yeah, he needs one of them. We

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Speaker 1: gotta do top ten and top twenty instead of top five.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of hard, Yeah, it is, especially when you're

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Speaker 3: talking about you talking about fifty years of rap. Let's

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Speaker 3: just say, for the sake of art, we're gonna just

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Speaker 3: take fifty years of rap and you're gonna you're gonna

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Speaker 3: win it all the way down and say, okay, give.

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Speaker 4: Me your top five.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. That's hard to do. I like

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Speaker 1: Kumo d I like step Sistnic Salt and Pepper was

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Speaker 1: the first Nikki and Kim. You know, those are the

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Speaker 1: girls that Spinderella. I was still mad at them when

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Speaker 1: they got the other Spinderella, the original Spinderella, right, because

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Speaker 1: back then the DJ was as important as the rapper,

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Speaker 1: Like Public Enemy had terminated as right, Jim Master Jay

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Speaker 1: and then you had Jazzy Jeff and Uh as well

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Speaker 1: as other DJs you know just can't name it. But

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Speaker 4: It's good to be right.

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Speaker 3: You're from Your parents are immigrants, Yeah, they Haitian right

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Speaker 3: right before I get it that, let me ask you

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Speaker 1: That's a funny question. You said governments, you know from

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Speaker 1: watching scoff Face. That was one of my favorite movies.

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Speaker 1: I could have been Tony Montana, but you got French Montana. Right.

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Speaker 1: But I went with to Tony Yale because I was

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Speaker 1: And then you know, when we first got on fifty,

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Speaker 1: be like, Yo, what would you call yourself? Like what

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Speaker 1: I guess Tony Yoe and that that ished up. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because I love the block. That's one thing about me.

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Speaker 1: we was on the block because it just felt like

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Speaker 1: what I mean now the stuff that's going on now

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Speaker 3: But so being the son of immigrants, what was your

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Speaker 1: Well, my parents, my mom's coming from a I think

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Speaker 1: it's called moon By, moon By, Yeah, something like that.

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Speaker 1: I forgot. She's from that town. My dad is from

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Speaker 1: to you know, every Haitian that you're mak and they

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Speaker 1: but they go to Brooklyn first. Then from Brooklyn we

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Speaker 1: You know, you get a better life. People come from

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Speaker 1: these places, Like you said, you come from a small

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Speaker 1: they come here and they work. That's all they know

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Speaker 1: cool to be a Haitian, a African. But as a kid,

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Speaker 4: Can you be lazy at an immigrant?

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Speaker 1: Nah? Nah? I never I've never met a lazy A

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Speaker 1: and can't go to Haiti. Ask me why why they

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Speaker 1: might kidnap me out there? The whole gangs control the city.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you got this dude barbecue and you know, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's one of them dudes that you know they talk about.

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Speaker 1: But they What I like about it is when you

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Speaker 1: and they raided the federal reserve. They took all Haiti's goal.

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Speaker 1: So when you go to Haiti, it's nice beaches, nice water,

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Speaker 4: But that's not the image.

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Speaker 3: That's not how Haite is portrayed though, because as you mentioned,

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Speaker 3: you know it's controlled by the gangs. You couldn't go

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of violence going on in Haiti. So

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Speaker 3: the portrayal that we as American is that we get

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but people can't eat, there's nothing to do, you

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Speaker 1: can't get closed. Like my mom sends close to Haiti.

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Speaker 1: When she came, we're sending clothes. I give her clothes

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Speaker 1: and stuff, and you sent it there. But it's like

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Speaker 1: it's like they forced in a position where the government

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah clean.

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Speaker 1: You know, So you can't just we can't just blame

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Speaker 1: it on the violence. I feel like when you see

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Speaker 1: people shot, little kids shooting people. Switches. Where the switches

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Speaker 1: a gun, a handgun into a ouzi? How is that

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Speaker 1: even possible? Yeah, you know, back in the day, a

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Speaker 1: couple of years, back in the days, you heard it.

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Speaker 1: You got shot ten times. You know, he's still alive.

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Speaker 1: The bullets and the amminition like that. Now they got

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Speaker 1: ladies got hit. It's crazy because New York, Now, New

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Speaker 1: York is ridiculous. It's just like la these gangs everywhere.

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Speaker 1: You got bloods, you got crips, you got g I

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Speaker 1: don't even go out if I got to go somewhere

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Speaker 1: yeah you got if you gotta take it, you gotta

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Speaker 1: take that too. I'm chilling a Hampton somewhere with my lawyer.

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Speaker 1: Man shout out to my lawyer. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So, so give me a typical day. What was a

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Speaker 3: typical day like for you growing up? Your parents are immigrants.

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Speaker 3: What they're talking to you about that they're trying to

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Speaker 4: You do the right thing, stay out of trouble. So

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Speaker 4: what was a typical day in your household?

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Speaker 1: Like, I feel like if your parents, if your parents

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Speaker 1: are like Haitian that you're making it's love, but it's

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Speaker 1: always tough love. Yeah, so it's not I love you,

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Speaker 1: I love you. I felt like I always look for

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Speaker 1: that for my whole life because my parents never did it.

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Speaker 1: And I love my moms. It was always tough love.

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Speaker 1: My moms will go to work, Christmas Thanksgiving, food on

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Speaker 1: the table. That's how hatity it is. You go to school,

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Speaker 1: get good grades, If not get on your knees, you're

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Speaker 1: gonna get beat Like, those are the kind of beatings

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Speaker 1: I don't open your fridge. It's because we got so

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Speaker 1: many beatings back in the day. Yeah, it wasn't like that.

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Speaker 1: It's all about respects broe, you know, and pray to

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Speaker 1: God every day because my parents they worked hard. They

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Speaker 1: Don't tell nobody though.

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Speaker 4: Yes, but damn you you like that eminem character m

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Speaker 4: was badly so.

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Speaker 1: Look banks and fifty and then went to the criminal school.

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Speaker 1: At the point seventy two was good. Now shout out

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Speaker 1: a bad school. My parents don't want me to go there.

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Speaker 1: Haitian parents, they'll send you. They'll spend their last for

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Speaker 1: Catholic school church. I turned to my criminal life. Like

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Speaker 1: eighth ninth grade. From first to seventh grade, we used

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Speaker 1: You get dropped off on the corner a block. Eighth grade,

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Speaker 1: gotta go from Laurelton, from Rosedale to south side Jamaica Queens.

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Speaker 1: I gotta take the Q eighty fives, right, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean? And I had to stop at Springfield

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Speaker 1: High School. Back then, Springfield High School you heard about

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Speaker 1: High School in Jackson was like the schools like, oh shit,

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Speaker 1: you don't want to go Yeah, you don't want to

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Speaker 1: But that's later on. So I got on a public

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Speaker 1: oh shit, I wasn't exposed to that way my parents.

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Speaker 1: I'm on the bus like this shit is crazy, you know.

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Speaker 1: And I'm sitting on the back of the bus. If

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Speaker 1: I had to ride to I think American with crowd,

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Speaker 1: Get off with I thought I was good, yo, I

434
00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,480
Speaker 1: was preserved. I had Haitian parents. They don't play. You

435
00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:48,639
Speaker 1: gotta be in this when that light go on, nigga

436
00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,640
Speaker 1: that you come in the house, don't leave the porch.

437
00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:53,720
Speaker 1: I couldn't do what that. My parents wasn't let me

438
00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,359
Speaker 1: just run the streets like everybody else was.

439
00:19:56,560 --> 00:20:00,399
Speaker 4: Do you understand how what a starter jacket it was

440
00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:00,840
Speaker 4: back then?

441
00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,879
Speaker 1: Say Shay, not listening, bro I went from being on

442
00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:07,720
Speaker 1: the yellow bus yes, to not seeing crime to getting

443
00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,440
Speaker 1: on the public bus and now I'm seeing the realities

444
00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:10,880
Speaker 1: of the world.

445
00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,520
Speaker 4: So you saw the reality. So what made you possess

446
00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:14,520
Speaker 4: you to wear that jacket?

447
00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:16,159
Speaker 1: Because I didn't think I was gonna get robbed. I

448
00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,600
Speaker 1: was in lot loud, okay, okay. As soon as I

449
00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:21,879
Speaker 1: got to my stop it was snowing that day. I

450
00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,520
Speaker 1: never forgot. I think that changed my life and made

451
00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:24,880
Speaker 1: me look.

452
00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:26,159
Speaker 4: At you, made you come up out of and the

453
00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:27,160
Speaker 4: snow used short.

454
00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,600
Speaker 1: Sleeve on the snow crowd all the way home. Jeez,

455
00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,960
Speaker 1: thirty eight. I never forgot that. Right on America basis

456
00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:39,480
Speaker 1: like put snug noose on you, snugne fourteen years walking

457
00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,239
Speaker 1: from the bus stop, Damn Yale had to walk all

458
00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:43,480
Speaker 1: the way roch Stale no coke.

459
00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:45,320
Speaker 4: Then you you should have said, man, come on, bro,

460
00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:46,240
Speaker 4: I'm just a kid coming on.

461
00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:46,520
Speaker 1: Bro.

462
00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:48,280
Speaker 3: He had a thirty eight. I'm like you ain't do

463
00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,680
Speaker 3: no talking. You just talking, but play you're supposed to

464
00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:52,399
Speaker 3: the man. Come on, man, my mom worked hard for.

465
00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,359
Speaker 1: This cause back in the days, remember a ball and

466
00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:54,720
Speaker 1: the starter.

467
00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:56,960
Speaker 3: A lot of people out here because yes, that's what

468
00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,800
Speaker 3: I'm saying, that's what that's what going through my mind

469
00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,639
Speaker 3: thinking about it. The eight ball jacket to start a jacket,

470
00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:04,879
Speaker 3: and you like you said, okay, I was on the

471
00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:05,360
Speaker 3: yellow bus.

472
00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:06,240
Speaker 4: Everything was cool.

473
00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:08,480
Speaker 3: But once I started getting on the city bus, man,

474
00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,040
Speaker 3: I'm seeing all this going on, and I'm thinking, man,

475
00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:12,240
Speaker 3: what was that you to do that.

476
00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:14,760
Speaker 1: My mom's and them. I wanted the jackets. Jeez.

477
00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:17,760
Speaker 4: No, I ain't say not get the jacket, but you

478
00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:19,480
Speaker 4: know certain situations where you care.

479
00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,080
Speaker 1: I should have thrown it out, but I wasn't thinking

480
00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:22,520
Speaker 1: it out. I just had to start. I wouldn't think

481
00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:27,480
Speaker 1: nobody's gonna school. Yeah I want. I did, and I

482
00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:29,840
Speaker 1: had that start, and they got me for it, damn.

483
00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,440
Speaker 1: Because back then, come on a balls and start as man.

484
00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:33,840
Speaker 4: Everybody wanted them.

485
00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,080
Speaker 1: Companies should pay some of them fillings.

486
00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,640
Speaker 4: Like yeah yeah, yeah. People got to live without.

487
00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,639
Speaker 1: It because yo, we make the coaching bro a lot

488
00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,000
Speaker 1: of stuff that we was wearing Avery rexes, even Avery rexes.

489
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,720
Speaker 1: I remember dudes was getting shot for those members only

490
00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:52,080
Speaker 1: members only pel a'slo yep. So it's like, man. And

491
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:53,520
Speaker 1: then when I went to high school, I went to

492
00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,280
Speaker 1: high school on Jamaica Avenue, right where Jim Master j

493
00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,520
Speaker 1: Studio is at. They changing that in the condos now,

494
00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:00,399
Speaker 1: but it was the college in right, so that was

495
00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 1: the block where everybody meet that and that's when I

496
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,480
Speaker 1: just just nothing but crime up there.

497
00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:10,920
Speaker 4: You're the youngest of three. Yeah, so you close your

498
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:12,000
Speaker 4: your assembly, y'all close.

499
00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:15,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I would say, you would say I would

500
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,200
Speaker 1: saying with me and my brother, mare, me and my sister,

501
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:17,560
Speaker 1: we are.

502
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,200
Speaker 3: Right when she mad at you cause you dim because

503
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,680
Speaker 3: I read that your your mom wouldnt let your sloster

504
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:24,160
Speaker 3: to go outside because she kissed the boy.

505
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,680
Speaker 4: Did she see them? Did did they see it or

506
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:28,480
Speaker 4: you diamer out?

507
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,000
Speaker 1: No? No, No, my next door neighbor, rest of miss people.

508
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:32,440
Speaker 1: She was one of them neighbors that could slap you

509
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,000
Speaker 1: in the back of the head. Yes, she was always

510
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,480
Speaker 1: in the window for mischief. Yeah, so rest of peace

511
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,399
Speaker 1: to her. So she's seen it, and she told my parents,

512
00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,399
Speaker 1: and yeah that's how community parent. Yeah, they have you

513
00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 1: in the house for twenty years. I never seen my

514
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:46,359
Speaker 1: sister again.

515
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,200
Speaker 3: So were your parents. So in other words, you're telling

516
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,159
Speaker 3: the story. Your parents were really strict.

517
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 1: Listen, I remember you know how you remember back in

518
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:57,439
Speaker 1: the days when you used to go on bike missions

519
00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:58,960
Speaker 1: and they used to go to the good neighborhoods to

520
00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,480
Speaker 1: steal bike from the rich kids and all that. My

521
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,720
Speaker 1: brother and my brother went to do that. He got caught.

522
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,920
Speaker 1: He got caught by the fireman. Though they brung his

523
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 1: ass back to the crib. My brother got his ass

524
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 1: worn out in front of the fireman. Like Haitian parents

525
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 1: don't play. Jamaican parents don't play anything from that island.

526
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:22,240
Speaker 4: They don't play. I read your dad. He didn't want

527
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:23,400
Speaker 4: you to hang out on the boulevard.

528
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,719
Speaker 1: He oh, never, never, because he knew what was up there.

529
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:27,639
Speaker 1: One three four on got Brewer. It was you know,

530
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,800
Speaker 1: that's the arena. You know everybody up there sold drugs.

531
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,200
Speaker 1: That's what everybody did. So it was nothing good up there.

532
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:36,879
Speaker 1: You know, you had gambling spots up there, you had

533
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,840
Speaker 1: the alley fiends up there, winos. He went up there

534
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 1: to play lotto. So when I started hustling, I still

535
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 1: had to worry about him because he would chase me

536
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,120
Speaker 1: off the block. Come on, man, Papa, do that chase

537
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 1: Get out of here, Get out of here, Haitian crazy voice,

538
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 1: get out of.

539
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:53,639
Speaker 4: Here, like pop you blow you blow it.

540
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 1: I just had to run. What I'm gonna do it

541
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 1: It was it wasn'tybody, it was I'm chasing give you

542
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 1: about Dukes was chasing me off the block. Man Haitian

543
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 1: parents because he knew what was going on.

544
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:11,640
Speaker 3: But you know what happens normally when parents don't want

545
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 3: a child to do something, it pushes that child in

546
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,879
Speaker 3: that direction. If the parents says, I don't want you

547
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:18,680
Speaker 3: to see that young lady, or I don't want you

548
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:20,879
Speaker 3: to see that guy, what did it do? It's almost

549
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,440
Speaker 3: like Romeo and Juliet. It brings them closer. It makes

550
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,239
Speaker 3: them want to do it even more. I think, did

551
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 3: that make you want to?

552
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 1: I think the ass whippings is what always saved somebody,

553
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:32,159
Speaker 1: Like like when my parents divorced, Yeah, and my pops

554
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,119
Speaker 1: went to Florida. That gave me lee way for the bullshit. Now,

555
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 1: my mom's gotta.

556
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 4: Work every day, right, she can't keep out with you.

557
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,920
Speaker 1: She's she's working at general hospital. She's a Haitian lady,

558
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 1: working twenty four hours a day. I'm hardly seeing her. Now.

559
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 1: This gives me lee way to go bag up in

560
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:47,880
Speaker 1: the house because if she find that shit, she doesn't

561
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 1: throw drugs in the garbage. She found a gun, she's

562
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 1: throwing that shit in the garbage. She don't get you

563
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So my pops left, there was

564
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 1: no more. It was more leeway the father figure.

565
00:24:58,720 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 4: He was going.

566
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 1: Now, now I don't got nobody chase me on the block.

567
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,159
Speaker 1: So now my mom's at work and I'm on the

568
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 1: block all.

569
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 3: Day, right, you know, is there anything Do you think

570
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 3: there's anything your father could have said? Do you think

571
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,959
Speaker 3: there's anything your mother could have said that it make

572
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 3: you not want to hang out on the block because

573
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:15,639
Speaker 3: you saw what was happening. I'm sure you saw some

574
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:17,640
Speaker 3: of your boys get scooped up. I'm sure you saw

575
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:19,640
Speaker 3: some of your boys get laid down. But that still

576
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:20,440
Speaker 3: wasn't enough.

577
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 1: To deter you. No, because I feel like people turn

578
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 1: into the environment. So like you got little kids in

579
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,920
Speaker 1: the Bronx, that twelve year old, thirteen year old killers,

580
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:32,400
Speaker 1: they're turning onto what the environment is they're forced to right. Meanwhile,

581
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 1: my kids don't got to go through that. You know,

582
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,159
Speaker 1: got them in a nice neighborhood. And that's what it is.

583
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,119
Speaker 1: I think it's the environment, because people turn into what

584
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 1: the environment is. Now for all them dudes was doctors

585
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:43,399
Speaker 1: on the block. Maybe I would have been a doctor,

586
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 1: but they was all drug dealers and at the end

587
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,880
Speaker 1: of the day, they was putting packs in little Nigga's hands.

588
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 1: Niggas was sixteen fifteen. When you really think about it,

589
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 1: like here take this, but they you know, there's no

590
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 1: rules to the game. It's my responsibility. I took the

591
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 1: pack because you start off as a worker, then you

592
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 1: work your way up having your own shit. Now you're

593
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 1: caught up in the game, right because he's taking thirty

594
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 1: off a pack twenty five with a pack, you couldn't

595
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 1: just get your own work around my way, it was structure,

596
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 1: and then I had to work my way up to

597
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:16,879
Speaker 1: get my own work. Now I'm official drug dealer. Now

598
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 1: I don't have no job, no W two forms, nothing.

599
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's just best.

600
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 3: To get a job now, right, Police, but you don't

601
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:27,919
Speaker 3: pay their taxes because we don't want them to come

602
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 3: back and say, oh, you have a W two But.

603
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 1: He done pay you this back in the day. But

604
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 1: I just feel like the kids that it's the environment.

605
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 1: Like right, when you look at New York City, it's

606
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:41,920
Speaker 1: a lot of gangs. Man, It's just like La. You

607
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,640
Speaker 1: can't discredit New York and say, oh yo, the gangs start.

608
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 1: The little kids don't want to hear that. They straight

609
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 1: up stone col killers.

610
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 4: How important was school to you.

611
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 3: It had to be very important because they put you

612
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 3: in a Catholic school for your for the first grade

613
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,159
Speaker 3: to seventh grade, so obviously it was very important. It

614
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,360
Speaker 3: seems to me that your parents the way in order

615
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 3: for them to to live their dream through you was education.

616
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 1: Yes, definitely, but it was important to me until you know,

617
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 1: I told you, I started getting into the streets right

618
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 1: and then it.

619
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 3: Was like, if your parents don't divorce, your father's there.

620
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 3: Now you got that system of checks and balance because

621
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 3: you're saying your mom is working, she's working fourteen, sixteen

622
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:23,959
Speaker 3: hours a day.

623
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 4: She can't keep an eye on Tony like she's like,

624
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:30,679
Speaker 4: she's like she want to or should. Pops is in Florida.

625
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 3: He ain't got no eyes, He ain't got that kind

626
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,120
Speaker 3: of connect now, and so now you just got free

627
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 3: reign if your dad stays in the picture.

628
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 4: But we're having a different conversation.

629
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,640
Speaker 1: Definitely one hundred percent, because I wouldn't have lee way

630
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 1: to be outside like that. Bagging up and then three

631
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 1: and a half grams turned into one hundred grams and

632
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,959
Speaker 1: now I want to get half a bird. Now now

633
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,360
Speaker 1: I want to do this, and now I can bag

634
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 1: up because my Mom's not there, right, you know what

635
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 1: I mean, she's not there. I can go kitchen table

636
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 1: and bag up a whole bunch of work. She's working

637
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 1: all day.

638
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,440
Speaker 4: Were you ever scared that while you bagging up she

639
00:27:59,520 --> 00:27:59,959
Speaker 4: might come home?

640
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 1: Nah? I knew her schedule, knew her schedule. Yeah, I

641
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: knew her schedule.

642
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,879
Speaker 4: All that being said, you dropped out of school in

643
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:11,400
Speaker 4: the tenth grade, yeah, fifteen?

644
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 1: Yes? Why drugs just negative shit around school?

645
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 4: School, school and selling drugs. They don't go down. They're

646
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 4: not synonymous.

647
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think any kind of crime in school is

648
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 1: not synonymous. Man's just it just doesn't go together. You know,

649
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 1: it's a terrible thing. I don't try to glorify it

650
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 1: because I made it this far and I got an

651
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 1: opportunity to see the world. Like I'm not as rich

652
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 1: as a lot of the rappers, but I got a

653
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 1: billion dollars worth for experiences, and I feel like that's

654
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 1: what life is about, right, And sometimes in this game,

655
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 1: you feel like it's the devil's playground. You know, a

656
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 1: lot of bullshit goes on behind the scenes because I

657
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 1: always want to be in control of the man that

658
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 1: got the money. They're always gonna kiss as. So you know,

659
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 1: like I love fifty, it's never fifty. Sometimes it's niggas

660
00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: around them because and in fifties, a good dude. This

661
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 1: dude's like you said that that'll never get a job.

662
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 1: One of my friends, he caught a murder. He forget,

663
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 1: he's forgiven for it because God forgive everybody. But he

664
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 1: got a job. You know a lot of dudes you

665
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 1: know to jail time. Now you got a job, because

666
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 1: where you're gonna get a job at without fifty? So

667
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 1: I love fifty fifties. You know, I love Banks Banks,

668
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: my dude Banks. You know, we're brothers. So I remember

669
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: us being in basements rapping when it was just the

670
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 1: core g unit fifty c Lloyd Banks, Tony Al you know,

671
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 1: game dope rapper, but he was from La Buck dope rapper,

672
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 1: but he was from Cashville. And when you look at

673
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 1: Buck situation that happened when I went to jail.

674
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 4: You said, your mom threw your mom threw away one

675
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 4: hundred grams.

676
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 1: Yep in a garbage. I told her wasn't mine, so

677
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: she helped me find it. Then I went and got it.

678
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 4: How you go, lie, Tom, You couldn't let that pas.

679
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:02,719
Speaker 4: You could't let that way.

680
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 1: No one hundred grams back then, Hell no, find that

681
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 1: that can't go in the garbage. That's money, right, Yeah,

682
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 1: That's how we looked at it. That's why I'm glad

683
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 1: I'm out of that life. Man. I had to left

684
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 1: that behind and the luck of music.

685
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 3: Is there anything your mom? If your dad is gone,

686
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 3: he's in Florida. If your mom sits you down and

687
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 3: say she's not calling you Tony, she's calling your Marvin,

688
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 3: you're breaking your mom's heart. You're gonna end up in jail,

689
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 3: but you're gonna end up dead. Is there anything your

690
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 3: mom could have said to get you away from that lifestyle?

691
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 3: Or had you gotten so ingrained in it? That's what

692
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 3: you knew and there was no turning back.

693
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 1: The worst part has been calling after you get locked

694
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 1: up through your old lass. You know, when you get

695
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 1: locked up. My mom's come gave me a Pennsylvania Fazilian

696
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: drugs like me and my man gj rest in peaces. Moms,

697
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: they came to pa We got caught with a little

698
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 1: bit of shit because you know, we was done for

699
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 1: the day, but we was from out of town, right,

700
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 1: so they came and got us. So there's nothing like

701
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 1: a motherly love. Man. Yeah, it's just the worst part

702
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 1: is calling you know, because that's what a lot of

703
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: these kids don't understand. Your mom's you're breaking our heart.

704
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: Your dad, Yo, I'll come see you in jail. I'll

705
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 1: send you some commissary. It's more of a tough guy

706
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 1: thing with us. But the moms, you break her heart,

707
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 1: And that's that's real up, that feeling making that called mom,

708
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: I'm locked up, or Mom, I gotta put the house.

709
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 1: I done jump bail and have bail Bondsman, given our

710
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: heart attack, I was even with this rap shit like

711
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 1: my mom's crab got shot twenty two times two o

712
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 1: seven beeping with henchmen back in the days, right, So

713
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 1: for me, that shit is like real shit, like they

714
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 1: could have been not here, They could have been unlive

715
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: Luckily the level of the house, there's levels, people's upstairs.

716
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 1: If it was one floor, somebody would have been unlived

717
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 1: in that damn. And that's like with this rap game.

718
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 4: Shit.

719
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 3: Did your mom ever say I told you see your

720
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 3: head hard, you won't listen, but one day you will.

721
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 4: Son.

722
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 1: Did your mom ever tell you I told you so?

723
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: Or she was just like she was always there for you.

724
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 1: My mom's to say, I'm a vaca ball. She start

725
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 1: cursing and crayon close bacaball. I think it means idiot, right,

726
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 1: strike idiot. My crayle ain't that good, But vacka baum

727
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 1: means like idiot all kinds of shit. She just start

728
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: cursing in Haitian, you know, but she'll always come get me.

729
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 1: That's one thing about that lady. God bless her, you know.

730
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 1: And she's still around my pops. You know, he passed away.

731
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 1: I think twenty eighteen. My mom's still around. Loved my

732
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 1: mom's bro. And you know it's crazy, she's still live

733
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 1: in the house they got shot up, because that's how

734
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 1: Haitian people is. I don't care. I'm gonna be in

735
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 1: my house till I die.

736
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 4: Wow, you don't want to go nowhere else.

737
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, that rap beef can get real serious. You know,

738
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 1: it can get real serious. That's why I say, when

739
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: you have Joe on here and caller, then you talk

740
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 1: about the Calus situation. I could never be mad at Kla.

741
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 1: Kala was just being loyal to Joe. I was being

742
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,719
Speaker 1: loyal to fifty you know. Wow, So but sit can

743
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 1: get rial. The only thing you see with Joe and us,

744
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: we could be friends.

745
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 4: Joe.

746
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 1: I need that deal with volume up too. The thing

747
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 1: with Joe is like it never got crazy where, it

748
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: never got physical, right, and nobody ever got shot and killed.

749
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 1: Rest in peace to my man Lody Mack. He got

750
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: killed in a situation. My mom's crib got shot up, right,

751
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: you know, my mom's crib silent to sit, get real

752
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: bullet through stoves and like people got to understand being

753
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 1: signed with like a Kanye West or Jay Z it

754
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: is chill mode. Everybody's cool. We signed with fifty cent

755
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 1: that got problems with everybody, and we talking about street

756
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: niggas world, Jimmy Henchman praying this goals or history.

757
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 3: Dude, did he have beef with them or they had

758
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 3: beef with him? Because it's two different things to me,

759
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 3: because it seemed like with fifty fifty was like done

760
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 3: with that life.

761
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 4: But they keep trying to bring fifty back.

762
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 1: It's just always been drama, like gave Like I'm gonna

763
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: tell you, like I believe hip hop police was like

764
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 1: damn near created because of us. Like hip hop police

765
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 1: used to pull me over. You used to be like yo,

766
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,879
Speaker 1: you number one on the list. Yo. Yo at that point, wow,

767
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 1: because we had so much drama that it was like

768
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: Jeanne it was, Yo, why they never out Jeane is

769
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: being from the club. Niggas had bulletproof trucks like my

770
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 1: bulletproof truck. I remember I had some people from Hot

771
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 1: ninety seven, the radio station, and they was like, yo,

772
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 1: you know you got bullet holes in my truck. And

773
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 1: that shit was normal life than me because when I

774
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: came home, I came from from a dream. I'm a

775
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: fifties house, his grandmother house, mistal peace to his grandma

776
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 1: and his grandfather. And it's a little house, not much room.

777
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 1: It was all a dream. Were listening to some of

778
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 1: giv Should I trying on the stereo, and then I

779
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 1: come home, I go to jail. I'm hearing him on

780
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 1: the radio every day. We're blowing up off the mixtapes

781
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 1: and he blew up. It's all a dream still to me.

782
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 1: I'm here with shit in the shop. I'm gonna shame

783
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,359
Speaker 1: shape shit like it's a dream to me. So I'm

784
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: more appreciative than a lot of other people.

785
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 3: Right, did you ever worry about like getting robbed, because,

786
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 3: like you know, this is a cash This is a

787
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 3: cash business, bro.

788
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 4: So you know, and when you give off, you take

789
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 4: the money you put it in.

790
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: People know you got money on listening when you got it,

791
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 1: like fifty telling you my first Jacob watch. I got

792
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: a Jacob on now too, this five times on listen,

793
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 1: So Jacob watch. He gave me my first Jacob watch,

794
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 1: and fifty said, yo, never don't forget niggas, blow your

795
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,320
Speaker 1: head off of this shit. See, fifty was he was

796
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: ahead of his time. That's what people didn't understand. He

797
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: was ahead of his time, meaning he was he because

798
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: I'm only two, he only two years older than me, right,

799
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 1: but he was ahead of his time even when he

800
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 1: was outside of twelve. That had him more advanced than

801
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 1: a lot of niggas. He was ahead of his time.

802
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 1: He always was a market in genius. He always was smart.

803
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 1: When he gave me the watch, he said, oh, don't

804
00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: forget a nigga, blow your head off of that. That

805
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: shit stuck in my head like, oh shit, yeah.

806
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 4: Well you should have learned your lesson with that damn

807
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 4: starter jacket.

808
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: Yeah I did. That was it. That's true to start

809
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: a jacket back in the days.

810
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 4: So you know, what they'll do for Jacob.

811
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 1: No, but for the Jacob. You had to remind me

812
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: because a lot of rappers, you know that that Jeury.

813
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: You know some you know, they feel like they'll die

814
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,320
Speaker 1: for their chain. Look at rest in Peace, P and

815
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: b Rock, Look you know they got him. You at

816
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:29,720
Speaker 1: the waffle house in South Central. Look at Pop Smoke,

817
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 1: you know you in Beverly Hills, but Hooper Streak down

818
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,320
Speaker 1: the block. It's a sad thing. But for me, I

819
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 1: don't care.

820
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 4: About ju hell now isn't sure?

821
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, give me a nice car, jump out of that

822
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: with nothing on. I don't care about it because I

823
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,879
Speaker 1: feel like, at a certain point, when you're an artist,

824
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 1: your face is a jewel. Yeah, so niggas like nipsey

825
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: Us who face was a jew Pop Smoke face was

826
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 1: a jew P and b Rock your faces. You you

827
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 1: don't even got to wear a Jeury. Niggas know who

828
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 1: you are, and if you don't wear it, niggas ain't

829
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 1: gonna do shit to you. They don't care. But now

830
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,959
Speaker 1: Roberts know, Oh yo, that's a rich ad millie. Oh shit,

831
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,399
Speaker 1: that's all that's a dig. Yeah, that's worked one hundred

832
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: and fifty. Oh shit, yo, yo, that's a dum yo yo.

833
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: He got And you gotta think you got niggas in

834
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: the hood that where they lived is cheapen than with

835
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: that watch you.

836
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:20,879
Speaker 4: Got on, Oh for sure.

837
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 1: And it's like this everywhere Philly, Chicago, New York. Because

838
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 1: I just for me, I'm to the point in life

839
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 1: where I just don't hang out in certain places. I'd

840
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 1: rather hang out with my lawyer or something, go to

841
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: dinner or go somewhere. I don't need to bring a pistol.

842
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: But fifty was telling us that years ago, like, yo,

843
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 1: you don't need to go here. Yo, you don't need

844
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 1: to go there. And we used to have hip hop

845
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 1: Police honers. They used to jump us out the car.

846
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,800
Speaker 1: Government name grab us, spot o waist. Hip Hop Police

847
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: was on its because we was the most dangerous rap

848
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 1: group in the world. Don't let these these the industry

849
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 1: for you because they always knocked g unit because of

850
00:37:56,320 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 1: what we've done. We got down with Eminem, my favorite

851
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 1: white boy, to be mad at him. We got down

852
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 1: with Doctor D a West Coast nigga. We left New York. Yeah,

853
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 1: that was the best deal ever, you know, and we

854
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,280
Speaker 1: took over the industry. We sold video games. We so clothes,

855
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 1: we so sneakers, and we definitely sold records, yes, you know,

856
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,399
Speaker 1: and a lot of people try to take shit away

857
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,320
Speaker 1: because we was the most hated. We was the niggas

858
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 1: that was like, y'all events, your parties, your white parties.

859
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 1: This fifty always been like that. So it made us

860
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 1: like that. We always had to move militants, bulletpoof trucks,

861
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 1: vessus cold on. It was a time where man, it

862
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: was guns everywhere. Man, I ain't gonna lie to you.

863
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 4: Isn't that a very tough way to live.

864
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: It's very tough to this day. I watched my back

865
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: because it's just being an artist is a tough thing.

866
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:52,479
Speaker 4: But damn, you don't have peace. You don't have peace.

867
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 4: You say you will have to watch your back.

868
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 1: I think being a rapper you never have your piece, man, Damn.

869
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 1: I just think that's just the life of a rapper.

870
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 1: You're never gonna have your piece. It's gonna be obstacles,

871
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,240
Speaker 1: it's gonna be women, it's gonna be drugs, it's gonna

872
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 1: be gambling, addiction, car addiction, jewelry, addiction, keeping up with

873
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 1: the Joneses. See for me, I don't care about all

874
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: that shit, because it's all about image. That shit all fake.

875
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 1: I pray to God every day he makes sure I'm good.

876
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 1: The real ship. Dave Chappelle ever, he told me, said,

877
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: you know why you turn out all that money? God

878
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 1: sent my belly full. But I was the realest shit

879
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,800
Speaker 1: I've heard from somebody. So for me being in rooms

880
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: with Mike Tyson, Dave Chappelle, I'm up listen, I'm like

881
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: a sponge. I remember Tyson telling me it's a party.

882
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,280
Speaker 1: My first time meeting Mike Tyson. Everybody's in there, serena venus.

883
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 1: I'm like this, I'm gonna from the hood, like yo,

884
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,959
Speaker 1: I can't believe I'm in a party with these people,

885
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 1: you know. And Mike Tyson said, expandard rise and s yeay.

886
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 1: Some caviar came and I never forgot that. That's what

887
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:02,240
Speaker 1: made me. Caviar s card gold caviar pancakes in Paris.

888
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 1: Them experiences for me is good. I'm good, I'm straight. Yeah,

889
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: I feel good being We just was in Italy partying

890
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 1: with the owner of one of the owners of Ray

891
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 1: Band and the owner of Dosegabona. Wow, you know, I

892
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: don't been in parties with Wesley Snipes. I'm like this

893
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 1: from New Jack City.

894
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, Nigato.

895
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 1: I'm thinking of New Jack City when I see this Nigga.

896
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 1: We somewhere Aspen, We somewhere Film Festival, Kardashians in there.

897
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 1: We're performing with Jim Carrey. I'm like, Yo, this is

898
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 1: Jim Curry. Oh shit, I mean Samuel Jackson. Oh shit,

899
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 1: I'm in these rooms. To me, that's worth for a

900
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: billion dollars. Man, I could be going tomorrow and that's

901
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:46,800
Speaker 1: I'll take that with you.

902
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,800
Speaker 4: So how do you you drug game? So how do

903
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 4: you get into the rap game?

904
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 1: Oh? Well, my man Fat Shah, he used to be

905
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 1: a DJ, so he had one of them houses that

906
00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 1: everybody can go too smoke because Pops wasn't tripping out

907
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 1: to RP. That's the big g. And we used to

908
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 1: just be there when the block was hot. We used

909
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 1: to run there and we used to wrap on the

910
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 1: mic in the basement because you know, in Queen's it

911
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 1: was all about the mixtape. You know, we grand Master Vic,

912
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 1: DJ Dog, Tom Blazing, Amazing, Duick. We had all kind

913
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: of DJs, so that was like the shit to go

914
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:20,839
Speaker 1: to the Hole in the world parties. They might get

915
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 1: shot up, but that's back in the days. My man

916
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 1: has to bring eight ten crates. So back in the days,

917
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 1: those are to me. I love DJs now, but those

918
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: computer shit is different. Party gets shot up, my man

919
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: fast shot. We still gotta stay there and get his

920
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:35,879
Speaker 1: ten crates because he's gonna die of his crazy. Resting

921
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: peace to my niggas. Yea, you know what I'm saying.

922
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: We started like that. We used to be in the basement.

923
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 1: We'll rap over Wu Tang shit. We used to listen

924
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: to Joe Jealous, want Envy. We used to listen all

925
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 1: kind of shit. My man was a dope DJ. Everybody

926
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,280
Speaker 1: knew him in the hood, so that's when we started

927
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,439
Speaker 1: rapping and playing around. I started rapping with him. First

928
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,320
Speaker 1: we had little group rags, the riches, and then you know, fifty.

929
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 1: You know, we had lost boys popping in our hood.

930
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:00,800
Speaker 1: Rest in peace, freaky top that was. That was like

931
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: the first niggas, freaky towers popping in the hood. Littlest

932
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 1: boy's being around. Fifty had you know, to deal with

933
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 1: Jim Master j But fifty was to get money at

934
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 1: the Benz and all that, So that's how he got

935
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,320
Speaker 1: to deal with Ja because he was like seventeen with

936
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 1: the Bens Damn, you know what I'm saying. So Jay

937
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,240
Speaker 1: looking at him, like, who this nigga he box running

938
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 1: around the hood? Fifty was a crazy nigga, like everybody's

939
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: smoking drink, he running around the projects.

940
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 2: I liked.

941
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 1: So with that, it was a different nigga, Like he

942
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: knocked niggas out in the hood. So yeah, he had

943
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: a name, you know what I'm saying, because he boxed,

944
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But he had to deal

945
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 1: with Ja. So from Jay, from there he went to Columbia.

946
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 1: So I used to be with him all the time, Like, Yo,

947
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 1: this nigga. Fifth is ill. Like Fifth was in the basement.

948
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 1: I ain't even you know. He was a hustler. I

949
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 1: ain't know him for rapping, but he started rapping. Shit

950
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,879
Speaker 1: was crazy. His first album he did, Powered a Dollar,

951
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 1: still one of my favorite albums.

952
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 3: Wow, why does it seem Why does it seem like

953
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,320
Speaker 3: it's a natural progression from somebody that comes off the

954
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 3: street and they go straight to.

955
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 4: The rap game.

956
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 1: Remember when Biggie said you have a slinger crack rock

957
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 1: or you got a wake a jump shot es Uh Yeah,

958
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,919
Speaker 1: I mean it was like music was an outlet like people,

959
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 1: music is a wait for somebody.

960
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 4: You know.

961
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: It was our get away from the hood. You're running

962
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 1: away from gun police, you running away from narcotics, you're

963
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: running away from you know, bullshit going in the hood.

964
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 1: You know, It's just like it was our escape. And

965
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 1: we started doing the mixtapes and people accepted. That's why

966
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 1: Shelter Allerg and the fans they rock with us because

967
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 1: what we did was solid. We had the streets. You know,

968
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 1: back in the days people wanted to beat up bootleggers.

969
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 1: The bootleggers was our friends, right, That's what I was saying.

970
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 1: With fifty of marketing. People used to come up to

971
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: your fifth, I'm gonna beat up this boot legger. He

972
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 1: got your shit, and Fifth be like, why are you

973
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 1: doing that? They're the marketing team looking at him like

974
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 1: he turned out deals for millions. I used to be

975
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: in these meetings like and why are you doing that?

976
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 1: Not Fifth, that's not not yeah, that's not to deal.

977
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 1: Riding around in nineteen, I don't know what here is.

978
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 1: Ben was we had a buick with no AC, we

979
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 1: got vests and guns on why you just turned down

980
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 1: one point five million. Nah Yao, that's not the deal.

981
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,359
Speaker 1: Was always smart, always ahead of his time. That's why

982
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: people be mad.

983
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 2: Yo.

984
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 1: You always mention fifty fifty is the reason a lot

985
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: of shit happened. But you know how shit is now.

986
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 1: You can't even post a picture or say nothing good

987
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 1: about a nigga.

988
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 4: You O don't feel Oh you're glazing you.

989
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: Watching fifty cars. You're glazers.

990
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 4: Yo.

991
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 1: You know he was gonna say fifty your things. But

992
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,280
Speaker 1: you know he was the reason a lot of nigga's

993
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 1: lives changed. And I'll never take away nothing, nothing from

994
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: him or talk bad about him because, like I said,

995
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:43,399
Speaker 1: it's never him.

996
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 4: Did you so? How so how old were you when

997
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 4: you first met fifty?

998
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 1: Oh? I know fifty, Like fifty had to be like

999
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 1: twelve years old. He was like the youngest on the block.

1000
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 1: So when I used to go to the store when

1001
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 1: he was twelve, I was ten. I'm thinking about Chuck Norris,

1002
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:03,240
Speaker 1: Bruce Lee, right, shit like that. You know the Transformers,

1003
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: he man, you know little shit.

1004
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 4: Right.

1005
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 1: So you go to the store of my Pops. You

1006
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 1: see the littlest on the block, twelve years old, and

1007
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 1: they have the rhymestone jacket that say, booboo with the

1008
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 1: hot rods of rings. It's a little kid. So he

1009
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 1: stood out. She was like I said, it was twelve

1010
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 1: years old, got a little on the block this side

1011
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:25,720
Speaker 1: with nothing but over grown with a rhyme stone jacket.

1012
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: A rhymestone jacket back in the days was the shit

1013
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: yeah and the hot rose of ring you looking like

1014
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,399
Speaker 1: hold on the funck.

1015
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 3: So is that from that basement where you go to

1016
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 3: your your partner's house and his pop was cool with

1017
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 3: you guys smoking? Is that where g unit was formed at?

1018
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 1: I would say that in a way, but not in

1019
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: a way because fifty had to deal with Jim Master

1020
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 1: j And then after he got shot, he came back

1021
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,399
Speaker 1: and you know, me and him got together and then

1022
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: I brung Banks to him. I brung Banks to him

1023
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 1: because Banks was a little younger. Banks was younger than

1024
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: both of us. And then he just came with the

1025
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 1: blueprint like, Yo, we're gonna do this, and y'all gotta

1026
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 1: go to the studio. So me and him and Banks

1027
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 1: started going to the studio and then we started doing

1028
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 1: the mixtapes, and the mixtapes was killing the streets, like

1029
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,359
Speaker 1: we had New York City on lock stop taking away

1030
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 1: shit from giguing to y'all. And Banks is one of

1031
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 1: the top five two lyricists. But we just had some

1032
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 1: shit man dropping. We was dropping dropping and people was

1033
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 1: loving it. Fifth was just he's just a natural writer. Banks.

1034
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 1: He just write balls for breakfast, you know. Me and me,

1035
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 1: I think people respect my energy. I have balls, but

1036
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 1: I think people love my energy on stage and as

1037
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 1: well as.

1038
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:36,359
Speaker 4: With the music.

1039
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, do you remember about getting Do you remember what

1040
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 3: you were doing the morning, mid afternoon, late afternoon when

1041
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 3: you got the call that fifty had got shot nine times?

1042
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 1: Oh? Now I remember that. Yeah. I went right to

1043
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 1: his block, like I forgot who called me? But I

1044
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 1: went right to his grandmother block because he only lived

1045
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 1: two blocks away, you know.

1046
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,120
Speaker 4: And you didn't hear anything. You'd hear, no como, I

1047
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 4: had no.

1048
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 1: Shots, I guess. I got up late or whatever, and

1049
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: I walked to the block and the block was cut off,

1050
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 1: already fixed off. Yeah, it was cut off, and it

1051
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 1: was yellow tape there, and shit, mad yellow tape, Like,

1052
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 1: oh shit, I feel like I need my chapstick. Man.

1053
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 1: My chap stick had founded, but it was mad yellow

1054
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 1: tape on the block. So you couldn't even go down.

1055
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 4: You couldn't You couldn't get to it.

1056
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, you couldn't even get to it. Got lighter. I

1057
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 1: don't even got chapstick, yo. So I couldn't get to it.

1058
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 1: And I went to the hospital. What's the one on

1059
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 1: that'd you make avenue? That's Mary mackallin Mary Macklin. That's

1060
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 1: the hospital that saved him. And I went in there

1061
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 1: and you know, it was mad. You know people there,

1062
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: people we knew. And I was like, yo, what's going on?

1063
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 1: And he was like, fifthy don't want to see nobody.

1064
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 1: And then later on down the line, I asked him.

1065
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, why you never wanted me to

1066
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 1: see you? And he was like, at that point, I

1067
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 1: couldn't see you see see see me in weakness. It

1068
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 1: would have fucked your head up. Probably would have scared you,

1069
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:02,320
Speaker 1: you know, cause the niggas that he's dealing with like

1070
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 1: cream and them niggas ain't no you know what I mean,

1071
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 1: There ain't no pushovers. It's real nigga. So he was like, yo,

1072
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want you to see me like that, But

1073
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:12,399
Speaker 1: fifty didn't give a fuck lady.

1074
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 4: I mean, you do realize for somebody to get hit

1075
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 4: nine times and survive. He got a calling.

1076
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,320
Speaker 1: Definitely. I believe it's his grandma. Rest in peace. She was.

1077
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 1: She was outside when he got hit. And then you

1078
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 1: gotta think about this. She was a church lady.

1079
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:27,880
Speaker 4: You know.

1080
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 1: She was a church lady. You know well, I know

1081
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 1: when I was over there, I used to be scared

1082
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:32,359
Speaker 1: of fifty.

1083
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:32,760
Speaker 4: Grandma.

1084
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 1: She's real stun She might not say much, but she

1085
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 1: was going going church lady. I think she she fifty

1086
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 1: quiet side and I think fifty loud side. Where he

1087
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 1: get crazy is his grandfather's side. He's something his grandfather. Yeah,

1088
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 1: one day I'm laying on the couch on the run,

1089
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 1: and he was like, Yo, you're gonna have to face that.

1090
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 1: I ain't hurt him someday, damn. And I was like,

1091
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: I thought about being on the run. I'm like, damn.

1092
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 1: He put my day up with that one. Yeah, rest

1093
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,919
Speaker 1: in peace to Grandpa. He fucked my day with that woman.

1094
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 4: Did you think you did you think fifty would make

1095
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 4: it through this situation? Men? Did they give you that?

1096
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:07,760
Speaker 3: I mean, did the doctors tell anybody? Because you couldn't

1097
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 3: see him, But did the doctors come out there when

1098
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 3: he was talking to his grandmother. You happen to be

1099
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 3: around his grandfather, and he says, the proagnosis doesn't look good.

1100
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 1: I mean I didn't even know. I just remember saying

1101
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 1: he didn't want to see nobody was at the hospital

1102
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 1: for a while and everybody just left.

1103
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 4: M how old was pet at this time?

1104
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:28,399
Speaker 1: Have to be in his twenties man twenty four, twenty five, damn.

1105
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 1: And then he came back. When he came back, he

1106
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 1: used to be strapped every day, you know, big vests

1107
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 1: on when he's driving. That then, and he didn't care.

1108
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 1: If he's seen his enemies, it would have been over

1109
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:41,879
Speaker 1: at that point.

1110
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 3: Well, I'm glad y'all didn't see nobody. Yeah, me too,

1111
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 3: as we made it this far, well hopefully hopefully it's

1112
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 3: over now.

1113
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.

1114
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 3: I mean when you heard the song Wangster, if he

1115
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 3: played it, he played it for you, Yeah, did you

1116
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:57,879
Speaker 3: think like, okay.

1117
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 1: This is it Wangster? I didn't. I didn't think, you

1118
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 1: know what, you never know what's the hit record?

1119
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 3: You know what. I'm glad you said that, because, you

1120
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 3: know what, every time I asked somebody, oh, I know

1121
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 3: that thing was smoking.

1122
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: Oh I knew he was gonna be a star. Oh yah,

1123
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 1: damn and I knew. I'm like, but damn cut the cap.

1124
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 1: You never know what's gonna be a hit record. Like

1125
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 1: artists might have a record that they like, like, y'all,

1126
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 1: I like this record, and then the record that they

1127
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 1: don't even think, Like fifty didn't like many men. I

1128
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 1: had to talk him into that. Really, he didn't like

1129
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 1: many men. Yoldest records too slow man. I used to

1130
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 1: be in a crib. You bugging. It's one of the

1131
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 1: hardest records.

1132
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:32,959
Speaker 4: Yes.

1133
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 1: One thing about me is I always had the ear

1134
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 1: when we're in the studio and I'm in the studio

1135
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 1: with Dre and them, you just know that get rich

1136
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:42,839
Speaker 1: and I try, AND's gonna be some shit Like That's

1137
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 1: one of my best experiences in my life, being in

1138
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 1: the studio with Doctor Dre and Eminem. Doctor Dre was

1139
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 1: different for me because you know, he smoked Hello weed.

1140
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 1: You know the weeders in there. Yeah, Kneyacs in there.

1141
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 1: I'm in LA for the first time, Like, oh shit,

1142
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 1: he's playing in the club. B He's playing and p

1143
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 1: I M P B he's playing. He got all the

1144
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 1: ship in the vote. I'm like, damn snigger. Doctor Dre

1145
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:08,879
Speaker 1: gotta be one of the best producers in the world.

1146
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 1: That's one of my best experiences. Then when you're with Eminem,

1147
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 1: Eminem is more serious, like he got playing pianos and

1148
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:17,840
Speaker 1: guitars and ship like that.

1149
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 4: You're like, damn, ain't no smoking.

1150
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 1: Eminem will tell you many men the footsteps he'd be

1151
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 1: like them footsteps are from poltr Geyst Like what you know,

1152
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 1: that's a producer that's like that. Those are the footsteps

1153
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 1: from polter Guyst Like that's and many men. I'm like,

1154
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 1: he's listening to the little things. Damn they just take

1155
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 1: they take away from Eminem. Let's keep it real because

1156
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 1: he a white boy. Yeah, let's keep it real. I

1157
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:47,320
Speaker 1: don't listen to Eminem. I don't listen to him in

1158
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 1: the car, so it don't yo listen. It don't matter.

1159
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 1: He's still billions on. He still do pillions of streams.

1160
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 1: You know when you look and then look at what

1161
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:01,800
Speaker 1: he did group wise, right, you got twelve twelve, you

1162
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 1: got g unit yep, fifty cosine, you got Grizzelda. Right. No, no,

1163
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:10,280
Speaker 1: let's let's let's not forget. Let's forget about Joe buttons.

1164
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 1: Let's go back to slow the House because you can't

1165
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 1: forget Joe buttons in them and then Griselda. All them

1166
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 1: cosins helped bring successful art success to these artists, you

1167
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 1: don't think so yeah, for sure, the worldwide because of Eminem.

1168
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 4: I don't know why people have a hard time giving

1169
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 4: people credit.

1170
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 1: It's Benzino. It's the only one. Benzeno. He can't get

1171
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 1: over it because when you look at him, it's like them.

1172
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 1: It's like them. There destroyed the Source magazine. When you

1173
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 1: really think about its nailing the coffin, it was over.

1174
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:43,360
Speaker 1: Benzino kept getting that eminem. But the machine was so

1175
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 1: big that it was like what, yeah, you can't tell

1176
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 1: all right, you got the biggest rapper right now, fifty

1177
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 1: cent Mum, we're gonna go to double x hel and.

1178
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 4: Then you got the Source and you got what you

1179
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 4: got dre at that time.

1180
00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:02,839
Speaker 1: Come on, you heard them beats on, get it start trying, beast.

1181
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 1: Come on, bro, Snoop Dogg, come on, shout out to Snoop.

1182
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 3: Like if you're an actor and you say, well, you know,

1183
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 3: Denzel Washington is my acting coach, that's instant credibility.

1184
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 1: Even when you look at game game did five million?

1185
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 1: He sold a lot of records. I would never hate

1186
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 1: on Game. I was on his first album, but come on,

1187
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 1: doctor dre Co sound, Yes, fifty Coach sounds at the

1188
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:25,839
Speaker 1: same time, Eminem g Unit, Come on bro. Anybody who

1189
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,359
Speaker 1: sound on JUnit at that time was gonna platinum, gonna

1190
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:29,280
Speaker 1: go without a problem.

1191
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 4: I am.

1192
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 1: But never bite the hand that feeds you. That's what

1193
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 1: I learned about this. Never shit on the person that

1194
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 1: turned the lights on fifty gets me tomorrow, yo. I'm

1195
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 1: good for disrespect because you turned the lights on for me.

1196
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 1: And I appreciate that.

1197
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 3: Sometimes people have a hard time remembering or real life,

1198
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 3: or they have short term memory because what they didn't

1199
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 3: do it yesterday, that was ten years ago, that fifteen

1200
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 3: years ago. Because we're living in a society. Now, what

1201
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 3: have you done for me lately?

1202
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 1: Exactly?

1203
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 3: I'll never forget what someone has done for me. Be

1204
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 3: it ten years, fifteen, twenty years, it doesn't matter. Everybody

1205
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 3: got at me because when Skipping I had our public

1206
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:19,839
Speaker 3: thing on television, I said I was sitting across from

1207
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 3: him because he hadn't signed for me, I wouldn't have

1208
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 3: been able to do I wouldn't have been able to

1209
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:25,360
Speaker 3: be in that situation so he could get at me

1210
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 3: like that. I got back on television. I was out

1211
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 3: of television for two years, even when they didn't want

1212
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 3: the higher uposite Fox that want He says, I won't

1213
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:40,839
Speaker 3: do the show unless he's a cross for me. That's real, man,

1214
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 3: Please light you can't forget that. Yeah, I mean he

1215
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 3: might say it might. Yeah, it hurt at the time,

1216
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 3: but I still realized that the position that I made

1217
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 3: a lot of what I have was because I got

1218
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:55,840
Speaker 3: back on television and he gave me an opportunity to

1219
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:58,319
Speaker 3: show how well around that I was, that I could

1220
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 3: talk about a lot of other things other than foot ball.

1221
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 4: He gave me that opportunity. I'm ever grateful.

1222
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 1: That's how I feel. I'm forever grateful anybody put me on.

1223
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 1: That's why I always shout out eminem and doctor Dre. Yeah,

1224
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 1: for sure, you show you do too much. Now you

1225
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:13,840
Speaker 1: can't even put a picture with social media. He clazed,

1226
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 1: and yeah, man, yeah, yo, fifty fifties kids. Yes that

1227
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 1: you're watching fifties car. Yeah, but it's cool for me

1228
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:22,879
Speaker 1: because that I learned. I put my faith in God.

1229
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 1: That shit don't mean shit to me. I've been making

1230
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 1: money before there was a Instagram. I've been traveling the

1231
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:31,880
Speaker 1: country before there was a Instagram. That shit don't mean

1232
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 1: nothing to me. And I know how the rap game is.

1233
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,360
Speaker 1: I don't like me, right, and I'm cool with that.

1234
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 1: I'm not mad at anybody. I got money with fifty.

1235
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 1: I don't need to be friends with everybody. I never

1236
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 1: disrespect nobody, right, you know, I just sit back and

1237
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 1: be humble.

1238
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 4: That's it. Well, you guys started to blow up. You

1239
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 4: on the run.

1240
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had a gun charge.

1241
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 4: Why did you go on and face the charge?

1242
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:57,840
Speaker 1: Honestly? There was this judge, his name is Judge Wong,

1243
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:00,359
Speaker 1: and he was like, no joke, And I just wanted

1244
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 1: nobody wants to go to jail.

1245
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:06,399
Speaker 4: Sha, sha, what damn you should have put You could

1246
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 4: have put that thing you put put the tool down?

1247
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 1: No, So yeah, I mean I was bugging out. I

1248
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 1: got slipping. Things happened, but for me, I didn't want

1249
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,759
Speaker 1: to go to jail. So I got a passport. I

1250
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 1: put my brother's name on it because we look alike.

1251
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:21,839
Speaker 1: I went into passport building and everything, and I got

1252
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 1: a passport and traveled everywhere. I went to Barcelona, I

1253
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 1: went to Spain. I was around eminem doctor Dre.

1254
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:28,400
Speaker 4: I was damn.

1255
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:30,279
Speaker 1: I never wanted to go to jail. I was like, yo,

1256
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 1: I got a friend like that. He was running forever.

1257
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 1: He just got caught the other day. Nobody wants to

1258
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 1: go to jail. They'll run if they have to. So

1259
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 1: I was running. I'm like, damn, traveling the country. But

1260
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 1: after nine to eleven happened. Rest in peace to everybody

1261
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 1: in that situation. It turned into a federal crime. So

1262
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 1: people at the office were so stupid. I'm gonna tell

1263
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 1: you what it was.

1264
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 4: It was.

1265
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 1: I don't want to say the girl name, but they

1266
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 1: gave me my paperwork. I'm just from jail. I had

1267
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 1: my first day out coming home. I got my paperwork.

1268
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:01,400
Speaker 1: I didn't even check the paperwork. Paperwork had the passport

1269
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 1: in there, and the passport had my brother's name. It

1270
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 1: was a faulty passport. I go to parole and handing

1271
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 1: and shit to my parole officer. No here, man, I'm excited.

1272
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 1: I'm home. I'm Tony Yale. Oh shit, the paperwork home.

1273
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 1: Get to see my daughter. She was born. Gave the

1274
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 1: paperwork to my parole office. He was like, wait, a

1275
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 1: minute's passport with your face but not your name. This

1276
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 1: is a phony document. He called a fag. In my

1277
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 1: first day out, I had to go back to the jail.

1278
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 1: I went to a federal prison. What well, it was

1279
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 1: a reception jill in DC. They had me in there

1280
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 1: for a minute. I was in MDC because that was

1281
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 1: like a They gave me six months and probation because

1282
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 1: it was a federal law. Once after nine to eleven,

1283
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 1: you got a fake passport, not a federal crown.

1284
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 4: Damn you get out one day.

1285
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 1: Just my luck. Life ain't never been easy for me

1286
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 1: like that.

1287
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 4: But I got buzzered luck.

1288
00:57:56,680 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 1: Hell, you know, I was in that set. I was like, fuck,

1289
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 1: that's when you drop a till when you by yourself.

1290
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 4: Was that the first time you cried in jail?

1291
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 1: No? I mean that was the first time. Yeah, Because

1292
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 1: my first day, I'm like, you out, we got freedom?

1293
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 4: You skipping up there?

1294
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 1: You know what's up? On the ride, I'm handcuffed and

1295
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 1: I'm hearing I wanted to get to know your Jeuneus song.

1296
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, bro, it's on the radio.

1297
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 1: That ship is Jeune is playing. I want to get

1298
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 1: to know you with Joe. I'm like, damn, man, got

1299
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 1: to myself. Yeah, dropped a till we are a human man.

1300
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 4: You spend time on fifty on fifties couch, slip on

1301
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 4: his couch.

1302
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1303
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 3: The family is around. Tell the people the protocol. If

1304
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 3: your man's let you sleep at his place. Oh yeah,

1305
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 3: and he got a baby mama. Yeah, the protocols. Make

1306
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 3: sure you fully closed. Always keep sweat pants on. Try

1307
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 3: to stay out the way.

1308
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 1: Yes, the business, yes, you know, keep a shirt on. Yes,

1309
00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 1: and try to stay out the way as much as

1310
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 1: you can. Don't smoke any house, don't do too much.

1311
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 1: Don't open a figerator unless I asked, if you ask.

1312
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 3: Because I don't know. I mean I think they're real. Well,

1313
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 3: I don't know, man to live there. I mean like

1314
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 3: on the couches.

1315
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not but I'm.

1316
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 4: Saying, but just you know, I mean you you crashed

1317
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 4: the couch, man, and and and the people's there.

1318
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 1: I feel like this for me once it's your lady,

1319
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 1: I don't even look. I look at that into my

1320
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 1: eyes as that's that's just how it was. Yes, okay,

1321
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 1: that's you know. Niggas get smoke with ship like that

1322
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 1: for real though, Like I'm not want your wife. I

1323
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 1: don't even want your side joint if you have one,

1324
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:36,919
Speaker 1: Like I'm just that's just how I am. I don't

1325
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 1: play dude play with dudes women. So for me, that

1326
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 1: was ciss at that time. You know. And I had

1327
00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:43,920
Speaker 1: love for a son. I still got love for a son,

1328
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 1: mar Keith, still got loved for him. You know what

1329
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I still got love for him. You know,

1330
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 1: sometimes baby moms get at me a little bit online,

1331
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 1: but I don't pay no mind to that, man. I

1332
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 1: just stay humble.

1333
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 4: Man.

1334
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:58,920
Speaker 3: You know you told the story that the granddad told you.

1335
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:01,480
Speaker 3: Do you go ahead the face out, that's still curtain.

1336
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 1: I remember, yeah, I remember fifty baby mams. One time

1337
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:05,440
Speaker 1: we was at dinner and she was like, y'all are

1338
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 1: all robots, right, because we only listen to what fifty said.

1339
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 1: We never she say something we ain't be that's white,

1340
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 1: that's your girl. We go over here, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,

1341
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 1: So fifty say something, we do it. So I remember

1342
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:20,720
Speaker 1: one time she said, y'all are all robots, and man, man,

1343
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 1: Halleen was like, we are robots. That shit was funny.

1344
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 4: Man.

1345
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 1: I got the stories man, she got. I'm always getting

1346
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 1: put through the ringer yao, because look when somebody on

1347
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:34,960
Speaker 1: took the fifth no more. It's automatic yay y'all. Yeah,

1348
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 1: except for banks. You know what I mean. It's automatic

1349
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:43,440
Speaker 1: ya yo yo, yayo too man, and I'll be like, damn, I.

1350
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:45,680
Speaker 4: Ain't even Yeah, you got be with him? How I

1351
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 4: get drugg into it.

1352
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 1: It's always like that. You heard Fat Joe. We wanted

1353
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 1: to kill yo yo, throw him in the truck. They

1354
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:55,920
Speaker 1: were serious. Everybody wanted It's always yayo right and ya yo.

1355
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 1: Stay out of the business. I love fifty, I stay

1356
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 1: out of his business. Whatever happens he does personally, that's

1357
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:03,640
Speaker 1: what he gotta deal with. I don't.

1358
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 4: I don't get involved in that.

1359
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 1: That's my that's your lady, that's your your kid. I

1360
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 1: ain't got nothing to do with that. That's mart Keis.

1361
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 1: I got a love for him. I ain't got no

1362
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:12,640
Speaker 1: problems with.

1363
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 4: Him, but that's between him and fifty. Yeah, I stayed.

1364
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:18,760
Speaker 1: That's none of my business. I stay out of people relationships.

1365
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:19,040
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1366
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 1: You know how sometimes in the hood, nigga might be

1367
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 1: slapping up his girl or something like that and it

1368
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 1: comes saving and now they're all both beating you up. Yeah, yeah,

1369
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 1: stay out of relationship business.

1370
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 4: Can yo gonna be back together?

1371
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 1: I stay out of people's business.

1372
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 4: You got to you know.

1373
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 1: That's how I made it this far, especially where we're from.

1374
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:41,760
Speaker 1: Mind your business, New York City, that's one thing we

1375
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 1: good at.

1376
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, y'all doing business, y'all, y'all pretare y'all don't see nothing.

1377
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 1: It's like, man, you just people take and you know what,

1378
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:50,600
Speaker 1: people from the South take it personally.

1379
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 4: They do they help, We help everybody like, nah, don't

1380
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 4: do that. Don't do that.

1381
01:01:55,480 --> 01:02:00,440
Speaker 1: Listen when you even think about it, right Ross and

1382
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:05,280
Speaker 1: fifty right Ross is not they got a beef because

1383
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 1: fifty didn't say it up to them. That's just a

1384
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 1: New York thing. One of the awards. I wasn't there,

1385
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:12,960
Speaker 1: but that's how it sparred. Nigga ain't say what's up

1386
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:15,640
Speaker 1: to me? Because down south, y'all have more.

1387
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:17,280
Speaker 4: Of a Hey, how you doing?

1388
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 1: Apple parttier Crib York is looking right, isn't it? That ship? Yeah?

1389
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:27,919
Speaker 1: My man moms one time we eating we rest her soul,

1390
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 1: my man stripe, we eating she come to us. You

1391
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 1: have the people next door off your food, don't eat it.

1392
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:36,760
Speaker 1: Two minutes later, God came and tried Broom's plate be like, non,

1393
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:39,040
Speaker 1: We're good. I don't know till this day why she

1394
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:41,480
Speaker 1: said that, but I listened to him. New York we

1395
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:45,600
Speaker 1: were just different, be getting beat up. I don't care

1396
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:50,680
Speaker 1: if you're white, Jewish, Black, Mexican, Dominican, Puerto Rican, whatever nationality, Jewish,

1397
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:54,080
Speaker 1: everybody's talk. You might think this dude is salt. I

1398
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 1: don't talk to me like that. Be ready to box.

1399
01:02:57,320 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 1: So New York, we just naturally line our business and

1400
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 1: keep it moving. So when you look at the whole

1401
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 1: world situation and I know he probably gonna go in Yoyo,

1402
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:11,080
Speaker 1: I'm in my pool, you whatever, because I don't care

1403
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:14,520
Speaker 1: about all that material ship my higher powers up there

1404
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:18,200
Speaker 1: right So for me, like you just met, you have

1405
01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 1: a beef with a nigga because it save it up.

1406
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:22,200
Speaker 1: But that's just more of a New York thing. Right

1407
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:24,840
Speaker 1: down south, y'all, Embracey shuffle more and I love that too.

1408
01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:25,800
Speaker 1: I love going to Atlanta.

1409
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 4: We do.

1410
01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:28,000
Speaker 1: I love it like that. We love it. You go

1411
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 1: to the country and people say, how are you? We're

1412
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:31,040
Speaker 1: not used to that.

1413
01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:34,000
Speaker 3: Ship because when I moved, I remember when I moved,

1414
01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 3: When I moved to Atlanta, the white guy crossed the street.

1415
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:38,680
Speaker 4: He brought me a cake.

1416
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:43,840
Speaker 1: City. What's the last time you said.

1417
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:47,600
Speaker 4: He brought me a cake? Yo? He says. Uh.

1418
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:51,040
Speaker 3: He's like, if you ever go out of town, you

1419
01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 3: need me to watch a house, I'll watch the house.

1420
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:55,439
Speaker 3: I end up giving a man a key to the house.

1421
01:03:56,760 --> 01:04:01,200
Speaker 1: That's that's crazy. I'm gonna tell you why. When we overseas,

1422
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:03,120
Speaker 1: me and my man and uncle Murder, we do odds

1423
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:05,120
Speaker 1: and evens to see if certain white people gonna get

1424
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 1: in the elevator with us, because we black niggas in

1425
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 1: a five star hotel, so we're not supposed to be

1426
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 1: we the only niggas in the hotel. Yeah, we here

1427
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:14,320
Speaker 1: because you know, on a be app of fifty cent,

1428
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:16,919
Speaker 1: we do odds and evens. Yo, Is this nigga gonna

1429
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:20,240
Speaker 1: get in elevator with us? Damn sure? Spin around. I

1430
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 1: seen a little kid run in the elevator. Moms, what

1431
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 1: are you doing? We in a Mani hotel. We in

1432
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:30,040
Speaker 1: the best hotels in the world. They ain't never seen

1433
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 1: in there. Like, man, nigga, what we got pulled over

1434
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 1: on our way here yesterday? My man want to argue

1435
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:39,240
Speaker 1: at police. I'm like, why do you all. You know

1436
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:43,680
Speaker 1: what we got pulled over for? Shut the Yeah, you

1437
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 1: know what I got pulled over for? Nigga? You know.

1438
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:51,840
Speaker 4: You fit?

1439
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:54,960
Speaker 1: I hate sometimes I ain't gonna friend. I hate when

1440
01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 1: people argue with police. What I got pulled for? You

1441
01:04:57,400 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 1: know what you got pulled over for? Well, it's Trump

1442
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:03,760
Speaker 1: shit going on. Like I told you, my man running

1443
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 1: through DC, you gotta don't even want to drive, damn. Yeah.

1444
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 1: I hope they don't come to New York and all

1445
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:10,400
Speaker 1: these other places.

1446
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:14,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's crazy Rikers, What was what was right?

1447
01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:15,800
Speaker 4: How long were you at Rikers?

1448
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:18,240
Speaker 1: I was in Rikers for like a couple of months.

1449
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:20,960
Speaker 1: That's the worst place to be in there. Yeah, it's

1450
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:21,720
Speaker 1: the worst man.

1451
01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:23,640
Speaker 4: That's over the boy laguardiat man.

1452
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:24,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the worst man.

1453
01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:28,160
Speaker 4: Y'all see your players take did you day dream? I mean,

1454
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:28,680
Speaker 4: could you see?

1455
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:31,320
Speaker 1: That's the real? To me, that's the real gladiator school.

1456
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:34,160
Speaker 1: Like one thing about New York, New York Grimy is

1457
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:37,240
Speaker 1: different than everywhere else. Like niggas used to spit raisers out,

1458
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:40,360
Speaker 1: they mouth like people used to be professional girls who

1459
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:42,960
Speaker 1: cut you. Like New York is just it is grimy.

1460
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:46,040
Speaker 1: So like Rikers, Allen like a motherfucker spit a raise

1461
01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:48,200
Speaker 1: out on you, cut you, and you wouldn't even see

1462
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 1: it coming. That's how it is for breakfast. It's not

1463
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:54,200
Speaker 1: a game. That's one of the most scariest experiences you

1464
01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:57,680
Speaker 1: could have in life. Damn, it's going to It's going

1465
01:05:57,720 --> 01:06:00,640
Speaker 1: to rikers out. You're going over the red you see

1466
01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:03,560
Speaker 1: the Home of the Boldest, you bumping on it. It's

1467
01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 1: your first time being you know, it's It's the most

1468
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:09,080
Speaker 1: insane thing I had to deal with in life. I

1469
01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:11,479
Speaker 1: never wanted to go to jail again. You gotta smell

1470
01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:14,560
Speaker 1: other people, ship, take showers and ship. Watch your back.

1471
01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 1: This just broke up with this girl. You got gang

1472
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:22,160
Speaker 1: over here extoring this nigga. You got bucket stolen, cut

1473
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:26,080
Speaker 1: the cigarettes like what the whole nother world shal in

1474
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:28,240
Speaker 1: prison is a whole nother world I never want. I

1475
01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:30,760
Speaker 1: did skip bids, like I learned my lesson off a

1476
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:32,760
Speaker 1: little bits like all that I can never do.

1477
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:35,880
Speaker 4: So, what's the difference between between jail and and and

1478
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:37,280
Speaker 4: and prison?

1479
01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 1: Oh, jailers rikers Allen m DC prison is you know,

1480
01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:45,400
Speaker 1: up top the mountains, you where you have to You

1481
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:48,640
Speaker 1: gotta figure out what car you're gonna be in that's prison, prison,

1482
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:50,840
Speaker 1: whole nother world. That's when you go up North Green

1483
01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:55,760
Speaker 1: all that Attica, that's prison. Jail is Rikers Allen right,

1484
01:06:56,560 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 1: m d C MCC that's federal. You know. Yeah, Yo, listen,

1485
01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 1: it was to a point when it's g unit. And

1486
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:05,960
Speaker 1: this is one thing where I say I love fifty

1487
01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:09,760
Speaker 1: again is we had a lawyer for every situation. We

1488
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:17,120
Speaker 1: had Steve Murphy and bodies. We had Scott Lehman Federal,

1489
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:24,320
Speaker 1: we had Bob Macedonian State. The list goes on and on.

1490
01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:27,160
Speaker 1: Edwin Hammond I haven't heard from. He was a parole lawyer.

1491
01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 1: There's a different lawyer for every situation. So a lot

1492
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:32,360
Speaker 1: of these kids they get in trouble and they don't

1493
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:34,400
Speaker 1: even have the lawyer money. The lawyer money is the

1494
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:37,040
Speaker 1: main thing you need to make sure you're good, because

1495
01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:40,040
Speaker 1: we're a legal aid. You're going straight to prison even

1496
01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:40,840
Speaker 1: if you innocent.

1497
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:42,760
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he gonna he gonna what he gonna be

1498
01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:46,200
Speaker 3: a hey, he gonna pleae he gonna pleae that Yale.

1499
01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:50,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a lawyer supply for every situation, got

1500
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:53,000
Speaker 1: every situation, and I needed one for that. But jail

1501
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:56,440
Speaker 1: experience prison. I never really went to I did a

1502
01:07:56,480 --> 01:07:58,919
Speaker 1: shock program. Everybody be like, oh, he went to shock,

1503
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:00,760
Speaker 1: he can go to real jail. That's right. I wanted

1504
01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:03,360
Speaker 1: to get home. He was blowing up. You out sold

1505
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:05,960
Speaker 1: jay Z that year, right with Beg for Mercy. Right.

1506
01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:07,760
Speaker 1: I remember seeing it in the paper when of the

1507
01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:10,960
Speaker 1: CEO's going to it was like, Beg for Mercy, that's you, right.

1508
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:11,720
Speaker 1: I was on the cover.

1509
01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:15,600
Speaker 3: Had that look you on the cover of magazine and

1510
01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:19,120
Speaker 3: you were here. Yeah, They're like, bro, you don't get

1511
01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:20,000
Speaker 3: your ass out of here.

1512
01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:22,439
Speaker 1: That's why I always say. Eminem wearing a free Ale

1513
01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:24,599
Speaker 1: shit at the Grammys was like that was a turning

1514
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:27,160
Speaker 1: point in my life because he didn't have to do that.

1515
01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:28,920
Speaker 1: I was on Rikers Island and that was like, yo,

1516
01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:31,599
Speaker 1: free aal Eminem. You know, at this point he's selling

1517
01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:35,799
Speaker 1: sixteen million records, hard copies, not streams, not a machine.

1518
01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:40,439
Speaker 1: This is facts, Like you're going an f Ye blockbuster. Wow, yeah,

1519
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:43,840
Speaker 1: target good times sixteen million.

1520
01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:49,040
Speaker 3: So when m got that shirt on free Yale, are

1521
01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:49,680
Speaker 3: you watching it?

1522
01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:51,200
Speaker 4: Are you watch to watch it?

1523
01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:54,479
Speaker 1: They and they look at you like yeah, shout out

1524
01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:56,720
Speaker 1: to Tracy me new at Paul Rosenberg. They called me

1525
01:08:56,760 --> 01:08:59,439
Speaker 1: from Shady markle Bell and they was like, YO, make

1526
01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:01,519
Speaker 1: sure you get to watch the Grammys that night. And

1527
01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:03,160
Speaker 1: you know I met my house he seventy three. I

1528
01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:04,720
Speaker 1: didn't go on on no devo shit because you know,

1529
01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:07,160
Speaker 1: jails about politics, because you know you can get stabbed

1530
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:09,439
Speaker 1: over the TV and newspaper. That's what they tell you.

1531
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:14,160
Speaker 1: Three warnings, TV, newspaper and the phone. That's where did

1532
01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:14,880
Speaker 1: the first come first?

1533
01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:16,920
Speaker 4: There is the seniority.

1534
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:18,800
Speaker 1: You know, you got the Spanish dudes. They may want

1535
01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:21,200
Speaker 1: want to watch Cali Coyllie and and then you had

1536
01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:22,920
Speaker 1: the Black dudes. They may want to watch b Et

1537
01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:24,800
Speaker 1: or something. But I told them that night, you know,

1538
01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:26,839
Speaker 1: I just need a couple of seconds to watch the Grammys.

1539
01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:29,080
Speaker 1: And then they let me rock and I watched the TV.

1540
01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:31,599
Speaker 1: It wasn't like I came, give me the fucking TV, right,

1541
01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:34,040
Speaker 1: I was locked up with when the Diddy security guards

1542
01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:37,840
Speaker 1: big bombs, bro, that was Diddy like men. That was

1543
01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:41,519
Speaker 1: my men. That's my men till this day named bombs.

1544
01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:42,519
Speaker 4: It's my dude.

1545
01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:49,280
Speaker 3: You said something very interesting, You said blacks versus Hispanics

1546
01:09:49,320 --> 01:09:52,160
Speaker 3: in jail. You said, Hispanics go to jail, they're protected

1547
01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:54,240
Speaker 3: by their own but when blacks go to jail, they're

1548
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:54,920
Speaker 3: beefing with their own.

1549
01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:58,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how Rikers was so kers Rikers. They could

1550
01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:00,479
Speaker 1: be in the same game. You could be Blood and

1551
01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:02,320
Speaker 1: I could be Blood and they still banging. Or you

1552
01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:03,960
Speaker 1: could be Krypt and you could be Crypt and they're

1553
01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:08,479
Speaker 1: still banging. Why. I don't know, man, It's just the

1554
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:08,920
Speaker 1: way it is.

1555
01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:12,240
Speaker 4: But you say, I mean, you said the Hispanics or

1556
01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:12,639
Speaker 4: the area.

1557
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:14,840
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, whenever Spanish do get to jail. You know

1558
01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:18,360
Speaker 1: some Spanish you good money, You good money. Yo. You

1559
01:10:18,479 --> 01:10:20,919
Speaker 1: need sneakers, you need protection, you need a knock.

1560
01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:21,240
Speaker 4: You need this.

1561
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:25,479
Speaker 1: Because that's how they stick together. Bro. You know it's

1562
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:27,639
Speaker 1: sometimes black people should stick together.

1563
01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:30,719
Speaker 4: How can we do that? How can we stick together?

1564
01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:33,479
Speaker 1: I think it started with people like me and you

1565
01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:36,880
Speaker 1: talking about it. It's like, what can we do to

1566
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:38,600
Speaker 1: make a difference. You got little kids out here with

1567
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:41,840
Speaker 1: switches everywhere you go. Nobody cares about them.

1568
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:42,479
Speaker 4: You know.

1569
01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:45,280
Speaker 1: Trump just took away a lot of after school program

1570
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:48,080
Speaker 1: so you got more little kids in the street. Yeah,

1571
01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:50,519
Speaker 1: you know, and then the guys that are trying to

1572
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:52,760
Speaker 1: help them, that get the grants and try to get

1573
01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:56,200
Speaker 1: the guys off the street. Like my man Dreux from

1574
01:10:56,280 --> 01:10:59,560
Speaker 1: Shady You know that he works with the kids. He

1575
01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:03,599
Speaker 1: brings rappers around them, people like you. They need, they

1576
01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:06,080
Speaker 1: need a way out. That's what it is. Because my

1577
01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:08,320
Speaker 1: kids are good. I'm good, you know. Now it's what

1578
01:11:08,439 --> 01:11:10,639
Speaker 1: can I do to make things better? We gotta talk

1579
01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:12,479
Speaker 1: about it. Where do switches come from?

1580
01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:15,800
Speaker 4: Why can't somebody three and why they ended up in

1581
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:16,400
Speaker 4: our community?

1582
01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:19,040
Speaker 1: Exactly? Why? How? Why can why? How can somebody make

1583
01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:19,639
Speaker 1: a three D gun?

1584
01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:19,840
Speaker 4: Now?

1585
01:11:21,240 --> 01:11:23,640
Speaker 1: Like, where's all this coming from? So we say we

1586
01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:25,240
Speaker 1: want to clean up the streets, but where is it

1587
01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:25,760
Speaker 1: coming from?

1588
01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:27,280
Speaker 4: And why do we need a three D gun?

1589
01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:33,960
Speaker 1: Because you being in places where when we go to

1590
01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:36,200
Speaker 1: the Bronx men, listen, I don't even go to the Bronx.

1591
01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:40,240
Speaker 1: The Bronx me is a no fly zone. Damn yeah, yeah,

1592
01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:43,720
Speaker 1: I ain't going the Bronx. I might go to Fat

1593
01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:45,800
Speaker 1: join them dispensary. It's sounding real quick, but I ain't

1594
01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:49,240
Speaker 1: going to hang out mingle shooting video dangerous out there,

1595
01:11:50,040 --> 01:11:52,840
Speaker 1: And what it is is, you know, the kids, the

1596
01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:55,800
Speaker 1: shooters are getting younger and younger. They thirteen fourteen, The

1597
01:11:55,960 --> 01:12:00,240
Speaker 1: got drill rap. Now I just smoked your brother. That

1598
01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:03,840
Speaker 1: shit is crazy. That shit is some crazy shit. And

1599
01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:06,040
Speaker 1: I'm not against all of drill music. Sometimes, you know,

1600
01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:08,360
Speaker 1: some of it is entertaining. But when you're saying you

1601
01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:11,640
Speaker 1: smoke somebody brother or or did this and did that,

1602
01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:14,320
Speaker 1: l I killed your brother, that shit is back and forth.

1603
01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:15,360
Speaker 1: That shit is really real.

1604
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:18,240
Speaker 4: So now where does it stop? Because you do me

1605
01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:19,960
Speaker 4: and you do my brother. I got to get you.

1606
01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:24,960
Speaker 1: It never stops because they go right to Instagram. Because

1607
01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:27,200
Speaker 1: now I think, like you know how, back in the days,

1608
01:12:27,240 --> 01:12:29,960
Speaker 1: we used to glorify the drug dealer. Yeah, now they

1609
01:12:30,040 --> 01:12:34,280
Speaker 1: glorified shooting. The shooting to do with five bodies. That's

1610
01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:36,519
Speaker 1: why let's keep it real. That's why we like him Gone.

1611
01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:42,040
Speaker 1: That's why we like blood hand right, Bloodhound, Little Jeff,

1612
01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:47,720
Speaker 1: That's why we like it. People, and listen. I like

1613
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:50,519
Speaker 1: gangster music, don't get me wrong, but there's a difference

1614
01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:54,599
Speaker 1: between gangster music and reality. Yes, you know what I'm saying.

1615
01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:56,439
Speaker 1: I dealt with the reality part. Like I said, my

1616
01:12:56,520 --> 01:12:58,560
Speaker 1: mom's crip got shot up. I don't want to go

1617
01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:01,040
Speaker 1: through that shit. That shit is some real shit, but

1618
01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:04,000
Speaker 1: shit happens. But now with the drill rap. It's a

1619
01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:07,280
Speaker 1: whole different game now, Yo, you shot my brother, were

1620
01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:10,240
Speaker 1: gonna kill ten of yours? Go right on Instagram because

1621
01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:14,360
Speaker 1: now you've got social media. Well that's even more crazy

1622
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:16,080
Speaker 1: because they don't care if your mom's in the spot,

1623
01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 1: your kids. You see it every running on now, they

1624
01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:22,639
Speaker 1: don't care, man, they don't care. Some innocent people getting

1625
01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:26,479
Speaker 1: shot just riding through blocks in Chicago. Oh shit, that's

1626
01:13:26,520 --> 01:13:29,479
Speaker 1: the op. No, you just shot an innocent lady. Now

1627
01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:34,200
Speaker 1: that's when it's going too far. Protect yourself, cool, protect yourself.

1628
01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:38,640
Speaker 1: You always be able to protect yourself, right, But what

1629
01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:40,840
Speaker 1: innocent people get hit? Like I told you in Brooklyn

1630
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:43,800
Speaker 1: thing lady was sixty one years old. And the Jamaican spot.

1631
01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:47,479
Speaker 1: How they getting all them guns? As hard as hell

1632
01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:49,560
Speaker 1: to get a gun in New York, Yo, Nah, I

1633
01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:51,240
Speaker 1: be they hard for you.

1634
01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:54,640
Speaker 4: Because I'm trying to do it.

1635
01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:59,360
Speaker 1: Legal guns is like t shirts man. Yo. Look, I

1636
01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:01,240
Speaker 1: used to think that there was no guns in Canada

1637
01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:04,519
Speaker 1: until I went out there. It's just the price of

1638
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:06,280
Speaker 1: a gun in Canada, of course, more than the price

1639
01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:08,280
Speaker 1: of a gun in New York. To get it to Canada,

1640
01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:11,439
Speaker 1: that ship might cost you ten thousand dollars five thousand dollars,

1641
01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:14,479
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So the price go up

1642
01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:16,960
Speaker 1: for the gun. But the guns is everywhere, them ships

1643
01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:19,040
Speaker 1: like Tea. Hey, come on, bro, you see them kids

1644
01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:21,759
Speaker 1: in Philly, man, yeah, the kids in Chicago.

1645
01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:23,240
Speaker 4: Come on.

1646
01:14:23,400 --> 01:14:25,240
Speaker 1: I heard a man say, what the shooting in Brooklyn?

1647
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:27,519
Speaker 1: A dude got shot so many times? When they lift

1648
01:14:27,600 --> 01:14:29,880
Speaker 1: him up, there was it looked like there was no

1649
01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:31,880
Speaker 1: more blood in his body. Like I said back in

1650
01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:34,559
Speaker 1: the day's nigga get shot five times, eight times survived.

1651
01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:37,000
Speaker 1: You don't got a three, You got a nine point

1652
01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:38,479
Speaker 1: a non.

1653
01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:42,080
Speaker 3: Point with yeah, yah ya you coulter, no mother get

1654
01:14:42,160 --> 01:14:44,799
Speaker 3: they get hit with army, which stuff made for the military.

1655
01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:46,679
Speaker 1: Thirty eight niggas got military?

1656
01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:48,280
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah.

1657
01:14:48,360 --> 01:14:50,800
Speaker 1: Now the reason how we finished? How do you how

1658
01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:53,040
Speaker 1: does it get to the street. How does a sixteen

1659
01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:54,000
Speaker 1: year old kid got a.

1660
01:14:56,720 --> 01:14:57,839
Speaker 4: Nine with a buff.

1661
01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:01,439
Speaker 1: Cop kill is in it with a switch on the back?

1662
01:15:03,439 --> 01:15:03,599
Speaker 4: Man?

1663
01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 3: They got their care and guns that they use the

1664
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:06,639
Speaker 3: hunt elephants and lines lead.

1665
01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:08,920
Speaker 1: That's why that's why I say that to me. When

1666
01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:10,599
Speaker 1: I learned, when I got out the street, I learned

1667
01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:13,360
Speaker 1: that this ship is all a business. Jail is a business.

1668
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:16,920
Speaker 1: Rich buying in jail. Motherfucker got to sit there due

1669
01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:20,080
Speaker 1: to jail time, right, So put theyself in jail because

1670
01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:23,040
Speaker 1: with the technology it got Now like let's talk about

1671
01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:25,840
Speaker 1: an indicting. What is an indicting? You sit there and

1672
01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:30,439
Speaker 1: you let a person do crimes, Well, lock them up

1673
01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:32,719
Speaker 1: for the first shooting. No, let's let them get more.

1674
01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:35,840
Speaker 4: Shootings, get more more shooting because you need more time

1675
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:36,080
Speaker 4: on it.

1676
01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:39,320
Speaker 1: Give him a year, give him a hundred years being caught. Like, yo,

1677
01:15:39,479 --> 01:15:42,080
Speaker 1: he got one hundred and twelve months in the FEDS.

1678
01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:49,120
Speaker 1: What the what's that not true life? Yeah? You put

1679
01:15:49,160 --> 01:15:51,240
Speaker 1: a hit out on somebody. Like when I did my

1680
01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:53,280
Speaker 1: little time in the FEDS, I read the FED lines,

1681
01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:56,840
Speaker 1: FED guidelines and that was like damn. He was in

1682
01:15:56,920 --> 01:15:59,240
Speaker 1: there selling the FEDS fake bricks. It might not even

1683
01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:02,559
Speaker 1: be real work. It might be sugar, and you're still

1684
01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:08,640
Speaker 1: getting charge for them bricks. Yeah, if you call a hit,

1685
01:16:08,720 --> 01:16:10,960
Speaker 1: y'all want to get this killed? Man, I get the

1686
01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:14,080
Speaker 1: motherfucker from from LA to kill a nigga in New York. Oh,

1687
01:16:14,120 --> 01:16:18,240
Speaker 1: that's natural life. Then with the cameras, you got the

1688
01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:22,679
Speaker 1: license plate cameras now speed cameras. So for any criminal,

1689
01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:26,160
Speaker 1: you do a crime. You're gonna get caught. Then you

1690
01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:28,479
Speaker 1: got your phone, you go do it. Hit.

1691
01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:29,559
Speaker 4: That's the worst thing.

1692
01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:32,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, you see it all time, motherfucker, go do a hit.

1693
01:16:32,080 --> 01:16:33,519
Speaker 1: I wasn't there, you know what I mean, niggas, I

1694
01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:36,720
Speaker 1: know locked up y'all. Wasn't there then thinking let's just

1695
01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:40,840
Speaker 1: go this at and t bro that think ping it's

1696
01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:44,840
Speaker 1: a lose. New situation is facial recognition. I be talking

1697
01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:46,160
Speaker 1: at least Evis. I don't know if you know it

1698
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:47,880
Speaker 1: from Fox five, but that's a friend of mine, and

1699
01:16:47,960 --> 01:16:52,040
Speaker 1: she tells me the technologies that police have, like yo yao,

1700
01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:55,240
Speaker 1: they got they'll take cameras off the ATM, they got

1701
01:16:55,320 --> 01:16:58,920
Speaker 1: facial recognition, they got DNA off the close. Now you're

1702
01:16:59,000 --> 01:16:59,599
Speaker 1: gonna get caught.

1703
01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:04,080
Speaker 4: Bro. You mentioned in twenty twenty three that Dori Lanes

1704
01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:09,720
Speaker 4: would be a target and blow and behold, why was

1705
01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:11,680
Speaker 4: he not? Why was he not? Why was he in

1706
01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:12,160
Speaker 4: g pop?

1707
01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:14,920
Speaker 1: Well, when you look at it, man, when street credibility,

1708
01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:18,200
Speaker 1: people respect you more, like me being Tony Aoen was

1709
01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:20,760
Speaker 1: in general population on the island, it was more respect.

1710
01:17:20,479 --> 01:17:23,519
Speaker 4: Because man, damn dad, damn that respect.

1711
01:17:23,680 --> 01:17:25,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it was stupid. It was stupid on my part,

1712
01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:28,439
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie. But when you're in PC, they

1713
01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:29,960
Speaker 1: look at it like, oh yo, you in there with

1714
01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:33,040
Speaker 1: punk studes, pedophiles. You know you ain't a real one,

1715
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:36,200
Speaker 1: So don't want to be in PC. It's less movement.

1716
01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:38,920
Speaker 1: You might not can't get your wig, you know on

1717
01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:41,640
Speaker 1: the island. You're on PC, you got police walking with you.

1718
01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:45,320
Speaker 1: So it's really no comfortability. And then really it's a

1719
01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:48,120
Speaker 1: status thing because let's keep it real. If he wouldn't

1720
01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:49,840
Speaker 1: be in PC, you want to listen to his music,

1721
01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:51,080
Speaker 1: The kids ain't.

1722
01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:55,439
Speaker 4: They wanted to be real, so to be hard, you're

1723
01:17:55,439 --> 01:17:57,760
Speaker 4: gonna be in there and almost lose your life.

1724
01:17:57,840 --> 01:18:00,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a dumb thing, general population, a dumb thing.

1725
01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:03,400
Speaker 1: But you know he should have been secluded because he's

1726
01:18:03,400 --> 01:18:05,640
Speaker 1: a star and you the biggest target any rapper go

1727
01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:08,000
Speaker 1: to jail, you the target name.

1728
01:18:08,280 --> 01:18:11,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's just like that's like with anybody, like a

1729
01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:14,360
Speaker 3: serial killer. We saw with Jeffrey Dahmer, and we see

1730
01:18:14,439 --> 01:18:17,559
Speaker 3: they they you can't, they can't put you in G pop. Now,

1731
01:18:17,880 --> 01:18:19,120
Speaker 3: somebody gonna make a name off you.

1732
01:18:19,400 --> 01:18:21,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's terrible what happened to him, And you

1733
01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:23,880
Speaker 1: know he should have been more secluded. Even even my

1734
01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:26,080
Speaker 1: time on the island. When they started to know who

1735
01:18:26,120 --> 01:18:27,560
Speaker 1: I was, they didn't want to. They were supposed to

1736
01:18:27,560 --> 01:18:29,160
Speaker 1: be so cool hit to on me, you know what

1737
01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:32,200
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But they didn't they I was leaving, so

1738
01:18:32,280 --> 01:18:33,479
Speaker 1: they was like, all right, we ain't gonna put him

1739
01:18:33,479 --> 01:18:37,479
Speaker 1: in PC, but they'll forcefully put you in there. But

1740
01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:39,280
Speaker 1: like Toy, they probably wanted to put him in there,

1741
01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:40,760
Speaker 1: and he probably was like, Nah, I don't want to

1742
01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:44,559
Speaker 1: do that, but that's the life we live. They want

1743
01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:46,479
Speaker 1: you to be what your music is. You know, that's

1744
01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:48,400
Speaker 1: just the life we live, man, And it's it's a

1745
01:18:48,479 --> 01:18:50,840
Speaker 1: point of ignorance. But I can't say, you know, I

1746
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:52,800
Speaker 1: was once ignorant. You know. We was like the first

1747
01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:56,840
Speaker 1: rapper showing guns on mixtapes, right, And so I can't say,

1748
01:18:57,560 --> 01:18:59,320
Speaker 1: you know, I ain't have my part in some of

1749
01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:01,280
Speaker 1: this shit. But you know, the whole thing is how

1750
01:19:01,360 --> 01:19:04,559
Speaker 1: you make it better. I'd rather see a motherfucker get

1751
01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:06,599
Speaker 1: on than be on the block and shoot something because

1752
01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:08,519
Speaker 1: when New York rappers, we just got bad luck. We

1753
01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:13,400
Speaker 1: always get indicted or get killed before we get on.

1754
01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:19,479
Speaker 1: Casting over pop Smoked, the list go on, and on

1755
01:19:20,360 --> 01:19:23,040
Speaker 1: I either get killed or get indicted. I had a time.

1756
01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:26,760
Speaker 1: Did you see blue face new tattoo? Yeah, all of

1757
01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:29,240
Speaker 1: his face. Yeah, he's tatted up. You're getting it tasted?

1758
01:19:29,240 --> 01:19:29,600
Speaker 4: Why you in?

1759
01:19:30,200 --> 01:19:32,960
Speaker 1: Nah? I think that tattoo is a LA thing, more

1760
01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:35,160
Speaker 1: like the La niggas put a tattoo on their forehead.

1761
01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:38,240
Speaker 1: New York niggas really wasn't. That's my first time seeing

1762
01:19:38,280 --> 01:19:40,880
Speaker 1: the tattoo on the head. I always tell a story

1763
01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:42,400
Speaker 1: about Shi night when we were in into the I

1764
01:19:42,439 --> 01:19:44,639
Speaker 1: think it was one eighteen Street, and that's the first

1765
01:19:44,720 --> 01:19:47,519
Speaker 1: time I seen like a with a full blown tattoo

1766
01:19:48,080 --> 01:19:50,240
Speaker 1: on his forehead. New York niggas really don't do that

1767
01:19:50,280 --> 01:19:51,640
Speaker 1: shit on they face like that.

1768
01:19:54,080 --> 01:19:58,439
Speaker 4: When did it was probably before you? But when do

1769
01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:02,479
Speaker 4: we start? When do we start? Or prison culture? When

1770
01:20:02,600 --> 01:20:04,920
Speaker 4: was that? Okay? When was that a badge of honor?

1771
01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:09,800
Speaker 1: Man, it's a sad thing, but I think it was

1772
01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:12,840
Speaker 1: just it's just been from the from the eighties to on.

1773
01:20:13,240 --> 01:20:13,559
Speaker 4: It's like.

1774
01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:18,360
Speaker 1: Graduate school and be like yo him and then come

1775
01:20:18,439 --> 01:20:21,080
Speaker 1: from jail and we just it's just like we know

1776
01:20:21,200 --> 01:20:24,439
Speaker 1: it's trained to have something for him. Yeah, yo send

1777
01:20:24,479 --> 01:20:27,280
Speaker 1: him ten thousand, Yo, Yo, give him me sneakers, yo,

1778
01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:29,719
Speaker 1: get him a chain. So it's like from the beginning

1779
01:20:29,720 --> 01:20:32,360
Speaker 1: of time, like from the eighties, just that was the

1780
01:20:32,439 --> 01:20:35,080
Speaker 1: thing to do every time somebody came home. And I'm

1781
01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:38,120
Speaker 1: not saying anybody can't make mistakes, you know what I'm saying,

1782
01:20:38,160 --> 01:20:41,919
Speaker 1: But I feel like that graduated high school to college,

1783
01:20:42,320 --> 01:20:45,000
Speaker 1: he should get glorified too. Yes, you know, he should

1784
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:47,120
Speaker 1: have a bag waiting for him too when he graduated.

1785
01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:53,040
Speaker 1: Not just that came from jail, you know. But it, dude,

1786
01:20:53,080 --> 01:20:55,920
Speaker 1: come a trend though. You're right, we do glorified jail.

1787
01:20:56,960 --> 01:21:00,960
Speaker 1: We do, and it's and it's a thing because people,

1788
01:21:01,160 --> 01:21:04,080
Speaker 1: you know, when you really really sit back and think

1789
01:21:04,080 --> 01:21:06,280
Speaker 1: about it, because jail, anybody who's in jail really don't

1790
01:21:06,280 --> 01:21:08,120
Speaker 1: even want to be in there. Nah, all of them

1791
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:10,519
Speaker 1: is doing life. Not your life, Man, I don't want

1792
01:21:10,560 --> 01:21:11,000
Speaker 1: to be in here.

1793
01:21:11,360 --> 01:21:13,280
Speaker 3: They would trade with the person that's on the outside,

1794
01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:15,120
Speaker 3: and it seemed like the person on the outside trying

1795
01:21:15,160 --> 01:21:16,000
Speaker 3: to do everything they can.

1796
01:21:15,960 --> 01:21:18,080
Speaker 1: To get on the inside right because usually when you

1797
01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:20,439
Speaker 1: see like the dudes that do long bits and come home,

1798
01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:23,280
Speaker 1: they come home find the lady relaxed. They don't ever

1799
01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:26,000
Speaker 1: want to go to jail again. He's twenty fifteen. But

1800
01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:28,599
Speaker 1: the dudes that do like short bids five five five

1801
01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:31,560
Speaker 1: two too two, they always go back to jail. I

1802
01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:34,840
Speaker 1: don't know why it's like that, but really learn their.

1803
01:21:34,840 --> 01:21:37,040
Speaker 4: Lesson when they do that long they do that long stretch.

1804
01:21:40,439 --> 01:21:43,240
Speaker 1: No niggas like that. They're fifteen. They doing the right thing.

1805
01:21:43,400 --> 01:21:48,080
Speaker 1: They work nonprofits, They did workout, got their lady and

1806
01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:49,400
Speaker 1: just chill. They out the way.

1807
01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:52,760
Speaker 3: I heard Fat Joe said yesterday he felt not what

1808
01:21:52,920 --> 01:21:55,000
Speaker 3: He didn't say it yesterday, but I heard it yesterday

1809
01:21:55,400 --> 01:21:59,960
Speaker 3: that he felt guilty. Enjoins Gunner Music because Gunner was labeled.

1810
01:22:00,600 --> 01:22:03,479
Speaker 1: You know, I mean, I look at it like this,

1811
01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:06,160
Speaker 1: We're gonna man, We're gonna make dope music. He's one

1812
01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:08,960
Speaker 1: of the dopest to me, he's any number one now yeah,

1813
01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:11,120
Speaker 1: he's like number one. Think he did like eighty thousand.

1814
01:22:11,240 --> 01:22:14,840
Speaker 1: I look at it like this, right, people take please right.

1815
01:22:15,320 --> 01:22:17,840
Speaker 1: It just looked funny because it was on camera. We

1816
01:22:17,960 --> 01:22:20,320
Speaker 1: don't know what his lawyer told him. My lawyer done

1817
01:22:20,360 --> 01:22:22,439
Speaker 1: told me to take pleased before you know what I'm saying.

1818
01:22:22,479 --> 01:22:24,439
Speaker 1: So you that's just copping out, like yo, I don't

1819
01:22:24,439 --> 01:22:26,120
Speaker 1: want to go to try and take this plea. Right,

1820
01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:29,160
Speaker 1: So with the plea, he didn't know his lawyer. His

1821
01:22:29,240 --> 01:22:31,120
Speaker 1: lawyer to say, yo, his lawyer probably came to sell you.

1822
01:22:31,160 --> 01:22:34,439
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get you out today. Just take this plea. Okay,

1823
01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:37,120
Speaker 1: bet you know what I'm saying. So when he took

1824
01:22:37,160 --> 01:22:40,720
Speaker 1: the plea, his lawyer saying, the DA is saying, yo,

1825
01:22:40,960 --> 01:22:43,400
Speaker 1: is this was a gang. They already felt in their

1826
01:22:43,479 --> 01:22:45,120
Speaker 1: mind that there was a gang. He said, yeah, he

1827
01:22:45,160 --> 01:22:47,320
Speaker 1: probably didn't know all that was gonna happen. He was like, yeah,

1828
01:22:47,360 --> 01:22:49,160
Speaker 1: I want to get out of here. I gotta make

1829
01:22:49,240 --> 01:22:51,200
Speaker 1: my money, make this. At the end of the day,

1830
01:22:51,240 --> 01:22:55,000
Speaker 1: thugger took a plea too, right, it's a thug u

1831
01:22:55,080 --> 01:22:58,000
Speaker 1: rat today, right. The only one that didn't take a

1832
01:22:58,040 --> 01:23:00,800
Speaker 1: plea was was one of them, right right. Everybody else

1833
01:23:00,840 --> 01:23:03,360
Speaker 1: took a plea. It's just that he did it before

1834
01:23:03,400 --> 01:23:05,720
Speaker 1: a thugger so it'll look funny to the public. And

1835
01:23:05,880 --> 01:23:08,320
Speaker 1: then if that plea wasn't on camera, niggas wouldn't be

1836
01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:08,600
Speaker 1: saying that.

1837
01:23:09,439 --> 01:23:12,519
Speaker 4: Do you think thug ain't gonna ever reconcile. I don't know.

1838
01:23:12,800 --> 01:23:14,800
Speaker 1: It would be dope for hip hop, But right now

1839
01:23:14,840 --> 01:23:16,960
Speaker 1: I think gunn is. You know, he just dropped his

1840
01:23:17,120 --> 01:23:19,439
Speaker 1: last two albums, so he's out the deal and he's

1841
01:23:19,479 --> 01:23:23,519
Speaker 1: doing perfectly fine by himself. It's thugger legend for Atlanta. Yes,

1842
01:23:23,960 --> 01:23:26,280
Speaker 1: so it's Gunna though, right, But you know, I think

1843
01:23:26,320 --> 01:23:28,080
Speaker 1: people is quick to judge, and so the only one

1844
01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:30,280
Speaker 1: that could judge you is gone. So when you look

1845
01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:32,080
Speaker 1: at all the shit, you know I don't with him.

1846
01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:34,600
Speaker 1: I don't with him. His music is still dope. You

1847
01:23:34,680 --> 01:23:37,600
Speaker 1: can't deny dope music. I don't give it. If you

1848
01:23:37,640 --> 01:23:40,839
Speaker 1: feel like a told niggas this way, or a niggas

1849
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:45,200
Speaker 1: not gangster or is a nerd. If you drop dope music,

1850
01:23:45,320 --> 01:23:49,960
Speaker 1: nothing defies that. Dope music's dope music. I'm not here

1851
01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:51,840
Speaker 1: to judge Gunna. I'm here to listen to his music.

1852
01:23:51,920 --> 01:23:54,559
Speaker 1: If he drops some dope music, i'ma listening as well

1853
01:23:54,600 --> 01:23:56,800
Speaker 1: as Little Baby, as well as Future. I listen to

1854
01:23:56,840 --> 01:23:59,559
Speaker 1: all them niggas. You know what I'm saying. But dope

1855
01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:00,599
Speaker 1: music stoke music.

1856
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:03,840
Speaker 4: If you could, if you could give some advice to

1857
01:24:03,880 --> 01:24:05,600
Speaker 4: Little Dirt, what would you tell it?

1858
01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:10,519
Speaker 1: I was just tell him to hold his head. You know,

1859
01:24:10,600 --> 01:24:13,639
Speaker 1: it's tough when you you know, facing federal charges. Hold

1860
01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:16,080
Speaker 1: your head and listen to your lawyer. It's easy to

1861
01:24:16,120 --> 01:24:17,479
Speaker 1: get in trouble and it's hard to get out.

1862
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:17,840
Speaker 2: It is.

1863
01:24:19,720 --> 01:24:22,200
Speaker 1: Wise man once told me that it's easy to get

1864
01:24:22,240 --> 01:24:24,000
Speaker 1: in trouble, it's hard to get out. And as rappers

1865
01:24:24,040 --> 01:24:26,439
Speaker 1: we being watched, let's not act like we ain't being

1866
01:24:26,479 --> 01:24:29,280
Speaker 1: You got millions of dollars, you got enough money to

1867
01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:29,880
Speaker 1: do whatever.

1868
01:24:31,720 --> 01:24:34,240
Speaker 3: And now yeo, they're taking your They taking your lyrics

1869
01:24:34,280 --> 01:24:37,519
Speaker 3: and say, okay, that's real because they tried to use

1870
01:24:38,120 --> 01:24:41,160
Speaker 3: a thugger's lyrics. They tried to use guns lyrics and say,

1871
01:24:41,600 --> 01:24:43,960
Speaker 3: see he tell you what he did. It's something that

1872
01:24:44,040 --> 01:24:45,519
Speaker 3: maybe something they do play.

1873
01:24:45,720 --> 01:24:49,479
Speaker 1: They're using social media as the FEDS and everybody's using

1874
01:24:49,560 --> 01:24:53,760
Speaker 1: social media as the outlet. Like a motherfucker put up

1875
01:24:53,760 --> 01:24:55,439
Speaker 1: a gun and the FEDS will go get the serial

1876
01:24:55,600 --> 01:24:58,920
Speaker 1: number and lock him up. That gun is stolen. They

1877
01:24:58,960 --> 01:25:00,600
Speaker 1: could freeze on the serial and I'm to do it.

1878
01:25:00,640 --> 01:25:03,720
Speaker 1: They're using social media and lyrics now because in their eyes,

1879
01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:07,040
Speaker 1: we're making it too easy. The mother y'all just killed this.

1880
01:25:08,840 --> 01:25:11,080
Speaker 1: They're gonna use that he just said he shot him

1881
01:25:11,080 --> 01:25:12,040
Speaker 1: the way the murder.

1882
01:25:12,040 --> 01:25:14,840
Speaker 4: Was, and that and that was, and that wasn't that

1883
01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:15,920
Speaker 4: wasn't publicized.

1884
01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:18,960
Speaker 1: Joe. He just said, he just said he shot him

1885
01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:20,960
Speaker 1: this amount of times. He just put that in the song.

1886
01:25:21,080 --> 01:25:25,559
Speaker 1: Of course they're gonna use that. The d A gonna

1887
01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:26,559
Speaker 1: play that ship in court.

1888
01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:32,960
Speaker 3: When when when did it become cool to start flossing

1889
01:25:33,000 --> 01:25:36,760
Speaker 3: your tube? Guys used to keep that thing took not

1890
01:25:36,920 --> 01:25:39,040
Speaker 3: everybody want everybody.

1891
01:25:38,720 --> 01:25:40,080
Speaker 1: Wanted g and it, we did it. We used to

1892
01:25:40,080 --> 01:25:41,640
Speaker 1: have him on the covers, we you know.

1893
01:25:42,280 --> 01:25:44,840
Speaker 3: But but I see for a photo for a photo op. Okay,

1894
01:25:44,840 --> 01:25:47,200
Speaker 3: I get that. But these guys on social media waving

1895
01:25:47,240 --> 01:25:48,040
Speaker 3: that thing around, like.

1896
01:25:49,040 --> 01:25:53,920
Speaker 1: I think the traditional suburban kid, yeah, doesn't live that

1897
01:25:54,040 --> 01:25:57,880
Speaker 1: life that wakes up to lobster, you know. Like I

1898
01:25:57,960 --> 01:25:59,720
Speaker 1: had some of my friends in Long Island be like

1899
01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:02,479
Speaker 1: kids are arguing up a lobster, you know. I think

1900
01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:05,040
Speaker 1: the entertainment for them is the side of a life

1901
01:26:05,120 --> 01:26:08,560
Speaker 1: that they would they would live, you know. And I

1902
01:26:08,640 --> 01:26:10,599
Speaker 1: feel the kids to the point is like I don't

1903
01:26:10,640 --> 01:26:14,320
Speaker 1: give it. I got ops. This is my life. I

1904
01:26:14,360 --> 01:26:15,760
Speaker 1: e An made because look him in the artists like

1905
01:26:15,800 --> 01:26:18,000
Speaker 1: Bloodhound Little Jeff, you know about dope artists. He was

1906
01:26:18,040 --> 01:26:20,439
Speaker 1: about to be like the next King Vone he's gone

1907
01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:24,360
Speaker 1: Q fifty another artists that's with him. It just call

1908
01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:27,120
Speaker 1: just got shut up in Saint Louis. Ship is real,

1909
01:26:28,479 --> 01:26:30,880
Speaker 1: Saint Louis is cool, but I'm not going sight seeing

1910
01:26:30,880 --> 01:26:37,040
Speaker 1: around that Martha down. Yeah, ship La is cool, but

1911
01:26:37,120 --> 01:26:39,840
Speaker 1: I'm not going sight seeing around at mouth for La.

1912
01:26:39,960 --> 01:26:41,559
Speaker 1: You can go to town in a way that could

1913
01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:45,760
Speaker 1: be crib or Mexican gag Yo. Shannon in the head.

1914
01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:48,040
Speaker 1: He got some jewelry on. Niggas got to drop on

1915
01:26:48,160 --> 01:26:49,120
Speaker 1: you while you eating.

1916
01:26:49,960 --> 01:26:53,519
Speaker 3: Damn, because that was that was definitely a thing because

1917
01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:56,040
Speaker 3: they were running during COVID. You know people you had

1918
01:26:56,080 --> 01:26:58,519
Speaker 3: to be outside. People run up and taking your ap

1919
01:26:58,720 --> 01:27:01,439
Speaker 3: take me your paddy, follow you, they follow your home,

1920
01:27:02,120 --> 01:27:03,040
Speaker 3: lay you down, niggas.

1921
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Speaker 1: Robb what's the kid, Jack Dorty. They robbed him on

1922
01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:10,479
Speaker 1: Rodale within a security These niggas don't care. That's why

1923
01:27:10,479 --> 01:27:11,200
Speaker 1: I I don't.

1924
01:27:11,040 --> 01:27:13,360
Speaker 4: Care where this ship they get to drop.

1925
01:27:13,640 --> 01:27:17,760
Speaker 1: Look, it ain't safe nowhere, no yeah, you know, if

1926
01:27:17,800 --> 01:27:19,960
Speaker 1: they want to get you, they gonna come. It ain't

1927
01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:21,720
Speaker 1: safe no way. That's why I say the hardest thing

1928
01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:24,680
Speaker 1: about being a celebrity or being you know, in some

1929
01:27:24,880 --> 01:27:27,799
Speaker 1: kind of linelight it's a dangerous job. It's very dangerous

1930
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Speaker 1: to me.

1931
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Speaker 4: Tell them about that. Kanyak firing it.

1932
01:27:32,439 --> 01:27:34,840
Speaker 1: Karnac is fired. Like me a bottle that I got you.

1933
01:27:35,240 --> 01:27:40,640
Speaker 1: We're gonna get your address, memall that. But it's crazy, Shaye, man,

1934
01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:43,680
Speaker 1: damn even you know, because you know back in the

1935
01:27:43,800 --> 01:27:46,960
Speaker 1: you know Rodale, You're like, I don't get right a man.

1936
01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:48,479
Speaker 3: I remember the first time I went to rid Dale

1937
01:27:48,479 --> 01:27:51,000
Speaker 3: and then seeing all these shops things that you I

1938
01:27:51,160 --> 01:27:53,920
Speaker 3: remember the first time I ever saw RIDEO was Lifestyle

1939
01:27:53,960 --> 01:27:55,040
Speaker 3: of the Rich and Famous.

1940
01:27:55,360 --> 01:28:01,040
Speaker 4: Robin rob and I'm so I'm seeing it.

1941
01:28:01,360 --> 01:28:04,719
Speaker 3: And now I'm on Redeal Drive and I'm seeing like man,

1942
01:28:05,800 --> 01:28:10,439
Speaker 3: I did tipping in this and I remember the I

1943
01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:12,479
Speaker 3: forget the guy's name, but he had a yellow hit

1944
01:28:12,720 --> 01:28:14,160
Speaker 3: he had a yellow I think it was a rose

1945
01:28:14,240 --> 01:28:15,559
Speaker 3: Ross at the time. I think it's a Bentley now.

1946
01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:18,960
Speaker 3: But then beyond and it's right out front and me

1947
01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:21,160
Speaker 3: and my brother we walking down. I'm like, man, I'm

1948
01:28:21,200 --> 01:28:24,920
Speaker 3: on Verdale Drive and don't nobody got to carry the world.

1949
01:28:25,760 --> 01:28:28,040
Speaker 4: Women got their purse twirling around the head. Ain't worried

1950
01:28:28,040 --> 01:28:28,639
Speaker 4: about nothing.

1951
01:28:28,720 --> 01:28:31,920
Speaker 1: You ain't worried about nothing. That's when Cali was fun.

1952
01:28:32,479 --> 01:28:35,040
Speaker 4: Now women Overdale Drive got their person like this.

1953
01:28:36,400 --> 01:28:39,280
Speaker 1: Even Atlanta, Atlanta. I remember us going to Lula Chris Day.

1954
01:28:40,800 --> 01:28:42,960
Speaker 1: Craziest thing in the world, I said, I would love

1955
01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:45,479
Speaker 1: to Lanta, I said, man, Atlanta, I wanted to move them.

1956
01:28:45,560 --> 01:28:49,200
Speaker 1: I said, man, this is the pla beautiful women over where, everywhere.

1957
01:28:49,720 --> 01:28:54,360
Speaker 1: The vibe was cool. Not to worry in the world.

1958
01:28:55,080 --> 01:28:57,519
Speaker 1: Now you go to Atlanta, go see my man. He like, yo,

1959
01:28:57,800 --> 01:29:01,120
Speaker 1: load the whole truck up, nigga stopping the gas station.

1960
01:29:01,840 --> 01:29:05,479
Speaker 4: No, no, no, that's the most gas station, the most

1961
01:29:05,560 --> 01:29:06,320
Speaker 4: dangerous place.

1962
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Speaker 1: Atlanta. Yo, Atlanta is I've never seen the place where

1963
01:29:11,240 --> 01:29:13,320
Speaker 1: you hear me say, yeah, man, the kids brought the

1964
01:29:13,400 --> 01:29:15,479
Speaker 1: U haul and they rammed in the gun store. What

1965
01:29:17,439 --> 01:29:20,120
Speaker 1: New York me in the gun state. They rammed in

1966
01:29:20,160 --> 01:29:23,200
Speaker 1: the gun store, took all the guns. Man. Listen, it's

1967
01:29:23,280 --> 01:29:23,839
Speaker 1: too crazy.

1968
01:29:25,040 --> 01:29:26,000
Speaker 4: It's getting crazier.

1969
01:29:26,240 --> 01:29:27,080
Speaker 1: It's getting crazier.

1970
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Speaker 3: This concludes the first half of my conversation. Part two

1971
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Speaker 3: is also posted and you can access it to whichever

1972
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Speaker 3: podcast platform you just listen to part one on. Just

1973
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Speaker 3: simply go back to club profile and I'll see you there.