1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:05,359 Speaker 1: Wind Down with Jana Kramer and I'm Heeartradio podcast. 2 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:09,319 Speaker 2: Hey everyone, Tory Spelling here and I am covering for 3 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 2: my friend Jana Kramer today on her episode of unmask Now. 4 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 2: As a former contestant, I was the Unicorn on season one. 5 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 2: I am super excited because it is like family to 6 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 2: me all these seasons to recap last night's show. So 7 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 2: let's jump into the recap. It is semi final week 8 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 2: and everyone cannot wait to see who is making it 9 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 2: to the finale, especially me and my entire family. Okay, 10 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 2: we are here at season thirteen, episode twelve, and the 11 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 2: show opens with our four semi finalists Boogie Woogie, Pearl, 12 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 2: Mad Scientist, Monster, and Coral and they are doing a 13 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 2: group number two the song Handclap by Fits and Tantrums 14 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 2: and it was super fun energetic. It was a great 15 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 2: song choice I thought to open the show with. Brought 16 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 2: a lot of energy immediately taking you into the episode 17 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 2: with a and clap. Okay, So then Nick announces that 18 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 2: the mashups for the night are going to be Boogie 19 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 2: Woogie versus Pearl and Mad Scientists versus Coral. First up 20 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 2: head to head is Boogie Woogie versus Pearl, and so 21 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 2: the clues for Boogie Woogie he performs first was I 22 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 2: am tapping into emotions that have been asleep for way 23 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 2: too long. I am usually a happy, go lucky guy, 24 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 2: but the farther I get here, the more serious I 25 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 2: am becoming. I am tapping into emotions that have been 26 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:44,119 Speaker 2: asleep for way too long. What are they? What's going 27 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 2: on tonight? I am coming with an up tempo song 28 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 2: to bring the power of boogie Woogie. Okay, And the 29 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 2: song was Maps by Maroon five. So Boogie Woogie performs 30 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 2: with his dancers that are all in black suits, covered 31 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 2: faces with big black fjoras, and they're all carrying different 32 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 2: traffic signs like you know, go one way or yield. 33 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 2: And the dancers came out of the tunnel with light up, 34 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 2: yellow rimmed spinning umbrellas, and there was this really cool 35 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 2: aerial view of them twirling with him right in the middle. 36 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 2: And he ended it on this amazing voice run. So 37 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 2: the judges, you know, all had their comments, they had 38 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 2: their chat. So Rita goes first and Rita says, I 39 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 2: am so speechless, and then she made up an awesome word. 40 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 2: You have bed doozled us but Doozled love it. She says, 41 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 2: one of the best openings we have seen. I concur 42 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 2: each contestant tonight reveals a connection to the judges, which 43 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 2: is kind of a cool thing. And how is he 44 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 2: connected to the panel? So Boogie says, Ken, you are 45 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 2: a fan of mine, you are one of my millions 46 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 2: of followers, and maybe at the end of this I 47 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 2: will follow you back. I mean, if I were Ken Jong, 48 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 2: I'd be like, Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna score this 49 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 2: win and I would go through like all of his 50 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 2: million of followers and that he follows and go through it. 51 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 2: If he's a good detective, he'll do that. Ken, if 52 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:22,399 Speaker 2: you're watching this, you should do that, okay. Ken then 53 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:26,079 Speaker 2: says someone who I follow when he thinks it is 54 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 2: a Ed Sharon, uh oh, you are perfect, happy, go 55 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 2: lucky married man. You look perfect tonight. So he's like 56 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 2: banking that it's Ed, Sharon. He really still should check 57 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 2: all of his follows. Rita says, I have worked with Ed, 58 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 2: and this is not Ed. Sharon. I agree, Rita and 59 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 2: I and she says, I think it could be Kevin Jonas. 60 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,839 Speaker 2: I don't think that's a bad one. Could be right 61 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 2: because of the chasing happiness stock and he has kiddos. 62 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 2: Fair fact. Then Jenny says Statue of Liberty was a 63 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 2: clue in the past and married with children. I think 64 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 2: this could be American Idol contestant Justin Guerini. I don't 65 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 2: know if I agree with that. Hm, who do you 66 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 2: guys think it is? Okay, So Clues for Pearl Pearl 67 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 2: now is going to go up against Boogie and Clues 68 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 2: for Pearl are. I am no stranger to fighting for survival. 69 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 2: I can do all genres here and I have kept 70 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 2: the panel spinning in circles, not afraid to blaze a trail. 71 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,239 Speaker 2: Blaze a trail, that's a clue. That's a clue. Okay. 72 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 2: Not too many women were doing what she was doing 73 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 2: when she came onto the scene. Uh huh. I started 74 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 2: my own movement and open doors for so many others. 75 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 2: Tonight is about showing Boogie Woogie the door, and it 76 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 2: won't be easy, but I can stand up for myself. 77 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,919 Speaker 2: Her song is You Don't Own Me by Leslie Gore 78 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 2: just now. Her previous guesses have been Ethridge, Pat Benatar, 79 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 2: and Madonna. OMG, imagine if Madonna was on the mass singer, 80 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 2: but I digress that would be amazing. Okay. So her performance, 81 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 2: the dancers come out in pink, puffy costumes with pink 82 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:22,239 Speaker 2: masks and puffballs on their hands, sparkly set. So there's pink, 83 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 2: then there's purple. Was noted strained the voice a little 84 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 2: bit on the end of her run, but she's amazing. 85 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. And these outfits and costumes and masks 86 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 2: are not easy to sing in. Okay. The judges, they said, 87 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 2: Jenny said it was the best of the best. Dane 88 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 2: McCarthy's so kind. Robin says it was sultry and shaggy vocals. 89 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 2: You freestyled the end and added the soul and grit. Amazing, 90 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 2: And Jenny says, just when I thought Boogie Woogie had it, 91 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 2: here you come. So the contestants continue to reveal their 92 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 2: connection to the judges, if any, and the one on 93 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 2: the panel that is connected to Pearl is Jenny, and 94 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 2: Pearl says, not only did we walk the same carpet, 95 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 2: but you also watch me win my award at the AMS. 96 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 2: So there's the Elvis clue. I think it could be 97 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 2: Casey Musgraves, they say, Ken said it could be Martina McBride. 98 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 2: H I wonder if she follows him. Robin Thick says 99 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:30,239 Speaker 2: it can be Ann Wilson from Hearts I Love Heart 100 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 2: due to a previous clue he says of singing with 101 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 2: Dolly Parton. Okay, fair Rita says this could be Natalie 102 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 2: Mains from The Chicks I Love her so much, with 103 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 2: the ex and O board clue to maybe means she 104 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 2: has performed at the Super Bowl. Oh my god, I 105 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 2: hope it's her. And then we go into the audience 106 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 2: voting and Pearl wins. So we go to the second 107 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 2: head to head next and it's Coral versus Mad Scientist Monster. 108 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 2: The clues for Coral, who goes up first is I 109 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 2: am the youngest left in the competition, one of the 110 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 2: youngest ever to get this far. Only thing left to 111 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 2: do is wipe the floor with the crazy old scientist. 112 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 2: Still finding my sea legs in Hollywood has pop Star 113 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 2: Dreams wants to dig deep with an emotional song. The 114 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 2: song was what Was I Made For by Billie Eilish 115 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 2: and the performance, Oh my god, it was so good. 116 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 2: Standing on a round, raised stage in the middle with 117 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 2: butterflies made in lights flapping around her light beams. I 118 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 2: love this whole staging and performance. It was glorious and 119 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 2: so visually pleasing. There's a fiddle player on the stage, 120 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 2: some light choreography, even confetti falls when she sings how 121 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 2: to Be Happy. And the judges were all emotional. They 122 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 2: all had tears, they had chills, they were just outs 123 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 2: like outstand it like mouth the gape, like everyone was 124 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 2: in shock, not shocked, just like she truly brought the 125 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 2: house down. So Coral is connected to Rita and she says, 126 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 2: your franchise and my franchise are going to make sweet 127 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 2: beautiful music next year. Wow. That's like, oh my god. Okay. 128 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 2: Rita says, I'm in a franchise called Descendants and they 129 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 2: are going on tour with zombies. But there's so many 130 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 2: people she wasn't sure who it might be Macdonnelly, Kylie Russell, 131 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 2: maybe Sophia Carson. There's so many so she's not sure. 132 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 2: Ken says, I'm so young too. I think I worked 133 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 2: with them. Oh. Ken always a jokester and a poster. 134 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 2: This could be Peyton List. Jenny says, maybe this could 135 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 2: be Hailey' st Einfeld. She's on a Hawkeye on Disney. 136 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 2: These are all great guesses. I'm here for it. So 137 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 2: next up is the Mad Scientist Monster and the Clues 138 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 2: for Mad Scientists Monster. Hey, I am not that old. 139 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 2: With age comes experience, and I have been training for 140 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 2: this my whole life as an athlete turned singer. I 141 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 2: apply a sports mentality to all of my performances. I 142 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 2: am not just cruising here, I am working. The song 143 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 2: was a bar song, Tipsy by Shabouzi, So this performance 144 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 2: was cool. There's a bunch of cowboys dancing around a 145 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 2: camper like set. He does align dancing with the cowboys 146 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 2: as best as the costume will allow. It's really hard 147 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 2: to dance in these costumes, but I thought it was 148 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 2: a great attempt and then big streamers. At the end 149 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 2: of the performance, Ken said, great song choice, But the 150 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 2: connection is actually with Robin, and he says he has 151 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 2: a Robin connection. Remember that Lucky Duck clue about someone 152 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 2: stealing something from you That was me in twenty thirteen. 153 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 2: Robin's like, oh wait, the lines are blurred that year. 154 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 2: He says, I think this is trace Atkins. Rita says, 155 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 2: what about the charts? Did he steal a spot on 156 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 2: the charts? Can ask what about the costume clue there 157 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 2: is an orange pen in the pocket, so maybe Florida. 158 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 2: Jenny says there's two bees on the name tech, so 159 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 2: Ken says that he thinks it's Billy Ray Cyrus. Rita says, no, 160 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 2: I mean the athlete thing could be maybe a football 161 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 2: in college. I thought maybe body like a back road, 162 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 2: maybe Sam Hunt big hit in twenty thirteen. Then we 163 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 2: go right into the audience voting and bomb mad Scientist 164 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 2: Monster wins. Okay, SmackDown. Then yes, let's get to it. 165 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 2: It was Coral versus Boogie Woogie. Corla is first singing 166 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 2: Suddenly I See by Katie Tunstall walks around and engages 167 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 2: with the audience, which they always love, and Boogie Go 168 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 2: second sings are You going to Be My Girl? By 169 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 2: jet I got to say I dropping to his knees, 170 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 2: good move, good move, solid, and he really performs it. 171 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:27,559 Speaker 2: It was really good and his run at the end amazing. 172 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 2: So the judges say, Ken says, she nailed it, and 173 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 2: Boogie sang one of my favorite songs of all time. 174 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 2: The audience does the biggest vote yet and then it 175 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 2: all stops. Bell starts ringing wait for it. In the 176 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 2: studio and then Lucky Duck comes out and reveals nobody's 177 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 2: getting unmasked tonight and sent home, which I was really 178 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 2: excited about. Uh, so everyone is going to the finale. 179 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 2: The Duck has been breaking this news all season long, 180 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 2: and neither of you are getting unmasked, So go backstage 181 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 2: and you both have a finale to prepare for. So 182 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:08,559 Speaker 2: that was a huge shock that no one was going 183 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:11,559 Speaker 2: home and getting unmasked, which I'm loving that they're all 184 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 2: moving to the finale. Nick Cannon throws to the judges 185 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 2: to see who they think the Duck is. The panel 186 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 2: are like, the Duck stops them and then says they 187 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 2: will get it wrong, so he's going to take his 188 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 2: mask off before they can say it. Robin says, I 189 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 2: think it's Nicholas Cage and then Lucky Duck takes his 190 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:39,319 Speaker 2: mask off and it's Taika and it is Rita's husband. 191 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:45,079 Speaker 2: Plot twist. Oh so good. I love it. Okay, So 192 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 2: that was the semi finals and I am so excited. 193 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 2: I can't wait to see what happens next week in 194 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 2: the finale. But now I'm even more excited because we 195 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 2: have on Edwin McCain, who was un asked last week 196 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 2: as a Nessie the luckness Monster. Let's welcome Edwin McCain. 197 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 2: Welcome to the show, Edwin McCain. 198 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 3: Hello, thank you so much for having me. 199 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, thank you. I'm so excited. I'm so 200 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 2: lucky to be filling in for my friend Janet Kreamer today. 201 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:33,839 Speaker 2: And I get you so in my singer you were 202 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:37,199 Speaker 2: NeSSI and you have You've said that you told your daughter, 203 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:38,319 Speaker 2: but not your sons. 204 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 3: I did. 205 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 2: I had to tell terrified. Ever, so you had to 206 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 2: tell her. 207 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 3: No, I had to. 208 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: Tell her because I was probably I was going to 209 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: use her the because we we actually, for whatever reason, 210 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: are our silly tiktoks have gone crazy a couple of 211 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: times where her embarrassment of. 212 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 3: Me apparently is what the internet really as. 213 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 1: And and so I told her about it because I 214 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 1: just had to prepare her for the eventuality of seeing 215 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:14,319 Speaker 1: me in a like mess monster suit on national television. 216 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 3: You know, I didn't want to just spring that on her. 217 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: And then my sons are terrible secret keepers, so I 218 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: had to I had to keep that from them. 219 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 2: What was their reaction when you were in mass I don't. 220 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 3: Know that they even pulled themselves away from the video 221 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 3: game long enough to care. 222 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: But my middle son actually was kind of funny. He 223 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: he sent me some there was some ranking meme on 224 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: Reddit because he knows all the you know, the Reddit 225 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: sub stack. 226 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 3: World that I don't know, like where all the kids. 227 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: Congregate and say the things that the parents can't find 228 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: out about. 229 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 2: Oh is that the place? Okay, thank you? 230 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 3: I think so. I think it's Reddit and Stack. I 231 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 3: don't know. I don't I don't participate it. 232 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 1: I mean, if it wasn't for the pandemic, I wouldn't 233 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: have ever gotten on TikTok and I and that's really 234 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: the only social media platform that I engage. 235 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 3: And I just I love TikTok. I don't know why, 236 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 3: I just I really do. 237 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 2: So wait, what did they say on Reddit? 238 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 3: I was, I was. 239 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: No, okay, there's like a top tier and then NeSSI 240 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: was on the next level, and then there. 241 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 3: Was like four or five under that. 242 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: So your mid I was, I was, I was upper 243 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: mid is what? And the thing is, though I don't 244 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: really know it. You know, I never trusted because he 245 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: could have it could have been like most hated. And 246 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: he didn't really tell me. He just said, look, you're 247 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: up near the top. 248 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,359 Speaker 2: Oh see. My kids would be honest, they would screenshot 249 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 2: it and send it to me, like what they're saying 250 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 2: about you did you? Did you pick se? 251 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: No? 252 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 3: I was? I was? I know, no, no, no, I 253 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 3: listen honestly, I could. I barely had time. 254 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: It was really bizarre because the way my schedule was, 255 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: it was going to be close whether I could even 256 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: do this show. And I had to move some things around, 257 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: and so I literally I didn't even you know, most 258 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: people got out there and did fittings and did all 259 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: this stuff. 260 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 3: I literally I had to. 261 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: Go to a to a men's store in Greenville where 262 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: I live and get them to measure me. 263 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 3: With all these really specific measurements. 264 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: And without telling them why, and and and the guy, 265 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: the tailor at this shop was like, what come on, bro, 266 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: Like what's this about? And and I was like I 267 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: had to make up some story, Like I told him I. 268 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 2: Was goingplayer or something. 269 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 3: I was going to some charity ball and they were 270 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 3: building it. Yeah it was yeah, I was I was 271 00:16:56,760 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 3: going to some furry convention, right and yeah, and so yeah, 272 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 3: but I walked into the whole messy thing. But I 273 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 3: have to say this and. 274 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: All props, no pun intended to the costumers and the designers. 275 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 3: They did such a great job, and they were so 276 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 3: creative and so thorough and everybody I worked with. 277 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:22,719 Speaker 1: I just can't stay enough nice things about them, because 278 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: they have a really hard job. First of all, they 279 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 1: got to come up with concepts and do all this stuff, 280 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: and then they got to make these costumes that big 281 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: dumb rednecks like me could jump around in. 282 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 3: And it was great. I mean, it worked out perfectly. 283 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 2: It's a brilliant costume. And I was on season one 284 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 2: a massinger. I was the Unicorn, so I know how 285 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 2: it's progressed a long way. But I mean, your costume 286 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 2: was not an easy one. 287 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 3: No, it was a thousands. 288 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 2: Could you see you can't see? 289 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 1: No, there was a screen right in front of my 290 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:00,199 Speaker 1: face and it didn't read on camera so I can 291 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: see out of it. 292 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:05,159 Speaker 2: It was just it was screens like this. It's like, 293 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 2: it's not well. 294 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:10,400 Speaker 1: I had I had some patting where I could lean 295 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 1: my face up to it and then put the microphone 296 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 1: close enough to where I could sing into the mic. 297 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 3: And you know, in retrospect, I probably should have warned a. 298 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 1: Headset because then I could have flailed my little lizard 299 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: arms more for effect. 300 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:28,640 Speaker 3: But it was you know, live and learn. I don't 301 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 3: know that I'll ever get another chance to do something 302 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 3: like that, so I wasn't about to miss it. 303 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 2: You know they have mass singers all over the world. 304 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 1: Oh well, then sign me up, because I'll do that 305 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: again in a second. 306 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 2: Right, it's such a special I mean, first of all, 307 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 2: like I remember doing it, and I in hindsight was like, 308 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 2: oh my gosh, some people had these costumes where they 309 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 2: could just move and dance and do everything, because I mean, 310 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 2: you're a legendary singer. But I I wish I could 311 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 2: have moved more so I could distract from my singing. 312 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 2: But but yeah, like props to how hot was it? 313 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:06,199 Speaker 1: It was a thousand degrees in there, and I was 314 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: wearing a vest with with ice packs in it. 315 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 3: And before I forget this, you know you and I 316 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 3: actually have an indirect history. 317 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:20,919 Speaker 1: I was, I feel like I owe your whole family 318 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:24,120 Speaker 1: and apology because I feel like I might have cursed 319 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 1: Malibu Shores. My band appeared on Malibu Shores, and I 320 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 1: think it was canceled about half an hour later. 321 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 2: Edwin McCain, I hate to burst your bubble. It wasn't you. 322 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:45,919 Speaker 2: But if it feels better to take credit for that, 323 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 2: you do you boo. 324 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 3: I just had to bring that up. It's such a 325 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 3: long time ago. It was so bizarre. 326 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,679 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, that's so funny. How did I not 327 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 2: remember that? I remember everything in my dad shows? 328 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 3: You would? I mean, it was so it was such 329 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 3: a random thing, and and. 330 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 1: We we were on a string there where Atlantic kept 331 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: putting us in these shows that would like very quickly 332 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,120 Speaker 1: be off the air right after our appearance. 333 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:17,439 Speaker 3: And I was like, man, we're going to get a 334 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:19,199 Speaker 3: bad rep for this. We got. 335 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 2: Well, I wish you had been on nine O two one. Oh, 336 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 2: it was similar timing. I don't know that if we 337 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 2: did I mean the Peach pet No, I wish you were. 338 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,719 Speaker 3: We did the peach Pit. We did play the peach Pit. 339 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 3: We did it. We were there, Yes, we were on there. 340 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 3: I remember that. That was what led to Malibu Shores. 341 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, we did all of them. Yeah, we did all 342 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 1: of it. I mean we were on for a minute there. 343 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: We were on everything. Donnie and Marie and Reads and 344 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:02,120 Speaker 1: Kathy lay all that stuff. 345 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 2: Well, I owe you an apology. I'm so sorry. We're 346 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 2: doing a rewatch podcast on iHeart as well. And we 347 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 2: are on season seven, so you haven't been on yet, 348 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 2: so you must. 349 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 3: Be you're either you got a long way to go. 350 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 2: Okay, can we talk about the beat of sweat that 351 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 2: dripped down your head? 352 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:23,640 Speaker 3: It was crazy. 353 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 2: It went to your foot, did it? Did it go 354 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 2: through your butt crack on the way down? 355 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: Yeah? 356 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 3: I fell to start going and I was like, Wow, 357 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 3: it's gonna make it. It's gonna make it. Way where 358 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 3: am I in the song? I mean, it's bad enough 359 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 3: to be as a d d as I am, but 360 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 3: then but then. 361 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 1: Also to be in a dinosaur suit singing in a 362 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: com I mean a competition. 363 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 3: You know it was. I'll tell you this though, it's kind. 364 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 1: Of the perfect storm for somebody like me because it 365 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: was always different. 366 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 3: It was it was a new adventure every day. I mean, 367 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 3: if that's the that's the way I like it. So, man, 368 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 3: what a. 369 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 4: Wait? 370 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 2: But so I watched. You didn't mess up? 371 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 3: No, No I didn't. 372 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 2: Oh you just got distracted, so you knew, but no 373 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 2: one knew. 374 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 3: No. 375 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: I'd like so in my gigs, like I've been playing 376 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,400 Speaker 1: for thirty five years, and I will I'll zone out 377 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 1: sometimes and be playing the show, but my mind will 378 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: be somewhere else, and then I'll come back to him. 379 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 1: Go wait a second, where am I? And I'm looking around. 380 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,360 Speaker 1: I'm like, I must not have made a mistake, all right, 381 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:32,439 Speaker 1: I guess we're doing okay? 382 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 3: And uh, yeah, it's you know, it's it's a curse really. 383 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 2: Or a blessing. Wow, that is fascinating. I would never 384 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:43,959 Speaker 2: know that. 385 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: I'll be I can be a million miles away in 386 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: a day dream in the middle of a gig, and 387 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:52,439 Speaker 1: it's just you're just just autopilot. 388 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,919 Speaker 2: Do you ever get nervous after all these years. 389 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I get nervous. 390 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 1: I get nervous for about forty five seconds right before 391 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 1: I go on. And I've always said, if you don't 392 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 1: get a little bit nervous right before you go on, 393 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,199 Speaker 1: no matter what it is, it means you've stopped caring 394 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:12,400 Speaker 1: about it. 395 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 3: And I love it. I love playing. I'm just I'm 396 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 3: so blessed to be able to do this. And I 397 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 3: still get a little. 398 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: Nervous before every show, especially, I'll tell you this, especially 399 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: the ones like if I get invited to sing at 400 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 1: a wedding or a funeral or some kind of really. 401 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 3: Especially these one off situations where you've just got to 402 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 3: get it right. I mean there's a lot of things. 403 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, those are the ones for sure, and 404 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:49,159 Speaker 2: mass singer like, that's a whole different experience. So like 405 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 2: right before you went out, yeah, I think the first 406 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:53,439 Speaker 2: different nerves. 407 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 3: The first song we did was rock Saying, and I 408 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,400 Speaker 3: got real nervous walking out there for the first time. 409 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: So I was like, holy make And to be fair, 410 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: it's the first time I've really been re engaged with 411 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: the larger industry, like back in the mix with the 412 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 1: with the real entertainment industry, because I've been independent, been 413 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 1: back to being independent for almost it's close to twenty 414 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: years now, and so everything I've been doing this whole 415 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 1: time has just been really just up to me and 416 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: laid back. 417 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 3: And then all of a sudden, I was sort of 418 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:32,199 Speaker 3: back in this real serious situation where you know, this 419 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 3: is a national television and so for half a second 420 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 3: I kind of went and then you always just fall 421 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 3: back on, you know, have fun. What are we doing? 422 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: I mean, nobody's waiting on me to I mean, I'm 423 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 1: not a heart surgeon, so really it's fine. 424 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 2: Are you competitive? 425 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 3: I am a little bit, there's a little fighter in me. 426 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 3: I mean, I'll say I didn't want to get eliminated. 427 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 3: I'll tell you that I wanted to go all the way. 428 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 3: But after hearing Boogie Woogie, whoever that is, whoever's in 429 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 3: that mask is. 430 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 2: Do you have a prediction who's in that mask? 431 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: If Boogie Woogie doesn't win, I'll be shocked, because whoever's 432 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 1: in that mask can sing. 433 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 2: Whoever you have, you must have a feeling, not a 434 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 2: single clue. 435 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 5: But you also got to remember too, because I'm probably 436 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 5: the oldest person on this seaton in this season, right, 437 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 5: gotta be right, Like I'm from a different I'm. 438 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: Gen X, So I whoever this is, whoever Boogie Woogie is, 439 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 1: probably is twenty or in his twenties. 440 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 3: So I don't know. 441 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm kind of I'm kind of that old 442 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 1: krusty dude that listens to the same fifteen records. 443 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 3: All the time. I don't know who anybody is. I 444 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:55,199 Speaker 3: had to. 445 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 2: Learn, like your fifteen year old tells you, Yeah. 446 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 1: She actually turns me on the music, and then again 447 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 1: she likes she's She took me to see the Arctic 448 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,640 Speaker 1: monkeys and they're not new, but they were really good. 449 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, they were new to me. I was like, huh. 450 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 1: I was really proud of her the other day because 451 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: I caught her listening to, you know, music that even 452 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 1: her friends aren't really listening to. 453 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 3: So she's got good taste in music. 454 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 2: And to all her friends are they like, oh my god, 455 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 2: your dad. Like we're in different spaces. But I know, 456 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,120 Speaker 2: my kids like, I'm not cool until one of their 457 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 2: friends is like, oh my god, your mom is in this, 458 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, they like, are cool. Yeah. 459 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: Her friends call me Edwin and they think I'm hilarious 460 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:44,400 Speaker 1: because I'm not the typical I'm not the typical. 461 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 3: Dad, the dad dad. 462 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: I'm kind of the like for my sons. My sons 463 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 1: have already graduated high school. My sons all their friends 464 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: have my phone number just because my standing order was, 465 00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: you know, if you guys get in any kind of trouble, 466 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 1: just call me and I'll come and help sort it 467 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 1: out before you yeah, before you call your parents. 468 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 3: Let's just let me. Let me get there and see 469 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:10,400 Speaker 3: what I can do to sort things out. Because I'm 470 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:11,640 Speaker 3: also the sober guy too. 471 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: So I've been sober for sixteen years and and so 472 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,160 Speaker 1: I'm sort of that's that's sort of my living amends 473 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 1: to try to make sure that teenagers don't try drunk, 474 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 1: and you know, just all the things. 475 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 2: Absolutely so Robin Thick, Robin Thick knew it was you. 476 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 2: I like you first. 477 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,120 Speaker 3: I was like, nobody's ever going to guess me because 478 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 3: I've been out of the mix for so long. 479 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:36,400 Speaker 2: I know the mix. You're legendary. 480 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, Robin would have known the song, and the song 481 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 3: is the song is so much bigger than my. 482 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 1: Uh pr you know, everybody knows the song, and I 483 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: still have people come and go, I didn't know that 484 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: was you that sings that song, and that's probably my fault, 485 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: but it's worked in my favor for a long time. 486 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,080 Speaker 1: I think there's. 487 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 3: Still a discovery process happening. You know, people are. 488 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 2: Every generation is discovering it on a different like yeah, 489 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,679 Speaker 2: and the kids will be like, I'll say sometimes like, 490 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 2: how do you know that song that's from my generation? 491 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 2: Like we listened to that in the nineties, and they'll 492 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 2: be like, oh, it's on TikTok Now it's a meme 493 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 2: or whatever. They say, it's a clip YouTube, and it's 494 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,400 Speaker 2: like it's wild. I mean, it's kind of cool. That's 495 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 2: how they're learning about things that were cool to us. 496 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 2: Not that you've ever gone out of style. I'm just 497 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 2: saying I don't think I ever was in style. 498 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 3: So that was the thing that like, we just weren't. 499 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 3: We were never the cool band, right, so we like 500 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 3: and everybody in my band won't mind me saying. 501 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 2: My favorite love song all the time. What do you 502 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 2: mean you're not? 503 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 4: It's like there were you know what I'm saying, Like 504 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 4: the cool bands, like the Smashing Pumpkins and you know, 505 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 4: nine It's Nails and like all those bands in the 506 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 4: nineties that were they were cool. 507 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: Right, like Soundgarden and Pearl Jam and they like, those 508 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: guys were cool. 509 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 3: And we were sort of this we we we had 510 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 3: that that. 511 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: Moment with a with a song that was sort of 512 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 1: bigger than we were, and I wasn't getting in the. 513 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 3: Way of that, and and it was it was just 514 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 3: like I don't know how to do. I don't know 515 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 3: how to describe it. 516 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 1: We just never really had that rep for being because 517 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 1: we didn't really fit in indie world and we didn't 518 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: really fit in pop world, and and so and before that, 519 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 1: before that, we were playing with the Alman brothers and like. 520 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 3: Bob Weird, and we were kind of part of a 521 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 3: jam band culture. 522 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 1: And and as soon as you have a radio hit, 523 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 1: you get ejected from that world because you're not allowed 524 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: to be in that world anymore, just ask John Popper and. 525 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 3: And so we weren't in our little jam band world anymore. 526 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 3: Where do we fit? And I'll remember I remember we 527 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 3: were playing these big pop radio festivals where everybody goes 528 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 3: on and plays three songs, and everybody that was there 529 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 3: was play into tracks, which is what you would what 530 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 3: you should do if if you're playing with that many 531 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 3: bands and that many and we were like horrified at 532 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 3: the idea of that. 533 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 1: And I mean Sinaia Twayne was on this villa, Mariah 534 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: Carey instinct, like all the biggest names. And then you know, 535 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 1: in the middle of this thing, we would we refuse 536 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 1: to play the tracks. And so where we had we 537 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: pushed all our gear out on stage, like Hammond Organs 538 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 1: and amps and all this. 539 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 3: I mean the sound company was literally like what the hell, bro. 540 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 1: And look at I look back on that and laugh 541 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 1: because that perfectly encapsulates how clueless we were about that 542 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 1: side of the industry. 543 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 3: Like once you get into the pop side. It doesn't matter, 544 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 3: like that stuff doesn't matter, Like you just need to 545 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 3: go out there and be you know, wear the clothes, 546 00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 3: sing your song and move out of the way. 547 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 1: But because you know Mariah is going to be on 548 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: and you know what I mean, that's that was the point. 549 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 1: We had so many interesting moments. 550 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 2: It's an ego check, like it's humbling and you just 551 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 2: got to roll with it. 552 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, and yeah, it doesn't matter. Nobody cares 553 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 3: that you have integrity of playing live. I mean, nobody 554 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 3: cares about it, you know. But we were like, well 555 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 3: it matters to us, so. 556 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 2: Well, I gotta tell you I'll be still one of 557 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 2: my favorite songs. And I'll tell you one thing. Back then, 558 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 2: I wasn't bawling my eyes out into a pint of 559 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 2: Rocky Road over the Smashing Pumpkins. It was you, Okay, 560 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,959 Speaker 2: Like you got me through so much heartbreak and love. 561 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 2: And every time I hear that song it still makes 562 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 2: me feel so happy, and I know the whole world 563 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 2: feels that way. And wait, you're about to go on 564 00:31:58,280 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 2: the US tour with Train. 565 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 3: That we're going out with Train this summer. 566 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 1: I've known Pat a long time, actually, I'll tell somebody 567 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 1: the story. The other day, I had an opportunity to 568 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 1: go to the Playboy Mansion or go sit in with Train, 569 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 1: and I chose to go sit in with Train. And 570 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 1: I've always told Pat that, I was like, I picked 571 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 1: you over the Playboy Mansion. 572 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 2: Wow, you missed out on the grotto. 573 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 3: Well, I don't you know. 574 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 1: I honestly, curiosity would have been the only reason. I 575 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 1: mean honestly just from a like just I think I 576 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 1: find that that place is. I think it would be 577 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,239 Speaker 1: like a historic like going to Thomas Jefferson's house, Like 578 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 1: it was such a weird moment in time, right, it's like. 579 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 2: Going to the White House or going to the Playboy Mansion. 580 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 2: You're like, yes, I want to try one, like. 581 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 1: This is the this was, this was when, this was 582 00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 1: when the seventies were was off the right here, right 583 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 1: at the epicenter, right bizarre. 584 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Well, I adore you, and I adore train. 585 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 2: I would love to come. 586 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 3: Well, you're welcome to you. 587 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 2: You're not asking for free tickets or anything. 588 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 3: Come on, we'll play. I'll put you on the list. 589 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 3: I'll put you on trains list. 590 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Oh my goodness. And so Wednesday coming up, 591 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 2: you're going to be at the Troubadour. What is that party? 592 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 1: Well, we're doing like a we just want to do 593 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 1: a watch party for it'll be the final episode of 594 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 1: The Mass Singer. And then all all of our friends 595 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 1: are coming out, like Kevin Crownin from Mario and I 596 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 1: think Brett Michaels is going to come out, and we've 597 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 1: got you know, Don Felder, and we're going to play 598 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 1: a bunch of tunes with them and then play a 599 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 1: bunch of our songs. We're going to watch the last 600 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 1: the last episode of The Mass Singer and then get 601 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 1: up and have a big jam and give all the 602 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 1: money to the La Fire Charities. 603 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 2: Amazing, Oh my gosh, amazing. Can I be greedy and 604 00:33:58,800 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 2: come to that too? 605 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 3: I would love to have you there, please please. 606 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 2: So how can people get tickets to that? 607 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 3: Just call the Throubidour or just go to edwin dot com. 608 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:12,840 Speaker 2: Perfect. Thank you, my friend. This has been a pleasure. 609 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 3: It's really nice to reconnect. 610 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 2: Yes, oh my goodness. Now now I have to go 611 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:19,879 Speaker 2: back and watch an Aisle torow and see. 612 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:24,439 Speaker 1: Gosh, it's it's gotta be one of the last seasons 613 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 1: it's gotta be. 614 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:30,360 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm not ninety seven ninety eight somewhere around and there. 615 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,280 Speaker 2: Ninety seven ninety eight, so like two years before it ends, 616 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 2: so like eighth season. Okay, I'm on it and I 617 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,279 Speaker 2: hope to see you soon. And you were wonderful on 618 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 2: the Mass singer. Oh my god. They literally have them 619 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 2: all over the world, Australia, Spain, Paris, like we suld Yeah, 620 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 2: we all make it all of course, they all want you. 621 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, we should, we should, we should make a laugh 622 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,760 Speaker 3: of all them. Yeah, I'm in all right. 623 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,359 Speaker 2: Well, thank you, have a great day. 624 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:01,359 Speaker 3: I'll see you soon. 625 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 2: Thanks. 626 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 3: Hm.